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Posted at 5:50 PM ET, 12/ 9/2010

Torain on track to start Sunday

By Jason Reid

Running back Ryan Torain remained on track to reclaim his position with the first-team offense this week after participating fully in practice again Thursday afternoon at Redskins Park.

Torain, sidelined for weeks because of lingering hamstring problems, was involved in every facet of practice for the second consecutive day. He has not played since the first half of the Week 8 loss to the Detroit Lions.

The oft-injured second-year player has frustrated the organization while missing the past four-plus games, prompting the Redskins to consult with specialists to determine how to proceed, Coach Mike Shanahan said recently.

When physically sound, Torrain has provided a spark for a Redskins rushing attack that ranks 27th in the NFL with 1,072 yards. Torain still leads the Redskins with 391 yards (he has a 4.3-yard average). He had consecutive 100-yard games in Weeks 6 and 7 and has rushed for three touchdowns.

Strong safety LaRon Landry (Achilles' tendon) and cornerback Carlos Rogers (hamstring) continued to miss practice, however. A decision about their status for the remainder of the season could be announced next week, defensive coordinator Jim Haslett revealed.

Landry, who was having a Pro Bowl-caliber season, missed the last three games. Rogers, battling hamstring problems on both legs, has missed two of the past three games.

Although the struggling Redskins (5-7) are expected to make major changes again in the offseason, it would seem that Landry and Rogers have a good chance of being retained for next season. Looking toward 2011, it may make more sense to put both players on the season-endimg injured reserve for the final games and audition other players in their positions.

For the second consecutive day, return specialists Brandon Banks (knee) and free safety Kareem Moore (knee and biceps) were limited in practice. Recently signed free safety Macho Harris has taken all the first-team reps in practice this week.

Top Tampa Bay wide receiver Mike Williams (knee) did not participate in practice. Williams leads the team with 51 receptions for 769 yards (a 15.1-yard average) and seven touchdowns.

The Buccaneers received some encouraging news about tight end Kellen Winslow (knee), who practiced fully after sitting out practice Wednesday. Winslow is second on the team with 50 receptions for 506 yards (a 10.1-yard average). He has two touchdowns.

By Jason Reid  | December 9, 2010; 5:50 PM ET
Categories:  Carlos Rogers, LaRon Landry, Ryan Torain  
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Comments

Cool.

It'll be nice to see him going again.

Now if we can only find some goons to block for him...

Posted by: edvar | December 9, 2010 6:02 PM | Report abuse

It may be hard for you to grasp Reid, but the coaches and players have no choice but to fight until they are mathematically eliminated from the playoffs.

Highly unlikely, yes, but a 4 game winning streak makes things interesting.

After the next loss I'd look for Landry to go on IR however.

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | December 9, 2010 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Can you ever make [Haynesworth] happy?

~since when do you want a happy DT?
from, MEAN joe green

Snyder has Shanny's back

~oh, it must be legit and ethical then

Torain on track to start Sunday

~is he on track to finish, cause that's what he's not been able to do....yet

Posted by: pabrian2003 | December 9, 2010 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Rather see James Davis than Torain

Posted by: coparker5 | December 9, 2010 6:44 PM | Report abuse

"Although the struggling Redskins (5-7) are expected to make major changes again in the offseason, it would seem that Landry and Rogers have a good chance of being retained for next season. Looking toward 2011, it may make more sense to put both players on the season-endimg injured reserve for the final games and audition other players in their positions."
Posted by: Jason Reid

Landry is still under contract next year and Rodgers is not. They will extend Landry and I can't see them resigning Rogers unless it's on the cheap.


Posted by: Diesel44 | December 9, 2010 6:46 PM | Report abuse

Landry is still under contract next year and Rodgers is not. They will extend Landry and I can't see them resigning Rogers unless it's on the cheap.


Posted by: Diesel44 | December 9, 2010 6:46 PM |

BS. They'll resign Rogers. They don't want to create another hole to fill.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | December 9, 2010 7:07 PM | Report abuse

Rather see James Davis than Torain

Posted by: coparker5 | December 9, 2010 6:44 PM | Report abuse

So would Tampa.

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | December 9, 2010 7:25 PM | Report abuse

If Snyder were still out front in this organization, then Vincent Jackson and Randy Moss would be Redskins. Also, we would resign Joe Salevea to play DT.

Posted by: rickyroge | December 9, 2010 7:30 PM | Report abuse

SICWIDIT's POLL OF THA' WEEK...

Short and sweet...

