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Rogers: Secondary Will Be Okay Without Springs

Shawn Springs is gone from the Redskins secondary, but Carlos Rogers likes what he has seen from the unit during organized team activities this summer.

With the departure of Springs, who was released in February after five seasons with the Redskins and then joined the New England Patriots, the Redskins appeared relatively thin at cornerback. But Rogers said he did not anticipate any dropoff, with returning players such as Fred Smoot and DeAngelo Hall.

"I think we're still as good and as deep," Rogers said. "Shawn battled a lot of injuries last year. We still played good and it was a good group of guys. Missing him, we still got D-Hall here, me, Smoot. We've still got a lot of guys coming up. We've got a strong, good and close, unique group."

This summer, Rogers said, the younger defensive unit has come together. And the more experienced offense, playing in Coach Jim Zorn's system for a second year, has provided a stiffer challenge during practice.

"I think just working together, coming together as a group, we see a lot of stuff from the offense we haven't seen before," Rogers said. "You may get some of the same routes or the same combinations from another team. You're just working and learning a lot."

Rogers, who will become an unrestricted free agent after this season, also addressed his unresolved contract situation. Although he has been in contact with his agent, he said, he was not worried about whether he was going to get an extension. Rogers is entering his fifth year with the Redskins, who drafted him in the first round in 2005.

"Right now, I don't want to say I focus on it," he said, adding: "By the time the season starts, training camps starts, it's about football. Of course it's going to enter your mind, stuff you do on the field, interceptions and stuff that's going to be good to help you as far as negations. I just want to play out my season."

By Mark Viera  |  June 3, 2009; 4:00 PM ET
 
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Comments

First Again?

Posted by: CheyenneWY | June 3, 2009 4:02 PM | Report abuse

2rd

Posted by: jmicrodoc | June 3, 2009 4:03 PM | Report abuse

dam beeped again....I find these posts monotonous.....its all just hollow June player speak....

Posted by: chrislarry | June 3, 2009 4:04 PM | Report abuse

"I think we're still as good and as deep,"

[insert 70s porn bass]

Posted by: CheyenneWY | June 3, 2009 4:05 PM | Report abuse

"Of course it's going to enter your mind, stuff you do on the field, interceptions and stuff that's going to be good to help you as far as negations. I just want to play out my season."


If he's counting on INTs to help in his negotiations, its going to be an uphill battle for him...


Posted by: p1funk | June 3, 2009 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Okay, so is Carlos saying if he gets a bunch of picks this year it might help him out contract wise? Let’s hope so……maybe he can find some version of stickum that is not technically on the banned list……..

Posted by: dlhaze1 | June 3, 2009 4:11 PM | Report abuse

The series will depend on two players: Andrew Bynum and Rashard Lewis. Why? Because of these two players, neither team can guard the other.

The Lakers are defensively shorthanded because of one player: Pau Gasol. He can't defend Howard 1 v 1 in the post, and he can't defend Rashard Lewis on the perimeter. However, he's way too valuable offensively to leave on the bench for LA. He's going to get his minutes. The question then becomes "who do we pair with Pau"? Do the Lakers go Bynum, and risk Pau on Rashard? Or do the Lakers go with Odom, and risk Gasol on Howard?

I think they go with Bynum. The Lakers can ill-afford to get Gasol in foul trouble (or so they believe). They won't risk him by asking him to defend Howard in the post. And therefore, for Orlando, their x-factor is Rashard Lewis. If he can light up Gasol on the perimeter, LA will be forced to change up.

On the flipside, if LA does decide to go Bynum/Gasol, the dilemma comes for Orlando: where to put Lewis? Do you stick him on the stronger, yet less skilled Bynum? Or the weaker, yet more dangerous Gasol? I'd guess he gets paired up with Bynum. Howard will neutralize Gasol and force LA to become a one-man offense. And we already know a one-man offense doesn't beat Orlando (ask Lebron). LA will counter by relying on Bynum to dominate Lewis (to relieve the pressure from Kobe). And again, the ex-factor falls on those two. If Bynum steps up his offensive game, Orlando may have to go with a Howard/Gortat combo, or a back-and-forth offensive assault between Lewis and Bynum. If not, Orlando will survive with Lewis defending an offensively inept big man (as he did in the Cleveland series), and LA may be forced to switch Bynum for Odom.

And again, LA doesn't want that. They don't want Gasol lined up on Howard. Too much risk for foul trouble, too much energy expended on defense, and it throws off their gameplan.

So to me it becomes this: who do you trust more, Rashard Lewis or Andrew Bynum?

I say Lewis. And I say Orlando. In 5 (boldly). Book it.

Posted by: psps23

Posted by: psps23 | June 3, 2009 4:14 PM | Report abuse

We're only thin from #4 down, and only that because Barnes is a question mark at this point. If he can push Smoot for the #3 spot, we'll be solid.

I expect nothing out of Tryon, so any improvement there would be a welcome surprise. Maybe Westbrook can challenge him in camp this year, but if we have to rely on either of those guys for any period of time we're in trouble.

