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Posted at 3:10 PM ET, 01/12/2011

Roster analysis: The offensive line market

By J.I. Halsell
J.I. Halsell

In 2010 the Redskins' offensive line yielded the fifth-most sacks in the league with 46. Entering the offseason, this unit faces the possible departures of tackles Jammal Brown and Stephon Heyer via free agency, and the front office is going to have to make decisions on whether or not Casey Rabach and Derrick Dockery should return in 2011 under their existing deals.

After being deactivated for the majority of the season and starting only two games, it would seem that Dockery's second tenure as a Redskin will be coming to an end, given his $3.82 million salary in 2011. With non-guaranteed salaries of $3.82 million, $4.78 million, and $5.74 million, perhaps there is a small chance that the Redskins could find a trade partner, but given Dockery's limited action in 2010, clubs would be more inclined to wait for his contract to be terminated.

Unless franchised, elite offensive linemen like the Patriots' Logan Mankins and Panthers' Ryan Kalil stand to become free agents this offseason. Other potential free agents under the age of 30 include:

Redskins offensive line coach Chris Foerster spent 2005 - 2007 as offensive line and assistant head coach of the Ravens. Foerster was in Baltimore with the three Ravens listed above, so it would not be surprising to see the Redskins possibly pursue one of the Ravens' free agent linemen.

While Jared Gaither's 6-foot-9, 340-pound measurables are attention grabbing, the versatility of Marshal Yanda could make him the better acquisition. Yanda is currently the Ravens' starting right tackle, but started at guard earlier in the season and has been in the Ravens' starting lineup all season.

A name not listed above is 49ers guard Chilo Rachal. A 2008 second-round pick of the 49ers, Rachal has started 35 of 39 games played since coming into the league. After a strong rookie year, in which he was coached by Foerster, Rachal has had his struggles. As he enters the final year of his rookie contract, he could find himself challenged by veteran Adam Snyder for his starting role. If the 49ers choose to trade Rachal, then the club acquiring the 24-year old USC product will do so at a 2011 total compensation rate of $719,000.

In Denver, right tackle Ryan Harris was drafted by Mike Shanahan in the third round of the 2007 draft. Since 2008, Harris has started 34 of 35 games he has played. However, in his four-year career, Harris has only played in 16 games in a season once and only played in 11 games in 2010.

Bucs guard Davin Joseph was selected by Bruce Allen in the first round of the 2006 draft and was elected to the Pro Bowl in 2008. Joseph has played at a high level since entering the league and could command elite money on the market this offseason -- which could preclude the Redskins and Allen from pursuing him.

Jammal Brown turns 30 this offseason. Toward the end of the season, he seemed to be returning to his old form. One would assume that the Redskins will make a push to re-sign the right tackle, having traded for him, but Brown's value will truly be dictated by an uncertain demand for his services on the market. Steelers right tackle Willie Colon finds himself in the same situation as Brown a year ago, as he comes off of an Achilles' injury that derailed his entire 2010 season. If he does not re-sign in Pittsburgh, Colon could be worth a gamble in 2011.

J.I. Halsell spent two seasons as a salary cap analyst for the Washington Redskins and now pens a blog entitled "Under the Cap" for FootballOutsiders.com. Follow him on Twitter at @SalaryCap101.

By J.I. Halsell  | January 12, 2011; 3:10 PM ET
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Comments

O-line is the FIRST priority. Oh yeah, and everthing else, too.

Posted by: Alan4 | January 12, 2011 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan drafted Ryan Harris and he fits in his scheme. He is a good young bookend right tackle.

Posted by: nfcBEaST | January 12, 2011 3:24 PM | Report abuse

I wonder what the Niners might ask for Rachal...considering his struggles, that may be the under the radar type of FA I was talking about...and reuniting with Foerster may just be what the doctor ordered.

Posted by: PlayAction | January 12, 2011 3:24 PM | Report abuse

We should build around Trent Williams and Jammal Brown as Tackles - Lichtensteiner as Center - and try to replace both Guards through the draft.

I'd keep Heyer, Hicks, and Montgomery as backups and get rid of everyone else.

Posted by: mac2j | January 12, 2011 3:27 PM | Report abuse

lets just make competent decision this offseason, whether we draft d line in the 1st round and/or sign some o-line through free agency, all that i ask is we upgrade and not F up when making these critical decisions

Posted by: retroskins14 | January 12, 2011 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Keep McNabb and fix the O-line.

Posted by: hbu_dog | January 12, 2011 3:31 PM | Report abuse

F em, I hope they go 0-16 next year.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 12, 2011 3:16 PM |

You mean the first team to go 0-18!

