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Santana Moss: Devin Thomas can use fresh start

Santana Moss, the Redskins top wide receiver, said he was surprised that wideout Devin Thomas, the team's first pick in the 2008 draft, was released, but Moss figured Thomas's situation had deteriorated for some time.

Thomas, who the Carolina Panthers claimed off waivers Monday, was too talented to be buried on the team's depth chart, Moss said, and it was clear that the third-year player was not in a good situation with Coach Mike Shanahan.

"I'm surprised. I was surprised a little bit," Moss said in a conference call with reporters. "But, then again, you never know, man. I just feel like where Devin stood on this team...he wasn't really playing receiver, and then he was playing a lot of special teams.

"With a guy like that, that's so talented, you know if he's not playing receiver, it's something that he's done or something that's not right. Everything happens for a reason. This situation might better Devin. He gets a chance to go somewhere else, start off fresh and be that guy, because he can be that guy... But he had got himself into a situation that he was in. It wasn't a place for him to be able to climb out of."

As the veteran leader of the team's wideouts, Moss said he often counseled Thomas and Malcolm Kelly, also a member of the 2008 draft class. Thomas also is a model and actor, and Moss encouraged him to remained focused on football.

"Me and Devin and Malcolm, all those guys, we talk a lot," Moss said. "You only can talk. That's all you can do. You're grown men. You can't tell them how to do it or show them how to do it. All you can is let them know some of the things to do.

"I feel like he listened to me and he heard me out...At the end of the day, he's going to make his own decisions. You feel me?"

By Jason Reid  | October 11, 2010; 5:48 PM ET
Categories:  Devin Thomas, Santana Moss  
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Comments

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"This profession we're in is not based on talent, it's based on people working extremely hard."

Well said. If that doesn't sum up why DT is no longer a Redskin, I don't know what does.

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 11, 2010 5:22 PM |

So how does one splain pre-2010 Clintonic, Socrates?

Posted by: PsyOps | October 11, 2010 6:06 PM | Report abuse

I'm glad the DT landed on his feet. The Panthers certainly don't have an issue with a flashy WR.

Posted by: TWISI | October 11, 2010 6:15 PM | Report abuse

I think we've talked about this cat more than enough. Let's talk aboout beating the dolts.

Posted by: wireman65 | October 11, 2010 6:20 PM | Report abuse

Even after losing his job, he hasn't pouted, been a distraction, or called into the Lavar and fat d0uche show.

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 11, 2010 6:06 PM |

i.e., he ain't no Jon Jansen.

Posted by: PsyOps | October 11, 2010 6:20 PM | Report abuse

The Panthers issues are so long that a "flashy WR" is so far down on the list it doesn't matter.

Wake me when DT helps lead the Panthers to the Super Bowl and/or becomes the next Jerry Rice.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 11, 2010 6:22 PM | Report abuse

If I was Dockery, I wouldn't be too upset about losing my job to Lichtensteiger. Another performance or two like yesterday's, and Dock will be back in the starting lineup before he knows it.

Posted by: rufus_t_firefly | October 11, 2010 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Whatever.

Moving on...

Posted by: edvar | October 11, 2010 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Yeah that Lichtensteiger guy was terrible yesterday.

He was more like Poopensteiger.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 11, 2010 6:27 PM | Report abuse

Just watched a replay of Landry's interception. That was clearly caused by Jarmon's hit as another poster pointed out earlier. That hit also knocked out the first GB quarterback since.......who?? Bart Star? I was asking that before the game yesterday, those guys were clearly due to have a Q back knocked out of the game. This defense is kicking azz and putting names on the injured list. I'm digging it.

Posted by: wireman65 | October 11, 2010 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone else seen the crap that LaVar posted on DT? That dude is such an idiot blowhard...for every Brandon Lloyd the Skins let go, there's a Michael Westbrook, Rod Gardner, and Taylor Jacobs. Stop crying over that stupid contract YOUR AGENTS screwed up and go cover another team if you hate them so much. I hear Penn State could use a blogger with a vendetta...asshat...

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 11, 2010 6:32 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: rufus_t_firefly | October 11, 2010 6:23 PM |

Fly dude - Packer NT BJ Raji opened up big holes for their D to pour in on McN. He were harrassed all game long- or is it hurryassed?

Posted by: PsyOps | October 11, 2010 6:33 PM | Report abuse

I'm really skeptical of the decision to release DT for the reasons given by Shanahan. If professionalism is the problem, then we could list a lot of other players on this team who would be released. I see chest thumping happening all the time on this team and nothing seems to be done to stop it.
I believe there are some young players like Thomas who do need more patience than others especially on a team who has such little talent at WR. I have a feeling Thomas is really going to take off in Carolina. It's not Thomas' fault he was taken in the 2nd round. Does he need to grow up? Sure but I think we forget sometimes that some of these guys are in their early to mid 20's and it takes some longer to mature. It would be one thing if we had a lot talent at the position but I don't see how Galloway and Williams are better choices than Thomas right now.
One thing that was great about Joe Gibbs was his ability to blend the cast of characters and get the best out of them.

Posted by: charlottechris1 | October 11, 2010 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Just watched a replay of Landry's interception. That was clearly caused by Jarmon's hit as another poster pointed out earlier.

Posted by: wireman65 | October 11, 2010 6:31 PM |

Glad to see something out of 3rd round pick. Hadn't been hearing much about him. Hope he can keep it up.

Posted by: PsyOps | October 11, 2010 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: PsyOps | October 11, 2010 6:40 PM

Yup, and a supplemental pick at that. Bug Eyes most have been drunk that night. Glad to have JJ on the team and Vinnie gone.

Posted by: wireman65 | October 11, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone else seen the crap that LaVar posted on DT? That dude is such an idiot blowhard...for every Brandon Lloyd the Skins let go, there's a Michael Westbrook, Rod Gardner, and Taylor Jacobs. Stop crying over that stupid contract YOUR AGENTS screwed up and go cover another team if you hate them so much. I hear Penn State could use a blogger with a vendetta...asshat...

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 11, 2010 6:32 PM

The Dude Abides..

His radio show is worse. The reason Lavar wants to hold a candle light vigil for DT being cut is that this whole situation hits so close to home.

Except DT doesn't have half the talent that Lavar wasted.

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 11, 2010 6:50 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: PsyOps | October 11, 2010 6:40 PM

Yup, and a supplemental pick at that. Bug Eyes must have been drunk that night. Glad to have JJ on the team and Vinnie gone.

Posted by: wireman65 | October 11, 2010 6:50 PM | Report abuse

"I think we've talked about this cat more than enough. Let's talk aboout beating the dolts."

Posted by: wireman65 | October 11, 2010 6:20 PM

Co-sign. Seems we spend an inordinate amount of time discussing who should be the 53rd player on the roster.

Posted by: bones21 | October 11, 2010 6:53 PM | Report abuse

It's about competition just ask Bidwell, Gano, Larry Johnson, Willie Parker, Trent Williams

We are 1 game better than we were last year at this time.

And , Zorn started 6-2

Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 11, 2010 6:55 PM | Report abuse

What are the chances that "Clausen to Thomas" is one day going to be as oft-stated as "Young to Rice." ????

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | October 11, 2010 6:56 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: charlottechris1 | October 11, 2010 6:39 PM

MS told DT that it was a numbers game and he was next up (meaning he was the 53rd guy) and they needed a RB. He said if he cleared waviers he might bring him back but also told DT that a team would probably claim him.

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 11, 2010 6:57 PM | Report abuse

Lichtensteiger?
Really?
Jailbreak!

Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 11, 2010 6:58 PM | Report abuse

If we still had Devin Thomas we would've won 78-13 yesterday.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 11, 2010 6:58 PM | Report abuse

We are 1 game better than we were last year at this time.

And , Zorn started 6-2

Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 11, 2010 6:55 PM

You'd have to be a moron to think this team is not a huge upgrade from last year. But.......

Posted by: wireman65 | October 11, 2010 6:59 PM | Report abuse

I see chest thumping happening all the time on this team and nothing seems to be done to stop it.

Posted by: charlottechris1 | October 11, 2010 6:39 PM


I think you miss the major point here, so I'll break down to the simplest degree I know how:

Anthony Armstrong--Chest thumping after momentum shifting touchdowns in actual games

Devin Thomas--Chest thumping after beating Byron Westbrook on an 8 yard slant route short of the first down in practice

I'm pretty sure coaches can live with chest thumping when the guys doing the thumping are making plays. If they're buried at the end of the bench and can't beat out 84 year-old Joey Galloway for a starting spot, I can see how that's problematic.

Bottom line, the guy doesn't act like a pro. And you can't challenge that since you're not in the building. We can nitpick Shanahan's decision to the Nth degree but DT will still be gone. Time will tell if it was the right call, but for now let's DEAL WITH GUYS THAT ARE STILL ON THE TEAM.

I swear this blog seems more preoccupied with the players that LEAVE the team than the ones who stick around and contribute...I half expect to see an update on Rock Cartwright and Jason Campbell's big day out in Oakland yesterday...UFB...

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 11, 2010 7:01 PM | Report abuse

What are the chances that "Clausen to Thomas" is one day going to be as oft-stated as "Young to Rice." ????

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | October 11, 2010 6:56 PM


Almost zero.

