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Westbrook-McNabb reunion with Redskins isn't foreseeable

It's difficult to foresee a scenario in which Brian Westbrook is reunited with Donovan McNabb in Washington.

Aside from the fact that the Redskins already have three of the top running backs from 2006 -- plus favorable reports from the first two minicamps about Clinton Portis, Larry Johnson and Willie Parker -- the Wednesday meeting between Bruce Allen and Westbrook, the former Eagles' running back, sure looks like there's a heavy dose on convenience involved.


Well before news surfaced today that Westbrook would be meeting with the Redskins, the two were scheduled to share the stage at Springarn High on Wednesday, speaking to 175 area high school football players as part of the NFL High School Player Development program. It's an annual gathering, run by DeMatha Coach Bill McGregor, and the national program reaches 20,000 young players a year. Edwin Williams, a DeMatha product, is also scheduled to attend, but both Allen and Westbrook were approached long ago about addressing the high school student-athletes.

It's easy to envision a scenario in which the Redskins are asked to chat with Westbrook, who hasn't drummed up much interest thus far in free agency. Time will tell, but given the circumstances, the fact that the Redskins are meeting with Westbrook isn't shocking. Signing him would be.

By Rick Maese  |  May 11, 2010; 2:35 PM ET
Categories:  Running backs  
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Comments

First,to say,hmmmm....

Posted by: hbu_dog | May 11, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

34th to vote, first to post!

Posted by: Predator48 | May 11, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

3rdndst....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | May 11, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Westbrook is All-Universe and this is coming from a staunch Philly hater. But he has taken more hits than Heidi Fleiss, he should retire before he ends up punch drunk for the rest of his life.

Posted by: biffgrifftheoneandonly | May 11, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Another payer using the Skins as means to increase their asking price. See Clifton, Chad. Really can't see it happening unless the team is unhappy with Parker, who I would think would be the designated 3rd down back out the three old timers on the team.

Posted by: TWISI | May 11, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

I don't know about you all, but just the thought of me losing my job due to lack of production is more than enough to get me focused.

Posted by: RedDMV | May 11, 2010 11:08 AM |

Heh, heh. Your tax $$$ at work. 4 hrs of work, 4 hrs posting on RI. And it's just two hours of real work because the old bulb ain't burning very bright. Heh, heh.

Posted by: ElDrano | May 11, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

"...sure looks like there's a heavy dose on convenience involved."

are heavy doses of convenience legal?

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 11, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

It's easy to envision a scenario in which the Redskins are asked to chat with Westbrook...

By Rick Maese | May 11, 2010; 2:35 PM ET

If Dan and Vinny were still running the show, an invitation to Redskins Park would have raised his salary demands around the league by 30% and drawn snickers from all the League Sources. Now, it just draws snickers, and not the good kind of Snickers.

Posted by: beep-beep | May 11, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Jon Kitna has flubbed more opportunities than a eunuch at the Playboy mansion.

Posted by: MistaMoe

If your talking about a eunuch, can those really be considered 'opportunities'?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 11, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

"Aside from the fact that the Redskins already have three of the top running backs from 2006..." - Rick Maese


Most would say that's the problem.


While they're at it, why don't they bring in Tiki Barber, Travis Henry and Rudi Johnson for a look-see?


Can't have enough '06 beasting backs on the roster.

Posted by: RedDMV | May 11, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Fresh off of PFT

Russell, Redskins talk position switch
Posted by Mike Florio on May 11, 2010 2:15 PM ET

Jamarcus Russell, the top overall pick in the 2007 NFL Draft, is talking to the Washington Redskins about signing with the team to play on the offensive line, according to sources with knowledge of the situation.
The 300-pound Russell was released by the Oakland Raiders after a return of only seven wins in 25 starts over three years on an investment of $39 million.
The Redskins believe Russell's big lower body and footwork will help him become an outstandig lineman, according to a source close to the discussions.

Read more here.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 11, 2010 3:13 PM

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 11, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Is it me or is this place dead.... is any1 else hungry?

Posted by: GOmellyDOTcom | May 11, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse

And it has begun.

2pm ET, Bob Bradley announced the preliminary 30-man US World Cup training camp roster.

The most improbable success since the Miracle on Ice has officially commenced.
Get ready to celebrate in the streets come early July like you've never done so before. Imagine College Park after the National Championship in 2002, only epidemically spread out nationwide.

The World Cup is approaching...

Posted by: psps23 | May 11, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

nice, lh.....let it marinate for a bit...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | May 11, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO B'West!!! Just say no to those Racist Uniforms. You'll always be an Eagle!!! In fact you still should be. BTW - Don't make me laugh with that All-Pro backfield stuff, Ohh.. OK I got ya - 2004 All-Pro Backfield
Posted by: Dog11 | May 11, 2010 2:50 PM |

Oh you dirty troll, you…….way to stir things up.
Dude, you’re like the 36th person to say this up here today, and the first 35 were Skins fans.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | May 11, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

you can't marinade it until you've caught it.

let's see what happens.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 11, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

The World Cup is approaching...

Posted by: psps23

And in other news Reggie Bush was seen eating a five dollar foot long at Subway today.

Who cares?


Let me know when whomever is able to over come that insurmountable 1-0 deficit.

Posted by: RedDMV | May 11, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

NAAAAAAAAhhhhhh, Gaaaahhhhhhnaaaaaa, Haaaapppin

Posted by: Corvis777 | May 11, 2010 3:28 PM | Report abuse

uncapped year...not drawing much interest...i think if he comes cheap and is fine with situational play and depth...what the hell....and high level competition at RB insures us a hell of a season rushing the damn ball.

Posted by: leevi98 | May 11, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

No Duh, You need to be a running RB not a pass catching RB in shnny's scheme. A banger with toughness. B Westbrook is a scat back past, way past his prime. at the most he's a 3rd down back at best. He was never a great blocker either. Is mike williams still being considered a starter? Good for him hopefully it works out and he has enough quickness left because he's HUGE.

Posted by: sthai75 | May 11, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Why not bring him in? I really don't see any harm in it.

He can do punts and kickoffs as well.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | May 11, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

I really wish we would have drafted LeGarrette Blount

Posted by: iH8dallas | May 11, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

The 300-pound Russell was released by the Oakland Raiders after a return of only seven wins in 25 starts over three years on an investment of $39 million.
The Redskins believe Russell's big lower body and footwork will help him become an outstandig lineman, according to a source close to the discussions.

Read more here.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 11, 2010 3:13 PM

*stunned* (clicks link)

(sees video)

(falls on floor)

LMAO!!!