Posted by: PlayAction | January 12, 2011 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Congrats on the new gig, JReid!

Posted by: 4-12 | January 12, 2011 3:32 PM | Report abuse

If you had a chance to watch the Saints/Hawks game, one thing that stood out was the way the center of the Saints OL repelled the Hawks DL. They got no push up the middle. In some of the Skins games it seemed like the center of the OL collapsed like a wet paper bag.

Posted by: LittleGreenBag | January 12, 2011 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Stephon Heyer will resign for a reasonable amount of money and he will be the Redskins starting right tackle next year.

Posted by: coparker5 | January 12, 2011 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Oh, we're fine on the line. At least that's what some folks are writing.

However, I think some of guys mentioned here would be good fits. I don't care how much they cost - this is the area of the team that if you know the guys fits what you do and has the talent to do it at a high level then you open up the checkbook.

Here's to taking B'mores sloppy seconds.

Posted by: bangkokben | January 12, 2011 3:35 PM | Report abuse


lets just make competent decision this offseason, whether we draft d line in the 1st round and/or sign some o-line through free agency, all that i ask is we upgrade and not F up when making these critical decisions

Posted by: retroskins14 | January 12, 2011 3:30 PM |
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yes indeed !

Posted by: hessone | January 12, 2011 3:36 PM | Report abuse

UFB!!

Mike Shanahan: Focus on Draft this year for Redskins

Posted by Mike Florio on January 12, 2011, 1:30 PM EST

Redskins have decided to forgo Free Agent acquisitions (irregardless of this being the biggest FA class in history) since they have not worked out well for this team in the past and focus solely on the draft this offseason.

After the draft the Redskins will look over the remains of the 2011 FAs to complement the players selected or signed as un-drafted FAs.


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/category/rumor-mill/

Posted by: kerzon417 | January 12, 2011 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Congrats on the new gig, JReid!

Posted by: 4-12 | January 12, 2011 3:32 PM

"Jason’s new responsibilities create an opening on the Redskins beat. A strong external candidate has emerged..."

Hmmmmm...who could it be...I know its not me or monk...hessone?

Posted by: PlayAction | January 12, 2011 3:42 PM | Report abuse

be careful of b-more's sloppy seconds, i hate to say it b/c i hate the ravens, but they are money when it comes to drafting/player personnel

and 6 years ago, they let casey rabach go, b/c they knew.....

we scooped him up and 6 years later he is still our biggest problem

SHANNY/ALLEN,

PLEASE GET A NEW CENTER

THANKS,
RANDOM SKINS FAN

Posted by: retroskins14 | January 12, 2011 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Got a mug from a fav, the Wayfarer (Cape Porpoise) for Christmas.

Posted by: TheCork | January 12, 2011 3:36 PM |

I got a mug from a fav, Perry (Cape Platypus) for Christmas.

Signed,

Dr. Heinz Doffenshmirtz

Posted by: LittleGreenBag | January 12, 2011 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Maybe we should be trading for 2012 draft picks instead of 2011 picks. It seems like a lot of players are staying in school.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 12, 2011 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 12, 2011 3:50 PM

Have one already from the Raiders...

Posted by: kerzon417 | January 12, 2011 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Casey Rabach was never our biggest problem. I don't know if that is defending Casey or stating the obvious - we've had multiple problems bigger Rabach!

Six years of starting service is a GOOD FA pick-up for us.

Now just because his sell by date has passed and the front office decided to pay him well beyond his expiration date dosen't negate the fact that he was a good pick-up for us.

B'more drafts linemen by the bushel so they don't have to give the big contract to them. We didn't raise the beef so now we have to pay premium for the price of steak.

Posted by: bangkokben | January 12, 2011 3:59 PM | Report abuse

PLEASE GET A NEW CENTER

Total agreement here.

If you take Rabach out of the line, what you have is a group of three 1st time NFL starters: Williams, Monty, and Licthensteiger.

Getting younger, faster stronger at the center would really put in place a group that grows together over the next 2-3 years.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 12, 2011 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Congrats on the new gig, JReid!

Posted by: 4-12 | January 12, 2011 3:32 PM

And the new name and the new face!

Posted by: dcsween | January 12, 2011 4:05 PM | Report abuse

I think this was a pretty damn good insider article! This J.I. Halsell is okay in my book...

Posted by: noseman4681 | January 12, 2011 4:10 PM | Report abuse

"Jason’s new responsibilities create an opening on the Redskins beat. A strong external candidate has emerged..."

Hope they get John Keim from the Examiner. Not sure he'd want to work for the Post, though.

