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Ross Tucker???

Okay, so when this guy was around the facility over the weekend I didn't think anything of it. Then he was back today, and I still thought not much of it. But the Skins have signed him now ... and I still don't think this is the guy who will play in Dock's spot.

They have improved their depth, but I don't see Ross or Pucillo starting ahead of whatever other veteran guard they sign, or the O Lineman they draft, or either. Or both. (This probably isn't making any sense, eh?).

So, basically, what I'm saying is I am still going to be on the Mulitalo/Piller/Timmerman/Wade watch regardless of this signing. Can't imagine the Skins doing anything more tha n one year at the vet. minimum.

Ross - nicknames "The Rooster" so I've been told - made the Skins as an undrafted guy in 2001 out of Princeton. Spend a season in Dallas as a reserve and started a bit for Grilliams's Bills teams in 2003 and 2004. He played one game for the Pats in 2005, went to camp with the Browns in 2006 and got whacked last September.

Best I can tell he's been out of football since. He's 6-4, 316, so the size is definitely going for him, but I would think there would be at least one more proven NFL body for him to compete with at guard before training camp, if not a lot sooner.

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Super Bowl!

Posted by: Mike4169@aol.com | March 8, 2007 3:31 PM | Report abuse

First and Second?

Thanks for the info. We would not hear this anywhere else.

Posted by: Mike4169@aol.com | March 8, 2007 3:32 PM | Report abuse

So now we have Smooooot and Roooooster

Posted by: Mike4169@aol.com | March 8, 2007 3:33 PM | Report abuse

What???

Posted by: Alexander | March 8, 2007 3:34 PM | Report abuse

third.

I remember this guy. He's slow, right? Foot speed, I mean. He's obviously quick enough to go to Princeton.

Posted by: evan | March 8, 2007 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Tucker probably signed for the minimum and may prove to be little more than training camp fodder. I could see us still signing Wade and Matilda.

Posted by: Skinfanman | March 8, 2007 3:37 PM | Report abuse

does anyone else remember what happened last time we tried to fill the O-line problem...we traded sage rosenfelds for that scrub lineman loverne or how ever you spell it. This better not be the guy who they want to fill docks spot, if anything he sounds like a guy who is going to get cut later on.

Posted by: Rich | March 8, 2007 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Chemistry plays such a key role in an offensive line, and you have to start building that chemistry during training camp... so we can't start bringing in a bunch of hurtings and have them compete against eachother throughout the pre-season. Gotta sign an average but proven comodity and name him the starter in mini camp... unless we can draft Grubbs in April.

Posted by: Diesel | March 8, 2007 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Why would we sign a guy even for depth that wasnt even in the NFL last season. Look this guy is like L. Davis....If the Browns or the Cardinals don't want you, then it's obvious you arent that good...I was asked on the previous blog how much I weighed and if I wanted to play guard...lol..Im sure I have just as much chance as this guys does...Ok, maybe not...Im only 5'9" 210lbs.

Posted by: Skinsand8fan | March 8, 2007 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Dudes who celebrate being the first poster remind me of middle school when yearbooks came out.

FIRST TO SIGN YOUR CRACK.

I signed that in the guestbook at my buddy's wedding. Wifey was not pleased.

Posted by: etrod | March 8, 2007 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Didn't they make a movie about this guy? "Ross Tucker Must Die". Easily the dumbest movie I've ever seen. Okay, maybe not as dumb as all three Star Wars prequels or Superman IV: The Quest for Peace. But close.

Posted by: P Diddy | March 8, 2007 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Looks like Eric Johnson (SF TE replaced by Vernon Davis) slipped away. That one hurts b/c it counts as the only 'incorrect' on Jason's Crystal Ball predictions of a couple weeks ago.

Ross Tucker. Didn't play last year. Good thing he got locked in early, before other teams realized he was still unsigned, just to remind ourselves that cap space is necessary for vet mins too.

I understand that the Skins are now hovering around $9M in cap space, but don't they need to save some of that to sign draftees? Another reason to trade down from #6.

Jason, any updates on FA travel plans to the Park, esp. Mulitalo? What about Macklin?

Posted by: dcsween | March 8, 2007 3:54 PM | Report abuse

sooo, how many of y'all out there have someone from your alma mater on this here Skins team?

I'm super fired-up because I know Tucker is super-conscientious (Coach Gibbs describing SOMEONE - a football player, surprisingly - last year): I now have 1.

Woohoo.

Posted by: stevie in ct | March 8, 2007 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Diddy, I'd put it somewhere between Ghost Dad and Leonard Part 6.

Posted by: etrod | March 8, 2007 3:55 PM | Report abuse

The Star Wars prequels are the worst things ever...maybe first viewing their is some thrill.....repeated viewings are luke warm death......


Hayden Christiansen: worst actor of modern generation, makes mark hammell look like peter o'toole

Posted by: chris Larry | March 8, 2007 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Thanks........I had been dying for a little Star Wars irrelevant information. My day is now complete.

Posted by: drbatch | March 8, 2007 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Just to be clear, that line about about locking up Ross Tucker early ... that was sarcasm. Seems like a crack in the newly formed rationality in the Skins FO.

Skinsand8fan, 5'9" and 210 pounds ... can you kick?

Posted by: dcsween | March 8, 2007 3:57 PM | Report abuse

So, my best friend is marrying a former sorority chick. She's VERY fun and VERY cool and VERY smart. Her sorority sisters: not so much. Evil, all of them.

Anyway, the sisters decided to host a little shindig for them. Now, all these sisters are married or engaged to your classic Annoying White Guy (investment bankers, lawyers, that sort of thing).

Being the unabashed schmoozer that I am, I put aside my differences and start chatting. The first thing they ask me is what school I went to ("four time college dropout"). What I do ("cereal killer"). And to top off the gaucheness of the whole affair, they ask me what I invest in ("Raisin Bran and Metamucil").

About five minutes into this debacle, I knew I was going to have to get extraordinarily drunk. I called my assistant to come fetch the car, and I hunkered down with my other buddy and my best friend's brother and sister-in-law. I did the Tour de Mexico ("how many tequilas do you have? Twelve? I'll take a shot of each."), they did their respective tours of Kentucky, Scotland, and Russia. We then switched to Dom Perignon ("a bottle each, please.")

We soon confiscated the guest book. On each page we wrote a different sexual position and our tips for success.

Needless to say, the sisters were not pleased. My best friend and his bride-to-be? To this day, they're happy with our advice.

The wedding is this September.

Posted by: P Diddy | March 8, 2007 4:02 PM | Report abuse

stevie in ct- Bringing the Ivy League onto RI. I suddenly feel dumber

Posted by: 4-12 | March 8, 2007 4:02 PM | Report abuse

I still feel bad for David Prowse...Did all the acting for Darth Vader in the original Star Wars, then went to see the movie when it came out with his family and friends only to realize his voice had been dubbed-over by James Earl Jones...I guess he got over since he came back for "Empire" and "Jedi".

Posted by: duck | March 8, 2007 4:04 PM | Report abuse

P Diddy your like a psuedo cultured ruffinan nice guy bad boy leaving behind a stream of broken hearts and engaging powerpoints while updating enteries on citysearch...

Only one question remains...when does the book deal start?

Posted by: chris Larry | March 8, 2007 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Do you feel that? A disturbance in The Force. A sudden urge to get highly intoxicated.

Posted by: P Diddy | March 8, 2007 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Might be a stupid question, but why can't we try plugging in our long snapper Etan Albright and see how he does at guard. I mean it seems like a waste that we pay this guy just to snap a ball. That might be an easier job than being a kicker.

Posted by: Denesh | March 8, 2007 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Best line:

"I called my assistant to come fetch the car"

Your like Bruce Wayne on bender...."Hey try delt you wanna see my utility belt......Jeeves fetch the whizinator?!"

Posted by: chris Larry | March 8, 2007 4:07 PM | Report abuse

I think the intellectual level of my posts gives the lie to that, 4-12.

Go Tigers! (and not the "Geaux" kind, either - though one of them mighta been better at LG. Sorry, Ross.)

Posted by: stevie in ct | March 8, 2007 4:07 PM | Report abuse

The red snapper is worth his weight in gold. He has no business doing anything other than long snapping, and all of his teammates should be making sure that he is comfortable at least every ten minutes.

Do you not remember, God rest his soul, Dan Turk?!

Posted by: drbatch | March 8, 2007 4:09 PM | Report abuse

>>> "when does the book deal start?"

Stellar question, old chap!

I spent the day doing research. Now, since this next book is about homeless folks, my research consists mainly of riding the bus around town.

Now, the general plot and all my characters are all well and good. And I really love the tone and direction the book is taking. But what I'm missing (and what is KILLING me) is a distinct lack of compelling dialogue and voice for my two main characters. Thus, spending time on the bus trying to discern speech patterns and cadence. Kind of fun, but let's just say that riding public transport without an iPod is a form of torture that is outlawed by the Geneva Conventions.

Posted by: P Diddy | March 8, 2007 4:10 PM | Report abuse

I think the intellectual level of my posts gives the lie to that, 4-12.

Posted by: stevie in ct | March 8, 2007 04:07 PM

LMAO.
As long as my boy Dave Zastudil keeps punting, my school will be represented.

Posted by: 4-12 | March 8, 2007 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Funny you bring up Bruce Wayne. While there's no doubt in my mind that Superman is my favorite superhero and the one superhero whose powers I would take in a heartbeat, Bruce Wayne is the ultimate secret identity.

Posted by: P Diddy | March 8, 2007 4:18 PM | Report abuse

P Diddy, that was offensive. I am and investing lawyer writing from my first yacht. I also went to Hale (Harvard and Yale). SO you can got to hell.

