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Shanahan takes measured, 'wait-and-see' approach on Moss

Redskins Coach Mike Shanahan is taking a wait-and-see approach with regard to wide receiver Santana Moss, whose name has been linked to a Canadian doctor facing federal charges for smuggling and distributing human growth hormone.

"Let's just kind of wait and see before we throw him underneath the bus," Shanahan told a group of reporters Thursday afternoon after a speaking engagement with the Loudoun County Chamber of Commerce. Sources say that Moss is one of the athletes treated by Anthony Galea, who, according to court documents, allegedly supplied some athletes with HGH.

"Just because someone is associated with a doctor does not mean a person is guilty," Shanahan said. Shanahan said he has not been contacted by the league, nor has he
spoken with Moss. He said he planned to talk with the receiver "at the right time."

"I think we're getting a little ahead of ourselves. Let's just wait," Shanahan said. "I don't know anything about it. Just what I've read. We'll just have to wait and see."

If the league ultimately decides that Moss has used a banned substance and has violated the league's drug policy, he would be subject to a four-game suspension. Shanahan said it's too early to make any contingency plans just yet.

"If somebody is guilty of something, they pay the price," he said. "We're going to let the due process take care of itself. As we've talked about before, let's not think a guy is guilty just because his name has been thrown [out]."

By Rick Maese  |  May 20, 2010; 3:00 PM ET
Categories:  Mike Shanahan , Santana Moss , wide receivers  
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Comments

Me, too, I think.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | May 20, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Damn, Santana ....

Posted by: jiza32 | May 20, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Well Galloway signing looks better now...

Posted by: chrislarry | May 20, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

I don't get it. Did Santana admit to the feds that he took HGH or that he just received it?

What is there to wait and see for, the official federal release of names? When is that supposed to happen?

Posted by: Predator48 | May 20, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

However, rules are rules, and Santana broke them. He has to face the consequences.

Posted by: RedDMV | May 20, 2010 2:56 PM

Red, she wasn't talking specifically to this case...But talking up generally about the whole PED list and it's creators and if they really care about the people affected - the atheletes....

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 20, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

holdonholdon.

I thot the player already admitted to the feds what he did, that it's coroborrated (sp?!) and everything.

... that the only thing we were missing was a name. And since Moss has been identified and doesn't deny it - well?

Now, I can see not announcing what your moves are going to be as an organization. And/or that you're going to wait for confirmation from the league.

It would really behove (sp again!) Moss to fess up already.. or just outright deny. It's stupid at this point.

Posted by: DikShuttle | May 20, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone stopped for a moment and considered what this circus would look like if Zorn and Cerrato were still "In charge".

I can only laugh at the possibilities. Panic, waxing philosophical, talking WAY too much.

It would probably resemble something like the Michelle Obama photo op yesterday when the little girl admitted her mom had no papers.

"Coach...did you have any suspicion about Santana?"

Zorn: "Yes! I mean NO! I mean, what we have here is a failure to communicate"

Cerrato: "Yeah man, it's a deal where you go, you know, you go, that little guy gets hit hard and stuff like that. And when you take that stuff week in and week out, that deal becomes one of those things where something may go wrong in a deal like that thing there and stuff..."

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | May 20, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Welcome to DC, Donovan.

Posted by: Alan4 | May 20, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

That’s the point I was making……the lawyer guy said they were just using it to get better, not break the rules….just pointing out how stupid his statement is.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | May 20, 2010 3:06 PM

How is lawyer's statement "stupid"? Do you know the charges Galea faces? Do you know what the government has to prove to convict? Doctors can prescribe HGH to a patient in connection with either (1) "treatment of a disease" or (2) "other recognized medical condition." So the lawyer's statement makes total sense to me.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 20, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone stopped for a moment and considered what this circus would look like if Zorn and Cerrato were still "In charge"....

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | May 20, 2010 3:30 PM


Do you honestly beleive Zorn was ever really "in charge"?

Zorn was neutered and humiliated last year--and I'll always love him for taking Vinny down with him. If he'd just quit, Vinny might still be here.

Posted by: Alan4 | May 20, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

4th, of course the creators (doctors?) don't care. They're in it to make a buck.


If they did, they would find alternate means to treat their patients.

It's a win/win/lose/lose for both the athlete and the doctors that treat them.

Posted by: RedDMV | May 20, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

The wait and see approach: Wait 4 games, see Santana week 5.

