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Santana Moss received treatment from doctor accused of HGH smuggling, according to source

Updated at 1:30 p.m.

Washington Redskins wide receiver Santana Moss was among the professional athletes who received treatment from Canadian doctor Anthony Galea, according to two sources familiar with the investigation. On Tuesday, Galea was charged with smuggling and distributing human growth hormone.

One source said that Moss was the player Galea's medical assistant, Mary Anne Catalano, was on her way to meet in Washington, when she was arrested at the U.S.-Canada border on Sept. 14, 2009, with HGH, syringes and other medical equipment in her vehicle.

Moss would not discuss the matter at Redskins Park on Wednesday.

"I'll talk about football. I don't know about nothing else," Moss said. "I ain't got nothing to do with nothing that ain't about me."

Moss's name was first reported today by the Buffalo News. The newspaper, which cited unidentified sources close to the case in its report, said that at this point federal prosecutors do not intend to file criminal charges against Moss or any other athlete with connections to the doctor.

Redskins senior vice president Tony Wyllie said, "This is an off-the-field matter. I'm going to refer all questions to his agent, Drew Rosenhaus."

Rosenhaus did not immediately return messages seeking comment.

More here.

By Rick Maese  |  May 20, 2010; 8:50 AM ET
Categories:  Santana Moss  
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Comments

Uh-oh....I hear T.O's phone ringing...

Posted by: gixxer998 | May 20, 2010 9:03 AM | Report abuse

Pretty funny Moss is on the cover of WaPo when it's probably him whos gonna get in trouble...

Posted by: Rypien11 | May 19, 2010 9:52 PM

Yup.

Posted by: Rypien11 | May 20, 2010 9:04 AM | Report abuse

RE: Comment on Moss on last thread

nevamind....

Posted by: RedDMV | May 20, 2010 9:09 AM | Report abuse

Total bummer. Thought Santana was one of the ones that knew better. :-/

Posted by: Corvis777 | May 20, 2010 9:09 AM | Report abuse

Monk you have to look at precedent and league rules Cushing was just suspended 4 games for a substance turning up in his urine that isnt even a "Steroid" just used to boost hormone levels after taking a cycle. What we know now is that Moss has been using HGH since 2007 receiving at least 50 treatments. Say what you will but was he "just trying to get back on the field" that whole time. I think not Moss knowingly used a banned substance for an extended period of time I have a feeling Goodell will not look kindly on it.

Posted by: TimmySmith36 | May 20, 2010 9:09 AM | Report abuse

^^^^^
Ryp... did you just have a conversation with yourself?

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | May 20, 2010 9:09 AM | Report abuse

Sure did. I've been saying it was Moss for two days before this.

Posted by: Rypien11 | May 20, 2010 9:11 AM | Report abuse

"Santana Moss received HGH from accused Canadian doctor, source says"


(INSERT image of Moe yawning, stretching, scratching his sack, and turning over to fall back asleep.)

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 20, 2010 9:11 AM | Report abuse

This is at least a 4 game suspension for violation of the PED section of the collective bargaining agreement.

Posted by: srobert1117 | May 20, 2010 9:12 AM | Report abuse

The "Source" is the U.S. attorney prosecuting Galea's case

Posted by: TimmySmith36 | May 20, 2010 9:12 AM | Report abuse

Uh-oh....I hear T.O's phone ringing...

Posted by: gixxer998 | May 20, 2010 9:03 AM


You probably meant that tongue-in-cheek, but I guarantee they at least bring him in for a workout now...

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 20, 2010 9:12 AM | Report abuse

Doesn't matter, he's done after this year.

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | May 20, 2010 9:15 AM | Report abuse

Rypien11 > Nostradamus

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | May 20, 2010 9:16 AM | Report abuse

Stil though, don't they have to prove he took some substance?

Here are the points:

http://www.buffalonews.com/2010/05/20/1056021/nfl-name-emerges-in-doping-case.html

But at this point, federal prosecutors do not intend to file criminal charges against Moss or any other athlete who had dealings with the doctor.

“At this juncture, any of the persons who are alleged to have used these substances are considered witnesses, and not targets, of this investigation,” Hochul told The Buffalo News.

Moss, 30, is not mentioned by name in court papers filed in Galea’s case on Tuesday, and the Redskins player is not charged with any crime.

The problem seems to be this:

Galea never obtained legal permission to work as a doctor or in any other capacity in the United States, according to a court affidavit filed by Justin J. Burnham, an agent with Immigration & Customs Enforcement.

“Despite the absence of such authorization ... Dr. Galea entered the United States from Canada numerous times from 2007 to September 2009 and worked here as a doctor providing medical services to numerous professional athletes, billed them for services and expenses, and sold medication to them. His billings to three of [the athletes] amounted to approximately $200,000,” the affidavit says.