Question, did those foul harpies ever break out their sorotity songs? Everytime my X and her band of 'cannot wait to be married and spend daddy's trust fund on a wedding because I haven't had a party for me since my debutant ball' sisters got together, they would howl these mind boggling songs and think it was the greatest thing.

There are 2 things in this world I know a lot about. 1 of them is Star Wars. Inside the suit, Prowse delivered a completely different line to Luke in the climactic scene in the Cloud City on bespin. Only a handful of people knew the real line. James Earl Jones almost fainted when he read the copy.

I love this blog.

Posted by: ArtMonkToTheSticks | March 8, 2007 4:21 PM | Report abuse

How did they get that bat light to work? Was it always cloudy in Gotham City

Posted by: Anonymous | March 8, 2007 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Who was the best Bruce Wayne. Adam West, Michael Keaton, Val Kilmer, Geroge Clooney or Christian Bale? I'd say keaton, cause he could have had Michelle Pfifer and Kim Bassinger.

Posted by: Denesh | March 8, 2007 4:22 PM | Report abuse

was the original line, "Luke, my light saber is bigger than your light saber"?

Posted by: kiper stinx | March 8, 2007 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Dammit, AMTTS, I'll bite.

What'd Prowse say?

Posted by: stevie in ct | March 8, 2007 4:24 PM | Report abuse

4-12/LH - I had something to admit to that I should have disclosed when defending Howard and his career. I have been an avid Michigan fan since 1989. I support any and all Michigan Football/Basketball/Wrestling/Hockey players throughout their career.

So, me defending the Howard pick-up is essentially the same as Gibbs always defending Brunell. I will never throw a Michigan player under the bus. There you have it.........

Posted by: 4th Floor | March 8, 2007 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Diddy, did you make it through to the end of Kill Bill, volume 2 for the discussion of Superman versus Batman/Spiderman? Interesting proposition about which personality is changing into which.

Good thing about Ross Tucker getting that paperwork from Yale, because he doesn't really look the part. From the photos on the redskins.com and nfl.com websites, he evokes Randy from My Name is Earl.

All my team brought to the Skins was T.J. (about to leave) and Lemar (about to become "depth" at LB). Now if the Skins could land Robaire Smith ...

Posted by: dcsween | March 8, 2007 4:25 PM | Report abuse

AMTTS, I'll take the other bite ... what is the other thing in the world you know alot about?

Posted by: dcsween | March 8, 2007 4:27 PM | Report abuse

F 4th. lol

Posted by: 4-12 | March 8, 2007 4:27 PM | Report abuse

I knew there had to be a reason you wouldn't say anything bad about that bust of a draft pick.

Posted by: 4-12 | March 8, 2007 4:28 PM | Report abuse

AMTTS, sorry if I offended you. Not nearly as offensive as (as you SO CORRECTLY pointed out) those damn sorority songs. There are an insufficient number of curse words to accurately describe my feelings about those infernal things.

Now, most importantly: What did Prowse say?

Oh, and I slept through Kill Bill Part 2. Now I'm going to have to Netflix it for that part.

Posted by: P Diddy | March 8, 2007 4:30 PM | Report abuse

I know, I felt guilty in a sense. I was gonna say something yesterday, but by the time I was finished my work I jetted out of here.

I had to tell you to gain back my respect for myself, I feel real dorky now......

Posted by: 4th | March 8, 2007 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Just wanted to drop a note of thanks to everyone for helping me waste another day by blogging my guts out.

Posted by: P Diddy | March 8, 2007 4:33 PM | Report abuse

1) That is just an expression. Star Wars is the only thing I really know about.

2) Prowse delivered the lines (with great passion I might add): 'Obi-Wan murdered your father'. Moments before the scene was shot, Mark Hamil was taken aside and told the truth he was also told to ignore what Prowse was saying.

3) Terps down 2 with 50 seconds left

Posted by: ArtMonkToTheSticks | March 8, 2007 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Stevie: I know you will enjoy my Quakers next week at the Big Dance. You guys were so bad this year I couldn't even muster any animosity towards you. Maybe next year.

Posted by: Mad Dog | March 8, 2007 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Diddy, I'm pretty sure AMTTS took no offence because he was kidding. Last time I checked (about two weeks ago), not enough water for a yacht in Glover Park - pretty sure AMTTS said he and the Guv lived in them there environs.

Posted by: stevie in ct/gp | March 8, 2007 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Diddy, I know some folks on the hill...you say the word and we can get an ammendment to the constitution started...

Posted by: ArtMonkToTheSticks | March 8, 2007 4:36 PM | Report abuse

P Diddy, save the effort.

[SPOILER ALERT]

At the end of Kill Bill v.2, Bill starts going off on how superheroes have alter egos, e.g., Bruce Wayne wakes up in the morning and becomes Batman at night, Peter Parker wakes up in the morning and becomes Spiderman at night ... but SUPERMAN is Superman when he wakes up in the morning ... that his cape is made out of the blanket he was wearing when the Kents found him ... that his alter ego is Clark Kent, a nervous loser who the real Superman thinks all Americans are ... blah, blah, blah, his point is that the Bride doesn't have it in her to be a mother b/c she wakes up a killer.

When Sean Taylor wakes up in the morning ...

Posted by: dcsween | March 8, 2007 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Oh, another AWG (Annoying White Guy) story. When I lived in SF, I would sometimes job from my house (in the Mission) up to the Marina (where all the AWGs and their sub-segment, the AVC, Annoying Venture Capitalist, live).

Anyway, I'm kind of not into the whole AWG sub-culture, so I'm perplexed as to what all these "HBS" sweatshirts are all about. So, I ask this dude. And he looks at me like I'm from Mars and says, "Harvard Business School".

Thus was born my irrational hatred of MBAs.

Posted by: P Diddy | March 8, 2007 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Stevie, thanks for looking out. Diddy knows it's jokes.

(Insert clip of Dave Chapelle doing an 8 mile parody)

"Jokes and Jokes and jokes...spaghetti spaghetti..."

Posted by: ArtMonkToTheSticks | March 8, 2007 4:39 PM | Report abuse

why r the terps such horesh!t

Posted by: defend this wilbon | March 8, 2007 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Is there a more worthless post graduate degree than an MBA??

Oh yeah mine..."Museum Educations".....hahaha boo hoo hoo

Posted by: CHRis larry | March 8, 2007 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Weird. I think Tarantino stole that from an essay I wrote in 9th grade. I kid you not. That F!-er. He always steal my sh!t.

Posted by: P Diddy | March 8, 2007 4:40 PM | Report abuse

P Diddy - don't forget RAIABGHQYGO. You accomplished that too.

(Riding-around-in-a-bus-getting-homeless-quotes-your-guts-out.)

And Mad Dog, I'd say something about "SAFETY SCHOOL!" except in applying to law school this month I didn't even attempt a reach towards Penn. And our b-ball team was sickening this year.

Sorry - enough school rivalry crap for me. (Still got Ross Tucker, though.)

Posted by: stevie in ct | March 8, 2007 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Terps down by 3 14sec left.

Posted by: skinswest | March 8, 2007 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Game ova..

Posted by: 4th | March 8, 2007 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Ah, hell, I've been talking trash about the Terps all day. Payback is going to be bad today.

Posted by: P Diddy | March 8, 2007 4:45 PM | Report abuse

"Safety School" got me thinking about being a "Safety Patrol". I think there's fodder in there for a book.

Do they still have safety patrols?

Posted by: P Diddy | March 8, 2007 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Terps lost? Someone get the kerosene, I'll bring the matches, and we'll meet at Roomstore to burn some couches. Burn baby burn!

Posted by: Denesh | March 8, 2007 4:47 PM | Report abuse

My son watched the game. He said MD should not be in the tournament and Gary Williams should be fired. Oh the impetuousness of youth.

Posted by: Mad Dog | March 8, 2007 4:49 PM | Report abuse

MD down in RD 1...ouch...

Still will be a 8th seed prolly....


Posted by: chris larry | March 8, 2007 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Couldn't remember Ross Tucker from the '01 team, but sure enough, he's on the roster. As is some guy named "Central McClellion". Sounds like a college.

http://www.jt-sw.com/football/pro/rosters.nsf/Annual/2001-was

Posted by: 4-12 | March 8, 2007 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Strange. I'm sitting in a Starbucks next to Creepy McGhee, and he said the same exact thing about the Terps.

Posted by: P Diddy | March 8, 2007 4:49 PM | Report abuse

10 minutes of silence? I'm scared.

Posted by: Denesh | March 8, 2007 4:59 PM | Report abuse

8th seed? No way. I think they are locked in as a five seed.

Posted by: Chris | March 8, 2007 5:00 PM | Report abuse

As long as Duke gets bounced early, I'm all for whoever wins whatever in the Tournament.

Posted by: P Diddy | March 8, 2007 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Denesh - It always happens around this time. I guess peeps must be on a govament schedule or something. I ain't gone til 5:30 at the earliest.....

Posted by: 4th | March 8, 2007 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Denesh, its cool. Nothing really happening today, hence the digressions into superheroes and basketball. As someone who has been mono -tasking (here) for big chucks of the day today (what was that question about shame from yesterday?), I can tell you there is no need for concern.

I can report, however, that as of 5pm Eastern, NEITHER Adam Schefter at nfl.com nor the Rumor Mill at pft.com has picked up on the Skins earthquaking move to sign Ross Tucker. Seems like the crafty Skins snuck that signing by everyone in the league and the media.