Posted by: McMetal | June 3, 2009 4:14 PM | Report abuse

LH - My comments are based off this from the AP -

"Magic general manager Otis
Smith had repeatedly said Nelson
will not play again this season. But
he recanted his comments Monday
and said a quicker recovery and the
chance of winning a championship
has forced him to at least take a look
at Nelson. – AP"

Posted by: 4thFloor | June 3, 2009 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Smoot, Fred
Westbrook, Byron
Tryon, Justin
Rogers, Carlos
Dutch, Doug
Hall, DeAngelo
Barnes, Kevin
Moore, Kareem

Thats our list of CB/DB

Posted by: alex35332 | June 3, 2009 4:20 PM | Report abuse

CheyenneWY, thanks for taking time to notice my mispellings, more like typo... sheesh some of you must live very inadequate lives to have to capitalize on mispellings/typos/grammar.

Never claimed to be some sort of literature genuis. But you go ahead with whatever it is that satisfies that void in your miserable life, jackass.

So with that, go ahead and feel free to proofread (was that one word mister) every single damn word I post from here until the end of time.

A**hole.

P.S. For every word you find incorrect, I'll give you something, I'll wait for your response until roughly 4:40, after that I gotta go -- metered timing and all..

Posted by: RedDMV | June 3, 2009 4:21 PM | Report abuse

I like the "gatorade" Barnes kid. He is big, and comes up in run and swing pass support with violence.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | June 3, 2009 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Nelson will play, not start.

The Magic would be dumb not to roll him out and at least see what he can give for a 5-10 minute stretch.

It's the freakin' Finals.

Book it!

Posted by: p1funk | June 3, 2009 4:26 PM | Report abuse

CheyenneWY, thanks for taking time to notice my mispellings, more like typo... sheesh some of you must live very inadequate lives to have to capitalize on mispellings/typos/grammar.

Never claimed to be some sort of literature genuis. But you go ahead with whatever it is that satisfies that void in your miserable life, jackass.

So with that, go ahead and feel free to proofread (was that one word mister) every single damn word I post from here until the end of time.

A**hole.

P.S. For every word you find incorrect, I'll give you something, I'll wait for your response until roughly 4:40, after that I gotta go -- metered timing and all..

Posted by: RedDMV | June 3, 2009 4:21 PM | Report abuse

I am the worst at spelling on this thing, trust me. I honestly thought there was a word I didnt know. I got the gist of what you meant obviously so there was no bad intention on my part...sorry if you took it that way.

That aside, why am I a "jackass" but only an "a**hole" should it not be jacka**


Posted by: CheyenneWY | June 3, 2009 4:29 PM | Report abuse

p1, how is Evans not marginal? C'mon dude, just becasue Evans was the best player on a very average unit doesn't make him anymore than what he really is: A marginal player, playing with other okay to average players, on a average team.

Did he stand out yeah, but so does CheyenneWY's moms. Does that necessarily make her better, or good for that matter?

Posted by: RedDMV | June 3, 2009 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Unfortunately my mother suffered a stroke about a year and a half ago and is unable to "stand" at all.

thanks for the shoutout though; I am sure she would appreciate it.

Posted by: CheyenneWY | June 3, 2009 4:34 PM | Report abuse

I have decided to declare that basketball is now the 4 seed sport in DC. Maybe even 5th if you throw DCU in there. I base this off arbitrary rankings I give to the quality of the team + the coolness of the team + fans wearing gear at random.

1. Skins
2. Caps
3. Nats
4. DCU
5. Wizz

Posted by: alex35332 | June 3, 2009 4:36 PM | Report abuse

fwiw, on Orakpo's highlight video, there are only 3 run plays. One is a misdirection where he's waiting for the RB -- its the first play on the video.

The other two puzzled me. Both come around 2:15 into it. In both plays, he gets blocked effectively. First by a tight end, then by a pulling guard. Both times, he's pushed around a bunch.

Most of the rest of the video is Orakpo succeeding because of his speed. If this video is representative (and I'm not saying it is -- I don't know) I think the LB idea makes sense.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZTelDHwUwY

Posted by: zcezcest1 | June 3, 2009 4:38 PM | Report abuse

hey CheyenneWY, you have my full attention now... you like to play, sh*t then, I'll play with you -- TheTruth was getting old anyway... so lets play. What do you do personal matters? Family?

"You come at the king, you bets not miss"

Not that I'm royalty, but if you joke around be prepared for whateva that will come out... tell you what, lets resume tomorrow. Think real hard tonight about you next-not-so-funny punchline. I usually pull this sh*t off the top of my head, so, I'm good.

Posted by: RedDMV | June 3, 2009 4:38 PM | Report abuse

What about the guys not named Rogers, Hall, and Smoot? We pretty much know what we got there.

We need that rookie we got in the 3rd to step up.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | June 3, 2009 4:42 PM | Report abuse

wow Red, hair trigger today uh....wow...

Posted by: chrislarry | June 3, 2009 4:44 PM | Report abuse

From Twitter:
RedskinsInsiderCoolest thing about my job was being pulled into the KornBon/Talking Pts. "spit zone." I'm forever grateful to 2 wunnerful dudes: http://tr

Http://tr??????? what kind of link is this? Fix your tweet RI.

Posted by: will_ga | June 3, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

anyone want to talk nascar, softball or fishing......

