Network News

X My Profile
View More Activity
On Twitter: RedskinsInsider and PostSports  |  Facebook  |  E-mail alerts: Redskins and Sports  |  RSS
Posted at 2:14 PM ET, 12/17/2010

Shanahan: McNabb benched for remainder of season, may not be back with Redskins next year

By Jason Reid

Redskins Coach Mike Shanahan said Friday he plans to bench six-time Pro Bowl quarterback Donovan McNabb for the remainder of the season in an effort to evaluate backup Rex Grossman and third-stringer John Beck. He said he has informed McNabb he may not return next season despite recently signing a multiyear contract extension.

"I talked to Donovan yesterday after practice," Shanahan said after practice at Redskins Park. "I told him once we were mathematically eliminated from the playoffs, that I made a decision that I was going to start Rex Grossman. I want to get a feel on how Rex can run our offense over the next few weeks."

Shanahan explained his reasoning for the surprising McNabb-Grossman move, saying he hopes to get a better understanding of the strength of the Redskins at the quarterback position.

McNabb will serve as Grossman's backup Sunday against the Dallas Cowboys at Cowboys Stadium, and then will be demoted to the No. 3 quarterback for the final two games against the Jacksonville Jaguars and New York Giants, essentially making him inactive. Beck will be the backup in the last two games. He was the No. 3 quarterback in the Redskins' first 13 games.

"What I'd like to be able to do, is at the end of the season, be able to evaluate where we're at at our quarterback position," Shanahan said. "I told Donovan that there's nothing he could do in the three games that would influence me of what he's done over the last 13 games."

Although Shanahan, Washington's top football official, declined to say he erred in trading a second-round draft pick and a conditional fourth-rounder to the Philadelphia Eagles on Easter Sunday in exchange for McNabb, he acknowledged that the move has not produced the results he expected.

"Right now, I gotta do what I think's in the best interest of this organization," Shanahan said. "And that's to get a good feel of where we're at at the quarterback position.

"I also told him that I could not guarantee him that he would be back next year. I said, 'I can't guarantee you that.' But what I can guarantee ya [is] that I'll be honest with ya. I'll evaluate the situation."

Only 10 days after announcing his decision to suspend two-time all-pro defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth for the remainder of the season without pay, Shanahan again has raised the ante on his vision of what the Redskins must do to again become a championship-caliber franchise. McNabb may no longer be part of Shanahan's long-term plan for the franchise, and Shanahan said that's just the way it is.

"I'm not sure what we're gonna do in the college draft," Shanahan said. "If we were able to get the top quarterback in the draft, if there was a young Donovan McNabb or maybe a Sam Bradford, something like that, there's a lot of possibilities. I'll evaluate that and be as honest as I possibly can with him as time goes on."

By Jason Reid  | December 17, 2010; 2:14 PM ET
 
Save & Share:  Send E-mail   Facebook   Twitter   Digg   Yahoo Buzz   Del.icio.us   StumbleUpon   Technorati   Google Buzz   Previous: McNabb's agent on benching: 'It's beyond disrespectful'
Next: Sally Jenkins: Shanahan needed to take this step

Comments

Hmmmm. Should I be interested in watching this tryout game on Sunday? I'm not really.

Posted by: wwc4g | December 17, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

The market for McNabb: a third/fourth

The market for Hanyesworth: a fifth/sixth

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 17, 2010 2:18 PM

Nothing wrong with that...if I could trade a $100 pair of ugly mittens that I would never wear...for a shiny new pair of nail clippers...I'd do it in a second.

Posted by: PlayAction | December 17, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

So how come they aren't benching Cooley to see what Davis can do, on down the line? Maybe bench Kyle to see how well Samuels can call a game.

Posted by: groundhogdayguy | December 17, 2010 2:25 PM | Report abuse

So I guess I must get rid of that man crush I have on Julio Jones...and start developing one for Andy Luck and Ryan Mallett.

Posted by: roccoskins | December 17, 2010 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Dont nobody be watning eiver of dem. Mcnubby washed up - Hanny to much money - cut them both and move on on up! ya heard!

Posted by: Incognito00 | December 17, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

WOW! 2nd Rounder GONE! What a waste. Let's get Colt Brennan back, hehe. Hope he's OK from his accident.

Posted by: harbirsingh | December 17, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

WOW! 2nd Rounder GONE! What a waste. Let's get Colt Brennan back, hehe. Hope he's OK from his accident.

Posted by: harbirsingh | December 17, 2010 2:29 PM | Report abuse

F Chad Dukes. I hate this fat F with a passion. Something about his face and what comes out of his mouth makes me want shove my fist in his suck hole.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 17, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan: McNabb benched for remainder of season, may not be back with Redskins next year


Called it (week 3, I believe)!!!

Here's your crow: (INSERT image of moe handing out crow for various RI regulares to eat).

We are now on the clock.

Ryan Mallet?: where are you?

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 17, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

This once again short term stupidity. McNabb is a guy that can get you through the next 3 years while you develop someone new, like Rogers in Green Bay. Grossman is terrible. Kyle Shanahan is gone bring this team down.

Posted by: frankjomama | December 17, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

What's strange is McNabb's on pace for nearly 4200 yards...and it hasn't felt like it at all.

Go outside and run around your house in a circle 4200 times.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 17, 2010 2:03 PM

He's on pace for 4200 yards, not 4200 laps. Or, maybe what you mean is front yard and back yard plus two side yards? Then it would be 1050 laps for the 4200 yards.

Anyway, his season is over. Maybe he can go watch the games with AH.

Posted by: beep-beep | December 17, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Just beat Dallas and all will be right.

And Greg, I'd like to take a look at that swampland.

Posted by: iH8dallas | December 17, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

I AM OFFICIALLY A RAVENS FAN NOW. GOOD BYE DEAD SKINS. THE MOST ANTICIPATED GAME OF THE SEASON AND U WANT TO "EVALUATE" WE FANS ARE TIRED OF THIS! TIRED OF BEING MILKED BY THIS ORGANIZATION! WE SHOULD SUE YOU ALL FOR THE DUMB DECISIONS. BETTER YET WE SHOULD BOYCOTT REDSKIN PRODUCTS!

Posted by: 20bello | December 17, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Well, that eliminates McNabb's shot at a 4000 yard season, and ensures he'll have more INTs than TDs this year.

Posted by: Alan4 | December 17, 2010 2:33 PM | Report abuse

mcnabb to arizona... book it!!!

Posted by: jimmy_the_crickett | December 17, 2010 2:33 PM | Report abuse

I was a Shannahan apologist for sometime but this is a complete fail. The biggest reason being that now we have tipped out hand as to what we are going to do in this years draft.

Now everyone in the world knows we are picking up a QB. So now there is no way we can shift around.

Man, it is so hard to stay positive with this team. I'm still die hard and will never root for anyone different, but geez. Can you throw a guy a bone for once.

Posted by: Devo2 | December 17, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Geez, what a soap opera this team is. Boycott Snyder!

Posted by: McLobo | December 17, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Is this the end of the era of acquiring other teams washed up Pro Bowlers? Will Shanahan admit he got snookered by Andy Reid? I'm waiting to hear them say "We are committed to developing young talent". It will be a long and painful rebuilding effort.

Posted by: Natmeister | December 17, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

What a joke this franchise has become. Hey Shanny you play to win the game. If we had a 1st round QB stud in waiting I would say fine. You have torn this team right down to the core again. I thought we were heading in the right direction.... not any more. That Season Ticket check is going to be hard to sign next spring.

Posted by: dph60 | December 17, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Benching McNabb for Rex Grossman? Before the Cowboys game? I'll assume this was a preXmas joke that the reporter didn't pick up on.

Posted by: gt0571a | December 17, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

If this is the road we're taking then there will be more Giants fans than empty seats at FedEx for the last home game.

If the Danny can sit and watch as we get ramroded by out last four divisional foes and does not make a change THEN he has changed. But I fear we make be back to the Vinny.

Say it aint so Santa.

I also think Shannahan should be held accountable for this shabingus. If McNabb can't get this offense in one year and is out; same for the coach that couldn't make this a playoff team in year one.

Rebuilding takes people with proven track records. Shanahan can't pick talent and if we trust this egomanic to pick the talent for us we will only be set back another ten years.

Posted by: bangkokben | December 17, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

mcnabb to arizona... book it!!!

As a free agent perhaps.

They're not giving up anything for a guy that will be let go.

I can see McNabb signing with Minnesota too.

Posted by: SteveMG | December 17, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

I SECOND A BOYCOTT!!!!

Posted by: 20bello | December 17, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

btw, shanny has never developed a young qb in his career... he inherited elway then got plummer...

Posted by: jimmy_the_crickett | December 17, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Gotta figure a lot of folks in the Redskins front office had to go to the dictionary in an effort figure out what exactly Fletcher M. Smith was trying to communicate.

Was he trying to:

Talk about "respect" with anyone responsible for the building and sustaining the perennial league laughingstocks?

Talk about "class" with Dandy Dan and his disciples?

Talk about "honesty," “commitment,” and "trust" with Ol' Sham-I-am and his cronies?

If so, we must know they were wasted words – spoken in some what might say is a highly peculiar language that no one here appears understand.

Mr. Smith could have just as well said it in Sanskrit.

Posted by: Vic1 | December 17, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan's a crossbreed between Alexander Haig and Joan Rivers.

Posted by: mdpilot | December 17, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse


It's not just the QB! The O Line cant protect ANY QB they put in!!

Posted by: Angryman | December 17, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

"If we were able to get the top quarterback in the draft, if there was a young Donovan McNabb" ...

...that says all you need to know.

Posted by: dc1020008 | December 17, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

People are funny.

I remember last year many of them were screaming for Zorn to play the unknowns at the end of the year when the season was in the crapper.

Now that THIS season is in the crapper, suddenly people DON'T want to see Beck or Grossman?

I sure do. I also want to see Austin and more of F. Davis, Barnes and Jarmon.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | December 17, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

If they know the trade was a bust, best to fold their hand now rather than keep into a pot they can't win.

Still, this ends up as a lost 2nd rounder, minus whatever they can get for DM next year (I alway call the 4th rounder negated by the 4th for Campbell).

Credit for making a move now, blame for a busted trade.

Posted by: shaunsherman12 | December 17, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Jason Campbell to Donovan McNabb: "I love you, man!"

Posted by: Alan4 | December 17, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Well, that eliminates McNabb's shot at a 4000 yard season, and ensures he'll have more INTs than TDs this year.

Posted by: Alan4 | December 17, 2010 2:33 PM


Know what else would've given McNabb a chance at throwing more TDs than INTs this year? Throwing more TDs than INTs in the first 13 games.

Hmmm.

Posted by: freakzilla | December 17, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

I SECOND A BOYCOTT!!!!

Posted by: 20bello | December 17, 2010 2:37 PM

Hey...you already jumped ship...get lost.

Posted by: PlayAction | December 17, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Why are people so upset. You ask for a youth movement in these final games to see how players look...so what? You eliminate the QB. I like what Shanny has done. You hold EVERYONE accountable. If Mc5 has not played well, he shouldn't get special treatment.

You ask for the Owner to get his hands out of stuff, and its pretty obvious he has done so. Because, there is no way Mc5 would have been benched if the Danny Boi had any say. Especailly after paying him 3.5 mill.

Real Redskins fans stand up. All those people that want to stop rooting for this team, F U!

Posted by: roccoskins | December 17, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

With not many draft choices for years and very few players anyone would want in a trade thus leaving the Redskins with the scum of the earth, what do you say, maybe 8-8, at best, in 2017? We're in for a very long drought.

Posted by: interactingdc | December 17, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

mcnabb to arizona... book it!!!

As a free agent perhaps.

They're not giving up anything for a guy that will be let go.

I can see McNabb signing with Minnesota too.

Posted by: SteveMG | December 17, 2010 2:36 PM
!)(!)!(!)!(!))))))))))))))))))))))))))((((((((((((()

chilly is gone in viking land... not going to viking land... don burgundy has a home in arizona... cards are in need of a qb!!!

Posted by: jimmy_the_crickett | December 17, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Dont nobody be watning eiver of dem. Mcnubby washed up - Hanny to much money - cut them both and move on on up! ya heard!

