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Samuels Still Hurting

Pro Bowl left tackle Chris Samuels continued to experience knee pain during practice today and could sit out against Pittsburgh at FedEx Field.

"Pretty much, I'm questionable" to play against the Steelers, Samuels said. "I'll go out, warm up and see how I feel, but I don't know. It's kind of an aggravating pain in there. I'm just trying to play in this next game."

Samuels - the team's top offensive lineman - initially felt pain in his right knee last week during pregame warmups and sat out Washington's 25-17 victory over Detroit, ending his streak at 73 consecutive regular season starts. An MRI exam Monday revealed no structural damage, a team spokesman said, but showed inflammation of the cartilage behind his knee.

"His knee is just aching," Coach Jim Zorn said. "Even today, he's out there and it was aching. He's trying to push through. We know what it is, it's not structural damage, and it's just pain tolerance."

Second-year tackle Stepon Heyer, who struggled in place of Samuels against the Lions, would start again if Samuels misses his second straight game. The Steelers have the NFL's top-ranked defense and are second in the league with 25 sacks.

Quarterback Jason Campbell has "confidence in Stephon, and we all know he's a young player who's working to get established in this league, but you definitely hope that Chris Samuels can be out there.

"We're facing one of the best pass rushes in all of football, they really do a great job of getting to the quarterback, and having Chris Samuels in the game would be big for us. We just have to hope his knee gets better."

By Emilio Garcia-Ruiz  |  November 1, 2008; 3:59 PM ET
 | Tags: Redskins lineman uncertain for Steelers  
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I hope Stephon Heyer is working his tail off in practice at left tackle this week.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | November 1, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

This game won't be won or lost at the left teackle position.

It will be a total line effort to get this win...........

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 1, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

PACKERS CUT KABEER GBAJA-BIAMILA
Posted by Michael David Smith on November 1, 2008, 1:00 p.m.
The Green Bay Packers have released defensive end Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila, the team announced today.

“We want to thank Kabeer for his contributions to the Green Bay Packers,” G.M. Ted Thompson said. “During his time here, he has been a big part of our organization and our community. We wish Kabeer and his family well.”

In a classy statement issued as he was cut, Gbaja-Biamila thanked the Packers and their fans.

“My nine years as a Green Bay Packer have been a blessing that is beyond words,” Gbaja-Biamila said. “I thank God for bringing me to this first-class organization and first-class community. During my time here, I’ve built relationships with a number of people in the Packer family. The front office executives, G.M.s, coaches, past and present players, the enormous support and administrative staff plus the greatest fans in football, all have helped make my time here truly special and I am thankful for that. It has been a very positive experience.”

Gbaja-Biamila was struggling through a difficult season in which he had started just one game and had 0.5 sacks. He is the franchise’s all-time sacks leader with 74.5.

The Packers also announced that they have activated defensive tackle Justin Harrell from the physically unable to perform list.

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 1, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Horrors!!! We need you Chris!!!

Posted by: Lisa_R | November 1, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

I just got this quote from 360

"It feels OK," Samuels said. "I just have to play with the pain. It's a Monday night game. I'm going to play."

play with pain - for what he's getting paid I expect it

Posted by: phatem | November 1, 2008 5:08 PM | Report abuse

whoever it is on here who sings the praises of Knowshon Moreno can pretty much sit down and shut up at this point. he can't run for anything and now just had a TD pass go right through his hands. it's almost halftime but that's a pretty poor game so far.

i'm sure he can light it up against Middle South Florida Community College but against the big boys of the SEC, he's nothing.

Can anyone say Trung Canidate?

Posted by: DreamOutLoud | November 1, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Without Moss and Samuels, it's going to be grimm.

Posted by: charley42 | November 1, 2008 5:17 PM | Report abuse

It's the mentally challenged kid who refers to himself as truth in the 3rd person. He'll still run his mouth about Georgia even if they lose.