Posted by: dcsween | March 8, 2007 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Whew! For a minute there I thought I was in 28 days later.

Posted by: Denesh | March 8, 2007 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Is it wrong if the smell of my Digiorno garlic bread pizza remind me of beer dumps?

Posted by: Denesh | March 8, 2007 5:09 PM | Report abuse

They're making a sequel to "28 Days Later" (not to be confused with the seminal Sandra Bullock film, "28 Days"...a cinematic tour de force along the lines of the aforementioned "Leonard Part 6" and "Howard the Duck").

No word on it, but it's probably lame.

They're also making a sequel to "The Hills Have Eyes" (itself a remake). I have fond memories of taking a friend on a road trip with me, watching "Hills" on hotel TV, and having to "comfort" her during the scary parts. Best Roadtrip Ever.

My latest beer experiment is shotgunning Schlitz. Having skipped out on the whole "drinking in college" thing (because I mostly skipped out on the whole college thing), I'm really getting into these fun little beer games. Shotgunning has me entirely enthralled. At 30-something, I feel like it's my big middle finger to the whole married-with-kids thing.

Posted by: P Diddy | March 8, 2007 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of superheroes...if Green Lantern wanted to kill Superman, couldn't he just create a giant kryptonite dagger?

Posted by: P Diddy | March 8, 2007 5:19 PM | Report abuse

I've shotgunned beer from cans, but how do you shotgun from a 40? or you talking about the 24 oz. cans? Favorite game Beer Pong or Quarters?

Posted by: Denesh | March 8, 2007 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Funny Diddy. I gave the big middle finger to Mrs. 4-12 the other night. Needless to say, I probably won't get to "comfort" her until 28 days later.

Posted by: 4-12 | March 8, 2007 5:20 PM | Report abuse

P Diddy's To Do List:

1. master quaters
2. Find good Beer Pong partner
3. Master speed quarters
4. Lear Presidents and Azzhole
5. Go to Home depot for funnell and tubing

Posted by: chris larry | March 8, 2007 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Adam West was the best Batman. A rich guy, superhero with a paunch. Occassionally gets his tail kicked but has cool shti. You can't beat that.

Posted by: LH | March 8, 2007 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Denesh, Diddy's probably referring to Schlitz beer rather than Schlitz Malt Liquor.

Posted by: LH | March 8, 2007 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Ohhh. My bad. Thats how I roll.

Posted by: Denesh | March 8, 2007 5:26 PM | Report abuse

P Diddy, I think the sequel is called "28 Days After That."

In other news, Shehawks cut Grant Wistrom, a pretty good DE due to earn huge bucks, but replaced by Patrick Kearney. Another guy available to fill a need who the Skins probably can't (won't) afford.

Posted by: dcsween | March 8, 2007 5:29 PM | Report abuse

From off top of my head...Isn't he too light?

I think we need a younger DE in the Daniels mode. Thought?

Posted by: 4th | March 8, 2007 5:33 PM | Report abuse

You know someone should really throw a RI party. With an Edward 40-hands competition. Winner gets an autographed J-Lac picture and a pack of Chasers.

Posted by: Denesh | March 8, 2007 5:40 PM | Report abuse

He's listed at 6'4" 272lbs.

Posted by: skinswest | March 8, 2007 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Isn't Wistrom in his 30s?

Posted by: 4-12 | March 8, 2007 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Wait. I forgot about this internets thing. I'll do the googles...

Posted by: 4-12 | March 8, 2007 5:48 PM | Report abuse

4th, Wistrom is lighter (and shorter) than Daniels, but put up better numbers than Phil (including in 2005). Wistrom is somewhere between the weights and heights of Gaines Adams and Jamaal Anderson. When I was trying to learn about Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila (Packers interested in Betts), I found a Packers site that distinguished between positions called the "Power" and "Tiger" DEs (GB also runs a base 4-3). I have no idea what those mean, and tend to favor Carriker over Adams or Anderson, but only b/c he is bigger than either, based on my same intuition that Carter needs to be balanced by another end who is less the "pass rusher" and more the "run stopper" (but obviously capable of both). Same question. Thought?

Posted by: dcsween | March 8, 2007 5:48 PM | Report abuse

Yeah He's tall and skinny. He wouldn't work. I remember he was getting RUNNED over his 1st year in Seatle, which was just 2/3 years ago. He wasn't all that in St. Louis ether. Let's skip over him for now........

Posted by: 4th | March 8, 2007 5:49 PM | Report abuse

He'll be 31 before the season starts. I'll pass. But this internets in the computer thing has some potential.

Posted by: 4-12 | March 8, 2007 5:49 PM | Report abuse

sooo, how many of y'all out there have someone from your alma mater on this here Skins team?

Posted by: stevie in ct | March 8, 2007 03:55 PM

The last person from my alma mater I can remember being a skin was Tre' Johnson. Then again Temple is the worst Div-1 school out there.

Posted by: 35332 | March 8, 2007 5:51 PM | Report abuse

Temple has a football team? And they're Div. I? I've seen it all now, I feel the big one coming, hold on Elizabeth here I come!

Posted by: Denesh | March 8, 2007 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Does it include High Schools?

Springbrook - Alma MAter of

Shawn Springs
P Diddy
4th Floor
Lonnie Baxter (attended during my time but didn't graduate)
And Jockey Nick Folgelsonger (CSN did a special on him a week ago or so. We played on the same Footbal team)

Posted by: 4th | March 8, 2007 5:55 PM | Report abuse

And that freshman fast WR dude from MD - Bey(sp?)

Posted by: 4th | March 8, 2007 5:56 PM | Report abuse

Ok 4th- I'll take the bait... You played on a football team with a guy who became a jockey? Midget league? Pee-wee league?

Posted by: 4-12 | March 8, 2007 5:58 PM | Report abuse

4th, don't forget Bram Weinstein (I'm pretty sure he didn't ... and probably added his name to this wiki site).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springbrook_High_School

Posted by: dcsween | March 8, 2007 6:00 PM | Report abuse

I think the only player from my alma mater to play for the Skins was Gary Clark (James Madison)
But the Skins should take a chance on JMU DE Akeem Jordan in the draft... I think he was D-IAA Defensive Player of the Year.

Posted by: Diesel | March 8, 2007 6:01 PM | Report abuse

It's curious that the Seahawks would replace him with Kearney who's the same age (1yr less in the NFL), and injury prone last two(?) years. Maybe he'd be worth signing if he's healthy.

Posted by: skinswest | March 8, 2007 6:03 PM | Report abuse

err, healthy and cheap

Posted by: skinswest | March 8, 2007 6:05 PM | Report abuse

How could I forget Bram?? Easily, that's how.

4-12: I played with Fogelsonger @ Springbrook, but I have been playing organized Football since the age of 9 (No father in the house so Moms kept me busy). I was never great, just a quality starter :-)

Posted by: 4th | March 8, 2007 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Wow. Thanks! I forgot about the Barbershop dude. And I never knew about Lewis Black and Esherick....

Posted by: 4th | March 8, 2007 6:08 PM | Report abuse

skinswest, maybe the idea behind Kearney was to essentially replace Wistrom for less money. The rap on Wistrom was that his contract was way more that it was worth as of the time it was signed (along the lines of last year's Skins signings at WR and SS). I haven't looked at the terms of Kearney's deal (much less the actual numbers of Wistrom's).

Posted by: dcsween | March 8, 2007 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Wow, the high school memories are killing me here.

Posted by: P Diddy | March 8, 2007 6:10 PM | Report abuse

4th- I was just yanking your chain. Figured a jockey weighs as much as one of jm220s calf muscles...hard to think of them as football players.

Posted by: 4-12 | March 8, 2007 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Alma Mater? I thought this the University of Miami Redskins? Well Lavar Arrington was the last player I can recall from my alma mater to play for the skins. I'm sure somebody can point out another Penn Stater, but I would still like to see the skins draft Levi Brown. He's a special player. Paul Posluszny is not to shabby either, but we are good at linebacker. Levi Brown would take our offensive line to the next level.

Does Ross Tucker even deserve a press conference? The guy got cut by the Browns!

Posted by: Max | March 8, 2007 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Michael Ealy (who was Michael Brown in high school) also dated Halle Berry. There are some other Blue Devils in Hollywood in production and crew roles. Not quite the USC mafia, but whatever...

Posted by: P Diddy | March 8, 2007 6:11 PM | Report abuse

I hear Simeon Rice wants to be a skin. Lets sign him!!

Posted by: Jim | March 8, 2007 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Yes Diesel! Jordan could probably get picked up after the draft though... I agree, they should take a chance on him. Maybe send him to NFL Europa for a year.

and I never knew good ol' Scott "Wide Right" Norwood was a Duke?? Yeah us!

Posted by: Dorf | March 8, 2007 6:15 PM | Report abuse

GEICO cavemen got greenlit for a pilot, according to Variety and the WashPo. Yay!

Posted by: P Diddy | March 8, 2007 6:17 PM | Report abuse

Wikipedia is cool. It wasn't just Springbrook HS there. Seems like every HS in the United States is in there. Mine was too. The site has entries for almost everyone (including SHABINGUS!). It does not, however, have an entry for "poop shame" or "Kabeer Gbama-Biamila" ... and it inserts an extra back slash, so it frustrates creation of hyperlinks.

Posted by: dcsween | March 8, 2007 6:17 PM | Report abuse

I think we should turn Anthony Montgomery 6'5 312 into a guard.

Posted by: Max | March 8, 2007 6:17 PM | Report abuse

I'm gay and need to tell someone! How should I do it? Please help me.

