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Posted at 10:17 AM ET, 02/11/2011

Roster analysis: What's Shaun Rogers worth?

By J.I. Halsell
J.I. Halsell

With Santana Moss's contract voiding, the 31-year old wide receiver will become an unrestricted free agent at the commencement of the 2011 league year (tentatively set for March 4 pending a new CBA). The voiding of Moss's contract does not make him a free agent immediately, but simply voids the 2011 - 2013 contract years of his contract. The Redskins still retain his rights until the end of the 2010 league year.

Moss's situation differs from that of nose tackle Shaun Rogers, whose remaining contract years of 2011 - 2013 were terminated this week by the Browns. By terminating Rogers's contract, the Browns made the nose tackle a street free agent. Street free agents may sign with a new club immediately.

With the soon-to-be 32-year-old Rogers visiting the Redskins, one must assess the value of a player who went from a dominant 75 tackles and 4.5 sacks in 2008 to a pedestrian 17 tackles and 2 sacks in 2010 with just one start in 15 games played.

Prior to the 2010 season, the Broncos signed a then 34-year-old nose tackle in Jamal Williams to a contract that averaged $5.3 million over three years with $6 million guaranteed and paid in the first year with another $1 million guaranteed for injury in year two of the deal. Williams, whose 2009 season with the Chargers was ended by a triceps injury in week one, was able to start 16 games for the Broncos, which allowed the nose tackle to earn an additional $1.25 million in 2010 through an incentive based on his playing time.

While Williams was able to garner a deal averaging $5.3 million after coming off of a triceps injury, Raiders defensive tackle John Henderson was only able to secure a one-year deal worth a little more than $1 million coming off of a 2009 season in which he started 15 of the 15 games he played in for the Jaguars and had 36 tackles with 3 sacks. Henderson, who had started 120 of 124 games played for the Jaguars, was able to earn an additional $250,000 through a playtime incentive similar to one in Williams's contract.

Whether it's in Washington or elsewhere, determining the market value for a player with the historical productivity of Shaun Rogers proves to be challenging. Given the difficulty of finding productive nose tackles, Rogers stands a solid chance of having his pick of suitors. Whether he signs a lucrative deal similar to Williams or a one-year deal like Henderson, he'll surely ink a contract that compensates him, in part, based on his ability to stay on the field.


J.I. Halsell spent two seasons as a salary cap analyst for the Washington Redskins and now pens a blog entitled "Under the Cap" for FootballOutsiders.com. Follow him on Twitter at @SalaryCap101.

By J.I. Halsell  | February 11, 2011; 10:17 AM ET
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Comments

In assessing Rogers' worth, it's important to FIRST ask the question: what does an open pack of Skittles and a shot of 5 Hour Energy go for nowadays?

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 11, 2011 10:31 AM | Report abuse

I read that entire thing...and he didn't give us the answer? wtf!

Posted by: PlayAction | February 11, 2011 10:31 AM | Report abuse

We still don't know if he can read a defense, effectively go thru progressions, or master a full NFL playbook ... There's no drill for any of that.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 11, 2011 10:25 AM

There is. It's called the Wonderlick test. It is given to all prospective draftees at the Combo.

Posted by: ElDrano | February 11, 2011 10:34 AM | Report abuse

We still don't know if he can read a defense, effectively go thru progressions, or master a full NFL playbook ... There's no drill for any of that.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 11, 2011 10:25 AM

There is. It's called the Wonderlick test. It is given to all prospective draftees at the Combo.

Posted by: ElDrano | February 11, 2011 10:34 AM |

1. read a defense - spatial pattern recognition

2. effectively go thru progressions - test measures speed and agility of mental calculations

3. master a full NFL playbook - logical rasoning

Posted by: ElDrano | February 11, 2011 10:40 AM | Report abuse

brownwood

We still don't know if he can read a defense, effectively go thru progressions, or master a full NFL playbook to the point that he could be looked to as the indisputed leader of that unit.


You might as well just call the guy dumb.

And I doubt that he is.

How many quarterbacks scored high on the Wonderlic, but lacked the ability to 'make it all happen' on the field?

Tons.

Pat Ramsey came to DC with a Tulane education and Maryland Eastern Shore on field performance ability.

And nobody doubted if Ramsey could do the things you list.

