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Shanahan-Haynesworth dynamic worth watching

New Redskins coach Mike Shanahan touched on several aspects of his past during his introductory news conference Wednesday. But he also dressed a few of his new players, particularly running back Clinton Portis and quarterback Jason Campbell.

But after Shanahan left the podium, he talked about a few more issues. One of them was defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth, who had an alternately explosive, then injury-plagued, then controversial first season with the Redskins.

"I've gone against Albert Haynesworth for a number of years, and he's a difference-maker," Shanahan said. "You don't want to go against him if you're on the other team because he is very disruptive. I'm hoping we can keep him healthy, and what that takes as you get older is a great offseason program. We'll do the things that we need to do to get him in the right position to have success, but I'm sure glad he's on our football team."

The last sentence is one that would likely make Haynesworth smile. Late in the season, he bristled about the way defensive coordinator Greg Blache used him throughout the season. Blache's system was not designed to highlight the talents of star players. Rather, the second-year coordinator - who is expected to retire rather than contend for a spot on Shanahan's staff - preferred players to carry out their specific responsibilities. If all 11 players did so, Blache believed, the defense would be successful..



After a Dec. 21 loss to the New York Giants, Haynesworth complained about being misused. On Christmas Day, he was late for a meeting -- and was subsequently sent home from practice by former coach Jim Zorn. Later that day, he went off to the Post's Jason Reid.

"If they keep this system the way it is, then they would label Albert Haynesworth a bust who didn't live up to the contract," Haynesworth said. "Everybody would say he just took the money and ran off. And I'm still playing as hard as I possibly can. But you can only do so much within the system that's put around you. And I'm not talking about the players. The players have been great. I couldn't ask for any better guys. I'm talking about the system."

After finishing fourth in total defense in 2008 -- without Haynesworth -- the Redskins finished 10th overall this past season, allowing 319.7 yards per game, 30 more yards per game than they had the year before. So here come the other part about Shanahan's statement on Haynesworth: "the great offseason program" for older players. Internally, NFL sources said, some of Haynesworth's teammates griped about the defensive tackle's work ethic.

When next season starts, Haynesworth will be 29, no longer a young player. Since playing in all 16 games as a rookie with Tennessee in 2002, he has averaged missing 3-3/4 games per season. He missed four with the Redskins in 2009. The dynamic between Shanahan and Haynesworth will be worth watching as we head into offseason workouts

By Barry Svrluga  |  January 7, 2010; 1:35 PM ET
 
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>>> "But he also dressed a few of his new players"

Really? The Mastermind is one heck of a coach, indeed!

Posted by: PDiddy | January 7, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

I think this only applies if the tie breaker goes to a coin flip. Which isn't the case between the Redskins and Chiefs.

Posted by: dfbovey

No, its for all teams with same record.

If you notice, last year we had #13 pick in front of the rest of the 8-8 teams. In the 3rd round, we picked 16th (80 overall), behind a few 8-8 teams.

Posted by: Rypien11 | January 7, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Is this really worth watching? he is still the most dominant defensive tackle in football, let him loose, watch him destroy people.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 7, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

>>> "But he also dressed a few of his new players"

Really? The Mastermind is one heck of a coach, indeed!

Posted by: PDiddy | January 7, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

I heard he had rules for everything, but this is a little out of hand...

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | January 7, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Is this list with or without a cap because if it is with a cap then most of the people on it will be RFA, when there is no cap.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 7, 2010 1:31 PM

Have no clue....

Some guy named Jason LaCanfora has this article with a potential list. Alot of the people from my post is not on here...

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d81423860&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true

It doesn't look complete, though...

....I anticipate alot of wheeling and dealing for players we don't want for players other teams don't want...

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 7, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Why so negative on Jerry Gray after all he's wasn't responsible for the defensive scheme game to game and he coached the D-backs as best he could and quit all the double move talk he wasn't out there. Jerry Gray will make a excellent D-coordinator get him the right players and you will see championship results and not the arrogant i know what i'm doing and NO! I'm not answering any of your dumb azz questions attitude we've seen the last few years.

Posted by: dargregmag | January 7, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

I bet Landry won't be skipping any "voluntary" camp workouts next season like he usually does.

Posted by: hbu_dog | January 7, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Ehhh....Wag the Dog's tale, eh?

He only mentioned CP and Campbell because he was asked about those players specifically by the media members...

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 7, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Why would I vomit? I am intrigued.

Please explain?

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 7, 2010 12:39 PM

The link had the Skins taking Jimmy Clausen with the #4 pick ... or someone put bull jizz in the milk carton for your morning coffee ... can't quite remember which now ...

Posted by: dcsween | January 7, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse


Why so negative on Jerry Gray after all he's wasn't responsible for the defensive scheme game to game and he coached the D-backs as best he could and quit all the double move talk he wasn't out there. Jerry Gray will make a excellent D-coordinator get him the right players and you will see championship results and not the arrogant i know what i'm doing and NO! I'm not answering any of your dumb azz questions attitude we've seen the last few years.

Posted by: dargregmag

Jerry Gray has shown me nothing. What has he shown you?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 7, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Also, I hate to interfere with facts up here, but wasn't Haynesworth up here in Ashburn 90% of the time since he signed his contract?

