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Shanahan's running game is simple; blocking isn't

There was an interesting tidbit in Barry Svrluga's Sunday story about Mike Shanahan's devotion to the running game -- actually, there were several, but let's focus on one for right now.

Mark Schlereth, a former lineman for Shanahan in Denver who now blocks for Chris Berman at ESPN, said that his former coach really has only a half-dozen running plays. But when you review the film, it looks like more than three dozen.

The keys are simple: creative personnel groups, myriad formations and blocking schemes.

Shanahan wouldn't commit last week to any sort of blocking scheme for the 2010 Redskins, but he has relied on zone blocking more than most coaches, whether his line coach was Alex Gibbs (now in Houston) or Rick Dennison.

Dennison is a longtime Shanahan assistant whom many expect to land in Washington, but a monkey wrench might've been thrown into those plans this weekend. While the Broncos wouldn't allow running back coach Bobby Turner to interview for a similar position in Washington, they've given the Texans permission to interview Dennison for their offensive coordinator job, which is being vacated by Kyle Shanahan, the Redskins' new OC.

Anyhow, back to the blocking... Mike Shanahan wouldn't commit last week to zone blocking, but the safe guess is we'll see plenty of it.

"It depends on the players that we have. We've had success doing not only zone schemes, but power schemes as well," Shanahan said. "Denver, even though it's noted to be a zone-blocking scheme, there was a lot of things that Denver did outside just the zone, and we'll continue to do those type of things. And we'll evaluate that once we get a better feel of our personnel."

The other key to his offensive creativity is the formations he sends onto the field. A couple more staples you see in Shanahan's offenses are a big receiver -- think Malcolm Kelly -- and an above-average pass-catching tight end.

As for the receiver, while Shanahan may have that person already in place, many wouldn't be surprised if he tried to lure a better option via free agency. One name that's popped up a couple of times is Terrell Owens, who will be a free agent.

At tight end, Shanahan should have a couple of solid options; what remains to be seen is whether he feels he needs them both. Last week, Chris Cooley noted that in the right offense, two good pass-catching tight ends could be better than one.

"I remember looking at film and there was lots of play-action, lot of formations. It was an intelligent offense," Cooley said. "He has the opportunity, with Fred [Davis] and I, to do a ton of different stuff."

By Rick Maese  |  January 11, 2010; 11:09 AM ET
 
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"His mind....is ahead....of what the defense, is"

~ Namath to Suzy C...

Posted by: jmicrodoc | January 11, 2010 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Shanny's quote:
"It depends on the players that we have. We've had success doing not only zone schemes, but power schemes as well," Shanahan said. "Denver, even though it's noted to be a zone-blocking scheme, there was a lot of things that Denver did outside just the zone, and we'll continue to do those type of things. And we'll evaluate that once we get a better feel of our personnel."

THAT is the quote of the offseason thus far……sounds like he is not so smug that he believes that his system is infallible no matter who is playing in it. Good to hear that he is willing to make adjustments and strategize based upon the strengths of his players.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | January 11, 2010 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Let's jump off this Flacco Campbel discussion. Instead, let's discuss the hypothetical situation of no Campbell in 2010. Let's assume the team both lets Campbell go, and does not draft a QB (although maybe sign free agents). Who's your quarterback? Chad Pennington's available. Colt Brennan is the second coming of Kyle Orton. Todd Collins could return for another season. Unknown commodity Richard Bartel is on the roster...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 11, 2010 11:23 AM

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 11, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

"It depends on the players that we have. We've had success doing not only zone schemes, but power schemes as well," Shanahan said. "Denver, even though it's noted to be a zone-blocking scheme, there was a lot of things that Denver did outside just the zone, and we'll continue to do those type of things. And we'll evaluate that once we get a better feel of our personnel."

What an encouraging answer. Develope around the personnel you have. What a concept. Of course, it could be that the personnel we have actually are only capable of 16 ppg.

Posted by: amaranthpa | January 11, 2010 11:27 AM | Report abuse

PaSkin..
Many of the personnel you mentioned were in place when Jason was going on an 0-5 W-L slide, his second year, until injured in 2007... Then an old creaky back up, who had not started an NFL game in 10 years, comes in, with the same exact personnel and goes 4-0 as NFL player of the month and a 106 QB Rating. Might of had a chance in Seattle but for Heyer playing matador to Kearney in his first NFL game.