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | June 3, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

the secondary is probably 1 of just 2 units that is better in 2009 vs 2008 (DL is the other). We did lose a talented guy in Springs. But all 4 starters are still improving (Hall, Rogers, Landry and Horton). Of the nickel and backup guys, only Smoot is on the downside, while Moore and Doughty are also still improving. The one risk is that we need both CBs to stay healthy, Smoot is a big drop from the Hall or Rogers.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | June 3, 2009 4:46 PM | Report abuse

What do you do personal matters? Family?
Posted by: RedDMV | June 3, 2009 4:38 PM


You started the game (see 4:30 post) by bringing up family, so what's your problem with him giving you a sarcastic little comeback? You can dish it, but can't take it?

Posted by: tripz | June 3, 2009 4:46 PM | Report abuse

I entered a Redskins Web Log community and ended up with front row tix to virtual boxing matches everyday. Coooool......

Posted by: 4thFloor | June 3, 2009 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Red, are you an ass clown by nature, or do you have to train?

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | June 3, 2009 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Bean, mmmm, softball! We had our season opener on April 26th and haven't played since (rain-outs, holidays, pseudo-holidays, etc.). So I'm looking forward to knocking the rust off (again) and having a nice long season (At this point, with all the make-ups we'll be scheduling, we'll be playing in November!).

Posted by: tripz | June 3, 2009 4:50 PM | Report abuse

...quality of the team + the coolness of the team + fans wearing gear at random.
1. Skins
2. Caps
3. Nats
4. DCU
5. Wizz

Posted by: alex35332 | June 3, 2009

I'd say the Wiz move up to 3rd by Christmas.

Posted by: will_ga | June 3, 2009 4:52 PM | Report abuse

softball/fishing....sure

NASCAR...never...

Posted by: chrislarry | June 3, 2009 4:52 PM | Report abuse

tripz, nice, what are you swinging??

i picked up a NIW Worth Supercell from 1998, its a great stick. I also got a Nokona composite this year, they're supposed to hit/last like an Ultra II. I was looking on ebay the other night, and they had a bunch of Original Demarini's out there....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | June 3, 2009 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Considering the Nats will officially be out of post-season contention by July, I'd push the Wiz up to 3rd by August.

Posted by: tripz | June 3, 2009 4:54 PM | Report abuse

I'd say the Wiz move up to 3rd by Christmas.
Posted by: will_ga | June 3, 2009 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Maybe. But in my book they still have yet to make up for the bad name / uniform change. people think it would not effect the skins fan base... I was a fan of the Bullets not the wiz

Posted by: alex35332 | June 3, 2009 4:55 PM | Report abuse

cL - What's your view on the potential snitch who will soon out the CAPS players?

Posted by: 4thFloor | June 3, 2009 4:55 PM | Report abuse

anyone want to talk nascar, softball or fishing......

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | June 3, 2009 4:45 PM |

I'll take fishing for 40, Greg:

Who you think will take the Bass Super Bowl this year? [I hope this is a legitimate question. I'm just trying to be relevant.]

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 3, 2009 4:55 PM | Report abuse

cl, what do you fish for? I'm a big fan of largemouth bass fishing, don't get out on the salt that much. Almost all of my gear is set up as such, I go 10 pound test on all my reels, mostly 6 footers, 2 baitcasters, and one open face. Although my Abu-Garcia needs to go to the shop for some repairs, think the worm drive is shot....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | June 3, 2009 4:57 PM | Report abuse

I thought CL was a large mouth bass. :)

Posted by: alex35332 | June 3, 2009 4:58 PM | Report abuse

hahaha RedDepartmentofMotorVehicles cries when someone responds to his lame insults.

He tries to hide it by acting 'big and bad'. I bet tomorrow he challenges someone to drive to the Department of Motor Vehicles and fight him beside the local Five Guys.

What a maroon.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | June 3, 2009 4:58 PM | Report abuse

te, thats not even close to funny....I don't follow the tour that much, I'd rather spend my time doing what they're doing, than watching them do it.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | June 3, 2009 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Bean - I've got a couple of bats that I use on a regular basis. A Worth EST from around 2002 and a 2007 Easton synergy (don't remember the exact model off hand). Of course the DeMarini double wall is always a good fall back.

Posted by: tripz | June 3, 2009 4:59 PM | Report abuse

"You started the game (see 4:30 post) by bringing up family, so what's your problem with him giving you a sarcastic little comeback? You can dish it, but can't take it?

Posted by: tripz |"

That's something Red does on the usual. He just runs off at the mouth like a futtbucker, and then if anyone responds or replies, he cries about how he was just responding to said responder.

What a piece of work. Must be a sad, sad human being IRL.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | June 3, 2009 5:00 PM | Report abuse

I don't follow the tour that much, I'd rather spend my time doing what they're doing, than watching them do it.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | June 3, 2009 4:58 PM |

I know what you mean! That's the same way I feel about porn.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 3, 2009 5:02 PM | Report abuse

trip, nice sticks, good choices. I play ASA rules, and I've got a 2004 Worth PST XTRA thats just sitting around gathering dust, being that its on the 'banned bat list'....

