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Safety Dance

Bubba Tyer said it's too soon to know for sure how safeties Vernon Fox (groin) and Peirson Prioleau (hamstring) will respond to practice, but he would say Prioleau's injury looks less severe if you mde him choose.

With that in mind, the Skins are talking to safety Omar Stoutmire, league sources said, and I would not be surprised at all if he is the guy who ends up in Marcus Mason's vacated roster spot on Wed.

By Jason La Canfora  |  September 11, 2007; 5:37 PM ET
 
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Awesome. Thanks, Jason!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 11, 2007 5:41 PM | Report abuse

GREAT thread title, by the way.

Any time we can get a Men Without Hats reference in, that makes up for a lot of hoo-hah up here.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 11, 2007 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Thanks jasno. Great job!!

Posted by: nah | September 11, 2007 5:42 PM | Report abuse

I can't get any work done with all this news!

Posted by: Coskins | September 11, 2007 5:42 PM | Report abuse

ack, what I think the point is we will cut him post june 1 next year, take 1.75 or whateves the F it is then and move the rest to 2009.

I dont think we can absorbe the 7.5 or whateves the F it is in 2008... Sean taylor and JC need to be resigned.

See, we dont get in cap hell in any current year we are in b/c the signing bonuses of all the cut players accelarte for the next year.

I have always said we could play the game by keep pushing the cap hits out to the next year, free up the room to pay for it and then do it all over again.

Eventually the world has to end and then there will be the reaiming prorated portion that we were to owe in the cosmos and we would have won!

its late time to gtfo

Posted by: Zebra | September 11, 2007 05:43 PM

But now I see that is what you are trying to say, i think Jack.

I guess that is the real problem, your posts ramble, as mine do, and then as soon as someone says you are wrong then you get defensive and your posts become even more ramblish.

Oh well, either way, we will owe him much doloros

Posted by: Zebra | September 11, 2007 5:46 PM | Report abuse

I'm saying cut him now! and be done with him. But either way it doesn't all come due immediately unless we cut him between the super bowl and June 1st, in-season means nothing. And we'll have cap room with Arch coming of the books.

Posted by: Jack | September 11, 2007 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Jack, Zebra, bigfish, etc... one more thing on the celery cap discussion...

I AM absolutely in favor of "spending to the cap" in this year, 2007, now that we have Cooley's contract extended.

You can't take it (unused cap room) with you (to next season).

And it's not like cashflow is ever a problem for our FO.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 11, 2007 5:50 PM | Report abuse


Anybody see Lamar Marshall fly around in cincy uniform? Marvin Lewis seems to like to pick up all players that got cut by the skins...

Posted by: John From Herndon | September 11, 2007 5:50 PM | Report abuse

I still love being absolutely crushed by people called tons of names, and told to stick things in places and then those people all find out they're wrong and stop talking.....no apologies?

Posted by: Jack | September 11, 2007 5:52 PM | Report abuse

One of those 5:41 posts had to be fake Nate. Loseable type will not allow more than one post in a one minute timspan.

Posted by: bigfish | September 11, 2007 5:53 PM | Report abuse

quick, everyone cut and paste your last argument from the previous thread and resume it right here!

Posted by: Dorf | September 11, 2007 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Ok, So your saying cut him now but you were also making points about cutting him next year.

Either way, i get what you are saying, now or later; we can do it. I think ST and JC will demand pretty hefty salaries, and maybe by some miracle we can get some production out of him and then trade him.

Wishful thinking, im outta here!

Posted by: Zebra | September 11, 2007 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Jack, I'm sorry.

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Posted by: Anonymous | September 11, 2007 5:55 PM | Report abuse

What kind of dOOd feels the need to impersonate up in here? weird weird weird

To anon imposter, go pick up your Mom, her bridge game is over.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 11, 2007 5:55 PM | Report abuse

Do I have to be a first grade Ref and have the fighting kids come together for a hand shake and an Im sorry... ;)

Jack, 4-12, A$$CLOWN and whoever else... kiss and make up.

Now I must seriously GTFO!

Posted by: Zebra | September 11, 2007 5:55 PM | Report abuse

Jack - I never told you that you were wrong. I actually did my research before commenting on the subject so no need to apologize here. And I never resort to name calling or telling people to stick things in places anyway (unless I'm driving).

Posted by: bigfish | September 11, 2007 5:56 PM | Report abuse

I think Reche spells a bench/inactive season for Lloyd which makes him worth less then a ham sandwich, so might as well get it over with and be done with the guy. But Zebra, you make a good point about JC and Taylor, although neither are pending Free Agents so unless you think they are going to hold out I don't see how it applies here.

Posted by: Jack | September 11, 2007 5:56 PM | Report abuse

And again, I know I have this Pollyanna problem, but maybe just maybe Brandon Lloyd will turn out to be a contributing member of the team. He only had a few balls thrown his way Sunday, probably being considered as our #4 receiver on most pass plays (after Moss, ARE, Cooley).

Sure, you want him to convert every single opportunity, but how many times did Soup throw to Lloyd? Two? Three?

Santana looked terrible, too, and Cooley made one (critical) catch, but we're willing to write those off because we know how brilliant those dudes can be.

What I'm saying is the passing game was not exactly humming along on all cylinders on Sunday, which magnifies Lloyd's failure to do anything. Maybe if he keeps getting chances he can do something. Maybe.

I'm saying all this because I don't believe he gets cut this season, and he's not going to do us one iota of good from the bench...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 11, 2007 5:56 PM | Report abuse

So sorry Jack.

Posted by: Dorf | September 11, 2007 5:57 PM | Report abuse

My gut tells me when Janso returns to funny references on his post titles.....the bro is BACK!

Posted by: chrIr LaRry | September 11, 2007 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Jack, I didn't call you any names, either. I have been called a "hillybilly," a "nitwit," and other stuff, but I don't call other people names.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 11, 2007 5:58 PM | Report abuse

My apologies Jack.

Posted by: Dorf | September 11, 2007 5:58 PM | Report abuse

FYI: We are about to reach 91,570...

Posted by: MV Dame | September 11, 2007 5:59 PM | Report abuse

If we dont get them done prior to next season, we will have to pay more to keep them outta FA. And to do so might mean some good moneys up front. And we back load every contract with hefty signings up front.

I would rather just sit him like they did with TO. 4 games, let him practice but make him inactive.

Then tell him he gets one chance to make some plays, and if not, then sit him the rest of the year... wait until just b4 the next season and cut his a$$ and hope no one wants a reciever.

Posted by: Zebra | September 11, 2007 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Dorf, if your serious I actually appreciate it. And bigfish, I'm not asking for an apology from you, basically just K-squared a$$clown, 4-12, and the rest of the people who called me stupid, an idiot, and were very vulgar. Its just not necessary, I've never called anybody a name, and can fully admit when I'm wrong, we're all here because we love the Skins, that kinda hate is just not cool.

Posted by: Jack | September 11, 2007 5:59 PM | Report abuse

J-La you are EN FUEGO today! Nice. I can't even keep up with threads or posts or nuthin so aplogies if I repeat dead horses.

I did mention on last thread the Niners fans are prattling about a 3rd rounder from us for Kwame Harris. I think it is hoohaw but one never knows unless one is the Shadow.

Posted by: sfskin | September 11, 2007 6:00 PM | Report abuse

Zebra,

I am concerned your wife is going to accuse you of having an affair. Go home, bro!

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 11, 2007 6:00 PM | Report abuse

Sorry Jack. Can we be friends?

Posted by: Vince Young | September 11, 2007 6:01 PM | Report abuse

Pardon me, Jack.

Posted by: Dorf | September 11, 2007 6:01 PM | Report abuse

Great, great day up here
Blogging our effing guts out
Can barely keep count

Posted by: MV Dame | September 11, 2007 6:01 PM | Report abuse

Zebra, your right and I agree. I like the way they handled the Cooley and Betts extensions and would like to see that with JC and Taylor too.

Posted by: Jack | September 11, 2007 6:01 PM | Report abuse

Funny SC;

She knows about the blog, she was really moved about 4th floors story, she can come up here and see my posts.. now she does get on me saying its not work, but who cares! Now I am done

Posted by: Zebra | September 11, 2007 6:02 PM | Report abuse

JLaC took some time to feed the hamsters today, Dame. We are seriously coked up with insider info.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 11, 2007 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Also nice of the Niners to rename Monster Park Bill Walsh park oh wait no I'm sorry just the field is named after Bill Walsh and oh wait this sucker is going to get blown up in a few years when they move to Nevada so while I appreciate the sentiment it's just a wee bit cheap.

Posted by: sfskin | September 11, 2007 6:03 PM | Report abuse

bigfish, this is the real Nate, and both of those 5:41 posts were really me.

I have never seen two posts within a minute of each other, and like everybody else I assumed it was not allowed by our LT (as opposed to the other LTs).

Karmic payback for having my name spoofed up here?

Winged unicorn sighting?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 11, 2007 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Didn't call you a name jack. I said if you turned out to be a "d-bag" and got cut... the reference being to Receiver, The.

Posted by: 4-12 | September 11, 2007 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Nice try fake Nate:-)

Posted by: bigfish | September 11, 2007 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Vince and Dorf, its cool, ya'll were hardly the worst offenders, actually the worst ones disappeared when they realized they were wrong.

Posted by: Jack | September 11, 2007 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Sorry Jack. I wasn't being serious because I don't think I said anything to you before the meltdown of communication. I must say you maintained a fairly classy disposition for ruffling so many feathers about the cap room. I don't claim to know any of those details so I was staying out of it. The blog got a little out of hand in the last few hours so I thought I'd be a peacemaker.

As long as you stick around to defend your arguments, I got no beef with you. To many "yes men" up here sometimes. I use the RI as a great way to procrastinate on things and am very guilty of talking a bunch of non redskins nonsense.

Posted by: Dorf | September 11, 2007 6:06 PM | Report abuse

The verdict is still out as far as I'm concerned as to who is right or wrong on this one... email Jason and he'll clear it up. Like it was said before, he's good for it.

Posted by: Dorf | September 11, 2007 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Yes, Dorf!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 11, 2007 6:09 PM | Report abuse

2013 - "Welcome to the season opener. We're here today to watch the Reno 49ers of San Francisco in California take Bill Walsh Field in the new Steve Wynn Stadium on Coca Cola acres right next to the beautiful McDonald's Parking lot structure on Sprint meadows which can be accessed via ETrade Avenue. I'm Al Michaels along with John Madden here in the Yahoo call booth which sits right above the Lexus shaded club seats not to be mistaken with the Toyota club seats in the sun. And your final score is the Reno 49ers of San Francisco California 28 and the Arizona Cardinals 21."

Posted by: sfskin | September 11, 2007 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Let's get this straight, jackass. You want the team to take a 7 mill + cap hit next year? For a guy who won't even be here, just to get it over with.

Your logic is retarded. Much like you coming on a blog and asking peeps not to use profanity, for fear your children may see it.

You have been a horse's ass from your first post, righ through your incessant arguing stage, when blog peeps were telling you to just shut up or give it up already.

Clearly, you don't get it. Never have, never will. DULT.

Posted by: k Squared | September 11, 2007 05:57 PM

Sorry if you missed this Jacky.

Posted by: k Squared | September 11, 2007 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Jack,

I don't believe that you're right. And the cap space numbers you were relying on are obsolete with the Caldwell signing and with whatever signing they're making tomorrow.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 11, 2007 6:09 PM | Report abuse

EIGHT posts today by the Janso Banso. I'm impressed.

Posted by: Postmaster | September 11, 2007 6:11 PM | Report abuse

All righty, k Squared, I think we all pretty much agree that Jack has trouble playing nicely up here. Let's move on, dude.

It's a long life, we might as well enjoy it a little.

hail.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 11, 2007 06:00 PM

Sorry if you missed this, k Squared.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 11, 2007 6:11 PM | Report abuse

ah... so this is Jack from "SJK"

I never put it all together.

LMGO.

Posted by: Dorf | September 11, 2007 6:11 PM | Report abuse

I don't mind disagreement, and I've long since come to realize that my realism/cynicism about this owner/front office isn't appreciated here, and I welcome debate and usually can admit when I'm wrong. I do really hate the name calling and "the your wrong the redskins are the best!" backed by no logical reasoning that can be here sometimes, but for the most part I enjoy talking about the skins on here and have come to realize the jerks will always be there.

As its stands now though, we get Philly with no Lito and the Giants with no QB or RB, can you say 3-0 heading to the bye baby!!!

Posted by: Jack | September 11, 2007 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Nate - I'd love to play positive on the Receiver as well but I think I said it earlier in the week or at least thought it. . .how do you trust this guy on the field at this point?
That INT was big in that he gave up on the play, didn't tackle and thus not only was it an INT but it was a missed TD.

*sigh*

Oh and I haven't said it yet but so EXCITED to have Sallie Mae back in the house. Where is Megskin?

Posted by: sfskin | September 11, 2007 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Why oh why would the Seahawks take Frye? I mean I know they want a back up for Hasselback so Wallace can play PR and WR but seriously? Hasselback is supposedly 100% back from injury but there is always a bit of a ? and so do you want this guy as back up?
On the other hand Holmgren does seem to get make a little magic at the QB position.

Posted by: sfskin | September 11, 2007 6:15 PM | Report abuse

Point taken Nate. You're right and I'm wrong. Letting it go.

Posted by: k Squared | September 11, 2007 6:15 PM | Report abuse

more ::hugs:: are needed up here.

Posted by: Dorf | September 11, 2007 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Is anyone else as sick of all the sportsperts crawling up the Pats a$$ and setting up camp in awe of Brady-Moss?