Yes...because I watched Redskins NAtion everyday on my DVR and they would show him doing different activities almost everyday....HE was there even the days they weren't required to be there....

Work Ethic and Offseaon Program are mutually exclusive...

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 7, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Clausen to the Skins would be laughable.....But not 'vomitable'....

Too early for mocks. I don't like Clausen as a prospect though. And I think it is real convient for him to have toe surgery now. Where he won't be able to show the TEs his skills until 3/4 weeks before the draft....

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 7, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse

BW's christmas just arrived.....

Redskins interested in April
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on January 7, 2010 1:55 PM ET
The Redskins love to go big, whether it's on the free market or coaching market.

That's why it's no surprise Dan Snyder has his eye on Bobby April, the former Bills special teams coach who became a coaching free agent this week.

PFT's Mike Florio credits a source that Snyder is interested in April, and eager to spend his money to get the very best on his new coaching staff. April's special teams units in Buffalo were consistently among the best in football.

New Redskins coach Mike Shanahan began morning at 6 A.M. and plans to meet with each member of the previous Redskins coaching staff. No announcements about the new staff have been made, outside of the addition of Kyle Shanahan as the team's offensive coordinator.

Danny Smith was the team's special teams coordinator last year

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 7, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse

I have a mancrush on Haynesworth, have since he got here. He has a passion for this game and wants to prove he is worth the money. He is right, put him in a defense that suits his style and it will be a massacre.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 7, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse

If you saw the picture of the sea cows Clausen had his arms around, you wouldn't want him here.

Tebow, Stafford, McCoy - with hot chicks.
Clausen - even if you put a bag on her head, I still would not have taken a Monica in a dark closet from her.

When youre the QB at ND and still can't get a 6 or 7 out of 10, you must not be all there.

Posted by: Rypien11 | January 7, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse

When asked by media yesterday if he'd been studying the Redskins during his layoff, he said " no not really". I don't believe that. He has been rumored to take over here for a while and I would think that he looked our roster up and down and figured out what was wrong and what he would do to fix it before he jumped in hap hazardly. He has a plan folks, lets sit back and enjoy the ride. Winning football will be back soon.

Posted by: FedorEm | January 7, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

What I wish Dan Snyder would say:

I, Daniel Snyder, as a lifelong fan and momentary owner of the Washington Redskins understand that players, coaches, and owners of the Washington Redskins come and go but the fans are forever. We owners, coaches, and players are but momentary keepers of this treasured institution, and as such, understand our responsibility to conduct ourselves in a way that honors those who went before us and maintains the utmost level of professionalism and commitment expected of anyone associated with the Washington Redskins.

Therefore, it is my commitment to you, the fans, to ensure that, win or lose, I myself, the staff, and the players will conduct ourselves in such a way that you can be proud of us and the whole Redskins organization.

I commit to you, the fans, that we will uphold the long standing Redskin traditions of:

Hard Work - Laying the foundation for success on the field

Tenacity - Having a never ever quit attitude

Team Work - Knowing none of us individually are as good as all of us together

Pride - Conducting ourselves in an honorable way so that we never ever embarrass the Washington Redskins and their loyal fans

Honor - Showing respect to our opponents and the officials

Tradition - Kicking the sh_t out of the Cowboys at any and every opportunity.

Hail to the Redskins...forever!

Sincerely,
Daniel Snyder


To some of you "winning is everything" folks this may sound wimpy to you but, more than rooting for a winning team, I want to root for a team that I'm proud of. A team that works hard, plays together, doesn't showboat and act like idiots on or off the field, and shows respect to their opponents...preferably as they trounce them on the football field.

Honor, Respect, Dignity...without these Lombardis don't mean much. Don't get me wrong. I want wins. But I want PRIDE more.

Posted by: Rdsknsfan4life1 | January 7, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

4.1 earthquake here, which is smaller than what is hitting the Wizards

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 7, 2010 2:15 PM | Report abuse

From pft (someone was going to paste this soon anyway) ...

"Redskins interested in April
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on January 7, 2010 1:55 PM ET

The Redskins love to go big, whether it's on the free agent market or coaching market.

That's why it's no surprise Dan Snyder has his eye on Bobby April, the former Bills special teams coach who became a free agent this week.

PFT's Mike Florio credits a source that Snyder is interested in April, and eager to spend money to get the very best on his new coaching staff. April's special teams units in Buffalo were consistently among the best in football.

New Redskins coach Mike Shanahan began his morning at 6 A.M. to meet with each member of the previous Redskins coaching staff. No announcements about the new staff have been made, outside of the addition of Kyle Shanahan as the team's offensive coordinator.

Danny Smith was the team's special teams coordinator last year."

>>> Only two things I know about Bills' special teams ... Kevin Everett nearly became quadrapelegic on Bills' s-teams (but saved by nifty sideline saline injection to the spinal cord) ... and Brian Moorman went to the Pro-Bowl ... where he was on the receiving end of the only play anyone will ever remember from any Pro Bowl.

Posted by: dcsween | January 7, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

I heard he had rules for everything, but this is a little out of hand...

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | January 7, 2010 1:51 PM

Right. Telling Clinton Portis that he can't wear drag is like telling Gilbert Arenas that he can't pack heat in the locker room. Sure to be an eruption!