After Gobbs had seen JC in meetings and game prep for 2 years, he knew he had made a mistake in convincing Dan to spend a 1st, 2nd and 4th on JC.. If Gibbs had seen the budding superstar that he told Snyder he was.... I am sure he would not of retired.. Instead he saw an old backup upstaging a very expensive acquisition recommended by a "GM playing" Gibbs. A backup that saved a little of Gibbs 2.0 legacy by getting the Skins into the playoffs...
"Family reasons" was a save face for him and Snyder..
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Remember JC had a good offensive line in his first 3 years and he still didn't produce, everyone is acting like this was JC first year and he had a bad o-line.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 11, 2010 10:34 AM | Report abuse

PASKINSFAN wrote:

That's funny, he's only played 3.5 years and the line has been bad for 1.5. So something is not right with your numbers. It seems like you are blaming him for not producing in his first 1.5 years when he was riding the bench.

In his 3.5 years he's had a line for the first 2 but he didn't have a #2 receiver for the first 1.5 of that 2.

In 2006 and 2007 all he had was moss, Randle El, and cooley. Teams were double teaming moss and cooley and letting Randle El try to beat us. Randle El and Moss were leading the league in drops for a while until Randle El got hurt. Then we tried Thrash but he was terrible. We had to pull guys off the street to fill that #2 WR position. Remember when we had Brandon Lloyd, Keenen MacCardell, and the guy from seat 53 section C?


Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 11, 2010 11:03 AM

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 11, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse

T.O.? Well, if any coach could manage him, Shanahan could. And there wouldn't be a problem with motivation for the Dallas and Philadelphia games. But, I don't think any coach can manage the guy. Stick with the ones we got.

Posted by: League-Source | January 11, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Let's jump off this Flacco Campbel discussion. Instead, let's discuss the hypothetical situation of no Campbell in 2010. Let's assume the team both lets Campbell go, and does not draft a QB (although maybe sign free agents). Who's your quarterback? Chad Pennington's available. Colt Brennan is the second coming of Kyle Orton. Todd Collins could return for another season. Unknown commodity Richard Bartel is on the roster...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 11, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Chad Pennington...get him his 3rd Come Back player of the year award.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | January 11, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

"His mind....is ahead....of what the defense, is"

~ Namath to Suzy C...

Posted by: jmicrodoc | January 11, 2010 11:16 AM
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Free Michael Tunison!

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 11, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

I might be late on this but is there any news out yet on Mike Zimmer?

Posted by: NYSkinsFan1 | January 11, 2010 11:07 AM

Cinncy will lock him up...

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 11, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

And Flacco is also more accurate...

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 11, 2010 11:03 AM | Report abuse

2009

Jason Campbell 64.5%

Joe Flacco 63.1%

and no Flacco does not take that many more shots down field than Campbell.

Again, my point is you don't need to find a Peyton, Brees, or Warner to win you games.


Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | January 11, 2010 11:14 AM


I agree you don't need Peyton, Brees, Warner, etc.....

If you can, why not get him?

And JC stats are irrelevant with 70%+ of his attempts are under 10 yards. I got DMason on my FF team....And I know Flacco throws the ball down the field....

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 11, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

I think the Redskins are feeding disinformation out there on TO, so when they trade for Brandon Marshall we'll all say, "Well, thank God it was not TO!"

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 11, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Anyone watch the Jets/Cincy game and notice that Carson Palmer just doesn’t put anything on his passes anymore? He looked like Danny Wuerffel, just kind of lobbing the ball and letting his receivers go get it. I couldn’t believe that he wasn’t picked off more. Then you look at guys like Romo/Warner/Rodgers and just wish we had a QB who could throw like that.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | January 11, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Soup is done here. Collins and Colt are still under contract for 2010. Need at least one more for a competition. Just say no to Clausen, Tebow , McCoy, Bradford.

Posted by: Realness1 | January 11, 2010 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Chad Pennington...get him his 3rd Come Back player of the year award.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | January 11, 2010 11:30 AM
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I think Shanahan could do some things with Pennington as his QB.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 11, 2010 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Rodgers was unbelievable last night... that throw in the 4th where he was scrambling to his right, threw it 30 yards off one foot into a shoebox for a tiptoe sideline grab...

The NFL is amazing.

He really wishes he had that one overtime pass back though... thats the ball game if he puts that on the money.

Posted by: Rypien11 | January 11, 2010 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Only reason to get rid of JC is if someone is willing to trade a pick for him... which they probably aren't.

Posted by: Rypien11 | January 11, 2010 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Cinncy will lock him up...