Yes impressive blah blah blah but it's not the second coming. sheesh

Posted by: sfskin | September 11, 2007 6:17 PM | Report abuse

K squared, you ought to spend some time on that anger man, if you look back, I've been nothing but positive since the Kendall trade. I'm excited about this team and think it has a shot in a weak NFC East. And I'm sorry, they deserved criticism after a 5-11 season and the O-line debacle. And yeah, they're gonna have to take the hit on him sometime, or do you just want to keep here and never be rid of him?

Posted by: Jack | September 11, 2007 6:17 PM | Report abuse

on another unrelated note, it doesn't get any better than Tchaikovsky's Violin Concerto in D major. It blows my mind.

Posted by: Dorf | September 11, 2007 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Did we already discuss David Boston roofy-ing himself?

Posted by: sfskin | September 11, 2007 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Jack - You're alright with me. Besides we could use more Chris Larry-esque spice up here. Gives us things (thongs) to debate.

I hereby proclaim my love for everyone on the blog.

Posted by: bigfish | September 11, 2007 6:19 PM | Report abuse

POSTED 6:01 p.m. EDT, September 11, 2007

PATS GUILTY OF CHEATING

Chris Mortensen of ESPN reports that NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell has concluded that the New England Patriots violated league rules when videotaping defensive signals being sent in from the sidelines by Jets coaches during Sunday's game at the Meadowlands.

NFL Security confiscated a camera and videotape from Pats employee Matt Estrella, a video assistant. Mort says that the evidence that was confiscated confirmed the suspicion.

And the punishment could be severe.

Mortensen reports that Goodell is considering the possibility of stripping the team of "multiple draft picks," given that he has issued a stern warning to all teams to avoid such behavior.

Posted by: 4th via PFT.com | September 11, 2007 6:20 PM | Report abuse

Re: Boston on Roofy. MAybe someone was trying to date rape him?

Posted by: 4th Floor | September 11, 2007 6:23 PM | Report abuse

YES! I'm sick of all the Pats a$$ kissing too!
It's week one! How quickly people forget that teams typically rise and fall throughout the season (except the colts). If the pats keep this up for another 10 weeks then I'll be a believer.

Posted by: coskins | September 11, 2007 6:23 PM | Report abuse

holy shti...the Pats cheating scandal calls into question all of the their recent domination and Brady's "knack" for finding open receivers....this is huge guys.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 11, 2007 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Mort was saying that this morning about how the Pats were going to have to suffer greatly for their sin. At some point in the afternoon, I read on NFL.com (not sure where) while procrastinating that it wasn't going to be so big a deal.

Why don't we wait and see... I'm weary of reporters trying to break huge stories before anyone else and not getting the facts straight. (Not even sure how Jasno does on that one, I love his Kool~Aid too much.)

Posted by: Dorf | September 11, 2007 6:24 PM | Report abuse

I'm out for the day, peace to all the haters, go get hug from somebody.

Posted by: Jack | September 11, 2007 6:25 PM | Report abuse

As I think I said up here last night, I hesitate piling on ole' Jacko, although I often don't agree with him. It just seems to easy, like bear baiting.

Jack, my man, your tone (name calling or no) just comes off kind of strange, and to be so brutish arguing a ridiculous point like the cap hit that cutting B Lloyd is worth it is well...silly...

My free advice, and I give b/c I dig your passion, is mellow out a bit...crack some jokes, drop the "I am the only one that gets it" stance and just BYGO baby

Posted by: chriS Larry | September 11, 2007 6:25 PM | Report abuse

CL just made another shirt idea for you Nate.

"BYGO baby!"

Posted by: Dorf | September 11, 2007 6:30 PM | Report abuse

I am here before the "first"

Posted by: Anonymous | September 11, 2007 6:30 PM | Report abuse

reche Caldwell was a No. 1 last year for New England (albeit an inferior No. 1). Does anyone else think the best outcome might be for Caldwell to be the No. 2 and move Randel El back into the slot. I think ARE showed he can handle the load of being No. 2 last week, but by allaccounts he is most effective as a slot receiver.

Caldwell probably won't play this week since he won't know the system. Any chance Lloyd (as No.3) finally blows up and pulls in 2-3 touchdowns just for spite? Sort of a "bench me now b**ches"

Posted by: Mike H. | September 11, 2007 6:30 PM | Report abuse

If the Pats have to end up giving up draft picks, where or who do they go to? And if this is true then we need aan asterisk in the record books beside their SB wins. Funny that the Colts banned all on field cameras for the AFC Championship game last year and the Pats ended up losing.

Posted by: bigfish | September 11, 2007 6:30 PM | Report abuse

"Any chance Lloyd (as No.3) finally blows up and pulls in 2-3 touchdowns just for spite? Sort of a "bench me now b**ches""

I guess anything is possible but this? I wouldn't complain.

Posted by: bigfish | September 11, 2007 6:32 PM | Report abuse

Back from my self imposed time out. *hugs*

Posted by: 4-12 | September 11, 2007 6:38 PM | Report abuse

*sigh* off to a union meeting.

Try not to throw up 1000 more posts before I come back. 700 or so I can handle. : )

Posted by: sfskin | September 11, 2007 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Caldwell probably won't play this week since he won't know the system. Any chance Lloyd (as No.3) finally blows up and pulls in 2-3 touchdowns just for spite? Sort of a "bench me now b**ches"

Posted by: Mike H. | September 11, 2007 06:30 PM

LMGO!! this is the funniest post i have seen up here. I think it would be more likely he catches 2 or 3 throws for a few yards, but all will be lost as he is flaged for excessive celebration

Posted by: gethanr13 | September 11, 2007 6:43 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone else get the feeling that the Redskins use the polls on their website to help make decisions?

If the Redskins made a roster move, what position would you like to see addressed?


33.8%
Offensive Tackle

26.8%
Defensive End

18.1%
Wide Receiver

12.2%
Cornerback

7.2%
Other position

1.8%
Tight End

Posted by: bigfish | September 11, 2007 6:43 PM | Report abuse

CL ... no bias here. I say get rid of Lloyd. Now. My suggestion earlier was to have Samuels beat the crap of of Lloyd and then the Skins place him on IR. Cut him after the season. They will need to take the cap hit at some point. Its 'when', not 'if'. Some people are just bad to keep around. This Skins team has guys who put it out there every play. They will tolerate a guy who messes up while putting in full effort. But if you come to work everyday and watch some guy pulling down a big check that won't put in the effort ... its better to have that guy gone. Because he is not part of the team.

Posted by: AL | September 11, 2007 6:45 PM | Report abuse

bigfish- I've probably said this before up here, but short term memory and all... This restaurant by me stole your name, but they've got a great happy hour, and Sunday champagne brunch.

http://thebigfishgrille.com/

Posted by: 4-12 | September 11, 2007 6:46 PM | Report abuse

Yo Al that seems like the most sensible solution I have heard up here all day!

Maybe instead of Samuels smack down, let him play lead reciever on scout team...he'll be hurt in a few practices....as in getting caught in a malachi crunch between the reaper and Double L...

Posted by: chrIr LaRry | September 11, 2007 6:48 PM | Report abuse

Damn - That link just made me hungry and they have Skippy's favorite key lime pie.

Posted by: bigfish | September 11, 2007 6:49 PM | Report abuse

That's a good point, rather then cut him, couldn't they just place him on IR? He'd still get his money, we can replace him with taking a cap hit?

I'm not going to pretend I know too much about the cap, but couldn't this work?

Posted by: kost52 | September 11, 2007 6:51 PM | Report abuse

Reche Caldwell is the type of big, tall (210, 6-0') possession receiver the Redskins have needed for years. This is a good pickup!

I thought Mason would be on the practice squad to begin the year. Hope he makes it through waivers...

What's up with releasing LB Anthony Trucks? I thought he was better than LB Matt Sinclair. Or were they planning to promote Trucks to the active roster and shutdown Washington or Fox for a few weeks?

Posted by: siris | September 11, 2007 6:52 PM | Report abuse

It could work Kosty, but he has to have some kind of injury the league will buy...

Back in Gibbs 1 they used to stash projects on IR with hangnails, almost like a redshirt...but mainly due to Gibbs the league cracked down on that...

Remember in the movie Victory they had to intentionally break the goalie's arm so Sly Stallone could play and hatch their escape plan? Its like that...line up the forearm between some boards and give it a quick kick...for the good of t7he team and all...

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 11, 2007 6:54 PM | Report abuse

Maybe we can kick Brian Dawkins a plasma, have Soup lead Lloyd over the middle and WHAMMY! sending him to the IR

Posted by: bigfish | September 11, 2007 6:58 PM | Report abuse

you people disgust me! Wanting to intentionally hurt a receiver just because he's a no good, lazy, salary cap stealing, virus of a player??? well maybe you have a point.

Posted by: coskins | September 11, 2007 7:03 PM | Report abuse

All these comments have brought a tear to my eye. Why is everyone so down on me and wants me to be cut? I have done nothing but be productive and give 100% effort. Plus my musical skills are tight.

Posted by: #85 | September 11, 2007 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Am I crazy, or would you rather see Marcus Mason at the #3 spot instead of Rock Cartwright? I'd move Rock back to FB and cut Fabini wienie.

Posted by: TDawg | September 11, 2007 7:08 PM | Report abuse

didn't get to see too much of the skins in pre season out here in CO. Was Marcus Mason really that good? It was pre season after all and he was probably running against guys that are selling cars now.
I'm not saying he's not worth a roster spot. I'm just asking since I didn't get to see him play.

Posted by: coskins | September 11, 2007 7:11 PM | Report abuse

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Why To Watch
This is a key divisional game in an NFC East race that should be tight all season long. The Redskins got by Miami 16-13 in Week 1 and the Eagles lost at Green Bay by the same 16-13 score. Neither team is very explosive on offense but both play well enough on defense to stay in the game. Philadelphia needs a better passing day from Donovan McNabb while Washington needs more consistency from young QB Jason Campbell. Still, this game will likely come down to which team does a better job of running the football and controlling the clock.


When the Redskins have the ball
Rushing: The Redskins have become a run-first offense as expected and ran the ball 41 times against the Dolphins, giving the two-headed monster of RBs Clinton Portis and Ladell Betts a chance to and cover up the deficiencies of Campbell and the passing game. Washington is without veteran RT Jon Jansen (dislocated ankle), though, and is a right-handed run team that likes the stretch play and must adjust to a new tackle. Portis can give them cutback runs off the stretch play when the backside linemen can seal off the defense and Betts will likely do the heavy lifting between the tackles.
The two combined for 141 yards in Week 1 and the challenge this week will be to wall off a Philadelphia front seven that loves to shoot gaps and run slants and run blitzes. The Redskins can burn the Eagles if they catch them out of position, and with Philadelphia being somewhat unproven at linebacker look for Washington to attack the edges with the stretch play and look for cutbacks against overpursuit.

Passing: Campbell continues to struggle with consistency and decision-making, but the Redskins running game has a chance to bail him out until he gets better. His go-to receiver right now is No. 2 WR Antwaan Randle El, and the run-first philosophy of the offense could lead to a decent play-action package. This could become a very vanilla passing attack with a lot of throws to tight end Chris Cooley and quick slants and hitches on the perimeter, which would cut down on the need for Campbell to read the entire defense and make pre-snap adjustments.

The Philadelphia linebackers are not comfortable in coverage and we may see some screen plays and dump-offs to the backs and tight ends. Washington might also anticipate the blitz and test Eagles CBs Lito Sheppard and Sheldon Brown with pump fakes in single coverage in an attempt to expose their tendency to jump routes and be overly-aggressive. Defensive coordinator Jim Johnson will try to confuse Campbell with movement and alignments and his ability to read it may be the key to this game.

When the Eagles have the ball
Rushing: Philadelphia RB Brian Westbrook runs behind one of the biggest and most physical offensive lines in the NFL and the Eagles have made more of a commitment to offensive balance this season. Westbrook is much more effective running between the tackles than most people realize and the Redskins have a pedestrian front seven, although new MLB London Fletcher should upgrade the interior run defense and physical safeties Sean Taylor and LaRon Landry close on the ball quickly and can break down and tackle in the open field.

The Eagles will try to seal off the backside and get Westbrook on the second level with cutback plays, but also look for draw plays designed to get the LBs linebackers to drop into coverage and give the offensive line better blocking angles in space. Look for some run blitzes with the linebackers and safeties from Washington defensive coordinator Gregg Williams, designed to blow up the run game and prevent Westbrook from getting to the second level. The Eagles must identify Redskins defensive tackle Cornelius Griffin on every snap because he is the one player who can disrupt the interior running game.

Passing: The Redskins want to blitz their linebackers and safeties more in 2007 and to do that they must play more man-to-man coverages with their secondary. The good news is that they have three good CBs in Shawn Springs, Fred Smoot and Carlos Rogers, along with Taylor and Landry at safety, who have corner-type athleticism and cover skills. Look for Washington to come with more corner blitzes because of their confidence in their safeties in coverage on the perimeter.

The Eagles' pass offense struggled in Week 1 against an aggressive Green Bay defense. Washington can lock up their corners in single coverage but the matchup that might decide the game is how the Redskins cover Westbrook and Philadelphia TE L.J. Smith. If they are matched on safeties it could be a push, but if Westbrook in particular can get isolated on a linebacker in coverage he could make some big plays. Don't look for a lot of motion and shifts from Westbrook because if he runs his routes from the inside he has a better chance of being covered by Fletcher, and that is a matchup the Eagles want to get.