Posted by: League-Source | January 7, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

I know it was over a week ago or whatever, but I finally got around to reading the interviews that went on between JC17 and Clinto Tortoise.

I cant believe 26 would do that (I guess I should) but good for JC17 to slap back a little.

Have we reached a point where 26 can be considered a cancer?

Posted by: CheyenneWY | January 7, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

what I think is funny about gilbert is that it was unloaded....what exactly were you going to do with it...throw the bullets at him.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 7, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Clausen to the Skins would be laughable ... But not 'vomitable' ...

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 7, 2010 2:08 PM

... then it must have been the cow baby batter in the morning coffee ...

Ryp, have you ever seen the 'women' that attend Notre Dame? [ND campus dress code prohibits mini-skirts for a reason.] Also, so why does it matter that a QB be a pretty boy? (not that there's anything wrong with that). Not that I pay much attention to this things, but Flacco seems fairly ugly to me ... and Elway and Jaworski had mugs to drink with and smash in the fire place (really reaching for comedic imagery here sween). Yes, lots of QBs are pretty boys (Campbell, Eli, and Gomer Romo excluded), but what's your real point?

Posted by: dcsween | January 7, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

NEWS FLASH: The Redskins reported to be trading #4 pick and JC17 to Bears for Cutler......

Posted by: rupertpupkin | January 7, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Too early for mocks. I don't like Clausen as a prospect though. And I think it is real convient for him to have toe surgery now. Where he won't be able to show the TEs his skills until 3/4 weeks before the draft....

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 7, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse


With Bulger hanging it up in St. Louis I can't imagine them not taking Claussen.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 7, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

pft link, or I call bullcrap....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 7, 2010 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Hope sfskin wasn't shaken up too badly today.

Posted by: will_ga | January 7, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Don't forget, Shanny's StuporBowel wins have the dreaded asterix on them, as confirmed publicly by Romanowski and evidenced by many career performances by aging vets.

..just sayin' is all...

http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=AASB&p_theme=aasb&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=0EA0753E030967BC&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&s_trackval=GooglePM

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 7, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Have we reached a point where 26 can be considered a cancer?

Posted by: CheyenneWY | January 7, 2010 2:27 PM

Technically, I think he remains a virgo.

Posted by: dcsween | January 7, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

pft link, or I call bullcrap....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 7, 2010 2:33 PM

pft link, AND I call bullcrap....

Posted by: League-Source | January 7, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Lol'd on that one, sween.

Posted by: swowra | January 7, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | January 7, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

I would love to have CP try some steroids to get back to where he was...but I would be afraid he would just end up spraining his thumb trying to shoot it.

Posted by: CheyenneWY | January 7, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

pft link, or I call bullcrap....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1

very good

pot, kettle, black, etc

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 7, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

I think Portis recognized that he was a concussed guy walking and probably was telegraphing that he wouldn't be on the Skins next year regardless. My guess would be that he retire ... but maybe retiring voids his guaranteed money ... so maybe he just tries to make a roster and have a Priest Holmes-like twilight to his career.

Posted by: dcsween | January 7, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Technically, I think he remains a virgo.

Posted by: dcsween | January 7, 2010 2:35 PM

After Shanahan's talked to him he'll be a Bill.

Posted by: League-Source | January 7, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

pft link, or I call bullcrap....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 7, 2010 2:33 PM

pft link, AND I call bullcrap....

Posted by: League-Source | January 7, 2010 2:36 PM

Normally I boo you from the balcony. But kudos LS. That was worth a chuckle.

Posted by: mack1 | January 7, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Way to go, sween. Mention Priest Holmes and periculum is sure to surface.

Posted by: swowra | January 7, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

When youre the QB at ND and still can't get a 6 or 7 out of 10, you must not be all there.

Posted by: Rypien11 | January 7, 2010 2:12 PM

Sometimes 2 5's are better than a 10...

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 7, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Sween - no point at all. Just trying to provide some comic relief. Clearly it zeppelin'ed.

Posted by: Rypien11 | January 7, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

So we finally get The Danny to get rid of Cerrato and now we have a coach whose son runs the offense.

Posted by: CheyenneWY | January 7, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Ryp, have you ever seen the 'women' that attend Notre Dame? [ND campus dress code prohibits mini-skirts for a reason.] Also, so why does it matter that a QB be a pretty boy? (not that there's anything wrong with that). Not that I pay much attention to this things, but Flacco seems fairly ugly to me ... and Elway and Jaworski had mugs to drink with and smash in the fire place (really reaching for comedic imagery here sween). Yes, lots of QBs are pretty boys (Campbell, Eli, and Gomer Romo excluded), but what's your real point?
Posted by: dcsween | January 7, 2010 2:31 PM

Flacco xferred from Pitt for 2 reasons…..to be a starter, and because the UD chicks are plenty hot. They were when I went there 1986-90, and they are still hot today from what I have seen at the games. There was like a 3:1 girl to guy ratio when I went there; think it’s still pretty close. Good odds.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | January 7, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

And my unpopular prediction:

Portis performs to Shanny's requirements, contributes effectively - though not stellar(ly?) in preseason. Restructures his contract and is back next season.

Either that or they cut him to eat his contract.

