Redskins trade Dennis Morris to Rams

I was thinking they'd find a way to IR the guy

I can't believe the Rams gave us anything for a guy who'd be cut in 24 hours.

Haha at least we got something. Weighing in on McNabb....he will be fine for Dallas. It is 2 weeks away. A mild sprain does not take 3 weeks to heal. This is all a media over reaction to a shifty answer Shanahan gave.

Bryant? Bryant? I dunno - was he any good?

others beats on twitter saying conditional draft pick...so if he makes their swuad prolly a 7th...

Why not? The Ravens gave us a QB for a 6th string CB.

Bryant? Bryant? I dunno - was he any good?

Ugh, MK12 with hammy setback...

What a shame. His only hope is to be IR'ed.

Moss, Thomas, Galloway, Armstrong, Williams, Banks.

Austin to the PS.

Conditional pick for De Mo... not bad... just got a "do over" in 2011 for a guy who wasn't gonna make the team. Sweet.

Anybody think vinny gets that done?

I always thought this was a head-scratching draft pick.

The last thing this team needed was more TEs/H-backs (whichever variation you prefer).

Some random thoughts on Kelly's injury:

Is it worth putting Kelly on the PUP list?

Who benefits from Kelly's injury , Roydell? Banks?

Do the Skins carry 5 opening up a spot of a bubble guy like Jarmon?

Wonder why the Rams would trade for a guy who was probably going to get cut in a few weeks?

On extremeskins.com, posters are saying the trade is for a rookie DE/LB named Hall Davis. But nothing is confirmed.

Does Kelly go to IR for his hammy, or is it sayonara?

Why can't this guy strech his hammies out?

MK reinjuries hammy. Two words for MK...Injured Reserve.

I'm thinking DT11 is crushed by this MK12 news.

"I can't believe the Rams gave us anything for a guy who'd be cut in 24 hours."

Posted by: diesel_skins_ | August 30, 2010 1:34 PM

These are the Rams, after all. I'm thinking the compensation is a 6th or 7th round pick, conditioned on Morris making the final roster.

Time to vut him now...too bad for Malcolm, but it makes our decisions easier.

Tweeted by Keim:

"Shanahan: worst thing people do is keep a draft pick just to keep a draft pick."

I guess he's talking about DMo...same logic should apply to MK.

Yeah Devin Thomas is heart broken. MK12 is done for. Now there are no worries about him making the team and not putting in the reps. At least we know a hard worker will make the team in his stead.

Kelly is not eligible for PUP; to be eligible you cannot practice at all during camp or preseason.

I had Kelly in a battle with Williams and Wade for the final WR spot. Banks and Austin are fighting for the KR/PR spot. I suppose one of them could beat out Williams and Wade for that final WR spot (meaning both Banks and Austin would make the final roster, with the 2nd guy being a KR/PR), but they'd have to do it on merit as a WR. Not sure that will happen.

Malcolm Kelly was carried off the field by teammates in this mornings practice in what he being called a "significant" pull sounds like he shredded his hammy stick a fork in the china doll A.K.A Malcolm Kelly what a waste of a pick

Yea, "didn't impress" is an understatement. I heard he would block clinton portis on running plays and on pass plays would run as fast as he could out of bounds then call for the ball. He was still better than Brandon Lloyd though.

Definitely feel bad for MK12. Just was not meant to be. I hope that he can catch on with another team, preferably not in the NFC East.

Nice to see professionals running the show at Redskins Park.

Guess it's bye, bye to Kelly. Time to move on...

Yea, "didn't impress" is an understatement. I heard he would block clinton portis on running plays and on pass plays would run as fast as he could out of bounds then call for the ball. He was still better than Brandon Lloyd though.

The trade actually occurred Sunday, according to the league source who said he was unaware of what the Redskins received in exchange for Morris.

Damn, how I hate league sources.

If Kelly is cut, I bet he gets picked up quickly by another team.

Dude needs to just take some time off and get some serious hammy therapy. Just stretch 'em until he can put his heels on the crown of his head.

Maybe next year he'll produce.

Re: MK12

Bad knees. Bad hammies. Bad breaks. Bad pick.

Kelly is done. He'll be out of town in whatever the lowest cost route.

As for trading DMo, I love it when a coach trades a guy who isn't going to make the team for a 7th round pick or some guy who might help. Get some value. If you do this consistently, eventually you'll get something for nothing.

Malcolm Kelly was carried off the field by teammates in this mornings practice in what he being called a "significant" pull sounds like he shredded his hammy stick a fork in the china doll A.K.A Malcolm Kelly what a waste of a pick

I definitely feel for Kelly too. It sucks getting injured and not being able to play. It's best for the team though.