Special Teams

Philadelphia is usually very solid on special teams but doesn't look good right now. The Eagles have a good kicker in David Akers but their return game and cover teams are adequate at best and there just doesn't seem to be much potential for explosiveness. They were also uncharacteristically sloppy last week against Green Bay. Washington has a chance to make big plays with Randle El returning punts and the Redskins' cover teams are very respectable, so they should win the field position battle. If this game comes down to a key play on special teams the advantage should go to Washington.

Posted by: kost52 | September 11, 2007 7:15 PM | Report abuse

DARN IT! i missed a fight.

what was it about? re:marcus mason. an nfc east team will pick him up (my fear). but here's what i'm predicting (and i have been so right about everything up here that i feel the need to predict over and over again) that he will be better than betts in less than a year in this league.

also i am absolutely loving nate's twin. he/she is so good at being nate. nate, please don't let it bother you. it's not malicious. someone's just having fun.

Posted by: dealer | September 11, 2007 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Most important point from that lengthy analysis is about Griffin. He can change the line a lot if he plays well. Which is usually the case if he is healthy. Whether its sucking up double teams or pushing back the center of the O-line, watch what happens with Griffin and the center of the Eagles line. Winner of that battle probably wins the game.

Posted by: AL | September 11, 2007 7:29 PM | Report abuse

I actually was here first, but loseable type cut me out, therefore, can i be first? please?

Posted by: I know i was here first! | September 11, 2007 7:31 PM | Report abuse

ESPN reports encouraging signs in Kevin Everett's medical condition...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3014742

Posted by: P Diddy | September 11, 2007 7:42 PM | Report abuse

I must admit I was a little surprised that Mason was cut. But I guess if you look at it, he made the team because Blalock was injured, Blalock was on the team to replace Duckett, Duckett was on the team because of injury concerns with CP. The way CP played on the weekend, showed he has no ill effects, and a safety valve at RB isn't required anymore. So I guess it makes sense.

Posted by: kost52 | September 11, 2007 7:43 PM | Report abuse

CL - I thought that it would be more difficult than that. I know they do it in the NBA all the time, but that's not IR (out for the season).

P Diddy - That's great to hear isn't it!

Posted by: kost52 | September 11, 2007 7:46 PM | Report abuse

The NFL careers of 3rd, 4th, and 5th stringers at any position are precarious. Why this is surprising to anyone is perplexing.

The bigger question is how are the 'Skins going to get Cooley and Moss involved in the passing game on Monday night, because without them it will be very, very difficult to win on the road, in a very hostile environment, against a division opponent that is coming off a really silly loss. Monday night is going to be a pace-around-the-room, nail biting evening...

Posted by: P Diddy | September 11, 2007 7:49 PM | Report abuse

NFLN's top ten endzone celebrations.

#3 - Redskins Fun Bunch!

Posted by: bigfish | September 11, 2007 7:49 PM | Report abuse

Can you people stop filling our inbox with football related questions? pft.com has nothing to do with football.

If you have to reference Pro Football Talk, please just call it PFT, not pft.com.

Posted by: Pure Fruit Technologies | September 11, 2007 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Looking at Caldwell's career numbers...that's just a little over Art Monk's entire 1984 season. I'm not sure Caldwell is going to be a marked improvement at the position. Of course, after seeing The Receiver's pitiful performance on Sunday, I suppose anything is an improvement. Just don't get too excited is all I'm saying...

Posted by: P Diddy | September 11, 2007 7:52 PM | Report abuse

P Diddy - You're right, the lack of catches for our big 2 is a worry, but at the same time, the emergence of ARE gives the Eagels something to think about, does he now require more attention? If so, that will probably free up Moss/Cooley a bit more. I guess this is what a balanced attack is meant to do. If you take that away, then I'll use this. Not saying that we have a balanced attack just yet, but we're starting to show signs I think!

Posted by: kost52 | September 11, 2007 7:54 PM | Report abuse

What if we have a question about mangoes?

Posted by: P Diddy | September 11, 2007 7:54 PM | Report abuse

Good day today on this wonderful, silly blog. Keep BYGO fella's. Some unruly peeps today, but nothing we can't handle. I'm off to relax and watch some T.V, be back later as time allows. I love this blog.

HAIL!!

Posted by: Nate in the XDP | September 11, 2007 7:55 PM | Report abuse

That definitely was not Nate

Posted by: bigfish | September 11, 2007 7:56 PM | Report abuse

Ever notice that Nate in the PXD and periculum are never in the same room together?

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 11, 2007 7:57 PM | Report abuse

I think David Boston watched "The Princess Bride" one to many times and was trying the Iocane powder trick. He forgot the part about building up his immunity though.

LOL

Posted by: noone from tampa | September 11, 2007 8:00 PM | Report abuse

OK, this is getting absurd. This is my first post on this thread. I'm shocked no one posted a "1st" in my name.

Why the haters???

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 11, 2007 8:02 PM | Report abuse

Nate's blogdenty has been usurped. A sad day in RI history.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 11, 2007 8:06 PM | Report abuse

So I was right about the 5:41 posts?

Posted by: bigfish | September 11, 2007 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Wait, wait, wait. I just fell into a trap. 8:02 is the fake Nate. This makes want to take crazy pills.

Posted by: bigfish | September 11, 2007 8:08 PM | Report abuse

It's not wrong Jack. A "June 1st cut"......

Posted by: 4-12 | September 11, 2007 05:43 PM

Yes, yes, of course it's wrong. It all accelerates onto next years cap. F me! Moron! ** eating crow **
That's what I get for trying to blog about the cap while having eight managers come at me about putting cover sheets on my TPS reports.

Posted by: 4-12 | September 11, 2007 8:19 PM | Report abuse

4-12,

Didn't you get the memo?

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 11, 2007 8:23 PM | Report abuse

4-12,

Didn't you get the memo?

Posted by: bigfish | September 11, 2007 8:23 PM | Report abuse

SC and I on the exact same page. Nice!

Posted by: bigfish | September 11, 2007 8:23 PM | Report abuse

4-12, you ready to take on the might of Melbourne this week?

Posted by: kost52 | September 11, 2007 8:24 PM | Report abuse

Wow, now that is what you call a double move!! Eerie!

Posted by: kost52 | September 11, 2007 8:27 PM | Report abuse

Looks like we have a new term - "Naters" (Nate haters) for all the fake posters.

bigfish - you gonna share those crazy pills???

Posted by: Cindy's boy toy | September 11, 2007 8:28 PM | Report abuse

BTW, Jasno, great job today with all the posts, especially the heads up on "bumping into" Reche at RP

Posted by: Cindy's boy toy | September 11, 2007 8:29 PM | Report abuse

More on the pats cheating

The league also was reviewing a possible violation into the number of radio frequencies the Patriots were using during Sunday's game, sources said. The team did not have a satisfactory explanation when asked about possible irregularities in its communication setup during the game.

Posted by: Dante | September 11, 2007 8:31 PM | Report abuse

bigfish and SC- Very well done!

kost- Are you my opponent this week?

Posted by: 4-12 | September 11, 2007 8:32 PM | Report abuse

What a wonderful, hopeful, miraculous bit of news on this most tragic of days...

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-bills-everetthurt&prov=ap&type=lgns

Posted by: 4-12 | September 11, 2007 8:33 PM | Report abuse

Ice-cold saline, carried by all NFL team doctors, at all practices and games, starting . . . NOW

Posted by: stevie in gp | September 11, 2007 8:36 PM | Report abuse

*** Fantasy post ****

Just checked the schedule Kost. It says my team is AT your team. They actually break it down by home and away. Damn. If I've got to go all the way to Melbourne, you're buying the VB mate!

Posted by: 4-12 | September 11, 2007 8:37 PM | Report abuse

bigfish and I have been using radio signals to coordinate posts.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 11, 2007 8:38 PM | Report abuse

Anyone post the Post Game Heroes breakdowns of the Skins-'Fins game?

Offense:

http://www.postgameheroes.com/?p=587

Defense (with some love for Smoot):

http://www.postgameheroes.com/?p=591

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 11, 2007 8:45 PM | Report abuse

4-12,

Didn't you get the memo?

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 11, 2007 08:23 PM

4-12,

Didn't you get the memo?

Posted by: bigfish | September 11, 2007 08:23 PM

Through a little sleuthing I have deduced that bigfish is the Nater!

Posted by: Cindy's boy toy | September 11, 2007 8:45 PM | Report abuse

4-12, sounds good to me mate! I've been so busy racking up the unique beers on my list, that I haven't had a VB in months!

I think they do the home and away bit, so that in case there's a tied score, the home team gets the win.

Posted by: kost52 | September 11, 2007 8:50 PM | Report abuse

I, self admitingly, by no means have the literary genious to write anywhere near the likes of Nate. Nice try though.

Posted by: bigfish | September 11, 2007 8:55 PM | Report abuse

bigfish, are you hinting that it may be dealer? Who has changed back from his Littery Genius handle??

Posted by: kost52 | September 11, 2007 8:58 PM | Report abuse

Nate, we've traced the fake messages, and they are coming from inside the house! Have you checked the attic??

REE REE REE REE REE REE

Posted by: SMACK | September 11, 2007 9:01 PM | Report abuse

kost - I couldn't exactly remember who LG originally was but I had a 90% hunch it was dealer and didn't want to put it out there just in case I was wrong.

Posted by: bigfish | September 11, 2007 9:01 PM | Report abuse

Lisa has been misteriously missing though. Maybe she's the fake Nate:-)

Posted by: bigfish | September 11, 2007 9:03 PM | Report abuse

I, self admitingly, by no means have the literary genious to write anywhere near the likes of Nate. Nice try though.

Posted by: bigfish | September 11, 2007 08:55 PM

It looks like you are a Nater of SCSkinsFan at the least

Posted by: Cindy's boy toy | September 11, 2007 9:03 PM | Report abuse

Has this scandal yet been dubbed Fakenatehategate?

Posted by: SMACK | September 11, 2007 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Sorry for the spelling error before some A$$clown comes on here and grills me for it.

Posted by: bigfish | September 11, 2007 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Cbt - In the words of the great Michael Jackson to Paul McCartney - I'm a lover not a fighter.

Posted by: bigfish | September 11, 2007 9:07 PM | Report abuse

Washington Redskins Vs. Philadelphia Eagles

Key to Redskins To win:

1.Shut down the run force Donovan McNabb to pass.
2.Cover Brian Westbrook and avoid the Dinks and dunks to Westbrook.
3.Pressure McNabb!
4.Avoid big deep plays From Donovan Mcnabb
5.Have Sean Taylor lay big hits in the Secondary
6.Establish the running game early with Clinton Portis
7.Use the 2 headed monster of Clinton Portis and Ladell Betts
8.Take 4-5 shots deep down field to Santana Moss or Antwaan Randle El
9.Protect Jason Campbell from the Philadelphia Eagles defensive matermind in Jim Johnson.
10.Pass the ball to chris cooley.
11. Use screen passes to the vulnerable Eagles Linebackers.
12. Lito Sheppard the shut down corner will not be playing mess with the Eagles cornerbacks and embaress them
13.Lets keep the 400 yards of offense going in this game.

Keys to Eagles to win:
1.Shut the running game down in Ladell Betts and Clinton Portis.
2.Have Santana Moss in double coverage
3.Also have Chris Cooley in double Coverage
4.Counter Greg Williams aggressive defense
5.Involve Brian Westbrook early and often
6.Let Donovan Mcnabb make plays on his own

Redskins Win 21-17

Posted by: Alexander | September 11, 2007 9:07 PM | Report abuse

Nate has been deafeningly silent. Maybe he went to the attic to investingate...

Posted by: Cindy's boy toy | September 11, 2007 9:12 PM | Report abuse

I love the term a$$clown. It really is not used enough

Posted by: Cindy's boy toy | September 11, 2007 9:13 PM | Report abuse

Oh No!! Maybe he's uh uh uh uh....EATING DINNER!

Posted by: bigfish | September 11, 2007 9:14 PM | Report abuse

** Soccer Post **

SMACK - The Oranje looks like they will be in Euro 2008 after the win the other night. There will be a few big name teams to miss out! I'm pretty sure Italy is in 3rd in their group at the moment!

Posted by: kost52 | September 11, 2007 9:14 PM | Report abuse

The faker/hater has repeatedly posted as dcsween and me today.

I don't like it one bit, but there's not a whole heck of a lot I can do about it, is there?

For what it's worth, I sent a note to Cindy asking for WashPo to take a look, see if they can somehow lock this thing down. Feels really stupid to be running for help on this, but so it goes.

F posting under anyone else's nickname. So incredibly not cool.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 11, 2007 9:15 PM | Report abuse

fighting off an a$$clown in the attic makes for better blog material than eating dinner

Posted by: Cindy's boy toy | September 11, 2007 9:17 PM | Report abuse

I do think it's hilarious, the notion that my comments have some intrinsic nateness that's impossible to fake, even if the handle is a perfect match.

But still, it creeps me out to see someone else's words with "my" name up here.

I think several times I've invited haters to take it off the blog so we can discuss. I'm a big enough person to know that I have a knack for rubbing some people the wrong way. That's a standing invitaton. nateinthepdx at gmail dot com. Seriously.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 11, 2007 9:19 PM | Report abuse

Lol! I just got this image of Nate rolling around the floor is his attic wrestling with some a$$hat.

Give me back my identity!!

Never!!!

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 11, 2007 9:19 PM | Report abuse

a log in w/ unique user name would cure RI of the Naters

Posted by: Cindy's boy toy | September 11, 2007 9:21 PM | Report abuse

Nate,

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. This imposter doesn't hate you.... he wants to BE you.

May I suggest a home alarm system?

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 11, 2007 9:22 PM | Report abuse

I should note that, so far, nobody in the 'hater' category has ever taken me up on the offer to discuss off the blog via email. I'm not sure that this time will be different, but what the heck, it's worth a try.

