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Salary Cap Update

Some would try to make it sound as if the Redskins just barely beat a deadline to get under the cap, but as I've always said, one thing this team can do is create cap space/

The contracts for Mark Brunell and Rock Cartwright void at the the start of free agency - again, no newsflash - and leaves the Redskins with $3.5 million in cap sapce (not exactly just getting under the cap), according to sources with knowledge of the sitiuation.

Also, as I have been reporting, the Skins and Santana Moss have agreed to a restructuring that will save the team several million more. Also, league sources said the Clinton Portis is working on a renegotiated deal today, and once that becomes official and is reflected in the salary cap figures, the Skins could easily have $7 million to play with.

Marcus Washington, Shawn Springs and Cornelius Griffin are all open to the idea of moving money around as well under the right agreement, so the Skins could easily create another $5 million in space that way. They won't have room to go crazy, but they say they won't be doing that anyway.

I continue to believe the trade market will be a siren they cannot resist. The D tackle market is flooded with Dewayne Robertson, Marcus Stroud, Kris Jenkins, Corey Williams, Shaun Rogers. By tonight some of those guys will be gone (some may be swapped straight up for each other) but still I believe possibilities will open over the next few weeks.

Also, if the Skins stick to their guns and don't go around making initial offers to everyone, and let people visit other teams first, get offers, and they see what it will take to beat those deals, that's not a bad way to go, either.

(In non-Skins news, there are rumblings Stroud and Rogers could be swapped, and that Jon Vilma might be going to New Orleans. I continue to hear that Drayton Florence will be visiting Detroit at the on-set of free agency, that Randy Moss essentially has a deal with the Pats and the Bears are coming on very hard to keep Berrian, but are pretty much resolved now to losing Briggs).

By Jason La Canfora  |  February 28, 2008; 3:31 PM ET
 
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First

Posted by: land.josh | February 28, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

BONG!

Posted by: bigmurf08 | February 28, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

I don't get it. Does anyone care if you are first?

Posted by: mopp04 | February 28, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Funny non football post-

So I am a mid level manager in a non profit. And in non profits one major role is handing out Hand jobs to funders and rich people. So I was just in my CEO's office choking back an institutional wrap listening to some BS about what we should be doing from this rich woman. Meanwhile she is so gaseous that she is literally burping and belching while talking. No excuse me, no covering her mouth. Now I if I laugh I am fired....so I am trying to keep my composure as she belch-talks her way through lunch. I came back to my office and exploded in laughter.....

Posted by: chrislarry | February 28, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

cL,
I'm sure it was good for her, I hope it was good for you.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | February 28, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

That's why I don't shotgun beers until after my presentations. Hope you at least got the cash.

Posted by: SMACK1 | February 28, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

CL, Just goes to show you you can take the pig out of the slop but not the slop out of the pig.

Posted by: Forrest | February 28, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

So how much cap space is needed to sign the players you draft?

Posted by: _Stumped_ | February 28, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

I don't get it. Does anyone care if you are first?

Posted by: mopp04 | February 28, 2008 04:08 PM

I care. My whole family cares.

Posted by: skinfanman | February 28, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

The boss now poking his head into cL's office and saying, "Yo, you just got Punk'd!"

Posted by: 4-12 | February 28, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Lack of class resonates through all tiers of society I guess.

We shouldn't need much money for draft picks since we are at #21. The 1st rounder is always the most expensive by far and down that low shouldn't be tto bad.

What's up with Stroud? I know he was hurt last year but that name kinda suprises me as an option in the trade market.

Posted by: cdubb | February 28, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

I just can't see them being players in the trade market, it just seems out of their realm of things they could be capable of at this point.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 28, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

PROCESS!!!

Posted by: novus_0 | February 28, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Just once, I wish the Skins would stop mortgaging future seasons to create salary cap space in the present. They've been doing this every since '99 - except for a brief Schottenheimer respite - and it's gotten them nowhere. Now there are holes at both OLB spots, 1 DT, 1 DE, RT, LG, #1 receiver, and FS. Good luck filling those with the draft. Meanwhile, the Skins are still in the toughest division in football.

Death. Taxes. Vinnie. (Wise, 2005)

Posted by: Dellis2 | February 28, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Anthony McFarland was cut last night...We need BOOGER!