Upon retirement, should London Fletcher go into the Redskins "Ring of Honor"?

a) Yes
b) No

Posted by: rickyroge | December 9, 2010 7:33 PM | Report abuse

a)

Posted by: scampbell1975 | December 9, 2010 7:35 PM | Report abuse

I'd rather see LJ and WP than RT et al

Posted by: pabrian2003 | December 9, 2010 7:36 PM | Report abuse

"Although the struggling Redskins (5-7) are expected to make major changes again in the offseason,"


Huh, 30 of the 53 were of Shanny's doing. What other major changes can he make? Get rid of the new bums that he just signed and replace them with other bums?

Posted by: dcwun | December 9, 2010 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Landry is still under contract next year and Rodgers is not. They will extend Landry and I can't see them resigning Rogers unless it's on the cheap.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 9, 2010 6:46 PM |

BS. They'll resign Rogers. They don't want to create another hole to fill.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | December 9,

Agreed. Despite having horrible hands he's still a pretty good cover guy.

Posted by: dcwun | December 9, 2010 7:45 PM | Report abuse

Upon retirement, should London Fletcher go into the Redskins "Ring of Honor"?

a) Yes
b) No

Posted by: rickyroge | December 9, 2010 7:33 PM

b) No

Next year is his last under the 5 YR 25 mil contract he signed in 2007 and will be his last as a Skin. He's been the best FA signing in the last 10 years but 5 YRs of good play doesn't put you in the Ring of Honor.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 9, 2010 7:48 PM | Report abuse

SICWIDIT's POLL OF THA' WEEK...

Short and sweet...

Upon retirement, should London Fletcher go into the Redskins "Ring of Honor"?

a) Yes
b) No

Posted by: rickyroge | December 9, 2010

b). The ring is reserved for HoFers, multiple Pro Bowlers, Super Bowl winners, or franchise stats leaders. He needs to win a SB to even be considered.

Posted by: dcwun | December 9, 2010 7:49 PM | Report abuse

BS. They'll resign Rogers. They don't want to create another hole to fill.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | December 9,

Agreed. Despite having horrible hands he's still a pretty good cover guy.

Posted by: dcwun | December 9, 2010 7:45 PM

He'll be THIRTY (30) before the start of next season and will be looking for a 5 YR deal. No way he gets that here. He's our best cover guy but doesn't make enough plays and will be in a new uniform bext year.

File this one away but I say NO.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 9, 2010 7:56 PM | Report abuse

He'll be THIRTY (30) before the start of next season and will be looking for a 5 YR deal. No way he gets that here. He's our best cover guy but doesn't make enough plays and will be in a new uniform bext year.

File this one away but I say NO.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 9, 2010 7:56 PM

I guess we'll see. That 30 age markm seems to apply mostly to RB's and lineman. I wouldn't apply it here.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | December 9, 2010 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Fletcher is great, but Ring of Fame? 4 years probably isn't enough. Here are the guys that are marginal, imho.

Ken Harvey (5 years)
Doug Williams (1 amazing quarter)
Sam Huff (his best years were in ny)
Billy Kilmer (greatness was all around him)
Vince Lombardi and ST21 (RIP)

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 9, 2010 8:15 PM | Report abuse

b) No

Next year is his last under the 5 YR 25 mil contract he signed in 2007 and will be his last as a Skin. He's been the best FA signing in the last 10 years but 5 YRs of good play doesn't put you in the Ring of Honor.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 9, 2010 7:48 PM
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Agreed,...No, to one probowl FA Fletch in the Skins Ring of Honor...

In contrast to Fletcher, Nine Pro-Bowl appearances linebackers like Chris Hanburger are better qualified..... Hope he makes it into the HOF as the seniors 2011 nombinee.

Posted by: onanygivensunday | December 9, 2010 8:17 PM | Report abuse

I give Fletcher the ROF because he's been one of the very few bright spots in an abyssmal era. Tons of tackles, leader, probowl...Having said that, he hasn't been here very long and we haven't really won anything, well, in forever.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | December 9, 2010 8:19 PM | Report abuse

SICWIDIT'S POLL PART II

So if London Fletcher is not in the Redskins "Ring of Honor", should Clinton Portis be in:

a) Yes
b) No

Posted by: rickyroge | December 9, 2010 8:23 PM | Report abuse

Another guy worth consideration of the Ring of Honor is the loved/hated Clinton Portis. Close to 7000 YDs and 40+ TDs.

I say NO, what say you..

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 9, 2010 8:24 PM | Report abuse

In my opinion Clinton is in before London.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | December 9, 2010 8:24 PM | Report abuse

Another guy worth consideration of the Ring of Honor is the loved/hated Clinton Portis. Close to 7000 YDs and 40+ TDs.

I say NO, what say you..