Posted by: RedCherokee | May 11, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

I really wish we would have drafted LeGarrette Blount

Posted by: iH8dallas | May 11, 2010 3:39 PM

No team in the league was willing to waste a pick on him. He said he would sign with the Niners but backed out and signed with the Titans. We can pick him up when the Titans cut him. This man will never play a down in the NFL.

Posted by: beep-beep | May 11, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

I still stand my ground...
Get rid of Portis....lockeroom canser,memories of(High Profile)players that cotributed poorly to the rest of the team. Relations w/Snyder, a sore spot amongst the team(NO MATTER WHAT ANYONE SAYS)
Pick up Westbrook and you have all that talent(utilization)amongst H.P.-running backs,freshlooks and attitude. No bad leftover karma.....SIGN WESTBROOK.....we'll protect those two concussions!!!!!!

Posted by: briannalynn21 | May 11, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

"I'm not a baby, I am a man! I am an Anchorman!"

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | May 11, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Whats better than having 1 rb with a head made of glass u ask....having 2 rbs with both heads made of glass.

Posted by: kickass10101 | May 11, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Hey, as long as we're pulling "face of the franchise" NFC East players, maybe Hayneworth can fetch us Marion Barber from the Cowpies or Brandon Jacobs from the Gints.

I guess both of them are too young still, let's get 'em after they hit 30.

Maybe we trade Haynesworth straight up for Osi Umenyiora, I hear he's disgruntled too.

I must be the only one opposed to chasing all these aging NFC East players... might as well ask Emmitt Smith and Troy Aikman to join the team.

Posted by: Alan4 | May 11, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

good catch, learnedhand...

to really set the hook after the nibble, you might try rickrolling on the link.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 11, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

"Who cares?

Posted by: RedDMV"

A rough guess would be appropriate at about 3 billion people.

Hey Red, attend any Nats or Orioles games lately? I'd love to hear a description of the riveting 90 seconds between pitches following a 2-1 count in the 4th inning after the game has been going on for 2 hours while you sit in a stadium that's as densely populated as North Dakota.

Posted by: psps23 | May 11, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

I really wish we would have drafted LeGarrette Blount

Posted by: iH8dallas

why, no one else did. could have signed him as a FA without using a pick

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 11, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Why not bring him in? I really don't see any harm in it.
He can do punts and kickoffs as well.
- Ray
Posted by: rmcazz | May 11, 2010 3:35 PM

OK, so I voted against him being signed. But in thinking about it, if you bring him in as a returner that is allowed to compete for RB, what is the harm? In his limited returns, he seems to have done ok.

BMitch's best were 14.1 for punts and 25.6 for kickoffs and he averaged 10.8 and 23.1 for his career. He was productive up through his 13th year. BW averaged 12.8 and 21.2. That said, he hasn't done any returns since 2007 but he is 'only' in his 9th year.

Posted by: amaranthpa | May 11, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Russell, Redskins talk position switch
Posted by Mike Florio on May 11, 2010 2:15 PM ET

Jamarcus Russell, the top overall pick in the 2007 NFL Draft, is talking to the Washington Redskins about signing with the team to play on the offensive line, according to sources with knowledge of the situation.
The 300-pound Russell was released by the Oakland Raiders after a return of only seven wins in 25 starts over three years on an investment of $39 million.
The Redskins believe Russell's big lower body and footwork will help him become an outstandig lineman, according to a source close to the discussions.

Read more here.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 11, 2010 3:13 PM

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 11, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse
_____

I thought Beantown Greg had the job of cutting and pasting from PFT....

Posted by: skinsfan713 | May 11, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 11, 2010 4:05 PM

Zeke- I was wrong about the ROY voting, they only count the 1st place votes. They are looking into changing it to the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc. voting format.

The old woman beep-beep who is still full of piss and vinegar was nice enough to do the research.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 11, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Reading between the lines on Shanny's Haynesworth comment: "The fat slob is the only no show. We tried to trade him, but couldn't get any value for him. He's a big, lazy oaf."

Posted by: randysbailin | May 9, 2010 10:27 AM

This one took me a while to stop laughing.

Posted by: RedCherokee | May 11, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Its 3rd down BW lines up as HB, LJ lines up as FB. They both split out to opposite sides for a backfield catch. This could be tough for a defense to account for. Thats assuming they both can still play, big assumption.

Willie Parker runs into the backup o-lineman as hes standing on the sidelines.

Posted by: Stu27 | May 11, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Doug Williams is out in Tampa
Posted by Mike Florio on May 11, 2010 4:16 PM ET
Several media outlets report that former NFL quarterback Doug Williams, the MVP of Super Bowl XXII, has left the Buccaneers. He has served most recently as coordinator of pro personnel.

The news comes both from Steve Duemig of WDAE and PewterReport.com. Per Duemig, the Bucs are in the process of restructuring the front office.

Williams previously served as head coach at Grambling from 1998 through 2003. He reportedly interviewed at Southern University and South Florida before signing a one-year deal to return to the Bucs for 2010.

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 11, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Sorry...But DJack is a b!tch...

Jackson: Mornhinweg questioned my toughness after concussion
Posted by Michael David Smith on May 11, 2010 3:47 PM ET
Philadelphia Eagles wide receiver DeSean Jackson says that after he suffered a concussion during the 2009 season, offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg questioned his toughness and pressured him to return to the field.

"I can remember we went up to New York [Week 14] - that was a huge game for us," Jackson told Sporting News. "The week before, [the Giants had] beaten Dallas and I didn't play [at Atlanta] because I had a concussion. It was iffy if I'd come back and play. Our offensive coordinator, Marty Mornhinweg, said some things, trying to question my toughness. I was like, 'Coach, I just got a concussion. This [is] my brain. If it's anything else, my shoulder, whatever, I'm going to play.'"

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 11, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

The old woman beep-beep who is still full of piss and vinegar was nice enough to do the research.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 11, 2010 4:13 PM |

Time for you to get some new stuff, Diesel44. You got three things: F Duke, Old, woman. That's it. After 300 repetitions,it's about as clever as a pair of dirty socks. Go work on it.

Posted by: beep-beep | May 11, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 11, 2010 4:23 PM

I don’t like the kid, but I would cut anyone some slack with concussions….plus he watched his teammate (Westbrook) try to come back too early from one and turned right back into Batman…..(old snickers commercial reference).

Posted by: dlhaze1 | May 11, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 11, 2010 4:23 PM

DJack can mouth off, but I respect this.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 11, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Insurance policy fer future..In case Johnson hits the Full Moon with the Hair Of The Dawg..