Posted by: iH8dallas | May 20, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

How is lawyer's statement "stupid"? Do you know the charges Galea faces? Do you know what the government has to prove to convict? Doctors can prescribe HGH to a patient in connection with either (1) "treatment of a disease" or (2) "other recognized medical condition." So the lawyer's statement makes total sense to me.
Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 20, 2010 3:33 PM

So if I ever get busted for weed (in a non-medicinal state), my lawyer can just tell the DA that I didn’t mean to break the law/rules; that I was just using the weed to feel better/get high…….so therefore it’s okay.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | May 20, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Jeeziz, Galea, Landis, USC, Unga..

,Ballot Chads,9-11, WMDs, the Banks..

Read my new book, " Trickle Down Lie-O-Nomics: American Culture On The Skids"...

Posted by: frak | May 20, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Zorn had his skirt lifted for the fraud that he is.

Dude is collecting two checks from two NFL teams. I will not shed a single tear for Jim Zorn.

And just because it's been a minute:

F Jim Zorn

Posted by: RedDMV | May 20, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Learned an interesting point here is that as far as I know Galea is not licensed in the states to provide that type of treatment. I think everyone should read the details of the case that have already been released it CLEARLY states that the player from Washington (reportedly Santana Moss) received shots of HGH to his knees as well as actogen. Both are banned under league rules.

Posted by: TimmySmith36 | May 20, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Do you honestly beleive Zorn was ever really "in charge"?

Posted by: Alan4 | May 20, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

No, hence my use of quotes around the term "In charge"

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | May 20, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

F Jim Zorn

Posted by: RedDMV | May 20, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

cosign

Posted by: iH8dallas | May 20, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Zorn >>> Vinny.

8 days a week.

Vinny had a decade to shape this team. Vinny claimed he gave Zorn the "playoff team."

Now Vinny and most of that team are gone.

Zorn was just passing through, like a half dozen other coaches over Vinny's tenure. I don't blame Zorn one iota.

Posted by: Alan4 | May 20, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Level of power has nothing to do with atrocious play-calling.

Posted by: RedDMV | May 20, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

I'm sure someone has posted this already, but players are not just pressured to perform. When they're hurt they're under great pressure to get well fast. So it's sort of hypocritical for a league to push guys to get back on the field and then punish them when they try anything to do it. It sort of reminds me of the way the NFL punishes defensive players for leading with their head or topping off a defenseless offensive player, etc. Then the NFL Network shows the exact same hits to get us pumped for the game. As with most things, it's never as cut and dry as it seems.

Posted by: mack1 | May 20, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Whatever happened to physical therapy?

Posted by: iH8dallas | May 20, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Agree though about Vinny Cerrato. I would never forget how this place was jumping when he was fired/resigned.

Posted by: RedDMV | May 20, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Zorn called idiotic plays because he didn't trust the ishtty roster he was given. No O-line. Lazy rookie wideouts. Mediocrity all around.

Shanahan didn't trust that roster either, that's why he gutted it.

Posted by: Alan4 | May 20, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Vinny getting fired was our Superbowl

Posted by: iH8dallas | May 20, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Cerrato was an asshat

Posted by: TimmySmith36 | May 20, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Zorn called idiotic plays because he didn't trust the ishtty roster he was given. No O-line. Lazy rookie wideouts. Mediocrity all around.

Shanahan didn't trust that roster either, that's why he gutted it.

Posted by: Alan4 | May 20, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

He called idiotic plays b/c he is a p*ssy and a terrible play caller.

Posted by: iH8dallas | May 20, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

In a way, you can say this is partly (or mostly?) due to the previous crew.

I mean, if they didn't put Moss in all kinds of unecessarily hazardous situations (i.e. a walking target), then he wouldn't have needed the extra mending...

It doesn't excuse it (he coulda 'Portis'ed it). But it does explain it.

anyway - ... audi.

Posted by: DikShuttle | May 20, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Who do you think the other Washington player is???

Posted by: TimmySmith36 | May 20, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

I mean, if they didn't put Moss in all kinds of unecessarily hazardous situations (i.e. a walking target), then he wouldn't have needed the extra mending...

It doesn't excuse it (he coulda 'Portis'ed it). But it does explain it.

anyway - ... audi.

Posted by: DikShuttle | May 20, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Isn't pro football in and of itself a hazardous situation?

Posted by: iH8dallas | May 20, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

alan, its been stated that JZ had about 7 or 8 formations that he ran pass patterns from....you don't think that with like an hour of film study, other teams caught on??