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 9, 2010 8:24 PM
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Who controls the voting for the ROF? Snyder? If so, then "all of the above" in this thread get in, as Danny crunches the numbers and the resulting potential profits from Ring Of Fame merchandise. I can see the London Fletcher Redskins Ring Of Fame Jersey right now.

Posted by: onanygivensunday | December 9, 2010 8:32 PM | Report abuse

Probably No on Clinton, if somehow they bring him back next year and we get a actual productive season from him then yes.

No on LFB, not because of the lack of pro-bowls and that bs someone stated above. But most of Fletchers career has been spent on other teams. To me you need to spend most your career in DC to make the ROF. Ideally you should be drafted by the team.

Posted by: alex35332 | December 9, 2010 8:32 PM | Report abuse

I don't see the Ring of Honor as a "stats' related thing...I think it's more about how long you've been a Redskin and your contributions.

Posted by: rickyroge | December 9, 2010 8:35 PM | Report abuse

OK...

SICWIDIT POLL Part 3

Should Chris Samuels be in the Redskins Ring of Honor?

a) Yes
b) No


Posted by: rickyroge | December 9, 2010 8:37 PM | Report abuse

No on LFB, not because of the lack of pro-bowls and that bs someone stated above. But most of Fletchers career has been spent on other teams. To me you need to spend most your career in DC to make the ROF. Ideally you should be drafted by the team.

Posted by: alex35332 | December 9, 2010 8:32 PM |

Yea, I guess that makes sense. I'm taking Fletch's whole career into account. If its going to be ROF material I guess it should be achievements while on this team. No on Fletch.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | December 9, 2010 8:37 PM | Report abuse

Another guy worth consideration of the Ring of Honor is the loved/hated Clinton Portis. Close to 7000 YDs and 40+ TDs.

I say NO, what say you..

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 9, 2010

You know my answer.....YES.

He'll have to go in after he breaks Riggo's record next year. Yes, he will return for one more year on the cheap.

Posted by: dcwun | December 9, 2010 8:38 PM | Report abuse

Ideally you should be drafted by the team.

Posted by: alex35332 | December 9, 2010 8:32 PM

Many of the guys in weren't drafted by the team. Including my name sake. Consider we've abandoned the draft during the Snyder Era that would leave a list of one....Chris Samuels

ST21 is in btw...

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 9, 2010 8:40 PM | Report abuse

Should Chris Samuels be in the Redskins Ring of Honor?

a) Yes
b) No


Him I vote yes.

Posted by: alex35332 | December 9, 2010 8:46 PM | Report abuse

No on LFB, not because of the lack of pro-bowls and that bs someone stated above. But most of Fletchers career has been spent on other teams. To me you need to spend most your career in DC to make the ROF. Ideally you should be drafted by the team.

Posted by: alex35332 | December 9, 2010

If we use that criteria, half of the ring would disappear. ST21 is the exception.

Posted by: dcwun | December 9, 2010 8:46 PM | Report abuse

interesting note, as an Atty...

Dallas Cowboys actually own the only active Trademark for the phrase "Ring of Honor". Is Dan paying a licensing fee for those Jerseys?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Word Mark RING OF HONOR
FIRST USE: 19751123. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19761107
Standard Characters Claimed
Mark Drawing Code (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK
Serial Number 78795652
Filing Date January 20, 2006
Current Filing Basis 1A
Original Filing Basis 1B
Published for Opposition January 2, 2007
Registration Number 3393156
Registration Date March 4, 2008
Owner (REGISTRANT) Dallas Cowboys Football Club, Ltd. JWJ Corporation, a Texas Corporation LIMITED PARTNERSHIP TEXAS Cowboys Center, One Cowboys Parkway Irving TEXAS 75063
Attorney of Record Kevin G. Smith
Type of Mark SERVICE MARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE

Posted by: onanygivensunday | December 9, 2010 8:55 PM | Report abuse

He'll be THIRTY (30) before the start of next season and will be looking for a 5 YR deal. No way he gets that here. He's our best cover guy but doesn't make enough plays and will be in a new uniform bext year.