Posted by: wireman65 | October 11, 2010 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Just heard Devin on the Lavar show. I'm sure it'll be up in their audio vault soon, but I wanted to share the things Devin said. First, dude is a really good guy. Like I said, I wish him the best. LaVar basically gave Devin the floor to dump on Shanny, but Devin was all complimentary about MS and the direction he's taking the team. He said basically he's been in the doghouse for his off field interests (modeling, music video) during this offseason. I'm guessing Devin missed some offseason work to pursue those interest. Anyways, Devin said he'd heed the advise the Shanny gave him this past Thursday. Also, Shanny said if Devin had cleared waivers the team was going to bring him back (not sure how true that was because Devin can't on PS). Finally Devin said that twitter pic Banks took of him , Devin was in between meetings. In fact Devin said Banks was reprimanded by MS and made to apologize to the team, because the pics was "a no no" and reflected poorly on the team.

Posted by: TWISI | October 11, 2010 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Here is a list of top D-tackles of 2011 draft:

1. Marvin Austin, North Carolina

2. Lawrence Marsh, Florida

3. Allen Bailey, Miami

4. Jerrell Powe, Ole Miss

5. Stephen Paea, Oregon State

6. Jared Crick, Nebraska

7. Adrian Taylor, Oklahoma

8. Jarvis Jenkins, Clemson

9. Jurrell Casey, USC

10. Kendrick Ellis, Hampton

Who would you like to see play NT?

Posted by: skinswillwin | October 11, 2010 7:10 PM | Report abuse

Nice post TWISI.

Again, if DT was beating DBs in practice and talking smack about it then obviously he was running the right routes so lets cut the crap about him not being smart enough to learn this offense.

Obviously, he's not Shanny's kind of WR so let's leave it at that. When Thomas lands in the right situation I believe he has the ability to be a bell cow WR. In the NFL haters...lol.

Posted by: elfreako | October 11, 2010 7:11 PM | Report abuse

We are 1 game better than we were last year at this time.

And , Zorn started 6-2

Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 11, 2010 6:55 PM

You'd have to be a moron to think this team is not a huge upgrade from last year. But.......

Posted by: wireman65 | October 11, 2010 6:59 PM | Report abuse

no, you'd have to be a moron to assume they are without playing the games. But.......

Is our o line significantly better? Are our wrs? Rbs? Defense? Bidwell? Talk about going around your buttocks to get to your elbow.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 11, 2010 7:12 PM | Report abuse

His radio show is worse. The reason Lavar wants to hold a candle light vigil for DT being cut is that this whole situation hits so close to home.

Except DT doesn't have half the talent that Lavar wasted.

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 11, 2010 6:50 PM


100% agree...I haven't met anyone who likes that show. Only a glutton for punishment or a fan of Gilbert Godfried (which I guess is kinda the same thing) could possibly see any value in listening to LaVar and Dukes just yell at each other and act bitter for a couple hours.

Sounds to me like whatever side stands in opposition to the organization will get LaVar's full support. That, by definition, is BIASED...

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 11, 2010 7:12 PM | Report abuse

I believe he has the ability to be a bell cow WR.

Posted by: elfreako | October 11, 2010 7:11 PM |

Dude - the Cows don't need no WRs. They gots Dez, Miles and Roy. That enough.

Posted by: PsyOps | October 11, 2010 7:14 PM | Report abuse

You'd have to be a moron to think this team is not a huge upgrade from last year. But.......

Posted by: wireman65 | October 11, 2010 6:59 PM | Report abuse

no, you'd have to be a moron to assume they are without playing the games. But.......

Is our o line significantly better? Are our wrs? Rbs? Defense? Bidwell? Talk about going around your buttocks to get to your elbow.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 11, 2010 7:12 PM


I think I can help sort out this Pam/Pan dilemma...

You'd have to be an idiot to come to a conclusion for the 2010 season when only 5 GAMES HAVE BEEN PLAYED.

So wireman is right that through 5 games, despite having a similar record, we certainly look a lot better as a team and have been better opponents than the ones we faced last year.

And pabrian is right (ugh...my skin just crawled just typing that) that the product isn't finished yet and there's still a lot to be proven.

Let's just ride the wave and feel good that we took out back-to-back opponents that just happened to be playoff teams a year ago--and hope that the team builds on this success going forward.

Unless, of course, pabrian is idiot hater we all suspect him to be...

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 11, 2010 7:18 PM | Report abuse

Why does Shanahan have to create so much drama with players, particularly talented players? The genius of Gibbs was he could handle all sorts of players. Guys he loved,like Greene, and guys who made him crazy, like Gary Clark. Shanahan is the kind of coach who would cut Clark and Dexter Manley for not...whatever, who knows what his issue is.

What's even worse is he clearly plays favorites, for example, duds like this Lichtensteiger and grandpa Galloway. Torain, ok, he can play, but Lichtensteiger sucks and everyone knows it. This is how you get locker room issues, playing inferior players because they're you're favorites. If I was McNabb, I'd be interviewing realtors in minneapolis.

Posted by: Iamhumongous | October 11, 2010 7:21 PM | Report abuse

That should read "have SEEN better opponents"...

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 11, 2010 7:23 PM | Report abuse

TWISI-

I heard the same interview and it seemed to me that DT still doesn't get it. Although he didn't take any shots at MS or the organization that wasted a 2nd RD pick on him, he did sound clueless when asked about him not being a professional. He said he thought that MS didn't like his modeling and acting ventures and mentioned nothing about his lack of work ethic, playbook knowledge, or football acumen.

Bottomline. He was the 53rd man on the roster and we needed a RB.

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 11, 2010 7:23 PM | Report abuse

That should read "have SEEN better opponents"...

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 11, 2010 7:24 PM | Report abuse

Who would you like to see play NT?

Posted by: skinswillwin | October 11, 2010 7:10 PM

Jerrell Powe, Ole Miss

He's a NT. Ole Miss runs a 3-4 and he's a Vince WIlfork clone. I posted about this dude 2 or 3 weeks ago. He could be available late 1st to mid 2nd.

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 11, 2010 7:28 PM | Report abuse

What a coincidence, Diesel. The Skins will be exercising their first pick right around then... the 32nd pick in the draft, actually.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | October 11, 2010 7:32 PM | Report abuse

diesel44

Jerrell Powe, Ole Miss


I'll co-sign after watching BJ Raji yesterday.

In fact, Raji and the young'n Neal rare a couple of keepers.

The thing that influences what we do about the nose tackle issue is AH: will he play like a monstah or be monstrously bad?

But if AH is moved for picks, a top flight NT in return will be welcomed.

As will AH this upcoming Sunday nite.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 11, 2010 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 11, 2010 7:18 PM

Yup, nuff said.

Posted by: wireman65 | October 11, 2010 7:37 PM | Report abuse

"He's a one-dimensional receiver"

By extension, overrated.

Who is being discussed?:

a. Devin Thomas

b. Reggie Wayne

c. Randy Moss

d. Larry Fitzgerald

e. Calvin Johnson


Randy Moss, obviously.

He won't help Minn as much as a healthy SRice will.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 11, 2010 7:39 PM | Report abuse

What a coincidence, Diesel. The Skins will be exercising their first pick right around then... the 32nd pick in the draft, actually.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | October 11, 2010 7:32 PM

I'm currently looking for lodging in the Dallas area for the 1st weekend in February.

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 11, 2010 7:42 PM | Report abuse

"I think we've talked about this cat more than enough. Let's talk aboout beating the dolts."

Posted by: wireman65 | October 11, 2010 6:20 PM

Co-sign. Seems we spend an inordinate amount of time discussing who should be the 53rd player on the roster.

Posted by: bones21 | October 11, 2010 6:53 PM

WHAT???? Beating the crrap out of each other over the 53rd person on the roster is the is the main reason for this blog in the first place. Some days, it feels like its the ONLY reason.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | October 11, 2010 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Zeke, a secondary reason for the blog would be trash talking about fantasy F-ball.

Speaking of which, you can't spell "Futaleafu Swimmers" without F-U twice. Thanks for bringing my modest winning streak/season turnaround to a screeching halt.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | October 11, 2010 7:50 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 11, 2010 7:28 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 11, 2010 7:35 PM | Report abuse

After seeing Raji play, he was the anchor on that D...Something we need.

Posted by: skinswillwin | October 11, 2010 7:56 PM | Report abuse

I agree 100% with Santana: Thomas is way too talented to not be playing WR in this league.

Posted by: Barno1 | October 11, 2010 8:01 PM | Report abuse

Another week, another quarterback.

Let's review:

Tony Romo--win

Matt Schaub--loss

Sam Bradford--loss

Mike Vick--win

Aaron Rodgers--win

And so now, Peyton Manning comes into town.

How do you play when 'God' is under center?

--pressure in his face

--jam his receivers

--mix coverages

--blitz early, but not often

--shutdown Addai on draws and screens

.....and above all, keep things close.

You might have to win ugly again.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 11, 2010 8:02 PM | Report abuse

I'm currently looking for lodging in the Dallas area for the 1st weekend in February.

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 11, 2010 7:42 PM

It's a slow real estate market. Wade Phillips's current residence may still be available.

Posted by: SMACK1 | October 11, 2010 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone else seen the crap that LaVar posted on DT? That dude is such an idiot blowhard...for every Brandon Lloyd the Skins let go, there's a Michael Westbrook, Rod Gardner, and Taylor Jacobs. Stop crying over that stupid contract YOUR AGENTS screwed up and go cover another team if you hate them so much. I hear Penn State could use a blogger with a vendetta...asshat...