__________________
Ebonics.

Posted by: DarkHelmet1983 | December 17, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

I hope this will convince at least some of the doubters that this move isn't about disrespect or God complex or anything else. He is admitting his experiment with DM didn't work out, and now it's time to move on. You can't worry about player's feelings when you are in full rebuild mode.

Posted by: NYPDee | December 17, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

As a free agent perhaps.

They're not giving up anything for a guy that will be let go.

I can see McNabb signing with Minnesota too.

Posted by: SteveMG | December 17, 2010 2:36 PM

Thing is, if they want to have him in training camp they may have to give up that pick. Skins don't have to release him until around the 1st game.

Az or Mn will blink and make the trade.

Posted by: kerzon417 | December 17, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Rex Grossman is not an unknown. We will not see Austin or Banks as receivers as it will upset the control on sexy rexy. We will simply see what everyone knows a below average qb looking about as vanilla as possible or we will the cowboys biggest victory all year.

Posted by: bangkokben | December 17, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

When people stop showing up to FedEx, stop watching the games on TV, and stop buying Redskins gear then maybe, just maybe, Snyder & Co. will stop abusing its fan base.

Posted by: EasyDecisions | December 17, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Okay; everyone was thrilled when Mr. Snyder selected Mike Shanahan to be head coach and Bruce Allen to be General Manager, when Mr. Snyder made both Mr. Shanahan and Mr. Executive Vice Presidents and stepped back from being involved in the decision making, and when Mr. Snyder gave Mr. Shanahan complete authority and final decision making for all coaching and personnel matters among other things (making one wonder what Mr. Allen's role is), and when the Redskins traded for Mr. McNabb.

Now why is everyone upset. Mr. Shanahan is just doing what Mr. Shanahan does.

dungarees2@gmail.com

Posted by: Dungarees | December 17, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

You Shananhan supporters, please raise your hands...can't be many (if any) of you anymore.

Shanahan must want to be fired...maybe he thinks they will take him back in Denver.

I say "Fire him now!"

Posted by: Lisa_R | December 17, 2010 11:50 AM |

I'll raise my hand. For one more season. DMac has played mediocre to poor the entire season. And no one player is bigger than the team. Let's see what the offense looks like with Rex. Worse thing that can happen is we move up a couple of slots in the draft. And Lisa, no disrespect, but you tend to treat this team like a box of kittens. That softie approach doesn't seem to have worked well the past 12 years. Time to try something different.

Posted by: mack1 | December 17, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Finally..we are rebuilding!!!!!! The only problem is if the redskins are smart enough to draft good players..

Posted by: thewayitis | December 17, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Maybe he should leave McNabb in and evaluate some offensive linemen who can block and some receivers who can catch?

Posted by: amstphd | December 17, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Why not send Hayneswoth from the Shanny doghouse back to the Titans for the Fisher doghouse QB Young. Fisher and Shanny are said to be friends. Let them share their problem childeren.

Posted by: jmorris1 | December 17, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

OK, but WHY DID YOU sign him for 5 years a month ago ? !!! What is wrong with this front office ? !!!

Posted by: genefitzhugh | December 17, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

they just stated he may not be back with the team next year, thus ELIMINATING any trade value he had left, now that teams know this why would they trade for him....ufb...disfunction thy name is Redskins

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 17, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

I hope McNabb enjoys wearing purple and gold...

Posted by: ozpunk | December 17, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

2 more years of this nut as coach!

why would i give you draft picks for AH or McNabb when i know your going to cut them if nobody give you picks?

That's it with all of the rule changes and other incidents that happen in the NFL.
I'm out! I guess i've been watching the league to long.

It's no longer the game i love.

Hey all good things come to an end.

I'm free sunday's now in the fall and winter.
Ya'll keep watching don't mind me SUCKERS :)

Posted by: shamken | December 17, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

One word....

DEBACLE

Posted by: dcburgh | December 17, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Thing is, if they want to have him in training camp they may have to give up that pick. Skins don't have to release him until around the 1st game.

Good point.

I imagine anything would be conditional, though. So, it'd probably be for next year's draft - 2012 - and not this upcoming one.

If he plays "X" games, it's such-and-such a round.

They're just not going to get much for him.

Posted by: SteveMG | December 17, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Just come to some kind of agreement to get Shanahan out of here. Pay him off, just like the overrated players they sign.

And then sign Jim Harbaugh as coach.

Posted by: mike8 | December 17, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

No News is Now News.

We are out of the playoffs again and are evaluating talent to see the reasons why we need to draft Cam Newton.

That is all........

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 17, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

McNabb is disrespectfully called "McRibb" and "McNugget" by certain fans. I wish they wouldn't do that.

Anyway, McNabb is okay, and yes, its the rest of the team, but from a strategic perspective, if you're going to invest in a QB, you want a QB that you'll get 8-10 years from and will be increasing in skills.

McNabb really has to go to a team that has a lot of pieces in place, not a team looking to completely rebuild like the Redskins. He was only brought in to convince dim fans that they're trying to win now. They're not.

McNabb will likely go to Minnesota, where they already have a good running game, and good d-line and short window. But they won't pay him stupid money like he thinks he should get.

Posted by: Ombudsman1 | December 17, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

definition of debacle - a complete collapse or failure.

How 'bout them Redskins?

Posted by: dcburgh | December 17, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

btw, shanny has never developed a young qb in his career... he inherited elway then got plummer...

Posted by: jimmy_the_crickett | December 17, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Dis wut I be saying all dem time. Thanks you hommie you b reading my memory.

Final socer: Dulles 73 - Skins 11

Posted by: Incognito00 | December 17, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

No matter what happens, if we lose McNabb, we will have lost a true gentleman. While others were ranting and raving, he spoke on a even keel and made sense when he opened his mouth. There were never any threats made nor ultimatums laid down. I personally think he has been handed a rotten deal. But that seems to be pro sports.

Posted by: mbrumble | December 17, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Until they address the O line, lack of receivers and a legitimate RB it isn't going to matter who plays QB.
Nothing against Anthony Armstrong or Ryan Torain but no one is going to mistake them for Jerry Rice and Emmitt Smith anytime soon.

Posted by: BigDaddy651 | December 17, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

But he kept the kicker? And who is playing DT again? Only a matter of time before he gets fired. Shanny must go. He is old and done. The game has passed him by. And he will never fire his son - who is clueless. Real talk: All you Shanny apologists need to cut it out. Grossman sucks. Play the "young studs" ? Shanny did not draft any. Hail to the Redskins? I've had enough of the Redskins. Checking out the Ravens Sunday.

Posted by: MikeMIke3 | December 17, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Real Redskins fans stand up. All those people that want to stop rooting for this team, F U!

Posted by: roccoskins | December 17, 2010 2:41 PM |

OMG, rocco cursed? Now that's a bloggist I can get behind.

Go Rock!

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 17, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins are officially insane.

This is no way to buy loyalty from your team members.

Posted by: Benson | December 17, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

$1 million says McNabb throws up silly numbers where ever he is next year. And he will spill the beans about this effed up organization.
Is McNabb a pro-bowler? No. Will Beck, Grossman or Jesus Christ do better behind center? NO.
Porous line. Check.
Midget receivers who drop balls. Check.
Suspect running game (Torain vs. Giants - show me that again before you say we can run). Check.
Crazy owner, has been coach, Living on Daddy's Legacy GM. CHECK!!!

Posted by: jwm1974 | December 17, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

To all the Dix that hate me, and sling insults, I effin told you effin soooooooo. LOL

laughing stock

Posted by: pabrian2003 | December 17, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

mcNabb to L.A. , book it!

Posted by: pabrian2003 | December 17, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Know what else would've given McNabb a chance at throwing more TDs than INTs this year? Throwing more TDs than INTs in the first 13 games.

Hmmm.

Posted by: freakzilla | December 17, 2010 2:41 PM

Agreed. And I was never a fan of bringing the Eagles icon here.

But you gotta admit, he brought an impressive resume with him.... he's proven he can be a highly productive QB as recently as last year, when he was selected to the Pro Bowl and his team won 11 games.

The only thing that changed was the talent and scheme around him.

Posted by: Alan4 | December 17, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

No matter what happens, if we lose McNabb, we will have lost a true gentleman. While others were ranting and raving, he spoke on a even keel and made sense when he opened his mouth. There were never any threats made nor ultimatums laid down. I personally think he has been handed a rotten deal. But that seems to be pro sports.

Posted by: mbrumble | December 17, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

btw, shanny has never developed a young qb in his career... he inherited elway then got plummer...

Posted by: jimmy_the_crickett | December 17, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Cutler, Jay.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 17, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Boycott? I've been boycotting this team for about 5 years now.

My first football memory is crying when Marcus Allen zig zagged his way down the field, dooming the Skins in SB 18. I grew up loving this team and continued to do so through the first few years of Snyder's debauchery. Now, what is there to like? What is there to root for? I can't take my family to games because there are so many drunk, vulgar fans who know absolutely NOTHING about football. I can't get excited about anything they do because obviously, they have NO clue on how to build a decent franchise and the owner is so vile and money hungry that his perversion has seeped into the core of the organization.

I hate to say it but JKC brought this all about by insisting the team be put up for sale in order to benefit charity. Well I sure hope those charities used that money wisely because that decision DOOMED the Redskins FOREVER. Snyder is not selling the team...never going to happen. He will run it into the ground before that happens and why shouldn't he? This idiotic fan base continues to stuff his pockets. They cheer him and his moves in the off season then they cry and moan around week 10 once it's obvious the team isn't going anywhere.

WORST.....ORGANIZATION.....EVERRRRRRRRRR

Posted by: N07H4NX | December 17, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan will never admit that his son is a God awful coordinator....... We allknow Kyle sucks and his play calling is something out of pop warner.

Posted by: Sincear2021 | December 17, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Shanny said on ESPN 980, that yes, if Mc5 is not back next year...it would have been a big mistake on his half.

You must respect Shanny. There are not too many coaches that admit that, and doing it know so it doesn't cause anymore damage.

He told Mc5 straight up, you may not be here next year. I like the fact that he give it to his players straight.

Posted by: roccoskins | December 17, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

No doubt about it now. We are now official the worst ran NFL team in the league. What a soap opera. Until we stop having off field drama every week we will always be more pretenders than contenders.

Posted by: RealOne1 | December 17, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

$1 million says McNabb throws up silly numbers where ever he is next year.

Posted by: jwm1974 | December 17, 2010 2:52 PM

I'll take that bet...and raise you $1 million.

Posted by: PlayAction | December 17, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Guess we finally have an answer to the question McNabb was asking the city of Washington all through the off-season club seat marketing campaign -- "R U IN?"

Posted by: Vic1 | December 17, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Lemmie get this straight - McNabb was a pro bowl QB for years with the Eagles and consistently made the playoffs, even getting to the Super Bowl in the one year he had a top tier receiver.

So you bring him to a pathetic 4-12 team with a swiss cheese offensive line, battered running backs, porous defense, and stone handed receivers and somehow it's HIS fault that we didn't do well this season!? I don't know what games Shanahan was watching but all I remember is McNabb running for his life on every down, countless dropped passes, and a truly miserable running game.

I hope McNabb gets traded to another team where he has a respectable roster around him so he can tell Shanahan and Reid where to stick it. Rex Grossman as the Redskins starting QB... now that just seems like destiny.

Posted by: eduardo2 | December 17, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

But he kept the kicker? And who is playing DT again? Only a matter of time before he gets fired. Shanny must go. He is old and done. The game has passed him by. And he will never fire his son - who is clueless. Real talk: All you Shanny apologists need to cut it out. Grossman sucks. Play the "young studs" ? Shanny did not draft any. Hail to the Redskins? I've had enough of the Redskins. Checking out the Ravens Sunday.

Posted by: MikeMIke3 | December 17, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

I'll stop with the shannannigans! But this is a great point that a lot of ya'll fan failed to see. Shanny has never developed any young players period. He inherited a VETERAN O-LINE in Denver and once IT go decimated Shanny looked helpless! Shanny is nothing but a copy of Gibbs in that they both prefer OLDER players, this worked back in the day, now you HAVE to develop your own players in order to remain competitive. Big Blue Fan here.