File this one away but I say NO.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 9, 2010 7:56 PM

I guess we'll see. That 30 age markm seems to apply mostly to RB's and lineman. I wouldn't apply it here.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | December 9, 2010 8:14 PM
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I agree, but you have to wonder if Carlos might be one of those players with a lot of hard mileage. He seems to be a lock for missing a few games each season for injury.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | December 9, 2010 8:56 PM | Report abuse

I agree, but you have to wonder if Carlos might be one of those players with a lot of hard mileage. He seems to be a lock for missing a few games each season for injury.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | December 9, 2010 8:56 PM

That's probably because he actually tackles.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | December 9, 2010 8:59 PM | Report abuse

I agree, but you have to wonder if Carlos might be one of those players with a lot of hard mileage. He seems to be a lock for missing a few games each season for injury.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | December 9, 2010 8:56 PM

That's probably because he actually tackles.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | December 9, 2010 8:59 PM
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Wasn't he pretty much injury free his first four seasons? I think this injury bug is a relatively new thing...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | December 9, 2010 9:03 PM | Report abuse

Here's the current Ring of Honor Members

George Allen, head coach, 1971–77
Cliff Battles, RB, 1932–37
Sammy Baugh, QB, 1937–52
Gene Brito, DE, 1951–53, 1955–58
Larry Brown, RB, 1969–76
Dave Butz, DT, 1975–88
Gary Clark, WR, 1985–92
Jack Kent Cooke, Owner, 1961–97
Bill Dudley, RB, 1950–51, 1953
Wayne Curry, Prince George's County Executive, 1994–2002
Pat Fischer, CB, 1968–77
Joe Gibbs, head coach, 1981–92, 2004–07
Darrell Green, CB, 1983–2002
Russ Grimm, G, 1981–91
Chris Hanburger, LB, 1965–78
Ken Harvey, LB, 1994–98
Len Hauss, C, 1964–77
Phil Hochberg, PA announcer, 1963–2000
Ken Houston, S, 1973–80
Sam Huff, LB, 1964–67, 1969
Joe Jacoby, T/G, 1981–93
Dick James, RB, 1956–63
Sonny Jurgensen, QB, 1964–74
Charlie Justice, RB, 1950, 1952–54
Billy Kilmer, QB, 1971–78
Eddie LeBaron, QB, 1952–53, 1955–59
Vince Lombardi, head coach, 1969
Dexter Manley, DE, 1981–89
Charles Mann, DE, 1983–93
George Preston Marshall, team founder and owner, 1932–69
Wayne Millner, E, 1936–41, 1945
Bobby Mitchell, flanker, 1962–68
Brian Mitchell, RB/KR, 1990–99
Art Monk, WR, 1980–93
Mark Moseley, PK, 1974–86
Brig Owens, DB, 1966–77
Vince Promuto, G, 1960–70
John Riggins, RB, 1976–79, 1981–85
Jerry Smith, TE, 1965–77
Charley Taylor, WR, 1964–77
Sean Taylor, S, 2004–07
Joe Theismann, QB, 1974–85
Lamar "Bubba" Tyer, head athletic trainer, 1971–2002, 2004–08
Doug Williams, QB, 1986–89

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 9, 2010 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Wasn't he pretty much injury free his first four seasons? I think this injury bug is a relatively new thing...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | December 9, 2010 9:03 PM

I don't recall him missing any time.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | December 9, 2010 9:21 PM | Report abuse

You know who I don't get being on the Ring of Fame list. Wayne Curry

Posted by: alex35332 | December 9, 2010 9:23 PM | Report abuse

So Vince Lombardi is in the ring and he coached here what? One season?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | December 9, 2010 9:25 PM | Report abuse

So Vince Lombardi is in the ring and he coached here what? One season?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | December 9, 2010 9:25 PM | Report abuse

I disagree with that one too, but he did create those awful yellow helmets everyone seems to love.

Posted by: alex35332 | December 9, 2010 9:26 PM | Report abuse

You know who I don't get being on the Ring of Fame list. Wayne Curry

Posted by: alex35332 | December 9, 2010 9:23 PM
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FEDEX Stadium.... draw your own conclusions.

Posted by: onanygivensunday | December 9, 2010 9:28 PM | Report abuse

So are we to believe that crazy blonde woman in the GEICO commercial had a one-night stand with a gecko in Toledo in 2003?

Posted by: freakzilla | December 9, 2010 9:29 PM | Report abuse

So are we to believe that crazy blonde woman in the GEICO commercial had a one-night stand with a gecko in Toledo in 2003?

Posted by: freakzilla | December 9, 2010 9:29 PM

I always wondered what the line "It's too late Stanley" is supposed to mean. I mean, if the dude scrogged her and bolted it's not like it would be too late for anything at that point.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | December 9, 2010 9:31 PM | Report abuse

These are the questionable, albeit great Redskins contributors in the "Ring of Honor"

Ken Harvey
Doug Williams
Vince Lombardi ( I know I'm goin' to hell but...)