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 11, 2010 6:32 PM

Ok, and which NFL team did you play for again? Lavar was 100% right. His sentiment has been echoed by both Santana Moss and John Riggins; three great nfl players that have demonstrated dominance during their respective careers. Do you have a problem with their perspective on the situation? Plain and simple, he never got a chance on the field with this new "regime"; as opposed to "coaching staff". Also, remind me of the major media company that you write for. Lavar actually provides the great insight into the organization, team, and the challenges that they face. This is given from the perspective of a former STANDOUT NFL player that was "on the field" and in the heat of battle eveery sunday for years. As opposed to some desk jockey that has never felt smash mouth football in the NFL East. The same goes for Santana and Riggins; real PLAYERS unique insights. Why can't you face the probability, the chance, that there was an issue here unrelated to ability or "practice performance"? And the idea that this move may have been a mistake. I guess Shanny would cut Witten for celebrating in the end zone. Or wait, maybe he will cut our best defensive player, since Sean Taylor, for flexing his muscles after a play. Imagine what he might do to Ray Lewis for celebrations? Relax on the name calling, if anything it diminishes your point.........

Posted by: adjustments_Redskins | October 11, 2010 8:08 PM | Report abuse

Zeke, a secondary reason for the blog would be trash talking about fantasy F-ball.

Speaking of which, you can't spell "Futaleafu Swimmers" without F-U twice. Thanks for bringing my modest winning streak/season turnaround to a screeching halt.

Posted by: NateinthePDX

It ain't over ... you got 2 going on Monday night. As for the Futaleufu, it has its own special way of saying F U.

http://www.pbase.com/faerie_39/image/101671809

Posted by: zcezcest1 | October 11, 2010 8:27 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: adjustments_Redskins | October 11, 2010 8:08 PM

Complete swing and a miss. IF DT was any of those players he would not only be on the roster but a welcome addition. He was the 53rd man on the roster and was cut to add a RB.

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 11, 2010 8:32 PM | Report abuse

Although Vinnie mostly sucked, he deserves kudos for selecting Orakpo and Jarmon

Posted by: PriorKnowledge | October 11, 2010 8:36 PM | Report abuse

Hopefully the people dense enough to have believed Thomas couldnt learn plays and was getting outplayed by Roydell and Galloway are reading what actually went down and getting a better understanding of what really goes on behind the scenes.


Posted by: divi3 | October 11, 2010 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Can't we put the Devin Thomas drama to rest? Whatever you think of Shanny, it's up to him to build the team he wants. It's his call, and coaches like certain players and don't like others. If Shanny makes the wrong moves, he'll pay the price. Do you think he wants to lose games? Do you think he'd drop anyone he thought would make a difference?
Why waste so much time on Thomas?
This team has heart and is on the upswing. As Redskins fans, we should enjoy each and every win and be happy all week. I feel great. Savor the victories, people.

Posted by: gaspeny | October 11, 2010 8:43 PM | Report abuse

Top center prospects for the 2011 draft:

1. Stefen Wisiniewski, C Penn State

2. Kristofer O’Dowd, C USC

3. Michael Brewster, Ohio State

4. Colin Baxter, Arizona

5. Dan Wegner, Notre Dame

6. Ben Jones, Georgia

7. Ryan McMahon, Florida State

8. Zane Taylor, Utah

9. Ben Bojicic, Bowling Green

10. Jake Kirkpatrick, TCU

Who would you pick?

We know skins have limited picks but NT, C and Guard seem like the most needed.

Just tryin to get off the DT topic...

Posted by: skinswillwin | October 11, 2010 8:46 PM | Report abuse

In my opinion a player should be judged by his on field ability. DT never got the chance to play WR in a regular season game.(the one time he lined up at WR doesn't even count)

DT was not released because he couldn't learn plays, or run routes, or didn't practice hard, or work out in the off-season. (he was in outstanding shape this year)

He was released because ShanaMAN didn't like him. He wasn't one of his favorites, he wasn't a yes man type, he just didn't like DT as a person, his off field pursuits and the way he carried himself.

He'd rather have a Roydell Williams accomplishing nothing and taking up space.

In any case we're 3-2, we look altogether different from years past, some young players are stepping up. Let's wish DT good luck in Carolina and set our sights on Peyton Manning and the Colts. HTTR!!

Posted by: 72Redskins | October 11, 2010 8:46 PM | Report abuse

In my opinion a player should be judged by his on field ability. DT never got the chance to play WR in a regular season game.(the one time he lined up at WR doesn't even count)

DT was not released because he couldn't learn plays, or run routes, or didn't practice hard, or work out in the off-season. (he was in outstanding shape this year)

He was released because ShanaMAN didn't like him. He wasn't one of his favorites, he wasn't a yes man type, he just didn't like DT as a person, his off field pursuits and the way he carried himself.

He'd rather have a Roydell Williams accomplishing nothing and taking up space.

In any case we're 3-2, we look altogether different from years past, some young players are stepping up. Let's wish DT good luck in Carolina and set our sights on Peyton Manning and the Colts. HTTR!!

Posted by: 72Redskins | October 11, 2010 8:48 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: adjustments_Redskins | October 11, 2010 8:08 PM

Complete swing and a miss. IF DT was any of those players he would not only be on the roster but a welcome addition. He was the 53rd man on the roster and was cut to add a RB.

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 11, 2010 8:32 PM

I recommend that you re-read my post, and then reflect on the point that I was making. I wasn't comparing DT11 to any of those players. At this time, that type of assertion would be silly at best; like comparing DT11 to Randy Moss. Also, only Shannahan knows why he was cut; thus the speculation.........

Posted by: adjustments_Redskins | October 11, 2010 8:54 PM | Report abuse

72Redskins & diva3

Tana on DT

"You only can talk. That's all you can do. You're grown men. You can't tell them how to do it or show them how to do it. All you can is let them know some of the things to do.

"I feel like he listened to me and he heard me out...At the end of the day, he's going to make his own decisions. You feel me?"

Not only was he a disapointment to the HC, OC, and WR coach, he was also a clown in the eyes of his teammates.

Even Tana tried to help DT and give him direction and at the end of the day, DT would do his own thing.."You feel me?"

Move on.

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 11, 2010 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Unless, of course, pabrian is idiot hater we all suspect him to be...

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 11, 2010 7:18 PM | Report abuse

It's almost all hate up here, I just don't hate the players that it's "ok" to hate, Portis, Haynesworth, etc.

I hate little snitchy and new soup and zorn-a-han, so sorry I think for myself and don't follow the doosh herd up here.

anyone who thinks Portis and haynesworth aren't good are just in complete denial

bake it!

Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 11, 2010 9:03 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: adjustments_Redskins | October 11, 2010 8:54 PM

I recommend you reflect on what MS told DT..

He was the 53rd man on the roster and was cut to add a RB.

There is no speculation in that.

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 11, 2010 9:05 PM | Report abuse

when a coach tries to tell me that haynesworth isn't a starter and Lichtensteiger is

I question it

Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 11, 2010 9:06 PM | Report abuse

"Who would you pick?"


To play center?

Easy: Mike Pouncey, UF

But our 1st rounder might be a 'Bama:

Julio Jones

Mark Ingraham

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 11, 2010 9:06 PM | Report abuse

To play center?

Easy: Mike Pouncey, UF

But our 1st rounder might be a 'Bama:

Julio Jones

Mark Ingraham

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 11, 2010 9:06 PM

Love Pouncey.

Not a big fan of Julio or Ingram.

Ingram is no doubt a beast but got outplayed by a Freshman on Saturday. I'd pass on a RB early. Maybe Demarco Murray or Richardson (Ingrahm's teammate laster in the draft.

Julio has size but his hands are questionable. I'd rank the WRs: AJ Green, Jonathon Baldwin, and the either Julio or Michael Floyd.

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 11, 2010 9:15 PM | Report abuse

"Yeah that Lichtensteiger guy was terrible yesterday."

He and Rabach should be re-named the "Blown By" Brothers.

But then again, they had two stud defensive lineman--Neal, Raji, and gy with a club on one hand--up in their grills with no help as CMatthews wrecked havoc on the edges.

This weekend, DFreeney and TWilliams is the match up to watch.

The colts present a lighter, athletic defense, so we may be able to run the ball much better.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 11, 2010 9:15 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 11, 2010 9:06 PM | Report abuse

I agree those are VERY skilled prospects players but, RB/WR in 1st round is not shanny style it seems.

Mike Pouncey-yes from little time ive seen him play

Posted by: skinswillwin | October 11, 2010 9:16 PM | Report abuse

I'll tell you why DT was cut. Shanahan didn't think he would contribute enough to warrant a place on the roster.

Good luck Devin Thomas! I confess I'm not really sorry to see you released...

Posted by: Pepper5 | October 11, 2010 9:18 PM | Report abuse

I recommend you reflect on what MS told DT..

He was the 53rd man on the roster and was cut to add a RB.

There is no speculation in that.

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 11, 2010 9:05 PM


"With a guy like that, that's so talented, you know if he's not playing receiver, it's something that he's done or something that's not right. Everything happens for a reason. This situation might better Devin. He gets a chance to go somewhere else, start off fresh and be that guy, because he can be that guy..."

I assume that you forgot to cut and paste this.