Bring Him on!

Posted by: WaPoLiveFan16 | February 28, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

"Salary Cap Update
Some would try to make it sound as if the Redskins just barely beat a deadline to get under the cap, but as I've always said, one thing this team can do is create cap space/

The contracts for Mark Brunell and Rock Cartwright void at the the start of free agency - again, no newsflash - and leaves the Redskins with $3.5 million in cap sapce (not exactly just getting under the cap), according to sources with knowledge of the sitiuation.
"


Direct swipe at the Times. To be fair, I believe they have been reporting this the same length of time that JLaC has. They are just reiterating that it happened today.

But, what about the Zorn-Gus Ferrotte connection???

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 28, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Stroud is 29, and coming off a knee injury. Not exactly the type of guy whom you'd want to trade for at this point in his career.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 28, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Yo JaLa,

I know that it is your job to feed the rabid packs of Skins-addicts year round (I must admit, I think I qualify as one of them) with interesting tidbits such as the firing of the VP for Public Relations (guess he didn't do a good enough job publicly obscuring the fact that Snyder is a complete donkey).

But what about your SOCCER roots, baby...CL is heating up, who do you like???

Posted by: p1funk | February 28, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Meanwhile she is so gaseous that she is literally burping and belching while talking.

Posted by: chrislarry | February 28, 2008 04:09 PM

Well, at least she was upper body gaseous. Imagine giving her a had job if she sent it out the other end.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 28, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Re the last post. If there was any joy left in my heart, I would have laughed at the irony of firing a public relations person.

"Why didn't my horrible mishandling of the coaching circus test better in public?...Oh yeah, thanks Vinny, and why am I the joke of the league again? This is all your fault VP of public relations guy who couldn't make my sideshow caliber foibles look like calculated best practices. Don't ever call us again."

I would love if we kind of went 'Moneyball' this off-season. This is with an obvious understanding that the 2 headed hela-monster on stilts that makes our decisions has a 'blind man's chance in a dark room to find the funny mural' of making any kind of correct decision. But, I would love if they went after an 'undervalued' or 'under explored' commodity. If we could swing a trade for one of those behemoth men that destroy other men, it would be pretty sweet. I want quarterbacks to be touched forcefully by our players.

Posted by: ArtMonkToTheSticks | February 28, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

I want Kris Jenkins...make it happen

Posted by: Moose33 | February 28, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Funny non football post-

So I am a mid level manager in a non profit. And in non profits one major role is handing out Hand jobs to funders and rich people. So I was just in my CEO's office choking back an institutional wrap listening to some BS about what we should be doing from this rich woman. Meanwhile she is so gaseous that she is literally burping and belching while talking. No excuse me, no covering her mouth. Now I if I laugh I am fired....so I am trying to keep my composure as she belch-talks her way through lunch. I came back to my office and exploded in laughter.....

Posted by: chrislarry | February 28, 2008 04:09 PM

CL, meet barno
Barno, meet CL

Adam

Posted by: argh | February 28, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

AMTTS, intriguing... so you're saying we should go away from the model of adding at least one big-ticket dude a season who is an 'underperforming' or 'undergood' commodity? Okay, if you say so...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 28, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

an inside pocket collapsing pass rushing specialist would nice..... I would see if Rod Coleman has anything left.....course thats just me..... not sayin....

Posted by: Oldschool | February 28, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

AMMTS, the first guy they interviewed, Jim Schwartz, was a Moneyball guy, as is the new "Offensive Assistant" they hired, Chris Meidt.

Posted by: dcsween | February 28, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

What do you think?

Posted by: TheCrickets007 | February 28, 2008 06:33 AM

Crickets,

Thanks for the research and a factual refutation of 0-16's "let's cut the entire team and sign the 2007 Pro Bowl roster" theory.

0-16 also espousing that one squeeze really hard when pinching a load. It's possible you'll really crap diamonds.

Cheers,

Adam

Posted by: argh | February 28, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

"... It's possible you'll really crap diamonds."

Posted by: argh | February 28, 2008 05:33 PM

Now I understand where your blogname comes from.