We bought a new Demarini b-52 as a team bat this year, its just starting to open up it seems like....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | June 3, 2009 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Bean: I kind of like crabbing the best, or other shell fish. Great memories of clamming at jersey shore. Maybe its b/c I like to eat that stuff the best. I also enjoy surf casting at the ocean. Not a huge fisherman....but I enjoy its medatative qualities....

Good one Alex!

Posted by: chrislarry | June 3, 2009 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Heh, heh! He said "futtbucker"! Schweet!

Posted by: tripz | June 3, 2009 5:03 PM | Report abuse

softball/fishing....sure

NASCAR...never...

Posted by: chrislarry

You'd rather discuss soft balls than the fun that is the Nascar equation: women+ head swiveling around repeatedly+ beer+ hot weekend afternoon = = = dizzy drunk women!!!! Hell...yeah. Well, till they puke on you, that's quite the buzzkill.

Posted by: will_ga | June 3, 2009 5:05 PM | Report abuse

He said "futtbucker"!

Posted by: tripz | June 3, 2009 5:03 PM

Yeah, but he couldn't spell it.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 3, 2009 5:05 PM | Report abuse

cL - What's your view on the potential snitch who will soon out the CAPS players?

Posted by: 4thFloor | June 3, 2009 4:55 PM | Report abuse

UGH is my basic response...wishin hopin prayin it aint true. And trying to ignore it. Then if it does break, just hope its not Alex O.

Then if it is true I will act like i did in highschool when the 4 caps were accused of gang rape at post season party...."Its a set up!"

Posted by: chrislarry | June 3, 2009 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Bean - I'm with ya on the banned bats deal. I've had to break the news to a couple of my guys that their newly-purchased bat was "illegal".

"Yeah, but it says ASA approved!"

Then I have to go through the whole explanation of, just because it's "approved", doesn't make it legal. I smartened (is that a word?) up and started forwarding and printing the lists of bats, well before the season starts.

Posted by: tripz | June 3, 2009 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of sports, I watched an AMAZING documentary yesterday that comes out in the Fall called "Swallow Your Pride" about competitive eating. The center narrative is a rematch between The Black Widow and El Wingador at Philly's annual Wing Bowl. Simply brilliant. Competitive eating is a sport I can get behind.

Posted by: chrislarry | June 3, 2009 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Just don't get behind the participants.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | June 3, 2009 5:14 PM | Report abuse

I just fired down six sliders and an angry whopper.

If you listen real close you can juuusssst about hear the tumors forming.

Posted by: CheyenneWY | June 3, 2009 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Good point as always LH!

Posted by: chrislarry | June 3, 2009 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: will_ga | June 3, 2009 5:18 PM | Report abuse

...."Its a set up!"

Posted by: chrislarry | June 3, 2009 5:06 PM

Spoken like a true fan......

Now you know how I feel about Vick! Speaking of Vick, I know some of you saw Real Sports this week. And they again showed how constant horse losers are shipped to the slaughterhouse to be eatin with in a week in Europe as a delicatessan.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | June 3, 2009 5:22 PM | Report abuse

negations?

Posted by: BMACattack | June 3, 2009 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Redskinettes by a 100 miles.

But the Wiz Dancers are some phattys, though. The best part of a Wizard's Game. Even the bench players stare instead of paying attention in their prospective huddle.........

Posted by: 4thFloor | June 3, 2009 5:28 PM | Report abuse

"the Redskins appeared relatively thin at cornerback"

Really? I mean, seriously? Its one of the positions we are doing great. Springs is only productive when healthy and that hasnt happened much as of late and he is only getting older. keeping him at CB would make the line up weaker. I voted for putting him at saftey or releasing him. like alex said:

Smoot, Fred
Westbrook, Byron
Tryon, Justin
Rogers, Carlos
Dutch, Doug
Hall, DeAngelo
Barnes, Kevin
Moore, Kareem

Thats our list of CB/DB

Posted by: alex35332 | June 3, 2009 4:20 PM | Report abuse

nuff said.

Posted by: erleach | June 3, 2009 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Springs was OK but it is not a huge loss. The secondary will be just fine...not elite, just fine

Posted by: CheyenneWY | June 3, 2009 5:33 PM | Report abuse

p1, how is Evans not marginal? C'mon dude, just becasue Evans was the best player on a very average unit doesn't make him anymore than what he really is: A marginal player, playing with other okay to average players, on a average team.

Did he stand out yeah, but so does CheyenneWY's moms. Does that necessarily make her better, or good for that matter?

Posted by: RedDMV | June 3, 2009 4:30 PM | Report abuse


Is Evans "marginal" as far as the whole NFL goes? Yes. He's not making any ProBowls. And he only fetched a couple mill as an FA.

But you're hard-pressed to say he's "marginal" for our team when he was our best lineman last year. If he were back this season he would be our 2nd or 3rd best D-lineman (AH would be #1, and I can possibly see Carter having a nice year) - how is that "marginal"?

"Marginal" players are guys who don't see the field, and in the rare occasions that they do they don't make much of an impact.

"Marginal" players would be guys like Rhinehart, Rob Jackson, Tryon, Malcolm Kelly, Fred Davis, Devin Thomas, Colt Brennan, Alex Buzbee...basically all the guys we draft...