Posted by: Incognito00 | December 17, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

So, the 7+ years of film on Grossman aren't enough? I guess what's really happening is he's trying to figure out if he can pick a QB in next years draft and transition quickly from Grossman to the new QB. If not, he keeps McNabb one more season. Grossman and Beck certainly aren't the answer at QB.

Posted by: elkiii_2008 | December 17, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

No matter what happens, if we lose McNabb, we will have lost a true gentleman. While others were ranting and raving, he spoke on a even keel and made sense when he opened his mouth. There were never any threats made nor ultimatums laid down. I personally think he has been handed a rotten deal. But that seems to be pro sports.

Posted by: mbrumble | December 17, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

sooo, Allen and Shanahan aren't on same page?

or, Snyder still has his thumb in the pie?

both?

thoughts on this?

RSVP

Posted by: pabrian2003 | December 17, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

UNREAL!!!!! Donovan - it's been real. See you in AZ or MN.

Hey coach Mike, I can tell you right now where you'll be QB-wise at the end of the season - You'll be needing a new franchise QB!

So, IF they can't draft a QB in round 1, fans will be subjected to some journeyman hack QB next year (do I hear Derek Anderson's name - LOL) and a whole lot more of the same on the field of what we've been subjected to this year.

Rex & Beck should not be in any equation except how to hold a clipboard. Amazing! and so the worm turns. McNabb = scapegoat #??

Posted by: notamullethead | December 17, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Yes, Shanny was straightforward on 980 with Doc Walker and Coach Thompson.

And I agree with Doc Walker about any players that may be grumbling about McNabb's benching: What the hell have any of them done to help this team win games this year?

They can all shut up, and understand that cutting McNabb loose means that any one of them is expendable.

Finally, there are no sacred cows out at Ashburn.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | December 17, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

hot nickle beeps

Posted by: RomoLongballs | December 17, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

If McNabb is playing for Mini-soda or Zona next year, I'll bet he won't have one bounce pass against us.

Posted by: bangkokben | December 17, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Mack1 etal, I get your points, but why this is a debacle is that all of this was unneeded drama and shows some huge miscalculations made by Shanahallen at the onset. Would would lead them to believe, especially coupled with defensive scheme change, that they compete and thus McNabb, LJ, Slow Willie, Galloway etc?

If this is where we are than they could have kept Campbell for pennies on the dollar b/c of uncapped year and signed Little Baby Shanny's pet Sexy Rexy to compete. If one of them flipped the script on their career trajectory, than great...of not you set yourselves up for QB de al futura anyway.

Instead the Skins seems to bumble from one move to the next....pooping away draft picks, being "hopeful" with AH and thus losing any chance to either buy in or trade him when you could get something, changing D schemes when the unit at constructed might have kept you semi-competitive and so on...

Also, fathers shouldnt work with sons. I apologize if I offend any good father/son deals out there, but its frought with emotional drama. IN this case it plays out in public for all to see and we gotta deal. Little Baby Shanny should have said "no thanks Dad, I seem to have a good thing here in houston and am going to try to make it on my own merits....well that is past the fact that your protige is my boss...by why sweat the deets."

Posted by: chrislarry | December 17, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Gang,

for anybody who has watched every skins game this year, it's obvious that dm5 is not the answer. How many times have you watched dm5 throw the ball into the ground at the feet of the receivers? It's painful to watch. The coaches see DM5 in practice and on game film and know better than all of us fans how to make football decisions. Now, they are human and make mistakes, but i know they are doing it with the best interests of the team first off. Vinny and zorn trashed this organization and lombardi himself couldn't come in here and fix it in one year.

Posted by: whogivesasht | December 17, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

THE SKINS JUST DONT GET IT...MCNABBS NOT THE PROBLEM, YOU COULD PUT 10 MCNABBS BACK THERE AND THEY WOULD STILL LOOSE,,THE SKINS WILL NEVER BE A CONTENDER UNTIL THEY GET AN OFFENSIVE LINE,,,,,,SIMPLE

Posted by: mralexva | December 17, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

And the cycle repeats itself. A 2nd round pick flushed down the toilet. The impact of this 2nd rounder will not really be felt for another 3 years - just like all the draft picks that have been given away or wasted the prior 10 years. And this 2nd rounder did not even come close the the "win now" battlecry. I cry for you RedSkins fans.

Posted by: MDL7 | December 17, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

For the first time in over 10 years I will not be watching the game on Sunday. I will not be attending the last home nor will I be renewing my season tickets. I never would have thought it possible, but I hate this team

Posted by: jblacknj | December 17, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

THE SKINS JUST DONT GET IT...MCNABBS NOT THE PROBLEM, YOU COULD PUT 10 MCNABBS BACK THERE AND THEY WOULD STILL LOOSE,,THE SKINS WILL NEVER BE A CONTENDER UNTIL THEY GET AN OFFENSIVE LINE,,,,,,SIMPLE

Posted by: mralexva | December 17, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

THE SKINS JUST DONT GET IT...MCNABBS NOT THE PROBLEM, YOU COULD PUT 10 MCNABBS BACK THERE AND THEY WOULD STILL LOOSE,,THE SKINS WILL NEVER BE A CONTENDER UNTIL THEY GET AN OFFENSIVE LINE,,,,,,SIMPLE

Posted by: mralexva | December 17, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan wastes Dan's money faster than Cerrato or Dan ever could. This guy was a bad choice of a coach. Another big name signing and waste of $$$$.

Posted by: alaskantuf_99 | December 17, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Can't wait to see how Larry Michael manages to spin this.

Posted by: JohnnyRyde | December 17, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan explained his reasoning for the surprising McNabb-Grossman move, saying he hopes to get a better understanding of the strength of the Redskins at the quarterback position
============================
Again, I'm blinded by the genius of the man.........what strength?

Posted by: RealConservative | December 17, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

As an Eagles fan living in DC, I feel sorry for you guys. I knew you were getting a washed up player. The win at the Linc was a last hurrah for McNabb. He's a class guy, and I wish him well, but it won't happen for him here; maybe as a veteran backup with a decent team. Good luck with the rebuilding. It's about time you guys stop getting old players and think -- this is the year. It's not the year and it won't be the year around here for some time.

Posted by: cjsn | December 17, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Let me put it this way: My reaction to the trade for McNabb was "Oh, wow" instead of "Oh, no". And do note that I even said "Oh no" to Snyder's first marque trade, namely the one for Neon Deion Sanders. If Shanahan wants to take advantage of the fact that the 'Skins' fate is already sealed, then so be it. I for one will say that I cannot see Rex Grossman as being a better answer then McNabb. As for John Beck: It would be nice if he could be the future Redskins starting quaterback, but we will have to see on that.

IMO, McNabb needs more time and a better offensive line to work behind. He also needs the defense to perform better: He cannot win games when he is not on the field or where the 'Skins are constantly coming from 20+ points down. He can lead the 'Skins to the playoffs and even the Super Bowl, but no longer is good enough to carry the team there on his own shoulders.

My feeling that McNabb still has a few good years left in him. I would not mind seeing him play for the 'Skins during those years. If not, then I hope that Allen, Shanahan and company can come up with a better answer for the quarterback position. That may be far from impossible, but even with McNabb's abilities waning that still is a tall order.

Posted by: ems57fcva | December 17, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

well I guess is "F me" cuz F the Redskins. i wont waste another penny on them...period!!

Posted by: 20bello | December 17, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Boycott money grubbing Snyder, now. I've had enough.

Posted by: password11 | December 17, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

This franchise has turned into a laughingstock. McNabb has not been great but considering weak OL, inconsistent running game, lacking weapons at WR, poor game planning by Kyle and game mismanagement by Mike, I think he's done a damn good job. I think this is nothing more than another attempt by Mike Shanahan to scapegoat someone for this teams failures. Who brought McNabb in but then didn't give him the weapons to be successful? Did anyone out there really believe Joey Galloway was still a starting WR in this league? Everyone in the NFL knew he was washed up 4 or 5 years ago but the "genius" Shanahan felt he was a viable starter. Remeber it was also Shanahan who brought in Larry Johnson and Willie Parker at RB and both were gone before a quarter of the season was gone. Shanny isn't as smart as he thinks and he's just looking to shove the blame on McNabb.

For all you Shanahan backers, take a look at his last 4 years coaching. His record has been 9-7, 7-9, 8-8, and now 5-8. And those first three years were in the weak AFC West. Shanahan won the SB in 1997 and 1998 and he's still living on those memories. Even the Haynesworth situation, though AH was in the wrong, Shanahan's ego got in the way of him trying to work it out with one of the most talented players on the team. There is a reason Pat Bowlen let him go. Shanahan wanted full personnel control and Bowlen realized that Shanny didn't have it like that anymore.

The Shanahan's are going to drive this franchise even further into the ground. I certainly hope Bruce Allen starts to assert his power on personnel moves or this is going to get much worse. I know it won't happen but I wouldn't be the least bit disappointed if Snyder cuts bait with Shanahan and starts over.

Posted by: txskinsfan1 | December 17, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

btw, shanny has never developed a young qb in his career... he inherited elway then got plummer...

Posted by: jimmy_the_crickett | December 17, 2010 2:37 PM

Steve Young says hi.

Posted by: wireman65 | December 17, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

I can't help thinking this is part of Danny's master plan.

"See? THIS is what happens when I refuse to meddle, and stay on the sidelines! Someone ELSE can run our franchise into the ground and embarass it. Shanny can take the heat instead of me. Soon the fans will BEG me to make some whacko signing of another 55 year old assistant with no coordinator or head coaching experience, or a hot college coach du jour, and I'll bring Vinny back! It'll be just like old times!" :p

Posted by: blackjack65 | December 17, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

This franchise has turned into a laughingstock. McNabb has not been great but considering weak OL, inconsistent running game, lacking weapons at WR, poor game planning by Kyle and game mismanagement by Mike, I think he's done a damn good job. I think this is nothing more than another attempt by Mike Shanahan to scapegoat someone for this teams failures. Who brought McNabb in but then didn't give him the weapons to be successful? Did anyone out there really believe Joey Galloway was still a starting WR in this league? Everyone in the NFL knew he was washed up 4 or 5 years ago but the "genius" Shanahan felt he was a viable starter. Remeber it was also Shanahan who brought in Larry Johnson and Willie Parker at RB and both were gone before a quarter of the season was gone. Shanny isn't as smart as he thinks and he's just looking to shove the blame on McNabb.

For all you Shanahan backers, take a look at his last 4 years coaching. His record has been 9-7, 7-9, 8-8, and now 5-8. And those first three years were in the weak AFC West. Shanahan won the SB in 1997 and 1998 and he's still living on those memories. Even the Haynesworth situation, though AH was in the wrong, Shanahan's ego got in the way of him trying to work it out with one of the most talented players on the team. There is a reason Pat Bowlen let him go. Shanahan wanted full personnel control and Bowlen realized that Shanny didn't have it like that anymore.

The Shanahan's are going to drive this franchise even further into the ground. I certainly hope Bruce Allen starts to assert his power on personnel moves or this is going to get much worse. I know it won't happen but I wouldn't be the least bit disappointed if Snyder cuts bait with Shanahan and starts over.

Posted by: txskinsfan1 | December 17, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

"R you in?"

More like "we fold"

Posted by: Scoonie97 | December 17, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

So, Redskins fans will be paying regular season ticket prices to watch pre-season evaluation games?

Posted by: daljr61 | December 17, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

I told you DONKEYS last week that the DEADSKINS were over. You give a man a BONUS than you bench him. This company is ran by a bunch of IDIOTS.

Posted by: access11 | December 17, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan is a joke! Dan Snyder needs to get rid of him. Soon, Shanahan will run out of people to blame for his incompetence. GET RID OF HIM!!!

Posted by: Amelgepo | December 17, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Real Redskins fans stand up. All those people that want to stop rooting for this team, F U!

Posted by: roccoskins | December 17, 2010 2:41 PM

Hear, hear.

Posted by: wireman65 | December 17, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

F Chad Dukes. I hate this fat F with a passion. Something about his face and what comes out of his mouth makes me want shove my fist in his suck hole.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 17, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Agreed. How this gas bag is on the radio is beyond me.

