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Setting up the Bye 'Week'

It's a late and kind of short bye week (really only five days of darkness in Ashburn), so we'll be dialing back with fewer posts until Monday, when the Sprint to Dec. 28 begins.

Jason "Jasno" La Canfora will be chatting today, as will Mark "Mark" Maske. Maske is up at 11, Jasno at 2.

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One criticical area the team will address this week is in-game communication between Jim Zorn and Jason Campbell, as Barry Svrluga writes today.

Campbell was the only one who couldn't hear Zorn, and the speaker in his helmet had to be replaced during the timeout. It then worked for a few plays, Zorn said, but went out again.
"It was unbelievable," Zorn said. "Our guys work really hard to try to make that a flawless and seamless operation. But at a critical time in the game, I don't want to have to worry about it, and it happened. And it just didn't happen. It continued to happen."

Zorn and his staff will meet this week, take a deep breath, and assess what's working and what isn't. Obviously, three of the last seven opponents are teams that have played the Redskins before.

"Obviously, we're going to have to come up with some answers to some things from an X's-and-O's standpoint, and also from an assignment standpoint because other teams are going to see what happened" Monday, guard Pete Kendall said.
Through nine weeks, the Redskins have the 10th-ranked offense in the NFL and the fourth-best defense, both based on total yards. But they can't score consistently, ranking in the bottom fourth of the league in points per game. And after the Steelers' seven-sack, two-interception performance Monday night in which they effectively slowed the Redskins' previously powerful rushing game and simultaneously eliminated deep passes, there could be a template for other teams to follow.
"Part of what goes on during the week here is self-scouting and trying to determine if we've fallen into any predictable patterns," Kendall said. "The other thing I know about this league is you're going to see something until you stop it. . . . There are lessons to be learned."

Which leads me to wonder, what do you think should be the team's biggest concern heading into the final seven games of the regular season?

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Maske reports that the NFL will take another look at the issue of staph infections, appointing a group of outside experts to determine whether the league is doing all it can do. You'll recall that the Redskins were out front on this, prompted in part by Brandon Noble's infection. The team took preventative measures a little over two years ago.
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Steinberg has one last look at the "Monday Night Football" scene at FedEx.
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Maintain the jibba and the jabba and keep checking here. We'll be working the phones.

By Cindy Boren  |  November 5, 2008; 8:18 AM ET
 
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The Truth has spoken.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | November 5, 2008 9:20 AM | Report abuse

FIRST time Clinton didn't break 100 in a while, also the playcalling on both sides was bad.

Posted by: kpayn17 | November 5, 2008 9:20 AM | Report abuse

Watched Jeff George, Redskins starting quarterback, dragged down the field by his foot while his offensive line watched helplessly. SHAME FACTOR: 9.2

Watched the Steelers humiliate the Redskins on national television while their fans took over FedEx field, exposing both the 6-3 team as a total fraud -- as well as the fans and the money-grubbing ownership. SHAME FACTOR: 9.4

Yep, worse than Jeff George.

That game was the beginning of the end for the Skins. Confidence is everything, and the Skins can't be confident in their lines, their coaching, their equipment, their quarterback -- or even their fans. At home. A silent count at home? Yep, game over. These Skins will finish 9-7 and miss the playoffs.

Posted by: diesel_skins_ | November 5, 2008 9:21 AM | Report abuse

What's all this italization?

Posted by: Gweez | November 5, 2008 9:25 AM | Report abuse

WOW diesel_skins_. We will be better than 9-7 and will make the playoff.

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | November 5, 2008 9:25 AM | Report abuse

Ital indicated an excerpt from the story that is linked....

Posted by: CindyBoren | November 5, 2008 9:29 AM | Report abuse

Watched the Steelers humiliate the Redskins on national television while their fans took over FedEx field, exposing both the 6-3 team as a total fraud -- as well as the fans and the money-grubbing ownership. SHAME FACTOR: 9.4

Game. Set. Match...you win. Moron of the day.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | November 5, 2008 9:30 AM | Report abuse

I will take 9-7 with a first year HC

Posted by: alex35332 | November 5, 2008 9:31 AM | Report abuse

We do not need Hall, for one he sucks and two he is a cancer in the locker room.

