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Doughty's Back Still Balky

From Jason La Canfora:

Safety Reed Doughty said the nerve problem in his back continues to cause problems and he will not practice today. He said it looks doubtful that he will play Sunday, but he isn't ruling it out, adding that there's a chance he could practice tomorrow.

By Cindy Boren  |  October 9, 2008; 12:09 PM ET
 
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First?

Posted by: splitbill | October 9, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Love this line about Pacman Jones from a media guy in Dallas.

“If character really doesn’t matter, why don’t they sign Osama Bin Laden to play wide receiver? They need one, he’s six-four, and we know nobody can catch him.”

Posted by: Gweez | October 9, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

My only thought is that they assign the games to the commentators before they decide where they are showing it.

That is a really strange map - what happens to the places that are not all colored in?

Posted by: suzannepdc | October 9, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse

I think they may get nothing - like in Houston, when the Texans are at home - Fox cannot/does not show anything against that

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | October 9, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: NateinthePDX | October 9, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Looks like Horton will have to step up.

Posted by: splitbill | October 9, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Fine by me, dont wish back problems on anyone cause that S aint fun but at this point i get angry when Doughty is out there. It seems like everytime i see a special teams takcle #41 is in on the tackle or coming out of the pile. think its time for him to step into that rotation full time, seems to be working out pretty well for the last guy we gave a chance to.

Posted by: Stu27 | October 9, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

I think they may get nothing - like in Houston, when the Texans are at home - Fox cannot/does not show anything against that

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | October 9, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse
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They can't? What bizarro rule is that? (BTW, that explains why they didn't show the Skins/Eagles game last week, but showed the 3pm Bronco/TB game).

Posted by: suzannepdc | October 9, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

I thought that was Serge? or should I say "See-erge"?

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | October 9, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

+++Sources said that it’s "highly doubtful" Tuesday night’s (Pacman) incident would lead to a suspension.--JASNO++++

If you ever get to Jerry Jones office, you'll see a display case that includes three balls. The "Game Ball" from Dallas' last Superbowl win, and Goodell's.

Posted by: TheCork | October 9, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Hilarious Cork

Posted by: Gweez | October 9, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

It may have something to do with the blackout rules; on the other hand, they may just figure that, with the Texans on, no one will watch another game.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | October 9, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Go Cleveland. Beat the Giants. 5-1 Division Leader
Hail to the Redskins

Posted by: FAB88 | October 9, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Sorry to hear about Doughty, but in all honesty I want to see Horton play as much as possible this season.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | October 9, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

I have a feeling that by the beginning of next year, Doughty will be 4th on the safety depth chart, and possibly in danger of being cut (for poor special teams play). Kareem Moore will start to creep up on Doughty on soon enough, never mind Horton.

Posted by: psps23 | October 9, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

It's part of the television guidelines - each market only gets three games on Sunday afternoon - Washington and Baltimore are exceptions to that becaue they are the rare overlapping media market.

Don't even ask me to explain how they figure out the Jets and the Giants.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | October 9, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

"My only thought is that they assign the games to the commentators before they decide where they are showing it."

Is it just me, or do others think Tony Kornheiser become the most insufferable "color" man ever to man a mic in televised football history?

I looked up Bloviator in my Funk & Wagnalls and his picture had replaced O'Reilly.

They hired him for Comic relief and he not only isn't funny, but he's convinced himself he's the worl'd leading expert on football--which he most definitely is not.

Shut up, just please Lord, shut up. For five minutes. Ten, even.

You know someone has Logorrhea when a guy named "Jaws" can't get a word in edgewise.

I yearn for the reticent tones of Joe Theismann.

ESPN should have kept the original Monday night team. I now listen with the sound off.


Posted by: TheCork | October 9, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and "The Truth" gets old reruns of St. Louis Football Cardinals games

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | October 9, 2008 12:53 PM | Report abuse

From wikipedia (so you know it's true). Guess I have been spoiled since I have lived in DC and Hartford (Giants market), so I always got the NFC double header games. This is the policy for non-competition with the home team:

"Another policy to ensure a filled-up stadium is that no other NFL games can air on local TV at the same time as a team's home game in the club's primary market. This is to prevent ticket-holders from opting to watch the other locally televised NFL game instead of showing up at the stadium. Thus when a team's home game is on the network showing a single game, the network televising the doubleheader can only broadcast one game into that club's primary market; instead of showing a second game in the same time slot as the home game, the doubleheader network's local station must broadcast alternative programming (often movies or infomercials). When the doubleheader network has a team's home game, the other station might program the time themselves or air some other network programming scheduled for the non-NFL time-slot. However, in special occasions, this rule may be relaxed. One example of this is the week when CBS carries the U.S. Open. Since CBS only carries 1:00 games on that Sunday, it may show those games opposite a team which has a home game on FOX at the same time."

