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Should the Redskins seek another running back this season?

New Redskins top back Ryan Torain has made one career start, and backup Chad Simpson was primarily a special teams player during his first two seasons in the NFL. Rookie Keiland Williams, who is on the practice squad but could rejoin the 53-man roster for Sunday's game against Green Bay, committed a blunder on special teams that led to a blocked punt in the loss to the St. Louis Rams.

It would seem the Redskins need to sign an out-of-work veteran back or make a trade while hoping Clinton Portis recovers from a third-degree groin tear this season.

Torain ran hard in the victory over Philadelphia, but he has a history of injuries. Simpson was out of the league until the Redskins signed him. He was cut by both Buffalo and Indianapolis earlier this year.

Of course, Torain could stay physically sound for the remainder of the season, and perhaps Simpson and Williams surprise in backup roles. And the reality is that the available people out there are not considered difference-makers. Willie Parker failed to make the opening 53-man roster, and Larry Johnson was cut after two games and five rushes.

By Jason Reid  | October 7, 2010; 10:25 AM ET
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They have 2 options, Parker and Johnson. Neither is appealing to me. I say go with the kids hope one works out. You don't get these guys experience by having em sit on the sidelines and only play special teams.

Posted by: alex35332 | October 7, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

so i read about portis' injury that something came "off the bone". [insert crude joke here.] anyway, does anyone know what they're talking about, specifically? i mean is it a tendon from a leg muscle that's "off the bone"? ligaments holding the femur to the pelvis?

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | October 7, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

Should the Redskins seek another running back this season?

By Jason Reid | October 7, 2010; 10:25 AM ET

So now JReid is asking us questions? This is getting rediculous.

Posted by: PlayAction | October 7, 2010 10:31 AM | Report abuse

Shanahan's ground attack is notorious for taking late round picks and undrafted players and making them household names. They're fine with what they've got.

I didn't realize Nick Collins is supposed to be out for GB as well...if we play our cards right, we could have another day offensively like we did against the Texans. Here's hoping the defense holds up its end of the bargain this time...

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 7, 2010 10:33 AM | Report abuse

At least JReid seemed to come to his senses with the last paragraph.

To answer your "question" JR, NO WE DO NOT NEED AN OUT OF WORK VETERAN.

Posted by: stevek20147 | October 7, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Anywho, over/under on holds on Orakpo? I say 3. Any takers?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 7, 2010 10:26

he will get held more than that but i say only 2 get called. i also say big al will cause at least 2 holding calls

Posted by: jm220

Posted by: jm220 | October 7, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Sign Shawnbrey McNeal to the practice squad to see what he's got.

He got high praise from the Chargers staff during the offseason as a possible replacement for Darren Sproles, but they team decided to carry only 2 RB's on the final roster. He's 5'10" 195 and runs very powerfully for his size. He's got lots of potential as a 3rd down back.

Posted by: brown2hm | October 7, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Should the Redskins seek another running back this season?

Does Jason Taylor ring a bell? No need to rush out and sign someone like we did with Jason Taylor and later hate it. Not like CP is done for the year. T- Train can hold it down until he return.

Posted by: jm220 | October 7, 2010 10:40 AM | Report abuse

might be worth seeing what Tennessee would want in return for Javon Ringer.

Maybe trade one former Spartan for another.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | October 7, 2010 10:43 AM | Report abuse

"Anywho, over/under on holds on Orakpo? I say 3. Any takers?"

This question might be an easy one given that this is a redskin blog.

And so, pick tthe best young 'backer from the 2009 draft:

a. Brian Cushing

b. Clay Matthews, jr.

c. Brian Orakpo


Moe rolls with Brian Matthews, jr.

That way, you get the best of three guys.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 7, 2010 10:44 AM | Report abuse

Does Jason Taylor ring a bell? No need to rush out and sign someone like we did with Jason Taylor and later hate it. Not like CP is done for the year. T- Train can hold it down until he return.

Posted by: jm220 | October 7, 2010 10:40 AM


I don't see where JT correlates...he didn't ask "Should the Redskins blow two picks on an over the hill RB on the tail end of his career?"...he asked if we should add another RB. Technically, we have to because I don't think Keiland Williams has been promoted from the practice squad yet. So unless you want Sellers running the ball, we have to add another RB.