Attic's clear, by the way...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 11, 2007 9:22 PM | Report abuse

I agree. A simple user name and password would cure all of this.

Posted by: bigfish | September 11, 2007 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Looks like Nate beat down that a$$hat! Welcome back, Nate.

Or are we being hoodwinked??? I am so confused

Posted by: Cindy's boy toy | September 11, 2007 9:23 PM | Report abuse

Okay, while we're talking names, I must confess that I find the moniker "Cindy's boy toy" disturbing on some level... it's pretty funny, though, especially since I imagine Cindy likes a little gentle ribbing from us on the blog, but it's right up on that line between cool and dubious.

Did you previously post up here under another name?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 11, 2007 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Reche is only 6' tall? That's not tall.. We need someone 6' 5" at least.

Posted by: nyskinsfan | September 11, 2007 9:25 PM | Report abuse

We bandied about some login/registration options for 'gating' the blog comments a while back, during some of the really bad blog attacks, but we generally agreed that we would fight through anything, that the hassle wasn't worth it.

And I should note that sometimes there are hilarious comments which are obviously jokes by regulars, attributed to Jerry Jones or Vinny Cerrato or whoever. I do like that.

Trying not to be an old fuddy-duddy, killjoy scold, but then I wasn't given the nickname Barney Fife for nothing...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 11, 2007 9:30 PM | Report abuse

nyskinsfan - They should sign me! Although I'm more of a tight end body, with 60 y.o. Head Coach speed.

Great hands though!!

Posted by: kost52 | September 11, 2007 9:30 PM | Report abuse

nope new to RI. The name is not meant to insult/hurt, only to be funny.

Cindy, let me know if it upsets you - I can change monikers if so desired.

Of course, with all the Naters I will have no idea if the post is you or not. Maybe you can address it as a new thread??? (Unlikely)

Posted by: Cindy's boy toy | September 11, 2007 9:30 PM | Report abuse

nyskinsfan, I don't remember if you're in the City or upstate, but I'm planning to join chris Larry, ArtMonktotheSticks and whoever else can make it next Monday, at that place Hill Country.

Going to be a good time for sure, but an excellent time if we somehow eke out a win at Philly.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 11, 2007 9:32 PM | Report abuse

I would like you to change your moniker.

Posted by: Cindy's toy boat | September 11, 2007 9:33 PM | Report abuse

***Soccer Post***

It looks good, Kost. Most of the heavy lifting is done. We still need to go to Romania. It would be nice to finish ahead of those blood-sucking parasites in the group.

***Women's Soccer Portion of Post***

Is there a more defeatest name in pro sports than US goalie Hope Solo. My hopes are so low that she's any good, but you are right Diddy, she is hot. Hey, I was up at 5am watching it, so I've got to confess that to someone. The England keeper was also horribly placed on that final Japan kick.

Posted by: SMACK | September 11, 2007 9:34 PM | Report abuse

kost52, pretty fun opening weekend in our fantasy league. I wanted to say thanks to you for setting it up -- I have eschewed fantasy f-ball for a few years because it just wasn't as much fun, but I'm having a pretty good time so far in this one! (Beating SMACK in the first round didn't hurt!)

How do your Aussie mates like it? Are they into it, or did you just cajole them along for the ride?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 11, 2007 9:35 PM | Report abuse

Nate, If that is your real name--thanks for the invite, but I probably won't make it into the city until the Sept. 23rd game against Big Ew. I do think I'm going to go the Hill Country spot...what's the address again?

I am in Westchester.

Posted by: nyskinsfan | September 11, 2007 9:39 PM | Report abuse

I don't think any of us Portlanders reported that there was a bleary-eyed Skins fan who joined us at the On Deck -- I think his name was Lloyd?? -- who had gotten up to watch a 7am Sunday broadcast of a rugby match with his South African friend.

He hung in there through the Skins game, but he was clearly hurting. And his friend was a good sport but was admittedly bewildered by the intricacies of American football.

Fun cross-cultural experience: this guy is taking his Springbok pal to DC for the Skins-Giants game in two weeks. Good times.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 11, 2007 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Nate, you lit me up, but believe it or not in my money league my opponent scored 159, with the same scoring system. Can I pick 'em or what? Not panicking and signing any bug-eyed freaks though. I still outscored most people in both leagues.

Posted by: SMACK | September 11, 2007 9:41 PM | Report abuse

here you go, NY:

http://www.hillcountryny.com/

30 W 26th St, btw Broadway and Avenue of the U.S. Americas

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 11, 2007 9:41 PM | Report abuse

SMACK, I can't help thinking I peaked in the opening weekend of this fantasy season. Plaxico freakin' Burress? Come on!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 11, 2007 9:42 PM | Report abuse

so is nate's twin gone? what happened?

Posted by: dealer | September 11, 2007 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Nate, Thanks. Looks like they keep their NFL team affiliation on the down low.

Posted by: nyskinsfan | September 11, 2007 9:44 PM | Report abuse

Hey, dealer, how's it going? "Really" "me" up here.

And I think we're "really" in the company of bigfish, SCSkinsFan, Cindy's boy toy, SMACK, kost52, P Diddy, nyskinsfan, and some others.

Attic still clear...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 11, 2007 9:45 PM | Report abuse

We may never know. Nate may really be Nate's evil twin, like some bad movie

Posted by: Cindy's boy toy | September 11, 2007 9:45 PM | Report abuse

nyskinsfan, it has occurred to me that ArtMonktotheSticks is a comedian by trade, and this could all be an elaborate prank on the order of "Punked."

I had my misgivings about NYC BBQ in the first place, but my visit to Blue Smoke with chris Larry, jm220, and Bucktown Skins Fan put that to rest. But this place seems soooo Texan that it seems really fishy that it could be a Skins-friendly venue.

We shall see...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 11, 2007 9:47 PM | Report abuse

Is there a more defeatest name in pro sports than US goalie Hope Solo. My hopes are so low that she's any good, but you are right Diddy, she is hot. Hey, I was up at 5am watching it, so I've got to confess that to someone. The England keeper was also horribly placed on that final Japan kick.

Posted by: SMACK | September 11, 2007 09:34 PM

I watched myself. You're right. She is hot but she is good. That English keeper is hot also. I love me some hot female soccer players.

Posted by: bigfish | September 11, 2007 9:48 PM | Report abuse

You caught me, Nate

Posted by: Ashton Kutcher | September 11, 2007 9:50 PM | Report abuse

### Ever notice that Nate in the PXD and periculum are never in
#### the same room together?

Have you been paying attention? Why not too long ago I explained about the Pizza Hut in Bangkok. sheesh ...

Posted by: periculum | September 11, 2007 9:50 PM | Report abuse

I should say, Cindy's boy toy, a belated welcome to the blog is in order.

As I said, it took me a little while to get used to your moniker. But you're obviously a good dude, and you "get" the blog, which of course is the main thing up here.

And Cindy deserves a little razzing from the peanut gallery, if she's going to be cracking the whip about yet another freakin' Milestone to reach...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 11, 2007 9:50 PM | Report abuse

Texan (implant), fishy. Was that a stab at me?

Posted by: bigfish | September 11, 2007 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Any new news today on the SS not starting fiasco?
Anyone else think that BL is heading for the inactive list this week as punishment?

Also if Weird Al's offense is so complex how can we expect Reche to come in and contribute anytime soon?

Posted by: Dante | September 11, 2007 9:51 PM | Report abuse

I hear ya. I'm listening. But, to be honest--I'm not sure if you're really Nate.

To make matters even more confusing, I've never met you, so I don't even know the real Nate anyway.

This is confusion and madness on the order of the boat scene in the orginal Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.

Posted by: nyskinsfan | September 11, 2007 9:51 PM | Report abuse

88,888 posts on the blog. 88,888 posts.
You post another and you have 88,889 posts on the blog.
88,889 posts on the blog. 88,889 posts.
You post another and you have 88,890 posts on the blog.
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Posted by: peiculum "the priest" | September 11, 2007 9:52 PM | Report abuse

periculum may be guilty of veering off to Crazyville (where I spend an unhealthy amount of time myself) periodically, but I wouldn't list him as a prime suspect for this recent raft of blodentity theft.

Not saying periculum won't be brought in for questioning down at the Mayberry Sheriff's Dept when we do our roundup, but Sheriff Taylor and I agree that it was probably either Otis the town drunk or Floyd the barber.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 11, 2007 9:54 PM | Report abuse

bigfish, did you like that? I amuse myself...

Running up to take one last check of the attic...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 11, 2007 9:55 PM | Report abuse

One of them (Shoreditch-Eagles Fan) played last season and did pretty well. I think he messed up in the first week and only had 2 WRs active. Last year only 2 WRs could be active, and I don't think he noticed the change. Probably wouldn't have mattered too much anyway, his 3rd WR was Terry Glenn who missed anyway.

The other (More Than Just Punters - Bills Fan), it's his first year, but I don't think he did too bad considering the game LJ had. Waiting to hear what he thinks (he's probably busy crying about Elam and the cheating Patriots). Most of the Fantasy games over here are like the EPL one we're playing, more interactive, but less realistic.

Posted by: kost52 | September 11, 2007 9:56 PM | Report abuse

How do we know that Nate's not pulling one over on all of us posting as himself and then fake posting as himself with XPD and DPX's and then posting as himself claiming that someone was impostering him.
He even admitted that it had to be a regular having some fun.

Personally I think Nate is sitting back sipping a beer having a good chuckle courtesy of all you RI peeps.

Posted by: Dante | September 11, 2007 9:56 PM | Report abuse

nate, stressed OUT! i think i'm going to be MIA from up here until monday night or longer...AGAIN!

Posted by: dealer | September 11, 2007 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Cindy's boy toy | September 11, 2007 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Hello Farstriker,

but I wasn't commenting on which three plays I thought were best in Skins History. I was commenting on how fans were overwhelmingly voting for the Mosely FG when hiring George Allen was certinly bigger and winning the NFL championship in 37 was the biggest of the 3

Slingin' Sammy Baugh


Your mention of 4th and 1
Oh yes, it will no doubt win when it is presented as one of the top three, but for this week those were the three presented.
Miami 13 Wash 13 4th 1 70 Gut!!
Let the Riggo begin...

Posted by: Redskin Ray | September 11, 2007 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Darrell hurdling Bozo is in my top three.

Posted by: Cindy's boy toy | September 11, 2007 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Cbt, she is nice! She thinks Ronaldinho's smile is contagious. So do I...much like the bite of a komodo dragon. Though I guess that's actually more infectious.

Posted by: SMACK | September 11, 2007 10:12 PM | Report abuse

I'm in favor of the log-in and registration. Maybe even a small fee which would discourage fake posters (probably those from $ynder's Extreme Skins) and who could be blocked. The season has started but the posts are definitely not like last year's, where comments were about the team and were not juvenile, personal attacks. You can't convince me that the folks in Cashburn aren't behind these Jasno-hating comments b/c of his reporting (and no, he is not always right).

Posted by: Not Anonymous | September 11, 2007 10:16 PM | Report abuse

Dante...

Nate posing as imposter Nate?!?

The possibilities....my god man!...my head is about to explod...

*splat*

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 11, 2007 10:17 PM | Report abuse

SMACK - I think the point she's trying to make, is that looking at a Brazilian brings a smile to her face.

Posted by: kost52 | September 11, 2007 10:17 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: SMACK | September 11, 2007 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Interesting speculation by Clayton regarding the Pat's cheating scandal:

"This incident will probably lead to having a defensive player on the field with a radio helmet to receive defensive signals from the sideline. Using hand signals to relay defensive calls is an outdated concept. The offense can use modern technology. Why can't defenders?"

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 11, 2007 10:22 PM | Report abuse

I love this.

In the ESPN Mag, there was an interview with Maurice Jones-Drew.

Dan Patrick asked him if he copped any hazing as a rookie, and MJD sid that they shaved his eyebrows (Among other things). Then Dan Patrick asked him how he coped with the eyebrows gone

MJD - "I looked surprised all the time!"

LMGO

Posted by: kost52 | September 11, 2007 10:27 PM | Report abuse

Ahhh the joy of recalling what I think is the greatest single moment in Redskin History:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8cexwNdeyQ&mode=related&search=

As you watch the replay notice how the entire left side does it's job on this play enabling Riggo to be at full speed to run through the tackle of the CB.

Jacob goes low pinching down,
LG Grimm gets through to the MLB
As the MLB gets away then FB Otis Wonsley dives into him knocking him off of his feet
TE Didier gets the complete kickout on his man, and Riggo is off to the races!!

It also reveals how hard it is to get a big run. it only happens when several blocks are made on one play and here it still took a mismatch by Riggo to break the arm tackle of the CB.

Great video, huh?

Posted by: Redskin Ray | September 11, 2007 10:27 PM | Report abuse

SCSkinsFan - I think it was on the table at the owners' meeting at the start of the season, but it didn't get enough votes to go through.

Posted by: kost52 | September 11, 2007 10:32 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like it will be implemented now, kost.

Hey, any follow-up on that poor reporter who got mugged covering a rugby game? Were the assailants charged? Terrible situation.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 11, 2007 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Redskins are on NFL Replay right now.

God, that thumbnail of P. Kendall in the O-line graphic looks so Corky.

God bless Clinton Portis.

I love this Replay format with the post-game comments woven into the game!

Posted by: Special K | September 11, 2007 10:36 PM | Report abuse

Longhorns fan nearly castrated in bloody bar scuffle

Posted: Tuesday September 11, 2007 6:57PM;

OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) -- To some Oklahoma football fans, there are things that just aren't done in the heart of Sooner Nation, and one of them is to walk into a bar wearing a Texas Longhorns T-shirt.