Posted by: suzannepdc | October 9, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Key points from Keim about yesterday that I haven't seen any where else:

...When you win, life is grand. After practice today, Portis and Thomas did a spot for Redskins.com TV. While waiting for
the segment to start they shouted over to special teams coach Danny Smith to come on the air. Smith was going to work
with a player on a tackling dummy. So he said, "You ain’t using me to get your ratings up!" To which Portis said, "We
need some bleeps in here!" In other words, an interview with Smith would need a lot of bleeps.

...At one point Portis told Thomas, "You attract the old crowd. You’re like 40 years old; everyone in the nursing home is
watching you." Thomas snapped back, "You want me to block for you this week?"

...Portis would sneak in one word every now and then. The word? Championship. This team feels it. Yes, it’s early, but
they’re walking tall. Right now, I’d call it confidence and not cockiness.

...Durant Brooks had a strong day of punting today. Much better hangtime and distance. He’s still on notice.

...Zorn called out rookie Devin Thomas again, saying he must become more disciplined in his routes if he wants to get more time.

If Malcolm Kelly is healthy, don’t be surprised if he plays more than Thomas. Before practice, Kelly received
one-on-one work with receivers coach Stan Hixon.

...........

So, if a player uses the word, can I?

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 9, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

I live in NYC, and the Jets and Giants never play at the same time; if the G-Men are on at 1, the Jets are on at 4 - or one will be on Sunday during the day, and the other on SNF night or MNF, etc., etc.

But I think all that market BS needs to end; people should be allowed to pay to see whichever games they want - through their cable companies, just like NBA League Pass and MLB Extra Innings.... This DirectTV Sunday Ticket monopoly needs to end when the current contract runs out, imho.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | October 9, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

+++I have a feeling that by the beginning of next year, Doughty will be 4th on the safety depth chart, and possibly in danger of being cut (for poor special teams play). Kareem Moore will start to creep up on Doughty on soon enough, never mind Horton.++++

Of course you do, because nothing enhances a player's performance more than a bad back.

I love it when people who would call in sick for a hangnail celebrate an injured player's downfall.

The only thing in shorter supply than literacy on this board is empathy.

Posted by: TheCork | October 9, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Wikipedia is just a wealth of information! to answer your question John:

"For this reason, the New York Giants and New York Jets are never scheduled on the same network on the same day (unless they play each other) because they both share the same primary media market. The San Francisco 49ers and the Oakland Raiders are treated likewise. Otherwise, the networks could theoretically have to cut away from one team's game to show the other team. In general, the league never schedules the Giants and the Jets to play their games at the same time (except for a head-to-head meeting), and the same usually goes for the 49ers and the Raiders, though this can mean one of those teams will play a road game at 10:00 AM PT. Also, either the 49ers or Raiders will typically be scheduled for a prime-time game, regardless of their records during the previous season.[10] The often complicated television package is a significant factor in why the NFL schedule for a particular season takes several weeks to develop."

Posted by: suzannepdc | October 9, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

FYI: For any fellow Manhattanites on here, one of the best places to watch Redskins games here in the Apple is Red Sky Bar on East 29th Street between Park & Madison.

www.redskynyc.com

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | October 9, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

John, we usually only get 3 games, then SNF and MNF.

Posted by: alex35332 | October 9, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

This DirectTV Sunday Ticket monopoly needs to end when the current contract runs out, imho.

It's a monopoly alright. However, it's also worth every penny!

Posted by: will_ga | October 9, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

1) While I do enjoy laughing at the Cowboys, I find it sad so many people can take joy at one person making life-altering mistakes. Glass houses, etc.

2) I call BS on the chrislarry story. No way you were happy at any point in that game before we scored. That game was awful and Brunnel was lucky to throw it over 10 yards.

3) I want to apologize for defending myself in the past. From now on I will just let everyone insult me and never respond.