Posted by: Rypien11 | May 20, 2010 9:18 AM | Report abuse

BTW... MistaMoe.... if your on here....

TTTTHHHHHHAAAAA RAAAAAAYS WIN!

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | May 20, 2010 9:19 AM | Report abuse

Ain't no "U" in team.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | May 20, 2010 9:19 AM | Report abuse

Well MK/DT better be what Vinny hoped they were....

Posted by: chrislarry | May 20, 2010 9:21 AM | Report abuse

Best reciever on the team gone.

Posted by: baughdawg | May 20, 2010 9:23 AM | Report abuse

Only way this actually sticks to Moss is if either the assistant or Doctor rats him out, right?


Either way, it's whatever. If he didn't receive or take anything, cool. If he did, then give him suspension and move on.

It isn't like Santana Moss is assaulting the record books these days.

Posted by: RedDMV | May 20, 2010 9:23 AM | Report abuse

Is Marko still available?

Posted by: Salinas1 | May 20, 2010 9:25 AM | Report abuse

Uh-oh....I hear T.O's phone ringing...

Posted by: gixxer998 | May 20, 2010 9:03 AM


You probably meant that tongue-in-cheek, but I guarantee they at least bring him in for a workout now...

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 20, 2010 9:12 AM


I did...

Posted by: gixxer998 | May 20, 2010 9:26 AM | Report abuse

Hmmm... I smell suspension.

Posted by: datruth21 | May 20, 2010 9:26 AM | Report abuse

If true, this is great, just great. As if we didn't already have a shortage of proven playmakers at WR. Good job, 'tana.


Posted by: rbpalmer | May 20, 2010 9:26 AM | Report abuse

Stil though, don't they have to prove he took some substance?
Posted by: Rypien11
I read somewhere that there are provisions in the agreement that allows the NFL to punish players in situations like this. They realized that not testing blood for HGH that this type of situation would occur.

Posted by: srobert1117 | May 20, 2010 9:27 AM | Report abuse

Uh-oh....I hear T.O's phone ringing...

Posted by: gixxer998 | May 20, 2010 9:03 AM


You probably meant that tongue-in-cheek, but I guarantee they at least bring him in for a workout now...

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 20, 2010 9:12 AM


I did... Time for the young bucks to step up.

Posted by: gixxer998 | May 20, 2010 9:27 AM | Report abuse

I say we still go over the top for A. Johnson- We've got star players that don't fit our new 3-4, we're overloaded with star TE's, and AJ was Da Bomb with Kyle Shanahan at Texans OC..It just makes sense, especially now with Moss..

Posted by: frak | May 20, 2010 9:27 AM | Report abuse

It isn't like Santana Moss is assaulting the record books these days.

Posted by: RedDMV | May 20, 2010 9:23 AM | Report abuse


Exactly. The team can get by without him.

Still, it would be nice to have him out there torching #3 corners.

I just hope he comes clean and moves on.

Posted by: Original_etrod | May 20, 2010 9:28 AM | Report abuse

Wow! I was wondering how he got 70+ receptions with a bum knee. Guess now we know.

Anyone thinking that the AH/Andre Johnson trade talks might really pick up? Moss is history unless he can sneak HGH into his career!

Typical of someone from "the U". Is it just me or do their players have an edict to cheat, play dirty, not be a team player, not respect their coaches or teammates, or not follow a team's schedule? The name of the school should be "the ME".

Posted by: DC2AZ99 | May 20, 2010 9:28 AM | Report abuse

"I'll talk about football. I don't know about nothing else," Moss said. "I ain't got nothing to do with nothing that ain't about me."

Wow! a quadruple negative. Does that mean he does not know but does know?

Posted by: isonic1 | May 20, 2010 9:28 AM | Report abuse

Well, for at least four games we'll see what D Thomas, M Kelly, and J Galloway have to offer. Plus some others I'm forgetting.

Posted by: Devo2 | May 20, 2010 9:29 AM | Report abuse

And another thing:

Why not get HGH or your 'roids from someone in the U.S.? Do they think it's "uncut, never been stepped on" HGH?


Some how the 'roids game reminds me of the crack game

Posted by: RedDMV | May 20, 2010 9:29 AM | Report abuse

The upside to this is that it forces the Skins to throw in Thomas and Kelly, sink or swim. We'll see what happens....

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 20, 2010 9:30 AM | Report abuse

Mel Kiper reports that TOs stock is rising this morning.
Houston has no comment because they're on the phone.

Posted by: 2ndtierfan | May 20, 2010 9:30 AM | Report abuse

Oh crap, had to be my favorite player. But it is quite a coincidence that Moss has stayed healthy the past 2 yrs after being injury prone in the 2 seasons before. Just when he gets a QB that can get him the ball deep, this happens.