I mean, lets call stuff what it is, we have NO IDEA what MK/DT can do, because of their mismanagement by the previous coaching staff....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | May 20, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

So if I ever get busted for weed (in a non-medicinal state), my lawyer can just tell the DA that I didn’t mean to break the law/rules; that I was just using the weed to feel better/get high…….so therefore it’s okay.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | May 20, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse
__________

With all due respect, don't try and be a "street corner lawyer". Defense of complex federal felony charges can be very complicated and requires a well-thought out strategy. You can't compare that to a joe-average state misdemeanor pot bust. Galea's lawyer didn't say anything out of the ordinary or that didn't make sense given the circumstances.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | May 20, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Zorn called idiotic plays because he didn't trust the ishtty roster he was given. No O-line. Lazy rookie wideouts. Mediocrity all around.

Posted by: Alan4 | May 20, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

You're forgetting the fact that Sherm Lewis called better games(with an injury depleted roster) after about 2 weeks of getting to know the personnel.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | May 20, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Zorn made a lot of headscratching calls, but he made some gutsy calls too.

I liked some of his 4th down go-fors, but most of the time he was here we had ZERO run game and no O-line. Our kicker suddenly couldn't kick a 23 yarder when a game was on the line. Our average QB was put in a position to have to be the ONLY threat on the team.

I'm not denying Zorn's playcalling was suspect at times, but his players did him absolutely NO favors.

Posted by: Alan4 | May 20, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Right on MS.

He isn't guilty just because of association. If they find he took something against the rules, he'll pay the price - but I'm tired of the tar and feathering we do to people in this country before they've had their day in court, or in this case an specifics have really come out.

Posted by: shaunsherman12 | May 20, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Right on MS.

He isn't guilty just because of association. If they find he took something against the rules, he'll pay the price - but I'm tired of the tar and feathering we do to people in this country before they've had their day in court, or in this case any specifics have really come out.

Posted by: shaunsherman12 | May 20, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

If HGH was supposed to make him taller, didn't work. He's like 5'9"

Posted by: dpc2003 | May 20, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan may say he's doing the "wait and see" -- but a control freak like Shanahan isn't waiting to look at his options.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 20, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

dpc,
Now that's "a measured approach."

Posted by: _Stumped_ | May 20, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

santana moss is a beast, why are all these people beating up on him already when he hasn't even been implicated in taking HGH. WTF.

Posted by: BMACattack | May 20, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

2009 has been erased from my memory. Too painful.

Posted by: iH8dallas | May 20, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

The swinging gate.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | May 20, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

santana moss is a beast, why are all these people beating up on him already when he hasn't even been implicated in taking HGH. WTF.

Posted by: BMACattack | May 20, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

If your wife catches you with a hooker in the car, you may not have been doing anything. You could have actually been giving her a ride to the store because it's raining. I'm just saying it doesn't look good, you would have some explaining to do.

Posted by: iH8dallas | May 20, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: dlhaze1 | May 20, 2010 3:38 PM

Apples and oranges. Federal law (under which Galea is charged) permits the prescription of HGH for medical treatment.

Posted by: TimmySmith36 | May 20, 2010 3:41 PM

Timmy it is true he is not licensed to practice med in US or authorized to even work here. That's the chink in his armor. But I'm sure he'd rather take a hit for the unlicensed "practice of medicine" and working without a VISA over the illegal distribution of drugs.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 20, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Greg, Zorn was hired as a HC before he was ready. I don't blame him for taking the job. He should have been coaching QBs, and Double G (who's now, coincidentally sporting a Super Bowl ring) should have been given the opportunity at HC.

I have a hard time blaming Zorn for mismanagement that stems from bad decisions and constant interference from his bosses.

Posted by: Alan4 | May 20, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

If your wife catches you with a hooker in the car, you may not have been doing anything. You could have actually been giving her a ride to the store because it's raining. I'm just saying it doesn't look good, you would have some explaining to do.

Posted by: iH8dallas

I'm thinking Tiger Woods could have used your advice ...

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 20, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

If your wife catches you with a hooker in the car, you may not have been doing anything. You could have actually been giving her a ride to the store because it's raining. I'm just saying it doesn't look good, you would have some explaining to do.

Posted by: iH8dallas
___________

Wasn't that basically Eddie Murphy's excuse when he got caught with the transvestite years ago?

Posted by: skinsfan713 | May 20, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

so you don't blame zorn for running a putrid offense, that HE came up with, and you don't blame him for ignoring FDavis for a year and 1/2??

I mean, didn't we learn that, guess what, surprise, surprise, FDavis is actually a pretty good football player??