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 7, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Portis performs to Shanny's requirements, contributes effectively - though not stellar(ly?) in preseason. Restructures his contract and is back next season.

Either that or they cut him to eat his contract.

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 7, 2010 2:46 PM


Mine is that he will never wear a Redskins uni except on Halloween. Uncapped year: they cut him. Capped year: negotiate a buyout.

Posted by: League-Source | January 7, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Bye Danny Smith and take your 55 kickers with you, oh and also ARE don't forget him.

Posted by: joeboggs | January 7, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

So, if CP is out next year, what is the alternative? Start Betts? Shanahan did try to trade for him at some point...

Posted by: swowra | January 7, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

most interesting line from 1965skinsfan line to Fatsis' article on Shananah, " ... told an interviewer than he hadn't taken more than a week off in a 15-year coaching career that included a marriage and the birth of two children. ..."

Makes it sound all the more plausible that Kyle Shanahan would want to come coach with his dad ... so he could actually spend some time with him.

Posted by: dcsween | January 7, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Not sure Betts comes back at all. He's old, yes I know low mileage, but tough even for young RB's to come back from that injury.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | January 7, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

So who will be the first ex-skin???

Posted by: CheyenneWY | January 7, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Hey, Ray Brown was the oline coach in Buffalo, right?

Posted by: daggar | January 7, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Not sure Betts comes back at all. He's old, yes I know low mileage, but tough even for young RB's to come back from that injury.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan

Agreed. Betts is done as an RB. By the time he is fully recovered, its 2011. Maybe he finds some special teams work somewhere as a personal protector. But he's not going to be a #2 RB here or anywhere else.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 7, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Bye Danny Smith and take your 55 kickers with you, oh and also ARE don't forget him.

Posted by: joeboggs | January 7, 2010 2:52 PM

Take 54 of them. Leave Gano. He might be the man we've been looking for.

Posted by: League-Source | January 7, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

ooooh - good question!

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 7, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Yeah Rupe; that trade(JC17) for Cutler would make us look just like da Bears...................stupid!!

Posted by: dargregmag | January 7, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

I think the need to get more speed in the backfield is crucial, that's where Betts doesn't fit in.

Posted by: joeboggs | January 7, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

swowra, mentioning the Superior One (from Kansas City) for the purpose of the analogy necessarily entails great risk of summoning the horrible one. For that reason, I won't do it a second time.

Ryp, 4th Floor thinks I have a hardon for Jimmy Clausen ... so maybe I like ugly guys. Go figure.

Its not hard to imagine Danny Smith being part of the deep flush, esp. b/c Zorn presumably didn't pay the attention to special teams that Gibbs did, but I do see him coaching special teams next year somewhere else. He has made something out of nothings in the past, esp. on coverage at the exchange of possession (i.e., the other ten guys on the field who aren't kickers). The beginning of the end for Danny Smith (and frankly, for the universe) was the loss of Leigh Torrence.

Posted by: dcsween | January 7, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Have we reached a point where 26 can be considered a cancer?


Posted by: CheyenneWY | January 7, 2010 2:27 PM


Did you read or listen to the interview?

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 7, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

So who will be the first ex-skin???

Posted by: CheyenneWY | January 7, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

It's close, between ARE and CP

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 7, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

ARE gets outta ST. I can see another reneg on his contract... but he made some good catches down the stretch and is in great shape. Nice as a 3rd/4th receiver, no?

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 7, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Hey, Ray Brown was the oline coach in Buffalo, right?

Posted by: daggar | January 7, 2010 3:01 PM

Assistant offensive line coach.

Also, for a 'bring back' RB, in my mind, better chances of success with Betts rather than Portis.

Posted by: dcsween | January 7, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

So who will be the first ex-skin???

Posted by: CheyenneWY | January 7, 2010 2:59 PM

I'm thinking a majority of the UFAs. Will intergoogle that list.

Posted by: dcsween | January 7, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse

I read the interview or at least the excerpts...did I miss something?

Posted by: CheyenneWY | January 7, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse

So who will be the first ex-skin???

Posted by: CheyenneWY | January 7, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

It's close, between ARE and CP

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 7, 2010 3:05 PM

There won't be a first. It will be a dead (literally) heat between about ten or twelve guys. There will be a list and the only way you're first on the list is alphabetical order. So, Betts, Ladell might top the list.

Posted by: League-Source | January 7, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Sween - I would assume you have a hard on for Suh and Danny Smith before Clausen....

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 7, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

sween, Jasno already posted that on NFL.com I think. Link is in this thread.

(thx, btw whoever posted that!!)

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 7, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

It's close, between ARE and CP

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 7, 2010 3:05 PM

My choice is ARE

Posted by: joeboggs | January 7, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Betts lasted 2 games. And wasn't much save for that 1K season. He's cheap, tho - so that's a plus.

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 7, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

"Telling Clinton Portis that he can't wear drag is like telling Gilbert Arenas that he can't pack heat in the locker room. Sure to be an eruption!"


What....?

Let me get this straight: Clinton Portis in drag gave Gilbert Arenas an 'eruption'?