4) Still not a regular.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | October 9, 2008 9:42 AM | Report abuse


hey truth...

how can you not laugh at pac man...its pathetic...

me and my bro were talking/laughing last night at this and 3 other classics...lawrence phillips...maurice clarret...and the vick brothers..

and asking each other...which story is the most pathetic of the 4...thats a hard ranking to do...they are all 10 out of 10 on the pathetic meter...

just a case of 5 idiots thinking the world revolves around them and that they are above the law and rules that everyone else has to live by...

i guess these should all be stories in the top 5 of the annual Darwin Awards...

but the question is...in what order???

if only they could have had jim zorn help them "stayed medium"!!!!!

Posted by: deadskin | October 9, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

As the old saying goes:

My favorite team is the Redskins.
My second-favorite team is whoever is playing the Cowboys.

GO CARDS!!!

Posted by: TDawg1 | October 9, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

You know, if this streak keeps up and the NFC is as good as it seems....we may have a bunch of Sunday Night "Flex" games in December. Uh oh, that means more Madden.

Posted by: cej75024 | October 9, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

being in seattle...sunday ticket is indeed worth every penny...for those who can afford it...fortunately i can and justify the costs...cheaper and just an all around better idea than going to the bar every sunday morning...

problem is that it is a monopoly and if it wasnt, it would be a lot cheaper and be worth much more than every penny...

Posted by: deadskin | October 9, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

I thought the flex games were for teams battling for playoff spots. Hopefully, we'll be doing so well by then that we won't be fighting for a spot; we'll already have one locked up.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | October 9, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

good point, redskin 21

Posted by: cej75024 | October 9, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

With all the jabber of games on TV, I thought I'd throw this out there:

I watched Sunday's Skins/Eagles game on DIRECTV at home here in DC. I could hear our neighbors, who presumably have cable, screaming on several key plays before the ball was even snapped. So DIRECTV has about a 10 second delay from what I could tell.

I was going mad hearing them scream and watching with a delay, like what the hell is happening!?!

Posted by: RambleOn | October 9, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

It's all pretty complicated (NFL, TV and blackouts) - I agree with Mr 'Skin - I would pay $20.00 per week to see the 'Skins - on the other hand - my inner economist tells me that I should then just convert to DirectTV

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | October 9, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Cindy what's the deal with schleppin' the Bog over here?

Posted by: Gweez | October 9, 2008 9:08 AM

Possible answers:

1. Cross-marketing.

2. Some readers might be interested in hearing about the existence of other Redskins-related articles.

Posted by: tafka | October 9, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

I was going mad hearing them scream and watching with a delay, like what the hell is happening!?!

The signal has to travel up to the satellite and then back down. That is a lot of extra distance for the signal to travel versus the cable signal distance.

Posted by: Markin21132 | October 9, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Ramble On,
You think thats bad, there is a 10 second delay between Cable and the Air Waves too. I havd a TV in the bed room with rabit ears and I always know I can watch in there & go to the living room for my own instant replay. There is about a 40 second delay for what the radio broadcasters say too, usually you can hear Larry Michael call the last play just as the play you are watching is finishing up.

Posted by: alex35332 | October 9, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

With all the jabber of games on TV, I thought I'd throw this out there:

I watched Sunday's Skins/Eagles game on DIRECTV at home here in DC. I could hear our neighbors, who presumably have cable, screaming on several key plays before the ball was even snapped. So DIRECTV has about a 10 second delay from what I could tell.

I was going mad hearing them scream and watching with a delay, like what the hell is happening!?!

Posted by: RambleOn | October 9, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

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That happens when I talk on the phone with my sister (but it can be a good thing, takes away the tension of a third and long sometimes), but I cannot get what's on the local channels on my DirecTV - have to go to the local CBS or FOX station to see those - very complicated those NFL TV deals.

Posted by: suzannepdc | October 9, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

I watched Sunday's Skins/Eagles game on DIRECTV at home here in DC. I could hear our neighbors, who presumably have cable, screaming on several key plays before the ball was even snapped. So DIRECTV has about a 10 second delay from what I could tell.

I was going mad hearing them scream and watching with a delay, like what the hell is happening!?!

Posted by: RambleOn

I had the same thing with regular/HD cable. I'd watch it at my parents house in HD, and my brother would be downstairs watching it on regular cable -- you always knew when a big play was coming from the reaction downstairs. Although it wasn't quite a 10 second delay, maybe about 4 or 5.

Posted by: psps23 | October 9, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

What about the status of Springs, Marcus Washington, Cornelius Griffin, Heyer, and Taylor? I really hope Springs and Griffin play they are key members of the defense. HB Blades has done a wonderful job of filling for Marcus Washington, I hope my boy Marcus returns also. Even if Heyer is healthy enough to play, I hope we stick with Jansen at RT. HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!