Good luck in the future Kelly.

I can't believe the Rams gave us anything for a guy who'd be cut in 24 hours.

Posted by: diesel_skins_ | August 30, 2010 1:34 PM

They're thinking the same thing about the guy that they gave us. But 'Skins may have had an offer of a ham sandwich from another team so Rams had to trade a meatloaf sandwich. All the GM's working six phones right now to trade salami sandwiches for baloney sandwiches.

My guess is Brandon Banks is breathing alot easier, now.

Looks like the trade is for a conditional pick, not a player.

skins receive Hall Davis a 5th round DE/LB in trade for D-MO

twisi

"Some random thoughts on Kelly's injury: Is it worth putting Kelly on the PUP list?"

I hate how the NFL administers the Injured Reserve list.

I mean, just because a guy is injured in August doesn't mean he can't heal by October and play in November.

The league should go to a MLB type Disabled List where guys are out for 30, 60, and 45 days.

That way, once a guy is healthy, he can play, and not sit out the season.

Injured reserve rules were intended to stop teams from stashing players.

But if the season is to be lengthened, teams should have all the right to play any player on its roster, shouldn't it?

This is a change that needs to come.

Does anyone know what we got for Morris, please say it's a draft pick.

"I'm very concerned about running the ball. How do we know if it's a problem with our geriatric RBs or if it's the run blocking or both?"

I'm not. We ran pretty well against Buffalo, the Ravens and the Jets were nos. 1 and 4 in fewest yards per rushing attempt surrendered last season, and our O-line is trying to integrate three new starters. With time, some opponents with less formidable rushing defenses, and pruning some of the dead wood at RB (i.e., Johnson and/or Parker), our running game should turn out to be a strength, as it usually is with Shanahan's teams.

fwiw, I liked the DMo pick. In round 7, Shanahan tried to accomplish something sueful And maybe he did.

Even though DMo has gone elsewhere, I think Shanahan sent a message to Mike Sellers -- Sellers, your job isn't safe.

We'll see if Sellers has a better year, but if DMo lit a fire under Big Mike, there's value in that

Wait, did someone claim Jarmon was on the bubble?

"I'm very concerned about running the ball. How do we know if it's a problem with our geriatric RBs or if it's the run blocking or both?"

Our oline has to get more experience playing together.

It really isn't the RB's fault as much as it is lack of holes and good defense.
By week four, barring injuries, the oline should be able to run on the left side substantially better than it does now, I reckon.

5th rounder Hall Davis DE/LB

Wait, did someone claim Jarmon was on the bubble?

Posted by: alex35332 | August 30, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse

He's been playing in the 4th quarter of preseason games with the guys that will be driving trucks, serving fries and selling IPad covers at a mall kiosk in a month.

If that doesn't say "bubble", I don't know what does.

-P

5th rounder Hall Davis DE/LB

Posted by: TimmySmith36 | August 30, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Interesting. Is he more "LB" or more "DE".

We could use some guys that fall more on "LB" side of the equation to develop into 3-4 OLBs.

Again, So long as the Depth Chart at RB reads

1. Portis, Clinton
2A. Williams, Keiland
2B. Torain, Ryan
3. ?

I think we will be okay.

Really? I thot Jarmon Wholewheat looked good vs. Jotz. I realize we're kinda thick over there - but I thot he was kinda studley.

Now I see Hall Davis' name listed on the post. Was this an update, or did i read it too fast. Is the trade is for a conditional pick or for Davis or both?

sheesh....i said:

[i think] DT and MK [will] make the team...based on...you got it...that apparently dirty word, "potential". obviously, imo, DT is a much safer bet to make the team. how many catches must MK have on thursday for you folks to say he should make the team? i mean, it's not like any of our receivers (other than maybe armstrong, and banks as a returner) have really "seized the day."

i emphasize that i think we've got to give these guys a chance under shanahan&shanahan coaching. remember they've been laboring under less-than-ideal coaching for their whole pro careers. MK has been injured for all of camp...so...shanahan&shanahan haven't had much chance to "coach him up".

nonetheless, if shanahan&shanahan decide they've seen enough of MK and cut him, it would be disappointing, but i'd trust they're more knowledgeable than i, and interested in the same thing: the best redskins possible.

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | August 30, 2010 12:55 PM
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uh....nevermind.

i predict MK will not make the team... and i predict the sun will rise tomorrow...

so does anybody know the IR rules? is there a limit to the number of players a team can put on IR?

Kelly beeps

Wait, did someone claim Jarmon was on the bubble?