Posted by: Ernesto | March 8, 2007 6:20 PM | Report abuse

I like the brownstar :)

Posted by: Ernesto | March 8, 2007 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Picking up the Brown's trash is sure to put us on a fast track to the superbowl.

Posted by: Max | March 8, 2007 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Sadly I'm going to be MIA a lot in the next week as we are getting accredited which means lots of meetings and meetings and meetings. . . .

Skinsand8 - just wanted to add my thoughts, thanks and good mojo. You do something that a lot of us may not be willing to do and so we are in your debt. Keep safe.

I'm am perplexed by the o-line stuff which seems and indication that the draft focus is going to be very heavily defense.

Oh BTW all my kids who are Niners fans think they're headed to the SB next year and that Clements is worth every penny . . . maybe they're right but boy does it sound all to familiar . . . poor schmucks. Don't think Alex Smith is that good.

Oh question to the peeploggers - how far in mileage is FedEx from DC? I ask because the Niners are angling to build a new stadium in Santa Clara which is about 45 miles south of SF which I think disqualifies them from being the San Francisco 49ers. But I don't want to start making that jackass comment until I know what my teams miles are.

Posted by: sfskin | March 8, 2007 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps San Francisco would like to dump some more of their garbage to the skins.

Posted by: Max | March 8, 2007 6:26 PM | Report abuse

max,he got cut from the browns a year ago,he didnt play last season!

Posted by: Anonymous | March 8, 2007 6:26 PM | Report abuse

dcsween - makes sense. I saw Wistrom's salary on fox.com (2mil and change) but that's not the same as cap # I guess.

I'd try and think of terp alums on the skins but after today's performance at the ACC tourney I'm disavowing by alumni standing (until next week anyway).

Oh hell, Neil Olkewicz (sp?)

Posted by: skinswest | March 8, 2007 6:29 PM | Report abuse

sfskin- It's no more than 5-6 miles from RFK

Posted by: 4-12 | March 8, 2007 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Yes, I know he got cut from the Browns, that's why I would call him Brown's garbage.

Posted by: Max | March 8, 2007 6:29 PM | Report abuse

JLC - How do the coaches feel about the development of some OL guys we drafted int the past (e.g., Jim Molinaro)? Do they think he's ready for a starting job yet?

Posted by: Max | March 8, 2007 6:32 PM | Report abuse

Temple may be a garbage college football team but you got 2 alums that got a ring with the Colts this year in Raheem Brock and Dan Klecko.

Posted by: cdubb | March 8, 2007 6:32 PM | Report abuse

Tucker? I hardly know her.

Posted by: kiper stinx | March 8, 2007 6:46 PM | Report abuse

Wow- Springbrook High's list is fairly impressive. Some of the actual DC schools have got to have pretty good lineups - anyone? All my little NoVA school has got is former Chief's kicker (and gentleman caller on a P Diddy level) Nick "The D$^k" Lowery.

Posted by: stevie in ct | March 8, 2007 6:50 PM | Report abuse

With all the draft prospects having their personnel workouts now, have there been any info on which ones the Skins have paid close attention to?

Posted by: skinswest | March 8, 2007 6:57 PM | Report abuse

sfskin,

I guess they could be the SF 49ers of Santa Clara - like the LA Angels of Anaheim.

Question: This morning the man I love to hate Steve Czaban made the statement that if Brady Quinn is available at number 6 we should pick him. Personally, I thought it was an idiotic statement (of course, I think most everything he says is idiotic).

Czaban said he would be a good insurance policy and that we should take the best player available. I think it would send a horrible message to Campbell - and the rest of the team - especially when we have so many other needs (Defense, O line). What do you guys/gals think?

Posted by: Lisa | March 8, 2007 7:01 PM | Report abuse

In the old days, "best player available" worked. In the win-now NFL, you pick whoever will make an impact and get you to the playoffs.

Just my opinion...

Posted by: P Diddy | March 8, 2007 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Max, your missing the point, we all know he got cut from browns,Its he got cut before season & didnt play at all last year!

Posted by: steve | March 8, 2007 7:12 PM | Report abuse

He worked at a KFC that kept him in shape,I here he had to ask for a wks vacation to come see Gibbs?

Posted by: Anonymous | March 8, 2007 7:14 PM | Report abuse

Santa Clara is too far away to be called San Francisco. Here are some possible alternatives -

The Los Gatos Wildcats (it's kinda in the neighborhood)

The San Jose 79ers (Screw the Gold Rush; Silicon Valley rules)

The Lower Bay Brawlers (as opposed to the Upper Bay Brawlers known as the Raiders, except that they might want this name too for when they move to Fremont or wherever)

The Santa Clara Transformers (Fox Sports would love that)

The Bay Area Roaring Tigers would be my choice. After all, there can never be too many BARTs.

Posted by: Boxer | March 8, 2007 7:29 PM | Report abuse

Czaban is an idiot. Taking Quinn is about the only thing the Redskins won't do. But if they should pick him and trade him (pre-arranged, like Manning and Rivers a few years ago), then Czaban can jump up and down and proclaim that he has the only direct line to the Redskins brain(?)trust.

My first and best advice regarding Czaban - ITA.

Posted by: The Mole | March 8, 2007 7:33 PM | Report abuse

Nice game terps. Hope all the Wha Wha Duke is overrated stops.

Posted by: Anonymous | March 8, 2007 7:36 PM | Report abuse

sfskin,

the proper question is, how LONG does it take you to get to fedex from dc.... ;-)

cuz if you try to do that at the wrong time, it sure can feel like 45 miles.

Posted by: hmmmmm | March 8, 2007 7:43 PM | Report abuse

This goes back to the previous post, but I didn't get in that in time and I don't think anybody else is over there now, anyway.

How would you rank Sean Taylor at OL? Out of 66 I think I would have to give him 15,000, yeah that about right. If we put him on the OL the defense would part like the Red Sea did for Moses!

Posted by: gethanr13 | March 8, 2007 7:50 PM | Report abuse

fellow terrapins, this loss is exactly what the doctor ordered. quick exit from a tournament before THE tournament. stage is set for deep NCAA tourny run!

they were essentially playing a road game against a team that had beaten them at home. no worries.

and yes, either a 4th and no lower than a 5th seed.

Posted by: dealer | March 8, 2007 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Boxer - didn't know we had a senator in the house : ) Like your name suggestions. I agree if the yahoos (intentional) move no way can they be San Francisco 49ers which means all those peeps with sweatshirts, decals etc. will have to "upgrade". . . gawd I kill me with tech double intendreeeees .. . how about the Milpitas Mallrats?

Lisa - yeah they could pull the Angels thing but it being the Bay Area someone is bound to hold a protest in a tree.

Although the SI issue this week indicates that the newly planned park, the old park and the baseball park are all gonna be underwater thanks to global warming, in 100 years. . . wonder what season ticket holders will do.

Posted by: sfskin | March 8, 2007 8:14 PM | Report abuse

No, not the 5 seed. That is the most likely higher seed to get upset in the dance.

Posted by: The Turtle is Scared | March 8, 2007 8:15 PM | Report abuse

I've never listened to Czaban but based on this blog he sounds like a colossal idiot and this Quinn comment just confirms it.

Why on the earth that is green would we draft a QB with all the other pressing needs? Plus I said it some days ago but I think Quinn is possible the next Rick Meier.

What's the word on Smith out of Ohio - is he really being nixed because he is only 6' or is it the curse of the Heisman?

Posted by: sfskin | March 8, 2007 8:17 PM | Report abuse

sfskin - think Troy Smith is getting looked over because of his performance in the champ game and then showing up to the combine out of shape along with the height issue. Sounds like both him and Leak are hoping to go toward the end of the 1st day, most likely 3rd or 4th rounders.

Posted by: cdubb | March 8, 2007 8:23 PM | Report abuse

cdubb - hadn't heard that about him at the combine even though I watched several hours coverage. . . that's dumb. Is he having a pro-day?

I've never been sold on judging someone on one game but that's maybe cause I've had some stinkers too many times.

Posted by: sfskin | March 8, 2007 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Steve Czaban is a self-promoting hack who lives to scrutinize the Redskins. The Redskins have made some dumb moves in the past, but for Czaban to actually part his lips to say they should draft a quarterback is ridiculous. I guess he hopes they actually do so he can rip them and get more air time

Long live Triple X radio.

By the way, why are we all in an uproar...they picked up some depth.

Posted by: sicwidit | March 8, 2007 9:05 PM | Report abuse

duke lost. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Posted by: dealer | March 8, 2007 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Creepy news! I got an email from Redskin Insider. No not this one. Apparently redskins.com which send shti to me often now is calling itself Redskin Insider. Can this be true? Have I missed it all this time? Did they blatantly 'steal' the name? Do they know that I'm addicted to Jason LaC's blog and the only way I would open up the peice of junk was to pur Redskins Insider on it? Insidious!

Posted by: bangkokben | March 8, 2007 9:27 PM | Report abuse

We are apart of the RedskinS Insider

cleary, Redskin Insider is something totally different.

Posted by: Anonymous | March 8, 2007 9:32 PM | Report abuse

sfskin - yeah Troy Smith will have a pro day at Ohio State, not really sure when though. He didn't do all of the stuff at the combine and the reviews were he was out of shape from being on the banquet tour that comes with winning the Heisman. Probably shouldn't get judged on that 1 game but since it was the last one he played it sticks in peoples minds.

Posted by: cdubb | March 8, 2007 9:44 PM | Report abuse

******* Ravens fans are in full voice about their McGahee trade. How do they get this guy for two #3's and a #7? That is chump change for McGahee. What do the Ravens have, a GM or something? (That's General Manager JM220, sometimes I talk about more than just booze.)