Posted by: rickyroge | December 9, 2010 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Williams won a Superbowl for us... that one I can see.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | December 9, 2010 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Wasn't he pretty much injury free his first four seasons? I think this injury bug is a relatively new thing...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | December 9, 2010 9:03 PM

I don't recall him missing any time.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | December 9, 2010 9:21 PM

He's played in 76 games out of a possible 92. 30's only old when it comes to RBs and women and he'll def test the market.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 9, 2010 9:35 PM | Report abuse

He's played in 76 games out of a possible 92. 30's only old when it comes to RBs and women and he'll def test the market.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 9, 2010 9:35 PM |

He'll test the market and be disappointed when his hands keep him from the big shploika. Only the Skins will know his true value and they'll pay him for it.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | December 9, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

You know who I don't get being on the Ring of Fame list. Wayne Curry

Posted by: alex35332 | December 9, 2010 9:23 PM
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FEDEX Stadium.... draw your own conclusions.

Posted by: onanygivensunday | December 9, 2010 9:28 PM

That's it that the list. Wayne K. Curry was the Democratic county executive between 1994–2002. The Cooker was complete in 1997.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 9, 2010 9:44 PM | Report abuse

Ken Harvey
Doug Williams
Vince Lombardi ( I know I'm goin' to hell but...)

Posted by: rickyroge | December 9, 2010

Harvey was a Pro Bowler practically every year with the Skins and Williams was a SB MVP. No arguments from me.

Posted by: dcwun | December 9, 2010 9:49 PM | Report abuse

Samuels is an easy yes for ROF, Portis is probably yes, 2nd all time rusher. Fletcher, just not enough seasons in DC. Though was Ken Harvey (5 seasons) any more deserving?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 9, 2010 9:54 PM | Report abuse

. Here are a few of the items i see we need to do and/or not do.

1st)Hayensworh has to go. Loved we didn't cut him, not at least getting a 4th or 5th for him would have sucked.

2)Keep Mcnabb- I realize he hasnt played well this season, but the talent on the o-line and recievers and backs aren't the greatest. He can also mentor...

3) which leads us to number 3. We either need to draft a QB who can be ready for 2012 or find a young free agent to sit for a year. This may not go over well, but if Cam Newtons available when we pick, I say go for it...Drafting a lineman in the 2nd round.

4) The running back situation needs to be adressed and if I am Shannallen I go to Charlotte and offer Deangelo Williams whatever he wants. He has 4-5 years of really good football left, and if the o-line improves, he makes Mcnabb better for Play action

5)Barring a lock out, from what I have read, this years crop of free agents is suppose to be bad ass. We have seen that movie before, and we know how it ends, but we are gonna have to fill depth and starting roles due to the roster purge (#6) we only go after players who are younger than 28 and have not been injury prone.

6) There is gonna obviously be a roster purge. Heres who I say needs to go...Portis, Hayensworth, Carter, Rabach (unless he comes back for less and as a backup) Heyer( just sick of him) . I do not think S.Moss needs to leave, espically if you find another reciever to go with him. Nor should Cooley or Fred Davis, we just need to find a way to put them in place to make plays.

7) Keep Brandon Banks doing what he is doing...

Posted by: TheFuzzyClam | December 9, 2010 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Ken Harvey's resume as a Redskin

Washington Redskins (1994-1999)
Career highlights and awards
4× Pro Bowl selection (1994, 1995, 1996, 1997)
70 Greatest Redskins

Better man off the field as well and deserves the honor.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 9, 2010 9:56 PM | Report abuse

What about LaVar Arrington or Jon Jansen for the Ring of Honor?

Stephen Davis?

Posted by: iH8dallas | December 9, 2010 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Doug Williams in ROF is weak. He did play the 15 best minutes of football ever played on the biggest stage of all. Super Bowl MVP? Absolutely.

But beyond that, he was an occasional starter here. ROF for 15 brilliant minutes?

fwiw, I'd also say no to Timmy Smith and Ricky Sanders, who also had huge games in that SB. But I'd consider Jeff Bostic.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 9, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse

He's played in 76 games out of a possible 92. 30's only old when it comes to RBs and women and he'll def test the market.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 9, 2010 9:35 PM |

He'll test the market and be disappointed when his hands keep him from the big shploika. Only the Skins will know his true value and they'll pay him for it.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | December 9, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

I have to agree with scamp on Los. He will be disappointed with what he is offered in FA.

I think CP should be in ROF, along with Samuels. London is a close call, but I think he should be on it. And Ken Harvey should be on it also. Both a classy guys.