No wonder he's been told to stay away indefinately.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 7, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Returning UFAs:

Ethan Albright
Hunter Smith

Non-returning UFAs:

Randy Thomas
Phillip Daniels
Renaldo Wynn

Bunch of other guys listed as UFA are probably RFA b/c the league year will end without a new CBA (Campbell, Rogers, Heyer, Alexander, Golston, Montgomery, McIntosh, Doughty)

Posted by: dcsween | January 7, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Betts is done. He is 32 and coming off ACL surgery. I for one would love 3 totally new RBs next year.

Posted by: FedorEm | January 7, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Sween - I would assume you have a hard on for Suh and Danny Smith before Clausen....

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 7, 2010 3:09 PM

Hmmm ... well, Suh and Danny Smith ARE ugly ...

Posted by: dcsween | January 7, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Any bets on the first FA signing.

I am going to call Brandon Marshall...

book it

Posted by: CheyenneWY | January 7, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

unless he is released, Marshall would cost us draft picks. Not sure I want to go down that road anymore.

Posted by: FedorEm | January 7, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Betts is done. He is 32 and coming off ACL surgery. I for one would love 3 totally new RBs next year.

Posted by: FedorEm | January 7, 2010 3:14 PM

3 new rb's would be nice especially in Shanny's system where the rb is interchangeable. Lets face it, we need to get younger in all facets of the team.

Posted by: joeboggs | January 7, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Listening for context IMO is always better than reading/getting it 2nd/3rd hand.

Did you read verbatim? Or just what the Bog transcribed?

After that, did you read what Cooley had to say? It was basically the same thing, but spoken more in a 'proper' like tone.

I thought Portis was saying that JC had too much on his plate. We all know about the play calling and the constant in and out personnel groupings. He had to worry about that, so his time to lead was very minimal.

Remember, it was his contract year. He had a lot to worry about. And, CP just stated the obvious. JC has the same demeanor, irregardless of the situation.

HE didn't pull a Rock Cartwright.

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 7, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Shanny was about to dump Marshall before he (Shanny) got fired himself.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4469786

Posted by: swowra | January 7, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Any bets on the first FA signing.

I am going to call Brandon Marshall...

book it

Posted by: CheyenneWY | January 7, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Personally I think he's a baby, but plays hard for Shanahan and doesn't give him crap.(Like skipping around like a girl during practice.)

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 7, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Any bets on the first FA signing.

I am going to call Brandon Marshall...

book it

Posted by: CheyenneWY | January 7, 2010 3:16 PM

So are you going to send a 1st or 2nd to Denver for the RESTRICTED FREE AGENT.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 7, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Portis also said, where no one in the Post transcribed it, so you'd have to listen was....Re: Rock comments. He said all that should have been kept in house and he should have never put it out to the media. And when he says things like that, the 1st person that pops up in peoples head is him, Portis. He said he never missed curfue or any of that other stuff he was talking about (Rock didn't talk about practice). He said the only thing the coaches got on him for was once a late night card game. But now, everything Rock said is being associated with Clinton.

They asked CP, if he would stop going to the owner if asked, he said yes.

So I would say go listen to the interview....

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 7, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Shanny was about to dump Marshall before he (Shanny) got fired himself.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4469786

Posted by: swowra | January 7, 2010 3:18 PM

Mort reported this last week as well. Marshall is not worth the headache.

Posted by: TWISI | January 7, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

CP needs the Skins more than they need him. He's no AP, Turner or Johnson. He's getting up there in age has bad work habits and is coming off injury.

Posted by: joeboggs | January 7, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Ooooooh, THIS looks interesting (from JLa) a little while ago ... I'm not that geeked by John Palermo (who?), but I WOULD be by Tim Krumrie!

"The Chiefs have fired longtime defensive line coach Tim Krumrie, according to league sources.

Krumrie, who is well respected in the coaching community, likely will command interest elsewhere.

Krumrie appears to be the only change on the defense at this point, according to league sources, with coordinator Clancy Pendergast not told he was being let go. With the team already firing position coaches, it would be very unusual for a move involving a coordinator to come later, and Pendergast has informed some around the league that he is safe."

Posted by: dcsween | January 7, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Sween,
I started the Zorn to Cleveland pimp ex in a pre- dawn (in Hawaii) fit of clarity.

QB coaching is where Zorn has heretofore excelled.

Holmgren knows him, and QB coaching is an area of need.

LATE BREAKING: just heard on 980 via internet feed (thank you Al Gore!!!!!) that mangenious and entire staff will return next year. So maybe my clarity was muddy after all. Still think it makes sense though.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | January 7, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

So who will be the first ex-skin???

Posted by: CheyenneWY | January 7, 2010 2:59 PM

It should be Samuels (don't want to toy with potential paralysis) but the fact that he hasn't retired yet leads me to believe that he's either contemplating coming back or they asked him to wait on the announcement to lessen the cap hit.

It'll probably be one or more of the stopgap players they signed off the street.

Posted by: skinswest | January 7, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse

I started the Zorn to Cleveland pimp ex in a pre- dawn (in Hawaii) fit of clarity.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | January 7, 2010 3:29 PM

Here are Zorn's options for next year:

1. Do nothing: Pay, $2.5 million from Daniel Snyder
2. Coach QBs: Pay, $.3 million from team, $2.2 million from Daniel Snyder
3. Be OC in some BCS college: Pay, $.4 million from team, $2.1 million from Daniel Snyder

Zorn's not stupid. He'll take Door #1.
And he won't, like Mike Shanahan, spend 4-5 hours a day watching films. Which is part of the reason why he'll never be a HC again.