Posted by: ga8085 | May 20, 2010 9:30 AM | Report abuse

santana said, "I don't know about nothing else. I ain't got nothing to do with nothing that ain't about me."

well, as someone pointed out yesterday, moss is fond of double, nay, multiple negatives.

his statement, "I don't know about nothing else" means he DOES know something.

his next statement is more complex:
"I ain't got nothing to do with nothing that ain't about me."

that could be a quadruple negative (i.e. a "positive") meaning "i do have something to do with something that is about me" - which is just kind of a meaningless statement, but could be construed as an admission of guilt.

OR, it could be punctuated incorrectly in the written reports. it could be two different sentences punctuated thus:

1)"I ain't got nothing to do with nothing." - a triple negative meaning he doesn't have anything to do with it.

followed by,

2)"That ain't about me." - where he's saying the HGH issue is not about him.

parsed this way, as two different sentences, he is actually denying involvement.

of course he could be lying.

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | May 20, 2010 9:30 AM | Report abuse

Dammit, time to find a new jersey.

Posted by: trezmartin | May 20, 2010 9:32 AM | Report abuse

Hard to believe that Santana has used Human Growth Hormone. I mean - he's like 5 feet tall, right?

Posted by: pgcorky | May 20, 2010 9:32 AM | Report abuse

Typical of someone from "the U". Is it just me or do their players have an edict to cheat, play dirty, not be a team player, not respect their coaches or teammates, or not follow a team's schedule? The name of the school should be "the ME".

Posted by: DC2AZ99 | May 20, 2010 9:28 AM | Report abuse

You stole my thunder!! Whatever that means?

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | May 20, 2010 9:33 AM | Report abuse

I would be upset if this was the Moss from 2005, but since it's the Moss of 2010, big deal. He was finished years ago.

Posted by: richie_sheppard | May 20, 2010 9:33 AM | Report abuse

Well that explains why he's been unstoppable for the last 3 years.

Posted by: mack1 | May 20, 2010 9:35 AM | Report abuse

Dammit, time to find a new jersey.

Posted by: trezmartin | May 20, 2010 9:32 AM


Cooley has always been the safe choice...or you could do what I do and that's just get it personalized.

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 20, 2010 9:35 AM | Report abuse

imagine how bad our receiver corps would have been the last 3 years if he hadn't been taking hgh

Posted by: dbuggs | May 20, 2010 9:36 AM | Report abuse

"I'll talk about football. I don't know about nothing else," Moss said. "I ain't got nothing to do with nothing that ain't about me."

Lies, lies, lies.

Yet someone else who thinks he is above everyone else and won't get caught.

Lame.

As someone said above it's not like he's been exactly tearing up the field lately.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | May 20, 2010 9:37 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, no way the Texans give up Andre Johnson unless it for like 3 1st rounders. He's the main cog in their offense, why in the world would they trade him? Hopefully Moss can appeal any impeding suspension and play the whole year. I blame Zorn for this, all his 3 yard comeback routes forced Moss's legs to give out.

Posted by: ga8085 | May 20, 2010 9:37 AM | Report abuse

haters are coming out of the woodwork....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | May 20, 2010 9:38 AM | Report abuse

In order for the prosecuting attorney to prosecute Galea the names of the players involved had to be released as they will be key witnesses during the case. I wonder who else is involved? I am pretty sure the initial report cited 22 players were "receiving treatments" from Galea. 3 of those were from the Washington area one of those is now retired. Chris Samuels? I truly hope not

Posted by: TimmySmith36 | May 20, 2010 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Only way this actually sticks to Moss is if either the assistant or Doctor rats him out, right?

Either way, it's whatever. If he didn't receive or take anything, cool. If he did, then give him suspension and move on.

It isn't like Santana Moss is assaulting the record books these days.

Posted by: RedDMV | May 20, 2010 9:23 AM
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I dunno Red. It sounds like they have the financial records from this doctor. You have a payment from a player to a doctor who has been known to treat people with HGH. If Moss clams up, the feds will come after him in hopes of forcing a confession. It's in his best interest to come clean, cooperate fully and take his er... um medicine from the league. I know at least one article said a player had come forward saying they had received treatments from the doctor. I think Santana has already come clean with Shanny and crew.

I agree that Moss wasn't exactly lighting up the record books. The team must have known something about this because they suddenly signed Galloway and Wade, who had been on the market for awhile. It's not time to panic, but I would suspect they will continue to kick the tires on available receivers.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | May 20, 2010 9:39 AM | Report abuse

Typical of someone from "the U". Is it just me or do their players have an edict to cheat, play dirty, not be a team player, not respect their coaches or teammates, or not follow a team's schedule? The name of the school should be "the ME".

Posted by: DC2AZ99


lol... depending how old you are, you were probably the exact kind of person I was talking about yesterday RE: "The U".