Posted by: beep-beep | January 12, 2011 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Out of all the people mentioned that will be free agents this year. I only like two. Ryan Harris, who is a great zone blocking tackle. That had pro bowl talent in that system. But after Shannahan left was forced playing in a power running game system, which do to him being kind of smallish he just didn't fit the system.

He'll go to the Seahawks or Redskins, so he can get back to his form. But more likely will chose us because Skins selected him and was most productive under him.

I'm not worried about his ankle injury he had that limited him for two seasons, he was forced back to early and got hurt again. By next year he''ll be 25 and healthy. And a bookend on the right side to pair with Trent for years to come.

And Samson Satele. Satele is a smaller more athletic center, that would fit in our offense perfectly. He has been let go by the Dolphins and now the Raiders due to his stature and not fitting a power running system. But he'll be an elite level center in our system which involves more speed and less power. Which is something he's been damned for in other places but will be rewarded for here. And at 26 he should have 3 to 4 good years left in him, especially the fact he's not injury prone.

I trust the people in power and have faith they'll go after these two guys, neither will go for anything more than a mid level contract and probably be performance based. Thats something I'm loving about the organization now, no more cap heavy guaranteed money contracts and more performance based contracts. It saves money and keeps people hungry.

Now with the pick we get from the Mcnabb and Albert trade (just a matter of time) we should have enough to move up and down the draft boards. And select some good players like guard Stephen Schilling (MICH), Caleb Schlauderaff (UTH) or center Jake Kirkpatrick (TCU) to add depth to our line and develop potential starters for the future.

Posted by: culprit59 | January 12, 2011 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Hope they get John Keim from the Examiner. Not sure he'd want to work for the Post, though.

Posted by: beep-beep | January 12, 2011 4:11 PM |

co-sign.

Hopefully the next blogga will actually respond to replies from time to time. Jasno did for a while, which was great. The negativity got to him near the end, and he clammed up.

Posted by: swowra | January 12, 2011 4:25 PM | Report abuse

there is no fa period until there is a new agreement. thus, due to the impending lockout, the draft will most likely happen first this year. this is good news for the redskins as they can address the best players available for their needs in the draft and then fill in the gaps via fa later (whenever it may be ... summer/fall/next year - who knows). the lockout could actually help us a lot. gotta stay informed people ... get it together! also, j reid blows ... he will never ever replace wilbon.

Posted by: SJK_This_Blog | January 12, 2011 4:26 PM | Report abuse

meep meep

Posted by: Oogalaboogala | January 12, 2011 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Hope they get John Keim from the Examiner. Not sure he'd want to work for the Post, though.

Posted by: beep-beep | January 12, 2011 4:11 PM |

co-sign.

Hopefully the next blogga will actually respond to replies from time to time.


I'm hoping the next blogga will actually be a blogga, maybe the dude from Hogs Haven or one of the Mottram brothers.

If they DO go to an ouside columnist, then I hope its Rich Campbell from the Free Lance Star. he seems to offer good insight when I hear him on the radio, but he works for a newspaper I've never heard of.

Posted by: Predator48 | January 12, 2011 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Hope they get John Keim from the Examiner. Not sure he'd want to work for the Post, though.

Posted by: beep-beep | January 12, 2011 4:11 PM |

co-sign.

Hopefully the next blogga will actually respond to replies from time to time.


I'm hoping the next blogga will actually be a blogga, maybe the dude from Hogs Haven or one of the Mottram brothers.

If they DO go to an ouside columnist, then I hope its Rich Campbell from the Free Lance Star. he seems to offer good insight when I hear him on the radio, but he works for a newspaper I've never heard of.

Posted by: Predator48 | January 12, 2011 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, first time posting in forever and double-posted by the movable-type-gods

Posted by: Predator48 | January 12, 2011 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, first time posting in forever and double-posted by the movable-type-gods

Posted by: Predator48 | January 12, 2011 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, first time posting in forever and double-posted by the movable-type-gods

Posted by: Predator48 | January 12, 2011 4:51 PM | Report abuse

My '10 o-line analysis: Rabach was solid in pass protection, but isn't a good fit for the zone run scheme. By the end of the season, Montgomery emerged as our best lineman. He was solid in pass protection and the zone scheme seems to suit him nicely. Lichtenstieger was a seeve in the passing game, but preformed well in the run game. Brown was horrible early in the season but was much better near the end. Williams played like a rookie.