That's exactly what touched off a bloody skirmish that left a Texas-shirt-wearing fan nearly castrated and an Oklahoma fan facing aggravated assault charges that could put him in prison for up to five years.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 11, 2007 10:39 PM | Report abuse

Gotta run to dinner...but had to post this. I had no idea about it, but DirecTV just sent customers mail "apologizing" for it not functioning properly last weekend.

http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/global/contentPage.jsp?assetId=P4330048

If you're a DirecTV NFL Sunday Ticket SuperFan subscriber, you can watch games Live on your PC. I'm going to try it out this weekend and let you know how it checks out. Remember, you have to already be a DirecTV Sunday Ticket subscriber. It's not going to work for everyone, but for those who are traveling and don't want to Slingbox it, this could be your solution.

Also, for those overseas, don't forget Yahoo NFL Game Pass:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nflgamepass

That one, of course, is only for non-US users.

For the record, if you travel a lot and still want to keep up on TV or sports or whatever, I highly, highly, highly recommend Slingbox.

Good night, hamsters!

Posted by: P Diddy | September 11, 2007 10:41 PM | Report abuse

This is such a 6:19 comment, Dorf, but Stravinsky's Rites of Spring knock me out. That caused peasant riots back in the day you know...

Posted by: Special K | September 11, 2007 10:42 PM | Report abuse

Still watching the skins/fins replay on nfln. Thing I love most about it is it cuts out all the retarded banter by whatever 3rd string banterer they put on the skins game week to week. God, I miss the announcers of the NFC East power days, back when our division was good for a Super Bowl once every four years. Are we getting back to that finally with Campbell and Romo?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 11, 2007 10:48 PM | Report abuse

Anonybove was me

Posted by: Special K | September 11, 2007 10:48 PM | Report abuse

SCSkinsFan - Yeah, they got them http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,22401921-29277,00.html

What's going on with fans these days, we had an incident a few weeks ago, where some tool in the crowd of an Aussie Rules game, was shining one of those red laser lights in the face of players during the game.

Posted by: kost52 | September 11, 2007 10:55 PM | Report abuse

someone has already posted a video summary of Sunday's Wk 1 game vs. the Dolphins on youtube.

Here is the link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EExrtpo6rw&NR=1

Enjoy

Posted by: Redskin Ray | September 11, 2007 10:57 PM | Report abuse

nfln replay cont'd: springs just did his slide in to recover the fumble. he didn't look like he'd lost his burst there...

Posted by: Special K | September 11, 2007 10:59 PM | Report abuse

Change your name I too would like you to

Posted by: Cindy's goy toy | September 11, 2007 11:04 PM | Report abuse

SPecial K, sounds like you're watching NFL Network... I have been meaning to ask Lisa this, but how would you say they cover the Skins relative to other teams?

There is a recurring theme up here (without a teevee I can't observe) about the Skins getting short shrift on ESPN... is NFLN "Fair and balanced"?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 11, 2007 11:05 PM | Report abuse

One thing watching this NFLN replay makes me realize is that Phillip Daniels is definitely the weakest link in our D-line.

Posted by: bigfish | September 11, 2007 11:10 PM | Report abuse

Nate, I think nfln ignores our chances at least equally to any other media outlet. "I don't want anyone jumping on our bandwagon!"

Posted by: Special K | September 11, 2007 11:14 PM | Report abuse

It's always interesting to watch what was televised after you've been at the game. It's great being at the game because you can see the entire field, so even if you don't know a great amount about football, you can still see the play develop. But, it's amazing how much you don't see when you're there, too.

Posted by: JustMe | September 11, 2007 11:16 PM | Report abuse

nate/sf:

re: the recevr

that play in the end zone made me sick on so many different levels, so I win't rehash the stuff you guys covered.

the only redeeming thing about the recvr in my mind was his performance against dallas last year at fedex. As much weight as coming up big against the cowpokes holds, i'm really coming to the end of my rope w/ this dude . . .

i think i'd let him go even if he shows up big . . .No I say this and reserve the right to change my mind if he actually does come up big . . .

hail!

Posted by: skinsfan@8KaboveMSL | September 11, 2007 11:19 PM | Report abuse

Nate, to clarify, when they (meaning nfln) do show replays of our games, they do as good a job as they do with other games with interleaving comments from the players/coaches, and I do love that, but realistically, like the other sports nets, they just don't respect us as a contender. We're more of a muddle-of-the-road team as far as the nets are concerned.

I guess we're gonna have to go out of the Detroit game at least 3-1 before we get noticed, but that's okay by me--I think we've got a classic SB team in the making here! And I don't need no one getting on the bandwagon!

Posted by: Special K | September 11, 2007 11:19 PM | Report abuse

Even though they lost a great deal of credibility around here with their Reaper is injured falsealarmingus, I'm really loving the postgameheroes breakdown of the game. With the amount of time they put into it, they put me to shame. I thought I was a nerd, I'm just not worthy of that title with those boys around!

Posted by: kost52 | September 11, 2007 11:26 PM | Report abuse

Interesting speculation by Clayton regarding the Pat's cheating scandal:

"This incident will probably lead to having a defensive player on the field with a radio helmet to receive defensive signals from the sideline. Using hand signals to relay defensive calls is an outdated concept. The offense can use modern technology. Why can't defenders?"

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 11, 2007 10:22 PM

Hand signals will never be outdated for the defense unless they put a radio in everyones helmet bc the defense doesn't ever huddle as much as the offense bc they have to generally line up first.


The biggest argument against the defensive headset is that you need to be able to have all the defenders react to the signals asap when playing defense against a hurry up offense when there is no time to huddle. There will be no time to huddle for the defense in this situation and no one will know what defense to run / blitz etc...

Posted by: Dante | September 11, 2007 11:26 PM | Report abuse

Can we give Sellers the ball more often? I mean, damn. On the last play, it took Jason Taylor, Zach Thomas and 2 other Fins to pull him down. LOL

Posted by: JustMe | September 11, 2007 11:27 PM | Report abuse

Ha, the new Coors light "It turned blue" commercial is the best ever. Chick in the bathroom with a pregnancy test and BF with head in the fridge grabbing his Coors Light with the new activated Coors mountains that turn blue when they hit the "ideal beer temperature." They go to each other and say it's the day they've been waiting for!

I'm usually no lower than Yuengling grade but I'm gonna grab me some color-activated Coors now! Too cool.

Posted by: Special K | September 11, 2007 11:27 PM | Report abuse

While we are on the radio subject... what's the argument against putting a radio in everyone's helmet?

Posted by: Dante | September 11, 2007 11:28 PM | Report abuse

Two stories tonight and five+ blog posts during the day. Hat's off to Jasno

Posted by: Dante | September 11, 2007 11:35 PM | Report abuse

On the Lloyd endzone fiasco, er, shabingus, I suppose, commentator says "Campbell sees Moss break across the middle of the field, so he realizes he's got one-on-one with Brandon Lloyd, but the reality was Lloyd just didn't fight for the ball as much as Travis Daniels." It was obvious to anyone watching, but geez, even the retard announcer picked up on it.

I don't care how "eloquent" Lloyd's training camp journal was. He's got two more weeks. No production by the bye means bye bye Brandon if I'm Gibbsy.

Posted by: Special K | September 11, 2007 11:38 PM | Report abuse

True or false, releasing Fabini, moving Rock to 2nd FB and resigning Marcus Mason would be a good thing.

Posted by: TDawg | September 11, 2007 11:48 PM | Report abuse

Hey Special K... good looking out, thought my cultured comment went unnoticed. I'm not much of an opera guy but I went out and got me "Pavarotti in Central Park" in honor of his life. That man could sing like nobody's business.

Ray - great Riggo video. That was awesome.

Posted by: Dorf | September 11, 2007 11:49 PM | Report abuse

Dorf, Luciano had the buonissimo (if that's a word) voce. Never a bad note, unlike so many of my favorite and not-so-favorite singers. I'm sure diddy would say timberlake is right up there, too. what a mancrush.

Posted by: Special K | September 11, 2007 11:59 PM | Report abuse

Actually Redskins related:

This is from Yahoo!

"It was a tough opener for the entire Cardinals' passing game and for Fitzgerald in particular as he had a very difficult time getting open against 49ers corners Nate Clements and Walt Harris."

All I can think of is Carlos Rogers' 20 yard cushion and Chris Chambers inflated stats. 6 catches - 92 yards.

Posted by: Dorf | September 12, 2007 12:03 AM | Report abuse

I have man-crushes on Brad Pitt and Denzel Washington... I can't judge Diddy on his Timberlake mancrush.

Listening to Stravinsky on youtube. Scary stuff.

Posted by: Dorf | September 12, 2007 12:05 AM | Report abuse

My man crush is Chris Cornell. And right now I'm caught in such a conundrum. He's touring with his band soon, but he's the support artist..........to Linkin Park. I'm trying to find someone who wants to see them so that we get 1 ticket, I see Cornell, get a passout, and they see Linkin Park. Can't find any takers though!!

Posted by: kost52 | September 12, 2007 12:20 AM | Report abuse

no mancrushes here, though i would love to be clooney. or steve vai!

stravinsky is a monster. so humbling to think a poor russian could cause an absolute revolution 100 yrs ago with nothing but his ear.

Posted by: Special K | September 12, 2007 12:21 AM | Report abuse

kost, chris's song Seasons on the singles soundtrack could be the best he ever did. love that to death.

i was on spring break in daytona lo these many years ago with hair down to my crackity-crack and i remember my buddies telling these chicks on a balcony to come down to the beach, Chris Cornell (me) was partying in daytona. Unfortunately, my version of Outshined wasn't so hot and the ruse fell flat. a shame

Posted by: Special K | September 12, 2007 12:25 AM | Report abuse

they had ample bosoms

Posted by: Special K | September 12, 2007 12:30 AM | Report abuse

Should have told them your name was Ron Mexico.

Posted by: Michael Vick | September 12, 2007 12:31 AM | Report abuse

but i don't have slurpees

Posted by: Special K | September 12, 2007 12:32 AM | Report abuse

Mancrushes....you may have'em but don't blog on em!!!

Mine vince vaughn...did I just say that...

Posted by: chris larry | September 12, 2007 12:34 AM | Report abuse

Special K - Absolutely agree with you on Seasons. I've already made it clear to my family that I want it played at my funeral. I love it.

Posted by: kost52 | September 12, 2007 12:34 AM | Report abuse

kost, glad good taste translates to aussie rules as well. can't think of anything more fitting for a wake.

cl, i had you figured for more of an owen wilson type...

Posted by: Special K | September 12, 2007 12:38 AM | Report abuse

on second thought, you are so more vaughn/belushi. never mind

Posted by: Special K | September 12, 2007 12:41 AM | Report abuse

Special K,

Re: Coors "ideal beer temperature" commercial

Have you been living under a rock or what? That ad's at least half a year old...

Posted by: MV Dame | September 12, 2007 12:42 AM | Report abuse

I do like Owen,,,seems fun to party with...but VV is the man...

"Did you motorboat? You did! You old sailor you"

Posted by: chris larry | September 12, 2007 12:42 AM | Report abuse

good night, see you all at 2-0!

Posted by: Special K | September 12, 2007 12:42 AM | Report abuse

kost, you couldn't pay me to see Linkin Park. Though I don't mind you bidding your guts out to try to change my mind...

Posted by: MV Dame | September 12, 2007 12:43 AM | Report abuse

Dame, is that Coors ad seriously that old? sorry i'm so out of touch. used to be the pop culture king, now just passed by i guess. ad is still drop-dead funny on first view, even if half a year late! i love them saying together "it's blue!"

Posted by: Special K | September 12, 2007 12:46 AM | Report abuse

i'm still cracking up over that. good night for real this time.

Posted by: Special K | September 12, 2007 12:49 AM | Report abuse

Ah, that makes sense, Redskin Ray. And, yeah, the George Allen hiring was huge--epochal, pivotal.

(RR and I manage blog-ping-pong conversation flawlessly, with posts separated by hours and even whole threads--no repetition, no drops, just smooth eBay-like transactions).

Posted by: farstriker | September 12, 2007 12:55 AM | Report abuse

>>> "We're more of a muddle-of-the-road team as far as the nets are concerned."

Uh, so what in the last 15 years makes us anything other than a middle of the road team? At best the 'Skins franchise is middle of the road. At best. I'm a huge, huge fan, but let's take off the rose-colored glasses for a second and look at this objectively. Two playoff appearances in 15 years, God knows how many QBs, five head coaches...

The 'Skins don't deserve any national television exposure until they actually, you know, do something.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 12, 2007 2:18 AM | Report abuse

I define "mancrush" as someone I would actually trade places with.

JT, Denzel, Tom Brady, and Tiger Woods. That just about covers it.

As for my "safe list" (because I must balance it out with some hetero love), it begins and ends with Keira Knightley.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 12, 2007 2:25 AM | Report abuse

Chris Cornell: I honestly wouldn't know this guy from the lamppost (I mean, I know who he is, but I wouldn't recognize him).

But my friends always, always, always point him out here in Seattle. Always. And I'm always like, "Who? Which guy? No? Really???"

Kind of like when they pointed out Sammy Hagar in Cabo and introduced me to him. "Who?"

Yeah, I have absolutely no musical taste. Hence, JT.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 12, 2007 2:28 AM | Report abuse

Diddy, I think it's seventeen. Seventeen QBs since Gibbs I. Some of them were real stinkers, as you may have heard.

WashPo did a piece on it when Soup took the helm, at least in part because of how neat it was that he was wearing #17 and he was the seventeenth.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 12, 2007 2:59 AM | Report abuse

Still kind of stunned that I scored two comments time stamped with the same minute, at the top of this thread.