Posted by: frediefritz | December 9, 2010 10:13 PM | Report abuse

Samuels can't go in the Skins ROF ahead of Jim Lachey. Lachey is the Gayle Sayers of Skins ROF - short but dominant career, plus Lachey was a better player than Sanuels

Posted by: coparker5 | December 9, 2010 10:13 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 9, 2010 9:05 PM | Report abuse

So the average length of time with the Redskins is 11.23 years. This figure is inflated by 2 owners and deflated by 3 or 4 players with 4 years or less and Lombardi.

BTW, how is George Preston Marshall owner until '69 when JKC starting owning is '61? Was there a partnership for a few years?

I remember Butz as a NT, was he not? Did we run a 3-4 previously in the 80's?

I really miss Phil Hochberg when I go to games these days.

And Zeke, no disrespect, but how is ST not in the ROF? Sentimentality aside, he was a once-in-generation-player.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | December 9, 2010 10:16 PM | Report abuse

Ring of Fame, Ring of Honor, whatever. You know what I mean.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | December 9, 2010 10:20 PM | Report abuse

ST21 is in the ROH.

No to Jansen and Davis. I say no to Portis but he's on the bubble and could get in.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 9, 2010 10:23 PM | Report abuse

ih8

LaVar: no, played well at times, but underachieved on a personal level and underaccomplished on a team level. Opposes the team in today's media.

Jansen: see above team level and missed significant time to injury. I love his play early when healthy, but no. No longer connected with the team.

Stephen Davis: no. Good player no longer connected with the team.

I love these guys personally, but don't think they can join the above list.

Samuels: yes. All-pro stud, still with the team's coaches.

CP yes: second all time rushing now, maybe first all time next year.

Lachey: yes, personal bias from winning years.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | December 9, 2010 10:36 PM | Report abuse

Since when is building FedEx ever been a good thing for this team?

Posted by: alex35332 | December 9, 2010 10:36 PM | Report abuse

While watching Colts game, I am struck with the observation that the Colts receivers rarely drop a pass that they get their hands on. Does Peyton throw a pass that's easier to catch, or do the Colts identify receivers that have better hands? Why do the Skins receivers drop so many passes?

Posted by: frediefritz | December 9, 2010 10:42 PM | Report abuse

Jim Lachey has to be in the Redskins' Ring of Whatever -- he was in one sense the "last Hog in", since he arrived in '88 and anchored the line for that last great championship run in '91.

And, good grief, he was All-Pro in 89, 90 and 91. In my mind that's the highest honor a position player can get in a season, an order of magnitude more meaningful than the stupid Pro Bowl.

Lachey has to be in. And I'd love to see Jansen and Samuels go in together.

The dude whose name I'm going to throw out there for chuckles -- I realize he's not heading for any ring except maybe an onion ring -- because he was my favorite Redskin for a while: Tre' Johnson.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 9, 2010 10:50 PM | Report abuse

OK..OK...

SICWIDIT's POLL PART 4

Best Frontman:

a) Freddie Mercury
b) Mick Jagger
c) Steve Perry

Posted by: rickyroge | December 9, 2010 10:51 PM | Report abuse

tre' johnson...hmmm (maybe)

Posted by: rickyroge | December 9, 2010 10:56 PM | Report abuse

The dude whose name I'm going to throw out there for chuckles -- I realize he's not heading for any ring except maybe an onion ring -- because he was my favorite Redskin for a while: Tre' Johnson.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 9, 2010 10:50 PM | Report abuse

See LaVar, or Dockery for that matter. I had higher hopes.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | December 9, 2010 10:58 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 9, 2010 10:58 PM | Report abuse

Why do the Skins receivers drop so many passes?

Posted by: frediefritz | December 9, 2010 10:42 PM


Because no one chews them out if they drop them.

Posted by: freakzilla | December 9, 2010 11:01 PM | Report abuse

Mick Jagger-longevity?

Never did get Journey, but Freddie Mercury rocked.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | December 9, 2010 11:01 PM | Report abuse

Best Frontman:

a) Freddie Mercury
b) Mick Jagger
c) Steve Perry

Posted by: rickyroge | December 9, 2010 10:51 PM

Mick "Freaking" Jagger.

I also agree that Jim Lachey HAS to be in. Make it happen

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 9, 2010 11:04 PM | Report abuse

OK..OK...

SICWIDIT's POLL PART 4

Best Frontman:

a) Freddie Mercury
b) Mick Jagger
c) Steve Perry


Easy, Mercury. You can't be that great of a rock star if you didn't die before your time, and you are no longer great if you do a music video for a movie your daughter stars in. And if he hadn't died he would probably still be the face of Queen. Just my opinion.

Posted by: alex35332 | December 9, 2010 11:07 PM | Report abuse

I'd go with Lachey -- my bad, didn't notice he wasn't in.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 9, 2010 11:09 PM | Report abuse

How can you keep a RB out of the ROF when he is #2 in franchise history in rushing yards?