'11 projections: Williams needs to make big strides in the offseason or he may have to be switched to RT (he gave up too many sacks last year). Sign Brown or Ryan Harris and let them compete with Williams for LT, the loser plays RT. Bring in one of the top notch guards available(there are a few) to play LG. Move Lichtenstieger to Center(this will alleviate some of his pass protection issues). Montgomery will be a stud at RG for some years. Cut Dockery, Rabach, and Heyer and bring in some young guys for depth.

Posted by: kerrdawg | January 12, 2011 5:18 PM | Report abuse

This is the best year in awhile for interior lineman if some of these guys actually make it to free agency. I see at least 7 guys in this list that will command $30M+ contracts, and a few over $40M, assuming there is a free agency. I think Blaylock and Joseph are the best of these, but Chester and Yanda are good players. It's hard to see Balt. giving all three of their players big contracts, and would expect Yanda to get the priority, as he plays tackle and guard. I like Harris also, but signing him probably depends on whether they sign Jamaal Brown. Joseph and Chester have both played center, BTW, so they have flexibility. A lot of good options here, especially given the lack of good OL FAs in the last several years. We'll see how many actually hit the street, though.

Posted by: sysadb4201 | January 12, 2011 5:28 PM | Report abuse

UFB!!

Mike Shanahan: Focus on Draft this year for Redskins

Posted by Mike Florio on January 12, 2011, 1:30 PM EST

Redskins have decided to forgo Free Agent acquisitions (irregardless of this being the biggest FA class in history) since they have not worked out well for this team in the past and focus solely on the draft this offseason.

After the draft the Redskins will look over the remains of the 2011 FAs to complement the players selected or signed as un-drafted FAs.


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/category/rumor-mill/

Posted by: kerzon417 | January 12, 2011 3:40 PM

I find that hard to believe when Shanahan himself said they were limited in FA this past off season and this coming off season they will take advantage of.

Posted by: heatseeker690069 | January 12, 2011 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Shanny is going to use the multiple picks he plans to get for McNabb and Haynesworth?

Posted by: coparker5 | January 12, 2011 6:51 PM | Report abuse

Shanny is going to rely on the multiple picks he plans to get for McNabb and Haynesworth?

Posted by: coparker5 | January 12, 2011 6:51 PM | Report abuse

Even the most ardent supporters of Shanahan characteriaze his behavior as "erractic". Why would any potential new employee come to work for this company? Even if they are significantly overpaid there is no guarantee the schizophrenic boss will change. A moderately intelligent potential employee will go to a more stable work enviroment, with honest and reliable head coaches, like John Harbaugh, Mike Tomlin, Raheem Morris and Andy Reid.

In short, no one wants to work for a nut job.

Posted by: jmueller7 | January 12, 2011 6:57 PM | Report abuse

I wonder how Jared Gaither would fair in this system. If he's a fit could Jammal Brown be moved inside to guard? Could we trade Dock for Chilo? I would like to trade down in the draft and pick up the center from Penn State, Wisnewski. The dudes a total stud.

Posted by: fjd124 | January 12, 2011 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Spending too much on "name" FAs and getting too little performance in return is a big reason for the 'Skins sorry state the last several years ... But I hope they get agressive in going after several of these guys - these aren't household name / glam FAs ,but instead are solid foundation kind of guys, and I wouldn't mind seeing 'Skins commit serious money to this long neglected (yet vitaly important) part of the team ...

Posted by: RoidRage | January 12, 2011 7:56 PM | Report abuse

First I wanna give culprit59, kerrdawg, and riodrage props. I would have to agree that overspending for FAs. If we do after FAs, then get em young and get horses that fit our systems. Harris and Spencer are both proven zone blocking interior linemen. Satele, I'm not to familiar with his skills and abilities. Although he does seem like he would be an excellent for our off scheme. Whatever guys we bring, Shanny can't forget to keep his eyes on bringing in the franchise cornerstones through the draft. The franchise needs to get back building through the draft, instead of FA.

Posted by: sam_spg94 | January 12, 2011 9:55 PM | Report abuse

alot of talk here is fools talk..this team gives up tons of sacks and qb hits the interior of their line(all of them so-called whites)are "weak" the are constantly wiped out at the point of attack(driven back)all this idiot talk about them and how good they are or will be in the zone blocking scheme means nothing to the giants, cowboys,(some extent eagles)as when they line up face to face washington will be bullied and knocked on their backs as usual if this same group of slow, incompetent lineman are back for the 2011 season look for more of the same as 2010. GET BIGGER AND STRONGER LINE-MAN and stop the bull-sh-t.