How do we know that the same doesn't hold true for MK/DT

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | May 20, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

I have a hard time blaming Zorn for mismanagement that stems from bad decisions and constant interference from his bosses.

Posted by: Alan4

Zorn was never fit to be an NFL HC. Never will be. As much as the owner and his sidekick were bad, Zorn still managed to dig his own grave.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 20, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

The swinging gate.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | May 20, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

I just took some Prozac

Posted by: iH8dallas | May 20, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Lets take a closer look

Here is what it states in the court Documents
Player A = Santana Moss

Received Injections with a cocktail of substances, including Actovegin and Nutropin. Catalano (Galea's personal assistant) said the HGH injections were designed to help regenerate cartilage growth.

It looks like charges have already been filed and based on court documents it is now in front of a grand jury. If the grand jury decides there is enough evidence to proceed the any documents will become a matter of public record. Any players named in the documents will be available as is routine in any court case.

HGH is listed as a banned substance under league policy. Actovegin while not being listed specifically could fall under "any other substance thought to be performance enhancing".

Posted by: TimmySmith36 | May 20, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

If you hire someone who specializes in roofing to build your entire house, and he screws up your foundation... I blame YOU, not him. If you're running the operation, it's your job to put the right people in the right place.

As I said, Zorn wasn't ready to be a HC.

And let's put this in historical context... name the successful coaches under Snyder/Ceratto. See a trend? Even if every one of those coaches are somehow certified idiots, I blame Snyder/Ceratto for hiring them.

Posted by: Alan4 | May 20, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Paging Marko Mithchell, Oh wait, we cut you, Never mind, My Bad Fools.......

Posted by: ThrowItToMyTeam | May 20, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse


Here's what sucks. Santana Moss, the closest thing to a Dallas Killer the Redskins have will be out opening day, and starting at QB, the man who was devoured by the 'pokes twice at the end of the season last year.

Posted by: TheCork | May 20, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Alan4 didnt you believe Jason Campbell was an elite QB as well? So let me get this straight Zorn was a great coach and Campbell was an elite QB? 4-12 enough said

Posted by: TimmySmith36 | May 20, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Thank goodness this offense is designed around the ground game, and the TE position is a strength on offense. Losing Moss for a few games shouldn't be that big of a deal.

Posted by: TWISI | May 20, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

How is lawyer's statement "stupid"? Do you know the charges Galea faces? Do you know what the government has to prove to convict? Doctors can prescribe HGH to a patient in connection with either (1) "treatment of a disease" or (2) "other recognized medical condition." So the lawyer's statement makes total sense to me.

Posted by: learnedhand1

Dunno if you’re a barrister or just play one on RI. But, I have questions.

1. Is there any illegality associated with taking HGH prescribed by a doctor?
2. Do they need Santana and other’s testimony to convict the doctor, if it IS illegal.
3. Can they, by giving the recipients immunity, force them to testify under oath, and not claim the 5th?
4. Otherwise, if I’m Moss’s lawyer, I’d just shut my face, and if he can, refuse to testify.

Posted by: TheCork | May 20, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

As I said, Zorn wasn't ready to be a HC.

Alan, fine using your logic against you, he was a qb 'guru' right....how'd that work out??

You've YET to acknowledge that sitting FDavis was his deal, and it turned out to be galactically stupid on his part...he was in charge of FDavis, and refused to use him....

He was also in charge of MKelly, who for some reason got send on GO-ROUTES, instead of the 2 faster receivers, SM/DT...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | May 20, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Paging Marko Mithchell, Oh wait, we cut you, Never mind, My Bad Fools.......

Posted by: ThrowItToMyTeam

Too true. If ONLY this team had Marko Mitchell, Leigh Torrence and Shawn Springs, they'd have won it all last year.

Posted by: TheCork | May 20, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Alan4 didnt you believe Jason Campbell was an elite QB as well? So let me get this straight Zorn was a great coach and Campbell was an elite QB? 4-12 enough said

Posted by: TimmySmith36 | May 20, 2010 4:30 PM

Textbook strawman! Classic... thanks for the laugh!

I never associated the words "elite" or "great" with either of them. But I'll bet you any amount of money they will both find much greater success in their new assigmnents... and that's an indictment of the dysfunction Snyder and Vinny have visited upon this franchise over the past decade.

Posted by: Alan4 | May 20, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Too true. If ONLY this team had Marko Mitchell, Leigh Torrence and Shawn Springs, they'd have won it all last year.