And as for his sidekick, you can count one of two things happening every day; he'll either go into 'roid rage or play the race card. Guaranteed.

Posted by: password11 | December 17, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

REDSKINS PREPARE FOR 2011 SEASON AUDITIONS

Donovan McNabb is out like a ball thrown into the dirt.

Now we get to see Rex Grossman when he has more than 2 minutes to play which means he'll have 5 fumbles, 5 interceptions, 5 completions, and 5 sacks.

2011 won't look much better. Just think of all the Sunday's Redskins fans will now have in which to do things on the "Honey Do List".

Meanwhile Donovan and Fat Albert will be yucking it up - both having raided the Snyder Treasury for vast sums of money and both playing partial seasons.

In the interest of being fair, there should be a tryout of the people we haven't played and which are unknown commodities. However, even the dead Ray Charles can see Rex Grossman is like the car you would have to pay someone to take.

Now on to the list of things to do around the house....

Posted by: laserwizard | December 17, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

just what established QB will come into this debacle-in-waiting?

the skins will suck for the next 8 years. you read it here.

Posted by: ae-inc | December 17, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

this is the worst decision at the worst time......There goes the Dallas - Skins rivalry...cuz the Skins WILL NOT WIN or EVEN put UP A FIGHT WITH BUM AZZ REX (I CANT PLAY)GROSSMAN!!!

Posted by: 20bello | December 17, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

I won't bash Shanahan yet......but I will question his son's playcalling in the redzone many times over last week. We should have been up 21-0 on Tampa early (and maybe even 28-0).

Posted by: 1fasthoo | December 17, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

I have run out of words for this team!

Posted by: jtrob_1 | December 17, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Let's see what Grossman's got. It's scary, but isn't that what makes rooting for this team fun? Most entertaining season in a long time IMO. Lots of moves in the right direction, even if we had some mistakes and setbacks. Shanny either
A) knows Grossman is terrible, and is using him to lose games to obtain a higher draft pick
B) legitimately wants to test Rex out to see what kind of player hes gonna turn out to be in this offense.

Either way it's fun to think about!

Posted by: WishboneJr | December 17, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan needs to do what the Bucs and Ravens have done:

GO YOUNG. DRAFT LINEMAN FIRST. Not single tool beasts like Orapko who can only rush the passer (see stoopid vision of NFL by Vinnie Cerrato and Dan Snyder).

DRAFT big guys who are fast, can block and tackle and move the opponents line! FIRST! Then worry about the quarterback. Grossman, Beck and yes, Jason Campbell would be fine quarterbacks. Campbell WAS the better choice for this team!! You don't need the world's greatest running back, a guy like Larry Brown (an eighth round pick) would be perfect. Not primadonna's like CP26 gone and good riddance!!! NO primadonna toolsy receivers!

STOP trying to nibble at the damned edges. Go straight for the middle. In other words: THE LINES. DRAFT a Samuels, a Lachey, a Manley, a Mann, a Butz, NOT spoiled kid athletes who don't care at all.

How do we know this can be done? The damned Ravens have been doing IT! And laughing with unbridled glee at the soap opera / catastrophe known as the Redskins.

Posted by: periculum | December 17, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

I get the feeling that Vinny Cerato is laughing his a$$ off.

Posted by: coparker5 | December 17, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

So with Rex at the controls, will Mike and Kyle institute their revolutionary "directional fumbling" offensive system?

Posted by: fwiw_in_NoVa | December 17, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

You so called "fans" are pathetic. Most of you can flip in a heartbeat. I remember when we signed McNabb ALL of you bashed Eagles fans for the disrespect that they showed him. And now look at you, bashing him day in and day out. I'm not saying that he deserves to play. He hasn't done anything on the field to deserve to play. You also made Shannahan our savior and now are ready to can him after one season. You guys bash the way VC did things around here and yet you are calling for the same changes that he would have made. Fire the coaching staff after one season, sign V Jax and give him whatever he wants. Being a fan is being a fan, REGARDLESS! It doesn't mean you can't be frustrated. God knows I scream at my TV every game. But willing to bail on the team just shows your lack of dedication. And MS and BA know what they are doing. How many full seasons has McNabb played? If he gets injured his trade value plummets and they know this. A benched McNabb is more valuable than an injured McNabb.

Posted by: SkinsFan771 | December 17, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Hello Redskins! Welcome to ShanneyLand, land of one big ego and a lot of dwarfs. Once he has ensconced his family in lucrative positions, "Coach" Mike will get around to his real task, making sure it's all Mike all the time. Welcome to a Bronco rerun. Now do you know why they fired him? I'll give you another 2 years, no 1 year, then you will be begging Snyder to fire him again. Shanney is an egotistical loser on the level of, say, Donald Trump. This should be good. Can you say "Good night", Mike.

Posted by: jrw1 | December 17, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Wow. Another draft pick(s) given away for someone who never produced a thing for the Redskins. Brandon Lloyd, TJ Duckett, Jason Taylor, and now DMAC. Will someone in the front office of this franchise please just commit to rebuilding. The fans, at this point, would probably love you for it. If you can get a Luck (if he comes out) or a Newton in the draft, do it. Or trade down in first and pick up another qb and another pick or two and rebuild your OL and DL. Been a fan for 36 of my 40 years, even saw Charley Taylor catch a TD pass. This is really the lowest point it has ever been, even more than the Fake FG (twice) last year

Posted by: Chip42 | December 17, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

I didn't think McNabb was the answer in the first place, but benching him for Rex Grossman? Seriously? I'd rather line-up Brandon Banks at QB and have him run or hand it off to Torrain all game long.

Posted by: alecw81 | December 17, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Lack of dedication..ok lets break it down. Early on we could nolonger walk up to Fed Ex we had to park 5 miles away and pay $20 to be shuttled there. We pay these ridiculous prices for everything and all we want is wins. ok maybe that too much to ask but when it comes to Dallas YOU DONT SIT THE QB THAT GIVES U THE BEST CHANCE OF WINNING. What exactly has Grossman shown us...oh I remember...he was sacked, fumbled and gave DETROIT a TD. Those at the top of the Redskins organization care NOTHING about fans SO Y THE FUC shud we continue supporting them????

Posted by: 20bello | December 17, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

I thought that nothing could get any worse than the circus that is in Dallas. It cost a lot to see an NFL regular season game and now the Redskins have decided to start training camp in week #13. If I had season tickets I would sue the Redskins for not putting their best team on the field. Redskin ticket holders must be Rich!

Posted by: mervin13 | December 17, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Great trade giving up those draft choices for McNabb. This organization has to be the most incompetent, stupid, dysfunctional, miserable, classless, petty, toxic, clueless, non-professional collection of losers in all of sports. A close second might be the Wizards.

Posted by: randysbailin | December 17, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

I never would have thought it possible, but I hate this team

Posted by: jblacknj | December 17, 2010 3:03 PM |


You won't be missed.

Posted by: wireman65 | December 17, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Somewhere Zorn (on his way to the playoffs) and Vinny (still collecting $$$ from Snyder) are laughing their *sses off!

Holding "tryout" during Dallas week?? WTF???

He should be telling Kyle that he won't be back next year.

Posted by: Kolchak | December 17, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Wow - the first intelligent thing I've seen this team do in weeks.

Anyone who doesn't understand this or finds this "surprising" needs to realize the Redskins need to replace about 75% of their roster over the next 3 years to be competitive again.

Benching McNabb now saves us the 3rd round pick we'd have to give up to Philadelphia for him starting every game.

Posted by: mac2j | December 17, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

won't bash Shanahan yet......but I will question his son's playcalling in the redzone many times over last week. We should have been up 21-0 on Tampa early (and maybe even 28-0).

Posted by: 1fasthoo | December 17, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Not just last week but over the course of the year; idiotic playcalling and incomprehensible clock management (what was Shanahan doing at the end of the first half last week??)

One thing Shanahan has accomplished.....Jim Zorn doesn't look quite as bad now :-)

Posted by: txskinsfan1 | December 17, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse

What is more important to Mike Shanahan than securing another Super Bowl win? Securing his son's future in football...Thats why they will draft a bright shiny new QB who will think Kyle is his boss...rather than what you know Donovan thinks...Probably the right thing to do anyway... given this teams age...
But thats why the purposeful humiliation of McNabb and a pretend tryout for a proven loser...

Posted by: Naptowner2010 | December 17, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse

So, Redskins fans will be paying regular season ticket prices to watch pre-season evaluation games?

Posted by: daljr61 | December 17, 2010 3:13 PM
That's what we do in the preseason, except we give the tickets away.

Posted by: wireman65 | December 17, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan is showing why nepotism, i.e. monarchy governments always fail over time: Daddy can't admit his seed would have been better off still-born. If it weren't for the luck of Elway, the world would say, "Mike who"?

Posted by: citizen625 | December 17, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

This is my first post after five long years of lurking in this hotbed of frustrated cynicism we call RI.

This isn't about "backing" Shanahan. It's about using three otherwise meaningless games to evaluate Rex Grossman, give him some real playing time under real game conditions, and decide if he's the answer for a stopgap or a backup QB.

McNabb had his chance. Hell, he had 13 chances. He performed well in 5 or 6 of those 13 games. Not even 50%. How many open receivers did he NOT EVEN SEE?? The film tells the story...how many times did we see a replay from McNabb's perspective, with a wide-open receiver RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIM, even wide open IN THE END ZONE, and McNabb didn't throw it to the open guy?

Please. Get this guy out of here like sh*t through a goose. He was a sorry choking Eagle who never deserved to wear the burgundy & gold. Shanny is being a realist here and more power to him for pulling the trigger.

In fact, I'll go on record right now and predict a strong outing by Rex Grossman. That's right I said it. Grossman is in tune with this offensive scheme and this offensive coordinator. He's been running this system for years. He took the Bears to a Super Bowl with some CLUTCH wins, and don't be fooled by casual know-nothings who give all the credit to the Bear's defense. Sure, Grossman's mistakes were magnified on the highlight reels, so what. Anyone who bothered to actually WATCH the games knows that Rex Grossman has balls, and a strong arm that can make all the throws. Add his knowledge of this system, give him time to throw, and he can win games.

Posted by: DC2Cali | December 17, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Why did we get McNabb in the first place and give up and 2nd and 4th to get him?

Posted by: dabwilldo40 | December 17, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

As has been said over and over, build the O'line and good things will happen. Insert any QB behind our O'line and you will get the same results as before. I remember Snyder telling JC that he wanted a pro bowl QB (like that would solve all of our problems). Hopefully, he now realizes that it does not matter who you have behind the center if the rest of the line sucks. Enter Shanny: now you have two guys running the team that do not have a clue. Shanny has never built up a team, tore a couple down, but never built one up. He is not the answer for the 'Skins.

Posted by: SPUD2 | December 17, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Coach Shanawho - you might bench urself and son too!

Posted by: KrautKiller | December 17, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Translation: The only reason Donovan McNabb has been playing since the Detroit week is to give the fans the impression that the Redskins were still "playing to win" In reality, I would have made the move during the Detroit week, because this team has no chance of winning anything this season. I should have just sent the team to the UFL and let the players "be evaluated" instead of alienating some of the most loyal fans of any NFL team... Oh... and the Cowboys are just any other NFL team. There is no truth about this game being any sort of rivalry. In Rex we Trust.

Posted by: alwayswaitingtilnextyear | December 17, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

all I can say is the foreskins really suck..

Posted by: joey72 | December 17, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

I don't think Shanahan minds getting into a better draft position if we lose.

Posted by: OintheSierras | December 17, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

I've been a Redskin fan since the days of Larry Brown, Charley Taylor, Sonny and Billy, etc.. Good Ownership make the difference. Can we all look at the Snyder won loss record? Winning owners produce winning teams. I'm still looking for my money lost in Red Zone and Six Flaggs. A whole generation of Redskins fans are being lost to the Ravens, Steelers, Eagles and Giants... not to mention the Cowboys if this ownership does not get its act together. How can you lose a sure thing with one of the most valued franchises in sports?

Posted by: naopak | December 17, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

What are the conditions on the 2011 pick that was packaged as part of the original McNabb trade?