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 5, 2008 9:31 AM | Report abuse

Anyone think DeAngelo Hall would add some depth at CB. At least he can hold onto picks? He was just released by the raiders, though he is pretty expensive.

Posted by: skinball77 | November 5, 2008 9:31 AM | Report abuse

Game. Set. Match...you win. Moron of the day.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | November 5, 2008 9:30 AM

Greg,

You mean he wins dumb a$$ of the day!

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 5, 2008 9:32 AM | Report abuse

What has DHall done to earn the label "cancer"?

Posted by: skinball77 | November 5, 2008 9:33 AM | Report abuse

The whole bloody thing is in italics.

Posted by: mack1 | November 5, 2008 9:39 AM | Report abuse

1) Hall won't be expensive. Since he was released, another team won't have to pick up his contract unles the claim him off waivers. He'll clear waivers and then take what he can get.

2) DON'T SIGN HIM!!!

Posted by: Original_etrod | November 5, 2008 9:43 AM | Report abuse

HALL CAN BE HAD CHEAP ON WAIVERS, WITH SOME RISK
Posted by Mike Florio on November 5, 2008, 9:40 a.m. EST
As the Raiders prepare to cut cornerback DeAngelo Hall (we hear there’s a 99 percent chance it happens on Wednesday), the question for any team interested in his services is whether to put in a waivers claim, or take their chances on winning a potential bidding war via midseason free agency.

His salary for 2008 is only $1 million; that equates to only $470,588 for a rest-of-year rental.

But there’s a catch. If Hall suffers a serious injury, that $16 million in unpaid bonus money becomes guaranteed.

So who’d take such a chance? We can think of one guy who’s pulling out all the stops in an effort to propel his team toward a Super Bowl title.

Jerry Jones, owner of the Cowboys.

Stay tuned.

This should end the talk on Hall could you imagine the Skins giving up 16 million to this bum if he got hurt.

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 5, 2008 9:43 AM | Report abuse

Didn't Hall have words/have to be restrained from his coach on the Atlanta sidelines?

I don't know anything other than that, but what I do know is that he's too expensive, and too overrated. No thanks. More flash, than substance. He's been getting turned around all year long.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | November 5, 2008 9:43 AM | Report abuse

I like our D more than I like our WR's. I think a 3rd WR is what we need to get for 1 year.

Posted by: alex35332 | November 5, 2008 9:44 AM | Report abuse

Cyn my whole screen is italicized including every ones posts. Is that just me?

Posted by: Gweez | November 5, 2008 9:45 AM | Report abuse

Gweez,

No, they quoted us all in the article.

Posted by: Original_etrod | November 5, 2008 9:45 AM | Report abuse

From Shefter,

Al Davis spent big in the offseason on cornerback DeAngelo Hall and wideout Javon Walker.

A report in the San Franisco Chronicle Wednesday says the Raiders have waived Hall, meaning the team paid him $8 million for eight games. He was also due $16.5 million next season. Hall led the Raiders with three interceptions but got burned frequently for big gains.

Considering they signed him to a deal that could have reached $70 million over seven years, the team apparently decided to cut its losses in preparation for dealing with other players. That could include working out a long-term deal with cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha, a league source told the paper.

A report on ESPN says Davis sent his staff a list of at least a dozen players to evaluate how waiving them would affect the Raiders' salary cap situation.

Among those players is Walker, who received an $11 million signing bonus before the season and has just 13 catches for 169 yards and one touchdown on the year.

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 5, 2008 9:51 AM | Report abuse

Ah thanks Etrod. I'd like my name in the byline please.

Posted by: Gweez | November 5, 2008 9:51 AM | Report abuse

I see no italicized text anywhere on the page. How about this?

NO on DeAngelo Hall. We already have a dude coming to help us at the CB position, his name is Shawn Springs.

The D is not the problem with this team right now.