Ramsey could make the reads, but, hey, he couldn't make plays with his legs when the protection broke down.

Newton can: we know that.

And, btw, film study is such that scouts can tell is a quarterback is making reads and the right throws.

And from what we've heard and read, Newton has shown the ability to do both.

I doubt the guy is dumb just like last year I doubted Sam Bradford was 'brittle'.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 11, 2011 10:41 AM | Report abuse

There is. It's called the Wonderlick test. It is given to all prospective draftees at the Combo.

Posted by: ElDrano | February 11, 2011 10:34 AM

The Wonderlick test is what Bill gave Monica.

Posted by: groundhogdayguy | February 11, 2011 10:42 AM | Report abuse

PA

I read that entire thing...and he didn't give us the answer? wtf!


It's all rhetorical, isn't it?

There's the league wide value and what is Rogers value to a team with on 1 true NT and few draft picks.

The skins could avoid signing Rogers and decide to draft a NT, too.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 11, 2011 10:48 AM | Report abuse

We still don't know if he can read a defense, effectively go thru progressions, or master a full NFL playbook ... There's no drill for any of that.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 11, 2011 10:25 AM

There is. It's called the Wonderlick test. It is given to all prospective draftees at the Combo.

Posted by: ElDrano | February 11, 2011 10:34 AM

Yeah, it's a really good one too. You know the only guy to get a perfect score on the Wonderlic? Pat McInally. I was at the HoF a couple years ago, and I don't recall him being there.

The all time highest Wonderlic scores belong to McInally, Mike Mamula, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Kevin Curtis, and Ben Watson.

Note there are no star QBs there.

Drew Brees posted a 28 and Alex Smith posted a 40. So like I said...there's no drill to accurately gauge if a guy can read a defense, effectively go thru progressions, or master a full NFL playbook.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 11, 2011 10:49 AM | Report abuse

I read that entire thing...and he didn't give us the answer? wtf!

Posted by: PlayAction | February 11, 2011 10:31 AM | Report abuse

I'm not reading it then!

Posted by: monk811 | February 11, 2011 10:53 AM | Report abuse

brownwood

So like I said...there's no drill to accurately gauge if a guy can read a defense, effectively go thru progressions, or master a full NFL playbook.

So how does this become a reason not to draft Newton, then?

Film study has shown he can be an effective, progression reading quarterback, according to a report from NFL scouts a read three days ago.

Dude is a 6'6" Mike Vick.

Deal with it.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 11, 2011 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, but Moe, saving the draft pick for a top NT for a QB or Von Miller or other defender by signing Rogers (to be used in rotation with Bryant) makes a lot of sense..

Then we trade McNabb, Haynesworth and A. Carter to the Bengals for Palmer, Ochocinco and Owens..Opening game on NBC Sunday Night Football against the Patriots, with Parliament, Trouble Funk (Grinnin' Chuck Brown) and Rythym Express in concert...Should appeal to the PT Barnum in any Dan Snyder...

Posted by: frak | February 11, 2011 10:56 AM | Report abuse

The wonderlick test is just another reason to call Jason,Donovan,Vince and any other QB of color "not smart enough" to read NFL defenses, it is complete bullsh_t, sit the prospective QB in a film room and then ask him the question's that pertain to his position. The NFL should ban the wonderlick test did they give this test to Bart Starr,Johnny Unitas,Sonny Jurgensen,Roman Gabriel,Terry Bradshaw,Fran Tarkenton, and countless other's? The true test of any prospective QB is can he lead his team, do they have confidence in him, and yes, can he read the oppossing team's defensive scheme?

Posted by: dargregmag | February 11, 2011 10:57 AM | Report abuse

I knew a street free agent...


LOOOOOTSSSS of Penicillin.

Posted by: DikShuttle | February 11, 2011 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Moe, I never implied the guy is dumb or that he can't play...all I'm sayin' is that it's funny to me that so many people can gush over the guy because of a controlled workout. Mayock said the best Pro Day he ever saw was JaMarcus Russell's. We all know how that turned out...

I'm not saying Cam is gonna be JaMarcus 2.0...just that a media workout isn't gonna tell you if the guy is worth a top 10 pick or not.