Now, if WHO we add is the question, all I know is that young and cheap is the way to go.

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 7, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse

Should the Redskins seek another running back this season?


We offered the idea for this yesterday, and will make the same list for today:

Javon Ringer

Jerrious Norwood

Derrick Ward

Laguerrte Blount

Marshawn Lynch

Tim Hightower

...and that's a start.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 7, 2010 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Wouldn't it make more sense to pursue a WR?

Posted by: ash10 | October 7, 2010 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Now, if WHO we add is the question, all I know is that young and cheap is the way to go.

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 7, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse

we talking running backs or women?

Posted by: alex35332 | October 7, 2010 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Even Redskin haters like Baldinger are giving the Skins their props:

http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/10/06/torain-could-be-next-great-find-by-shanahan/

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 7, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

Haynesworth and DT11 for Jonathan Stewart?

Posted by: ash10 | October 7, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse

"...all I know is that young and cheap is the way to go...."


This comment reads like advice pedophiles share before taking a sex tour to Mexico.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 7, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Some of our old "homegrown" talent at RB:


Drew Brees can't say enough about RB Ladell Betts


METAIRIE, La. (AP) — New Orleans quarterback Drew Brees says you can't put a number on the value of Ladell Betts.

At least not after Sunday's victory over winless Carolina.

Brees said Monday that while Betts only had 47 rushing yards and four catches for 23 yards, the running back was the MVP of the offense in the Saints' surprisingly close 16-14 victory.

"He was awesome," Brees said.

Heady words about a player who had not even been on the roster for two full weeks and hadn't played in a regular season game since tearing the ACL and MCL in his left knee against Dallas last November when he was with the Washington Redskins.

The 31-year-old Betts signed with New Orleans in August as veteran insurance when backup running back Lynell Hamilton sustained a season-ending knee injury in the preseason opener. Betts did not survive the final cut, but the Saints re-signed him on Sept. 22 after Reggie Bush fractured a fibula in his right leg against San Francisco.

When leading rusher Pierre Thomas sat out Sunday because of a sprained ankle, Betts took advantage of the opportunity.

Rotating with untested rookie Chris Ivory, he accounted for a team-high five first downs and consistently put the Saints in short-yardage situations. On one play, he caught a swing pass and bowled over two defenders near the sideline for an 8-yard gain to move the chains.

Posted by: Alan4 | October 7, 2010 10:58 AM | Report abuse

"Haynesworth and DT11 for Jonathan Stewart?"

Let me clean this up.

"Jeremy Jarmon and DT11 for Jonathan Stewert"

That's more like it.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 7, 2010 11:03 AM | Report abuse

"Haynesworth and DT11 for Jonathan Stewart?"

Let me clean this up.

"Jeremy Jarmon and DT11 for Jonathan Stewert"

That's more like it.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 7, 2010 11:03 AM | Report abuse

This isn't fantasy football. Why would they even concider that. Jarmon has done nothing and neither had DT11. Stewart being a full time RB would put up 1300-1500 yards.

Posted by: ash10 | October 7, 2010 11:06 AM | Report abuse

IMO yes, you need to add another back, but also IMO it aint used to be fast Willie or LJ.

My first vote would be to just bring up K. Will and roll with Torain and Williams. But, if they are thinking about a trade, call Carolina, they are 0 and 4, they are desperate for receivers and pass rush, they're a 4-3 team, and they have a back in the last year of his contract with a younger back with committed $ behind him, see if they have interest in Carter, Thomas, and/or Roydell Williams and perhaps a mid round pick for Deangelo Williams, anything more than 4th no dice, but if they could package DT11 or Roydell with Carter, and a mid pick IMO jump in it!

Posted by: zjfr2 | October 7, 2010 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Shawne Merriman could be gone before end of Chargers' season
Posted by Michael David Smith on October 7, 2010 11:04 AM ET
Chargers linebacker Shawne Merriman has already missed two games this season and doesn't have a sack yet in 2010. And he might not contribute any more to the Chargers this year, either.

Kevin Acee of the San Diego Union-Tribune reports that Merriman may not remain a Charger much longer.

According to Acee, Merriman is on the trade block. But realistically, it's hard to see why any team would trade anything for him. Although Merriman was once among the league's best pass rushers, he has a grand total of four sacks in the last three seasons.