Posted by: SMACK | March 8, 2007 9:56 PM | Report abuse

SMACK, I dunno ... but I think the post-CBA salary re-calibration of salaries is not looking so good for RBs more than 5 years out. Thomas Jones to the Jets for a second round pick? Nearly as insane as the McGahee deal. On the other hand, I had never seen until this past week the film of the hit that McGahee took on his knee in college. I had thought the Theisman hit was the worst I'd seen till then.

Posted by: dcsween | March 8, 2007 10:50 PM | Report abuse

sween, i saw it live. i couldn't believe my eyes. i didn't know that could happen to a person's body on FF. miami was going to win if that hadn't happen.

Posted by: dealer | March 8, 2007 10:54 PM | Report abuse

The McGahee hit is on youtube.com. Fiesta Bowl. Ohio State v. the U. Nastiest injury ever seen, not for the squeamish, much less the GM looking to sign the guy 5 years later.

Posted by: dcsween | March 8, 2007 10:55 PM | Report abuse

fellow terrapins, this loss is exactly what the doctor ordered. quick exit from a tournament before THE tournament. stage is set for deep NCAA tourny run!
they were essentially playing a road game against a team that had beaten them at home. no worries.

Posted by: dealer | March 8, 2007 08:07 PM

I believe this is the example used for the dictionary definition of spin.

dealer below please find another arrow for your quiver of hate towards BBM.

http://deadspin.com/sports/nfl/peyton-mannings-sweet-16-party-cameo-241661.php?mail2=true

Posted by: LH | March 8, 2007 11:15 PM | Report abuse

Diesel, one more quality JMU player was Charles Haley. And don't forget Scott Norwood and his wide right to lose the Super Bowl in '91.

Posted by: Skinny | March 8, 2007 11:15 PM | Report abuse

I am a huge Skins fan all of my life, and huge Terp fan all of my life.

Let's see what transpired today March 08, 2007?

Terps lose to Miami in first round of ACC.
Skins sign Ross Tucker.

What in the world is going on here folks?

Posted by: Redskin Ray | March 8, 2007 11:37 PM | Report abuse

wow, no love for my boy Tucker. It's called depth: d-e-p-t-h.

(Yeah, I don't really believe it myself - 'cus we don't have enough G/T combo players standing in perfectly white uniforms behind the front row of players on the sidelines.)

Posted by: stevie in ct | March 8, 2007 11:43 PM | Report abuse

After Thiesmann, I'd have to say the Napolean McCallum injury is pretty gross, and the Tim Krumrie one was really nasty. Alan Smith's injury a while back from the EPL was gross too. That one is on youtube, but the others might be too early.

Posted by: SMACK | March 8, 2007 11:54 PM | Report abuse

Och, what time you come on?

Signing the Princeton guy effectively killed the RI blog . . .

Posted by: stevie in ct | March 9, 2007 1:09 AM | Report abuse

Ok, I'm a hundred hours late on this and missed another freakin' great afternoon on the blog, but I wanted to heartily welcome Skinsand8fan.

I'm guessing that 8 = Dale Earnhardt Jr., rather than Brunell or Overchkin or Snelling.

If I'm right, the blog nickname has a double meaning, because Dale Jr. himself is a huge Skins fan.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | March 9, 2007 3:03 AM | Report abuse

The other Washington pro #8 is Roger Mason, Jr., a fellow Cavalier. But again, I'm sticking with Little E as my guess.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | March 9, 2007 3:10 AM | Report abuse


So I get home from my NYC trip and find waiting for me -- in addition to the wife and child and dog -- one of the Shabingus tee shirts from cafepress.com/redskinsinsider (you know, the store where you can get shirts to profess your blog addiction AND make a donation to charity).

Shabingus is as funny on the real shirt as it is up here. Shabingus is just a perfect word for our times. It embodies the zeitgeist of the blog. It am I.

Three shirts sold so far! And new designs on the way from several sources who have actual design skillz to lend to the project. Stay tuned...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | March 9, 2007 3:14 AM | Report abuse

Good to hear you made it home Nate. I got my shirt yesterday.

Posted by: jm220 | March 9, 2007 5:59 AM | Report abuse

Just catching up on what i missed since the wife got home yesterday...

David Prowse was the old guys man-servant in A Clockwork Orange. The only movie I've ever seen him in besides Star Wars. I met him at our movie theater back around '97 when they re-released the Original Trilogy. Pathetic. He kept doing the Vader hand move like he had to prove he was who he said he was. The only more pathetic ex sci-fi character I met was the little guy who played the robot in Lost in Space. All he did was wave his arms in random patterns and expect us to tip him.

Just watched the hit on McGahee on Youtube. Nasty stuff. Worst sports injury I ever saw was 11th grade at our District track meet. This kid was pole vaulting and his leg got stuck in the crack between 2 mats when he landed. SNAP! It happened right in front of me. I still shutter to this day.

Diddy gets the prize for best guest book story. Hilarious.

Posted by: etrod | March 9, 2007 7:19 AM | Report abuse

Clearly, Olindo Mare isn't having much trouble attracting suitors as it's believed that two of Jay Feely's former teams the Giants and Falcons as well as the Browns and Redskins are already interested.

Posted by: Rob | March 9, 2007 9:13 AM | Report abuse

Interesting fact:

Did You Know? Since 2002, the salary cap has risen from $71 million to $109 million.

Posted by: Rob | March 9, 2007 9:15 AM | Report abuse

I hate work.

Somedays my company just doesn't understand I need to be totally focused to blog my guts out and visits and all day meetings with the president of the company is just one huge distraction.

From yesterday Ramsey lacks the one essential quality all good QB'S must have ..quick and accurate decision making.This above all else is the thing that seperates them in the heat of battle,can't be taught.

Virtually all players in the game today are replaceable, especialy WR's ,RB's, outside linebackers,guards even to some degree corner ( depends on what defense you predominatly play.) I think GMs like fans get caught up in the wow we really have to have so and so he is or will be a vital piece of what we are doing here.they end up paying way to much, and don't get much value back in the end. Its really all about assembling as many good players that fit your system, believe in what you are doing, play together.In order to get anywhere you start with only irreplaceable part ..QB. Maybe you guys tune out my blogs because I even recognize I repeat my theme , i do only because i know I'm right and maybe because other than football I don't feel qualified to comment on movies, 24, hero's, religion and other assorted topics of the day (it is amusing reading so please continue.)

Posted by: Old School | March 9, 2007 9:50 AM | Report abuse

Old School - I reject your reality and substitute my own.

Your beloved Gibbs 1.0 Redskins won 3 Superbowls with 3 QB's, none of which were of the 'Franchise' variety.

Sustained greatness can be achieved without a great QB if another unit or player steps up. in the case of our Redskins it was the O-Line, the only constant on those great teams of the 80's.

It can also be done with a great defense as with the Steel Curtain of the 70's (true, they had a franchise qb but the defense won those titles) and the 85-87 Bears, who would have won 3 consecutive championships if not running in to the 1 team that they didn't match up with-- Da skins.

Posted by: etrod | March 9, 2007 10:13 AM | Report abuse

Old School - Perfect example, Ryan Clark. Clark and Taylor were great friends. They also worked well with each other on the field. They trusted one another. However, the Redskins chose to let Clark sign elsewhere and sign Archuleta to a big time deal. I'll stop there because thinking about this is making me sick...

Posted by: Chris | March 9, 2007 10:17 AM | Report abuse

Where is everybody???

Did did someone accidentaly slip 2% milk in to Sean Taylor's Fruity Pebbles?

Posted by: etrod | March 9, 2007 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Waiting for new thread......

Posted by: 4th | March 9, 2007 10:38 AM | Report abuse

We make our own news here.

Posted by: etrod | March 9, 2007 10:43 AM | Report abuse

4th -- was it you or 4-12 that said we couldn't talk about the past anymore, and I countered that we had four months to kill?

So far, the four months are winning.

Posted by: cload and daggar | March 9, 2007 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Sean Taylor vs. the spacetime contiuum.

Discuss

Posted by: etrod | March 9, 2007 10:53 AM | Report abuse

Diddy, the key to Edward 40 hands is to tape your hands towards the top of the 40. If your hands are taped low, the heat will come off of there and make the last 1/3 of the 40 warm and atrocious to drink.

Also, in my humble opinion, the best quarters game available to humans is baseball. Cups of ascending height with the smallest close to you and gradual amounts of expensive, top notch beers (like Miller high Life, Keystone Light, or maybe even PBR). Bounce the quarter for a double, your opponent has to drink the double and the single. Shoot until you miss. So, a guy like me, with gap power and decent wheels, can hit doubles and triples all day. Occasionally, I'll get big and take one yard and make an opponent taste a beer that has sat out for upwards of 25-30 minutes. It's what friends do to each other.

Signing Ross Tucker for line depth is like adding Jerry Falwell to a campaign to appeal to Jewish Liberals.

Posted by: ArtMonkToTheSticks | March 9, 2007 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Gibbs made the point when he came back that the game changes 25% every year, so it was a completely different game he was coming back to.
I think that Gibbs would, with the benefit of the last couple of years, point to the dominance of the QB as one of those changes. In the last ten years, the rules regarding contact have gotten so restrictive that you can afford to pay an elite QB with the expectation that he might last the whole year. It's still a tough game, and injuries still happen, but 20 years ago you had to count on having a second QB coming off the bench -- it was going to happen sooner or later.
While most other positions are replaceable, the players are not interchangeable -- and that is where the coaching churn of the Snyder era has hurt the most; instead of getting a group together to play with each other, it's been "get a new group together, learn a new system, and see how it goes". And that becomes a slippery slope when it doesn't go well -- time to get all new guys next year.