Mildly intriguing as to why the blog allowed that when it's usually a case of Loseable Type.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 12, 2007 3:01 AM | Report abuse

Aaargh. I see the impersoNator posted as me over on the other blog, that "Throwing It Out There" thing. And fake posted as Cindy. Boo!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 12, 2007 3:22 AM | Report abuse

Lots of dimwits on the blog of late. It's okay. It's the best their pathetic, sad little lives can get. We might as well let them have their fun. For them, it's nothing but paper hats and burger flipping for the foreseeable future.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 12, 2007 3:27 AM | Report abuse

Aye. Just trying to keep my bloggy spirits up in the face of the recently accelerated Ultimatum. We'll get there with ease, I predict, given the steady diet of News.

But I had really, honestly wanted to dial it back a bit, and now I sort of feel obliged to kick in my buck-oh-five... obliged in a good way. The blog has given and continues to give so much pleasure, so many yuks...

Anyhow. Good times.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 12, 2007 3:31 AM | Report abuse

I particularly loved the guy who went all nutso over the mention of Oreo Pizza.

If only our buddy Fudge 'Ums was around to pay him a visit. Nothing like a cube of poop at your doorstep to give you a distinct idea of how well you rate in the world.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 12, 2007 3:33 AM | Report abuse

It's a fun little place to hang out. Life can be so stressful that it's cool to just be in a spot with no expectations, even for a few minutes a day.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 12, 2007 3:36 AM | Report abuse

JC is not in sync with moss or cooley and it takes time ? Anybody who thinks caldwell can learn plays,run routes,and be where he should be is a fuc*ing IDIOT!! JC will throw MORE INTs because of CALDWELL who didnt run right route!!!!!!!

Posted by: caldwell signing STUPID!!! | September 12, 2007 3:43 AM | Report abuse

To say nothing of the fact that Caldwell has yet to distinguish himself anywhere in the NFL...

Posted by: P Diddy | September 12, 2007 3:45 AM | Report abuse

I think a bigger question than how well and how soon Caldwell will mesh with the offense is how badly Sam's going to mangle his first name.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 12, 2007 3:47 AM | Report abuse

Turning it over to you guys and The Crickets, whenever they arrive.

Nighty-night, blog.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 12, 2007 3:49 AM | Report abuse

Smack and bigfish commented on it...women soccer players: yes.

Hope Solo. Coolest name in sports, IMHO. Daughter of Han and Leia. The Force is strong with this one. Local (Seattle) chick, too. Her MySpace is cute. She's hot and she's funny. Yeah, I'm in love.

Exception to the Keira Knightly rule forthcoming...

Posted by: P Diddy | September 12, 2007 3:49 AM | Report abuse

Agreed, good night all. The Crickets...all yours buddy.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 12, 2007 3:50 AM | Report abuse

BOOFER
says peace out p diddy & nate!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2007 4:06 AM | Report abuse

JC is not in sync with moss or cooley and it takes time ? Anybody who thinks caldwell can learn plays,run routes,and be where he should be is a fuc*ing IDIOT!! JC will throw MORE INTs because of CALDWELL who didnt run right route!!!!!!!

Posted by: caldwell signing STUPID!!! | September 12, 2007 03:43 AM

To say nothing of the fact that Caldwell has yet to distinguish himself anywhere in the NFL...

Posted by: P Diddy | September 12, 2007 03:45 AM

I don't understand how anyone can complain about Caldwell when the guy he's replacing is Brandon Lloyd.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 12, 2007 5:06 AM | Report abuse

talent evaluater
WR & QB are towo of the most HOPELESS positions to fill during the season! That is why even as rookies with 1,2,3 yrs experience on same team(JC for example) these positions 99% of the time are the hardest to fill! PUT THE KOOLAIDE DOWN!!

Posted by: GO back to sleep TE | September 12, 2007 5:58 AM | Report abuse

I don't understand your point. Are you saying that Brandon Lloyd is better than Reche Caldwell? That we need another QB? Or that the U.S. Americans don't have enough maps?

If I could go back to sleep, why would I be blogging on RI? And, why are you?

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 12, 2007 6:10 AM | Report abuse

I passed out overnight in my attic. Did I miss anything?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 12, 2007 6:11 AM | Report abuse

talent evaluater
if you dont understand the chemistry between QB & WR (which loyd & JC have)then you dont belong in a football discussion! Is loyd that bad or is this coaching staff turning theyre backs on him like other players (champ,lavar,springs) !!

Posted by: GO BACK TO SLEEP TE | September 12, 2007 6:17 AM | Report abuse

I forgot COLES on that list!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2007 6:18 AM | Report abuse

Did anyone hear the Joe Gibbs Radio show yeasterday? I caught it while going home around 7:30 pm last night.

They were talking about Shawn Springs and refered to JLaC's article that qouted Springs saying he didn't know why he didn't start and that he was perfectly healthy.

Well, Gibbs had the other side of the story. 1st all you conspiracy theorists, Gibbs pointed to Springs being oft injured the past 2 years and especielly last year. Then he refered to Springs missing 2 preseason games in August due to injury.

So Gibbs said that Springs went to the training room last week to get his hamstring taped up. So the training staff was concerned and they informed Jerry Gray about the situation and they might need to be careful and watch the situation. Gray made the decision and Gibbs agreed to hold him back for the game because (in my words translated from Coach Speak) they need him for the season and they don't need him injured this season because he is an integral part of the team and their plans.

Gibbs said that Springs didn't know that the trainers told them. Springs said in JLaC's article that no one told him anything and he dosen't understand what happened and after being told that, Gibbs said he is def going to talk to Springs to make sure they are on the same page and there isn't any confusion.

I'm sorry conspiracy theorist, buit I can't join you on this one. When they were talking about LaVar, it wasn't in the same sense. And Gibbs spilled all the beans concerning the situation. Springs has been oft-injured of recent......

Posted by: 4th via Home Floor | September 12, 2007 7:20 AM | Report abuse

Nice post 4th. Hopefully that will silence our conspiracy theorists for a while.

At least until they uncover that Joe Gibbs is a reptillian shape-shifter working hand in hand with the illuminati.

Benching Shawn springs is just one microscopic cog in a catastrophic plan designed and directed by his red right hand.

Posted by: etrod | September 12, 2007 7:32 AM | Report abuse

4th my man I hope your right and the sinking quesey gas inducing feeling in my gut is wrong.

I love being wrong, its both a habit and a hobby!

Posted by: chris larry | September 12, 2007 8:02 AM | Report abuse

Uh, so what in the last 15 years makes us anything other than a middle of the road team? At best the 'Skins franchise is middle of the road. At best. I'm a huge, huge fan, but let's take off the rose-colored glasses for a second and look at this objectively. Two playoff appearances in 15 years, God knows how many QBs, five head coaches...


Posted by: P Diddy | September 12, 2007 02:18 AM

diddy, all points well made and taken. but denial ain't just that river...it's my stream of consciousness this year. If we take advantage of question marks with the division opponents next couple of weeks I think we may be sitting pretty come new year's eve, though I know if somehow, somehow our plucky team makes it to the SB we'd probably get steamrollered by whatever AFC team we faced.

But if we get to the playoffs with Portis & Betts healthy and relatively fresh from sharing the load, I think we could make a run to the NFC championship. They looked pretty good to me the other day and Wade is probably an upgrade to an already *potent* rushing o-line.

Now if we can just cram 70 pages of playbook a day into google-eyes butterfingers caldwell's brain, maybe he can start next week against the giants and we can get this passing game warmed up.

Posted by: Special K | September 12, 2007 8:05 AM | Report abuse

Yo 4th via 4th floor, I hope you are right about all of this. Your version seems to now make a little better sense. Although I still find it hard to believe they could not had let Springs know this right before the game or at least a day before. What was the big secret?????? This still does not "smell" right.

Something is still wrong with that picture. I still tend to think when you go against Danny Boy dealing with contracts and you (Coles, LaVar, Champ and now Springs) do not conform to what he wants, you are going to feel some heat indirectly and directly.

The next person who is going to catch this type of treatment is going to be Portis next season. He is the Redskins "face guy" now, but once he does not restructure his contract like the Danny Boy wants him to do, he will start seeing a lot of "pine" time like LaVar and now Springs had to do. I hope I am wrong though.

Posted by: Mike Thomas "22" | September 12, 2007 8:28 AM | Report abuse

ChrIs laRry - I know he wasn't lying. This is how:

They took phone calls and someone asked him about Brandon Lloyd and what's going on with him and if we are going to bring someone in? The caller also asked if Lloyd was talked to about giving up on the INT.

Gibbs said Brandon was in a bunch of packages in the game and had some opportunities such as the the pass in the end zone and so forth. He also said that he dosen't call out people in this that situation because of other mitigating factors. Sounds familiar? A Bunch of Packages? Dosen't want to talk about it but he talked about Springs? So, he basically gave a non answer. Llod is in the Doghouse.....

Posted by: 4th | September 12, 2007 8:30 AM | Report abuse

Mike - Portis and Gibbs have a relationship simialr but not to the point of Brunell. Gibbs will let Portis know. Offense players are treated much much differently than defensive players. Offense are Gibbs guys and he leaves Williams/Gray/Blatche make any and all defensive personel decision.

Gibbs is Management so they don't really owe the players anything, personal feelings aside. The players get paid to play when they are told. Point blank.

Feelings are personal. I have experinced this in my jobs and I had to realize I have to put the personal feelings to the side because all of this is just business, not personal....

Posted by: 4th via Home Floor | September 12, 2007 8:35 AM | Report abuse

Oh Fudge-Ums! I was just thinking about him the other day with all the Caldwell talks. Fudge-Ums filled in the gaps last year at CB and WR. He was a must re-sign and the stinking FO didn't get it right.

BRING BACK FUDGE-UMS!

Posted by: Dorf | September 12, 2007 8:37 AM | Report abuse

Yes, change your name. It is insulting to me and Cindy (who I actually do know IRL)

Posted by: Cindy's girl toy | September 12, 2007 8:47 AM | Report abuse

I can't leave the blog for six stinkin' hours without another fake post using my "name"? Aaargh.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 12, 2007 9:04 AM | Report abuse

4th,

I am not sure I agree with you that Gibbs is not involved at some level in the defensive personnel decision making.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 12, 2007 9:06 AM | Report abuse

4th, thanks for posting that about the Gibbs radio show. I certainly hope this ends the "controversy" we had been brewing up here.

One thing I was wondering... due to the growing use of three-receiver sets even on routine first and second downs (in addition to 'obvious passing downs'), and the need to match those sets with nickel D, maybe the coaches sort of consider the third corner to be the twelfth defensive starter. Does that make sense?

If so, the coaches might in effect think it's a non-issue whether you're "starting" (in the game on the first defensive snap) or only coming in with the nickel package, because that package is on the field so much. And therefore that they might not knock themselves out telling the third corner/twelfth starter of his status prior to the game. And that maybe that was part of this.

Ah, whatever, broke my own ban on speculating about this little non-drama.

"These aren't the front office and coaching staff blunders you're looking for... Move along. Move along."

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 12, 2007 9:07 AM | Report abuse

Dude, CUT IT OUT. 9:06 AM comment was not me. This is freakin' absurd. So incredibly not cool.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 12, 2007 9:08 AM | Report abuse

Nice Article on Wade today. Going into his strengths and weakness' and why he failed at guard.

I suspect we will be ok there.

Any chance they wipe one of Billy from Bostons Super Bowl wins away from him so he only has 2? I'm just askin....

Posted by: Skinz | September 12, 2007 9:09 AM | Report abuse

was 9:07 you? how about 9:04 and 9:08?

Posted by: Waiting for Nate | September 12, 2007 9:10 AM | Report abuse

Yes, those were mine.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 12, 2007 9:11 AM | Report abuse

Real Nate my man, your feeding the beast...don't sweat it and he will get bored..

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 12, 2007 9:16 AM | Report abuse

9:11 AM was not me, either.

Cut it out, dude, please.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 12, 2007 9:17 AM | Report abuse

chris Larry, there's just something deeply wrong with what this guy is doing. I don't know if he's a regular who hates me or a lurker with a vengeance or what. Maybe it's my boss. But using my name for these posts is just flat wrong. It violates the code of blog omerta.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 12, 2007 9:18 AM | Report abuse

ITA Nate, he'll go away eventually. It's someone who needs a life more than the rest of us. Talk about a loser.

Posted by: Skinz | September 12, 2007 9:21 AM | Report abuse

If I ITA then he gets to post whatever he wants using my good name. I just can't cotton to that. I've spent like ten months establishing this name -- it's all I have! So I'm going to continue calling him out.

And I did go crying to Cindy/WashPo to track him down and prevent him from posting any more, which is probably the only way to really address this.

Blah. Sorry, dudes.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 12, 2007 9:24 AM | Report abuse

While I agree with it, 9:18 AM was not me.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 12, 2007 9:25 AM | Report abuse

how's CP's ribs?

Posted by: philoneaus | September 12, 2007 9:25 AM | Report abuse

that's one reason to have a name like 'Dik'... huh.

Posted by: The AMAZING Dik Shuttle | September 12, 2007 9:26 AM | Report abuse

9:25 also not me.

Enjoy yourself, dude. When your ability to post comments up here is shut off, I wonder how you're going to spend all that free time?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 12, 2007 9:27 AM | Report abuse

I believe we've reached critical mass with the blog now being entirely self-referrential (sp?).