What makes QBs great can't be measured just in arm strength and 40 times...it's mostly intangible. There's no drill in the world that'll demonstrate that...if there were, Tom Brady would have been a 1st round pick and JaMarcus would have been a 6th rounder instead of the other way around.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 11, 2011 10:57 AM | Report abuse

In assessing Rogers' worth, it's important to FIRST ask the question: what does an open pack of Skittles and a shot of 5 Hour Energy go for nowadays?

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 11, 2011 10:31 AM | Report abuse

Try 2 packs of Ho-Hos and a large vanilla milkshake for that blob!!!

He's worth a 1 year deal worth the veteran minimum, but stack the contract with incentives out the ying-yang! Make the tub of lard EARN IT!!!

His weight and lack of playing a full year are a problem, draft a decent replacement!!!!

DON'T SIGN THIS WHALE!!!

Posted by: monk811 | February 11, 2011 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Newton can: we know that.

And, btw, film study is such that scouts can tell is a quarterback is making reads and the right throws.

And from what we've heard and read, Newton has shown the ability to do both.

I doubt the guy is dumb just like last year I doubted Sam Bradford was 'brittle'.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 11, 2011 10:40 AM
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Let me point out that Sam Bradford may still prove to be brittle. Even the oft-injured Chad Pennington had the occasional full season without serious injury.

As for proof of Newton being able to read a defense is on the tape, I have to disagree. His offense at Auburn called for him to make, at most, two reads, and then pull the ball down to run.

I don't dispute the fact that the guy is a fantastic athlete, but I don't think he's plug-n-play in any NFL offense. The team that takes him will need to build an offense around him - kind of like what the Falcons did when Vick was there - and that is not what Shanahan wants to do. For all his talk of changing the scheme to fit the players, the one thing the lack of playing time for Davis has taught is that Shanny's offense isn't anywhere near as flexible as he led us to believe.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 11, 2011 10:56 AM

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 11, 2011 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Jason Reid was the old RI King.

But for leaving without a "G-byuh!," he's more like Rodney King.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 11, 2011 8:36 AM |

Jason Reid was a feeb. He was uniformly reviled on RI except for idiots like you. The best move he made during his tenure on RI was to slink away at the end, unloved and unwanted.

Posted by: ElDrano | February 11, 2011 10:59 AM | Report abuse

DON'T SIGN THIS WHALE!!!

Posted by: monk811 | February 11, 2011 10:58 AM

Give'em a shot!

SIGN THE WHALE!!!

Posted by: PlayAction | February 11, 2011 11:03 AM | Report abuse

DON'T SIGN THIS WHALE!!!

Posted by: monk811 | February 11, 2011 10:58 AM

Give'em a shot!

SIGN THE WHALE!!!

Posted by: PlayAction | February 11, 2011 11:03 AM
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More of this left hand sock puppet not knowing what the right hand sock puppet is doing. Come on guys, get your sock drawer in order!

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 11, 2011 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Note there are no star QBs there.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 11, 2011 10:49 AM |

I didn't say that acing the Lick makes you a star QB. It's more like one of the things on your list to check off to make sure you ain't getting no dud. McNabb scored like a 9 on the Lick. The dude has a million $$$ arm and a 10 cent brain. The Eagles drafted him #4 and he took them higher than they had any right to expect.

Posted by: ElDrano | February 11, 2011 11:06 AM | Report abuse

DON'T SIGN THIS WHALE!!!

Posted by: monk811 | February 11, 2011 10:58 AM

Give'em a shot!

SIGN THE WHALE!!!

Posted by: PlayAction | February 11, 2011 11:03 AM | Report abuse

ONLY SIGN THE OLD WHALE IF YOU ALSO SIGN A YOUNG WHALE!!!

Posted by: monk811 | February 11, 2011 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Can we not have any more cast-offs from other teams, please? I know we can't possibly address all of our needs through the draft in one year, but can we at least use those picks on key positions like NT? Please? And use FAs as short-term stop-gaps at 2nd-tier positions?

Please?

Posted by: freakzilla | February 11, 2011 11:07 AM | Report abuse

RSH

His offense at Auburn called for him to make, at most, two reads, and then pull the ball down to run.

Jimmy Claussen ran an NFL style attack at NOTRE DAME.

How did that help him?