Must've sucked puking up beer and nachos or crying yourself to sleep in your top bunk every Saturday night when Miami was running roughshod in the late 80s and late 90s.

Posted by: RedDMV | May 20, 2010 9:40 AM | Report abuse

"imagine how bad our receiver corps would have been the last 3 years if he hadn't been taking hgh

Posted by: dbuggs | May 20, 2010 9:36 AM
.......................

yeah, jeez... looking at it that way he's probably hurt our draft position the last few years too... (laughs/cries...)

or

taken playing time away from kelly/thomas et al.... (laughs/cries s'more...)

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | May 20, 2010 9:40 AM | Report abuse

I blame JC for this.. not getting the ball to tana on time.

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | May 20, 2010 9:40 AM | Report abuse

Say what you will about Moss but 70+ catches a year is solid and he has been our #1 receiver for years losing him for even 4 games IS a big deal

Posted by: TimmySmith36 | May 20, 2010 9:42 AM | Report abuse

ROFLMAO @ Walter... nice

Posted by: vtsquirm1 | May 20, 2010 9:45 AM | Report abuse

Sucks about moss especially if there is a suspension. However, I do not think we need to overreact with AJ talk. Kind of explains the Galloway signing, assuming the Shanallen knew what could be coming down.

Didn't McNabb and the iggles offense get to the championship game with Freddie Mitchell and Reggie Brown?

Posted by: rickmort | May 20, 2010 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Wow... all this Moss hate just proves that there is no universally loved Redskins anymore...

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 20, 2010 9:47 AM | Report abuse

People can say it's not a big deal to lose Moss for 4 games because he is old but bottom line is that he is the clear cut #1 receiver on this team. Thomas and Kelly have proven absolutely nothing and last year Galloway proved that he is washed up.

Just opens up another hole on a team full of holes. Anyone thinking this team competes for a playoff spot is smoking crack.

With so many holes the team should not have traded for McNabb. Should have traded out of the #4 spot and picked up additional picks. This is delaying the inevitable rebuilding project that is coming.

Posted by: srobert1117 | May 20, 2010 9:50 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | May 20, 2010 9:38 AM

Seriously. Guy hasn't even been charged with anything yet... just being treated as a witness at this point.

I doubt they all hated him when he was scoring game winning TDs against Dallas, NYG, Jax, NO... etc etc.

Posted by: Rypien11 | May 20, 2010 9:50 AM | Report abuse

Isnt one of the Caps players part of the investigation as well?

Posted by: TimmySmith36 | May 20, 2010 9:50 AM | Report abuse

Didn't McNabb and the iggles offense get to the championship game with Freddie Mitchell and Reggie Brown?

Posted by: rickmort | May 20, 2010 9:47 AM


Exactly...and he did so without a ground game to speak of. Even with the unproven WRs here, just giving DMac a solid running attack will get this offense right. Plus having Cooley and Davis makes life much easier in the passing game. We've seen McNabb win with much less at WR...even without Moss, I'm not worried.

Hell, I'm more worried about the defense than I am the offense...

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 20, 2010 9:51 AM | Report abuse

RSH, agreed. If he did it time to fess up to the public so this won't drag out all summer.

And you're right, those WR signings make a lot of sense now.

Where is Marko, where is Marko.....

Posted by: RedDMV | May 20, 2010 9:52 AM | Report abuse

there is no universally loved Redskins anymore...

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 20, 2010 9:47 AM | Report abuse


Donny Mac!

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | May 20, 2010 9:52 AM | Report abuse

Time to release the 22 other names supposedly involved in the case..

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | May 20, 2010 9:54 AM | Report abuse

Never a dull moment on "As The Redskins Turn", is it?? What drama could be next?? The TO Lands?? Haynesworth becomes a Muslim?? sheesh..

Posted by: frak | May 20, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse

I am not hating on Moss at all he is one of my favorite players the guy has been our #1 receiver for years. I am simply stating the facts and the fact is that he used a substance banned by the league therefore he will be suspended for a number of games. How many who knows? Like I said before don't be surprised if it is at least 6 games. I think it will be a serious blow to the offense sense DK/MK havent shown us anything yet.

Posted by: TimmySmith36 | May 20, 2010 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Wow... all this Moss hate just proves that there is no universally loved Redskins anymore...

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 20, 2010 9:47 AM

Orakpo. For now, anyway.

Posted by: beep-beep | May 20, 2010 9:57 AM | Report abuse

knew it. BTW if that rumor is true. Than in all likelihood the Tom Brady story about this Dr is also true.

Posted by: alex35332 | May 20, 2010 9:57 AM | Report abuse

Wow... all this Moss hate just proves that there is no universally loved Redskins anymore...

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 20, 2010 9:47 AM

For the record, I don't think tana was ever "universally loved", people never liked the ball spin thing.