Posted by: frak | May 11, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Zeke- I was wrong about the ROY voting, they only count the 1st place votes. They are looking into changing it to the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc. voting format.

The old woman beep-beep who is still full of piss and vinegar was nice enough to do the research.

Posted by: Diesel44

I guess they'll re-vote it. Seems dumb to me. After all, Cushing played the games and made the plays he made. They're not taking anything away from what he did on the field in 2009 and they're not making Houston forfeit games because of it.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 11, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

I'd rather have Westbrook than Parker on the roster based on skillset alone but I'd prefer to see Westbrook retire.

The way he is picking up concussions is worrying. For the good of his long-term health he needs to stop now.

Posted by: WeNeedLinemen | May 11, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

I can see if you had like your 4th or 5th concussion....but your 1st?

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 11, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Hey Red, attend any Nats or Orioles games lately? I'd love to hear a description of the riveting 90 seconds between pitches following a 2-1 count in the 4th inning after the game has been going on for 2 hours while you sit in a stadium that's as densely populated as North Dakota.

Posted by: psps23


Good one.

What's the over/under on how many players will get carried off the due to a vagina bruise?

My guess is 15.

Through the first round.

Posted by: RedDMV | May 11, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: beep-beep | May 11, 2010 4:26 PM

F Duke, you old woman. Now go wash your socks.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 11, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

*off the field

Posted by: RedDMV | May 11, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Brian Westbrook?

Whatever...give him a non-guaranteed million and throw him on the heap with all the others. See who makes it out of camp.

Jared Gaither is going to be on the move. Buffalo looks like the front-runner. Wondering if Dallas is really going to settle with Barron/Free at LT or if they get in a bid...

Posted by: p1funk | May 11, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Good one.
What's the over/under on how many players will get carried off the due to a vagina bruise?
My guess is 15.
Through the first round.
Posted by: RedDMV | May 11, 2010 4:31 PM

I think I just figured out why Haynesworth won’t report…..he’s on the US soccer team. If he’s not on the team he’s at least consulting them on how to get a stoppage of play.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | May 11, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Doug Williams is out in Tampa
Posted by Mike Florio on May 11, 2010 4:16 PM ET
Several media outlets report that former NFL quarterback Doug Williams, the MVP of Super Bowl XXII, has left the Buccaneers. He has served most recently as coordinator of pro personnel.

The news comes both from Steve Duemig of WDAE and PewterReport.com. Per Duemig, the Bucs are in the process of restructuring the front office.

Williams previously served as head coach at Grambling from 1998 through 2003. He reportedly interviewed at Southern University and South Florida before signing a one-year deal to return to the Bucs for 2010.

Posted by: suliman215 | May 11, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 11, 2010 4:31 PM

Why does he have to wait until he's had his 4th or 5th concussion? At that point, it's too late. You may already have suffered permanent neurocognitive damage.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 11, 2010 4:40 PM | Report abuse

I really wish we would have drafted LeGarrette Blount

Posted by: iH8dallas


No. They don't need "thugs" on the team.

The backfield would've consisted of a sloth, a homophobe, and a thug.

Posted by: RedDMV | May 11, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

"If he’s not on the team he’s at least consulting them on how to get a stoppage of play.

Posted by: dlhaze1"

I said this about 20 times last year. Haynesworth is game-savvy. When the offense is in a flow, lay your butt on the ground and get the defense a rest.

It's strategy. Dude knows what he's doing out there when he "needs" a trainer on the field.

Posted by: psps23 | May 11, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

... After all, Cushing played the games and made the plays he made. ...

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 11, 2010 4:31 PM

... on juice. If he's using something that no one else is allowed to use, then that's technically cheating.

Posted by: dcsween | May 11, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

While I am all for Brian Westbrook coming in, can somebody tell me how in the world his brother Byron is still on this roster?
For 3 years I never see him during the regular season, but yet there always seem to be a roster spot for him in the offseason. Posted by: Predator48 |

How can you forget Byron W. getting shoved into ARE on a punt return and then getting hit by the ball causing a turnover. Mental Note: Head on a swivel!!

Posted by: mrlowery1 | May 11, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

I said this about 20 times last year. Haynesworth is game-savvy. When the offense is in a flow, lay your butt on the ground and get the defense a rest.
It's strategy. Dude knows what he's doing out there when he "needs" a trainer on the field.
Posted by: psps23 | May 11, 2010 4:42 PM |

Couldn’t agree more with that. I even said something yesterday about how his “antics” don’t bother me until the refs start flagging him.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | May 11, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Soccer players and Haynesworth do have one thing in common: Malingering


But seeing how soft soccer players are, they'll get a concussion and a pulled hamstring just from Hayensworth mean-mugging them from across the field.

Posted by: RedDMV | May 11, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

You'll never see a fat soccer player

One month away from the greatest sporting event in the world.

I hope Onyewu makes the final cut...I dunno how serious his knee injury is.

If Davies makes it back from a broken femur, it'll be a miracle.

Posted by: Vicc | May 11, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

^^^Bammas was getting concussions and still playing in games....I remember getting these same symptons playing football and once you shook it off you were back in the game...or still playing while recollecting your thoughts.

I ain't never heard of before this season, people taking 2/3 games off for a concussion. CP26 took off because the season was over...but his was unique as he seemed to get a double concussion and he had no memory.

But, I think some people are using this to their advantage...DJack included...I know I am in the small minority on this...but I this just how I feel...How you gonna call out your current OC for poking you? That's big disrespect....Some stuff you keep inhouse....To me he just a taddle-teller....

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 11, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

... After all, Cushing played the games and made the plays he made. ...

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 11, 2010 4:31 PM

... on juice. If he's using something that no one else is allowed to use, then that's technically cheating.

Posted by: dcsween | May 11, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse


Apparently Cushing got busted with slightly elevated levels of the same stuff that Manny tested positive for - some woman's fertility hormone typically used to jumpstart the body's production of a hormone it needs when you cycle off of a steroid.

He failed the test in Septemeber, but then tested clean every time throughout the rest of the year.

Technically it's not a PED, but it is used in conjunction with a PED and there's no earthly reason why a man would ever have elevated levels of this hormone in their body unless they are (1) testing out a woman's fertility drug or (2) juicing.

Put the pieces together and it looks like Cushing was juicing at some point in the offseason/preseason and then stopped, tried to get his hormones right at some point, but didn't manage to get all the traces out of his bloodstream in time before he had to take a test.

Posted by: p1funk | May 11, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

One month away from the greatest sporting event in the world.

Posted by: Vicc | May 11, 2010 4:51 PM

Get a grip man. Super Bowl's not until next February.