Posted by: p1funk | June 3, 2009 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Rogers:Secondary Will Be Okay Without Springs

Hell, when were they not okay without him?
The guy was always hurt the last few years.

The Patriots secondary is going to be okay without him too, watch and see.LOL!!

Posted by: 72Redskins | June 3, 2009 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Wilson and "O" both learning to be linebackers/blitzers. Zorn talking of two tightend formations. Anyone see a pattern?

Posted by: Keyskonnection | June 3, 2009 5:42 PM | Report abuse

There are 64 starting CB in NFL.

In my view, Hall and Rogers are among the top 32 starting CBs. Hall is in argument for top ten, Rogers is no worse than mid-late 20's.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | June 3, 2009 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Jason Campbell Taking Charge In D.C.
Posted by Mike Florio on June 3, 2009, 4:57 p.m. EDT

I hope so, I really really do.

Posted by: will_ga | June 3, 2009 5:52 PM | Report abuse

Safeties:

37 Doughty, Reed possible cut
40 Grant, Michael practice squad/camp body
29 Holmes, Lendy practice squad/ camp body
48 Horton, Chris
30 Landry, LaRon
41 Moore, Kareem

Cornerbacks:

25 Barnes, Kevin
24 Dutch, Doug cut
23 Hall, DeAngelo
22 Rogers, Carlos
27 Smoot, Fred
20 Tryon, Justin practice squad/ cut
34 Westbrook, Byron practice squad/ cut

Posted by: jimmy_the_crickett | June 3, 2009 5:52 PM | Report abuse

I usually pull this sh*t off the top of my head, so, I'm good.

Posted by: RedDMV | June 3, 2009 4:38 PM

So that's it! I just got it! He has sh*t on top of his head! I'd be a pizzed off, hair-triggered, whinny, misdirected putz too.

Posted by: tripz | June 3, 2009 5:56 PM | Report abuse

Just gotta throw it out there. I, for one, am glad to see Rodney Harrison leave the game. Dirty rotten cheater.

Maybe an NBC cameraman will dive into the back of Harrison's knee when he's not paying attention so he can see how it feels.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4226658

Posted by: p1funk | June 3, 2009 6:06 PM | Report abuse

4th, I think you mean "delicacy" rather than "delicatessen".

How many corners and safeties did the Skins carry last year? Was it 5 and 5?

Skins look OK at corner but a little thin at safety, as in Reed Doughty might actually survive another season.

Posted by: dcsween | June 3, 2009 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Any Terp/ACC fans out there know whether Kevin Barnes ever played safety? I know he was tagged as the hardest hitting corner in the ACC (and not just for the hit on Jahvid Best and the hit where he broke both his own and some other guy's collar bone). Hard hitting is a good trait in a safety.

Posted by: dcsween | June 3, 2009 6:22 PM | Report abuse

I'd say the Wiz move up to 3rd by Christmas.
Posted by: will_ga | June 3, 2009 4:52 PM

Maybe. But in my book they still have yet to make up for the bad name / uniform change. people think it would not effect the skins fan base... I was a fan of the Bullets not the wiz
Posted by: alex35332 | June 3, 2009 4:55 PM

I think they should change their name to the Buzzards. It would be a good compromise between Bullets and Wizards, and appropriate too. The are just about the closest thing in the NBA to carion.

Posted by: kaasmaster | June 3, 2009 6:32 PM | Report abuse

I just wish that they weren't as bad at ping-pong as they are at basketball. ;)

Posted by: kaasmaster | June 3, 2009 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Nadya "Octomom" Suleman blasts Kate Gosselin


To the pantheon of epoch-defining debates — Lincoln vs. Douglas, William Jennings Bryan vs. Clarence Darrow — we can now add: Octomom vs. Kate.

Yes, Kate Gosselin, star of the reality show "Jon & Kate Plus 8," and Nadya "Octomom" Suleman, who apparently is about to get a reality show of her own, have delightfully begun sniping at one another.


-------- place your bets, people ------

Posted by: zcezcest1 | June 3, 2009 6:54 PM | Report abuse

This is not right, no more Jasno to kick around and you guys start turning on each other.

Posted by: SkinsfaninPeru | June 3, 2009 7:20 PM | Report abuse

New poll: Who's hotter?

Wizard girls
http://www.nba.com/wizards/dance/auditions_09.html

Redskinettes
http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Redskins_Cheerleaders_Name_New_Squad_3842.jsp

Posted by: will_ga ****

what a group of pigs judging them(pic 5 of 13) and pick 13(i think) is showing a cameltoe. Classic!

Posted by: lsskinsfan | June 3, 2009 7:27 PM | Report abuse

I really wish the children would leave this site. It is designed to give opinion on Redskins news and NOT trying to see who can be the 1st to post or take stupid gratuitous shots at the Post sports columnist.
Now as to Carlos Rogers, in my humble opinion, except for the first 4-6 games of last season he has been one of the biggest goats to ever play the corner for the Skins. When his contract runs out let him go with it. He appears to be just another one of those guys Cerrato picks like (receivers Kelly and Devon Thomas) who despite their skills just can't or don't produce.

Posted by: pd2710 | June 3, 2009 7:55 PM | Report abuse

This is not right, no more Jasno to kick around and you guys start turning on each other.