Clearly that was not the case, I won't bore folks with who was lower on the totem pole. It really doesn't matter anymore. I hope the skins find a wr, besides Moss, to get this offense going. Moss is great and teams rotate double teams to his side once they realize he still has "it"; and he still has "it". Who will step up to seperate in single coverage? To support Donavan while he runs for his life? I wish Thomas the best. Remember, Brandon Banks, Torain, and Williams, all cleared waivers; all solid players. Do you care to reflect on why Devin Thomas did not clear waivers?..........

...........

Posted by: adjustments_Redskins | October 11, 2010 9:19 PM | Report abuse

diesel44

"..Trent Richardson (Ingrahm's teammate laster in the draft."

First, 'Bama has an NFL quality offensive line.

And with that being said, anybody who likes great running backs should sit down and watch Ingraham and Richardson.

Between the two, if I'm an NFL gm, I'm taking Richardson without a thought.

Nothing against Ingraham, mind you, but I like Richardson's size, power, and over all running abliity.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 11, 2010 9:22 PM | Report abuse

so much questioning and negativity "if i was coach this and if i was coach that..." give me a feakin break u couch-patatoes...

The whining should be phrased like this, "Due to the large amount of doritos and beer I consume daily, I hearby understand DT and all of football better than a guy that has won superbowls and is actually coaching him every day."

Posted by: jacksonalex | October 11, 2010 9:23 PM | Report abuse

"I agree 100% with Santana: Thomas is way too talented to not be playing WR in this league.

Posted by: Barno1 | October 11, 2010 8:01 PM"

So Moss and even Shanny both acknowledge that DT has talent. They both also acknowledge that they have repeatedly tried to advise the youngster about what he needed to do different and it fell on deaf ears.

I don't get why this is such a mystery to some people. We've seen a dozen guys like this run through the organization over the last 10 years. Only in one case did any of them ever do anything after they left, and it took Brandon Lloyd a few more years and teams to finally find a spot...and the jury is still out if it will last.

Posted by: Jason10 | October 11, 2010 9:27 PM | Report abuse

"I agree 100% with Santana: Thomas is way too talented to not be playing WR in this league.

Posted by: Barno1 | October 11, 2010 8:01 PM"

So Moss and even Shanny both acknowledge that DT has talent. They both also acknowledge that they have repeatedly tried to advise the youngster about what he needed to do different and it fell on deaf ears.

I don't get why this is such a mystery to some people. We've seen a dozen guys like this run through the organization over the last 10 years. Only in one case did any of them ever do anything after they left, and it took Brandon Lloyd a few more years and teams to finally find a spot...and the jury is still out if it will last.

Posted by: Jason10 | October 11, 2010 9:27 PM

It's a mystery because they didn't replace him with anyone......they cut our most viable 2nd wr option behind Moss; a 2nd rounder that another team picked up for the cost of his existing contract.....

Posted by: adjustments_Redskins | October 11, 2010 9:33 PM | Report abuse

I think we've talked about this cat more than enough. Let's talk aboout beating the dolts.

Posted by: wireman65 | October 11, 2010 6:20 PM
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I could not agree more. Let's talk about the young, developing receivers we do have on the roster. I really like Banks' explosiveness and I feel Armstrong is getting better and better. Terrence Austin waits on the practice squad waiting for his chance and I think he will get it before the season winds down. All in all, a group of young guys to build on.

As far as Indy, it sounds like they lack depth at the safety position and Addai left the game on Sunday, so he's dinged up. I think you beat them by controlling the clock with the running game and short passes, and then hope the defense gets off to a quick start.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | October 11, 2010 9:35 PM | Report abuse

I think we've talked about this cat more than enough. Let's talk aboout beating the dolts.

Posted by: wireman65 | October 11, 2010 6:20 PM
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I could not agree more. Let's talk about the young, developing receivers we do have on the roster. I really like Banks' explosiveness and I feel Armstrong is getting better and better. Terrence Austin waits on the practice squad waiting for his chance and I think he will get it before the season winds down. All in all, a group of young guys to build on.

As far as Indy, it sounds like they lack depth at the safety position and Addai left the game on Sunday, so he's dinged up. I think you beat them by controlling the clock with the running game and short passes, and then hope the defense gets off to a quick start.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | October 11, 2010 9:35 PM

I agree, although this is a blog related to DT11. It's done, he is gone, let's move on.............

Posted by: adjustments_Redskins | October 11, 2010 9:38 PM | Report abuse

"It's a mystery because they didn't replace him with anyone......they cut our most viable 2nd wr option behind Moss; a 2nd rounder that another team picked up for the cost of his existing contract....."

Funny I thought I saw Anthony Armstrong split coverage, fake out a safety on an outside/in move, then adjust to a late underthrown ball to again beat the safety on jump ball TD that was the key play that sparked a Redskins win.....my bad.

Posted by: chrislarry | October 11, 2010 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: adjustments_Redskins | October 11, 2010 9:19 PM

He's gone, he was a bust as a Redskin. Nobody doubts he has the physical skills to be a NFL WR (MS, Tana, etc) but those attributes will only get you drafted. In order to stick and be a professional a player needs to do everything else. If you can't read between Tana's comments then you're not being objective.

Consider his position coach: Keenan McCardell, a 12th RD pick that played 15 yrs and was a 2x pro bowler and SB champ. He also had over 11,000 YDs in his career. You don't think he knows what it takes to be a professional? It's pretty clear that everyone involved was tired of spinning their wheels on a guy with tremendous ability but even with that ability ended up as the 53rd man on the roster.

There are lot's of guys that enter the league with measurables that don't translate to the field.

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 11, 2010 9:40 PM | Report abuse

i dont get why people are hating on this move, devin thomas sucked, so does malcolm kelly, sorry, move on.

Posted by: BMACattack | October 11, 2010 9:42 PM | Report abuse

he whining should be phrased like this, "Due to the large amount of doritos and beer I consume daily, I hearby understand DT and all of football better than a guy that has won superbowls and is actually coaching him every day."

Posted by: jacksonalex | October 11, 2010 9:23 PM | Report abuse

That's so weird. I totally gorged on Doritos and beer yesterday. Tonight I'm just gorging on beer.

Posted by: Pepper5 | October 11, 2010 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Deion Branch traded to the Pats..

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 11, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse

He's gone, he was a bust as a Redskin. Nobody doubts he has the physical skills to be a NFL WR (MS, Tana, etc) but those attributes will only get you drafted. In order to stick and be a professional a player needs to do everything else. If you can't read between Tana's comments then you're not being objective.

Consider his position coach: Keenan McCardell, a 12th RD pick that played 15 yrs and was a 2x pro bowler and SB champ. He also had over 11,000 YDs in his career. You don't think he knows what it takes to be a professional? It's pretty clear that everyone involved was tired of spinning their wheels on a guy with tremendous ability but even with that ability ended up as the 53rd man on the roster.

There are lot's of guys that enter the league with measurables that don't translate to the field.

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 11, 2010 9:40 PM

I'm done on this topic. I agree that there were some perceived problems by Shanahan. I am not sure they are valid based on what I believe to be the core "issues". Shanahan is an interesting person. I read a bio of his life, and I have a lot of respect for what he has been able to achieve based on where he came from. No silver spoon, and definitely the underdog. I cringe to see great potential unrealized by anyone. Based on Shanahan's background I would assume that he would feel the same way. I don't know many 23 year olds that listen to anybody, especially with 5 million dollars in their pocket. I just think that if you are gifted in cultivating potential then you don't waste talent....last words....

Peyton is one of the best QB's at pre reading defenses before the snap. That is where the game will be won or lost..........

Posted by: adjustments_Redskins | October 11, 2010 9:49 PM | Report abuse

It's pretty clear that everyone involved was tired of spinning their wheels on a guy with tremendous ability but even with that ability ended up as the 53rd man on the roster.

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 11, 2010 9:40 PM

Diesel, We've been going around with these people since Saturday and they just don't get it. They are the Devin Thomases of the blog. They are the 53rd guys up here. Let them figure it out for themselves because there's about 100 ways to explain it and these guys don't understand any of them.

Sorry if I unfairly represented your position re: Haynesworth.

Posted by: beep-beep | October 11, 2010 9:53 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: adjustments_Redskins | October 11, 2010 9:49 PM

Now this I can agree with..

It's nice to have a discussion that remains civil.

HTTR

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 11, 2010 9:55 PM | Report abuse

How the Pats stock up on draft picks is testimony to an organization that knows how to build: QB and O-line , first...All else is redundant..

Between the two, if I'm an NFL gm, I'm taking Richardson without a thought.

"Nothing against Ingraham, mind you, but I like Richardson's size, power, and over all running abliity.


Posted by: MistaMoe"

Richardson fits Shanahan's diagonal running style better, also..But, he can find an equivalent in later rounds, probably..

Posted by: frak | October 11, 2010 9:55 PM | Report abuse

My gosh some of you people kill me. You griped when Vinny and Zorn were here. Now you gripe because Shannahan is finally holding people accountable. Make up your minds. We finally get a decent coach and the GM everyone said we needed and you still gripe. Give this new regime a chance to work instead of analyzing everything they do. At least we are finally winning some close games against some decent teams.

Posted by: thediesel44 | October 11, 2010 10:01 PM | Report abuse

My gosh some of you people kill me. You griped when Vinny and Zorn were here. Now you gripe because Shannahan is finally holding people accountable. Make up your minds. We finally get a decent coach and the GM everyone said we needed and you still gripe. Give this new regime a chance to work instead of analyzing everything they do. At least we are finally winning some close games against some decent teams.