Yes to Portis.

Jagger for sure, but Robert Plant is on my list too.

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | December 9, 2010 11:14 PM | Report abuse

You guys are right...

Close to 7k in YDs and 40+ TDs should put CP in and every season he was healthy (4 of 7) he went over 1250 Yds.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 9, 2010 11:26 PM | Report abuse

Annoying to see Jeff Fisher mess up clock mgmt. As soon as Tenn got into FG territory with 56 secs left and a TO, should have kicked the FG and gone for onside kick ... but nooooooooo.

And Millen is claiming to be so smart about wanting to kick it with 32 secs left. I swear, amazing how clueless people that should know better really are.

Never understood why teams down 9 or 10, needing 2 scores, think they need to get the TD first. Its dumb football.

so Tenn scores the TD on the last play of the game ... AND loses.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 9, 2010 11:30 PM | Report abuse

zeke- agreed. Coaches routinely mess up those types of decisions. Such as that, challenges, and going for the two point cov early in games.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 9, 2010 11:34 PM | Report abuse

LF59---No--great, great player, just didnt play long enough w/ the Skins, wasn't drafted and team wasn't that good when he played, but i love the his like ken harvey who is in, so maybe

CP26--No--close, but the last 2 yrs have hurt him, literally, wasnt drafted by Skins

CS60---Maybe

a chance in the future

BO98
LL30
TW71
CC47

in other words the only players we should bother keeping

Posted by: retroskins14 | December 9, 2010 11:40 PM | Report abuse

Best Frontman:

a) Freddie Mercury
b) Mick Jagger
c) Steve Perry

Posted by: rickyroge | December 9, 2010 10:51 PM |

James Hetfield and Robert Plant should be on that list but the answer is e) Mike Patton.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | December 9, 2010 11:40 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and a list of frontmen can not be complete without Jim Morrison on it.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | December 9, 2010 11:42 PM | Report abuse

Talked a lot about Ken Harvey up here, but what about Wilber Marshall?

Rightly remembered first as a Bear, but he had a great five-year run as a Redskin. He was first team All-Pro and defensive player of the year in '92 and won a title with us. I say he oughta go in.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 10, 2010 12:03 AM | Report abuse

Hold up, how the hell is Monte Coleman not already in the Ring of Whatever?

Drafted and spent 16 years as a Redskin, including all three championships. I don't care if he never went to a stupid Pro Bowl, Monte Coleman should be the next dude into the Ring. Good grief, if he's not in there, what the hell is it for?

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 10, 2010 12:16 AM | Report abuse

Yep, Marshall and Coleman should be there.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | December 10, 2010 12:21 AM | Report abuse

Agree with both Monty and Wilbur

Wilbur's resume. Joined us in 1988

3× Pro Bowl selection (1986, 1987, 1992)
2× First-team All-Pro selection (1986, 1992)
1× Second-team All-Pro selection (1991)
1992 NFC Defensive Player of the Year
1993 NFL Alumni Linebacker of the Year
1992 NFLPA NFC Linebacker of the Year
1993 NFLPA NFC Linebacker of the Year
70 Greatest Redskins

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 10, 2010 12:35 AM | Report abuse

Hold up, how the hell is Monte Coleman not already in the Ring of Whatever?

Drafted and spent 16 years as a Redskin, including all three championships. I don't care if he never went to a stupid Pro Bowl, Monte Coleman should be the next dude into the Ring. Good grief, if he's not in there, what the hell is it for?

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 10, 2010 12:16 AM

Monte Coleman was badass that's for sure. He was one fast Dude. The one problem is, of the 16 years, how many was he a starter? Not many. ST standout and a situational player.

Wish we had him now...

Posted by: edvar | December 10, 2010 12:51 AM | Report abuse

edvar, you're right about that --

profootballreference doesn't note their criteria for this, but they list starters for every season, and Monte is only listed as a defensive starter in 5 of his 16 seasons. Guessing that's based on the opening day depth chart.

And he only started 62 games total, out of 215 games in his career. That's pretty darn low.

I guess this is another case of the haze of memory preventing me from seeing that this beloved dude maybe wasn't a true standout on the field.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 10, 2010 1:17 AM | Report abuse

cam newton will be a 2nd rd pick!! He is a spread qb. Think a dumber version of jason campbell with better legs and a worse arm! Much rather draft a high football iq QB, that already has played in a pro style offense that could start by the end of 2011 or start in 2012!