Posted by: SkinsfaninPeru | June 3, 2009 7:20 PM

You're new here, aren't you? We always turned on each other. You wanna piece of me?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 3, 2009 8:34 PM | Report abuse

This is not right, no more Jasno to kick around and you guys start turning on each other.

Posted by: SkinsfaninPeru | June 3, 2009 7:20 PM


Actually 'talent_evaluator' and 'cork' enjoy flirting, stoking each other's egos among other things from time to time.

Posted by: Vicc | June 3, 2009 8:41 PM | Report abuse

hey TE, you have my full attention now... you like to play, sh*t then, I'll play with you -- blog was getting old anyway... so lets play....Oh wait, I'm sorry. I guess I was having a RedDMV moment...my bad...

Posted by: tripz | June 3, 2009 8:41 PM | Report abuse

It seems Brian Westbrook, Rb of the Iggles, needs ankle surgery that may sideline him until Mid-training camp.

lol. I wonder how many Iggles faithful are
panicking.

I know how some 'Skins fans react to injury, so I guess this means Westbrook won't be a competing at a high level anymore; that dude gets injured every year.

Posted by: Vicc | June 3, 2009 8:50 PM | Report abuse

I really wish the children would leave this site. It is designed to give opinion on Redskins news and NOT trying to see who can be the 1st to post or take stupid gratuitous shots at the Post sports columnist.
Posted by: pd2710 | June 3, 2009 7:55 PM


how about you go F yourself.

Posted by: toohoes | June 3, 2009 10:11 PM | Report abuse

Good to see the Redskinettes have 3 girls named Ashley.

Now if they could just recruit Miss Teen South Carolina...
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | June 3, 2009 11:00 PM | Report abuse

"We're only thin from #4 down, and only that because Barnes is a question mark at this point. If he can push Smoot for the #3 spot, we'll be solid."

I like Smoot. One of my all time faves. I'm really glad he came back, and two years ago he was a heck of a player. But he's lost a step. It showed last year.

I also think there's something to Springs being able to play the slot. Skins don't have big CBs. And one of the starters doesn't have fingers. Could be trouble, and the assertion that they're as deep as last year is pretty sorry. Nice, Rogers.

Osama, like, such as, the Iraq doesn't have maps.

Posted by: WorstSeat | June 3, 2009 11:44 PM | Report abuse

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2009/06/mike_williams_is_large_the_pho.html#more

What a sight.. makes me wonder "Can Mike Williams play defensive tackle?" because he looks a lot bigger than Albert Haynesworth!

Posted by: RedCherokee | June 4, 2009 12:11 AM | Report abuse

Ok, I just checked the roster.. not by much. Just awesome!

Posted by: RedCherokee | June 4, 2009 12:29 AM | Report abuse

Hopefully this is the start of something good...from PFT:

Jason Campbell Taking Charge In D.C.
Posted by Mike Florio on June 3, 2009, 4:57 p.m.
With the Redskins chasing Jay Cutler and then Mark Sanchez earlier this year, incumbent starting quarterback Jason Campbell has, by all appearances, become more determined than ever to succeed.

We’re told that Campbell has been taking an active role in getting his teammates to attend voluntary offseason workouts, badgering guys who didn’t show up to attend and participate.

There’s also a feeling that Campbell and coach Jim Zorn have developed a strong bond, given that both men’s futures with the Redskins will be determined in large part by their ability to succeed this year.

In our view, anything less than a playoff berth and an appearance in the divisional round or better will result in Campbell leaving via free agency, and Zorn leaving via termination.

And if Zorn goes, look for the Redskins to make a serious run at one of the two Mikes who’ll be on the market come January — Mike Shanahan and Mike Holmgren.

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 4, 2009 7:06 AM | Report abuse

I hope that Carlos Rogers steps up his game because it is a contract year. It is time for him to start holding onto those interceptions. Maybe he can learn a little from Hall on interceptions. So, Rogers is in a contract year and Hall has to redeem himself after his fall from grace with the Raiders (and the Madden videogame disrespect). I like it. Maybe we'll have two guys playing with a chip on their shoulder come the regular season. By the way, I am rooting for Barnes to steal that number three job away from Smoot. At this point in his career, Smoot is more mouth than action and I think Barnes can do it. I would love to see him bring the "gatorade hit" to any Giants receiver in that first game.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | June 4, 2009 7:28 AM | Report abuse

I honestly think Cerrato and JC17 agent are both regular sources to Florio.

Posted by: 4thFloor | June 4, 2009 8:06 AM | Report abuse

Yes, Kate Gosselin, star of the reality show "Jon & Kate Plus 8," and Nadya "Octomom" Suleman, who apparently is about to get a reality show of her own, have delightfully begun sniping at one another.


-------- place your bets, people ------

Posted by: zcezcest1 | June 3, 2009 6:54 PM

My money goes to Octomom....

Posted by: 4thFloor | June 4, 2009 8:20 AM | Report abuse

From last night:

cl, good stuff, never been crabbing, seems like it would be fun, with a good payoff at the end. I went to a place in Jersey one time, Watermans, all you can eat shrimp and crabs, I ate till I was just about sick.

trip, yeah, no kidding. I was at a Sporting Goods Store, Dick's, I believe, and they had printed and lamintated a list of the approved bats and hung it next to the bats they were selling.