Posted by: JasonLaTempleton | November 1, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

whoever it is on here who sings the praises of Knowshon Moreno can pretty much sit down and shut up at this point. he can't run for anything and now just had a TD pass go right through his hands.

Posted by: DreamOutLoud | November 1, 2008 5:12 PM |

The guy you're looking for calls himself The Truth, and nothing has ever sat him down or shut him up.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 1, 2008 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Without Moss, Springs, and Samuels our team (especially the backup players) will really have to step up Monday night to beat a tough, physical Steelers team. I hope I can stay awake to the end! I hate Monday night games. I rarely make it past halftime.

Posted by: captjim | November 1, 2008 6:00 PM | Report abuse

UGA getting spanked.....classic...I love it
!!!!

Samuels however....dam....ouch!

Posted by: chrislarry | November 1, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

I hope Samuels and Moss can go. If they can't, we're in trouble against this Steeler team.

If I'm the Skins, I make a run at KGB. The Giants have proven that you can never have too many pass rushers, and with JT struggling to stay healthy the Skins could use another capable body to throw at the QB. I'm pretty sure we could get him for something around the vet minimum. At that price, the man is a bargain.

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 1, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse

+++I'm surprised that Zorn is so straightforward about Santana's situation. He should lie a bit, like Obama.

Posted by: skinsin2008 |+++


Thanks for bringing up Politics, and in a typical Republican way--ignoring the important issues like the GOP-ruined economy, the war in Iraq, Global climate change, and the lies that have been part and parcel of Right Wing Politics since the gitgo.

Posted by: TheCork | November 1, 2008 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Without Moss and Samuels, it's going to be grimm.

Posted by: charley42 | November 1, 2008 5:17 PM

What? Russ Grimm is going to play? Well, he's not much older than Ray Brown and that worked out OK...

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 1, 2008 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Riggins just let Clinton Portis have it tonight on Redskins report. He was criticizing Clinton for the remarks earlier this year about "I wish I could run behind the best offensive line in the league."

Riggins thought it was not only unfair criticism of the O line, but also of Joe Bugel who had just lost his daughter. Riggins said "If I'm playing on that line, I'm thinking to myself, 'I wonder how much better we could do if we had the best back in the league running behind us.'"

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 1, 2008 7:18 PM | Report abuse

I understand what Riggo is saying, T_E. But CP knows his guys and if that was his way of firing them up, I think it worked. At least 2 of their lineman should be in the Pro Bowl and you could probably make a case for 4 guys to go. The Giants owned the line of scrimmage in Week 1 and the Skins haven't been beaten at the line on either side of the ball since. So I think CP gets the points on that one.

And what's Riggo bringing up old stuff for anyway? That was 2 months ago! Why doesn't he touch on Spygate while he's at it...

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 1, 2008 7:32 PM | Report abuse

I didn't hear the Riggo radio show interview you speak of - but Riggo was always real tight with the O line. He was an honorary "Hog" and hung out with all of those guys at the bars.

That comment surprised me also when CP made it - but, he has made a lot of comments and "appearances" that shocked me. Other than Dennis Rodman, how many sports stars dress up like that for interviews?

Posted by: captjim | November 1, 2008 7:39 PM | Report abuse

And in other news, the BCS Bowl Committee has announced the premiere matchup of the year.

The 2009 Pretenders' Bowl will feature the Buckeyes of Ohio State University battling the Bulldogs of the University of Georgia.

Best of luck to both teams! (Someone is bound to win, right?)

Posted by: allen_wrench | November 1, 2008 7:46 PM | Report abuse

Skins most irreplaceable guys on offense are Moss and Samuels. Heyer and Thrash are huge drop offs. I worry about Campbell's health without Samuels blocking.

Still, this is likely to be a defensive game and we'll be in it, even if these guys can not go.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 1, 2008 7:46 PM | Report abuse

Nothing but negativity from this little p****. Heyer gave up one sack, otherwise played a good game. He did not struggle. Samuels said that he just has a little pain and will play through it Monday. The tenor of this article is that Samuels won't play and Heyer is a stiff . Weasel.