Posted by: alex35332 | May 20, 2010 10:00 AM | Report abuse

Just trying to look at the bright side…..Moss is “rehabbing” now, so if they suspend him it will allow for more time to heal fully, and he won’t be put in the position to play too hard in the preseason and possibly aggravate the knee…..just hope it won’t be for more than 4 games.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | May 20, 2010 10:01 AM | Report abuse

there is no universally loved Redskins anymore...

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 20, 2010 9:47 AM


Donny Mac!

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | May 20, 2010 9:52 AM


Funny, dude. The ink isn't even dry on his trade papers...first 3 INT game he has as a Redskin, and guys like "Sports_Guru" are gonna start giving him the JC treatment...

I mean, if there was a "trade Cooley" movement here a couple months ago, there really are no Redskins that are universally loved anymore. We probably need a SB to have anyone get the same level of revere that guys like Darrell Green and Art Monk got...

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 20, 2010 10:01 AM | Report abuse


lol... depending how old you are, you were probably the exact kind of person I was talking about yesterday RE: "The U".

Posted by: RedDMV | May 20, 2010 9:40 AM
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Sorry, but I missed your comments yesterday, Red.

I'm in my 40s and have never liked Miami. I have accepted the players we have and have liked it when they produce on the field. No complaints there. I just don't like the self-entitled attitudes their "student"-athletes come out with. Plus, I can hardly find one that speaks English. They come across as a really stupid bunch. Not exactly who I want representing the Redskins. But, of course, they are the ones that get out in front of the media.

Posted by: DC2AZ99 | May 20, 2010 10:04 AM | Report abuse

Sucks about Moss, but good thing we just picked up some guys of the future in GALLOWAY and WADE. We should be set, um, wait......

Posted by: monk811 | May 20, 2010 10:04 AM | Report abuse

According to documents obtained by ESPN, Mary Anne Catalano, the former executive assistant, identified 23 athletes during interviews with U.S. and Canadian authorities whom she said Galea treated in the U.S.

Posted by: TimmySmith36 | May 20, 2010 10:05 AM | Report abuse

Galea is alleged to have treated athletes in eight major U.S. cities last summer. His busiest destination proved to be Cleveland, where he cared for 11 athletes. According to Catalano, he also treated three athletes in New York during that time, as well as two each in Boston, Tampa, Fla., and Washington. He also visited athlete patients in Orlando, San Diego and San Francisco.

Posted by: TimmySmith36 | May 20, 2010 10:07 AM | Report abuse

Statement released by the NFL

"We obviously have a very strong interest in learning who these players are and about their involvement with any prohibited substances so that we can enforce our policies. When we have had evidence of illegal purchase, possession, or use of HGH, we have imposed discipline and are fully prepared to do so again if the facts support it."

Posted by: TimmySmith36 | May 20, 2010 10:08 AM | Report abuse

Uh-oh....I hear T.O's phone ringing...

Posted by: gixxer998 | May 20, 2010 9:03 AM

Barbra Streisand ringtone gave it away?

Think the Skins store would do a #89 jersey with "Galea" on the back?

Posted by: SMACK1 | May 20, 2010 10:09 AM | Report abuse

For the record, I don't think tana was ever "universally loved", people never liked the ball spin thing.

Posted by: alex35332 | May 20, 2010 10:00 AM


Not necessarily, but he sure seemed to be when he caught those two 4th quarter TDs in Dallas. Seemed to be when he caught that wide open bomb against the Saints a couple years back. I just find it laughable that folks turn on some of the best players who consistently produce because the team doesn't win.

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 20, 2010 10:10 AM | Report abuse

"Just trying to look at the bright side…..Moss is “rehabbing” now, so if they suspend him it will allow for more time to heal fully, and he won’t be put in the position to play too hard in the preseason and possibly aggravate the knee…..just hope it won’t be for more than 4 games.

Posted by: dlhaze1"

Moss is one of my favorite players, but be honest, he's been using HGH, at 31 how much has he got left in the tank?? Hate to say it, but it's lookin' grim, Jim..

Posted by: frak | May 20, 2010 10:10 AM | Report abuse

Typical of someone from "the U". Is it just me or do their players have an edict to cheat, play dirty, not be a team player, not respect their coaches or teammates, or not follow a team's schedule? The name of the school should be "the ME".

Posted by: DC2AZ99

Sweeping generalizations are fun:
Jim Kelly, Warren Sapp, Sean Taylor, Vinny Testaverde, Bubba Franks, Frank Gore, Edgerrin James, Andre Johnson, Ray Lewis, Bryant McKinnie, Greg Olsen, Ed Reed, Antrel Rolle, Reggie Wayne. All pretty good team players imo, and exceptional talents.

Posted by: Stu27 | May 20, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse

We probably need a SB to have anyone get the same level of revere that guys like Darrell Green and Art Monk got...