Posted by: beep-beep | May 11, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Here is what I never got about keeping lil Westbrook on the roster.

For 3 seasons his job was to play a little corner and impersonate his brother when we play the eagles.

Considering that BBW was a thorn in the skins side for years, and that LBW was apparently doing a decent job pretending to be BBW... why did we not change his position to RB and use him as a backfield screen back???

Posted by: alex35332 | May 11, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

I really wish we would have drafted LeGarrette Blount

Posted by: iH8dallas


No. They don't need "thugs" on the team.

The backfield would've consisted of a sloth, a homophobe, and a thug.

Posted by: RedDMV | May 11, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse


I always thought it would have been funny that if LeGarrette Blount came to the Skins, his NFL "mentors" would have been Clinton Portis and Larry Johnson...

Posted by: p1funk | May 11, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

"If Davies makes it back from a broken femur, it'll be a miracle.

Posted by: Vicc"

You missed the roster. It's already been announced. It's over on Soccer Insider.

Davies didn't make the cut. I thought he should have at least been called in for camp, just to see if he could progress enough by the end of the month.

Gooch was good enough to travel with AC Milan this past weekend (he didn't make the game-day roster though). If he has no setbacks, he'll be starting come June 12.

Posted by: psps23 | May 11, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Yea Portis suffers his 1st concussion in the NFL and all the sudden he's one hit from retirement? *chuckle*

His personality has never changed and he's true to himself and when he speaks to the media.

People hate Portis because he's paid.

He's given the Redskins plenty to cheer about and he's never divided the lockerroom!

Posted by: Vicc | May 11, 2010 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Why all the hating on LeGarrette?

I've punched someone in the face before. Granted it was at a nursing home and not a football field.

Donte Stallworth KILLED A MAN WITH HIS CAR

Micheal Vick KILLED DOGS

Big Ben RAPES(allegedly) WOMEN

He punched a dude in the face that pretty much deserved it.

I think he was awesome in college, and has the size to be an everydown back.

Good grief guys, lay off the H8erade

Posted by: iH8dallas | May 11, 2010 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Doug Williams is out in Tampa

several media outlets report that former NFL quarterback Doug Williams, the MVP of Super Bowl XXII, has left the Buccaneers. He has served most recently as coordinator of pro personnel.

The news comes both from Steve Duemig of WDAE and PewterReport.com. Per Duemig, the Bucs are in the process of restructuring the front office.

Williams previously served as head coach at Grambling from 1998 through 2003. He reportedly interviewed at Southern University and South Florida before signing a one-year deal to return to the Bucs for 2010.


Posted by: suliman215 | May 11, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

I see that ignorant soccer-haters are on the prowl.

Whatever. You read the criticisms and its obvious they've never really watched the game.

They call it slow and boring, and then they turn around and start talking about baseball.

They call it soft. I wonder if they've ever seen the guys out there, like Peter Cech and Christian Chivu, playing with broken skulls that are on the mend.

Posted by: p1funk | May 11, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Welcome back to D.C. Doug!!!!

Or should I say......DW17

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/05/11/doug-williams-is-out-in-tampa/

Posted by: Copious1 | May 11, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

You missed the roster. It's already been announced. It's over on Soccer Insider.


Posted by: psps23 | May 11, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse


Too bad for the U.S. that it is so weak at the forward position. Could put together a pretty competitive team, except they lack a true killer at striker.

Posted by: p1funk | May 11, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

football [sic] is fun to play with the calves, harder time following it as a spectator sport.

watched many matches in bars w/ European and South American colleagues. appreciate the fandom and skill, but yes the pace seems kind of slow to this provincial cow.

can imagine the game day experience is exhilirating in person. one can b!tch about the crowd louts in NFL venues, but compare that to the risk of being stampeded to death at Hillsborough or ambushed by hooligans.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 11, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

I don’t like the kid, but I would cut anyone some slack with concussions….plus he watched his teammate (Westbrook) try to come back too early from one and turned right back into Batman…..(old snickers commercial reference).

Posted by: dlhaze1

always thought that originated with Steve Young and Brent Jones. Young suffered a concussion, and Jones went around telling the story that Young was on the sidelines saying he "I'm Batman, I'm Batman". Of course, Young had no memory of what happened, so he couldn't deny it ...

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 11, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

What about Freddy Adu?

Posted by: NateinthePDX | May 11, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

... After all, Cushing played the games and made the plays he made. ...

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 11, 2010 4:31 PM

... on juice. If he's using something that no one else is allowed to use, then that's technically cheating.

Posted by: dcsween

Its cheating, there's no 'technicality' in it.

Thing is, the punishment changes absolutely nothing about what he did on the field in 2009. Not one thing.

The consequences are forward looking, not retroactive or even real time. If the consequences were retroactive, (ie Houston has to forfeit games, Cushing's suspension came during the 2009 season, etc), that's a different story.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 11, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse

sorry if already posted. very telling analysis:

http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/05/11/do-instant-draft-grades-mean-anything-not-really/

The two year totals are as follows (based on the empirical results, not the day-of grades) Ouch.

Dallas 195
Tennessee 192
Green Bay 176
San Diego 173
San Francisco 172.5
Philadelphia 160.5
Denver 147
New England 142
Baltimore 140.5
Houston 140
Indianapolis 133.5
New Orleans 133.5
Chicago 123.5
New York Jets 120
Carolina 113.5
Seattle 113
St. Louis 112.5
Jacksonville 96.5
Atlanta 89.5
Buffalo 89.5
Cleveland 88
Tampa 87.5
Minnesota 85
Oakland 84.5
New York Giants 83
Pittsburgh 77
Miami 76.5
Arizona 74.5
Kansas City 64.5
Cincinnati 59
Washington 42
Detroit 13.5

Posted by: beatkal | May 11, 2010 5:38 PM | Report abuse

What about Freddy Adu?

Posted by: NateinthePDX | May 11, 2010 5:31 PM

indeed!

MOL, had forgotten all about that.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 11, 2010 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Too bad for the U.S. that it is so weak at the forward position. Could put together a pretty competitive team, except they lack a true killer at striker.

Posted by: p1funk | May 11, 2010 5:21 PM


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So true. I'm getting tired of seeing Brian Ching. Bradley has never been great at choosing line-ups.

Adu is a weak bum. He was only popular b/c he was allegedly 16 years old playing with grown men. However I have a few West-African friends who assure me the youth of African players is typically exaggerated.

As for Baseball:
Is there any other sport in the world where a player or even an announcer falls asleep during the game? If you didn't know any better when hearing folk talk about baseball, you'd think there were only 5 or 6 teams total.