Where we appear to need help at the moment, WR, well, we have a couple of kids who some of us thought might be able to step up and lend a hand, but one of them can't seem to find their way onto the field, and the other one isn't much help yet...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | November 5, 2008 9:52 AM | Report abuse

Gweez, careful what you wish for. Most of us have learned the hard way to opt OUT of receiving Post Bonus Points as reimbursement for our work up here. Don't say I didn't warn ya.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | November 5, 2008 9:54 AM | Report abuse

I'm in favor of making a run at Javon Walker if he becomes available. If he is willing to play for us at the veteran minimum, he's worth the risk. He could walk in here today and be no worse than the 3rd best WR on our roster. He's knows the West Coast offense and should be good for at least a few catches a game. If it doesn't work out, we can cut him. Low risk, with a potential for high reward.

Posted by: Skins1 | November 5, 2008 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Just to clarify why there were so many steelers fans and why they were so loud:

1) People move to the DC/Metro area to make money. This in turn brings people to the city with different ties to different teams.

2) The Steelers are a storied franchise, are coming off a Super Bowl three years ago, and their Offense showed up in the second half while ours was inept.

3) The steelers and skins scrimmaged every year in the preseason up until recently

4) 23 unanswered points can deflate any crowd

5) Fans are to be quiet when the offense is on the field, so the visiting team can scream as loud as they want

6) People sell tix on craigslist for every game and people will buy them because... (revert to the first point)

END

Posted by: BurgwithaU | November 5, 2008 10:00 AM | Report abuse

To go from 6-2 to 9-7 would be a debacle of Norv Turner type proportion. To be happy with that is loser mentality. I'll be pissed if that happens especially with Cincy and the 49ers still on the schedule.

HELL NO to DeAngelo Hall. Guy had problems in Atlanta with coaches. There was a game earlier this year he got hit with 2 personal fouls on one drive and still was giving Lane Kiffin an earful when he got yanked. He is one step above Michael Vick. Let Jerry Jones have him. Nail in the coffin.

Posted by: JasonLaTempleton | November 5, 2008 10:03 AM | Report abuse

7) Skins fans hate the stadium and would rather not spend a months rent or morgage on a ticket.

Posted by: alex35332 | November 5, 2008 10:05 AM | Report abuse

The italicizing has gone away. Based on Nate's comments I would also like to formally remove my name from consideration for the byline. However I am still available for a cabinet positions in the Obama admin: Secretary of Blogging or some sort.

Posted by: Gweez | November 5, 2008 10:07 AM | Report abuse

Re: DeAngelo Hall
-Malcontent? Check.
-Locker Room Migraine? Check.
-Bad Attitude toward coaches? Check.
-Me-First Player? Check.
-Overhyped? Check.
Looks like he fits the bill to play for the Cowgirls.

Re: Too many Steeler fans at FedEx

I think Skins Nation deserves a pass here. The fans have been dumping their money into Snyder's coffers for a decade and have been forced to watch abysmal teams. Yet the Skins remained one of the richest/most profitable franchises despite the crap they rolled out on the field. If ticket-holders want to take an opportunity to seriously skin the Steeler fans on prices and recoup some of the cash they lose on Snyder's bloated prices, then so be it.

Posted by: p1funk | November 5, 2008 10:12 AM | Report abuse

I think what bothers me most about the outcome last night is that of all of the Obama supporters interviewed, not one said that they were relieved that the best, or most qualified, man won the job. Instead, it was all about how historic a day it was for America for an African American to be elected to the White House. It was all a "black thing" instead of being all a "what's best for America" thing. I have no problem whatsoever with having a black president.....it just seems that the country's focus was in the wrong place.

Posted by: SirAnonymoustheGreat

The two "focuses" are not mutually exclusive. One of these events ("What's best for America" thing) occurs every 4 years. The other (the "black thing") occurred for the first time in the history of the Western world. I think it's okay for that to take precedence in terms of a celebration standpoint.

Posted by: psps23 | November 5, 2008 10:27 AM | Report abuse

political talk=power rankings=corks posts

Posted by: BeantownGreg | November 5, 2008 10:29 AM | Report abuse

I totally agree with psps, I will be saying the same thing someday when we hippies finnaly get = rights and get someone elected, but seeing that we are still 40 years behind African Americans I may not live to see that.