Posted by: cload and daggar | March 9, 2007 10:59 AM | Report abuse

It was me. I have no problem using the past in the proper context. But, not going overboard with it......

Posted by: 4th | March 9, 2007 10:59 AM | Report abuse

etrod- right on about the O-line in the '80s. I'll also throw out there: two impact DEs Mann and Manley, and of course Darrell Green.

Posted by: 4-12 | March 9, 2007 11:02 AM | Report abuse

The past is the past. The future is now.

Posted by: Gert Beef HO | March 9, 2007 11:08 AM | Report abuse

etrod

please.... skins 80's are the exeception to QB rule. the majarity of championship level teams ( especially sustained high level play ) all have the franchise QB. The Gibbs I teams had all of the other elements, lots of good players, great chemistry. I will break it down for you.

Joey T had a decent overall career, but played his best football from 82-85, at that time for that short period he was a franchise QB...he was older and his play really fell off, then off course the career ending injury.

Second bowl reveloving door at QB allyear Jay s and doug williams neither guy really seizing the Job. williams replaces Jay in the first qtr of last game of season, Gets hot stays hot we win again. Potentially he is a franchise type QB although he is again older. same story he gets hurt and is inconsistent and is done.

Ryp is a gibbs creation and not totally a one year wonder but almost. gibbs maximises what he did well (throw the deep ball) and he hit everything that season, behind max protect.

Todays NFL is all about the franchise QB, but its still the ultimate team game. Everything has to fit and so just having a real good QB is not enough. Its the system you use to get6 the most out of what your team does well, its having quality players not necessarily great players, but good players and good depth, then using them correctly.

We have failed to get the QB right which has lead all the instabilty and ultimatly the embarrassing state the franchise has been in.Thats my point you build around the QB, and then find the right good parts. its like you have Champ Baily at both corners but your team is lead by Jake Plummer and not John Elway vs having John Elway and name the corners on the back to back broncos superbowl teams. Get it.

Posted by: Old School | March 9, 2007 11:09 AM | Report abuse

I need Daveb55 to make an appearance soon, I need a laugh today

somethings in the water today at the middle school... crazinesss, even for a friday

whoever made the conspiracy theory about denver getting Bly only because the Lancers wanted him... i'm becoming a believer. Great article Jason, sorta old news to us loyal blog-dorks.

Posted by: Dorf | March 9, 2007 11:15 AM | Report abuse

I guess it was nice having a conversation about Ross Tucker, but could we get back to talking football?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | March 9, 2007 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Old School -

In the 80's we had a revolving door at QB but we won anyway.

Stabilty in your organization is more important than stability at any one postition, even QB.

Posted by: etrod | March 9, 2007 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Nate we may need to get another site for the T-Shirts. As stated earlier my T came last night. I ordered a 2X. It a little tight and they don't sell 3X.

Posted by: jm220 | March 9, 2007 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Before Dorf jump the gun (and he will get a smack to the head today) it should have read "It's a little tight"

Posted by: jm220 | March 9, 2007 11:31 AM | Report abuse

etrod

Again I gotta bring the smack to the back of your dome. We won first (behind a good at the time) QB, I hope I don't have to remind you we the lombardi in year 2. Then because we won, we were able to keep our coach, gm, etc throught the changes in QB's and personell. Hey, its all revisionist history but if Gibbs 0-5 start turns into 3-13 and the next year we stink we might might be Arizona.

Posted by: Old School | March 9, 2007 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Who is making the t-shirts, and to what quantity. We make t-shirts here for some of our events at all sizes.

Posted by: connskins | March 9, 2007 11:34 AM | Report abuse

New Topic needed. Old people fighting about the '80s.....

Posted by: 4th | March 9, 2007 11:35 AM | Report abuse

old school is the ma


Old School is the man!

I would argue that Rypien was a decent QB, for 3-4 years and a great one for 1. After he was gone we had about 10 that were way worse...maybe 15

Worse than Ryp:

Shuler
Ferrotte
Ramsey
Brunell
Tony Banks
George
Rosenfels
Rich Gannon (with us at least)
Wuerfuel
Shane Matthews
Frees
Hoestetler

Similar/maybe a bit better to Ryp:

Brad Johnson
Trent Green (the one that got away...)

Juries out:

Jason Campbell

Posted by: chris larry | March 9, 2007 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Yes, all 3 were good QB's at the time. But all 3 were different QB's. Don't forget Jay Schroeder taking us to the Playoffs in '86 and '87 before being replaced by Doug-E-Fresh.

I'm not saying we didn't have good QB's, I'm saying we didn't have anything close to long-term stability at the position.

Posted by: etrod | March 9, 2007 11:36 AM | Report abuse

2X is too tight? jm, you hittin' the krispy kreme again? lol

Posted by: 4-12 | March 9, 2007 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Sorry 4-12 I don't eat krispy kreme. Not a real junk food eater. And I don't like my shirts to feel tight.

Posted by: jm220 | March 9, 2007 11:39 AM | Report abuse

I saw some story on how much "bad fats" are in krispy kreme. I'm surprised they can even sell that shti as "food"

Posted by: 4-12 | March 9, 2007 11:42 AM | Report abuse

I am old, love the 80's skins and it is an enjoyable convo for me....

Etrod: I think we had stability in 3-5 year bites and all our QBs including Schroeder and Stan Humphries were all better than average QBs. Joet T is a borderline hall of famer and may have strung together a few more seasons without the "Hit"

Doug Williams was a franchise QB with Bucs on a BAAAD team and probably if he hadnt gone to USFL would have a had a longer NFL resume.

Schroeder took a team in each league to Championship game. Although he was embarrassed in both..but still got there.

Humphries resurrected the dormant Chargers, got to a SB and generally had a very decent career.

Rypien played at a good to high level for 4/5 years and from where he started to finished was great.

Posted by: chris larry | March 9, 2007 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Tastes good. Shouldn't eat them but what I would do for a Krispy Kreme donut. Mmmmmm.

Posted by: ba | March 9, 2007 11:45 AM | Report abuse

twizzlers are my junk food of choice and only on the weekends.

Posted by: jm220 | March 9, 2007 11:46 AM | Report abuse

OH MY GOD! JM220 HAS A VICE! MY PLACE IN THE UNIVERSE IS IN SPIRAL!!!!!!!

Posted by: chris larry | March 9, 2007 11:47 AM | Report abuse

LMAO CL you are crazy.

Posted by: jm220 | March 9, 2007 11:48 AM | Report abuse

All that baiting of cL the past week, and all you had to say was "I eat twizzlers" to get him going. Classic!

Posted by: 4-12 | March 9, 2007 11:50 AM | Report abuse

I am older and have been a big fan since ... a long time. I think the first piece in the puzzle is having a good owner who can bring stability to the organization, can hire the right people to run his organization, and not be a tightwad. I am very hopeful that Gibbs and company can help Snyder learn how to be a good owner from the stability standpoint. Snyder is certainly not a tightwad.

The 80s were great, and the 70s were pretty good with George Allen. If he had liked Sonny as a quarterback, we may have won some more superbowls, IMHO.

Posted by: Mark | March 9, 2007 11:53 AM | Report abuse

I am a simpleton and highly complex....

JM220,

When you are my wingman and hitting on the girl I already highlighted, this is my line while your at the bar ordering your 6th perrier and lime:

"You know he talks a big game about working out, spirtuality and bieng drug free, but word on the street has it that his twizzler habit controls his life. Do you really want to date that?"

Posted by: chris larry | March 9, 2007 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Red Vines > Twizzlers

Twizzlers still very nice.

Posted by: Dorf | March 9, 2007 11:55 AM | Report abuse

CL you're going to get my fired. Everyone just looked at me as I was laughing really hard and loud.

Posted by: jm220 | March 9, 2007 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Now is when I admit that I agree with Old School.

I just wanted to bring the regulars out hiding with some witty banter...well, banter anyway.

Posted by: etrod | March 9, 2007 11:58 AM | Report abuse

I can picture jm being the black version of Mr. Incredible... working in his tiny cubicle and throwing his squirrely boss through a wall when he is confronted about his RI addiction

Posted by: Dorf | March 9, 2007 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Twizzlers and Red Vines. Can't get neither here. I miss the Twizz at the cinema. My mother's from the west coast and would smuggle in the red vines she couldn't eat the Twizz.

Posted by: bangkokben | March 9, 2007 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Had you heard?

"Free agent RB Dominic Rhodes reached agreement Friday morning on a two-year, $7.5 million contract with the Oakland Raiders."

Posted by: bangkokben | March 9, 2007 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Jm220, my vice is candy as well...but only sour candy....smarties, sour patch, etc. I can't stand twizzlers....

Posted by: Lisa | March 9, 2007 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Is it just me or are the Broncos paying Ramsey more than 'we' did? Must be inflation at the back-up QB position. 5M for two years?

Posted by: bangkokben | March 9, 2007 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Mr Pibb + Red Vines= Crazy Delicious

Posted by: Diesel | March 9, 2007 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Good afternoon Lisa.

Posted by: jm220 | March 9, 2007 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Any of you meat gazers know where I can get some circus peanuts?

Posted by: daveb55 | March 9, 2007 12:12 PM | Report abuse

They had the merger rerun on the office last night...

Michael Scott and Dwight did their rendition of "Lazy Scranton"...

hilarious!

Nice all Diesel

Posted by: Dorf | March 9, 2007 12:12 PM | Report abuse

thanks Daveb55... I needed that.