I don't care who you are, Corky just made a funny....nicely done...and 100 percent agreed...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | May 20, 2010 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Cork Galea was not approved to provide that type of treatment in the U.S. He and his personal assistant are accused of smuggling these drugs into the U.S. since he is not authorized to even have them in his possession. In fact it goes even further since he sent his assistant to Germany to retrieve the drugs.

On to Moss Player A = presumably Moss has already cooperated with federal authorities admitting to receiving treatments from Galea. It is said to be at least 50 treatments over 2 years for a total of over $50,000.

Posted by: TimmySmith36 | May 20, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Fat Albert beeps

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 20, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

1. Is there any illegality associated with taking HGH prescribed by a doctor?
2. Do they need Santana and other’s testimony to convict the doctor, if it IS illegal.
3. Can they, by giving the recipients immunity, force them to testify under oath, and not claim the 5th?
4. Otherwise, if I’m Moss’s lawyer, I’d just shut my face, and if he can, refuse to testify.


Posted by: TheCork | May 20, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse
___________

1. YES. Galea apparently wasn't a doctor here in the states and therefore wouldn't be able to prescribe medicine - it would just be drug distribution and illegal practice of medicine.
2. They may or may not need him depending on what other evidence they have. I guaranty you that all of the evidence hasn't yet surfaced in the WaPo, so who knows.
3. Yes, they could grant him immunity and thereby force him to testify. There are different types of immunity, but the answer is yes.
4. Perhaps that'd be the appropriate strategy. The feds might not be interested in Moss. Normally they go for the source of the drug rings, etc., not the end users. However, sometimes they get a burr up their arses and will go after the celebrity/athlete (hello, Barry Bonds).

Learnedhand (good name, by the way), do you disagree?

Posted by: skinsfan713 | May 20, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

The Doctor:

1. It is illegal to practice medicine without a license issued by the state.

2. It is illegal to import drugs for sale without an import license and paying the import fees.

The Patient:

1. It is not illegal to take prescribed HGH for a particular ailment from a legally licensed medical practioner.

The Player:

1. It is illegal to take any substance that is considered an enhancing drug of any kind BY THE NFL.

2. The Player will not be prosecuted by the Judiciary.

3. The Player will be subjected to suspension by the League Office for violating League Rules.

4. The Player will probably asked to be a witness to the violations of the Doctor as stated above.

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | May 20, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

I never associated the words "elite" or "great" with either of them. But I'll bet you any amount of money they will both find much greater success in their new assigmnents... and that's an indictment of the dysfunction Snyder and Vinny have visited upon this franchise over the past decade.

Posted by: Alan4 | May 20, 2010 4:37 PM

Way to call their BS, Alan4. I mean, you said Campbell wasnt the problem, so, you have to consider yourself fair game for any and all attempts to discredit you. Saying Campbell wasnt the problem last year is like saying some of Vinnie's picks worked out - people hate to hear that, especially when, after watching another horrible game, they jumped on their pcs and hit RI to rail about "why didn't Campbell just throw a few bombs for TDs?" "He's holding the ball too long - gotta just let that bomb go!" "People were wide open in the endzone the whole game!" "Why'd he fumble on that 7th sack?! The 5th one was a much harder hit!"

So, you're challenging their "football knowledge" which is based on the same rudimentary understanding of the game that many of us possessed as 8 year olds: Team=Good, QB=Good, Coach=Good.

O Line=?...which one is that?
Playcalling=?... play no work good?
Scheme/Formation=?... But Coach GOOD!!! Formation all look same! Brain hurting! Time for nap!

so, yeah, the WHOLE thing was the problem. They would just prefer you go along with their narrative of how Campbell stunk, Gibbs was great, Vinnie stunk, Danny's evil, which leaves a whole lot of questions in logic.

So, have fun.

Posted by: Thinker_ | May 20, 2010 8:27 PM | Report abuse

Paging Marko Mithchell, Oh wait, we cut you, Never mind, My Bad Fools.......

Posted by: ThrowItToMyTeam

Too true. If ONLY this team had Marko Mitchell, Leigh Torrence and Shawn Springs, they'd have won it all last year.

Posted by: TheCork | May 20, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse
You need to take that thing outta your AZZ , you know the Cork !

Posted by: ThrowItToMyTeam | May 20, 2010 9:08 PM | Report abuse

Prime example of why you should never burn bridges. T.O. would be a shoe-in if he weren't a jacka$$ in Philly.

Posted by: MadeRED | May 21, 2010 2:46 AM | Report abuse

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