Posted by: kcjdlj1 | November 1, 2008 7:52 PM | Report abuse

Skins most irreplaceable guys on offense are Moss and Samuels. Heyer and Thrash are huge drop offs. I worry about Campbell's health without Samuels blocking.

Still, this is likely to be a defensive game and we'll be in it, even if these guys can not go.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 1, 2008 7:46 PM | Report abuse


Wow..and JC and CP are easily replaced??

Posted by: cosomfla | November 1, 2008 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Boy those 2 being out would be a big obsatcle to overcome. At least 1 Georgia team played like they know how today, and it was the right one.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 1, 2008 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Wow..and JC and CP are easily replaced??

Posted by: cosomfla | November 1, 2008 7:53 PM

No, but they have capable veteran backups. Moss and Samuels are therefore more irreplaceable from the standpoint that you're putting in an undrafted 2nd year player and a veteran clearly at the end of his career in their stead.

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 1, 2008 8:12 PM | Report abuse

Well, we almost got away with one...

POPS POLAMALU WILL PLAY
Posted by Mike Florio on November 1, 2008, 7:45 p.m.
With the Friday arrival of Paisos Polamalu, who likely hurled himself head first down the birth canal with reckless abandon and a shock of hair already long enough to wipe his own rear end, his father will be able to show up for work on Monday night at FedEx Field in Maryland.

Troy Polamalu missed practice on Friday for the arrival of his son.

Running back Willie Parker also is expected to play in his first game since September 21. He has missed several weeks with a knee injury.

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 1, 2008 8:28 PM | Report abuse

Nothing but negativity from this little p****. Heyer gave up one sack, otherwise played a good game. He did not struggle. Samuels said that he just has a little pain and will play through it Monday. The tenor of this article is that Samuels won't play and Heyer is a stiff . Weasel.
Posted by: kcjdlj1 | November 1, 2008 7:52 PM | Report abuse


Heyer gave up 3 sacks 2 were FFs came off of guys getting bye him and to JC. I don't think that he will do that bad Monday, he is getting reps in this week and has more than 90 minutes warning that he will be on the field.

Posted by: alex35332 | November 1, 2008 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Heyer gave up a sack against the freaking Lions. There is no way he only gives up one sack against the Steelers. Chances are having Jansen playing LT and Heyer playing RT will help immensely. I'm sure the dropoff for Jansen switching sides is not as huge as for Heyer. JMO.

Posted by: JesusFreakKaren | November 1, 2008 8:37 PM | Report abuse

Karen,
I agree somewhat, but I worry that you take JJ away and we can't run to the Right, JJ and Randy give us a lot of power to run to at least 1 side.

Posted by: alex35332 | November 1, 2008 8:40 PM | Report abuse

Chances are having Jansen playing LT and Heyer playing RT will help immensely. I'm sure the dropoff for Jansen switching sides is not as huge as for Heyer. JMO.

Posted by: JesusFreakKaren | November 1, 2008 8:37 PM


Are you serious? This isn't Madden we're talking about--Jansen is a career RT, and to my knowledge has never played the left side. So you'd take your chances with that inexperience at LT over Heyer (who HAS played both sides) just because he had a bad game last week when he had to start after getting NO reps with the 1st team in practice all week? Seriously?

The best and ONLY course of action is playing Heyer at LT if Samuels can't go. Even if I thought Jansen could play the left side, you don't upset the chemistry of your line by making 2 changes when 1 will do.

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 1, 2008 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Actually, I take the first part of that back. Even on Madden you lose awareness points if you play a RT at LT! That is all.

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 1, 2008 8:49 PM | Report abuse

If the decision was made earlier in the week, I'd say I'm probably right. Now that Heyer has practiced over at LT, I sorta agree that moving him back to RT at this point wouldn't make much sense. It's just that he had a very bad game against the worst team in the league, and now we're playing the best defense. Let's just pray that he has learned to drop his butt and not play tall.