Hopefully that's not the same as 'jumping the shark'

Posted by: Dik | September 12, 2007 9:31 AM | Report abuse

nate switch to another name for now and continue to post and wait for A clowns IP to get shut down.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2007 9:32 AM | Report abuse

Yeah,

this guy is really going to force Cindy's hand. I don't mind a log-in.

But if it is a regular who obtains a log-in, then we would have to have our user name attached to the password for the log-in which would remove the ability to post as Vinny, et al

Posted by: Zebra | September 12, 2007 9:32 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, I agree with all that, dudes, and again I apologize because this doesn't make for the most scintillating conversation up here.

Hope WashPo can sort this out so we can move along shortly, and get back to our regularly scheduled jibba jabba...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 12, 2007 9:35 AM | Report abuse

Nate, I would imagine you have most of the regulars email addresses, take that suggestion of changing your moniker for awhile, and email them your new name

Posted by: connskins | September 12, 2007 9:40 AM | Report abuse

I think the Fudge'ums notion was the original jibba jabba on the blog ... or at least, it made jibba jabba not uncool.

kost, also thinking I'm liking the postgameheroes.com site. Guys with TiVo, a little football knowledge, and time on their hands. Those guys might have changed my thinking about Smoot. That site says Smoot single handedly won the game for the Skins. Not exactly consistent with the line here. Then it occurred to me that, with Springs not in the starting package, Smoot was the #1 CB. Ah ha. Making more sense now.

Whenever we're ready, I'd like to start talking about Javon Kearse vs. Todd Wade.

Posted by: dcsween | September 12, 2007 9:41 AM | Report abuse

This reminds me of Army of Darkness.

We'll ITA evil Nate and he'll split in to a hundred mini evil Nate's and then we'll have ourselves a real problem.

Posted by: etrod | September 12, 2007 9:42 AM | Report abuse

"Diddy, I think it's seventeen. Seventeen QBs since Gibbs I. Some of them were real stinkers, as you may have heard. WashPo did a piece on it when Soup took the helm, at least in part because of how neat it was that he was wearing #17 and he was the seventeenth."

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 12, 2007 02:59 AM

I think it was yesterday that sfskin noted a whole string of freaky coincidences re: 17. The only thing I got was that it is a prime number,

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2007 9:43 AM | Report abuse

I did some research on the whole Lloyd thing. I can't say with 100% certainty but according to what I read. (I read alot)

With the numbers avail right now utting Lloyd before the Caldwell signing would have put us 112k under the cap. That is without Caldwell however and min Salary for a vet who's played 6 years is well over that. Therefore cutting Lloyd would put the skins over the cap.

Jacks comments about not counting against this years cap are rubish as Wynn and all the rest count against this years cap. That I know for sure.

Posted by: Skinz | September 12, 2007 9:43 AM | Report abuse

Actually, all we really need is a User Id, linked to every post, and we can type in any name we want.

So NATE in the PDX #3122 is dif that NATE in the PDX #4567.

Whatdya say Cyn?

Posted by: Zebra | September 12, 2007 9:44 AM | Report abuse

I appreciate the notion, but there ain't no way I'm giving up MY NAME. Even temporarily.

I've reported this stuff to Cindy/WashPo -- which I have never done before, even in the worst Barney Fife hater/this blog stinks days -- and can only wait for something to happen on their side.

But again, I'm not sitting idly by while someone uses my nickname. No way.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 12, 2007 9:44 AM | Report abuse

9:43 was me, i.e., the real me,

Posted by: dcsween | September 12, 2007 9:48 AM | Report abuse

Dangit, all this idiocy has basically stalled the blog.

I was hoping for some good Skins talk today, especially since 4th Floor started us off on the right foot with the Gibbs/Springs clarification. Instead I'm obsessing on this blog faker. Ugh,

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 12, 2007 9:50 AM | Report abuse

I just meant change your name until this is sorted out so all the posts are assumed fake.

No way on the sign in User ID's that is a horrible idea. Then we'd find out there are only like 5 of us on this blog writing under 30 diferent names.


What is strange is why someone would harrass you. You are one of the nice guys. CL or myself I could understand.

Posted by: Skinz | September 12, 2007 9:50 AM | Report abuse

Nice work 4th. In the Times yesterday, Springs was quoted as saying that he DID NOT CARE if he started, as long as he helped the team, and that the team WON.

However, there are people who can read through that, and get to the ROOT of the matter, regardless of what came out of Shawns mouth.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | September 12, 2007 9:50 AM | Report abuse

JC is on sportstalk980. He sounds like he just got out of bed. LOL

Posted by: JustMe | September 12, 2007 9:53 AM | Report abuse

Skinz, I can only hope that they throw Belichick out of the league. You should hear the spin that the local media/fans/homers are putting on this.

"everyone does it"
"the league has it out for us"
"the league wants the colts to win"

Blah, blah, blah...I can't stand the pats, nor their fans.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | September 12, 2007 9:55 AM | Report abuse

I hear ya, Skinz, but there's something seriously wrong here.

(And it's awfully sweet of you to refer to me as one of the nice guys, relative to you and cL. I've done my share of inappropriate flaming up here, which I admit and regret.)

It's not just my nickname, this rascal is faking dcsween and other names up here. I'm just the first one to take up my pitchfork and try to drive the monster out of our happy little village,

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 12, 2007 9:55 AM | Report abuse

Greg(Boston), I was thinking that taking away draft picks seems like too delayed a penalty for something that could affect the outcome of games played this season.

Wouldn't a suspension of Belichick, preventing him from being in the stadium for a couple of Pats games, hurt them a lot more? I'm just sayin,

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 12, 2007 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Maybe it's "SIGN CHRIS COOLEY"?

I've faked as Jerry Jones before, but I've been entirely obvious about it as a parody.

That's ok, right? I mean... he's for ... (gag) Dallas...!

Posted by: Dik | September 12, 2007 10:00 AM | Report abuse

Greg (Boston),

Pats fans are so pompous. Everyone knows the league has it out for the Redskins!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2007 10:01 AM | Report abuse

Though the thought that the dastardly Belichick would sneak into the stadium in a disguise, maybe something totally out of character like a three-piece suit, gives me pause,

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 12, 2007 10:01 AM | Report abuse

I can think of a GREAT punishment for Belichik:

Make him hire Randy Moss... no... wait..
hmmmm.

Posted by: Dik | September 12, 2007 10:01 AM | Report abuse

On the Springs thing, I'm with 4th (though I love a good conspiracy). The bit about the trainers ratting out Springs to Jerry Gray seems plausible, esp. given how it was the trainers who could have/should have ratted out Brunell after he injured his shoulder and never told St. Joe last season. I wouldn't be surprised if St. Joe actually lectured the trainer staff about it -- along the lines of "What? Brunell was hurt for most of the season? How come I don't hear about that earlier?"

Posted by: dcsween | September 12, 2007 10:02 AM | Report abuse

I never said he wouldn't count this year, I said he would count this year and next with this year being a small hit and the big hit coming next year since it is after June 1st, the hit is spread out of two years. Roughly the hit would be 1.5 this year and 7.5 next year. I emailed JLa and Ryan O'Halloran from the Times, and Jla said the hit would be in the mid 6's this year, Ryan said it would be spread out like I said above. I find just as many sites saying the same for each so apparently nobody knows the real story. And I actually agree with Zebra about needing to try and extend JC and Taylor this coming offseason so I'm not even calling for Lloyd's head anymore anyway.

Posted by: Jack | September 12, 2007 10:02 AM | Report abuse

I was watching the replay of the game last night on NFL Net and something scary occured to me.

Are run D is great but our pass D aint so hot. Who has the highest Pass-to-Run offense in the league? *shivers*

Posted by: Skinz | September 12, 2007 10:03 AM | Report abuse

Nate, you pretty much nailed it. I've heard 2nd and 4th round picks will be the punishment, along with some monetary fine. Not nearly harsh enough. They've been doing this for quite some time, and need to get, dare I say, THE HAMMER.

Take a 1st round pick away from them, and I'm sure you'll have their full attention.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | September 12, 2007 10:04 AM | Report abuse

That's why we are going to win in a shootout, no Lito Shephard for them means they can't blitz as much and if they do JC will be lobbing bombs to ARE and Moss all game long. 31-28 Skins!

Posted by: Jack | September 12, 2007 10:06 AM | Report abuse

I agree. Only there 1st and 2nd rounder made the team this year because they are so stacked. Taking away a second day pick would be like the league taking Lloyd, Brandon away from us.

Posted by: Skinz | September 12, 2007 10:06 AM | Report abuse

OK, I said some Skins stuff, now my contribution to jibba jabba along the lines of Dik's mea culpa. I have posted "Walter" (from the Big L) stuff but I am not the main Walter. Also, since the real one corrected for not going verbatim, I've cleaned up my quotes. That movie, plus the Simpsons and Seinfeld, has something for almost everything we have talk about here. Also, sometimes I post without a name, but only for inappropriate remarks making fun of current NFL players who don't deserve it, for example, I put one up yesterday about Caldwell's contact lens being made out of scooped out jellyfish. Henceforth, I will stop with the intentional no name posts (sometimes I just forget). I just can't stop with the Walter though. Sorry real Walter.

Posted by: dcsween | September 12, 2007 10:07 AM | Report abuse

Morning.

I was watching the highlights of the Niners/Cards and noticed Nolan in a suit and tie. Looked sharp. Like Landry back in the day.

More coaches should dress like professionals and stop wearing the skin-tight, man-boob clown suits (Parcells, GG).

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 12, 2007 10:08 AM | Report abuse

Which would be a huge punishment because it would put us in salary cap hell as everyone has pointed out to me so kindly. lol

Posted by: Jack | September 12, 2007 10:08 AM | Report abuse

I don't want to sound like I'm defending Belechek because I can't stand him. He always reminded me of Gargamel for some reason.

That said, what can you really get from stealing signals? It seems like it would be too much work to steal the signal, relay it to the coaches and get your personal and formation in place between plays.

Posted by: etrod | September 12, 2007 10:10 AM | Report abuse

Greg(Boston), when you say THE HAMMER are you suggesting the death penalty for the Pats? Like SMU got back in the '80s?

That would be something, wouldn't it? Ah well, we can hope..,

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 12, 2007 10:10 AM | Report abuse

THe funny thing about the Belicheck spying issue is that if they have been doing this for some time, wouldnt Mangina know since he was on their staff?
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And that goes for all the other teams. People leave and people talk.

Hearing of this only now makes me thing it is an isolated incident.

But on the sideline, with a Pats shirt on? Smells of a frame job. The Jets hired some shlub to dress like a Pat and do this.

And if not, how are the guys that are hired to do this not able to fall on the grenade and say he is not affiliated with the team. Obviiusly his salary would have to be 'off the books'.

Posted by: Zebra | September 12, 2007 10:12 AM | Report abuse

I just wanted to thank you all for playing on Monday night, so that Redcoat and I can enjoy our game from the comfort of our own homes.

I hate when you guys livestockblock me.

Posted by: SMACK | September 12, 2007 10:13 AM | Report abuse

MV Dame or Cindy, if you're out there could we get an updated count?

Just curious what kind of pace we're on for the Ultimatum. I have us blowing past 100k around this time next week, if I am guessing correctly about the pace we've been on.

Of course, we'd be making a lot better progress if you two would set aside your personal and work lives and get to blogging,

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 12, 2007 10:14 AM | Report abuse

SCSF, the league (for some reason) has to give permission to coaches to dress in suits.

That said, they should punish the Pats by making Belichick STOP wearing the cut off hoodies. Frankly, maybe they should take it a step further ... making him wear Cooley shorts. Check that. That would be punishing us fans.

Posted by: dcsween | September 12, 2007 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Z,

He was on the Pats payroll and wearing one of the Pats issued field pass'. He was wearing a Cameramans vest.

Generally at NFL games a certain number of field pass' are distrubuted to each team, the media and the NFL itself.

All of them identify from which "pot" the pass came from. Therefore they would know who gave the man the pass.

Posted by: Skinz | September 12, 2007 10:15 AM | Report abuse

Thanks Sween. You gotta understand the Redskins organization is like any other business. Some departments don't communicate with other departments in matters that my relate to them. The miscommunication usually results in lost man hours and higher expenses than expected......

Gibbs said what he knew and Springs said what he knew. At no time did either contradict the other. Makes sense to me. Go check the qoutes from Springs compared to what Gibbs relayed on his radio show...

Posted by: 4th Floor | September 12, 2007 10:17 AM | Report abuse

I thought this Nater thing was dead after last night, oh well.

Nate - don't sweat it. We can discern the fake Nate. I think you are reading too much into it. I have not seen anything mean. The fake 6:11 AM post actually made me laugh.

That is the last that I will address the Nater. Re: the Pats, I wonder if this is common practice among other teams. If not, then they deserve to lose at least 1 1st rounder. Remember the T-wolves penalty back in the 90s??? Maybe the NFL can learn a lesson from the NBA.

Posted by: Cindy's boy toy | September 12, 2007 10:17 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 12, 2007 10:14 AM

Not Nate

Posted by: 4th Floor | September 12, 2007 10:18 AM | Report abuse

I heard a rumor the Pats might have to forfeit the game. Is that more severe than a fourth round pick?

Posted by: SMACK | September 12, 2007 10:18 AM | Report abuse

Guy had a patriot issued pass on. No frame job.

E-trod, lets say that you knew in advance, that a blitz was coming, not only that it was coming, but where it was coming from. Would that give you an advantage over the other team?

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | September 12, 2007 10:20 AM | Report abuse

I do not believe for a second that the Pats will forfeit a game. Has the NFL ever done that?

Posted by: Cindy's boy toy | September 12, 2007 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Nate, until this is resolved, you could always tag your posts with obscure stats from the EPL fantasy league. If your doppelganger can do that, then we've narrowed it down to a pretty short list of regulars.