Posted by: League-Source | January 7, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

A couple few years ago, all the draft mockeries were projecting the Skins to pick Michigan DT, Alan Branch. At the Combine, Tim Krumrie (personally) exposed Alan Branch as a big baby (actually made him weep or something). He mixes it up with prospects in a one-on-one drill, literally in his cowboy boots. Carriker was tipped off to it, hit back at Krumrie, and ended up moving way up in the draft.

Posted by: dcsween | January 7, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

So CP pretty much came back with the "it wasnt me defese". OK fair enough. Did he say if he would run a little harder if asked, or will he drop to his knees like a freshamn cheerleader with daddy issues as soon as a defender touches him.

Posted by: CheyenneWY | January 7, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

When youre the QB at ND and still can't get a 6 or 7 out of 10, you must not be all there.

Posted by: Rypien11 | January 7, 2010 2:12 PM

Sometimes 2 5's are better than a 10...

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 7, 2010 2:43 PM |

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what you don't want are 2 10's with a 5 as moral police!

Posted by: Peaceful2009 | January 7, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Regarding the post, I think another interesting dynamic other than Shanahan/Haynesworth will be Haynesworth and whomever the new d-coordinator will be. Shanahan was reportedly interested in switching to the 3-4 before getting fired in Denver. Wonder if he'd he pick a D-coord with that in mind? The fact that he was visiting the Pittsburgh and New England training camps makes me wonder.

Posted by: skinswest | January 7, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Redskins interested in April
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on January 7, 2010 1:55 PM ET
The Redskins love to go big, whether it's on the free market or coaching market.

That's why it's no surprise Dan Snyder has his eye on Bobby April, the former Bills special teams coach who became a coaching free agent this week.

PFT's Mike Florio credits a source that Snyder is interested in April, and eager to spend his money to get the very best on his new coaching staff. April's special teams units in Buffalo were consistently among the best in football.

New Redskins coach Mike Shanahan began morning at 6 A.M. and plans to meet with each member of the previous Redskins coaching staff. No announcements about the new staff have been made, outside of the addition of Kyle Shanahan as the team's offensive coordinator.

Danny Smith was the team's special teams coordinator last year.

It is going to take the media, and particularly the national media, a long time to accept the fact that Danny is not rally running the show anymore. If Bobby A comes here, it will be because Shanahan wants him on the staff, and BA agrees they can afford him. Once that occurs, BA will brief Danny and say "we are getting Bobby A as special teams coordinator, gonna pay him this much..." and Danny will say "sounds good, keep me posted...you need the plane to go get him?"

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | January 7, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

SkinsfaninKaneohe, my thinking was that Zorn was going to get the OC job in Cleveland for the same reasons ... I don't think he needs to drop down to position coach after having already been elevated to (and not allowed to serve as) offensive coordinator. When he was initially hire (before the HC search was over), the Jasons were repeating the meme that Zorn was looking like the early plum candidates for an OC job. I still think he could do a fine job calling plays if he didn't have to manage the game at the same time.

Posted by: dcsween | January 7, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Crummie is a beast from my old Elementary School Cincy Bengals...with Boomer Esiason...

Remember when he broke his leg in the SB? That was ugly....

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 7, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

I think Shanahan gives most of the roster a chance. That said, I think he knows who will go quickly of they don't show appropriate commitment.

Like most very good coaches, Shanahan will find the right balance between talent and actions.

Always liked the comment about Gibbs and Gary Clark. Gibbs appreciated Clark's talents more than he was annoyed by his actions.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 7, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Based on the press conference , we are not going to get anything good on the insider column from Jason. There will be total mortorium , no leaks. second, Clinton is gone based on what the coach said . Cambell is going to be traded away. We will have a good smaller and faster line built on trade, current players and draft. We want use the 1st round draft pick . We will work on getting couple of good cornerbacks and maybe a safety. We will also have mr. marshall as one of our recievers. soemone should keep track of this posting to see how accurate it will be.

Posted by: maz3 | January 7, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Thx to Dik on the real UFA tip ...

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d81423860&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true

If the Packers haven't re-signed him yet, I heart Chad Clifton at OT.

Posted by: dcsween | January 7, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse

or will he drop to his knees like a freshamn cheerleader with daddy issues as soon as a defender touches him.

Posted by: CheyenneWY | January 7, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

That made me laugh

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 7, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan's got some big problems with his high price primadonnas! They want to do everything their way or sit on the bench and collect their big bucks. If he can get them back to playing football and select some OL talent, he's got a shot!

Posted by: Jimbo77 | January 7, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

"Blache's system was not designed to highlight the talents of star players. Rather, the second-year coordinator - who is expected to retire rather than contend for a spot on Shanahan's staff - preferred players to carry out their specific responsibilities. If all 11 players did so, Blache believed, the defense would be successful.."

Blatche is a freaking idiot. good riddance.
He knows nothing of using his strengths and hiding his weaknesses. Does he really think ALL football players are equal? then why the freak is there a draft? ummm, maybe because some players are better than others. what a freacking azz clown. Please retire you old grump. And way to show responsibility as a coach and stop talking to reporters in the middle of the season.