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 20, 2010 10:01 AM | Report abuse

I think a winning record might do the trick at this point.

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | May 20, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse

No Criminal Charges No Missed TIME......We all know 50% of these dudes have taken HGH in the past or at some point either in college or the pros to recover from injury or to get better stats at the NFL combine.

Posted by: MajorFacemask | May 20, 2010 10:12 AM | Report abuse

Think the Skins store would do a #89 jersey with "Galea" on the back?

Posted by: SMACK1 | May 20, 2010 10:09 AM


Better do it fast...as in NOW, because the NFL was quick to shut down the Falcons #7 "Ron Mexico" jerseys a few years back...

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 20, 2010 10:13 AM | Report abuse

Not "Tito" Santana Moss!

Posted by: mjwies11 | May 20, 2010 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Wow... all this Moss hate just proves that there is no universally loved Redskins anymore...

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 20, 2010 9:47 AM

Orakpo. For now, anyway.

Posted by: beep-beep | May 20, 2010 9:57 AM | Report abuse

London Fletcher, love him or you get concussed.

Posted by: Stu27 | May 20, 2010 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Sweeping generalizations are fun:
Jim Kelly, Warren Sapp, Sean Taylor, Vinny Testaverde, Bubba Franks, Frank Gore, Edgerrin James, Andre Johnson, Ray Lewis, Bryant McKinnie, Greg Olsen, Ed Reed, Antrel Rolle, Reggie Wayne. All pretty good team players imo, and exceptional talents.

Posted by: Stu27 | May 20, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse


Can you name anybody who came out "recently" who has made an impact?

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | May 20, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse

What's the chances the "source" is full of horse sh*t and it wasn't Moss? I know these reports are hardly ever wrong, but just trying to be optimistic!

Posted by: monk811 | May 20, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse

Major read posy above the NFL is salivating at finding out who the players involved in this case are and YES there will be serious punishments handed down. This case will change testing as we know it in the NFL.

Posted by: TimmySmith36 | May 20, 2010 10:18 AM | Report abuse

He's 31, injured and will be unavailable for at least 4 games...maybe indefinitely if indicted. SMH I guess this opens the door for a T.O. signing.

Posted by: MadeRED | May 20, 2010 10:18 AM | Report abuse

Darrion Scott pleaded guilty to child endangerment. He stuck a plastic bag over his kids head. There is a guy to hate.

Moss got caught doing what a large percentage of athletes do. After all, if you ain't cheating then you ain't trying.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 20, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse

I think a winning record might do the trick at this point.

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | May 20, 2010 10:11 AM


Apparently not...considering he was arguably the best offensive player on the only two playoff teams we've had in the last decade...

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 20, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse

So who is the other Washington player involved who is now retired?

Posted by: TimmySmith36 | May 20, 2010 10:21 AM | Report abuse

I'm gonna let the whole due process play itself out, regarding SM...you know, not declare him guilty and all........without facts and stuff....but then I'm crazy like that....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | May 20, 2010 10:21 AM | Report abuse

London Fletcher, love him or you get concussed.

Posted by: Stu27 | May 20, 2010 10:14 AM


Or as Jim Rome would say, "if you don't love London Fletcher, then something's wrong with YOU".

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 20, 2010 10:21 AM | Report abuse

I agree with brownwood, everyone forgets what he did for us. Like it or not, he's still our only legit #1 reciever. People talk about how he gets eaten up and can't break double teams. Um, there's a reason he gets double teamed all the time, CAUSE OUR OTHER RECIEVERS SUCK!!!! And how many recievers now can you name that consistently break double and triple teams on a week to week basis, there isn't many. Also, compaired to those other Miami players that were named, Santana's been kinda tame, seems to want to talk to the media, yeah he needs a speech coach, but he seems like a nice guy and wants to win. So I'll reserve my judgement on Santana until he is officially labeled guilty.

Posted by: monk811 | May 20, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse

The comparison to McNabb's Eagle teams is way off base for a number of reasons. McNabb was much younger and actually ran quite a bit. He was a dual threat QB. He is no longer a dual threat QB. Andy Reid was the coach and OC of the Eagles teams. The offense that he employed is different than Shanny. Shanny relies more on the ability to run the ball. Reid used the RB out of the backfield as pass catcher and runner. He had the ideal backs for his offense in Duce Staley and eventually Brian Westbrook. RB is defnitely not a strength of the skins. Throughout his tenure in Philly he always had a pro bowl caliber TE. Cooley is very good and about equivalent. Shanny's offense has alway revolved around strong Oline play, very good running backs, very good TEs and WRs. Right now the only thing the Skins have are the Tight Ends. And the Eagles defenses were awesome during those years. They were always in the top 10 of take away/give away differential. The Skins were 28th last year. The skins were also 18th in points allowed. While ranked high in yards allowed the defense was really a little below average overall.