Posted by: thediesel44 | October 11, 2010 10:03 PM | Report abuse

My gosh some of you people kill me. You griped when Vinny and Zorn were here. Now you gripe because Shannahan is finally holding people accountable. Make up your minds. We finally get a decent coach and the GM everyone said we needed and you still gripe. Give this new regime a chance to work instead of analyzing everything they do. At least we are finally winning some close games against some decent teams.

Posted by: thediesel44 | October 11, 2010 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: beep-beep | October 11, 2010 9:53 PM

Appreciate the appology. I'm an ass hole, but not that much of an ass hole.

We're good.

F Duke.

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 11, 2010 10:03 PM | Report abuse

My gosh some of you people kill me. You griped when Vinny and Zorn were here. Now you gripe because Shannahan is finally holding people accountable. Make up your minds. We finally get a decent coach and the GM everyone said we needed and you still gripe. Give this new regime a chance to work instead of analyzing everything they do. At least we are finally winning some close games against some decent teams.

Posted by: thediesel44 | October 11, 2010 10:03 PM | Report abuse

My gosh some of you people kill me. You griped when Vinny and Zorn were here. Now you gripe because Shannahan is finally holding people accountable. Make up your minds. We finally get a decent coach and the GM everyone said we needed and you still gripe. Give this new regime a chance to work instead of analyzing everything they do. At least we are finally winning some close games against some decent teams.

Posted by: thediesel44 | October 11, 2010 10:03 PM | Report abuse

My gosh some of you people kill me. You griped when Vinny and Zorn were here. Now you gripe because Shannahan is finally holding people accountable. Make up your minds. We finally get a decent coach and the GM everyone said we needed and you still gripe. Give this new regime a chance to work instead of analyzing everything they do. At least we are finally winning some close games against some decent teams.

Posted by: thediesel44 | October 11, 2010 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Sorry for the multiple posts. My computer was acting stupid.

Posted by: thediesel44 | October 11, 2010 10:05 PM | Report abuse

"Has anyone else seen the crap that LaVar posted on DT?"

Yeah, I'm not a Lavar fan anymore.

Dude has serious sour grapes and all he wants to do is bash the Skins. Every blog he posts it just makes him look worse and worse.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | October 11, 2010 10:07 PM | Report abuse

F Duke.

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 11, 2010 10:03 PM

Try it. Duke will post your picture on the internet, laugh at the size of your manhood, mock the way you kiss their hoo-hoo, ridicule the number of times you hooked them, call you a sissy and rate you 2.5 out of 10. And they'd be right, of course, about everything except the 2.5, which should have been 1.5.

Posted by: beep-beep | October 11, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse

Now this I can agree with..

It's nice to have a discussion that remains civil.

HTTR

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 11, 2010 9:55 PM

We don't have to agree....

HTTR

Posted by: adjustments_Redskins | October 11, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse

Wow. I've made some inexcusable grammatical errors tonight. Glad the the blog police aren't around.

E 44 (that's at least 5 on the evening).

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 11, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse

uh, I said lets set our sights on the Colts, how much more moving on is needed?


DT is a Panther now, case closed.

Lets get ready to bust Peyton Manning in the mouth.

Posted by: 72Redskins | October 11, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse

If this has been brought up already…meh.

LT looks like LT circa 2006. What would I think if CP2006 showed up after he looked like an ankle-spurred-double-concussed-bama-CP2009 last year?

CLEARly outside help is all.

Hate to say it, but all things pro sports for the last decade+ or so says "if it's too good to be true, it probably is."

If he's all homegrown, then props.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | October 11, 2010 10:10 PM | Report abuse

My computer was acting stupid.

Posted by: thediesel44 | October 11, 2010 10:05 PM |

Right. It's a poor craftsman who blames his tools.

Posted by: beep-beep | October 11, 2010 10:11 PM | Report abuse

"Has anyone else seen the crap that LaVar posted on DT?"

Yeah, I'm not a Lavar fan anymore.

Dude has serious sour grapes and all he wants to do is bash the Skins. Every blog he posts it just makes him look worse and worse.

"i dont get why people are hating on this move, devin thomas sucked, so does malcolm kelly, sorry, move on."

Happens everytime someone is cut, pretty rediculous if you ask me. DT sucked, Leigh Torrence, That stupid QB that was cut in the pre-season who's name I can't even remember...they all suck.

I'm very happy with what the Shanny's are doing. They know how to build a team and win games, yet people always have to complain about something.

Get used to it people because more cuts are coming.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | October 11, 2010 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: beep-beep | October 11, 2010 10:08 PM

Speaking of...Wrangler Jeans has changed their slogan.

Wrangler. Comfortable jeans I can easily fit my 4 inch penis in.

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 11, 2010 10:15 PM | Report abuse

Wrangler. Comfortable jeans I can easily fit my 4 inch penis in.

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 11, 2010 10:15 PM

If you got a 4 incher, all jeans are comfortable. So are all vaginas. Not very tight, but comfortable nonetheless.

Posted by: beep-beep | October 11, 2010 10:19 PM | Report abuse

If you got a 4 incher, all jeans are comfortable. So are all vaginas. Not very tight, but comfortable nonetheless.

Posted by: beep-beep | October 11, 2010 10:19 PM

I wouldn't know. Brett Farve does and that's why Wrangler changed their slogan.

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 11, 2010 10:22 PM | Report abuse

The Patriots just grossly overpaid (draft pick wise) for a player that no other team in the league would have given more than a 7th rounder for. Even the genius teams botch things sometimes.

A 4th rounder for a washed-up injury prone player that has never even had a 1000 yard season is way too much. does Cerrato work for them now?

Posted by: Jason10 | October 11, 2010 10:22 PM | Report abuse

Wrangler. Comfortable jeans I can easily fit my 4 inch penis in.

Posted by: Diesel44


Pain pills- Fossilzes turds and shrinks penises..Take enough of 'em, and fools will take pictures of their unit and send them over their cellphones for mass distribution by laughing members of Homeland Security..

Posted by: frak | October 11, 2010 10:25 PM | Report abuse

A 4th rounder for a washed-up injury prone player that has never even had a 1000 yard season is way too much. does Cerrato work for them now?

Posted by: Jason10 | October 11, 2010 10:22 PM

Yeah, blah, blah. Whateves. Patriots traded him to Seattle for a first round pick, bought him back for a fourth round pick. He actually has about the same career stats that Michael Westbrook had for the Redskins. Not a world beater, but he fills a need.

Posted by: beep-beep | October 11, 2010 10:28 PM | Report abuse

Santonio Holmes looks rusty....or stoned!

Posted by: chrislarry | October 11, 2010 10:32 PM | Report abuse

That WAS too much to pay for Branch..But if it placates an angry Brady (over losing Moss), and the Pats go up a 3rd and a 7th after giving up a fourth for Deioin, who knows??

Shoulda picked up Devin on the cheap..For the designated deep-threat headcase wide receiver slot..

Posted by: frak | October 11, 2010 10:32 PM | Report abuse

The Pats GAVE the 7th to Minny in the Moss deal, they didn't get one.

The net result is the Pats gave away Moss, a 4th and a 7th and in return got a 3rd and Branch. You be the judge...

Posted by: Jason10 | October 11, 2010 11:05 PM | Report abuse

According to Jason Reid: Departure of Devin Thomas from Was=Departure of Jerry Rice from SFO!!! 'nuff already!

Posted by: dealer1 | October 11, 2010 11:08 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: RomoLongballs | October 11, 2010 11:15 PM | Report abuse

dealer1- You are forgetting how dreamy DT was. It has nothing to do with football (he sucked) but there are a lot of heart broken Devin Thomas (not Redskins) fans..

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 11, 2010 11:18 PM | Report abuse

We gotta get the run game going against the Colts in order to win this game. Colts have a really weak run D (29th in the league, giving up 142.2 per game) and we should be able to take advantage of it.

Posted by: HokiesSkins | October 11, 2010 11:18 PM | Report abuse

Cromartie is shutting Moss down.

Revis is overrated, I'd take C Wood over him everyday of the week and twice on Sundays.

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 11, 2010 11:25 PM | Report abuse

Combine. So I wonder what they saw in him…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWxgnJeNtmw

Posted by: RomoLongballs | October 11, 2010 11:27 PM | Report abuse

Moss catches Favre's 500th TD. In MN. Wow.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | October 11, 2010 11:30 PM | Report abuse

Farve has over 70,000 passing yards and he's Jason Campbell'ss career yardage ahead of #2 on the all-time list.

I bet he'd trade a few passing YDs for an inch or two somewhere else.

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 11, 2010 11:31 PM | Report abuse

Combine. So I wonder what they saw in him…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWxgnJeNtmw

Posted by: RomoLongballs | October 11, 2010 11:27 PM

They saw a guy that was my size in the 7th grade. He's a true find as an undrafted free agent tho. He's also much faster than that 4.43 40 time. DT actually had a faster 40 time @ 4.40.

The last two weeks BB has easily been the fastest guy on the field and has a better college resume than DT.

Love the diamonds in the rough like BB, AA, and LA.

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 11, 2010 11:41 PM | Report abuse

THATS how you throw to Moss , deep and high over that outside shoulder of Randy, he's a cruiser-class vessel that few destroyer-class corners can handle...But, Cromartie better than most...