The fact that Merriman wouldn't have provide value to any other team is a reminder, however, that Merriman doesn't provide much value to the Chargers, either. Acee also floats the idea that the Chargers could release Merriman during the season, which would be a rather stunning move considering that Merriman just signed his one-year, $3.269 million tender less than two months ago.

Chargers General Manager A.J. Smith isn't the type to keep players around when they're no longer valuable, and Merriman hasn't given the Chargers anything of value so far this season.

DT11 for Merriman?

Posted by: ash10 | October 7, 2010 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Alan4 | October 7, 2010 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Good for him. The Redskins were still right not to bring him back though.

The odds are heavily against 31 yr old RBs coming back from ACL and MCL surgeries.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | October 7, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Stewart being a full time RB would put up 1300-1500 yards.

Posted by: ash10 | October 7, 2010 11:06 AM

1500 yards in how may years? Stewart averaging 3.2 ypc...DeAngelo 4.8 ypc...no thanks.

Posted by: PlayAction | October 7, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Everyone forget about the beeps?

REPOST

Anywho, over/under on holds on Orakpo? I say 3. Any takers?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 7, 2010 10:26 AM

Do you mean the number of penalties he draws, or the number of times he gets held? Orakpo is the most held Redskin since Charles Mann.

Posted by: MColeman51 | October 7, 2010 10:31 AM

I mean how many times he causes a holding penalty on the other team. We could argue how many holds but it'll be difficult to count non calls.

It'll be interesting to see how many Clay Matthews generates...especially if Trent isn't in there.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 7, 2010 11:06 AM

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 7, 2010 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Chris Ivy looked better then Betts in the NO game.

peeps here would constantly b_tch about J Stewart he normally has some sort of ailment. 1300-1500 yds??? not with this line.


DT for Andre Johnson since were throwing them out there.

Posted by: Stu27 | October 7, 2010 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Stewart being a full time RB would put up 1300-1500 yards.

Posted by: ash10 | October 7, 2010 11:06 AM

1500 yards in how may years? Stewart averaging 3.2 ypc...DeAngelo 4.8 ypc...no thanks.

Posted by: PlayAction | October 7, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse

that's a small sample. Last year 5.1 avg, 2008 4.5.

Teams know they can't pass this year. He rushed for almost 1200 last year splitting time with DW

Posted by: ash10 | October 7, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Stewart being a full time RB would put up 1300-1500 yards.

Posted by: ash10 | October 7, 2010 11:06 AM

1500 yards in how may years? Stewart averaging 3.2 ypc...DeAngelo 4.8 ypc...no thanks.

Posted by: PlayAction | October 7, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Williams is the one they would trade if they trade anyone. Williams is in the final year of his deal and Carolina is a cheap franchise, they don't want to pay him. Stewart is under contract and younger, they aren't going to trade him and have to then pay big bucks to keep Williams. IMO Williams is the better of the two but the $ is what matters here, and Carolina doesn't spend it, Peppers anyone?

Posted by: zjfr2 | October 7, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

"DT for Andre Johnson since were throwing them out there."

All kidding aside, I think the best fill-in back for us is Tashard Choice.

And you know Jerrah Jones is not going to part with him or Felix Jones--two very capable, but underutilized running backs on the cowboys' roster.

The back I like the most is Alabama's sophomore Trent Richardson: that kid has size, power, balance, and speed.

Sadly, it'll be 2012-13 before he's ready to stop helping Nick Saban stay rich.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 7, 2010 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Now, if WHO we add is the question, all I know is that young and cheap is the way to go.

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 7, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse

Just how I like my women!!!

Posted by: monk811 | October 7, 2010 11:21 AM | Report abuse

DT11 for Merriman?

He!l no and why?

Posted by: swalker5 | October 7, 2010 11:23 AM | Report abuse

UPDATE: Jay Glazer of Fox Sports tweets that the Patriots might want to consider making a trade offer for Carolina wide receiver Steve Smith, now that Randy Moss has been shipped out of town. With the 0-4 Panthers in danger of slipping into major rebuilding mode, they may want to listen if the Pats were to call about Smith. New England has the necessary ammo (lots of 2011 draft picks) to get any deal done.