Personally, I think its only a matter of time before someone playing U-Trip ends up dead as a result of a batted ball. ASA dumbed it down to 94 MPH batted ball speed, U-Trip, is 120. Thats asking for someone to end up dead....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | June 4, 2009 8:21 AM | Report abuse

I don't think anything can save Zorn or Cambpell this year. The FO has shown in the past that they have no problem with blowning the team up after a successful year. If they think they can upgrade or get a bigger name after this year, I expect them to do it regardless of how well the team does.

Posted by: Original_etrod | June 4, 2009 8:22 AM | Report abuse

I don't think anything can save Zorn or Cambpell this year. The FO has shown in the past that they have no problem with blowning the team up after a successful year. If they think they can upgrade or get a bigger name after this year, I expect them to do it regardless of how well the team does.

Posted by: Original_etrod | June 4, 2009 8:22 AM

When has Danny blown the team up after a "successful" season? It happened when he fired Norv when he was 7-6 in the middle of a playoff race and did it to Marty after an 8-8 season. I wouldn't call either of those scenarios "successful"...

That said, I get the spirit of what you're saying...Marty was 8-3 the last 11 games that year and the team looked to be headed in the right direction going into 2002. When Norv was canned I'm pretty sure the Skins would have been in the playoffs had the season ended at 13 games. If they won only one more game they likely would have been in that year.

But I just don't see the team getting blown up unless they drop to like 5 or 6 wins. Unfortunately, that's a very real possibility...

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 4, 2009 8:43 AM | Report abuse

WaPo scooped again on Thrash' possible retirement due to injury...Times was all over it.

This is big news, IMO. That would essentially force us to rely on one of these young unproven WR's like Thomas/Kelly/Marko. And they better hope none of these guys get injured or they may be forced to trade for a veteran presence.

I really wish JT the best and hope he makes the best decision for him and his family. He has been a consummate professional and a true Redskin in his second term here.

Posted by: McMetal | June 4, 2009 8:54 AM | Report abuse

It seems Brian Westbrook, Rb of the Iggles, needs ankle surgery that may sideline him until Mid-training camp.
lol. I wonder how many Iggles faithful are
panicking.
I know how some 'Skins fans react to injury, so I guess this means Westbrook won't be a competing at a high level anymore; that dude gets injured every year.
Posted by: Vicc | June 3, 2009 8:50 PM
Nobody up here seems to worried, as the surgeon is the same guy who fixed up TO when the Eagles went to the superbowl. Also, they drafted a “westbrook-clone” in the early rounds of the draft. Anyway, all the iggles chatter is the same as it is down in DC…..so and so is ready for a big year, so and so is going to step up, so and so and so and so are competing in a friendly manner, all the rookies look great….blah blah blah…..

On another note…isn’t there a limit on how many years a guy can be on the practice squad? I think the limit is 2, so this year Byron Westbrook has to make the team or else he is gone…..I think…..

Posted by: dlhaze1 | June 4, 2009 8:55 AM | Report abuse

"...It seems Brian Westbrook, Rb of the Iggles, needs ankle surgery that may sideline him until Mid-training camp. I wonder how many Iggles faithful are
panicking..."

None.

They still have an improving Desean Jackson, added Jeremy Maclin, LeSean McCoy, and Cornelius Ingraham.

They let their aging tackles Tra Thomas and Jon Runyan go and decided to make younger tackle additions their 'big splashy' move.

And oh, they still have a Pro Bowl quarterback they love to hate in Dononvan McNabb who just took them to the NFC Championship game after a midseason benching.

Yes: we beat them twice. And they made a deep playoff run while we bragged about two nothing victories.

The iggles go into the season having added more pieces to their good offense and still have a great defense. The iggles have to be the favorites to win the division.

If you want to mock a team in the NFC East, Dallas is always there for the insult.

The iggles and jints, on the other hand, are two very good football teams.

Posted by: MistaMoe | June 4, 2009 9:05 AM | Report abuse

Going off of Snyder's progressive track record, I doubt he will blow up this team if he sees direction. He hasn't blown up any team since Norv and MArty, which he was wrong on both fronts. Spurrier quit and Gibbs 2.0 realized his days are numbered here on earth and wanted to enjoy them outside of Redskins Park.

But Zorn is an unusual person, so we really don't know.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | June 4, 2009 9:12 AM | Report abuse

brown, 2000 and 2006. Coming off appearances in the divisional round of the playoffs, rosters and coaching staffs were overhauled.

Posted by: Original_etrod | June 4, 2009 9:12 AM | Report abuse

brown, 2000 and 2006. Coming off appearances in the divisional round of the playoffs, rosters and coaching staffs were overhauled.

Posted by: Original_etrod | June 4, 2009 9:12 AM

I see what you're saying now...but I don't call that "blowing the team up". That's more along the lines of adding too much in the name of getting that "last piece of the puzzle". In both instances staying the course would have yielded better results than diving head first into free agency after guys that ultimately didn't help.