Was the 2011 3rd or 4th round pick conditional on a certain number of starts, Skins record, stats, or some other factor?

Posted by: JPRS | December 17, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Coming to DC next year: Ryan Mallett and Vincent Jackson.

Posted by: Aerowaz | December 17, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Now those who paid big bucks for season tickets can again enjoy preseason games.

Posted by: whocares666 | December 17, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Somewhere, Vinny is having a hearty laugh...
Muhahahahahahaha

"Yesh, once they let me go, all will be well with the Skins". I blame the Cowboys O'line man.

If only he did not hold on that play. We could be in prime position for the number one draft pick.

Posted by: samiismoni14 | December 17, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

"..there's nothing [McNabb] could do in the three games that would influence [Shanahan] of what he's done over the last 13 games." Seriously? Well, there's nothing Grossman can do in the next three games that would change my mind of what he's done over his entire lousy pro career.

Posted by: nuzuw | December 17, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

I am glad that I stuck with my team from childhood: NY Giants. If you are a diehard Skins fan, I feel sorry for you.

Posted by: wapdoodle | December 17, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

What are the conditions on the 2011 pick that was packaged as part of the original McNabb trade?

Was the 2011 3rd or 4th round pick conditional on a certain number of starts, Skins record, stats, or some other factor?
------------------------------------

It turns into a 3rd rounder based on several performance benchmarks ... I think it was start every game, have over 3500 yards passing and one other and it was automatically a 3rd if he made the pro bowl or something.

Posted by: mac2j | December 17, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

4-5 years from now, when the Redskins are still in the back third, someone will figure out it's Shanahan who needs to be benched. He's the problem, not McNabb. Of course, I loved watching the Broncos and Shanahan lose when he was out here but I wouldn't have wished him on the Redskins.

Posted by: rias2500 | December 17, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Hopefully tanking the season will lead to a better draft position. Donnie and Butterworth will most likely get cut, not traded for value.

Posted by: McFlabb | December 17, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

all you softies who have been complaining for years about the skins not getting any better are now complaining because you finally got what you said you wanted - a coach who is focused on creating a winning team, not worrying about hurting people's feelings. I like McNabb - great guy, but he wasn't playing very well this season. That should be obvious to most people. If both Grossman and Beck suck too, then trying to draft a new QB or get another one from free agency is the way to go. This is called progress people.

Posted by: johnfchick1 | December 17, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

No matter who the QB is next year, the Redskins still don't have an offensive line worth anything. The NFL is supposedly a copycat league. All the teams that have won Superbowls in the past decade have had great offensive lines and solid running games. The Redskins haven't had either in quite some time.

Sincerely,

A Giants Fan

Posted by: tohara1 | December 17, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

All this talk about not wanting to go to the stadium to see a preseason game. And suing them? What nonsense. First of all, 2 of the 3 remaining games are away games and they'd know that if they were ticket-holders anyway. Second, McNabb is an ex-starter who was going to get benched in Philadelphia, but who has previously had some success. We took a chance with him, and it didn't work out. Rex Grossman is also an ex-starter who has had success in the past. Now we'll see what he has. I would rather see that than McNabb throw the ball in the grass 10 more times. I'd rather watch that and hope than go into the game knowing the Skins will be lucky to score 14 points.

Posted by: OintheSierras | December 17, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

This Sunday's game should be train wreck bad, like the Eagles game. It will be "can't miss TV".

Just when you thoguht the franchise was in as much disarray as possible, it only gets better!

Posted by: 54465446 | December 17, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

I don't think #5 is the problem, although granted he is not having a good season. The weak link is by far the O-line and the lack of young, athletic players. I will be very surprised if RexG is effective against the Cowboys. He won't have any time on the pass plays if they can't establish a run against Dallas. RexG will look awful. So what kind of evaluation will that be?? So now we watch RexG run around with no protection. Better take your Advil.

Posted by: Redtopper2 | December 17, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Lol yea Dc2Cali. The only reason Grossman's not a starter in this league is because people are fooled. Has nothing to do with his track record

Oh, and one down year will not kill McNabb. But at least Grossman knows the system

Posted by: smooth700 | December 17, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Am I the only one who really thought this year was going to be different?

Posted by: bethesdaguy | December 17, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

If he wants to know anything about Grossman, get the game films from Chicago. Who the hell want's to know what he can do when you know he probably won't even be here next year. Then again go ahead, none of us are probably going to live long enough to see them become winners anyway, unless Snyder dies or sells.

Posted by: goslin57 | December 17, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

all you retards who always say, uhh uhh lets beat dallas and i'll be alright! the heck with ya! I rather be 14-2 and lose both games to dallas, and be competitive and good, than to be satisfied w/ crums.

I never agreed w/ this McNabb trade, it always bothered me the fact we gave away a 2nd round pick (coulda gotten Colt McCoy, who already this season started with the browns and beat down the Patriots 34-16.)

It bothers me to hear those who bash Shannahan, (who I admit has a big ego) who try to justify that fact that McNabb is a washed up QB, who behind a better line would perform better...really? you think? he's flaws and mistakes are the same...remeber cooley last week? wide open for a first down? MCNABB WAS A PRO BOWLER! and I hate it when I lot of fans, talk about him like if he is untouchable, and make a up a bunch of excuses that his line this and that, hes un upgrade, bla bla bla! an upgrade who can make great plays but gives away 21 points with his rookie type of interceptions?

I love the style of our new managment, cut ties with diva Haynesworth (yes took too long but he showed who is boss!) second, McNabb washed up, bye bye, enough said who is in control.

If you asked me, management wise comparing to last year we are better. Shannahan is the man! only suggestion lets keep our draft picks!

Posted by: slvtruco21 | December 17, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Maybe they should have benched the offensive coordinator - Kyle Shanahan.

The least they should have done was kept him around to train a future quarterback.

See Eagles and Michael Vick.

I guess Shanahan is at least telling us what he really thinks. Somehow, it seems that they should have made the decision a bit sooner, and saved 3.5 million dollars.

Posted by: Benson | December 17, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

If he wants to know anything about Grossman, get the game films from Chicago. Who the hell want's to know what he can do when you know he probably won't even be here next year. Then again go ahead, none of us are probably going to live long enough to see them become winners anyway, unless Snyder dies or sells.

Posted by: goslin57 | December 17, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

another comment, I believe Beck should start the game against the Jaguars next week, to see what he can do.

Posted by: slvtruco21 | December 17, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Wow...this is like Deja Vu all over again...Crappy team, crappy season, crappy outlook for the future...hey, at least we had one more win compared to last season. Or we fired Zorn and got rid of Campbell...FOR THIS???

Posted by: eello | December 17, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Grossman over McNabb? Sounds to me like Shanahan may not be around much longer! What a joke.

Posted by: portico6 | December 17, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins don't deserve a guy as classy as Mcnabb. This is the best thing that happened to donovan he should be jumping up and down knowing he doesn't have to play for the Rat and the WORST FRANCHISE IN THE NFL! Meanwhile right up North the Ravens PREPARE for their 3rd straight year in the Postseason yet you wouldn't even know it if you read the post. Eff Dan Snyder root for the Local Owner with Local Roots Stevie B.!

Posted by: jdb70 | December 17, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Mike Shanahan has lost his mind.

Posted by: warshauer | December 17, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Redskins have moved one step closer to their go-to guy: John Beck.

Posted by: jakfish | December 17, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Well, I've reached the point of.......WHO THE FU#% CARES

Posted by: kingpenn1 | December 17, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

WOW! 2nd Rounder GONE! What a waste. Let's get Colt Brennan back, hehe. Hope he's OK from his accident.

Posted by: harbirsingh


I have to laugh at all the mistakes and mismanagement by Shanahan x 2! I agree that Colt would have been a vast improvement over the lousy decision making from these wonderful QB's and Bronco's destroying managers. I said it before and will say it now, Shanahan was nothing without JOHN ELWAY and the Redskins are doomed again. Shoulda kept Colt!

Posted by: KurtShanaman | December 17, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

you can tell shanahan is psycho just by looking at him. dude can't look anyone straight on without his face looking like it'll crack into dusty pieces he's so frickin wound up. nutjob.

its not like they don't have several seasons of grossman already playing in nfl games to look at and "evaluate" him.

snyder's reign of lunacy continues.

Posted by: malcolmyoung1 | December 17, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

I pray there's something else the public doesn't know... like McNabb likes under aged girls or something because this in insane.

This franchise is a sad joke. Why would you sign the guy and then bench him?

It appears McNabb was shoved on Shannahan when he didn't want him. I wonder if this is a power struggle between Shannahan and Snyder? Makes no F---ing sense!

I'm so sick of the drama

Posted by: mriley0223 | December 17, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Members of Congress can breathe a sigh of relief because no matter how low they may slip in public approval polls, neither the U.S. Senate nor the U.S. House of Representatives should be considered as the most disappointing institution or organization in the Nation's Capital, for that distinction inevitably devolves upon the Washington Redskins of the National Football League.

The treatment of Donovan McNabb by the Redkins' coaching staff is not just an appalling single incident of managerial neglect and disrespect. It represents a season-long show of bad faith by a professional sports franchise that is much beloved among the American people. Fans who were not even primarily Redskins partisans began following the team at the beginning of the year to see how they would fare under a proven quarterback who had achieved a definite playing style and approach to running an NFL offense.

The Redskins should have never traded for McNabb if they weren't willing to make the effort to build up the team around this quarterback's remarkable strengths and abilities. Of all the cities in America which needed a boost in public support and affection, none were more needy or deserving than Washington, but this high-handed treatment of one of the country's premier athletes is enough to make even long-time staunch defenders of Washington, D.C., as an urban shrine for this country think twice about endorsing the way one of its leading organizations has chosen to do business not only with its own personnel but also with the people of the District of Columbia and indeed caring citizens across the land.

Donovan McNabb was following in the great NFL quarterbacking tradition of Sonny Jurgensen, who played with distinction for the Philadelphia Eagles and the Washington Redskins. In fact, McNabb's solid approach to pushing his team forward is reminiscent of Jurgensen's run-and-throw power offense of an earlier era.

One would think that it would be most difficult to top the arrogance of the Redskins' overall treatment of McNabb, but the coaching staff nonetheless managed to do this by keeping McNabb "on retainer," so to speak, so long as the team had a chance to make the playoffs.

It would perhaps take a Shakespeare to adequately dramatize the tragedy of the Washington Redskins' blatant undermining of its own Eleventh Knight. Or, as Voltaire or Baudelaire might have put it, this team's "joi de vivre" has given way to a "fin d'annee ennui."

David P. McKnight
Durham, N.C.

Posted by: Proctor2 | December 17, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????-No words needed to describe this move.

Posted by: poeticfire | December 17, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

I believe that McNabb and Grossman will not be back next year. Albert is gone. Portis will be next. Philip Daniels and Mike Sellers will also follow them. The receivers should be next. I love Cooley, give him a chance with a top team and get a high draft pick. A center and two guards are must be top priority. DB are a laugh. DL needs two new men. I hate to say it but also trade London Fletcher to pick up needed draft picks and give him a chance with a Super Bowl contender. Three years from now we could contend. Please no more "name" players in the off season.

Posted by: zebra59 | December 17, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

I'm just tired of the continuing Snyder cluster F#$k! Obviously shanahan and his son needs to go....Rex GROSSMAN PLEASE!!!! 20 years of this crap.......continues. Who would of thought the Best Hire was MARTY!!!

Posted by: LongTimeSkinsFan | December 17, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

I'm just tired of the continuing Snyder cluster F#$k! Obviously shanahan and his son needs to go....Rex GROSSMAN PLEASE!!!! 20 years of this crap.......continues. Who would of thought the Best Hire was MARTY!!!

Posted by: LongTimeSkinsFan | December 17, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

I'm just tired of the continuing Snyder cluster F#$k! Obviously shanahan and his son needs to go....Rex GROSSMAN PLEASE!!!! 20 years of this crap.......continues. Who would of thought the Best Hire was MARTY!!!

Posted by: LongTimeSkinsFan | December 17, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

I'm just tired of the continuing Snyder cluster F#$k! Obviously shanahan and his son needs to go....Rex GROSSMAN PLEASE!!!! 20 years of this crap.......continues. Who would of thought the Best Hire was MARTY!!!