PS. I have no idea what awareness points are in madden, as I haven't played a football video game in 15 years or more.

Posted by: JesusFreakKaren | November 1, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse

Screw Thrash. I love the guy, but he's a 15 catches a year kind of guy now. He'll make 1 or 2 big plays on 3rd down all year. This game means nothing in the grand scheme of things. I'd rather lose this game w/ back ups then win this game and hurt our boys more than they were prior to the game. We need to come back healthy after the bye to "SWEEP" the Pokes. It's time for the ROOKIE D.T. to show us what he's got. REST SANTANA!!!!!

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | November 1, 2008 9:23 PM | Report abuse

I'd rather lose this game w/ back ups then win this game and hurt our boys more than they were prior to the game.

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | November 1, 2008 9:23 PM |

I've never really cared for this "play not to get hurt" approach. If the docs think it's okay to play, then play. If they think the risk is too great, then sit. But it seems like the docs should make the call, not one else.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 1, 2008 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Last?

Posted by: Club320 | November 1, 2008 11:10 PM | Report abuse

Wow..and JC and CP are easily replaced??

Posted by: cosomfla | November 1, 2008 7:53 PM

No, but they have capable veteran backups. Moss and Samuels are therefore more irreplaceable from the standpoint that you're putting in an undrafted 2nd year player and a veteran clearly at the end of his career in their stead.

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 1, 2008 8:12 PM | Report abuse


Okay, I agree those two would be tough to replace, but I also believe JC and CP are equally difficult to replace. Are Todd Collins and Shaun Alexander going to scare anyone? I think not. Also, Heyer has started for close to a season now and I believe we will see D Thomas have an opportunity to step up. Any way you look at it, it's going to be tough. But good teams find a way. My real feeling is that JC is the big ?. Is he capable of putting the team on his back and winning because of his skills, like some of the grets could? I'm really looking forward to seeing him in a position where he has to make plays when the other team is expecting it.

Posted by: cosomfla | November 1, 2008 11:44 PM | Report abuse

Wow--almost 5 hours between posts.

Posted by: NCICURN | November 2, 2008 4:32 AM | Report abuse

I guess it's actually closer to 6 hours with that "fall back" thing. Man, I've got to remember not to work these nights. 13 hour shift--hate it.

Posted by: NCICURN | November 2, 2008 4:34 AM | Report abuse

A couple of things:

Jansen is NOT a LEFT TACKLE, there is a reason he has played his entire career, college and the pros, on the right side. It's not even close, Jansen would get killed on the left side.

Heyer will be fine, his only real issue is purely one of technique, he needs to create the habit of playing lower, using his strength and power more.

Don't sell the Lions D-Line short, they had 8 sacks their previous two games, EIGHT SACKS. Minnesota and Houston were sacked more by the Lions than any other opponent this season. Ths Lions defensive woes are centered in the BACK seven, not there FRONT four.

The big worry about Heyer against Pittsburgh would be the experience factor. Pittsburgh does such an outstanding job of confusing things in pass protection, that Samuels' experience would be a huge help within the O-Line in general.

They'll be fine people. The Skins are largely being counted out of this game. The Skins know it and Zorn has something to prove. Campbell hasn't proven anything yet and he's know that too, this game would go a long way towards truly being considered one of the "elite" quarterbacks in the NFL.

The key will be JC beating the Steelers' blitz, the Lions played eight in the box virtually the entire game, and JC played it well. He will need to take advantage of the opportunities that WILL be there. Pittsburgh's aggressiveness leaves areas open to be exploited, it will be up to JC to get it done.

Posted by: craig2 | November 2, 2008 6:02 AM | Report abuse

For those that think I disagree with JLC because he points out thing that the team doesn't do well. I thought Reid article today was very good. Points out the rookies need to step up. However, it not with the hate that JLC seems to put in his stories.