Posted by: Vicc | May 11, 2010 5:41 PM | Report abuse

If they sign westbrook parker will be on his way out westbrook is a far better receiver and unlike some have stated westbrook is a good blocker(he was not when he entered the league but learned) and can execute the screen pass which he has used to destroy washington and other teams better than any RB on the roster.

Posted by: wathu19 | May 11, 2010 5:57 PM | Report abuse

And moodly, not to be a jerk about it, but boo on your joke about the Hillsborough tragedy. 96 people died that day, and it took that (on top of the previous Heysel disaster) to force significant changes in crowd control, notably from terraces to all-seater stadiums.

I get the impression that big, positive strides have been made both in crowd control and hooliganism prevention in the decades since then, though of course there are still problems here and there because the passions run so high.

Don't know why I'm blathering on about this, just that (rooting interest aside) I'd probably prefer going to a Premier League match than an NFL game, if we're talking about the game experience.

Maybe that's because I've never been to a Premier League match before, so the novelty of the overall experience would compensate for my middling interest in the game itself. But I didn't cotton to your easy joke about comparative safety concerns... in 2010, I think visiting a rival's NFL stadium would be just as intimidating as visiting a rival's Premiership home.

By which I mean, you know, maps.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | May 11, 2010 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: NateinthePDX | May 11, 2010 5:57 PM

point well-taken there Nate...

was trying to convey the global enthusiasm for football, however positive or misguided. we just don't have the opportunity to experience world-class matches here.

will serve up dish of choice, at your request. are you veggie or carnivorous?

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 11, 2010 6:05 PM | Report abuse

stu27

"jump-cut?"

It's a scout term for a running back's ability to shift direction by suddenly bouncing to daylight.

With zone-blocking, it's essential as the back has to make a quick read, then take the first crease he finds in the wall of blocking.

Clinton Portis excelled at this during his Denver years.

You have to hope he still has that suddeness to make such a play--the staple of the Shanahan running game--work.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 11, 2010 6:14 PM | Report abuse

As for Baseball:
Is there any other sport in the world where a player or even an announcer falls asleep during the game? If you didn't know any better when hearing folk talk about baseball, you'd think there were only 5 or 6 teams total.

Posted by: Vicc | May 11, 2010 5:41 PM

while I'm working on serving up something for Nate, just wanted to say that I'm cool with football in the original sense.

baseball has me mildly interested... but has anyone figured out cricket yet?

that one is beyond me, seems kinda like playing bridge... perhaps more complicated.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 11, 2010 6:15 PM | Report abuse

... Bamas was getting concussions and still playing in games ... I remember getting these same symptons playing football and once you shook it off you were back in the game ...
Posted by: 4thFloor | May 11, 2010 4:53

This explains so much.

Posted by: dcsween | May 11, 2010 6:17 PM | Report abuse

Good grief guys, lay off the H8erade

Posted by: iH8dallas |

What are your thoughts on Irony?

Posted by: TheCork | May 11, 2010 6:21 PM | Report abuse

It's a shame about Westbrook, really, but he's not the Redskins' problem. The Eagles did him wrong and the rest of the NFL teams will look at the concussion history and say hands off. I hope he finds work because when he is healthy, he is decent. I look for a team like the Lions or Seahawks to take a long look at him.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | May 11, 2010 6:21 PM | Report abuse

Thing is, the punishment changes absolutely nothing about what he did on the field in 2009. Not one thing.

The consequences are forward looking, not retroactive or even real time. If the consequences were retroactive, (ie Houston has to forfeit games, Cushing's suspension came during the 2009 season, etc), that's a different story.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 11, 2010 5:37 PM

I thought you were saying it didn't make sense to re-vote the 2009 DROY.

To the extent re-voting the 2009 DROY is punishment, it absolutely changes what he did on the field. His performance on the field was fraudulent. Off the juice, he'd be just another skinny post-juice Merriman.

Posted by: dcsween | May 11, 2010 6:22 PM | Report abuse

"It's cheating, there's no 'technicality' in it."


Sure, cheating is cheating.

But isn't it funny how some cheating is okay?

While watching "The Blindside," I noticed that Oscar winner Sandra Bullock had what looked like 'booty pads' to give her more of a tush.

(Homegirl is a member of the Noazzatall club, trust me.)

She had blonde hair, too.

So, an actress or actor can use whatever is necessary to alter his/her appearance to improve overall performance and win an award, but an athlete can't?

Wazzup wid dat?

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 11, 2010 6:22 PM | Report abuse

moodlymoodlymoo,

I'll give baseball one thing: It's also the only sport I know that can be played while holding a beer.

Posted by: Vicc | May 11, 2010 6:29 PM | Report abuse

But isn't it funny how some cheating is okay?

... Sandra Bullock had what looked like 'booty pads' ... She had blonde hair, too.

So, an actress or actor can use whatever is necessary to alter his/her appearance to improve overall performance and win an award, but an athlete can't?

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 11, 2010 6:22 PM

Every actor/actress is allowed to do it, so its not cheating ... it is ... um ... acting.

Posted by: dcsween | May 11, 2010 6:29 PM | Report abuse

... It's also the only sport I know that can be played while holding a beer.

Posted by: Vicc | May 11, 2010 6:29 PM

I consider darts to be a sport (more a sport than ice dancing anyway).

Posted by: dcsween | May 11, 2010 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Don't know why I'm blathering on about this, just that (rooting interest aside) I'd probably prefer going to a Premier League match than an NFL game, if we're talking about the game experience.

Maybe that's because I've never been to a Premier League match before, so the novelty of the overall experience would compensate for my middling interest in the game itself. But I didn't cotton to your easy joke about comparative safety concerns... in 2010, I think visiting a rival's NFL stadium would be just as intimidating as visiting a rival's Premiership home.

By which I mean, you know, maps.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | May 11, 2010 5:57 PM
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Guys,
Here in Romania today, was in Germany last week, and Spain the week before. The Premier League Championship is big in all of these countries. It goes beyond team pride and extends to National pride. We will probably never have that experience with the NFL because all of our teams are US based. Even in the NHL, where Canada and US compete, I think it is more about team than country. Hey, who cares? We have the best professional sport game on the planet in American Football. We don't root for our team for national pride, but we have a great deal of pride in our teams nonetheless. Let the hate mails rain down, but soccer to me is a less masculine event. It's just not physical enough for an American-bred, corn-fed boy like myself to enjoy. My European friends would totally sit on the other side of the fence, but hey, that's why I love them. The NFL is America's sport. I'll concede soccer and (please take it)cricket, to the rest of the world...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | May 11, 2010 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Since the Skins are looking at everything old how about bringing back Marcus Washington for a look-see? He'd fill a position of need and would surely attend every voluntary OTA if given a contract.