My vice would be Slurpees and oatmeal cream pies

Posted by: Dorf | March 9, 2007 12:13 PM | Report abuse

as discussed before...

"Waterfalls of caramel"

And those whoopee pies from the Amish market. Hey how about that Ross Tucker. And you laughed at us for our big punter signing.

Posted by: SMACK | March 9, 2007 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Clearly, Mare isn't having much trouble attracting suitors as it's believed that two of Feely's former teams the Giants and Falcons as well as the Browns and Redskins are already interested.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-spdolphins09mar09,0,2821965.story?coll=sfla-dolphins-front

the skins FO must read this blog.

Posted by: Anonymous | March 9, 2007 12:20 PM | Report abuse

No SMACK we were laughing "with" you

Posted by: skinswest | March 9, 2007 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Thats such a sad list of bad QB's its laughable.

Mark... Lombardi told Sonny if he had him instead of Bart Starr no telling how many tiltles they would have one.4th thats some really old football talk.

Posted by: Old School | March 9, 2007 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Circus Peanuts are the worst candy ever invented.

Agree with JM220, twizz are the Shizz.

Posted by: etrod | March 9, 2007 12:25 PM | Report abuse

chocolate. mmmmmmm chocolate.

Posted by: 4-12 | March 9, 2007 12:29 PM | Report abuse

SMACK - Are the cowboys really planning to use Davis at tackle? Thought I read that somewhere.

Posted by: skinswest | March 9, 2007 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Mark

Good point about ownership except you can't change it (ie fire it) you have to hope the owners gets good people to coach and run the team. I think Snyder is on this track now.The post Gibbs era will test if he has learned anything

Posted by: Old School | March 9, 2007 12:34 PM | Report abuse

And good afternoon to you as well, jm220

Posted by: Lisa | March 9, 2007 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Wow, its been a while since a new post. Maybe that means JLC is so busy learning about all the sweet trades we just made that brings us all the draft picks we can handle that he hasnt had a chance to get to a computer.

That's possible right...anybody...

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | March 9, 2007 12:43 PM | Report abuse

skinswest, yeah we had the punter position all locked up so we're gonna slot him in at guard. Seriously I think it depends on whether this Colombo guy signs. You'll be happy to know you're not the only team who pay out the wazoo for other teams' detritus while giving their own the short shrift. They want to sign this guy for like 2 yrs 7 mil? Yeah right.

Posted by: SMACK | March 9, 2007 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Red Vines are to Twizzlers what Hydrox are to Oreos and Josh Lucas is to Matthew McCanahottie . . . most definitley a Friday.

Posted by: sfskin | March 9, 2007 12:45 PM | Report abuse

SMACK nice use of the word detritus.

Posted by: sfskin | March 9, 2007 12:48 PM | Report abuse

To jump in on the QB dicussion. The West Coast O really changed the game and made the QB more important and so while you can have a solid team without an allstar QB (SB Ravens) I think you need consistency and stability at the position in order to create cohesion between QB and his offensive weapons.

Posted by: sfskin | March 9, 2007 12:51 PM | Report abuse

10-year club seat contract in end zone at $1000 per seat ($100/ticket) expired. No way would I renew at $2650 per seat. Did not stop Danny from sending me an invoice for $11,840 (tax, parking) for next year. Unbelievable.

Posted by: Ex-ClubSeats | March 9, 2007 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Good afternoon Chris Larry.

Posted by: P Diddy | March 9, 2007 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Hmmm reading my last post inspires me to say . . .

Today I reveal my secret identity that I stole from Nate - CAPTAIN OBVIOUS!

Posted by: sfskin | March 9, 2007 12:53 PM | Report abuse

"detritus". AWESOME. Well done indeed.

My junk food of choice is Nutter Butters. I ate two entire bags of Pecan Sandies once, but they turned my teeth yellow for a week, so I gave them up.

Not much junk food these days. But I am a huge believer that if you go out to eat, you have to save room for dessert. Seeing as I eat out quite a bit, that's my cross to bear.

Posted by: P Diddy | March 9, 2007 12:54 PM | Report abuse

SMACK - sounds like you might need a "personal punt protector" now though. The going rate is pretty steep I hear.

Posted by: skinswest | March 9, 2007 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Where did the nickname "Captain Chaos" come from?

We're woefully short on Cooley News this offseason...

Posted by: P Diddy | March 9, 2007 12:56 PM | Report abuse

My "personal punt protector" wimped out on me last night. I was taking my usual pre-dinner nap when he called to force me to come out to a bar. I trudged over in the rain, sat down, had a drink with the dude, and then he makes a pronouncement that will forever live in Sidekick Infamy: "I have to go home and watch Grey's Anatomy".

WTF?

Posted by: P Diddy | March 9, 2007 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Diddy, Cooley has told the story several times on how he acquired the name Captain Chaos....but it escapes me. Think it came from a teammate.

Posted by: Lisa | March 9, 2007 12:58 PM | Report abuse


Last point from the past

I think Gibbs is the NFL's greatest coach because he was able to win with 3 dif. QB's
all others have been joined at the hip by a single QB.

sadly the second go around has delighted the media in lowering his status. My real sincere hope is we win again and thereby removing all doubt ie... not only did he win 4 he did it with 4 different QB's and he was able to come back after more than a decade away and win in a different era.

just my feeling, if we really have some thing going in (his belief) I could see him with a 3yr extension instead of hanging it up at then end of his contract.

no back to your regular disscussion on food or movies or whatever...

Posted by: Old School | March 9, 2007 12:59 PM | Report abuse

man...nothing blows a trip to the theater like when you approach the candy counter and see red vines instead of the twizz.

I did some time with the twizz yesterday...played hooky with a buddy and went to the Big East tourney after eating heroic amounts of pot cookies. The games were lackluster...so we checked out Reno 9-11 Miami afterwards and it was pretty lame... even in our superconcientious state.

The twizz were delicious though...and at least I missed seeing the terps sh*t the bed vs Miami.

Posted by: Jeff Hayes | March 9, 2007 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Old School,

I think Gibbs will hang it up after this season...win, lose or draw.

Posted by: Lisa | March 9, 2007 1:01 PM | Report abuse

OK, back to stoking the blog fire.

You need a good QB to win but you don't necessarily have to build your team around one.

examples. Kurt Warner in '99, Trent Dilfer in '00, Tom Brady in '01, Brad Johnson in '02, Jake Delhome in '03 (didn't win the SB but came super close).

All won in year 1 or 2 as a starter with their team.

Posted by: etrod | March 9, 2007 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Lisa likes men who wear tight-fitting t-shirts.

Posted by: Cupid | March 9, 2007 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Smack, dont meen to tell you about your own team but Colombo has only played 1 full season(last) and has been injury prone his whole career,thats why chicago cut him after being a 1st rd pic,& I think Dallas was the only team willing to take a chance on him & basically let him rehab the leg? The saints gave the same deal(7 mil) to a tackle with the same situation? and I havent seen teams lining up to bring him in I think 0?Playing 1 year doesnt make him one of theyre own, does it?

Posted by: steve | March 9, 2007 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Personal junk food weakness - Ben and Jerry's - most flavors, but "Everything But the Twisted" is especially tempting...must stop..argh...c'mon lunchtime?

Posted by: skinswest | March 9, 2007 1:04 PM | Report abuse

I heart Oreos in probably highly inappropriate ways. But not much of a candy gal I'm much more the salt freak.

In fact when I drive by a field where cows have salt licks I confess I feel a twinge of envy.
Flamin' Hot Cheetos people - they're the devil's work and will surely cause my early death from strang chemical overdose.

Old School - despite my HUGE bias I think you nailed it on Gibbs as HC.

Posted by: sfskin | March 9, 2007 1:05 PM | Report abuse

LH, thanks for additional ammo! is that going to be part of My Sweet Sixteen on MTV????

people have way too much money!!!!!!!! just think what that money could've done for inner-city school kids? WOH! *looking down from my high horse!*

Posted by: dealer | March 9, 2007 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Diddy, I think you need to re-evalute your relationship with your PPP.

Weak performance. I mean we all have our guilty pleasures, but if you are going to bail on a guy for 'Grey's Anatomy' at least make some sh*t up and lie honorably to his face.

Posted by: Jeff Hayes | March 9, 2007 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Good afternoon P Diddy

Damn I want some Pot Cookies now

Posted by: chris larry | March 9, 2007 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Personal weakness: pot, whiskey, vicodin, girly mags....oh wait were talking food..

Um hamburgers I guess, and onion rings and cheese steaks and popcorn, and cocaine...whoops!

Posted by: chris larry | March 9, 2007 1:09 PM | Report abuse

May have to reevaluate the tee shirt thing if the cafepress shirts aren't getting it done. That sucks. jm220, my sincere apologies. If I were a proper shopkeeper I would immediately refund your cash, but I am not. Maybe this weekend I'll have some time to look around and maybe set up a new version of the shirts store.

connskins, you wanna talk shirts, hit me at nateinthepdx at gmail dot com. We're not working in bulk here, just trying to get a few designs out there for blog peeps.

daveb55's post almost made me spit out my coffee. It was a close one. I love and hate those daveb posts.

chris Larry, I vote yes on pot cookies. How was the Hecklers gig?

sfskin, obviousness is next to godliness.

Happy Friday. 5 TCCLs for the blog, for surviving the troll attacks.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | March 9, 2007 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Wendy's Vanilla Frosty with French Fries

Posted by: connskins | March 9, 2007 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Steve, couldn't argue with you on any of your points, but a guy makes it through a full season at tackle in the NFL, that puts you in an elite group that usually garners more than 2/7. Especially when the guard next to you got 16 mil to sign. A player who started every game last year, in today's NFL climate, yes I would say that makes him a core Cowboy.