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | November 2, 2008 7:17 AM | Report abuse

Excellent point JM, I agree totally, it's one thing to look at the team with a "CRITICAL" eye, it's another thing entirely to look at the team with a "NEGATIVE" eye.

Of course the Skins have weaknesses that they need to work towards correcting, what team doesn't? But JLC crosses the line between negativity and criticism in most of his writing, and that's what I don't like about his work.

Posted by: craig2 | November 2, 2008 7:23 AM | Report abuse

No doubt craig2. You can go back to last year I was one of the people that supported JLC big time. But I just think he has cross the line and I not going to support someone I feel is wrong because I like them as a person. As a person I like JLC and would never call for him to lose his job or attack him as a person. That is the one thing I don't like people doing. Attacking him as a person.

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | November 2, 2008 7:30 AM | Report abuse

He did a pretty good job with this piece as well:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/31/AR2008103103275_2.html?tid=informbox&sid=ST2008103103570&s_pos=


In a few spots though, he took his jabs, and that's what get's me. It just isn't necessary.

I don't know the guy personally, so I can only go by how I know him from his writing, and he comes across as petty, and hateful, so I don't like him, the only "JLC" I know.

I don't get into "name-calling" in any circumstances, "your an idiot" isn't what I mean either, and is NEVER productive.

But this blog is just about the best "interactive" REDSKINS source of information available, so I keep coming back.

Posted by: craig2 | November 2, 2008 7:44 AM | Report abuse

Global climate change,

Wow! It's been unseasonably cool here in Myrtle Beach, so much for global warming.

Posted by: lsskinsfan | November 2, 2008 9:08 AM | Report abuse

Switching Jon Jansen to LT is one of the dumber ideas I have read on here in some time. Hyere has played LT in the past and they had a full week to game plan with him in there. He will get help from RB's and TE's as needed. Jansen has never played there so you weaken 2 positions by moving him. Come on now people.

Posted by: JasonLaTempleton | November 2, 2008 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Go DAWGS!!!

Posted by: SeanTizzy2DaHizzy | November 2, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Seems that most everybody predicts a 'Skins loss tomorrow night. I agree that I haven't seen much in the last three weeks to give me hope, but still...........

Redskins 24
Steelers 17

Posted by: Schroeder12 | November 2, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Just watched a scroll on nfln and they have moss, samuels and LARON LANDRY listed as Q??? did I read that wrong? Btw steelers are the most overrated team in the NFL. Well maybe not the most cuz mannings are in the NFL still...but they are overrated.

Posted by: dealer1 | November 2, 2008 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Keyshawn Johnson just called Santana Moss the "scariest player in the league" in terms of seeing them on the field.

I don't know what you guys have been reading, but the overwhelming majority of analysts have picked the Redskins to win this game against the Steelers. This is not a "everybody is overlooking us" type of deal. This is the game where the skins have to prove they can play up to expectations.

Posted by: spizzle | November 2, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

You guys are silly. Thrash is a tough guy. He blocks. He returns punts, he catches passes. Heyer is well liked by the veterans and is a fast learner. Think about it. This guy already knows how to play almost every position on the line except for center. He replace Jansen, he has in the past replaced Samuels. Might as well call him a starter. Used to have one guy like that back in Hogs 1.

The thing is about Devin. He needs to step up and use his speed for the long balls. They were expecting to get that from Kelly. He is just about to go on injured reserve and have knee surgery.

On defense injuries have hurt far more. Its why there is no pass rush this year. Washington is not the same. Taylor has the hip. Cornelius is not the same. Andre is the only pass rusher short of the backups and blitzing is not something they can do because they would not risk making the secondary vulnerable.

Worry more about the defense not Heyer.

Posted by: periculum | November 2, 2008 10:13 PM | Report abuse

This game is going to be very, very close. Its going to be hard to call. Fans from Pittsburgh will likely be in attendance negating the home field advantage to some extent. I wouldn't call it.

Posted by: periculum | November 2, 2008 10:16 PM | Report abuse

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