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 4, 2009 9:16 AM | Report abuse

Danny was foolish to fire Norv mid-season like that; it was a kicker and a few Stephen Davis fumbles away from being a REALLY good team. That was foolish, but hiring Marty to rebuild out of cap hell was smart. I just think that he 1.Didn’t like how Marty insisted on doing things his own way, and 2. Wanted Spurrier all along……we all know hiring Spurrier was foolish. Hiring Gibbs after Spurrier quit was both lucky and smart. Then Gibbs quit and they actually went through a pretty extensive hiring process and appear to have had to “settle” for Zorn. I like this move, and we’ll see if Danny has learned patience….we’ll just have to see.

To sum up, as far as coaching moves go (IMHO):
Foolish moves – 3 (fire norv, fire marty, hire Spurrier)
Good Moves – 3 (hire Marty, hire Gibbs, hire Zorn)

Unfortunately the biggest foolish decision he has made thus far was not hiring a GM worthy of running the organization. Unless we win a SB under Cerrato in the next couple of years of course. Then we will all hail Snyderatto

Posted by: dlhaze1 | June 4, 2009 9:25 AM | Report abuse

"...It seems Brian Westbrook, Rb of the Iggles, needs ankle surgery that may sideline him until Mid-training camp. I wonder how many Iggles faithful are
panicking..."

None.

They still have an improving Desean Jackson, added Jeremy Maclin, LeSean McCoy, and Cornelius Ingraham.

They let their aging tackles Tra Thomas and Jon Runyan go and decided to make younger tackle additions their 'big splashy' move.

And oh, they still have a Pro Bowl quarterback they love to hate in Dononvan McNabb who just took them to the NFC Championship game after a midseason benching.

Yes: we beat them twice. And they made a deep playoff run while we bragged about two nothing victories.

The iggles go into the season having added more pieces to their good offense and still have a great defense. The iggles have to be the favorites to win the division.

If you want to mock a team in the NFC East, Dallas is always there for the insult.

The iggles and jints, on the other hand, are two very good football teams.

Posted by: MistaMoe | June 4, 2009 9:05 AM

The biggest challenge for the Eagles might be doing without their defensive coordinator, Jim Johnson. It's been a luxury for Andy Reid to have his DC there all that time. The Eagles fell apart under Ray Rhodes when he lost Gruden to the Raiders.

Posted by: skinfanman | June 4, 2009 9:27 AM | Report abuse

The biggest challenge for the Eagles might be doing without their defensive coordinator, Jim Johnson. It's been a luxury for Andy Reid to have his DC there all that time. The Eagles fell apart under Ray Rhodes when he lost Gruden to the Raiders.
Posted by: skinfanman | June 4, 2009 9:27 AM

Jim Johnson is gone? I did not know that….are you sure? That would be great news!

Posted by: dlhaze1 | June 4, 2009 9:30 AM | Report abuse

Jim Johnson is gone? I did not know that….are you sure? That would be great news!
Posted by: dlhaze1 | June 4, 2009 9:30 AM | Report
Medical leave. I haven't seen where he has officially retired but I know they brought in an additional coach so the writing may be on the wall for him. I'd rather him get fired because his defense sucks rather than leave because of cancer.

Posted by: will_ga | June 4, 2009 9:36 AM | Report abuse

Jim Johnson is gone? I did not know that….are you sure? That would be great news!


Posted by: dlhaze1 | June 4, 2009 9:30 AM

Um, not really...he's got cancer. I hate Philly as much as the next guy, but I don't wish cancer on anyone.

Even from a football standpoint, we DID sweep Philly last year with him coordinating that defense...

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 4, 2009 9:41 AM | Report abuse

What a maroon.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | June 3, 2009 4:58 PM

You're quoting Bugs Bunny?? When you go to those celebrity skin sites, is the first name you click on Jessica Rabbit?

Posted by: will_ga | June 4, 2009 9:41 AM | Report abuse

They still have an improving Desean Jackson, added Jeremy Maclin, LeSean McCoy, and Cornelius Ingraham.

They let their aging tackles Tra Thomas and Jon Runyan go and decided to make younger tackle additions their 'big splashy' move.

How do we know Deshean Jackson is improving,and all of their unknown rookies are gonna step right in?Jackson had the ego to do it,but will he become complacent.

And as far as Peters and Andrews,playin in Philly is a whole different ballgame than Buffalo,and Cinnci.so we're gonna have to wait and see how they adjust,and have to play in the Nfc east 6 times a year.having a rivalry with Miami pales in comparison to Skins,Giants,and Cowboys.

Posted by: jumbo5383 | June 4, 2009 9:43 AM | Report abuse

blowing up is a bit of an overstatement, although I agree completely with the thesis...

Lets call it excessive tinkering!?

Posted by: chrislarry | June 4, 2009 9:52 AM | Report abuse

Well, too bad about Johnson....I was hoping he just up and retired....

Posted by: dlhaze1 | June 4, 2009 9:53 AM | Report abuse

What a maroon.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | June 3, 2009 4:58 PM

is he a maroon or black.

Posted by: alex35332 | June 4, 2009 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Opponent retirement rulz
Opponent cance drulz

Posted by: chrislarry | June 4, 2009 9:57 AM | Report abuse

bleep, breep

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | June 4, 2009 10:05 AM | Report abuse

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