Posted by: alex35332 | November 5, 2008 10:31 AM | Report abuse

The offense is what it is - we have the skill players to compete with anyone; but our line is average - good, but old players. Jasno's previous post stated that the Redskins needed to grind it out - true, to a certain extant, but not so on Monday night - Zorn tried to beat their strength with our strength, and we got beat, as our O-Line does not stack up to their O-Line - It's part of a learning process for the new coach, and I suspect, as we learn what Zorn is all about, that he wanted to take that approach to see what our limits were - he now knows for sure. Expect changes, just like after the New York game, that put is in a position to win most of our games the rest of the year.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | November 5, 2008 10:31 AM | Report abuse

DeAngelo Hall is such a talented player I actually thought about whether we should sign him. And the answer is no. Too risky: locker room problem child, diva attitude and he's a bit overrated on the field. Plus I'm tired of signing guys for the secondary. MORE YOUNG TALENT ON THE LINES!!
If Mario Williams gets cut then go for it. If your front 7 is straight, you don't need a Top 5 corner.

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 5, 2008 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Sir Anonymous,

I think you make an invalid point. Just because everyone was partying in the streets, and celebrating a historic moment, that was the focus of the evening. Lots of people voted for Obama for solid reasons; well stated positions, his vision of our country, a health plan that he could at least EXPLAIN. (Not that I think any one really knows how to fix that one) Don't take a snapshot of a historic evening and afix a portrait of what people are thinking to it. That's been the problem with our country for the past two decades. Everyone's got quick talking points - eveything isn't wrapped up in a 10 second sound bite.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | November 5, 2008 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Rember everyone today is FFA wednesday, infact becuase its a byweek its double FFA Wednesday.

Posted by: alex35332 | November 5, 2008 10:39 AM | Report abuse

I have no problem whatsoever with having a black president.....it just seems that the country's focus was in the wrong place.

Posted by: SirAnonymoustheGreat

Race is ALWAYS made more important than it should be in this country. ALWAYS. The more I pine for a day in which the content of a man's character supercedes the color of his skin, the more I find I probably won't live that long. So Obama's race is the emphasis not because it's more important, but because it's how people in this country roll.

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 5, 2008 10:40 AM | Report abuse

he two "focuses" are not mutually exclusive. One of these events ("What's best for America" thing) occurs every 4 years. The other (the "black thing") occurred for the first time in the history of the Western world. I think it's okay for that to take precedence in terms of a celebration standpoint.

Posted by: psps23 | November 5, 2008 10:27 AM | Report abuse

I think Obama would disagree with you. The most important thing is that the best man win. The fact that it is a minority or someone with the middle name Hussien is certainly historic but not important in it's own right.

Posted by: Gweez | November 5, 2008 10:42 AM | Report abuse

well said John D, I would even say that I am sickend by how our culture only thinks in soundbites, infact I am disapointed and sickened that now a great number of people will go back to sticking their heads in the sand when it comes to government.

Posted by: alex35332 | November 5, 2008 10:42 AM | Report abuse

I've been licking my wounds. My post-game analysis comes down to (1) the momentum changer and (2) the momentum keeper.

Momentum changes back and forth in most games (except maybe those involving the Chiefs, Bengals, or Lions). There was a combo momentum changer/keeper in this game. The changer = blocked punt. That pushed the visiting home team fans to a point of hysterical exhuberance (sp?). The momentum keeper was two words. Byron. Leftwich. [Also would have excepted "Separated. Shoulder."] Leftwich is a for real QB with something to prove. The end.

The missed "big plays" (settling for 2 FGs rather than TDs, dropped interception) could have outfluked the Steelers can kept the visiting home team fans out of the game, but those missed opportunities were not momentum changers (just "almost gotchas").

In the middle of the next draft, Skins need a punt returner. Badly. Can DeAngelo Hall return punts? If so, I'm ready to part ways with Tryon.