Posted by: LongTimeSkinsFan | December 17, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

I'm just tired of the continuing Snyder cluster F#$k! Obviously shanahan and his son needs to go....Rex GROSSMAN PLEASE!!!! 20 years of this crap.......continues. Who would of thought the Best Hire was MARTY!!!

Posted by: LongTimeSkinsFan | December 17, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

I'm just tired of the continuing Snyder cluster F#$k! Obviously shanahan and his son needs to go....Rex GROSSMAN PLEASE!!!! 20 years of this crap.......continues. Who would of thought the Best Hire was MARTY!!!

Posted by: LongTimeSkinsFan | December 17, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

I'm just tired of the continuing Snyder cluster F#$k! Obviously shanahan and his son needs to go....Rex GROSSMAN PLEASE!!!! 20 years of this crap.......continues. Who would of thought the Best Hire was MARTY!!!

Posted by: LongTimeSkinsFan | December 17, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

I'm just tired of the continuing Snyder cluster F#$k! Obviously shanahan and his son needs to go....Rex GROSSMAN PLEASE!!!! 20 years of this crap.......continues. Who would of thought the Best Hire was MARTY!!!

Posted by: LongTimeSkinsFan | December 17, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

I'm just tired of the continuing Snyder cluster F#$k! Obviously shanahan and his son needs to go....Rex GROSSMAN PLEASE!!!! 20 years of this crap.......continues. Who would of thought the Best Hire was MARTY!!!

Posted by: LongTimeSkinsFan | December 17, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

I'm just tired of the continuing Snyder cluster F#$k! Obviously shanahan and his son needs to go....Rex GROSSMAN PLEASE!!!! 20 years of this crap.......continues. Who would of thought the Best Hire was MARTY!!!

Posted by: LongTimeSkinsFan | December 17, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

I'm just tired of the continuing Snyder cluster F#$k! Obviously shanahan and his son needs to go....Rex GROSSMAN PLEASE!!!! 20 years of this crap.......continues. Who would of thought the Best Hire was MARTY!!!

Posted by: LongTimeSkinsFan | December 17, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

I'm just tired of the continuing Snyder cluster F#$k! Obviously shanahan and his son needs to go....Rex GROSSMAN PLEASE!!!! 20 years of this crap.......continues. Who would of thought the Best Hire was MARTY!!!

Posted by: LongTimeSkinsFan | December 17, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

I'm just tired of the continuing Snyder cluster F#$k! Obviously shanahan and his son needs to go....Rex GROSSMAN PLEASE!!!! 20 years of this crap.......continues. Who would of thought the Best Hire was MARTY!!!

Posted by: LongTimeSkinsFan | December 17, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

I'm just tired of the continuing Snyder cluster F#$k! Obviously shanahan and his son needs to go....Rex GROSSMAN PLEASE!!!! 20 years of this crap.......continues. Who would of thought the Best Hire was MARTY!!!

Posted by: LongTimeSkinsFan | December 17, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

I'm just tired of the continuing Snyder cluster F#$k! Obviously shanahan and his son needs to go....Rex GROSSMAN PLEASE!!!! 20 years of this crap.......continues. Who would of thought the Best Hire was MARTY!!!

Posted by: LongTimeSkinsFan | December 17, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

I'm just tired of the continuing Snyder cluster F#$k! Obviously shanahan and his son needs to go....Rex GROSSMAN PLEASE!!!! 20 years of this crap.......continues. Who would of thought the Best Hire was MARTY!!!

Posted by: LongTimeSkinsFan | December 17, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

It's a truly sad and disturbing time in Snyderville, when I'm actually rooting for the Pokes to crush my Skins.
I just hope such bad tasting medicine works.

Posted by: jeadpt | December 17, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

I AM OFFICIALLY A RAVENS FAN NOW. GOOD BYE DEAD SKINS. THE MOST ANTICIPATED GAME OF THE SEASON AND U WANT TO "EVALUATE" WE FANS ARE TIRED OF THIS! TIRED OF BEING MILKED BY THIS ORGANIZATION! WE SHOULD SUE YOU ALL FOR THE DUMB DECISIONS. BETTER YET WE SHOULD BOYCOTT REDSKIN PRODUCTS!

I have put all my Redskin stuff on ebay. I quit. I have served my country as a navy seal and I was a fan since 1963. I'm done. Guess I will look at the Ravens now. Bye all!

Posted by: KurtShanaman | December 17, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Shannahan honesty? It is a joke, but then again it matches the team.

Posted by: 44fx2901 | December 17, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

So how come they aren't benching Cooley to see what Davis can do, on down the line? Maybe bench Kyle to see how well Samuels can call a game.
---------------

Because this is not about race as you imply. Cooley is producing, Kyle established himself as a good OC in Texas. What has the other two done besides being of your favorite race?

Any Skin fan will see that what Shanahan is doing is what this team needs. Cut down deadwood, don't dwell on the mistakes or errors on the past, look to the future and create a good team with people who believe in the system not on prima donnas.

Posted by: hock1 | December 17, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Am I the only one who really thought this year was going to be different?

Posted by: bethesdaguy
===========================================
Nope.

I was hoping for a strong stable leader who would evaluate and acquire talent. I was hoping that the past personnel issues would not resurface and distract and claim another year. I was hoping that the new managment would reclaim the respectability this franchise once had.
This S sucks and that jackhole has once again thrown another grenade in the Redskins tent, while claiming to do what's 'in the best interest' of the team. If starting Grossman and trading 2 picks for a QB that your going to release at the end of the year is in the best interest of the team bring back Zorn.

Posted by: priceisright | December 17, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

That's it. I'm done with this team. I guess Dad can't see that his son is learning on the job at our expense.

Posted by: haymarket05 | December 17, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Another lost season for lost reasons.

If a team is willing to trade a starter to a division rival that must tell you something.

So far the Shanahan Experience has cost the Deadskins two draft picks, a botched draft (one drafted player on the roster opening day) and some historically bad play.

I was never sold on McNabb or Shanahan. But I'm not the bazillionaire looking like a buffoon. DC sports has become a laughing stock. Even the Caps this year.

Posted by: BigTrees | December 17, 2010 4:49 PM | Report abuse

I guess Shanahan is targeting a better draft pick at this point.

McNabb is the best chance of winning, but clearly that isn't Shanahan's goal.

Posted by: Benson | December 17, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

"There's a kid out of Oakton High School we're really keen on!!! We're thinking about giving him $15 billion a year for the next 30 years . . . . "

Sheesh . . .

How do you say "A team in disarray . . . "?

Posted by: palmtree2001 | December 17, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

WTF is shanahan thinking by benching McNabb!?!? Is it his fault we have no O-Line!?!? Is it his fault we have no running game!?! Is it his fault we have sub-par receivers!?! You think Rex Grossman will do better!?!? The Cowgurls have just been guaranteed a win. I dont think I will even watch.

Posted by: em2000 | December 17, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

What a joke of a football organization and it's not getting any better any time soon.

Posted by: Aerowaz | December 17, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins have been horrible for the past 11 years. This is the reality. The team is further dissolving before the eyes of their fans. As a Washingtonian, born and raised, it is just embarrassing. They look like a team chasing their own tales. It takes true heart, not true egos and money to win a game. There's no team spirit in management, only business decisions--which is a major part of the problem. You can't throw money at the problem. It's not McKnabb or Campbell's fault, they need to build a defense around the QBs to keep them from being sacked! Why is that so difficult a concept to understand? Both Shanahanns (father and son) are awful and will continue to bring down the morale of the team. Winning a game requires teamwork and trust, which is built over time. What we see here is that the players don't trust the coaches, and the coaches don't trust players. Just when you think the team can't sink to a new low, we are surprised again.

Posted by: smj612 | December 17, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins have a racist nickname!

Posted by: MrWillie | December 17, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Shanny + Shanny #2 = Dumb and Dumber

Posted by: terptek | December 17, 2010 5:06 PM | Report abuse

First of all, I have to give Shanahan credit for being forth right and as honest as he could be. Personally, I like McNabb and was thrilled at first to see him land in DC. I think he has been underrated in the past, but not so much at this moment. He is being rushed hard, because we don't have mush of an offensive line, nor a decent down field threat at wide out. All that said Shanahan needs to know what he has and hasn't got.
Remember like Obama, he inherited a huge mess left behind by a GM and owner who literally destroyed this team methodically year after year. I don't agree with the way Shanahan handled the Haynesworth situation and the Devin Thomas situation, but you have to give him some time to get his players in here. Good Luck Donovan, you deserve to be on a team that has playoff potential and a decent O Line.

Posted by: keithlb28 | December 17, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

The Shanahanigans Bill Rohland refers to are in full bloom.

"No OL, No OL, No OL, No OL, born is the King of Dis-ma-l..."

Posted by: terptek | December 17, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan just stated that it will take McNabb time to learn the offense. What a better way to learn than to sit on the bench. Clearly, the message of the statement was really that coach wants McNabb gone.

Posted by: wp318676 | December 17, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Bring back Jason Campbell!

Posted by: JoStalin | December 17, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

MANY OF YOU CRITICIZED ME IN THE PRE-SEASON WHEN I SAID COLT BRENNAN COULD PLAY AND THAT SHANAHAN WILL BRING DOWN THIS FRANCHISE WITH THE HELP OF SNYDER.
SHANAHAN WAS NOTHING WITHOUT ELWAY AND I HAVE HAD THE LAST LAUGH! I SOLD MY REDSKIN SHIRTS ON EBAY AND WAS SURPRISED ANYONE WOULD BUY THEM. I AM GONE. THIS TEAM IS THE LAUGHING STOCK OF THE LEAGUE AND WAS FOR MANY YEARS SINCE SNYDER BOUGHT IT AND WILL BE UNTIL HE SELLS IT TO A REAL OWNER.
IN VIETNAM WE USED TO SAY "DINKY DAU" MEANS YOUR CRAZY AND ANYONE WHO THINKS THIS ORGANIZATION WILL BE GREAT AGAIN IS "DINKY DAU"!!

Posted by: KurtShanaman | December 17, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Of all the problems this team has, this is what Shanahan omes up with??? How could any QB play behind this lousy line? No RBs. no WRs no O-Line and you bench the QB you squandered a2nd round pick on?This is beyond stupid and points to total incompetence. I wanted to believe that Shanahan may have a step in the right direction but now, it's just another "Doooh" in the comic tragedy the are Redskins. I think this may be the final straw in hoping that one day Snyder may get thngs right - that just isn't ever going to happen, is it. We can forget the Skins as long as they're owned by this idiot. I throwing out my jerseys and peeling off the bumper sticker.

Posted by: whelms1 | December 17, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Hoo boy, I can't wait to buy tix to see my Giants for $20 apiece.

Posted by: michaelmagnus9 | December 17, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Grossman gets a season-ending injury on snap 1 (he nearly got clocked on his first snap of the season), then McNabb resumes apace.

Posted by: Xlnt | December 17, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

If I were McNabb, I would have my agent start looking at some other teams. It's obvious to anyone with half a brain that the situation between him and Shanahan is never going to get better.

Posted by: vicknair | December 17, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

This is a sad, sad day for the skins. This is the worst I've felt as a redskins fan in my 31.5 years of life.

Posted by: avbanig | December 17, 2010 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Ravens fan here from Maryland. I'd just like to shout out a big Thank You to the Redskins organization for giving those of us up I-95 all the laughs we can handle. And for helping us to better appreciate what we have up here. Keep the ol' soap opera episodes coming!

Posted by: trailhiker85 | December 17, 2010 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Ravens fan here from Maryland. I'd just like to shout out a big Thank You to the Redskins organization for giving those of us up I-95 all the laughs we can handle. And for helping us to better appreciate what we have up here. Keep the ol' soap opera episodes coming!