Michael Lombardi of NFL.com writes that he doesn't see a Vincent Jackson-to-the-Patriots deal happening, adding that Jackson doesn't seem like a fit for the team because of his off-the-field issues.

There's also been speculation from the Buffalo News that Lee Evans may be the one heading to Foxborough, although his current $8 million per year salary is tough to swallow.

---

With the ashes of the Moss trade still smoldering, let's take a look at some of his fellow wide receivers that may still be traded.

The first man up is San Diego Chargers holdout Jackson. There was a special circumstance with Jackson, in that there was a chance for an acquiring team to lessen his suspension if they were able to make a trade before a Sept. 22 deadline. That didn't happen, and with Jackson's "biggest pursuer off the table," in the words of ESPN AFC West scribe Bill Williamson, the chances of his trade may be reduced.

But what if they'd rather expend their ammo in another direction? ESPN AFC East blogger Tim Graham wondered on Tuesday in the wake of the Marshawn Lynch trade whether any other veterans would be moved by the Buffalo Bills. His speculative list included Evans, whose development in the league has been hampered by less-than-stellar QB play. Evans would certainly be able to fill the Pats' new hole opposite Brandon Tate.

Let's also not forget that the Pats aren't the only team in play here. Although they're a little draft pick-poor right now, the Washington Redskins remain WR-needy. It'll be interesting to see if their need for pass-catchers trumps the concern about mortgaging their future even further. The Carolina Panthers are another team in need of WRs, although they're already without a second-rounder in 2011, and appear to be committed to building from within.

- Tim Kavanagh

Posted by: ash10 | October 7, 2010 11:24 AM | Report abuse

If Torain doesn't improve in blitz pick-up we will also see the introduction to the Rex Grossman era.

Posted by: bangkokben | October 7, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

DT11 for Sims-Walker?

Posted by: ash10 | October 7, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

I say the Redskins sign someone off another teams developmental roster. There are a few guys. In order to take a player off the developmental roster of another team, Washington will have to sign them to the regular roster. I like elevating Keiland Williams, but he really got in the dog house with his missed block on special teams. There's this guy on the Texans practice squad, Chris Ogbonnaya, who is familiar with Shanny Junior's offense and catches well out of the backfield. He played receiver and fullback in college so he's kind of a mixed bag. I like him in the spot they intended for Keiland Williams - a running back for passing downs who can pass block or swing into the flat for a quick pass.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | October 7, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

that's a small sample. Last year 5.1 avg, 2008 4.5.

Teams know they can't pass this year. He rushed for almost 1200 last year splitting time with DW

Posted by: ash10 | October 7, 2010 11:17 AM

I agree about his past numbers...but have you watched him this year...so teams only know they can't pass when Stewart's in the game? DeAngelo looks good when he's in there...Stewart not so much.

Posted by: PlayAction | October 7, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 7, 2010 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Dude come on, Mark Ingrim is a beast. What part of his game dont you like?

My wish list:
Noel Devine
Mark Ingrim
LaMichael James(ore)
John Clay(wis)
Jordan Todman
Demarco Murray


All might be avail next year James is the only soph. I would take any or all and in any order.

Posted by: Stu27 | October 7, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Colts signed RB Javarris James off the Redskins' practice squad.
Donald Brown is really struggling with his hamstring injury and appears headed for another inactive day again this week. James will only get touches behind Joseph Addai and Mike Hart in an extreme emergency.
Source: Redskins Insider on Twitter
Related: Donald Brown

Geezzz, things happen quick eh?

Posted by: ash10 | October 7, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Stu27 | October 7, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Devine over Ingram? You're crazy

Posted by: zjfr2 | October 7, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Co-sign on getting Merriman (if he's cut)...at worst, he gives us depth at OLB--something we desperately need right now.

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 7, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Well consiering i just said what a beast Ingram is and i also said any order. But yeah actually because Devine is well Devine...

Posted by: Stu27 | October 7, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

I would lean towards bringing back LJ. He's a tough blocker who can stone LBs like CP can. He's typically a good north south runner(why he ran backwards 10 yds against hou is beyond me) and knows the offense. He won't be a liability with handling the football bc he's put up probowl numbers before with terrible olines in kc. He's the best bet at a solid 3rd down/blocking back we have.