Posted by: dcsween | February 28, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

AMTTS,

We need more Lust for Mayhem.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | February 28, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

yes 'sween, it's a trademarked part of my "squeeze hard and you'll crap diamonds" investment system. For only $49.99 I teach you how to turn waste into treasure.

Have you seen my late night infomercial; it's can't miss TV

Adam

Posted by: argh | February 28, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/don_banks/02/28/notebook/

According to a league source, Minnesota is offering Houston a third-round 2008 draft pick in exchange for backup Sage Rosenfels, who went 4-1 last season in place of injured Texans starter Matt Schaub. Houston, which finished a franchise-best 8-8 last season, is said to be seeking a second-round pick in exchange for Rosenfels, who is not a free agent.

And in Washington, the Redskins' efforts to retain free-agent-to-be Todd Collins included new head coach Jim Zorn on Thursday flying to Boston on owner Daniel Snyder's private jet to meet for the first time with Collins, who lives in North Quincy, Mass. Washington is believed to have already made at least one contract offer to Collins, who went 3-0 as a starter in the regular season for the Redskins, and won a fourth game in relief of the injured Jason Campbell. Washington made the playoffs as an NFC wild card entry on the strength of that four-game December winning streak.

Posted by: kerzon417 | February 28, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

More from the link above:

When free agency opens at 12:01 a.m. Friday, Collins is expected to receive interest from several teams. Speculation has centered on teams such as St. Louis, where former Redskins offensive coordinator Al Saunders is now in the same position with the Rams, Jacksonville, and possibly Miami and Atlanta. The Rams are expected to release backup Gus Frerotte to clear both salary cap space and a path for Collins to back up starter Marc Bulger.

The Dolphins and Falcons are teams that might draft first-round quarterbacks and could be interested in Collins as a veteran who could bridge the gap between 2008 and whenever the young quarterback is deemed ready to start. In addition, the Super Bowl champion New York Giants are another team known to be in the market for a more experienced backup, behind Super Bowl MVP Eli Manning.

Washington wants to retain Collins, 36, but Zorn made it clear at last week's NFL scouting combine that he would return only as Campbell's backup, and not be allowed to compete with the fourth-year veteran and 2005 first-round pick for the Redskins starting job.

Campbell is thought to be in line to receive a contract in the range of $2 million-$3 million per year for two or three seasons. In his four regular season games last season, Collins threw for five touchdowns, no interceptions, for 888 yards and a sterling 106.4 quarterback rating. He completed 63.8 percent of his passes.

Posted by: kerzon417 | February 28, 2008 5:46 PM | Report abuse

According to a league source, Minnesota is offering Houston a third-round 2008 draft pick in exchange for backup Sage Rosenfels, who went 4-1 last season in place of injured Texans starter Matt Schaub. Houston, which finished a franchise-best 8-8 last season, is said to be seeking a second-round pick in exchange for Rosenfels, who is not a free agent.

Posted by: kerzon417 | February 28, 2008 05:45 PM

That seems very high for Sage Rosenfels, I mean the guys got maybe 2 years left.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 28, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Quarterbacks last forever, especially career backups. Sage is only 30.

Posted by: tafka | February 28, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the research and a factual refutation of 0-16's "let's cut the entire team and sign the 2007 Pro Bowl roster" theory.

0-16 also espousing that one squeeze really hard when pinching a load. It's possible you'll really crap diamonds.
Posted by: argh | February 28, 2008 05:33 PM

Yeah let's cut the entire team. They suck. And you suck too.

Posted by: redskins0and16 | February 28, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

So how much cap space is needed to sign the players you draft?

Posted by: _Stumped_ | February 28, 2008 04:23 PM

The NFL uses a complex formula to determine each team's draft allocation pool. The amount is affected by number of picks, draft position, etc. The Redskins rookie cap amount should be $5-6 million this year.

Posted by: tafka | February 28, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

http://www.vertgame.com/rookie_pool.html

This is a partial explanation of the rookie pool from 2007.

Posted by: tafka | February 28, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: tafka | February 28, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/profile.php?pyid=15119

Redskins fans should be screaming for this guy.

Posted by: tafka | February 28, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

I'm now a big fan of Matt Venzke. "Free beer for life." You lucky son of a....