Posted by: Skins28 | October 9, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Cork, there are very few TV broadcasters I enjoy listening to, so I frequently just turn the sound down.

I do enjoy Buck, Aikman, and Pam Oliver.

I actually enjoy Michaels and Madden, I know a lot of people don't. Michaels will always be a favorite becuase of the 1980 Olympic hockey game.

I think my least favorite announcer historically is Dan Dierdorf.

My all-time favorite announcer was listening to Mel Procter broadcast the Bullets back in the day.

Posted by: isnadd | October 9, 2008 1:49 PM | Report abuse

With all the jabber of games on TV, I thought I'd throw this out there:

I watched Sunday's Skins/Eagles game on DIRECTV at home here in DC. I could hear our neighbors, who presumably have cable, screaming on several key plays before the ball was even snapped. So DIRECTV has about a 10 second delay from what I could tell.

I was going mad hearing them scream and watching with a delay, like what the hell is happening!?!

Posted by: RambleOn | October 9, 2008 1:10

I had a similar problem with my DVR. For last Sunday's game, I was a few minutes delayed on the family room tv and my boys were watching real time in the basement. They started screaming on the ARE to Cooley TD. At least it was good news but I wasn't too surprised when it happened -- knew something big was coming.

Note to self -- don't let the kids watch on a different tv.

Posted by: M00SE | October 9, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Ramble On,
You think thats bad, there is a 10 second delay between Cable and the Air Waves too. I havd a TV in the bed room with rabit ears and I always know I can watch in there & go to the living room for my own instant replay. There is about a 40 second delay for what the radio broadcasters say too, usually you can hear Larry Michael call the last play just as the play you are watching is finishing up.
Posted by: alex35332 | October 9, 2008 1:21 PM |

You need to invest in an atenna for your TV so you can watch the game 'on time'

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 9, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Buck Sucks! He thinks he is smarter than everyone else, and he isn't even a football guy!

Simms and Nance are great.
So is Dan Dierdorf and whoever he is working with.

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 9, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Hello Redskins Nation.

We are very excited to have the team come home after winning two NFC East road games against the Dallas Cowboys and the Philadelphia Eagles. HAIL!

This week we have the St. Louis Rams, and this will not be an easy game, especially if we want to maintain our growth and standing the NFC East, the NFC conference, and the league.

We are the only team in the NFL with a battle cry (Hail to the Redskins!). And now we are the only team in the NFL with a post-game celebrate chant thanks to our new Head Coach Jim Zorn (Hip-Hip Hooray!).

After beating the Dallas Cowboys, the supposedly best team in the NFL, Jim Zorn in the locker led the team in a celebration chat of Hip-Hip Hooray. It would be exciting to have the entire stadium, and the Redskins Nation, join the team in the celebration chant before they head to the locker room.

My brother and I are organizing the first Hip-Hip Hooray celebration chant this Sunday after our team beats the St. Louis Rams at the stadium. If it is clear at the 2:00 minute warning of the 4th quarter that the Washington Redskins will win the game we ask that all Redskins fans in the stadium (we will be at the game in Section 424---Row 12---Seats 7, 8 & 9) to join us in a celebration chant of Hip-Hip Hooray!

If it is not clear by the 2:00 minute warning of the 4th quarter that we will win the game then we will start the chant 30 seconds later at 1:30 minute mark. If not then, then 30 second later at the 1:00 minute mark. If not then, then 30 seconds later at the 30 second mark.

You get the pattern. At some point at the 2:00 minute warning of the 4th quarter or after we want to do the chant if it is clear we will win the game. We do not want to do the chant before the 2:00 minute warning of the 4th quarter!

To make it easy for everyone to participate for the first time we asking that the entire stadium join together in the Hip-Hip Hooray chant in unison. And yes brings to celebrate.

If we are successful in getting fans to join in after the game this week, then we will organize the second chant with sections of the stadium doing the call (Hip-Hip) and the other sections doing the response (Hooray!).

We hope this celebration chant will become a tradition for Redskins fans attending the game after each victory.

Please join us this Sunday for a big Hip-Hip Hooray, after we win the game.

Thanks,

Derek Silver and Marvin Silver
Washington Redskins Fans 4 Life

PS, Check us out on Facebook at Hip-Hip Hooray (Washington Redskin's Coach Jim Zorn's Celebration Cry)

Posted by: silvermarvin | October 9, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

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