Discuss.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 11, 2011 11:07 AM | Report abuse

DON'T SIGN THIS WHALE!!!

Posted by: monk811 | February 11, 2011 10:58 AM

Give'em a shot!

SIGN THE WHALE!!!

Posted by: PlayAction | February 11, 2011 11:03 AM

Sock puppet schizophrenia. Right hand doesn't know what the left hand is typing. This guy needs a long vacation, or more meds (Frak, can you help?).

If you give this whale a shot, make it with a harpoon.

Posted by: beep-beep | February 11, 2011 11:09 AM | Report abuse

I'd offer a 2 year contract at 4 mil a year and 2 mil a year guarenteed. It would be basically a slightly better than vet min but with some incentives. I'd also expect to be outbid by Houston and Dallas. Either way I'd still draft Jerral Powe in the second round of the NFL draft.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | February 11, 2011 11:09 AM | Report abuse

More of this left hand sock puppet not knowing what the right hand sock puppet is doing. Come on guys, get your sock drawer in order!

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 11, 2011 11:04 AM | Report abuse

We know exactly what we are doing, we just like throwing you guys off!!!

'One sock doesn't know what the other sock is doing' is kinda getting old, come up with a new saying guys!!!

DIVE ASS NERDS!!!

Posted by: monk811 | February 11, 2011 11:11 AM | Report abuse

He was uniformly reviled on RI except for idiots like you.


This comment is what happens when an azzhole meets a keyboard.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 11, 2011 11:12 AM | Report abuse

ElDrano....scored like a 9 on the Lick.

And after resting his jaws and throat muscles, he later earned a salty tasting 10.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 11, 2011 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Jimmy Claussen ran an NFL style attack at NOTRE DAME.

How did that help him?

Discuss.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 11, 2011 11:07 AM

I'm not discussing this.

Posted by: PlayAction | February 11, 2011 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 11, 2011 11:15 AM |

MsMoe - you being a chick and all (see below) perhaps you could advise the men on this here blog what they should do for their girfies on St V's day.

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You must think outside the box ... MistaMoe is really a chick!

Posted by: skinshaveaGM | February 5, 2011 6:09 PM |

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Posted by: ElDrano | February 11, 2011 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Jimmy Claussen ran an NFL style attack at NOTRE DAME.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 11, 2011 11:07 AM

Jimmy ran with a "bad crowd" ... Mel Kiper, Jr. and Vinnie Cerrato.

Posted by: dcsween | February 11, 2011 11:24 AM | Report abuse

F*ck...Valentine's Day...guess I'll be hitting the mall this weekend.

Posted by: PlayAction | February 11, 2011 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 11, 2011 11:15 AM |

Updating his doofus handle:

1. MistaMoeRon
2. MistaHoMoe
3. MistaMoeFo
4. MistaMoebyDick
5. MistaHoeMoe
6. MsMoe

Posted by: ElDrano | February 11, 2011 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Moe, I'm confused. Is your QB of the future Newton or Ponder or Bachelor #3?

My choices for the spot, in order of priority, would be:

1. Some sort of deal for Jay "Weak Heart" Culter,

2. Hugs, kisses, and bygones and another season with McNabb,

3. Grossman (default) and Kaepernick (where the future is NOT YET now) ... but I think we've been over this already.

Posted by: dcsween | February 11, 2011 11:29 AM | Report abuse

MistaMoebyDick

That's for giving everyone your pet name for it.

It's not big...just wide.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 11, 2011 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: ElDrano | February 11, 2011 11:27 AM

I heart Moe (almost as much as mrsmoe loves me!).

Posted by: dcsween | February 11, 2011 11:31 AM | Report abuse

from Slate.com

Dear Prudence:

Help! I Love My Boyfriend but He Never Satisfies Me Sexually.

signed,

Francobegbie/ElDrano


------------------------------------------

I would respond, but any guy who hurls the same insults under different screen names has more problems than an unsatisfying boyfreind, IMO.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 11, 2011 11:33 AM | Report abuse

F*ck...Valentine's Day...guess I'll be hitting the mall this weekend.

Posted by: PlayAction | February 11, 2011 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Oh man, I didn't want to go anywhere this weekend, why you dragging me out? The good thing about Valentine's Day is me getting to see your wife naked! I mean my wife!!!