Posted by: dcsween | November 5, 2008 10:43 AM | Report abuse

PSP,

Sorry i just reread your post and missed the "from a celebration standpoint" Please disregard my post.

Posted by: Gweez | November 5, 2008 10:44 AM | Report abuse

Oh, and on that other thing you guys are chatting on about, I'm mostly relieved about what will NOT be happening to the Supreme Court. Presidents and politicians come and go. Supreme Court precedent is (almost) forever (except sometimes with this current clown car lineup).

Posted by: dcsween | November 5, 2008 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Does anyone beside me think "JM220" is Larry Michael in disguise?

Posted by: joeblazin | November 4, 2008 4:01 PM

Not me, but I did see someone dressed as Larry Michael winding up to a deliver a hammer to the back of the head of the collective posse of Skins journos in D.C. Just sayin'.

Posted by: dcsween | November 5, 2008 10:56 AM | Report abuse

NEW DEAL COMING FOR CAMPBELL
Posted by Mike Florio on November 5, 2008, 10:51 a.m.

One of the players who’s likely to end up paying taxes at a lower rate is Redskins quarterback Jason Campbell.

As we hear it, a new contract is expected to be reached between Campbell and the Redskins before the end of the season. Talks have not yet commenced, but are expected to begin in the coming weeks.

Campbell was a first-round pick in 2005. His rookie contract expires after the 2009 season.

But, like Aaron Rodgers, Campbell wouldn’t be eligible for true free agency in 2010, absent an extension to the CBA. If 2010 has no salary cap, players need six years of service in order to qualify for unrestricted free agency. Campbell would instead be a restricted free agent.


http://www.profootballtalk.com/category/rumor-mill/

Posted by: Gweez | November 5, 2008 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Also, I'm ready to put money on Leftwich being the starter for the Steelers for the rest of the season ... and that the Steelers go undefeated for the games when Leftwich starts. Btwn Roethlesburgermeister (sp?) and Leftwich, they pretty much have the same playing style, so its just a matter of having the healthy guy running the show.

Posted by: dcsween | November 5, 2008 10:59 AM | Report abuse

skinz, thanks for the post, interesting..good to hear about that.

dc, I was very impressed with Byron, I thought he came in and played very well...

Posted by: BeantownGreg | November 5, 2008 11:02 AM | Report abuse

Looks like Deangelo Hall will be available soon. I wonder if the Redskins will pick him up? He does get burned alot, but he did lead the Raiders in picks. And the team could use a CB who can actually make picks. I say try to sign him for cheap and use him as the nickel back instead of Torrence. And maybe he's been humbled the same way Randy Moss was humbled after being banished in Raider Nation.

Posted by: ga8085 | November 5, 2008 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Looking at his punt return numbers, I say that (once he clears waivers*), Skins should sign DeAngelo Hall ... as DEPTH at corner ... and STARTING punt returner.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HallDe99.htm

* Once he clears waivers, Oakland still has to pay out his $70M contract, so it shouldn't cost the Skins too much.

Posted by: dcsween | November 5, 2008 11:06 AM | Report abuse

good news gweez. It would be nice to see Lefty get some playing time. There are teams that could use a real QB and this would give him a chance to show.

Posted by: alex35332 | November 5, 2008 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Once he clears waivers, Oakland still has to pay out his $70M contract, so it shouldn't cost the Skins too much.

Posted by: dcsween | November 5, 2008 11:06 AM |

That would be wrong they will only pay the signing bonus NFL contracts are not guaranteed.

Once he clears wavers he can be had by the highest bidder, he is owed no previous salary.

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 5, 2008 11:14 AM | Report abuse

beep beep means new thread

Posted by: dcsween | November 5, 2008 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Heath Shuler, Kevin Johnson and Sam Wyche also won yesterday.

Basketball's Kevin Johnson became mayor of Sacramento, Calif., while Heath Shuler and Sam Wyche scored victories that had little to do with football Tuesday on a night when more than a dozen sports figures ran for office.

Joe Mesi, once one of boxing's top heavyweights, had a rough time in the political ring, losing a bid for a legislative seat in New York.