Posted by: wathu19 | January 12, 2011 10:10 PM | Report abuse

Upgrading the interior of the line is a must. No doubt abt that. Rome wasn't built in a day, the O-Line ain't gonna get fixed in one off season either. Getting guys that are better suited for our blocking schemes is what is gonna make us consistent, not trying to copy our division mates. Look at the teams that are consistent year in year out, Ravens, Steelers, Patriots, Colts, Giants, and Saints to name a few. They all do what they do regardless of what other teams are doing. That's where we need to get. We don't need to have an O-Line that weighs 1500+ lbs. We just need to have guys that have power, but more important, they need to be more athletic that the huge lines. Shanny has proved that you don't have to have the huge O-Lines like the Cowboys for example. Once we get those type of guys, we won't continue to be the worst at 3rd down conversions and continue to be on the top of the league in sacks allowed.

Posted by: sam_spg94 | January 12, 2011 11:03 PM | Report abuse

i would love to see Samson Satele replace rabach at center! save the draft picks in a poor oline draft and fill the holes with young fa!

Posted by: warriorking111285 | January 12, 2011 11:32 PM | Report abuse

Do anybody know if Big Mike Williams will be back next year. I think him at guard will fix one of the problems

Posted by: jfrost8171 | January 13, 2011 7:34 AM | Report abuse

Rabach may have been a good pickup at the time but he is clearly a liability now. All you have to do is watch film on how many times he was pushed into the backfield, destroying his team's running plays before they had a chance to get started. But it wasn't just him. I would like to all but Williams moved to a backup roll or traded as they were clearly outplayed for the majority of the games.

Posted by: keedrow | January 13, 2011 9:37 AM | Report abuse

I'm not sure how Heyer is even in the league. Just shows how desperate the skins are. Rabach has got to go, dude is constantly getting blown up. Really the whole line - save Williams - is expendable! That's probably true defensively too.

Posted by: really9 | January 13, 2011 10:15 AM | Report abuse

Remember the Detroit game? 4 DL in the Skins backfield each play - all up the middle. Rabach is a major liability. With only T. Williams having guaranteed money in 2011, you have to believe Skins will be major FA players. OL is key to any team - find good FA and complement with rookies in later rounds.

Posted by: ASinNY | January 13, 2011 10:43 AM | Report abuse

if they can get Marshal Yanda, Ryan Harris and maybe Chilo Rachal from free agency that's a good group of young Oline protecting the Skins QB (Jake Locker, possibly)

LT - Trent Williams
LG - Kory Lichtensteiger
C - Will Montgomery
RG - Ryan Harris
RT - Marshal Yanda

unfortunately, they can't really rebuild the Oline just by the draft, they need free agents

Posted by: datruth21 | January 13, 2011 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Do anybody know if Big Mike Williams will be back next year. I think him at guard will fix one of the problems

Posted by: jfrost8171 | January 13, 2011 7:34 AM
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agreed..

Posted by: BootneyFarnsworth | January 13, 2011 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: fjd124 - I would like to trade down in the draft and pick up the center from Penn State, Wisnewski. The dudes a total stud.
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I'm for it. Tough, smart and quick enough too.

Posted by: kone | January 13, 2011 12:24 PM | Report abuse

I've heard a couple of times on NFLradio that G Robert Gallery of Oakland will be a free agent, so I wonder why he's not listed here. And makes me wonder who else is off this short list?

Posted by: wkrdove | January 13, 2011 3:14 PM | Report abuse

I've heard a couple of times on NFLradio that G Robert Gallery of Oakland will be a free agent, so I wonder why he's not listed here. And makes me wonder who else is off this short list?

Posted by: wkrdove | January 13, 2011 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Is this new blog guy going to respond back to comments?

Do anybody know if Big Mike Williams will be back next year. I think him at guard will fix one of the problems

Posted by: jfrost8171 | January 13, 2011 7:34 AM | Report abuse


Excellent point: Where is Big Mike Williams and has his health improved where he can play NFL football again?

Even if he wis at 100%, does BMW have the skills for the Shanahan zone blocking scheme?

Blogs are great, Dialogues are BETTER!

Posted by: grandstrand | January 14, 2011 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Is this new blog guy going to respond back to comments?

Do anybody know if Big Mike Williams will be back next year. I think him at guard will fix one of the problems

Posted by: jfrost8171 | January 13, 2011 7:34 AM | Report abuse


Excellent point: Where is Big Mike Williams and has his health improved where he can play NFL football again?

Even if he wis at 100%, does BMW have the skills for the Shanahan zone blocking scheme?

Blogs are great, Dialogues are BETTER!

Posted by: grandstrand | January 14, 2011 3:48 PM | Report abuse

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