Posted by: trailhiker85 | December 17, 2010 5:43 PM | Report abuse

If MS thinks that because he is the 2-time SB winner, and generally is thought of as a winner, that he's going to be able to have stupid decisions just slide by, he is in for a very rude awakening....Belive me, let him get on the wrong side of the fanatical redskins fans and they will drive him right out of town with his tail betwix his legs...fist he totally mishandled the AH situation (should have cut him at the beginning of the season), Then he benches DM in the Lions game but wasn't man enough to give the real reason why...Now he has benched DM for RG and in the process has sat himself up to receive the fans ire, for if the skins get slaughtered because RG lays some eggs, and there is even the faintest hint that DM would have done better, then MS and possibly BA may as well pack their bags...he will not be forgiven for that by the fans...Then above all, and in the spirit of old Marty Shottenslobber, he has his very own son, Kyle, as the OC...blatent nepotism!

Posted by: rjohnson27 | December 17, 2010 5:49 PM | Report abuse

THE REDSKINS KARMA IS FLIPPED OUT BECAUSE THEY HAVE A HISTORY OF TREATING BLACK QUARTERBACKS UNPRIVILIGED THINK ABOUT IT DOUG WILLIAMS, JASON CAMPBELL AND NOW DONOVAN MCNABB. ALL I CAN SAY IS DAN SYNDER REALLY NEEDS TO LOOK AT THE PEOPLE HE IS INTRUSTING TO BRING HIS TEAM TO CHAMPIONS. SHANAHAN AND HIS SON NEEDS TO BE THE ONE GONE....JUST WHEN DOES FATHER AND SON TAKE AN NFL TEAM?????????WHEN DID THE REDSKINS DECIDE TO BE A TRAINING CAMP FOR THE NFL COACHES AND PLAYERS???? FANS DO YOU REALLY WANT TO PAY FOR THIS SHIGGITY???????

Posted by: mcseacna | December 17, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Guess I will watch PBA Bowling on ESPN.

Posted by: builder701 | December 17, 2010 5:51 PM | Report abuse

My buddy and I have had tickets for many years now and this is the last straw. I was sorry in the beginning to see this Shanahan come here to begin with and now its confirmed. If it hadn't been for Elway and maybe two other players he would be still the the loser he has always been. Marty ball was better than this sadly. Rex sucked in Chicago it was all defense then no offense at all. Number 2 if the 3-4 defense isn't working switch it. Week 1-2 proved it wasn't working but Mr. Stubborn had to stick with it. Result last in the league in D. Number 3 treating a pro like this is a disgrace. Number 4 horrible clock management. The list goes on and on. I am sure big Dan must be sick over the 35 million to Mike for this result. There is only one bright side to this fiasco and that is at least my Sundays next year will be free for other things. Put a fork in them they're done.

Posted by: shschwarz | December 17, 2010 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Shanny and Mini-Shanny, not being total numchucks, can easily foresee that the Skins are on track to lose the remainder of this season's games. The ONLY way the team can SAVE ANY FACE while doing this is with a sacrificial offering like Grossman at the helm. (I say "sacrificial offering" because this is, after all, the Skins' O-line at issue here.) Since nobody expects anything of Grossman, the forthcoming meltdown will seem unavoidable, and thus perhaps less painful.

Bring back Hula Bowl Boy and let him air it out. But for Gawdsakes fix the O-line first before offering up any more on-field human sacrifices.

Posted by: laboo | December 17, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse

McNabb to Minnesota. Yes Chilly is gone, but that really doesn't matter.

McNabb's strength is the long ball and that's the place where it fits. Especially A. Peterson and those receivers. Before Favre, remember those late 90s teams with old guys like Jeff George or Randall Cunningham throwing for insane yardage to Chris Carter and Randy Moss? Can see that happening again.

Posted by: loux24 | December 17, 2010 5:59 PM | Report abuse

I dunno, this actually makes a little bit of sense to me. Let's see what the problem really is. Then these last games might mean something.

Posted by: smt123 | December 17, 2010 6:02 PM | Report abuse

KurtShanaman said above, "IN VIETNAM WE USED TO SAY "DINKY DAU" -- MEANS YOUR CRAZY!!"

Not just dinky dau but bu hao.

Posted by: laboo | December 17, 2010 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Dumping Haynesworth was a no-brainer but this time I think Shanahan went too far. Fans put up meager protect as favorites like Rock Cartwright and Ladell Betts were released only to be replaced by Willie Parker and Larry Johnson - who were then also released. We watched when the Skins' sent Greg Williams packing only to see him revive a New Orleans defense that helped lead to a Super Bowl - while we hired Jim Zorn? And now, we threw away a second draft choice on McNabb then signed him to a multi-year contract only to have this happen. What book is Shanahan reading? Whose idea was it to sign McNabb to that contract - what the heck was that all about? We're stuck with this idiot psychopath for an owner - if anybody can think of a (legal) way to get rid of him - Washington wants to know because he's ruined a once grand franchse with a distinguished past and reduced us to the 3-Stooges of the NFL. I'm done. I've had enough. I'm sick of the inability of this owner to hre a coach that has a clue because I no longer believe in or trust anything Shanahan does - even if McNabb isn't the QB of the next several years, the timing of this was stupidity incarnate. The Skins are undeniably lousy - they stink - they stunk for years and now they really, really stink - Grossman over McNabb? get real - get gone - Shanahan - this time you went too far.

Posted by: whelms1 | December 17, 2010 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Mike Shanahan. Been to all the games and seen too many open receivers, passes behind the receivers, and at their feet. I regret you didn't decide to bench McNabb sooner. Sure the O line could have been better but a lot of it is on McNabb. I'm not one of these sentimental fools who is going to cry like a baby about canning McNabb because it is what it is and what it is is a record of 5 and 8. If only the person responsible for getting McNabb knew what Andy Reid knew. Thanks again Mike Shanahan.

Posted by: getitritegov | December 17, 2010 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Well the two #92 Haynesworth jerseys my son and I bought have been burned.... Then I went out and shelled out $120 bucks on a McNabb jersey.... Now gotta burn that one too... This after we had to burn our Jason Campbell jerseys.... Which came after we had to burn our Jason Taylor jerseys..... Which came after we had to burn our LaVar Arrington jerseys... I'm broke and Im tired. This is a gypsy franchise with gypsy players, with gypsy coaching staffs, a losing mentality, and an owner who's always chasing the next big, useless splash. Welcome to the era of dysfunction. I'm tired of telling my son that our family has chained our football fortunes to the laughing stock of the league. Think that doesn't reflect on us? Think my boy doesn't get ridiculed in school with every botched snap, every dropped pass, every blown coverage, every gaffed call? It's about worn thin.... And I AM SICK OF IT..... but you know what? I just bought him an Orakpo jersey for Christmas... I guess that officially makes me STUPID!!!!

Posted by: Capitalist-1 | December 17, 2010 6:10 PM | Report abuse

What's the big deal? Finding out what the other QB's can do is smart now that McNabb didn't make the team good enough to make the playoffs.

McNabb was worth a shot. Hopefully, Minnesota, Cleveland or Carolina will be suckered into a decent draft pick for McNabb.

Posted by: clandestinetomcat | December 17, 2010 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan's benching McNabb and possibly ending his tenure as a Skin indicates that Shanahan may be recovering from the Dan Snyder disease of throwing money and/or prized draft picks for glitter with little substance. This is almost as good as having Dan Snyder sell the team so that the Skins can finally build their way back on a solid foundation.

The big question, will Snyder remain dormat about the operations of the Skins?

Posted by: jimb | December 17, 2010 6:19 PM | Report abuse

This reminds me a lot of following the Cubs in baseball . . .

Posted by: rlampe | December 17, 2010 6:23 PM | Report abuse

KurtShanaman said above, "IN VIETNAM WE USED TO SAY "DINKY DAU" -- MEANS YOUR CRAZY!!"

Not just dinky dau but bu hao.

Posted by: laboo
__________________________

I think you're minds are both Bo Bun Hue!

Posted by: terptek | December 17, 2010 6:32 PM | Report abuse

KurtShanaman said above, "IN VIETNAM WE USED TO SAY "DINKY DAU" -- MEANS YOUR CRAZY!!"

Not just dinky dau but bu hao.

Posted by: laboo
__________________________

I think your minds are both Bo Bun Hue!

Posted by: terptek | December 17, 2010 6:32 PM | Report abuse

Someone wrote the market for McNabb is a 3rd/4th pick.

Wrong.

It's a 6th or 7th.

He's done.

Posted by: InFact1 | December 17, 2010 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Hi from Chicago! Let me share something that comes in handy when Rex is your QB. "Who is going to be at today's game: Good Rex or Bad Rex?" Ironically, we kind of have a similar experience going on with Cutler but not really. Not even close. Good luck!

Posted by: krazyj2472002 | December 17, 2010 6:43 PM | Report abuse

Start John Beck!! We have seen what McNabb couldn't do, Grossman was signed as a back-up!

Posted by: smewalker | December 17, 2010 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan needs to bench himself!!! Maybe he should bring Elway out of retirement!!
Snyder has wasted some more of his monies on a worthless coach. Way to go Redskins. Maybe by 2050 they'll win another division title...............

Posted by: creolecount1 | December 17, 2010 7:05 PM | Report abuse

And we thought Dan Snyder was stupid? Shanahan is trying to make Dan look good. What a suckup.

Posted by: pjohn2 | December 17, 2010 7:15 PM | Report abuse

The Danskins are a cartoon; it's fantasy land personified. And the lead artist appears no wiser after all these years. Yes, Shanahan supposedly made the trade for McNabb. But we all know who really went out and acquired another "name," whether fading or not. Until Snyder is no longer running this show, little changes.

Posted by: wp318676 | December 17, 2010 7:23 PM | Report abuse

all I can say is the foreskins really suck..

Posted by: joey72 |

Why do I have a feeling that really IS all you can say?

Posted by: fan-o-matic | December 17, 2010 7:25 PM | Report abuse

jimb wrote:

"Shanahan's benching McNabb and possibly ending his tenure as a Skin indicates that Shanahan may be recovering from the Dan Snyder disease of throwing money and/or prized draft picks for glitter with little substance"

Unfortunately your memory is faulty because the trade was made by Allen and Shanahan, not Snyder and their predecessors.

It IS in keeping however with Shanahan's reputation as a very so-so personnel guy.

Also nice to know with the very expansive shopping list that the Redskins have in the offseason, they now have to add QB to that list!

Posted by: 54465446 | December 17, 2010 7:26 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan was just another big name to Snyder. Proper due diligence might have shown Danny that Mike was only a big name because of someone named Elway.

Posted by: wp318676 | December 17, 2010 7:28 PM | Report abuse

• I didn't like McNabb much when he was good, but he played for Philly then. Since he went to Syracuse, I don't like him much now. That said, he is BY FAR the best QB on the team.
• Ego-han has made a mockery of this franchise. He's not as lost, in terms of X's and O's, as Zorn was, but overall, he's every bit as inept. He is, without question, more interested in telling everyone how freakin' smart he is than in winning games.
• What has he gone through? 12 RBs? 13? His skill as an evaluator of talent is an absolute joke. Any self-proclaimed "football genius" in your local sports bar has as good a shot at identifying talent as this idiot.
• He already alienated some players with his disastrous mishandling of the Haynesworth saga. Did Haynesworth need to be suspended? Yeah, probably. But this move makes it look like Shanahan just might have given him ample reason to get hacked off. AH surely didn't handle his situation, but it's starting to look like this dictator has lost all sense of reality and is at risk of losing the entire team. Of course, nobody has the juevos to tell him what a clown he is because Little Danny gave him way too much (money and) power.
• There are players — lots of players — who are furious about this. Hopefully at least one (Fletcher? Cooley? Orakpo? Hall? SOMEONE?) has Little Danny's ear, because Little Danny is the only one who has the power to tell Ego-han to back the hell off. He won't do it, of course, but he could.
• Makes you wonder if the rift between players and Ego-han extends to a rift between Ego-han and Bruce Almighty. It's terrifying for the future of the franchise to think that if it came to a power struggle, Ego-han would win out over Bruce Almighty.
• The Skins could draft every quarterback in college, and Ego-han has done nothing IN HIS CAREER to suggest he won't mess them all up.
• Every decision Ego-han makes seems to set the team back. Thanks. I didn't think I could be more embarrassed to be a Redskins fan than I was during the Zorn Error, but I am — a lot more embarrassed.
• Doesn't matter how many Terrell Davises and Mike Andersons he had in Denver. Without John Elway at QB, Ego-han has won ONE playoff game in his career. With Jake Plummer and Jay Cutler and Kyle Orton, most of us could have won a game or two.
• Here's a sentence nobody ever thought would be said: "Little Danny needs to FOLLOW AL DAVIS'S LEAD .... AND FIRE MIKE EGO-HAN!"