Posted by: frak | October 11, 2010 11:41 PM | Report abuse

Favre's drugs kickin' in...The "Good Sh^t"..

Posted by: frak | October 11, 2010 11:45 PM | Report abuse

as anyone else seen the crap that LaVar posted on DT? That dude is such an idiot blowhard...for every Brandon Lloyd the Skins let go, there's a Michael Westbrook, Rod Gardner, and Taylor Jacobs. Stop crying over that stupid contract YOUR AGENTS screwed up and go cover another team if you hate them so much. I hear Penn State could use a blogger with a vendetta...asshat...

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 11, 2010 6:32 PM

Well Said brownwood26, I tried to tell Lavar that he was barking up the wrong tree with this kind of journalism. His perspectives are biased and therefore he cannot give an objective view when doing an article. He should just move on. I think he is secretly working for Jerry Jones trying to convert all skins fans with his Anti Skins Jihad crap.
Bwahahahahahah!

Posted by: go88car | October 11, 2010 11:57 PM | Report abuse

So...how do we beat the Colts? You know, aside from scoring more points. I think we need to score oh...23 points. Can't really count on Manning to gift us much but I do think Banks is primed for a special teams TD and I expect a big game from McNabb, AA to build on last week's performances, and Fred Davis will have a big play or two. 23-20 Skins...any takers?

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | October 12, 2010 12:04 AM | Report abuse

Is it safe to come in here? Is the Devin Thomas worship over with? Chriminy you'd think he had won a Superbowl for us single handedly the way some people are crying over him. I'm glad we've moved on now. Colts are beatable. Hope we have some tackles though because those 2 ends they have are tough to stop.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 12, 2010 12:07 AM | Report abuse

The two best OLs are playing this evening and it's pretty clear that the best plays for the men in green.

If only Vinny would have had committed to that in the draft.

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 12, 2010 12:08 AM | Report abuse

Farve may have no game with the ladies and may have a small penis but he's an absolute warrior and a joy to watch.

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 12, 2010 12:14 AM | Report abuse

We're probably going to need a special teams or defensive TD or 2- but I think Rodgers on the rise is similar to Peyton on the decline, we could put the squelch on that "Frak-degrading" POS, and make it another battle of field-goal kickers..Maybe leave him a bloody "YA Tittle" on his knees at the end of the game..

Posted by: frak | October 12, 2010 12:14 AM | Report abuse

WOW...Jets couldn't have mismanaged the clock any worse.

Setting up Farve for another classic.

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 12, 2010 12:20 AM | Report abuse

Classic Brett

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 12, 2010 12:25 AM | Report abuse

Classic INT...

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 12, 2010 12:28 AM | Report abuse

"Landry just has incredible speed and power," said safety Reed Doughty. "There is no sense in having a heat-seeking missile if it isn't aimed at the right targets. He's just blowing people up."

Yep, that about sums it up. On pace for 170 tackles, 3 INTs/Sacks...dude is finally playing in the right scheme and position and clearly has rededicated himself. Attitude + talent + proper system = the real Dirty 30/probable All-Pro

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | October 12, 2010 12:29 AM | Report abuse

Anybody tell Danny yet that he could make some bucks off a One Man Gang Jersey? I'd buy one.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 12, 2010 12:33 AM | Report abuse

Vikes lose tonight, beat Dallas at home next week. Excellent...

But frankly, the Cowboys are the least of our concerns right now in the NFL Beast. Gints looked pretty impressive and Philly apparently has 2 good QBs.

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | October 12, 2010 12:35 AM | Report abuse

I wonder if the packers are going to get caught with the whole Rodgers concussion shabingus.

He was concussed in the 4th quarter... not on the last play. He got sacked and head slammed. He got up dazed and drunk walked his way to the sideline.

They are trying very hard to slip in under the radar and play it off like it was the last play.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | October 12, 2010 12:40 AM | Report abuse

SFIK- I agree...Rodgers was clearly dinged and the Pack were quick to say it was the Jarmon hit. Even though he held up.

Fishy..

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 12, 2010 12:44 AM | Report abuse

Doughty made some strong plays, too..We're doing alright at strong safety..

Posted by: frak | October 12, 2010 1:00 AM | Report abuse

"I feel like he listened to me and he heard me out...At the end of the day, he's going to make his own decisions. You feel me?"

When I read Moss's final comments, I translate it to:

DT has a thick skull.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | October 12, 2010 1:03 AM | Report abuse

But frankly, the Cowboys are the least of our concerns right now in the NFL Beast. Gints looked pretty impressive and Philly apparently has 2 good QBs.

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | October 12, 2010 12:35 AM
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I dunno about that. If the 49ers had 1 ounce of competence they would've easily won Sunday night.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 12, 2010 1:27 AM | Report abuse

Some guys are fast. Some guys play fast. Banks plays fast.

He can change direction without losing momentum, and he gets to top speed very quickly.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | October 12, 2010 1:34 AM | Report abuse

if we can can get Banks involved in the passing game he could be just like Moss but 2in shorter! Enough with dt he is a panther now never really showed he was better then the other wr's we have SO LETS MOVE ON HE WAS A BUST FOR US MAYBE THE PANTHERS WILL GET SOME OUTTA HIN MAYBE NOT! ONE THING THO DT IS NOOOOOOOOOO RANDY MOSS SO WHY KEEP DRAGGING ON THE CUT??? kelley should be cut also but pulled a colt and is on the ir!!!

Posted by: warriorking1112 | October 12, 2010 2:35 AM | Report abuse

I actually think MK has a chance. He was a dumb pick where he was picked, because of the known injury issues. At this point, there is no downside... its all sunk cost.

But, he has the size, hands, passion for the game that can enable him to be quite good.

He does well and stays healthy, its a bonus. He looks like azz or gets hurt, sayonara.

You can bet your last donut he will be at every OTA and minicamp, and he will work his azz off to make it.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | October 12, 2010 2:59 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, and Randy Moss was a bust in Oakland. And he suddenly became a bust in New England.

I'll tell you what I think, since thinking is what I do best...

Moss probably came in the locker room after Brady signed his fat deal (even though the Patriots had declared they are not signing any deals during the season) and said, "Hey, Skinnyass, you owe me some money." Suddenly, he's a liability. Obviously, he can still play, judging from his TD in NY against the Jets. And NO, he did NOT KNOW THE PLAYBOOK. AT ALL. Six points, and untold safety freezes. Not bad for a guy who might as well have been sleeping through every single Minnesota Viking meeting since August, not to mention skipping every practice.

DT is not Moss. But he's a pretty decent WR and a heck of an athlete.

DT probably made a similar comment about McWho? or Kyle Shanawho? Dating a Redskinette? and that was that. There is something personal going on. If DT was doinking Kyle's wife or Keenan's wife, I would not be surprised, because to cut this guy, from THIS team, RIGHT NOW...?

Makes no sense. Scheme, playbook, skill set? My freakin ass.

DT can play.

I'm not his biggest fan. I thought he was pretty average. Only thing is, compared to Galloway, average looks dang good right about now.

Posted by: Thinker_ | October 12, 2010 5:41 AM | Report abuse

And PS -

I was on here all last year and this offseason bashing Laron Landry. And I don't apologize for it. He played like garbage.

But, let me say this: The guy is F'ing Bringing It. He's playing like the best Strong Safety I've ever seen as a Redskin fan.

I'm back to shaking my head wondering what our Defensive backfield could have looked like with Sean Taylor back there.

Would have been the best tandem in NFL history. No Doubt About It. Not even a close second.

And PPS-

We've been knocking the craboodles out of opposing QBs this year. I called for Rodger's bloated head, and they got it.

Peyton, beware.

Posted by: Thinker_ | October 12, 2010 5:50 AM | Report abuse

DT can play.

Posted by: Thinker_ | October 12, 2010 5:41 AM


Dude, if this is what you came up with, then thinking is NOT what you do best.

Here's how it works in football and in pretty much every profession in the real world: you are what you are based on production. Not potential. Not combine numbers/test scores. Based on what you DO. So based on what he's done, DT absolutely CAN'T play. That's not even debatable.

Randy Moss is great. He can show up to a new team and ball because nobody can stop him on go routes or jump with him to catch the ball at its highest point. DT has NONE of those skills and can't even get himself open. So let's just move on from this guy...because the Redskins certainly have.

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 12, 2010 6:26 AM | Report abuse

Brown,

It's so funny how these people hold on to guys that have never done sh_t, they want the team to do better yet they want to keep all the crappy players.

I'm sure DT will have a HOF career in Carolina, he is the best receiver in the NFL and Shanny only got rid of him because of Shanny's ego. (sarcasm over)

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 12, 2010 6:31 AM | Report abuse

I think we still need some WR help and the clock is ticking. Hey Bruce "all mighty" Allen use some magic and find us a WR to compliment SM89.

Posted by: fat_back | October 12, 2010 6:37 AM | Report abuse

I think we still need some WR help and the clock is ticking. Hey Bruce "all mighty" Allen use some magic and find us a WR to compliment SM89.

Posted by: fat_back | October 12, 2010 6:37 AM |
He already has his name is Anthony Armstrong or did you not watch the game this past weekend.

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 12, 2010 6:39 AM | Report abuse

I'll tell you what I think, since thinking is what I do best...

Posted by: Thinker_ | October 12, 2010 5:41 AM |

Dude, if this is what you came up with, then thinking is NOT what you do best.