It looks like the good fight today will be between Moe and Drano, make your bets now!

Posted by: monk811 | February 11, 2011 11:35 AM | Report abuse

It's not big...just wide.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 11, 2011 11:30 AM

Reminds me of London Fletcher's defense of his height, "Last time I checked, offensive linemen tried to make the running lane wide, not tall."

Posted by: dcsween | February 11, 2011 11:36 AM | Report abuse

haha awesome they brought in the one guy thats fatter then Ahay.
How did I know Rogers name was gonna end up in Ashburn, we just never learn...

Posted by: Stu27 | February 11, 2011 11:38 AM | Report abuse

monk811

It looks like the good fight today will be between Moe and Drano.

A fight is when two dudes are swinging.

I am.

Drano is choosing to bend over at the waist.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 11, 2011 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Dive Ass Camping Beeps, bring your sleeping bags!

Posted by: monk811 | February 11, 2011 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Dive Ass Camping Beeps, bring your sleeping bags!

Posted by: monk811 | February 11, 2011 11:41 AM | Report abuse

A 6'6 mike vick. More or less injures then the 6'0 mike vick???

Posted by: Stu27 | February 11, 2011 11:41 AM | Report abuse


Boy nothing says football like cap analysis.

Posted by: TheCork | February 11, 2011 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Out with the old, in with the young. No deal! C'mon, Cleveland dumped him!

Posted by: clandestinetomcat | February 11, 2011 12:04 PM | Report abuse

This is a great question about what Shaun Rogers is worth. This is where the Redskins always get burnt in free agency b/c they give guys to much guaranteed money. I like Rogers as a player, but at 32 and not getting much playing time in Cleveland last year is a little scary. I would give him a reasonable signing bonus and make the contract have incentive clauses that are tied to playing time and performance. You could even throw in another clause tied to the teams overall record.

Posted by: Beltwayboy7 | February 11, 2011 12:21 PM | Report abuse

"I'd offer a 2 year contract at 4 mil a year and 2 mil a year guarenteed."

I'm thinking a one year deal in that range.

Why?

What if he's not a good fit? He did have a solid first year in Cleveland at NT, but he can't stay healthy to save his life. They just want him to clog the middle and stop the run, not penetrate, so he doesn't have to be a great pass rusher.

I am betting he takes a 3 year deal somewhere in the above range. I wouldn't offer him more then 1 year. If you have to pony up an extra year, then do it and give him his money in the first year. Don't give him 3 years.

Again, the Redskins have few options with the lack of picks in this upcoming draft and have so many needs. There's not many options at NT for the 'Skins.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | February 11, 2011 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Bring back Stubby!!!

Posted by: fearturtle44 | February 11, 2011 12:45 PM | Report abuse

The redskins haven't signed Rodgers, there just maximizing there resources and checking every possible solutions to their needs. If the redskins do sign Rodgers it will be to an incentive laden contract, with little to no up front money. Just like every contract they've had players sign since they've (Shanny and Allen) got here. If they can't get him cheap (4 million a year with only 500k guaranteed, making him very expendable) they won't get him at all.

Ok, to point two. I here a lot of people talking about Cam Newton and his inability to read defenses (not going to lie, I probably started the issue awhile back Sorry Cam supporters.) However, I will say this, after looking at some of the championship game against Oregon tape again, he was forced to go to his second option and read the field a little more, which was an instant adjustment, not something they worked on all year.

I'll say this about the kid. he's two things I like, he's coachable and he has all the tools, to make all the runs and all the throws. I'm sorry guys but, Cam Newton after further review will not be a Jamarcus Russell, at very worse he'll be a Mark Sanchez and at very best he'll be a better Ben Roesthisburger (don't get caught up on race, he's really not a Vince Young in terms of tools and ability thats comparing apples to oranges.) Russell came to the NFL combine over weight and out of shape. That should've been a warning sign to all nfl teams right there. He shaped up during his individual workouts, but he went to his biggest job interview unprepared...if that didn't scream bust I really don't know what will.

Cam Newton, is going to go into the combine, faster than he was in college (yes he will be faster) and a better overall quarterback. It's because of this work ethic, he has the will to succeed in the nfl that Russell lacked it, who could never become anything in the nfl despite his immense talent due to his mental make up. I can kind of stomach the Redskins getting this guy (Cam Newton) after further review. But I still want Akeem Ayers, cause that kid is an amazing athlete.