Posted by: coparker5 | May 11, 2010 6:38 PM | Report abuse

So, an actress or actor can use whatever is necessary to alter his/her appearance to improve overall performance and win an award, but an athlete can't?

Wazzup wid dat?

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 11, 2010 6:22 PM

let's play out this scenario...

all PEDs are now legal.

level playing field, since everyone has access to the same sh!t.

anything and everything goes!

is the entertainment value better? is the personal cost acceptable?

kind of interesting to think about the idea of pro sports w/ no restrictions.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 11, 2010 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Since the Skins are looking at everything old how about bringing back Marcus Washington for a look-see? He'd fill a position of need and would surely attend every voluntary OTA if given a contract.

Posted by: coparker5 | May 11, 2010 6:39 PM | Report abuse

I thought you were saying it didn't make sense to re-vote the 2009 DROY.

To the extent re-voting the 2009 DROY is punishment, it absolutely changes what he did on the field. His performance on the field was fraudulent. Off the juice, he'd be just another skinny post-juice Merriman.

Posted by: dcsween

To be really blunt, I don't much care about the award.

The juice doesn't change a thing about what Cushing did on the field. There is no 'retroactive punishment' regarding his on-field performance. None. I don't like that Barry Bonds holds the home run record, but which home runs that he hit don't count?

The consequences to Cushing are all to come. He'll lose money from the suspension, his team is less likely to make the playoffs and he is at risk of a greater suspension if he stays on or returns to the juice.

I don't like any of it, but until the NFL gets to the point that the consequences are close to real time or there is a way to create retroactive consequences (such as forfeiting games), Cushing's body of work stands.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 11, 2010 6:41 PM | Report abuse

The reason soccer has no following here is because world class soccer is not played here. The latin propensity for falling down as if they were just shot by a rifle after barely being touched and then flopping around for 5 minutes and crying liek a little girl as if their mother has just died in front of their eyes does not help things.

ESPN showing EPL matches (where flopping is NOT part fo the ethos) will increase US interest in soccer as a sport. Seeing Clint Dempsey bend one to the back of the net from the 30 yd line in England doesn't suck, either.

I always enjoy watching the world cup matches, but it doesn't help when that GD uruguayan (or is it paraguayan?) ref jobs the US team in every match of their's he refs.

The red card to even the sides against Italy in the last WC was especially egregious.


Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | May 11, 2010 6:43 PM | Report abuse

moo man, I am an unabashed omnivore, though you don't own me anything.

And to be honest, it makes me a little bit uncomfortable having a conversation with a food animal. In the same way I get a little skeezed out by, say, the big plastic pig on the sign at the Blue Ridge Pig in Nellysford, VA. Hypocrisy, sure, not wanting to be reminded to vividly of the creature whose life was ended for my gustatory delight, but that's how I roll.

This is probably a good place to mention that I'm going to a soccer game in a few nights, to see Portland's pro soccer team play Baltimore's pro soccer team. I'm not a huge fan, but it's fun to attend the games... the "Timbers Army" add a singing, chanting ambiance along the lines of Barra Brava in DC, but on a smaller scale.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | May 11, 2010 6:46 PM | Report abuse

I'll give baseball one thing: It's also the only sport I know that can be played while holding a beer.

Posted by: Vicc | May 11, 2010 6:29 PM

MOL to that... although softball in the summer works better for not spilling beer.

cheers all. naptime is over and the calves are waking me up.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 11, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse

moo man, I am an unabashed omnivore, though you don't own me anything

Posted by: NateinthePDX | May 11, 2010 6:46 PM

since I'm an inveterate "sign-off, sign-on" kind of dude, don't want to leave you hanging...

Blue Ridge Pig is classic! although the world of americana road-side art is endless. let's save that discussion for a really slow day.

enjoy the Timbers game. we make it to Portland several times each year, but visiting old friends doesn't leave much time for sports.

if we run into each other at Escape from New York, I'll buy you a slice.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 11, 2010 6:59 PM | Report abuse

Don't know why I'm blathering on about this, just that (rooting interest aside) I'd probably prefer going to a Premier League match than an NFL game, if we're talking about the game experience.

Maybe that's because I've never been to a Premier League match before, so the novelty of the overall experience would compensate for my middling interest in the game itself. But I didn't cotton to your easy joke about comparative safety concerns... in 2010, I think visiting a rival's NFL stadium would be just as intimidating as visiting a rival's Premiership home.

By which I mean, you know, maps.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | May 11, 2010 5:57 PM | Report abuse
_________

I'd probably want to go to a soccer game, as well, if I wanted to be absolutely bored out of my mind. Soccer is a great game to play, but is the worst game ever to have to watch. I'd rather claw my eyes out than have to watch a world cup game.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | May 11, 2010 7:03 PM | Report abuse

The reason soccer has no following here is because world class soccer is not played here.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | May 11, 2010 6:43 PM

What's "world class" got to do with it? World class soccer is hopelessly boring for want of scoring.

The fundamental problem is that the soccer goal dimensions were established in about 1800 when the average man was 5'2" and was slower than mud. The ball could get into the net.

Players evolved but the game hasn't. With today's goalies the net is just too small. Make it wider, higher, and people would start to care about soccer. Until then, it can't match the excitement of darts, bowling, or hold 'em poker.

Posted by: beep-beep | May 11, 2010 7:06 PM | Report abuse

I just want to root for the Redskins , tring to make this team the old iggles or browns or TB is wearing thin on me. I know you need free agents to build a team, but lets not bring in everybody I have lothed for a decade. Its bad enough I have to root for DM5 now, so let just draw the line there please !

Posted by: ThrowItToMyTeam | May 11, 2010 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Bring in Westbrook and Doug Williams.

Get Haynesworth and Willie Parker out.

That is all.

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 11, 2010 7:46 PM | Report abuse

Holy moly brown

Posted by: westjr88 | May 11, 2010 7:53 PM | Report abuse

if we run into each other at Escape from New York, I'll buy you a slice.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 11, 2010 6:59 PM

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and tell Phil, the owner, I said hello.

I miss many things about Portland, and Escape is in the top three.

The other things I miss... are the beer.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | May 11, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Bye Donny Warren

Hello Doug Williams

Posted by: noonefromtampa | May 11, 2010 7:59 PM | Report abuse

I got to see the last World Cup on a big outdoor screen in San Diego's Little Italy.

I know, I know...

San Diego has a Little Italy?

Birra Moretti anyone?