Craig Robinson wasn't listed on any ballot, but the first-year Oregon State basketball coach could soon be a frequent White House visitor. Robinson was in Chicago to watch election results with his family, which includes brother-in-law and President-elect Barack Obama.

Johnson, a former All-Star point guard for the Phoenix Suns, is the first black mayor of Sacramento. The 42-year-old Democrat with conservative social views defeated two-term incumbent Heather Fargo in a run-off election.

"Sacramento also made history today in electing its first black mayor," Johnson said. "Both Obama and myself, we ran on a promise and the theme of change. No more business as usual."

Johnson put some flash into his campaign with the backing of basketball royalty Shaquille O'Neal, Magic Johnson and Charles Barkley. He wants to raise the profile of his hometown and bemoans his city's image beside that of Los Angeles and San Francisco.

"We should be a destination place," he said leading into the election.

Shuler, a Heisman Trophy runner-up at Tennessee who played quarterback for the Washington Redskins and New Orleans Saints, won in his first bid for re-election to Congress.

Shuler is a North Carolina Democrat whose district is in the state's western mountains. He defeated Carl Mumpower, who had irritated local Republican officials by saying he would support efforts to impeach President Bush.

"I did what I said I would do, and I think the people saw that," Shuler said.

Wyche coached in the NFL with Cincinnati and Tampa Bay and made it to the Super Bowl with the Bengals after the 1988 season. He ran as a Republican and commandingly won a seat on the Pickens County Council in South Carolina, an area that includes Clemson University. Wyche, once a quarterback at nearby Furman, promised better roads and schools and more jobs.

Mesi has a 36-0 record as a fighter and once had to stop fighting for two years because of bleeding in his brain. The Democrat had the support of Buffalo Sabres owner B. Thomas Golisano in his attempt to win a state Senate seat but lost to Republican Michael Ranzenhofer.

Joining Shuler in re-election to the House was Rep. Baron Hill of Indiana, a former Furman basketball player. He defeated former Rep. Mike Sodrel, a Republican and trucking company owner. The two have faced off in four consecutive elections

Posted by: Skins1 | November 5, 2008 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Btwn Roethlesburgermeister (sp?) and Leftwich, they pretty much have the same playing style

Posted by: dcsween | November 5, 2008 10:59 AM

Whoa...what? While I did get a chuckle out of the mile long spelling of Ben's name, he and Leftwich don't have the same playing style. Leftwich takes about a full 4 seconds to wind up his arm to throw, Ben doesn't. Ben can run a little, Leftwich runs the 40 in 2 days. I think they can put up similar numbers, but they don't have the same style of play.

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 5, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

BOTTOM LINE IS THIS, THIS IS THE MOST OVERLOOKED THING ABOUT THE SKINS, THEY HAVE PLAYED 5 PRESEASON GAMES, 9 REGULAR SEASON GAMES THE MOST OF ANY TEAM IN THE NFL WITHOUT A BYE, HALF OF THERE DEFENSE AND KEY PLAYERS ON THERE OFFENSE ARE BANGED UP. GIVE THEM A BREAK THEY WERE TIRED AND BANGED UP WITH TWO WEEKS TO GET EVERYONE BACK THEY WILL BE ALL RIGHT THEY ARE A TEAM AND DOING LOTS OF THINGS RIGHT. LETS NOT WRITE THEM OFF. ALL OF THERE DIVISON RIVALS ARE AT HOME AND THE ROAD GAMES ARE AGIANIST BOTTOM TIER OPPONETS WE HAVE A GREAT SHOT SINCE DALLAS AND PHILLY AND NY HAVE TOUGHER SCHEDULES THAN THE SKINS TWO OF THREE WINS AGAINIST DIVISION OPPONETS GIVES US A 4-2 RECORD

Posted by: chargeu2 | November 5, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

I think they should throw the ball at Calos Roger in practice, and make him used to catching the ball!

Posted by: sagaliba | November 5, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

D Hall, M. Vick. and what do they have in common? Va Tech.

Posted by: jmorris1 | November 6, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

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