Posted by: warriorking111285 | December 10, 2010 1:49 AM | Report abuse

How 'bout instituting the (Rosy) Ring of Dishonor, to commemorate all the A*holes who got big money here to do nothing? The names could be inscribed in every urinal and toilet in FedEx. Motto: "Something to aim for".

Nominees?

Posted by: pyrotech | December 10, 2010 1:53 AM | Report abuse

cam newton will be a 2nd rd pick!! He is a spread qb. Think a dumber version of jason campbell with better legs and a worse arm! Much rather draft a high football iq QB, that already has played in a pro style offense that could start by the end of 2011 or start in 2012! A qb that would fit this style of wco that has a stronger arm and accuracy skills! Hell even lmao trade for Tebow before newton lol since he sat on the bench while Tebow dazzled in the spread offense!

Posted by: warriorking111285 | December 10, 2010 1:54 AM | Report abuse

Wilber was a fast-fire comet that won us a Super Bowl, but Monte Coleman was a slow-burn Warrior that lasted a while..Both deserve Redskin Glory...

And to all you anti- American Democracy idiot vampires that squeak and squail against Assange exposing your criminal vampire a**es to the Sun and World, for every Assange martyr killed, ten thousand will grow, you stupid, arrogant greedy pieces of sh**te...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSATP_Yw_g8

Posted by: frak | December 10, 2010 1:56 AM | Report abuse

lmao colt brennan even with his weak arm put up some monster numbers(better than newton) in the spread O! Lol pass on newton he will be a waste of a pick will prolly end up a tall rb or a beefy wr!

Posted by: warriorking111285 | December 10, 2010 1:58 AM | Report abuse

the best all time frontman is James Maynard Keenen of Tool, Apc and Pucsifer! He is a rock god hands down! Harvard grad is a freak he beats ANY POP ROCKER!

Posted by: warriorking111285 | December 10, 2010 2:03 AM | Report abuse

jim morrison is freaking awesome also

Posted by: warriorking111285 | December 10, 2010 2:06 AM | Report abuse

Maynard is pretty much a modern day Morrison tho

Posted by: warriorking111285 | December 10, 2010 2:09 AM | Report abuse

It'll be good to be close to having all hands on deck Sunday, but I don't see the point in playing Torain now that the season is just about over...this is a guy with an injury history and I'd rather see him get back to 100% and ready to roll for 2011 than to risk further injury in what amounts to exhibition games. Plus I'd like to see more from Davis and Williams to see if there's a future with them beyond this season.

Going back to some of yesterday's "news", glad to see Haslett lean into AH a bit...it just chaps my ass they couldn't get tough on this guy earlier. Might have actually helped us a bit from a chemistry standpoint even if it didn't show up in the w/l column...

Anyone else completely fatigued from this team's performance the last couple weeks? I have ZERO energy for this game Sunday...

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 10, 2010 5:21 AM | Report abuse

Going back to some of yesterday's "news", glad to see Haslett lean into AH a bit...it just chaps my ass they couldn't get tough on this guy earlier. Might have actually helped us a bit from a chemistry standpoint even if it didn't show up in the w/l column...


Posted by: brownwood26


I have to think the team did get tough on AH behind closed doors early on, This is now just more in the open. Yes rather James Davis show us what he's got. Seems to have some quickness an asset the team is in short supply of.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | December 10, 2010 5:53 AM | Report abuse

Going back to some of yesterday's "news", glad to see Haslett lean into AH a bit...it just chaps my ass they couldn't get tough on this guy earlier. Might have actually helped us a bit from a chemistry standpoint even if it didn't show up in the w/l column...

Anyone else completely fatigued from this team's performance the last couple weeks? I have ZERO energy for this game Sunday...

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 10, 2010 5:21 AM

Agree on the zero energy. I hadn't really thought about it but, yeah, I'm at the "so what?" point.

Not sure what you mean about getting tough on AH. I thought they started tough with him from the moment he put on his pads and they gave him the conditioning test. All the complaints have been that they were too tough on him -- this is the first I've seen not tough enough. What is new in the last few days is the extent to which Haynesworth has been defiant.

Posted by: beep-beep | December 10, 2010 7:06 AM | Report abuse

Beep, I mean they're only now starting to get vocal about how he's been screwing up. If he's been this bad all along, I don't see the point of continuing on with the guy. Has says he can't be pleased by anything, doesn't cooperate, etc. So why get fed up in Week 14 instead of Week 1? Or Week 4? Or just before the trade deadline when you could have a 4th round pick to get rid of the headache?

I guess I'm just frustrated that all this tough guy talk comes long after they could have REALLY done something about it...

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 10, 2010 7:30 AM | Report abuse

beep- beep

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 10, 2010 7:45 AM | Report abuse

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