Posted by: Chia_Pet | May 11, 2010 8:04 PM | Report abuse

potential RB's for the 2010 season:

Portis/Johnson/Parker

Portis/Westbrook/Johnson

Portis/Westbrook/Parker

Westbrook/Johnson/Parker?

obviously, other permutations result when factoring in Ryan Torain.

just throwin' sh*t out there...any votes for the best scenario?

Posted by: terrapin3 | May 11, 2010 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Neither Portis or Westbrook will be on the final roster.

or so I hope.

and for their own sake.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | May 11, 2010 8:10 PM | Report abuse

The Soccer argument always a fun one. I have really tried to get into. My dad took me to a Cosmos game when I was younger. Pele was with them. I tried to get into world cup a couple times. I can't. I hate the sport. BUT, every young kid that aspires to play sports should absolutely play. I always think of Hakeem O. 7 footer with great feet. Soccer does develop great feet... But I hate it.

Posted by: Club320 | May 11, 2010 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Wow.

The New York Cosmos.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | May 11, 2010 8:19 PM | Report abuse

"Greatest High School Football Rivalries"

Presently, on the NFL Network: Glades Central v. Pahokee High

That's Palm Beach County football.

These schools have cranked out more pro ballers than I can think of.

Case in point:

Fred Taylor

Anquan Boldin

Santonio Holmes

I'll stop there.

In other places, they play games.

In Palm Beach County, we play football.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 11, 2010 8:23 PM | Report abuse

Soccer does develop great feet... But I hate it.

Posted by: Club320 | May 11, 2010 8:16 PM

stamina, too. and i also hate el jugo bonito.

futbol fans probably think me a philistine. but you can't argue taste in sports, just like you can't argue taste in art.

Posted by: terrapin3 | May 11, 2010 8:23 PM | Report abuse

We soccer enthusiasts do realize the game has flaws, however the goal size and low scoring aren't among them.

Bad offside calls and diving are.

Defense is an art, and it should be difficult to score. We're willing to accept the ridiculous moments in exchange for the sublime ones.

But beep is right. Our game lacks the distinguishing characteristics of the NFL Super Bowl...

Commercials and geezer rock.

Posted by: SMACK1 | May 11, 2010 8:24 PM | Report abuse

"Don't know why I'm blathering on about this, just that (rooting interest aside) I'd probably prefer going to a Premier League match than an NFL game, if we're talking about the game experience."

Premier league games are very much like NFL games, at least the ones in Philly if you happen to sit in the section where the fans have painted themselves green and are guzzling beer from their hats.

Don't take the football trains, however.

Want something really exciting? Check out a qualifier between two teams like, say, Argentina and Brazil, or Costa Rica and Nicaragua.

Go armed.

Posted by: Samson151 | May 11, 2010 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Albert Haynesworth attended Hartsville High School in Hartsville, South Carolina, where he played soccer and football.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | May 11, 2010 8:31 PM | Report abuse

and tell Phil, the owner, I said hello.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | May 11, 2010 7:57 PM

will do that, chia... just for the look on his face when I'm explaining that a cow and 70's novelty product w/ alfalfa sprouts are both 'skins fans.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 11, 2010 8:32 PM | Report abuse

"Players evolved but the game hasn't. With today's goalies the net is just too small. Make it wider, higher, and people would start to care about soccer. Until then, it can't match the excitement of darts, bowling, or hold 'em poker.Posted by: beep-beep"

See, a Brit would say much the same about American football. Why do they keep stopping play just when things are getting interesting? Each team runs 65-70 plays and comes away with two or three actual 'goals' and a couple stupid kicks through the goalposts? What's so exciting about that?

I guess you have to be there.

Posted by: Samson151 | May 11, 2010 8:33 PM | Report abuse

At Tennessee's Pro Day in 2002, when he was just 20, Haynesworth measured at 6-foot-6, 317 pounds, ran a 4.82 40-yard dash, had a 39-inch vertical jump and an 8-foot, 7-inch broad jump.

He did not workout at the 2002 NFL Combine and no one has any idea what his time in the 40 is today.

really, no one knows...

Posted by: Chia_Pet | May 11, 2010 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Cool moodlymoo, cool.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | May 11, 2010 8:37 PM | Report abuse

their r favorable reports about CP. I missed those mr mayor?! What about his burst, did his burst show up at camp?

Player hatin player hatin favorable report player hatin player hatin

Posted by: pabrian2003 | May 11, 2010 8:37 PM | Report abuse

CP has a burst?

Nah uh?

Posted by: Chia_Pet | May 11, 2010 8:39 PM | Report abuse

Fat Albert played soccer??

Hey Moe...
Southeastern VA has put out quite a few pro ballers in several sports too........and one dog breeder.

Posted by: westjr88 | May 11, 2010 8:41 PM | Report abuse

Albert Haynesworth attended Hartsville High School in Hartsville, South Carolina, where he played soccer and football.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | May 11, 2010 8:31 PM | Report abuse


Chad "Och Cinco" Johnson is actually an avid soccer player. He lists it as his favorite sport and first love in athletics, but in high-school decided to focus on football in order to have a pro career.

He's kicked in a Bengals preseason game and has even asked the coaches to be a backup kicker.

If the NFL has a lockout, he says he's gonna pursue pro soccer in Europe.

Posted by: p1funk | May 11, 2010 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Chia....
He wasn't at the combine because he was at home with his own trainer...havin' his own combine probably.

Posted by: westjr88 | May 11, 2010 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Chia....
He wasn't at the combine because he was at home with his own trainer...havin' his own combine probably.

Posted by: westjr88 | May 11, 2010 8:50 PM | Report abuse

... I don't like that Barry Bonds holds the home run record, but which home runs that he hit don't count?

... Cushing's body of work stands.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 11, 2010 6:41 PM

... All of them

and

... on a foundation of juice

Posted by: dcsween | May 11, 2010 8:55 PM | Report abuse

The Soccer argument always a fun one.

Posted by: Club320 | May 11, 2010 8:16 PM | Report abuse


Not sure what the "argument" is.

Pretty much like any sport, some people like it and others don't. You wouldn't necessarily say there's a "football" argument or "tennis" argument.

You're either into it or not.

The only "arguments" I take up are from ignoramuses who seem to single out soccer for criticism that can apply to a number of sports, such as:

-"it is slow and boring"...as if sitting through a 4 hour baseball game that has approx. 10 minutes of actual play is so gosh darn riveting and action-packed

-"people flop and act to draw fouls"...ever seen an NBA game? You know when those giant human beings go sprawling on the floor to draw charges? Or 6'8'' 250 lbs superstars like LeBron James pout and grimace every time they don't get a call? Or an NFL wide receiver who doesn't catch the ball in coverage and hops around incredulously acting like he should get PI? Pretty much any sport that has contact fouls opens itself up to some manipulation on the part of the players to take advantage of the rules.