Posted by: culprit59 | February 11, 2011 12:50 PM | Report abuse

JUST SAY NO TO RE-TREADS.

When the f are we gonna learn....?

Posted by: kone | February 11, 2011 1:16 PM | Report abuse

aging superstar: check

trying to get one last fat contract: check
was just cut by one of the worst teams in the nfl: check

350+ pounds: check

checkered past with off field issues: check

doesnt really even play the position we need him to play: check

had worst year of his career last year: check

wears #92: check

shocking similarities to a player we signed last year that was a horrific nightmare and will go down as one of the worst signings in the history of professional sports: check

Posted by: boselli77 | February 11, 2011 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Should the Redskins bring Rodgers into D.C. considering his gun history. After all this a city than ran Gilbert out of town.

I'm just saying...

Posted by: tcostant | February 11, 2011 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Leave Shaun Rodgers right where he is, this another cluster fu_k waiting to happen what is wrong with the people that run this team?

Posted by: dargregmag | February 11, 2011 2:03 PM | Report abuse

A famous 32-year-old former All-Pro, with off-field character issues, who had his last good year in 2008? Got to be worth an 8-figure signing bonus, right, Danny?

Posted by: jksesq1 | February 11, 2011 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Ndamukong Suh plays in Rogers old spot with the lions, am irritated that the Skins are even looking at this dude, he tanked up a couple of years ago, lets get young, its a young man's game not a grandpa's game. Am beginning to feel like Shanny has no clue.

Posted by: zimife1999 | February 11, 2011 4:30 PM | Report abuse

If the Redskins listened to some of you, we would cut any player over 25 and never sign another free agent, only play draft picks. Sure we will be the worst team in footbal when we have a bunch of 5th 6th and 7th round nobodys playing, but at least we will have the lowest payroll.

What don't you guys get? Snyder is not making personnel deciscions anymore. I hope Shanahan/Allen check out every free agent they think might be able to help the team improve. We need to spend, just don't overspend on one or two guys.

Posted by: kerrdawg | February 11, 2011 5:08 PM | Report abuse

No more cast-offs please. Sure hope the 'Skins are smart enough not to let Moss get away.

Posted by: seaduck2001 | February 11, 2011 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Shaun Rogers is Haynesworth Junior in bad attitude and all round stupidity.

This should turn out well.

Posted by: johnmarshall5446 | February 11, 2011 10:43 PM | Report abuse

Hire deadbeats for a Haslett loser defense. WE aren't close to Green bay when they were a year out of changing to the 3-4. Keep drinking the dan's urine green kool aid. He laughs to the bank while you wish for the glory that was.

He sign Haloti Ngata 6 years for now for Peyton dollars.

Our record will be:

7-11.

Laugh, I was 20 when the Skins won the last SB.

I will be 40 on the 27th.


Posted by: tomass169 | February 12, 2011 1:31 AM | Report abuse

Am I missing somthing. Why are we even talking about this guy. We dont need another old man 34 going on 35 playing here. We need 20s somthing young men that can be taught how to play the game and not be waste of time. We dont need any players over 32 in most of the Redskins postions (not all) but most. Come on. Management"" This is why most of us Fans are losing what interst we have for you and the team.

Posted by: awebb004 | February 12, 2011 11:51 AM | Report abuse

I don't know Shawn Rogers, he may be the exception to the rule; but typically, these over 30 year old players aren't looking for one last opportunity to play their best, but looking for one last opportnity to bank some big coin. I'd rather lose the exception, then bring falsely movitavted older players to the team. The fact that Cleveland cut him straight out gives me reason to pause.

Posted by: Skin4Life1 | February 12, 2011 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Let's see a 31 Year old slot receiver that can't seem to get open like he used too? How much is he worth? Let him find out in Free Agency and then we will know...

And we don't need no old NT that can't even carry Fat Al's jock strap.

Posted by: TKing1 | February 12, 2011 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Old, overweight defensive lineman reputed to have work ethic problems? $100M, more or less. Any way we can give up some draft picks for him while we're at it?

Posted by: jburnetti | February 14, 2011 10:26 PM | Report abuse

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