Posted by: alex35332 | August 30, 2010 2:04 PM

I did. He's been playing only in the 4th quarter the last two games. He hasn't had a good camp by most accounts. Given Shanny's statement about not holding onto draft picks that he doesn't forsee helping the team, I'd say Jarmon is on the bubble. The question with Jarmon is that since he's gone through so much body change this off season, while rehabbing an injury, will he be of some help to the team on he's comfortable playing at his new weight and his knee strenghtens? We shall see what Shanny thinks soon enough.

He's been playing in the 4th quarter of preseason games with the guys that will be driving trucks, serving fries and selling IPad covers at a mall kiosk in a month.

If that doesn't say "bubble", I don't know what does.

-P

Posted by: p1funk | August 30, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Well that would be a shock, and a wast of a lot of effort.

Hall Davis, who is rumored to be the player we got in exchange for Morris, got 2 sacks vs. cleveland in the second week of preseason. If this guy turns out to be any good, the skins it seems are fleecing the rams of good players (Carriker).

http://www.nfl.com/players/halldavis/profile?id=DAV361006

http://www.turfshowtimes.com/2010/4/24/1441577/rams-add-hall-davis-with-149th-pick

http://dc.sbnation.com/2010/8/30/1658719/dennis-morris-trade-rams-redskins-tight-end-draft

Shanny said that Morris wasn't going to make the team anyway.

Hall Davis is a pass-rusher project-type player. Struggles in coverage.

I thought we had this sort of pure pass rusher in Andre Carter, which means it looks like we picked up someone who plays the way a current player does...is Andre Carter on the trading block soon? Someone, due to either injury or poor performance, will need a 4-3 pass rusher soon and we can spare Carter if Lo and others can take up the slack which frankly doesn't seem to be too tough.

Photo of Hall Davis

Hall Davis (DE)

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Arm Length:
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Hand Size:
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Louisiana-Lafayette
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Sun Belt

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Pick Analysis: The Rams nab a defensive end with good athleticism and upside with the selection of Hall Davis. The former basketball player has intriguing physical tools, and could develop into a legitimate pass rusher in time. He is an interesting prospect for the Rams to groom for a bigger role in the future.

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Davis was a two-year starter with solid production in college. He has a good combination of size, strength and athleticism for the position. He is a tough, hardnosed player with power to hold the point versus the run as well as the ability to push the pocket. He has good first-step quickness to gain leverage but isn't a natural reactor as plays unfold. Davis runs well but lacks lateral quickness and agility in space. He is an inconsistent tackler who has natural pop but doesn't always break down in the open field. Davis has tools to build on but lacks great instincts and likely will take time to develop.

Quick comment on the reason for both of these trades.

First of all, as many posters have already figured out this was ecentially a trade of one borderline rookie for another and the reason it was organized as two separate trades was because the conditional draft picks are based on whether or not each guy makes the team.

I say "team" because I would not be surprised in the conditional draft pick includes signing the guy to your Practice Squad. Which leads me to my next point...

The reason for making trades like this is that the new cut dates/numbers mean only 5 guys per team will be cut this week and with so many young guys being cut at the end of the preseason it makes it much toughter to decide on your Pratice Squad. These trades give the teams a chance to see a young guy in a preseason game and evaluate him up-close. Barring some type of breakout performance Hall Davis will likely not be on the 53-man roster, but they may want to keep him on the PS.

Wait, did someone claim Jarmon was on the bubble?

Posted by: alex35332 | August 30, 2010 2:04 PM

He's been playing in the 4th quarter of preseason games with the guys that will be driving trucks, serving fries and selling IPad covers at a mall kiosk in a month.

If that doesn't say "bubble", I don't know what does.

-P

Posted by: p1funk | August 30, 2010 2:08 PM

Lots of reporters are running with this story, too. But, the type of knee injury that Jarmon is recovering from (tore multiple ligaments) usually takes at least 10 months to completely bounce back from. He has been wearing a bulky knee brace most of camp. Not only is he a young talented guy, but I would think that most of the coaches understand that a few weeks into the season you will be happy to have a recovered Jeremy Jarmon rather than another vet starting to wear down.

I think on cut day he will be this year's suprise keeper like Tryon was last season.

is it just me or am I the only one excited for what anthony armstrong has been doing? I know it's only preseason, but he's one of the best looking player on the O right now...

Conditional pick for De Mo... not bad... just got a "do over" in 2011 for a guy who wasn't gonna make the team. Sweet.

Anybody think vinny gets that done?

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | August 30, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Exactly and (although I know it was a rhetorical quesiton) hell no does VC get that deal done. Also like the pick up of Davis. A do-over as you said for Morris and we get some needed depth at LB. If this guy can challenge for real time, this will have been a steal. But the real shocker of the day - Malcolm Kelly is hurt?? What's next - we're gonna land on the moon??