-"it doesn't involve strategy"...it involves as much strategy as any other free-flowing game like lacrosse or hockey, usually people who have never played the game and don't understand positions and tactics beyond pee-wee kick-n-chase simply don't get the strategy; since there is little reliance on set plays it leaves more room for individual creativity and spur-of-the-moment brilliance on the part of the players to make a difference

-"it is low-scoring"...sometimes, sometimes not. Same could be said for some hockey games or baseball games. For me, the fact that it can be low scoring is what makes it exciting; goals are a big deal and soccer involves alot of heartbreak b/c anyone can beat anyone in a given game moreso than in most other sports

Posted by: p1funk | May 11, 2010 8:55 PM | Report abuse

If the NFL has a lockout, he says he's gonna pursue pro soccer in Europe.

Posted by: p1funk | May 11, 2010 8:42 PM

i believe it but it does kinda sound like one of BeantownGreg1's PFT copy-and-pastes.

guess that's no different than T.O. tryin' to be a two-way pro football/basketball player.

Posted by: terrapin3 | May 11, 2010 8:56 PM | Report abuse

... I don't like that Barry Bonds holds the home run record, but which home runs that he hit don't count?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 11, 2010 6:41 PM

i know it's not the point you were trying to make, but the whole baseball record book needs asterisks.

this is the segregated era...dead ball era...juiced era, etc.

Posted by: terrapin3 | May 11, 2010 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Alright, all you Rastafar-eyes, it's SUMMER, and with all the vegetables burstin' out, there's really no excuse for the wolf to eat the moose carcass, save those Jehovah's Witnesses in the freezer for WIN TER, c'mon , spare a mammal...

WHO LET ALL THE HINDUS IN THE BUILDING?!?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEd40gnPHwQ

Posted by: frak | May 11, 2010 9:01 PM | Report abuse

DW17 beeps

Posted by: terrapin3 | May 11, 2010 9:07 PM | Report abuse

Mike Shanahan: "Bryan, you are late in your career. We would need you to be willing to be a third down back and play special teams"

Bryan Westbrook: "Is that it? "No chance to start?"

MS: "No, no chance to start. We are offering you a chance to be a part of changing the Washington Redskins, and to continue playing w/ D McNabb."


If he BW, says, "Ok, I'll do it"

Then I say sign him up and they can cut one of the other three and use him as a 3rd down back and special teamer.

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | May 11, 2010 9:20 PM | Report abuse

No, there is zero need for yet another RB even if he is used as a pass-catching RB.

Redskins need other needs MUCH more

Posted by: Bious | May 11, 2010 9:22 PM | Report abuse

The only "arguments" I take up are from ignoramuses who seem to single out soccer for criticism that can apply to a number of sports, such as:

-"it is slow and boring"...

-"people flop and act to draw fouls"...

-"it doesn't involve strategy"...

-"it is low-scoring"...

Posted by: p1funk | May 11, 2010 8:55 PM

None of these criticisms applies to perfect sports like bowling, darts, or Texas hold 'em.

Posted by: beep-beep | May 11, 2010 9:26 PM | Report abuse

When I say beep beep, everybody out of the pool:

beep beep

Posted by: beep-beep | May 11, 2010 9:31 PM | Report abuse

Sign Brian, dump Byron, the Skins are a better team, do it Shanny

Posted by: coparker5 | May 11, 2010 9:34 PM | Report abuse

wtf: you made the SAME error in this piece, too??? the name of the school is Spingarn. NOT SpRingarn. haven't you been in DC long enough to even know THAT?

Posted by: dcjazzman | May 11, 2010 9:48 PM | Report abuse

add whoever. but only keep who will help the team win the superbowl

Posted by: lostdogrwd1011 | May 11, 2010 11:33 PM | Report abuse

add whoever. but only keep who will help the team win the superbowl

Posted by: lostdogrwd1011 | May 11, 2010 11:33 PM | Report abuse

Good one.

What's the over/under on how many players will get carried off the due to a vagina bruise?

My guess is 15.

Through the first round.

Posted by: RedDMV | May 11, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

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Like or dislike the game but know your facts before opening your mouth and inserting your foot. From a purely physical standpoint football and hockey clearly lead the way but next on the list is without question soccer. I love baseball and basketball but please neither is even remotely as physical as soccer. With the exception of the rare plate collisions and brushback pitches baseball isn't a contact sport. Finally, basketball has players routinely crying for a foul because the defender touched the offensive player with his little bitty pinky finger. I won't use the c word you are insinuating but if any sport is a c!$$y sport it would be baseball or basketball.

Posted by: croftonpost | May 12, 2010 1:02 AM | Report abuse

do not sign westbrook, how many old running backs on there last leg do we need. i thought the gm was named bruce allen not george allen.

Posted by: williedyn | May 12, 2010 2:19 AM | Report abuse

NO Brainer...this guys is great!

Posted by: LongTimeSkinsFan | May 12, 2010 6:43 AM | Report abuse

Sign Westbrook and then promptly cut Portis. Why that cancer is still on the team is beyond me....

Posted by: CHICO13 | May 12, 2010 6:54 AM | Report abuse

Sign Westbrook and then promptly cut Portis. Why that cancer is still on the team is beyond me....

Posted by: CHICO13 | May 12, 2010 6:54 AM | Report abuse

Westbrook had a great run with the Eagles. He should be happy and retire why he still has some sembelance of health. He probably wants another payday before he goes though and knows Dany will pay every single over the hill player around.

Posted by: sjp879 | May 12, 2010 8:27 AM | Report abuse

It wouldn't suprise me. Another flashy signing can only help us win the off season SB. Just think of the difference you could make if you:

BOYCOTT $NYDER-POOR LITTLE TIGER'S NECK HURTS,WAIT A MINUTE,WHICH NECK ARE WE TALKING ABOUT-BOYCOTT $NYDER!

Posted by: hessone | May 12, 2010 9:11 AM | Report abuse

I sometimes think the skins want to show they are the best in the offseason. Why, do we need so many running backs? Shanny made a name in Denver by finding/making star running backs. Why can't he do the same in DC? Cut all these over the hill guys and start fresh.... Just my opinion

Posted by: wizardman | May 12, 2010 9:22 AM | Report abuse

If the price is right, why not? There's no such thing as too much quality depth.

Posted by: largetony86 | May 12, 2010 9:29 AM | Report abuse

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