Posted by: luvdc808 | January 7, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

"I am going to call Brandon Marshall..."


Yes: Brandon Marshall sure would be nice to see in burgandy n gold.

Maybe this year's second rounder becomes Brandon Marshall.

(Or next year's #1 pick)

Shanny's system relies on big receivers who fight for the ball, and so far, the guy drafted to be 'the guy'-Malcolm Kelly is an unknown in that regard.

So the money is on Mighty Mike Shanahan reaching into the bronco roster for a player he knows and loves:

Brandon Marshall.

Will he be a redskin?

Probably.

How else is Shanny going to make his system work?

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 7, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Oops, while I still heart Chad Clifton, I didn't notice that he'll be entering his 10th season. Scratch that.

Posted by: dcsween | January 7, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

lol...naw...there was nothing about practice..

He said he don't won't to be a captin and he wants to concentrate on the next season, getting prepared for it and giving all he has to do his best...

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 7, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Also, for a 'bring back' RB, in my mind, better chances of success with Betts rather than Portis.

Posted by: dcsween | January 7, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse
Tough call there. I think we probably have a better shot with CP. LB will be working hard just to get his knee working again. May never get back his speed. CP will have rested legs, just need to worry about his wagging tongue. I think MS will be able to take care of that. So I think CP is a better bet for 2010.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 7, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

I dont know if Brandon Marshall is worth the headache. I just think Shanahan will use the "better the devil you know vs. the devil you don't" mentality.

I think our young recivers did pretty ok last year. Whose to say how they will blossom under some real leadership, with a QB that has the time to find them.

Posted by: CheyenneWY | January 7, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Thx to Dik on the real UFA tip ...

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d81423860&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true

If the Packers haven't re-signed him yet, I heart Chad Clifton at OT.

Posted by: dcsween | January 7, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse

If the Skins opted, they could piece together a solid veteran line from this pool. They would have to draft OL in the mid-rounds however.

Posted by: TWISI | January 7, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

"I am going to call Brandon Marshall..."

Yes: Brandon Marshall sure would be nice to see in burgandy n gold.

Maybe this year's second rounder becomes Brandon Marshall.

(Or next year's #1 pick)

Shanny's system relies on big receivers who fight for the ball, and so far, the guy drafted to be 'the guy'-Malcolm Kelly is an unknown in that regard.

So the money is on Mighty Mike Shanahan reaching into the bronco roster for a player he knows and loves:

Brandon Marshall.

Will he be a redskin?

Probably.

How else is Shanny going to make his system work?

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 7, 2010 3:49 PM

Would you trade this years #1 for Marshall? Guy on the radio out here said Marshall was worth it, that he was arguably better than anyone coming out that the skins could get at #4. He's a stud WR no doubt but I wouldn't do that trade.

Posted by: skinswest | January 7, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Why bring in Marshall? We would have to waste a draft pick that could potentially be used on that sorry excuse for an O-line we have. Idea: The coaches coach these guys up to play tough and fight for the ball. We have the size, speed and youth at reciever, it's just a matter of pulling out the tampons and playing hard.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 7, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

beeps

Posted by: frediefritz | January 7, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

what you don't want are 2 10's with a 5 as moral police!

Posted by: Peaceful2009 | January 7, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse


Colt may have to change his number... he doesn't wanna get known as a CB5.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | January 7, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Would you trade this years #1 for Marshall? Guy on the radio out here said Marshall was worth it, that he was arguably better than anyone coming out that the skins could get at #4. He's a stud WR no doubt but I wouldn't do that trade.

Posted by: skinswest | January 7, 2010 3:55 PM

Shanny is too savvy. Remember he is here, not in Denver when he fleeced the skins on multiple occasions.

I'd give next year’s 3rd or maybe 2nd for Marshall. No way I'd give them a 1st when they're looking to dump him and still get some compensation.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 7, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

I think a big factor in all of this is if there is uncapped year next year. If so, that would be huge. If we can cut some of these losers and not have it count against the cap, then we could clear some dead weight and salary nicely. You can start with Randel El, R Thomas (health), and Portis. Samuels probably retires, and Rodgers isnt coming back. Get that junk off the books. The uncapped year means Campbell is only a restricted free agent too. We can tender him and play him another year to either evaluate him more, or let him continue to take the brunt of the leaky offensive line. Even if we did draft a qb, campbell still has some value to this team because Collins is 90 years old and probably gone, and Brennan has missed the whole year. I dont know what we do at RB, although with our line we could have Usain Bolt back there and it wouldnt matter. Cutting Portis, with Betts blown out knee, leaves us completly with nothing at RB. I just think that taking the opportunity of an uncapped year is to good of an opportunity to shed CP and not have horrific cap consequences. He hasnt practiced in like 3 years, I mean, come on. If we want to sign some free agents, the no cap lets us do it while still being able to getting some of these scrubs out of year. The more you think about it, the more you realize that we only have a few solid pieces to build around. We are 4-12 and play in the best division in football people, stop thinking playoffs next year. Lets get our act together for real and build this team back up. And one more thing, forget Gray. Our secondary is the most undisciplined, underachieving, non-tackeling, horrible angle taking group on the entire defense. Gray has some coaching skiils, but elevating the coach whom oversaw that group makes no sense at all to me.