Posted by: srobert1117 | May 20, 2010 10:25 AM | Report abuse

No pass given, even if you're the #1 WR on your favorite NFL team. I would'nt call it "hate" rather major dissapointment. I'm a fan of #89 but that does not excuse the use of HGH. I did state about Cushing and other high profile players getting busted, that I enjoyed seeing cheaters exposed. I'm not enjoying this in the least bit.

Posted by: sthai75 | May 20, 2010 10:26 AM | Report abuse

tampa: Ken Phillips and Brandon Merriwaether are both very promising young players, i would prefer wither of them on this team. Plus Jon Beason has only been in the league like three years.

Posted by: Stu27 | May 20, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse

Since he has that D bag agent i am going to assume Moss will get a 6-8 game suspension.

Posted by: alex35332 | May 20, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse

The comparison to McNabb's Eagle teams is way off base for a number of reasons. McNabb was much younger and actually ran quite a bit. He was a dual threat QB. He is no longer a dual threat QB. Andy Reid was the coach and OC of the Eagles teams. The offense that he employed is different than Shanny. Shanny relies more on the ability to run the ball. Reid used the RB out of the backfield as pass catcher and runner. He had the ideal backs for his offense in Duce Staley and eventually Brian Westbrook. RB is defnitely not a strength of the skins. Throughout his tenure in Philly he always had a pro bowl caliber TE. Cooley is very good and about equivalent. Shanny's offense has alway revolved around strong Oline play, very good running backs, very good TEs and WRs. Right now the only thing the Skins have are the Tight Ends. And the Eagles defenses were awesome during those years. They were always in the top 10 of take away/give away differential. The Skins were 28th last year. The skins were also 18th in points allowed. While ranked high in yards allowed the defense was really a little below average overall.

Posted by: srobert1117 | May 20, 2010 10:25 AM | Report abuse


"I don't like that call...... not a very good call"

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | May 20, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

There is no test for HGH in the NFL and if the FED's don't name Moss there is nothing the NFL can legally do about it!!!!!! Unless change some employment laws, retroactively at that.

Posted by: MajorFacemask | May 20, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

I'm not asking Moss be given a free pass. If he did it I want him to pay, but the first little whiff of his name and y'all turn against the man and start attacking the "U". I mean, let's be civilized, we're not EAGLES fans, I thought we were better than that.

Posted by: monk811 | May 20, 2010 10:31 AM | Report abuse

So I'm the first to say that professional athletes should never be placed on a pedistool and are hardly ever great role models, but I'm far more dissapointed in the fact that I have to explain to my 4yr old once again (Tiger Woods earlier this year) that his favorite Redskins football player "#89" as he refers to him may not be on the field (or the team for that matter) b/c he too has "cheated".

I feel for little ones these days. Gone are the days of Pistol Pete, Larry Bird, Cal Ripkin and the like. Professional sports (and politics for that matter) have become nothing more than a breeding ground for malcontent, selfishness and dissapointment.

So very disssapointing!!!

Posted by: ZornInMySide | May 20, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

tampa: Ken Phillips and Brandon Merriwaether are both very promising young players, i would prefer wither of them on this team. Plus Jon Beason has only been in the league like three years.

Posted by: Stu27 | May 20, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse

Reaching a bit Stu, but I will give you those 3. Point being, the "U" isn't producing pro players like they used to.

While I'm partial to the Gators, watch out for USF players in the NFL moving forward.

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | May 20, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Now DC2AZ99 and Tampa. Find me another school that puts out the same amount of NFL players with equal talent but no perceived malcontents, bad apples, or off field issues. Here I'll start yous out USC... oh wait never mind...

Posted by: Stu27 | May 20, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

I'm not down with attacking the "U", or Moss's selfishness , either..It's not like you can trust nuthn' anymo', anyway, is it?? "Ahh, yess..I remember "Trust", a cute little bird that flew the coop around the time that I was born..."

Posted by: frak | May 20, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

SM is one of my favorite players but I have no room for cheaters. I'm willing to wait to hear SM's side of the story and reserve judgment until then. After that, if the NFL determines that he took HGH, they should give him the appropriate suspension, which appears to be 4 games unless they plan on making an example out of him. Brownwood, that is not hating...that is principle. MajorFacemask, didn't anyone teach you that the 'everybody's doing it' excuse is a poor one?

Posted by: amaranthpa | May 20, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Oh boy..............He will get four games.

Posted by: croftonpost | May 20, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse

So I'm the first to say that professional athletes should never be placed on a pedistool and are hardly ever great role models, but I'm far more dissapointed in the fact that I have to explain to my 4yr old once again (Tiger Woods earlier this year) that his favorite Redskins football player "#89" as he refers to him may not be on the field (or the team for that matter) b/c he too has "cheated".