Posted by: SMACK | September 12, 2007 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Pretty sure we're now getting fake 4th Floor and fake dcsween posts up here. This is getting more complicated and less and less funny.

10:14 was me, 10:18 was not 4th Floor (I think).

The rest of you, please keep blogging your guts out! We're on the verge of a good solid football conversation, which is what's needed to pull us out of these identity theft doldrums.

I say again, yea verily, ugh,

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 12, 2007 10:23 AM | Report abuse

OK, I did not really read the article, I just heard about it on the radio. I was thinking young guy, pats shirt on, camera. Not thinking about credentials, and the vest, very James Bond. I guess I dont have the mind for such devisiveness

Posted by: Zebra | September 12, 2007 10:24 AM | Report abuse

This taints the Pats SB wins worse than my home run record.

Posted by: Barry Bonds | September 12, 2007 10:25 AM | Report abuse

I don't think they would ever make them forfeit a game, all I've heard is that the commish is considering taking multiple picks from them, I agree with the above, while multiple picks would hurt, unless one is a first day pick it doesn't hurt that badly.

Posted by: Jack | September 12, 2007 10:25 AM | Report abuse

"I heard a rumor the Pats might have to forfeit the game. Is that more severe than a fourth round pick?"

Posted by: SMACK | September 12, 2007 10:18 AM

Not if its the Skins game. The Pats already lost that one. wink wink. [prayers muttered under breath.]

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2007 10:27 AM | Report abuse

"Dangit, all this idiocy has basically stalled the blog."

Nate... I wasn't really aware we were moving in any sort of direction (except for the Ultimatum.)

I am very opposed to log-ins. It would discourage the curious lurkers from commenting. Signing up is a commitment that most people don't want to deal with. It would make this more clique-ish than ever and we'd basically turn into ES. Do we really want that? Also, I agree... the fake name postings can be really funny at times (uber annoying other times) Nate, you're feeding the beast and yet at the same time feeding the Ultimatums insatiable appetite.

Posted by: Dorf | September 12, 2007 10:28 AM | Report abuse

so far this morning, I have been real ... except the part about this guy sitting my chair who is intermittently getting some work done btwn posts,

Posted by: dcsween | September 12, 2007 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Aye, SMACK. I do think the culprit it's probably one of our fantasy league peeps.

[conspiratorial exaggerated stage whisper] I am looking forward to my matchup this weekend against EMXPX CF. We're vying for fifteenth place in the league!

We're all suspects..,

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 12, 2007 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Rumors abound that the Gmen will pick up Simms from Tampa. This probably means that our boy LBM isn't as Day-to-Day as the Gmen would have us believe.

It also means that they aren't enamored with their backup the Pillsbury Throwboy.

Posted by: Skinz | September 12, 2007 10:29 AM | Report abuse

"Schefter also reports that the league plans on summoning New England coach Bill Belichick to its offices in New York this week to discuss the matter, and that possible punishment being considered by the NFL include fines, loss of draft picks and suspensions or all three."

Posted by: nfl.com | September 12, 2007 10:30 AM | Report abuse

I personally like the sign up idea, it would get rid of a lot of the hateful interaction I think.

Posted by: Jack | September 12, 2007 10:30 AM | Report abuse

Trust no one...

Posted by: Mulder | September 12, 2007 10:31 AM | Report abuse

Think Belichick takes steroids, too?

Posted by: Cindy's boy toy | September 12, 2007 10:31 AM | Report abuse

'culprit is...' See how worked up I am? That was an unintentional grammatical gaffe! So out of character! This dastardly plan is working! I'm no longer myself!

Dorf, I'm with you 100%. We've just never had to deal with anything like this before.

It's clearly someone who simultaneously loves and hates the blog, someone with a particularly twisted lust for may hens, I think,

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 12, 2007 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Greg,

Lets walk through this step by step. (New Kids style since your in beantown)

1) Pat's spotter sees Jet's d-coordinator's signals and decyphers them. (Keep in mind that it's common practice for coaches to disguise signals anyway)
6) Spotter radios the translation to Pat's o-coordinator.
D) Pat's o-coordinator radios this to Tom Brady who makes the adjustment at the line and burns the blitz.

Remember that the QB's helmet piece cuts off 10 seconds before the play is run. So the Pats have 25 seconds to steal the signal and get it in before the play is run when in reality Tom Brady should have a good idea where a blitz is coming from if he studied his film during the week.

Posted by: etrod | September 12, 2007 10:33 AM | Report abuse

I want to see "Empty suit" Goodell throw the book at the Pats like he does the players. Belichick is headed for the slammer . .

Posted by: JamesTuthill | September 12, 2007 10:34 AM | Report abuse

A signup would probably reduce our count some but the hardcore bloggers would make up for it I think cause it would be fun conversation about football and not hateful name calling.

Posted by: Jack | September 12, 2007 10:35 AM | Report abuse

10:25 was not me.

Posted by: Barry Bonds | September 12, 2007 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Actually Jack, First day pick now has a different meaning, right? Friday Night is First Round Primetime, then Sat is 2 -4 and then sunday 5 and up.

Would really suck if you were in the green room and you moved outta the first round, are you gonna come back Saturday?

Posted by: Zebra | September 12, 2007 10:36 AM | Report abuse

I haven't seen, will Shaun Andrews be back for the Skins game? He or his replacement will be the guy trying to block Griff, that matchup could be huge if he's not 100% or their backup is in there. If I'm GG I send a couple blitzes up that gap early.

Posted by: Jack | September 12, 2007 10:37 AM | Report abuse

I pretended to be Nate in the Dining Room with the Canldestick.

Posted by: Col. Mustard | September 12, 2007 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Special K,
I know I'm a bit late on this one, and it's totally off topic right now. Stravinsky's "Rite of Spring" is actually about a peasant ritual, a pagan dance and a virgin sacrifice. (The virgin dances herself to death.) It caused a riot when it premiered in Paris in 1912 (not totally sure about the year)...lots of naked ladies and provocative dancing goin on because it was also originally written as a ballet. When they performed it a year later, the people carried Stravinsky out on their shoulders like a hero reborn. If you look at Stravinsky's score, it looks like a work of art...absoutly no scribbles or noticable corrections of any kind. Anyone who wants to be blown away should check this piece out. It sounds revolutionary even today, almost 100 years later.

On to this week's game...it's a given I want the Skin's to rule that A$$ this weekend, but I always have a soft spot in my heart for Westbrook. I went to high school with him, and although I don't know him personally, he's too much of a class act to route against. Therefore I hope he scores the Iggles only touchdown while we pour it on.

Posted by: Uncle Heyron | September 12, 2007 10:38 AM | Report abuse

NAte - My attempt at a bad guess of the Natter. Def me. Let's not give tha nater any new thoughts.....

Posted by: 4th | September 12, 2007 10:38 AM | Report abuse

I'd love to pop Bellichick in his nose, that smug SOB. I think it's pretty safe to assume that he's a guy everyone in the league hates, unless of course he's coaching your team.

Nate, try to ignore the dude.

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | September 12, 2007 10:38 AM | Report abuse

sorry...."Root"

Posted by: Uncle Heyron | September 12, 2007 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Anybody know about the Shaun Andrews thing?

Posted by: Jack | September 12, 2007 10:42 AM | Report abuse

Hell, if I'd a had someone stealing signals and someone like Brady then I could'a led us to the Super Bowl.

Posted by: The Ole Ball Coach | September 12, 2007 10:42 AM | Report abuse

Uncle Heyron, you could have just gone one little step further and made a correlation between the pagan dance/virgin sacrifice and our game against the Iggles, couldn't you?

I'm just sayin',


(Watermark: SMACK's team has a +6 point differential in our EPL fantasy league, while my team has a -119 PD. His team is doing better than mine. I forgot the fantasy note on my last post.)

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 12, 2007 10:42 AM | Report abuse

The Eagles re-signed Reno Mahe for returns, who they cut earlier, but for the life of me I can't figure out why. Seems like he has good games against the Skins.

Nude ballet and virgins? NOW you got my attention about this Stravinsky stuff.

Posted by: dcsween | September 12, 2007 10:43 AM | Report abuse

I heard on LeBatard's show that the photographer had been previously banned for the same offense before, though I'm not sure it was for the Pats.

If it wasn't, this practice is probably pretty common. I would assume it is, given the high level of competition in the NFL today.

Remember when George Allen used to open the RFK doors after the opposing kicker had lined up the kick?! Beautiful devious bastard!

Posted by: Dik | September 12, 2007 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Jack,

This was the last I had heard about Andrews (other than the crying). http://www.philly.com/dailynews/sports/20070818_Sources__Andrews_injury_could_be_serious.html Andrews started, however, in Green Bay.

Posted by: dcsween | September 12, 2007 10:47 AM | Report abuse

... and it doesn't look like the Eagles subbed in another guard to spell Andrews for the entire game,

Posted by: dcsween | September 12, 2007 10:49 AM | Report abuse

NEW YORK -- A story in Wednesday's New York Daily News claims that Jets coach Eric Mangini, a former New England assistant under Bill Belichick, came armed with keen knowledge of the team's surveillance methods -- and finally decided to act.

"(The Jets) knew they did it," the Daily News wrote, citing a person with knowledge of the situation, who sent the newspaper an e-mail. "They caught the guy a year ago, but couldn't do anything about it. When Eric came, he said that's what they used to do. Bill is going to be (ticked) at Eric. He kissed and told."

It is the fifth time Mangini has coached against Belichick.

-- ESPN.com news services

Posted by: coskins | September 12, 2007 10:49 AM | Report abuse

E-trod, maybe it doesn't help them during the first quarter, or the second quarter. However lets say that by halftime the pats have figured out all their signals, and know that when the guy sending in the signals stands on one leg, and windmills his arms, that its a corner blitz, and Brady has to check down to the hot route.

See what I'm getting at. Maybe its a moot point early in the game, but once you've learned what signal means what, you've got a tactical advantage.

The local radio station here likened it to a pitcher versus batter scenario, where the batter knows that the next pitch is going to be a fastball, and not a cut fastball, or a split, but straight gas. The batter has the advantage.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | September 12, 2007 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Jack, looking a little more closely, I might be wrong. The Eagles subbed in a center. I don't know if he played center or spelled Andrews for a while. http://www.nfl.com/liveupdate/gamecenter/29198/GB_Gamebook.pdf

Posted by: dcsween | September 12, 2007 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Nate - I'm trying to move the discussion back to football. Please join me.

All other chat is superfluous.

Posted by: Cindy's boy toy | September 12, 2007 10:51 AM | Report abuse

dc, thanks for the info, regardless, I think Griff can manhandle him cause he's not 100%, so you gotta think they'll double team him, I'd love to see GG send Rocky or Landry up that gap a couple times early.

Posted by: Jack | September 12, 2007 10:53 AM | Report abuse

I found the Golden Nugget. Briiliant. Who says I can't be the next Redskins Capoligist?!?!?


"POSTED 10:27 a.m. EDT, September 12, 2007

VIKES PUSH $13.2 MILLION INTO 2008 CAP

A league source tells us that the recent contract extension signed by Vikings defensive tackle Pat Williams has allowed the team to carry a whopping $13.2 million in 2007 cap space into the 2008 cap year.

The Vikings managed this feat via the use of a "likely to be earned incentive" that, as a practical matter, will not be earned given the position that Williams plays. For example, rushing attempts of less than 100 and pass receptions of less than 32 are "likely to be earned" under Article XXIV (and Exhibit B) of the Collective Bargaining Agreement. Since there's no requirement that the player who has, for example, a likely to be earned incentive tied to rushing attempts or pass receptions actually play offense for the team, the tactic is permissible.

The end result? When Williams doesn't reach the trigger for the $13.2 million payment as a result of the 2007 final statistics, the cap room will be credited to the team's number in 2008.

The NFLPA doesn't like this tactic, since it prevents players from earning money in the current cap year. However, the use of the phony LTBE incentive as part of a legitimate contract restructuring will likely insulate Williams' agent, Angelo Wright, from any scrutiny.

"

Posted by: 4th via PFT | September 12, 2007 10:54 AM | Report abuse

If they subbed the center to spell the center, then all the better. Griffin is the key intangible in this game.

Also, beep beep, new post,

Posted by: dcsween | September 12, 2007 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Indeed Nate,

my 'skins bloggery is nowhere as up to par as my music history nerdery. The sub-sections of The Rite do come to mind as a parallel..."Ritual of the Two Rival Tribes", "Procession of the Oldest and Wisest One" (St. Joe), "The Kiss of the Earth" (McNabb's face in the dirt after a Reaper and L2 sandwich), "The Naming and Honoring of the Chosen One" (Hail, Baby!)

Ok, way too much nerdery.

Posted by: Uncle Heyron | September 12, 2007 10:56 AM | Report abuse

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3014742

Good news, of course, out of Buffalo.

It's also a testament to what a well-run medical research program can do. Very, very, very impressive. I read one article where they described the saline solution and induced hypothermia as an ice pack for the spinal column, similar to how we'd put an ice pack on a bruise.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 12, 2007 10:56 AM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2007 10:58 AM | Report abuse

We're all suspects..,

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 12, 2007 10:29 AM

not me

Posted by: Keyser Soze | September 12, 2007 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Shawn Andrews is fine. He played the whole game and played well. He had a high ankle sprain that kept him out of the preseason, but he's back to 100%. The Big Kid doesn't get manhandled; he's not an all pro left tackle for nothing. You're better off attacking the right side, where Herremans provides the weakest link on a very good oline.

Posted by: dcIggle | September 12, 2007 11:19 AM | Report abuse

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