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 12, 2010 6:26 AM

LMAO. ROLFMAO. Brownwood's single funniest line ever. Can't get off the floor I'm laughing so hard.

Posted by: beep-beep | October 12, 2010 6:41 AM | Report abuse

Translation- I told him to stop doing that other stuff and just focus on being a WR but he pretty much blew me off.

Tons of talent, ten cent head. Dude doesn't get it right now. He's probably down in Carolina talking himself up there as well.

Essentially two coaching staffs have not been able to get anything out of this guy. By the way, the guy taken right after him in the 2008 draft is DeSean Jackson. Ask Lavar to look at Jackson's stats and tell us why he has such a man crush on DT11.

I'll take another Anothony Armstrong thank you very much. You need guys with heart.

Posted by: jimc93 | October 12, 2010 6:43 AM | Report abuse

F21
With all due respect. Yes I did watch the game and yes I did see AA13 make three catches and yes we still need some help. If you think AA13 solidifies the WR position you better hope SM89 does not have to leave the game for any reason.

Posted by: fat_back | October 12, 2010 6:44 AM | Report abuse

F21
With all due respect. Yes I did watch the game and yes I did see AA13 make three catches and yes we still need some help. If you think AA13 solidifies the WR position you better hope SM89 does not have to leave the game for any reason.


Posted by: fat_back | October 12, 2010 6:44 AM |
I agree we need another receiver but AA13 is coming along, I think we should bring up Terance Austin and cut RW87, no reason to trade for a receiver.

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 12, 2010 6:47 AM | Report abuse

AA13 is a welcome surprise, agree, but after him and SM89 what do you have? If I’m DM5 and this is what I have to work with in order to get a ring…Buyers remorse????

Posted by: fat_back | October 12, 2010 6:52 AM | Report abuse

Ok, and which NFL team did you play for again? Lavar was 100% right. His sentiment has been echoed by both Santana Moss and John Riggins; three great nfl players that have demonstrated dominance during their respective careers. Do you have a problem with their perspective on the situation? Plain and simple, he never got a chance on the field with this new "regime"; as opposed to "coaching staff". Also, remind me of the major media company that you write for. Lavar actually provides the great insight into the organization, team, and the challenges that they face. This is given from the perspective of a former STANDOUT NFL player that was "on the field" and in the heat of battle eveery sunday for years. As opposed to some desk jockey that has never felt smash mouth football in the NFL East. The same goes for Santana and Riggins; real PLAYERS unique insights. Why can't you face the probability, the chance, that there was an issue here unrelated to ability or "practice performance"? And the idea that this move may have been a mistake. I guess Shanny would cut Witten for celebrating in the end zone. Or wait, maybe he will cut our best defensive player, since Sean Taylor, for flexing his muscles after a play. Imagine what he might do to Ray Lewis for celebrations? Relax on the name calling, if anything it diminishes your point.........

Posted by: adjustments_Redskins | October 11, 2010 8:08 PM


This is obviously LaVar...so I'll thank you for your years of service to the burgundy and gold.

And now I'll politely ask that you shut your face.

First of all, nobody cut DT because he celebrated making plays. From everything reported, his release was due to a sum total of things that led Shanahan to believe DT just "doesn't get it". He simply didn't carry himself like a pro. Last time I checked, a coach has every right to cut a guy that doesn't perform up to snuff. If DT were making plays and doing what was asked of him, Shanahan would be left with no choice but to play him. DT gave him no such incentive.

Second, am I to believe that because former and current players don't like the release I'm supposed to buy it wholesale because it comes from those who "felt smash mouth football in the NFL East"? Just like coaches and fans can be wrong, so can former pros. Just because you've BEEN in a locker room, doesn't mean you know exactly what's going on in one now.

And consider this: players tend to be empathetic to other players. It's human nature. They liked DT, they saw his talent, but he never got it to the point where the coaches would be impressed. Just like any "desk jockey" has to impress his boss and show it to the people that count, DT had to make sure Shanahan saw how good he could be...not Santana Moss or retired pros like Arrington or Riggins.

So you'll excuse me if I defer to the people actually paid to make these calls, not the ones paid to criticize it. Time will tell if it was the right call.

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 12, 2010 6:53 AM | Report abuse

It's so funny how these people hold on to guys that have never done sh_t, they want the team to do better yet they want to keep all the crappy players.

I'm sure DT will have a HOF career in Carolina, he is the best receiver in the NFL and Shanny only got rid of him because of Shanny's ego. (sarcasm over)

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 12, 2010 6:31 AM


Exactly...these are the same folks that thought Marcus Mason would be the 2nd coming of Emmitt Smith, and Marko Mitchell would be Randy Moss 2.0. Totally delusional...

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 12, 2010 6:57 AM | Report abuse

If I’m DM5 and this is what I have to work with in order to get a ring…Buyers remorse????

Posted by: fat_back | October 12, 2010 6:52 AM |

Come on, man. DM5 did not say to anyone "I want to go to the Redskins so I can 'get a ring' in 2010." If he thought that, then he's posting up here as thinker_. He knew who the receivers are.

Posted by: beep-beep | October 12, 2010 6:59 AM | Report abuse

This is obviously LaVar...so I'll thank you for your years of service to the burgundy and gold.

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 12, 2010 6:53 AM

This is generous of you brownwood. LaVar had exactly zero years of service to the burgundy and gold. He had six years of service to himself, wearing the burgundy and gold. Burgundy and gold served him for six years. He never served anyone but himself.

Posted by: beep-beep | October 12, 2010 7:07 AM | Report abuse

Beepx2
I Didn’t say he said he came here for a ring. That said every player wants a ring don’t they?
Point is do you think the receivers we have are good enough to carry this team to the Superbowl?

Posted by: fat_back | October 12, 2010 7:10 AM | Report abuse

BTW...love how The 'Ol Cockslinger vows that he'll play "lights out" and then promptly turns the lights out on the Vikings' season. Couldn't happen to a better guy...

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 12, 2010 7:15 AM | Report abuse

Point is do you think the receivers we have are good enough to carry this team to the Superbowl?

Posted by: fat_back | October 12, 2010 7:10 AM

Yes. I don't think the OL is good enough.

But, for god's sake why are you talking about a superbowl? Are you Vinny? We have a lot of rebuilding to do, including WR. We're a couple of years away from superbowl.

Posted by: beep-beep | October 12, 2010 7:23 AM | Report abuse

Beeps
hahaha Vinny hahahah. You're funny. You are right about one thing and we need a WR to go with SM89 and I'll include AA13.

Posted by: fat_back | October 12, 2010 7:30 AM | Report abuse

Bring back Anthony Mix!

Posted by: FedorEm | October 12, 2010 7:34 AM | Report abuse

"...but AA13 is coming along, I think we should bring up Terance Austin and cut RW87, no reason to trade for a receiver."

What I like about the situaion with Armstrong is that he's being groomed and given the starting job at a very logical and even pace.

You know like I do, that at some point, TAustin (or some other young receiver) will be squeezed into the time slot presently occupied by RWilliams.

RWilliams' production, such as it is, is about what you'd expect out of a young, developing receiver.

Thing is, a younger guy has upside.

I'd put my money on TAustin giving playing time right after the mid-season bye.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 12, 2010 7:39 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, right FedorEm...I also heard Albert Connell is available...

Can't wait for this Colts game...their run defense is crap and if we can get Torain back on track (no pun intended), we stand a great chance to win. If we beat the Pack and the Colts back-to-back, all is forgiven for the Rams loss, IMO...

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 12, 2010 7:42 AM | Report abuse

"...but AA13 is coming along, I think we should bring up Terance Austin and cut RW87, no reason to trade for a receiver."

What I like about the situaion with Armstrong is that he's being groomed and given the starting job at a very logical and even pace.

You know like I do, that at some point, TAustin (or some other young receiver) will be squeezed into the time slot presently occupied by RWilliams.

RWilliams' production, such as it is, is about what you'd expect out of a young, developing receiver.

Thing is, a younger guy has upside.

I'd put my money on TAustin giving playing time right after the mid-season bye.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 12, 2010 7:39 AM
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Word. Totally agree. Although I wish they had a bigger receiver in the litter, I really like the speed of guys like Banks, Austin and Armstrong. Maybe we get the big body wide receiver next year...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | October 12, 2010 7:49 AM | Report abuse

Exactly...these are the same folks that thought Marcus Mason would be the 2nd coming of Emmitt Smith, and Marko Mitchell would be Randy Moss 2.0. Totally delusional...

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 12, 2010 6:57 AM
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Whoa. Realize it is early, but are you saying Marcus Mason ISN'T the 2nd coming of Emmitt Smith and Marko Mitchell ISN'T Randy Moss 2.0? Wow. I am in shock. Next you'll be telling me Leigh Torrence isn't the reincarnation of Darrell Green...

BTW, Marko Mitchel is so thirty seconds ago. The new martyr is Devin Thomas. We would have been undefeated if only he had played at wide receiver...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | October 12, 2010 7:59 AM | Report abuse

Some ANALYSIS from John Keim @ the Examiner:

What we’ve learned

1. Brandon Banks makes a big difference on punt returns » Banks’ speed and confidence helped bail the Redskins out of potential bad field position on a few occasions. On consecutive returns in the fourth quarter, Banks ran the ball 30 yards to the Redskins’ 40-yard line and then 17 yards to the Redskins’ 25. The first return set up a touchdown; the other prevented bad field position and led to a field goal attempt. The rule among returners is not to field the ball inside the 10-yard line, but Banks was right to do so in each case and it benefited the Redskins.