Posted by: 4-12 | February 28, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: 4-12 | February 28, 2008 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Just hook it to my vein!!

Posted by: kost52 | February 28, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

ahhh there's the jibba jabba i love so much

Posted by: Dorf | February 28, 2008 6:54 PM | Report abuse

It's such a shame when someone like Isaac Bruce gets cut from the team they've played their entire career for.

Posted by: kost52 | February 28, 2008 6:54 PM | Report abuse

I have a question.

Over here when players are signing contracts, sometimes a team will make an exception in the contract, saying the team gives permission for the player to make money in the media (for instance they'll write a weekly column in the local paper). This allows the player to earn more money, but yet doesn't count against the cap for the team.

Is that sort of thing allowed over there? I haven't seen it?

Posted by: kost52 | February 28, 2008 7:08 PM | Report abuse

Andre Davis agreed to a four-year, $16 million deal that included $8 million in guarantees to re-up with the Texans. WOW! DJ Hackett and Jerry Porter will be near 10 million in guarantees.

Posted by: marlonjohn | February 28, 2008 7:14 PM | Report abuse

I heard Vinny on the JohnRiggins show. It sounds like he feels the value at the 21st pick is OL or DL.

Posted by: marlonjohn | February 28, 2008 7:17 PM | Report abuse

Kost,

This may not be quite what you were thinking of, but the good players endorse products. Peyton Manning is all over TV in the fall and during the playoffs. I am sure some players make more from endorsements than from the football contract.

Posted by: Markin21132 | February 28, 2008 7:34 PM | Report abuse

Kost,

This may not be quite what you were thinking of, but the good players endorse products. Peyton Manning is all over TV in the fall and during the playoffs. I am sure some players make more from endorsements than from the football contract.

Posted by: Markin21132 | February 28, 2008 7:34 PM | Report abuse

My first double.

Posted by: Markin21132 | February 28, 2008 7:38 PM | Report abuse

kost -- nothing in the typical Pro contract allows the team to arrange that type of deal (if the skins owned a radio station and paid Clinton $1.5M for his hour-long "I mean, we just gotta play ball" sessions, that would be a real big problem), and many contracts require that the player be available for "4 weekly conference calls, 6 team community events, and a partridge in a pear tree".
But nothing prevents the player from doing a side deal with some other company... for example, a mythical company named "Eastern Motors" might hire a set of Da Boyz to announce that "your job's your credit". Or an offensive lineman might write for ESPN.com if he has a career-threatening neck injury.
Such as.

Posted by: daggar | February 28, 2008 7:40 PM | Report abuse

mark from the future, I thought loseable type and double posts would have been abolished by your time.

My hope in the future is waning.

Posted by: Dorf | February 28, 2008 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Markin21132 -

Thanks, the reason I asked is because I've noticed that Ross Tucker has been writing for SI for the past month or so, yet he's still listed on our roster. I thought it strange that he was the only 'active' player I've seen who writes.

Posted by: kost52 | February 28, 2008 7:44 PM | Report abuse

For only $49.99 I teach you how to turn waste into treasure.

Posted by: argh | February 28, 2008 05:40 PM

And old Yorkshire saying "where there's muck, there's brass" (money)

Posted by: Redcoat | February 28, 2008 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Random question: How can it be "the happiest place on earth" with no free internet access?

Posted by: daggar | February 28, 2008 8:26 PM | Report abuse

I heard Vinny on the JohnRiggins show. It sounds like he feels the value at the 21st pick is OL or DL.

Posted by: marlonjohn | February 28, 2008 07:17 PM


Methinks Vinny is onto something. Now he just has to pick the right guy.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | February 28, 2008 8:32 PM | Report abuse

beep...beep...

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 28, 2008 8:54 PM | Report abuse

"... Collins threw for five touchdowns, no interceptions, for 888 yards and a sterling 106.4 quarterback rating. He completed 63.8 percent of his passes."

Posted by: kerzon417 | February 28, 2008 05:46 PM

Not surprising since collins is the best QB on the roster notwithstanding Z-man's protestations to the contrary. Like I said, with campbell, look for a 7-9 season (at best) in 2008.

Posted by: bestmick1 | February 28, 2008 11:30 PM | Report abuse

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