Posted by: terpskinzorioless | January 7, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Back up the "DC Diva Bus" - no need to throw anyone under it, but rather LOAD it up with Albert, Clinton and even Gilbert and SEND IT OUT OF TOWN!! The result in all cases (even if the money has to be eaten!) would indeed be addition by subtraction!!

Posted by: rrlyon131 | January 7, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

With Allen and Shannahan taking charge I'm feeling a lot more secure about Campbell staying on as QB. It seems less likely Snyder needs a scape goat or a rash off season decision. That being said I actually thought Colt McCoy was a bit of a runner. Him and Tae Bow Tim seemed to have potential as dynamic athletic QBs. Thought. Maybe it was the Texas 40 or his rushing yardage. Or Maybe it was the aftertaste of Vince Young. But I've always dreamed of a NBA guard type size and athleticism at the QB position. Vick is just undersized enough to possibly affect his vision and completion percentage. JeMarcus Russell and Culpepper simply disappointed in that aspect compared to college. Though they had the size.

I give Texas props compared to USC. But compared to the SEC Texas might as well be USC or to be dramatic... Hawaii. The thing I didn't notice was that Colt was far and away the Longhorns leading rusher...IN RUSHES. He only averages 2.7 yards at the collegiate level. While Campbell's NFL career average is nearly double that of Colt's. There is no knocking completion percentage but Campbell's is improving tward Colt's season percentage at the NFL level while Colt is heavily weighted to the one reciever, who has triple the yardage of the next two. If Campbell spent the season alternately rushing for two yards and throwing deep to a wide open Moss... Well I guess I can dream but they probably would win in that scenario. But this debate too hopefully is just an aftertaste of things past. Allen and Shannahan are in charge.


Jerry Grey? Allen and Shannahan are in charge. Blatche should have a better shot almost to spite Haynesworth. Laundry had an awful year, it looked like a rookie year. What was with the hockey style checking in place of tackles? How many huge misses and blown coverages? From a guy who played possibly more at free safety than strong. The D line and at least London Fletcher played better but the D dropped in ranking. Some of it could be time of possesion/off. struggles. Orakpo's rookie year at LB also likely adds some growing pains though somewhat offset by added pass rush. Still it is easy to say the DBs played under par. Though Haynesworth's sporadic play doesn't help. A little more consistency and the DBs could play a little tighter. If it were almost guaranteed that they need only so many seconds of tight coverage, first quarter or fourth. Haynesworth should be the pace car. He has a job whether or not he feels he's in the race.

Posted by: chavez66 | January 7, 2010 5:26 PM | Report abuse

most interesting line from 1965skinsfan line to Fatsis' article on Shananah, " ... told an interviewer than he hadn't taken more than a week off in a 15-year coaching career that included a marriage and the birth of two children. ..."

Makes it sound all the more plausible that Kyle Shanahan would want to come coach with his dad ... so he could actually spend some time with him.

Posted by: dcsween | January 7, 2010 2:57


LOL.. too funny!

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | January 8, 2010 9:21 AM | Report abuse

"Blache's system was not designed to highlight the talents of star players. Rather, the second-year coordinator ... preferred players to carry out their specific responsibilities."

We've now heard this identical criticism from at least three former or current players: Arrington, Jason Taylor, and Haynesworth. I hope the next defensive coordinator will take it seriously. When Arrington was drafted he was praised as a potential free-lancer who could be assigned to "spy" an opponent's outstanding defensive player and who could run around on the field to produce chaos when the opponent's offense had the ball. Under both Williams and Blache this apparently became impossible, and one has to acknowledge that the Redskins' defense was outstanding or close to it under their systems. But the next coordinator also needs to consider how to come in with an outstanding defensive system that nevertheless allows the stars to do some free-lancing. We were told that this was the intention when Haynesworth was brought in, and when an extremely high first round pick was used to draft Arrington, he chose no. 56 because it was LT's number and he was planning to be the kind of player that LT was. That didn't happen. Similarly, Jason Taylor may not have been the bust that people said he was. Very little effort was made to allow him to do what he does best. The same could even be said about Adam Archuleta. Not to mention that despite the coaches' dedication to a system in which other players excelled, they failed to bid high enough to retain Antonio Pierce, a player who was the heart of the defense and should have been offered an attractive contract,
certainly one that would have convinced him not to test the free agent market and end up with the rival Giants.

Posted by: seltzer1 | January 8, 2010 11:09 AM | Report abuse

sir alf ramsey;who managed england when they won the soccer world cup in 1966,when told how good a player was said it's not how good he is but does he fit the system. a really good player should be able to play any system

Posted by: bfnb21 | January 8, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

I sure hope Mr. Shannahan lets Big Al do his thing on that d-line! I think that he could be a beast if he was put in the right system to fit his talent! I also hope that the Redskins send that back stabbing idiot Jerry Gray out of town on a one way train! Bring in a DC that will teach his players how to wrap their arm`s around someone when they are tackling them!

Posted by: vexed50verizonnet | January 8, 2010 8:16 PM | Report abuse

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