I feel for little ones these days. Gone are the days of Pistol Pete, Larry Bird, Cal Ripkin and the like. Professional sports (and politics for that matter) have become nothing more than a breeding ground for malcontent, selfishness and dissapointment.

So very disssapointing!!!

Posted by: ZornInMySide | May 20, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse


Bitter, party of one.... you table is now available.... Bitter, party of one.

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | May 20, 2010 10:40 AM | Report abuse

Im a WVU alumni I unfortunately know all to about USF. Still cant believe the drop off the George Selvie had, i personally would have loved for the skins to grab him.

Posted by: Stu27 | May 20, 2010 10:40 AM | Report abuse

Now when I say, beep beep, I want everyone to join me on the new thread.

beep beep

Or as we say at the U, don't nobody not be wit' me.

Posted by: beep-beep | May 20, 2010 10:40 AM | Report abuse

Major the FEDS have to name all 23 players involved in joint US/Canadian indictment of Dr. Galea. Those players could very well be subpoenaed to testify in the case. They have already said they are not looking to press charges against the players involved but in order to convict Galea the names will be released. The NFL is a different story HGH is a BANNED substance any player known to have used HGH faces suspension under current league rules period.

Posted by: TimmySmith36 | May 20, 2010 10:40 AM | Report abuse

I know these reports are hardly ever wrong, but just trying to be optimistic!

Posted by: monk811 | May 20, 2010 10:16 AM

You said it yourself. I'm rarely ever optimistic when a professional athlete's name and HGH are used together in a FEDERAL report. If there were a jersey I would have owned it would have been #89. I'm a fan of any player that leaves it all on the field and SM did that.

Posted by: sthai75 | May 20, 2010 10:42 AM | Report abuse

Throughout his tenure in Philly he always had a pro bowl caliber TE.

Posted by: srobert1117 | May 20, 2010 10:25 AM | Report abuse

Your breakdown of McNabbs situation in Philly was astute except this line.

At through most of McNabbs career they did not have a elite TE. He had good blocking TE's who were slightly above average recievers but never anyone near the caliber of Cooley or Davis.

Brent Celek is a good TE and probably the best receiving TE they have had. Before him it was LJ Smith, very average. Before that it was that Mormon dude, cant remember his name. But none of those compare to Cooley.

Posted by: alex35332 | May 20, 2010 10:44 AM | Report abuse

There is no test for HGH in the NFL and if the FED's don't name Moss there is nothing the NFL can legally do about it!!!!!! Unless change some employment laws, retroactively at that.

Posted by: MajorFacemask | May 20, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

First of all, he doesn't have to have used HGH to be punished by the league, so the lack of testing has nothing to do with it. Illegal purchase or possession is enough. And the CBA allows Goodell to punish 'tana even if he isn't "named" by the feds. I'm no labor lawyer, but I'm pretty sure that that's sufficient authority.

Posted by: rbpalmer | May 20, 2010 10:45 AM | Report abuse

AND there is no CBA

Posted by: alex35332 | May 20, 2010 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Steinbog on ESPN First Take right now...

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 20, 2010 10:51 AM | Report abuse

AND there is no CBA

Posted by: alex35332 | May 20, 2010 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Yes, there is. This is the last year that it's in effect, since the owners opted out of what would have been the final year, 2011.

Posted by: rbpalmer | May 20, 2010 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Major the FEDS have to name all 23 players involved in joint US/Canadian indictment of Dr. Galea. Those players could very well be subpoenaed to testify in the case. They have already said they are not looking to press charges against the players involved but in order to convict Galea the names will be released. The NFL is a different story HGH is a BANNED substance any player known to have used HGH faces suspension under current league rules period.

Posted by: TimmySmith36 | May 20, 2010 10:40 AM

LOL- Show me the NFL Policy regarding HGH Testing, then read the post above which says the FED's intend to only use Numbers and not Names. Law Schools are useful, Vinny.

Posted by: MajorFacemask | May 20, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

This was in the open back in December, and up here two days ago.

Guess people don't keep up much.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | May 20, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

I just hope he mans up and doesnt roll on a bunch of other NFLers, but they already have a list of people he has worked with...I am not sure how much this is going to hurt us, granted Moss is our best WR, but as Red said earlier, not like he has been lighting it up recently. I say we give TO a workout, he did catch 80 balls last year...

Posted by: mhartz1 | May 20, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

TO talk.... puhleeze. We don't need the 8th grader.

Bringing in TO would be like the paniced signing Taylor.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | May 20, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

People are really gonna freak when the other shoe drops....

Sure is intersting that there are 4 viable RB candidates on the roster isn't it???

Is SM89 really one of the famous faces of the League as described (briefly before the tweet got pulled) by Jeremy Jarmon? Or is a famous face of the League more famous than SM89?

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | May 20, 2010 1:04 PM | Report abuse

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