2. The Redskins dislike of Devin Thomas wasn’t about his talent » It was about him performing in music videos or going on modeling shoots in the offseason, among other things. If you haven’t made your mark yet, don’t do extracurricular things that suggest you have. That was strike one against him and Thomas never recovered. Yes, he’s better than Roydell Williams. But Thomas has starter talent and needed to show the Redskins that he had starter commitment. That wasn’t the case. Talented guys with suspect work habits at the bottom of the roster aren’t exactly a coach’s delight.

3. Safety LaRon Landry is playing like an elite player » This isn’t a fluke; this is a continuation of what Landry showed this summer. He’ll still make some mistakes — Ed Reed made them, too. But Landry has become the playmaker everyone anticipated when he was drafted. A difference now is that he’s become more studious and recognizes more of what the offense is doing. That helped him on the interception as he read the play and was in perfect position.

4. The Redskins have issues along the offensive line » Left guard Kory Lichtensteiger has drawn criticism, but the right side of the line is coming off its worst game. Perhaps it was just the opponent; right guard Artis Hicks had played his best game the previous week vs. Philadelphia. But Jammal Brown is now dealing with a knee injury to go along with a hip that still bothers him while playing a position he’s still getting comfortable at. But it’s not limited to two guys. The breakdowns have occurred each game and it’s why the running game has been inconsistent.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/sports/It-hasn_t-been-pretty-___-1187617-104751069.html#ixzz1293cmUIm

Posted by: beep-beep | October 12, 2010 8:00 AM | Report abuse

RSH, Marko feels like 30 years ago, it's Devin that's 30 seconds ago...

I'm just sick of talking about guys no longer wearing our uniform. There's 53 guys we could be talking about that are still relevant to us...

Ironically, I can honestly say I'm looking for an AH update...any word on whether he's coming back this week?

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 12, 2010 8:07 AM | Report abuse

RSH, Marko feels like 30 years ago, it's Devin that's 30 seconds ago...

I'm just sick of talking about guys no longer wearing our uniform. There's 53 guys we could be talking about that are still relevant to us...

Ironically, I can honestly say I'm looking for an AH update...any word on whether he's coming back this week?

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 12, 2010 8:07 AM
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Not a peep, but I would expect him to hit one or two late week practices and then be available on Sunday. Of course, I though he would play last Sunday, but he didn't.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | October 12, 2010 8:11 AM | Report abuse

Ironically, I can honestly say I'm looking for an AH update...any word on whether he's coming back this week?

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 12, 2010 8:07 AM

His brother's funeral is today. At least let them get the boy's body in the ground before we worry about a stupid football game.

Posted by: beep-beep | October 12, 2010 8:12 AM | Report abuse

What does Roydell Williams give us? Maybe it raises our team age and that's about it. Unlike Galloway who still can run a little. I agree with the bringing up Austin. Youth is always good!

Posted by: joeboggs | October 12, 2010 8:12 AM | Report abuse

"...their (the colts) run defense is crap and if we can get Torain back on track... we stand a great chance to win."


Yes, the colts' run defense can not be defended.

But they'll come to town with GOD himself playing under center.

Thing is, how do you beat GOD?

How do you face a media, cultural supreme being with the kind of pedigree and reputation that humbles most pro athletes?

You put pressure in HIM face or make HIM think it's coming.

You jam HIS receivers.

You hit HIM even if it mean you're going to get the occasional penalty.

You have to be on the lookout for 'pick' and 'rub off' plays.

You shut down HIS running game and make HIM one-dimensional.

You let everything happen in front of you, and then punish HIS receivers.

You don't panic if HE makes a great throw for big yards as, well, he's GOD, and he'll do that from time to time.

And above all, you try to keep the game close and tight knowing that where you see Manning as GOD, the colts see McNabb as Jesus himself.

And with Jesus on our side, we can knock the Devil out of the colts.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 12, 2010 8:14 AM | Report abuse

Good stuff, beep...LOVE what I'm hearing/seeing from Landry. Dude looks like a top 10 pick for the first time and could be turning the same corner we saw Sean Taylor turn in '07.

And once again, DT's situation summed up perfectly. Not sure how many times you can say the same thing to get his apologists to understand it, but I guess being a fan of a guy who "doesn't get it" indirectly means you don't "get it" either...

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 12, 2010 8:18 AM | Report abuse

His brother's funeral is today. At least let them get the boy's body in the ground before we worry about a stupid football game.

Posted by: beep-beep | October 12, 2010 8:12 AM


Slow your roll, hoss...didn't know the funeral hadn't happened yet. I thought I heard it was this past Sunday, but apparently not.

Having been to more than my fair share of funerals in the last year, seems to me he'd be out the next game too. You wanna be with your family a couple days after the funeral, plus he's coming from Nashville. Seems to me he wouldn't be back in time to practice up to Shanahan's requirements, so might as well take the extra time to be with the family.

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 12, 2010 8:24 AM | Report abuse

4. The Redskins have issues along the offensive line » Left guard Kory Lichtensteiger has drawn criticism, but the right side of the line is coming off its worst game. Perhaps it was just the opponent; right guard Artis Hicks had played his best game the previous week vs. Philadelphia. But Jammal Brown is now dealing with a knee injury to go along with a hip that still bothers him while playing a position he’s still getting comfortable at. But it’s not limited to two guys. The breakdowns have occurred each game and it’s why the running game has been inconsistent.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/sports/It-hasn_t-been-pretty-___-1187617-104751069.html#ixzz1293cmUIm

Posted by: beep-beep | October 12, 2010 8:00 AM
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I think we all fail to realize that, when Brown and Williams are in there, this line only has one player who returns from last season. Lichtensteiger was a late insertion and Heyer has been moving from left to right tackle as guys have been injured. Montgomery spent some time on the line on Sunday. To me, I think it is fairly obvious that there's a continuity problem here. These guys haven't played together enough to work as a unit. When you add the continuity factor to deficiencies of the players: too-weak Lichtensteiger, plays-too-high Heyer, and Casey did-you-get-the-number-of-that-nose-tackle Rabach, this is a unit that needs work and needs guys healthy. Unfortunately, the good health thing is something they might not see for awhile as the tackles are dinged up. If I'm Shanahan, I'd be thinking that I need to stomp the accelerator on the development of guys like Capers. Shoot, activate him and let him play in a game as Jumbo formation tight end, give him some spell reps at tackle - at least get him used to the speed of the game while working on his technique.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | October 12, 2010 8:25 AM | Report abuse

glad the redskins won...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 12, 2010 8:30 AM | Report abuse

This is obviously LaVar...so I'll thank you for your years of service to the burgundy and gold.

And now I'll politely ask that you shut your face.

First of all, nobody cut DT because he celebrated making plays. From everything reported, his release was due to a sum total of things that led Shanahan to believe DT just "doesn't get it". He simply didn't carry himself like a pro. Last time I checked, a coach has every right to cut a guy that doesn't perform up to snuff. If DT were making plays and doing what was asked of him, Shanahan would be left with no choice but to play him. DT gave him no such incentive.

Second, am I to believe that because former and current players don't like the release I'm supposed to buy it wholesale because it comes from those who "felt smash mouth football in the NFL East"? Just like coaches and fans can be wrong, so can former pros. Just because you've BEEN in a locker room, doesn't mean you know exactly what's going on in one now.

And consider this: players tend to be empathetic to other players. It's human nature. They liked DT, they saw his talent, but he never got it to the point where the coaches would be impressed. Just like any "desk jockey" has to impress his boss and show it to the people that count, DT had to make sure Shanahan saw how good he could be...not Santana Moss or retired pros like Arrington or Riggins.

So you'll excuse me if I defer to the people actually paid to make these calls, not the ones paid to criticize it. Time will tell if it was the right call.

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 12, 2010 6:53 AM


No I am not Lavar, but thanks for the compliment.

"And now I'll politely ask that you shut your face."

Internet bravado; you definitely wouldn't say that to his face.

No need to respond to the rest.

Posted by: adjustments_Redskins | October 12, 2010 8:31 AM | Report abuse

Beep Beep

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 12, 2010 8:33 AM | Report abuse

Look, I'm getting tired of those of you who write whiney posts like, "Lavar's posts are BS, or JReid is making stuff up about AH, etc." I am far more interested in what Lavar and JReid have to say than what you have to say! They actually have perspective and/or experience, which is interesting!" You're just a stupid fan, like me! So please do us all a favor and stop whining all the time about the Washington Post writers if you don't have something useful to add yourself.

Posted by: supattapone | October 12, 2010 9:06 AM | Report abuse

Devin Thomas doesn't have to lead the Panthers to the super bowl or become all pro or the next Jerry Rice to make this a stupid move. All he has to do is catch more balls then Joey Galloway or Roydell Williams. Because they are the two useless pieces of trash that are still lingering around Redskins Park, that contibute nothing to us winning.

Posted by: renhoekk2 | October 12, 2010 10:18 AM | Report abuse

Wow, the Skins release Jerry Rice, Randy Moss? I like a good love story, so now DT and Fantasia can go off into the Carolina sunset and be happy ever after, oops. I think he'll do ok, but that's up to DT. But can the Skins get some of that $$$ back so we can get a couple offensive lineman before wed?

Posted by: butche106 | October 12, 2010 10:50 AM | Report abuse

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