Even when Little Danny went nuts and signed SlimeTime Sanders and Jeff George and Brandon Lloyd, I was a proud Redskins fan. I'm 41 years old, and for the first time in my life, thanks solely to Ego-han, my lifelong allegiance to the Redskins is something I'm ashamed to admit.

Posted by: DC2Dallas | December 17, 2010 7:33 PM | Report abuse

I think this a good move. We are 5-8, and the season is over. Mc Nabb had 13 games to show what he can do. Let's see what Rex can do. If he is not up to the task, We cut him. Mc Nabb is not the future for this team. He has been OK, not great for the Redskins. It does not take away from what he accomplished in the past. It's just time to move on. We need to draft youth, speed, Linemen... lets build for the future.

Posted by: 189AROD | December 17, 2010 8:10 PM | Report abuse

I think this a good move. We are 5-8, and the season is over. Mc Nabb had 13 games to show what he can do. Let's see what Rex can do. If he is not up to the task, We cut him. Mc Nabb is not the future for this team. He has been OK, not great for the Redskins. It does not take away from what he accomplished in the past. It's just time to move on. We need to draft youth, speed, Linemen... lets build for the future.

Posted by: 189AROD | December 17, 2010 8:10 PM | Report abuse

As long as Moneybags Snyder is the owner, we can expect nothing more than what we have. He's an idiot, and so is Shanahan. I try really hard to pull for the Redskins, but I have to say.....I'm done. At least my Sunday afternoons are freed up now.

Posted by: Fairfaxresident3 | December 17, 2010 8:14 PM | Report abuse

The redskins blew it again wasting money on haynesworth and mcnabb. Hopefully, they can dump both for a 4-5 round draft choice, if any other chumps in the league will take them.

Posted by: Socialistic | December 17, 2010 8:15 PM | Report abuse

In the dictionary beside the word "disfunctional" is a picture of a Redskin helmet.

Posted by: golfwise | December 17, 2010 8:19 PM | Report abuse

McNabb's not done, they just tried to make him something he's not. Why give up a number 2 for him and try to change him? It's just like the defence, they tried to make it something it wasn't. With the OF line they have the best Qb there ever was would have went under! Can't wait to see Redskin highlights for the rest of the season, because I sure as hell ain't going to watch the games!

Posted by: goslin57 | December 17, 2010 8:23 PM | Report abuse

"This will go down as one of the 10 idiotic trades in NFL History"
-Chris Cooley

Chris, you were right, except it was your team and management that were the idiots.

And to all you other Skins fans who were ripping the Eagles and their fans, I've got one thing to say........

Told you so!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Posted by: bmbmulford | December 17, 2010 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Wow!! Never seen so much Gusto. I like McNabb, and think he is a good transition QB. He has been chased and sacked and has tried very hard. He misses many easy passes but might not miss them if he was not running from the rush all the time. It does not matter if REX plays or John Beck plays. If they lose we get a higher number one pick. I believe Dennis realizes how big a rebuilding job he is facing. I think he bought the we are a good team line just like the Washington Press for many years. Finally everyone realizes the King has no cloths on. Who can we get to play QB? What does McNabb want for his services? I do not know but off this year I would not give him a bundle for 4 or 5 years. If his demands are reasonable then fine otherwise wait and see what happens. The Skins are not going to the playoffs next year so as long as you buy the idea the king has no clothes and do not fall for the Press's annual chant that we are only a few player away. Anything that build the core talent is fine one player just does not matter.

Posted by: geoski | December 17, 2010 9:58 PM | Report abuse

SHUCK MIKE FANAHAN!

Posted by: 20yrskinfan | December 17, 2010 11:33 PM | Report abuse

Keep McNabb. Get rid of Shanahan. BOTH of them. And Snyder (I WISH!).

Posted by: CAC2 | December 18, 2010 12:07 AM | Report abuse

Wow. Rex Grossman. This is like a flashback to the days when Steve Spurrier actually believed that Shane Matthews and Danny Wuerfel were starting quarterback material. How do you think that McNabb would've performed if he hadn't been a human tackling dummy for the whole season? Their line is that bad, ocassionally up to blocking for the run but they just fold up on pass plays. McNabb's not a kid anymore and the amount of hits he's taking shortens his shelf life game by game. But if McNabb's a has-been, Grossman's a never was. And most likely never will be. Let the turnovers begin and just hope we can find some 6'4, 330 lb. guys who can protect a quarterback by next season. Or Shanahan may not have much more luck than Spurrier.

Posted by: curtb | December 18, 2010 12:23 AM | Report abuse

OK. Lets break this down step by step.

Shanny and Allen are trying to get a better pick next year by losing the remaining 3 games.

I have no problems with Shanny looking at what he has on the team but why look at Grossman? He should be looking at Beck.

McNab isn't the most accurate QB but he is certainly the most talented QB the Skins have had Thiesman, maybe longer. And why treat McNab badly by announcing to the world that he might not be back next year? How about something like McNab is our starter today but we are going to evaluate what we have to prepare for next year and the future.

I always thought Shanny was a decent coach but not a great personnel man. An that is showed up over and over again this season. Allen should be solely in charge of personnel.

The current team needs to be blown up and completely rebuilt. I'd keep Cooley, Moss, Trent Willilams, Landry, Orakpo and McNab. I would trade or wave everyone else.

Posted by: neil64 | December 18, 2010 12:43 AM | Report abuse

Coach,
How porous is the O-line? How many times has McNabb been pressured, hurried, knocked down and sacked? How many balls have his receivers dropped? Instead of just looking at McNabb's mistakes and supposedly protracted learning curve for this system you have to look at his receiver's learning curves as well. Do you think that their learning a new system and a new quarterback could have contributed to some of those interceptions? How many different players have started at runningback and how many really decent games have we had at that position? Did any of them start more than 2 or 3 games in a row? Evaluate all of the variables not just one. You bring in a new quarterback, and then you throw a whole new offensive system at him and you expect Pro-Bowl performances.
Three more games and Donovan McNabb will have thrown for more yards in a season than he has ever thrown, and Shannahan thinks that he has to evaluate the QB position. How do you bench this guy. With those kind of numbers, the failure to score is not just McNabb's fault. By the way coach, your son sucks at calling plays, and this season you sucked at game strategy. If McNabb can move the team to the Red Zone but cannot put the ball in the End Zone, it is not just the players (throwing interceptions, dropping passes, fumbling the ball) who are at fault. It is also the person sending in the plays during these key moments. So he had success in Houston. In DC, he is screwing up, and so are you for not seeing it. Yes he is your son, but if you are going to use catch phrases like "for the good of the team" then you must, must, must remove your son as well as your quarterback.
This is the second time that I have felt compelled to write to you. I must say that I am now more disappointed in you than the last time. I do not hold you completely responsible for the debacle that this season has become (your coaching staff shares that responsibility with you), but I am shocked and disappointed that a man of your stature would stoop to casting blame upon a player for the failure of YOUR system. What else do you call benching McNabb for the rest of the season to evaluate the QB position?
Mark

Posted by: Wizardsfaninexile | December 18, 2010 2:39 AM | Report abuse

Earth to skins fans - McNabb has never in his career been a top five quarterback - he is solid but does not a franchise make or save. A good coach wins games with what he has and I think the criticisms of Shanahan are well founded (how can you not design a defense around your personnel and just chuck Haynesworth after making him you highest paid player). I bet Minnesota would take a MacNabb for Tavaris Jackson and Joe Webb deal straight up. This is a team failure based on years of bad GM decisions and assigning blame elsewhere is counterproductive (see Detroit Lions, NY Knicks, Baltimore Orioles) - the one common theme is bad management decisions and then blaming the lack of talent you acquired for performing to their skill level. Why do you think fantasy leagues are so popular - the name of the game in the age of free agency is who is the smartest GM - those guys should have their jerseys for sale when you really get down to the historically successful franchises.

Posted by: billthebeast | December 18, 2010 7:32 AM | Report abuse

Earth to skins fans - McNabb has never in his career been a top five quarterback - he is solid but does not a franchise make or save. A good coach wins games with what he has and I think the criticisms of Shanahan are well founded (how can you not design a defense around your personnel and just chuck Haynesworth after making him you highest paid player). I bet Minnesota would take a MacNabb for Tavaris Jackson and Joe Webb deal straight up. This is a team failure based on years of bad GM decisions and assigning blame elsewhere is counterproductive (see Detroit Lions, NY Knicks, Baltimore Orioles) - the one common theme is bad management decisions and then blaming the lack of talent you acquired for performing to their skill level. Why do you think fantasy leagues are so popular - the name of the game in the age of free agency is who is the smartest GM - those guys should have their jerseys for sale when you really get down to the historically successful franchises.

Posted by: billthebeast | December 18, 2010 7:33 AM | Report abuse

To do the benching during Dallas Week is totally unacceptable. Again, winning our next game takes a back seat. If Rex gets hurt during our first offensive series, how hard is DM5 going to play for this HC and OC? He'll want to prevent being injured for the sake of his new team, probably in AZ. There's too much back room drama going on with this current management team in place.

Posted by: DeployedFan | December 18, 2010 8:42 AM | Report abuse

Shanahan flexed his muscles when he hired McNabb. He tested the Snyder waters; problem is the team and fans lost. Donovan knew he had nothing more to give. Andy Reid knew it too. Where's Bruce Allen? Did Shanahan get rid of him? Maybe I'm wrong but so far, I'm not impressed with the coaching.

Posted by: skinfreak | December 18, 2010 9:46 AM | Report abuse

Despite O line & other problems---the main problem is still the HEAD COACH!! Followed by ALLEN---the owner, well!!

Posted by: neuron1952 | December 18, 2010 9:51 AM | Report abuse

Maybe Snyder should bench the coach for the final games to evaluate how the other coaches can do...and then determine what to do after the season...just be honest with ya Mike if we let ya go!

Posted by: sarg11b | December 18, 2010 11:07 AM | Report abuse

The atmosphere at Redskins' park is so toxic that it corrupts everything and everyone who breathes it. It turns players against each other, and coaches into lunatic zombies, completely neutralizing whatever talents they may still have.

And that will never, ever change as long as the man who created that atmosphere remains in charge.

Posted by: Gladiator2008 | December 18, 2010 11:33 AM | Report abuse

The atmosphere at Redskins' park is so toxic that it corrupts everything and everyone who breathes it. It turns players against each other, and coaches into lunatic zombies, completely neutralizing whatever talents they may still have.

And that will never, ever change as long as the man who created that atmosphere remains in charge.

Posted by: Gladiator2008 | December 18, 2010 11:33 AM | Report abuse

The atmosphere at Redskins' park is so toxic that it corrupts everything and everyone who breathes it. It turns players against each other, and coaches into lunatic zombies, completely neutralizing whatever talents they may still have.

And that will never, ever change as long as the man who created that atmosphere remains in charge. That man's name is Dan Snyder.

Posted by: Gladiator2008 | December 18, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

you people have to lay off the racism bit. Shanahan is not a racist and anyone who uses the racism card is just covering up their own defiencies.

Posted by: SkinzVA73 | December 18, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

you people have to lay off the racism bit. Shanahan is not a racist and anyone who uses the racism card is just covering up their own defiencies.

Posted by: SkinzVA73 | December 18, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Post a Comment

We encourage users to analyze, comment on and even challenge washingtonpost.com's articles, blogs, reviews and multimedia features.

User reviews and comments that include profanity or personal attacks or other inappropriate comments or material will be removed from the site. Additionally, entries that are unsigned or contain "signatures" by someone other than the actual author will be removed. Finally, we will take steps to block users who violate any of our posting standards, terms of use or privacy policies or any other policies governing this site. Please review the full rules governing commentaries and discussions.




characters remaining

 
 
RSS Feed
Subscribe to The Post

© 2010 The Washington Post Company