Posted by: DGreen28BestEver | October 7, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

I know hindsight is 20/20 but... I wonder what Brian Westbrook is thinking right now. He could have been the starter on a 2 win team as opposed to a back up on a no win team. SMH

Posted by: Neisha_H | October 7, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

I would lean towards bringing back LJ. He's a tough blocker who can stone LBs like CP can. He's typically a good north south runner(why he ran backwards 10 yds against hou is beyond me) and knows the offense. He won't be a liability with handling the football bc he's put up probowl numbers before with terrible olines in kc. He's the best bet at a solid 3rd down/blocking back we have.

Posted by: DGreen28BestEver | October 7, 2010 11:46 AM | Report abuse

beeps 10 mins ago

Posted by: ash10 | October 7, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Bring back Betts! As a backup he didn't do so well, but when put in as a starter he excelled.

Posted by: barrie1 | October 7, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Bring Williams back. He surely wasn't the main reason why the redskins laid that egg in St Louis.

Williams and Torain will be fine with Sellers and new guy picking up slack.

LJ was horrible, overweight and slow. DO NOT BRING HIM BACK!

DT11 for Merriman sounds good for the off-topic posts here.

Posted by: alocowboy | October 7, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Bring Williams back. He surely wasn't the main reason why the redskins laid that egg in St Louis.

Williams and Torain will be fine with Sellers and new guy picking up slack.

LJ was horrible, overweight and slow. DO NOT BRING HIM BACK!

DT11 for Merriman sounds good for the off-topic posts here.

Posted by: alocowboy | October 7, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Really, this is an easy question. Should they bring back LJ or WP? No.

Should they trade for a vet RB? No. They wouldn't get enough added value.

Should they sign someone off another team's practice squad? Definitely. Is LeGarrett Blount available?

Should they bring back K. Williams? Yes. He's the best immediate option. He missed one block. BFD. So did Fred Davis. Coach him up.

Posted by: Iamhumongous | October 7, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse

@walter-in-falls-church -- I didn't know what a groin tear is either, but I found a good description here -- http://orthopedics.about.com/cs/sprainsstrains/a/groinstrain.htm Sounds nasty.

Posted by: jbspear | October 7, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Colts signed RB Javarris James off the Redskins' practice squad.
Donald Brown is really struggling with his hamstring injury and appears headed for another inactive day again this week. James will only get touches behind Joseph Addai and Mike Hart in an extreme emergency.
Source: Redskins Insider on Twitter
Related: Donald Brown

Geezzz, things happen quick eh?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

yeah i was just going to say how we just signed him... he broke several of CP records at Miami. Oh well, pickup someone else

Posted by: vtsquirm1 | October 7, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone know the rule re: PUP list and what Malcolm Kelly's status is? I think I heard somewhere that he can come back after six games - is that right?

Posted by: fmcromwell | October 7, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

@walter-in-falls-church -- I didn't know what a groin tear is either, but I found a good description here -- http://orthopedics.about.com/cs/sprainsstrains/a/groinstrain.htm Sounds nasty.

Posted by: jbspear | October 7, 2010 1:37 PM
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thanks jbspear. that was very informative.

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | October 7, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Getting rid of Betts for some has been losers was not a smart move.

Posted by: pauljr11211 | October 8, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Come On Man; Fast Willie Parker is the answer. He was really not given a fair shake during the pre-season. During that time, the line wasn't run blocking at all and they never threw a swing past out to him. The man still has above average speed for NFL running backs and the Redskins are really in need of some speed out of the backfield. Fast Willie doesn't have to be the every down back, but will provide a change of pace for the Skins -- he can still take it to the house with the way the line is run blocking now!!!

Posted by: laboyde | October 8, 2010 6:52 PM | Report abuse

SUDDENLY in need of running backs? Really? This team has suffered from roster rot for years (thanks Sally Jenkins). They haven't drafted a running back high in years (just as until this year, they hadn't drafted an O-Lineman high in years). But we have Jason Taylor, T.J. Duckett, Mark Brunell (oh yeah, they're gone) - and Donovan McNabb (for at least the rest of this year). Anyone noticed how many picks New England always seems to have (8 in the first 4 rounds next year) - and how they always seem to stay competitive with no cap problems?

Posted by: jburnetti | October 10, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse

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