Posted by: SMACK | March 9, 2007 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Jeff Hayes, when Regal cinemas dropped Reese's Pieces in favor of an all-M&M lineup, I was distraught.

Those peanut butter M&Ms suck. ET himself would have rejected those little pieces of crap.

Twizzlers > Red Vines.

I want candy.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | March 9, 2007 1:21 PM | Report abuse

SMACK, sorry buddy, but I think we need a blaw against anyone ever using the phrase 'core Cowboy' up here again.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | March 9, 2007 1:22 PM | Report abuse

nate will contact you in a little while

Posted by: connskins | March 9, 2007 1:23 PM | Report abuse

"core Cowboy". ugh

Posted by: 4-12 | March 9, 2007 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Mr Pibb and Red Vines = Crazy Delicious

Posted by: Lazy Sunday | March 9, 2007 1:24 PM | Report abuse

F Sun Microsystems.

You'd think they could get the instructions right the first time for this DST thing.

Who do they think they are, the Redskins front office?

Adam

Posted by: EaglesFan | March 9, 2007 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Smack you know what time it is right. Pulling out the hammer. Smack to the back of your damn head. lol

Posted by: jm220 | March 9, 2007 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Adam, everyone is suffering on this DST thing. It's not Sun or Microsoft or anyone's fault except the boneheads in Congress who came up with the idea.

I have my Y2K barrel full of Nutter Butters and tequila. I'm prepared for a harsh month ahead.

Posted by: P Diddy | March 9, 2007 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Ha, I knew you were gonna love that. I nearly apologized in advance. That phrase doesn't even sound right to me!

Posted by: SMACK | March 9, 2007 1:28 PM | Report abuse

etrod..
you need 2 things.. a QB and a Defense.. the better the Defense, the less good (if thats proper english) the QB has to be.. and vise versa.. the better the QB, the less good the defense needs to be.. its that simple, because the QB is the guy who moves the ball down the field and into the end zone, and on the other side, the defense is what stops that from happening..
look at most of the teams that won without great QB's.. they all had great defenses.. and the teams that had great QB's didn't need great defenses.. getting there is easier said than done though.. great QB's and Defense's aren't a dime a dozen..

Posted by: vpar | March 9, 2007 1:30 PM | Report abuse

I know the DST thing is causing headaches and doesn't actually save energy at all but I LOVE DST!

I'm a flower...fern...weed who needs sunlight and I feel like a new woman when the sun is still up at 7pm, 8pm, 9pm.

etrod - break down on QBs was good and supports my Cpt Obvi statement cause all except Dilfer were long term team members.

Posted by: sfskin | March 9, 2007 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Where is 4th? Wolverines are hanging with Buckeyes 45-50 with 9 mins left. My response to being screwed out of an hour on Sunday was to call in sick today. I blame the federal government.

Posted by: SMACK | March 9, 2007 1:34 PM | Report abuse

I heard Columbo was being dissed cause when he met with the bug-eyed monster he kept staring at the back of his head looking for the place where all the skin was pulled back to see if it was really held together with a rubber band...

Posted by: cload and daggar | March 9, 2007 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Hecklers gig actually rocked! which is rare for us....

We had mad big crowd (for us) due to 1. we hadnt played in awhile 2. we added a pair of fine breasts on organ and 3. we opened for two bands from the People's Republic of China which I dont think is a regualar occurence...

For fans of middle age inept punk rock here is th myspace page, you have been forewarned WE STINK!

http://www.myspace.com/thehecklers

Posted by: chris larry | March 9, 2007 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Oh and we did a crazy demented cover of Tom Petty's Refugee as our final song...

Posted by: chris larry | March 9, 2007 1:35 PM | Report abuse

vpar - What if you have a great kicker?

Posted by: Chris | March 9, 2007 1:36 PM | Report abuse

etrod

I will let you repost and retract Tom Brady from your qb list. If no retract jm220 to Skull

Posted by: Old School | March 9, 2007 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Smack -- keep the Michigan score coming; I don't know where Bucktown is, but you've got my attention.

Although the only thing I'm aware of is that Amaker evidently sucks and the cogniscienti want him gone now.

Posted by: cload and daggar | March 9, 2007 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Reese's pieces are the best. F peanut butter M&M's.

Pot cookies are the best. F all other cookies. I swear I may never smoke the stuff again. I was still blasted when I woke up this morning!

I nearly lost it on the am conference call which happens when I take a drug vacation and temporarily realize our silly corporate world is completely devoid of purpose and meaning!

Ah, clarity.

core cowboy = douchebag

Posted by: Jeff Hayes | March 9, 2007 1:41 PM | Report abuse

How I wish we had a young, fresh-faced, prophetic owner like you do. I don't think it's a rubber band, we have the latest in binder clip technology down in Big D.

skinswest, you should know better than anyone that what we need is a "personal FG protector".

Posted by: SMACK | March 9, 2007 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Smack,this goes for all teams that use the excuse that one guy makes more then the other? In todays Cap era that will happen alot so thats a BULLS**T excuse for any team!If a guy fits and you have the cap space PAY HIM, The columbo situation seems to be different & Hes young enough to CASH in if he plays for those 2 years HEALTHY!

Posted by: steve | March 9, 2007 1:45 PM | Report abuse

One thing that hasn't changed over the years in the NFL is that a dominant offensive line can carry an offense. The skins need to focus on developing an elite offensive line and the rest of the offense will fall into place.

Posted by: Max | March 9, 2007 1:47 PM | Report abuse

4 mins to play 'rines are toast. 66-56. Amaker is like the Antonella Barba of college coaches. He looks good but he can't sing for shti.

Posted by: SMACK | March 9, 2007 1:49 PM | Report abuse

I shant remove Tom Brady. That team was built around Drew Bledsoemuchontheinsidehehadtobereplaced. Brady was inserted in something like the 5th game of the season.
I can't win in this place. I'll just go back to Sean Taylor smack (to the back of the head).

Posted by: etrod | March 9, 2007 1:49 PM | Report abuse

whoa- CL...you totally gave the finger to the music biz.

It would've been nice to have caught the Southpaw show w/ The Real Kids...2 blocks from my house and I didn't even know.

I'll make it out and heckle one of these days

Posted by: Jeff Hayes | March 9, 2007 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Ah, well. My indifference was exemplified by my laziness.
Go Blue - NIT champions NNNN, NNNN, and NNNN.

Posted by: cload and daggar | March 9, 2007 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Back from Lunch. Michigan F'd up the other week, letting those suckers off the hook. I think they still might be in the tournament though. Thanks SMACK!

Posted by: 4th | March 9, 2007 1:52 PM | Report abuse

and F daylight savings time is correct.

This is in reference to the Daylight Savings Time act of 2005. That's right, 2005. that means Microsoft and Sun and all that is software had 2 years to figure this crap out and the best they can come up with is a stupid client patch that has to be run on every machine in the company???

fdrdabrth rhtrths trthgrthghy (Head banging on keyboard)

incidentally, the act was passed because daylight needed to be saved from Sean Taylor.

Posted by: etrod | March 9, 2007 1:55 PM | Report abuse

You mean the NIT, right 4th?

Posted by: cload and daggar | March 9, 2007 1:56 PM | Report abuse

The sun does not set, it's merely running from Sean Taylor...

Posted by: cload and daggar | March 9, 2007 1:58 PM | Report abuse

>>> "daylight needed to be saved from Sean Taylor"

Priceless.

Time for hangover nap now.

Have a good and productive Friday. We're all doomed at 2:01am Sunday morning, so live it up while you still can!

Posted by: P Diddy | March 9, 2007 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Yo!

Jeff Hayes...that essay is pretty old...from the Napster era...i went pretty easy on them! but hey my track record as the "F" guy goes way back...

Real Kids gig was fun....one of the new guys in the band at that time said to us..."hey that was pretty good for your first show!" and we were like

"Dude we have been together like 7 years!"

Posted by: chris larry | March 9, 2007 2:00 PM | Report abuse

would that be 2:01 or 3:01?

Posted by: cload and daggar | March 9, 2007 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Happy peanuts sore over chocolate covered mountain tops and waterfalls of caramel... prancing nougat in the middle sings a song of satisfaction to the world

the world!

Posted by: Dorf | March 9, 2007 2:02 PM | Report abuse

ha! good stuff. A band a used to manage did a bunch of shows with them. Hippie Johnny threw out his back the last time around and couldn't move! Literally couldn't walk- he was stuck on the stage when everyone was loading out. Those dudes are old.

Posted by: Jeff Hayes | March 9, 2007 2:04 PM | Report abuse

"All Kinds of Girls" is one of the greatest songs of all time!

Posted by: chris larry | March 9, 2007 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Is something really really big going on at Redskins Park today? Or is this the day that the LaCanfora family is dashing off to the hospital?

Posted by: The Mole | March 9, 2007 2:07 PM | Report abuse

NEW POST

Posted by: Anonymous | March 9, 2007 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Chris
I'm with u on the kicker.. the most underestimated player on the field and in the draft.. great kickers make it much easier on the QB.. he still the guy who gets you down the field, but he doesn't have to drive all the way to the 20 yd line to get points..
All the other pieces (ie special teams, etc) help in building the big puzzle.. and can make up for problems in other areas.. but i still stick with my theory.. to have a winning team in the nfl, you must have either a great QB or a great Defense as the core of your team.. i'm mean look at philly.. 11 wins every year.. why.. great QB and great D.. there defense started to fall last year, so did their record.. mcnabb injury aside..

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