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 11, 2010 11:32 AM |

No they wont or they would have by now, Snyder will pay better, and he knows he would be in control on defense here not so much in Cincy.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 11, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

RSH I'd think they would go w/ a vet that Know lil Shany's offense. That puts us at Rosenfels, or Grossman. In the SI article posted the other day, seems Grossman was doing well understanding the offense in Houston. My $$ would be on him.

Posted by: TWISI | January 11, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

at 4-12 Jason was in alot of mop up Prevent D. Opposing teams had no problem letting him play catch before the sticks and redzone and his 80 percent passes 10 yards or less show this..
I'd take Flacco and his situational 4th Qtr QB ratings at 77 vs JC's 61.
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And Flacco is also more accurate...

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 11, 2010 11:03 AM | Report abuse

2009

Jason Campbell 64.5%

Joe Flacco 63.1%

and no Flacco does not take that many more shots down field than Campbell.

Again, my point is you don't need to find a Peyton, Brees, or Warner to win you games.


Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | January 11, 2010 11:14 AM


I agree you don't need Peyton, Brees, Warner, etc.....

If you can, why not get him?

And JC stats are irrelevant with 70%+ of his attempts are under 10 yards. I got DMason on my FF team....And I know Flacco throws the ball down the field....

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 11, 2010 11:34 AM |

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 11, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

I see Sleepy and Coooley being here together for atleast one year, maybe 2.

Scheleterth is irrelevant as he hasn't played for the coach in almost a decade. The better thing to look at is Houston's offense last year. They were a pass heavy team because of the pass catchers they have. I think we have all the offensive weapons we need. Just get another RB or 2 through the draft and sure up the line of the O....

The defense needs a starting SAM and FS..and potential MLB...

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 11, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Don't jump me on this, but I'm for T.O in Washington. Anything that can get us back into playoffs. I'm tired of trying to jump off the roof for every game loss. It will also be nice if, somehow, we can let go of Moss, Randle-El, and acquire the speedy Brandon Marshal. T.O, Marshall, Devin and Kelly, with Shanahan in charge, will be brutally uncivilized.

Posted by: abxinc | January 11, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Shannahan only has 6 runs really so do most teams if you want to break down the run game in football.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 11, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Agreed Flound..and Coach's Agents love Snyder... No cap in the coaching ranks either.. I'd stay tuned on Zimmer..
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No they wont or they would have by now, Snyder will pay better, and he knows he would be in control on defense here not so much in Cincy.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 11, 2010 11:40 AM

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 11, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse

"...couple more staples you see in Shanahan's offenses are a big receiver -- think Malcolm Kelly -- and an above-average pass-catching tight end."



I'd rather think about Marko Mitchell.

I think Shanny will se Fred Davis as a big receiver and use him and Cooley at the same time.

Malcolm Kelly just looks very ordinary to me.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 11, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Flound - I saw somewhere over the weekend, they were ready to begin negetiations with him to stay...

I don't see Zimmer coming...Won't be the 1st time I have been wrong though....

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 11, 2010 11:46 AM | Report abuse

T.O. and Brandon Marshall on the same team?

That's like Gilbert Arenas having Jayson Williams as his life coach.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 11, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Malcolm Kelly just looks very ordinary to me.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 11, 2010 11:45 AM

Dude, everybody looked ordinary playing in Jim Zorn's offense. And that was on a good day.

Posted by: League-Source | January 11, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

RSH I'd think they would go w/ a vet that Know lil Shany's offense. That puts us at Rosenfels, or Grossman. In the SI article posted the other day, seems Grossman was doing well understanding the offense in Houston. My $$ would be on him.

Posted by: TWISI | January 11, 2010 11:40 AM
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Yuck! Grossman? You might be right but Grossman was such an erratic player with the Bears. Still, if he knows the offense, they'll be looking for a vet that can help the pups along. Man, if you went for such a shakey player, you would have to sign someone else with experience, wouldn't you? Okay, cut Collins, sign and trade Campbell, sign Grossman and sign Pennington.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 11, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

The defense needs a starting SAM and FS..and potential MLB...

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 11, 2010 11:42 AM

Actually, I was thinking about this last night ... did anyone ever pick up Marcus Washington? If not, then seems like he's had a year of healing under his belt and might be ready for a reprise. I know he left on bad terms, but money is money ... and his being here would free up Orakpo to play DE. Just sayin'

Posted by: dcsween | January 11, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

On the one hand, TO seems quieter this year, like maybe he's accepting he can't will a team to victory if he's passed to on every single play. Maybe his attitude is getting slightly better, and what he has left could be managed by Shanahan.

On the other hand, he leaves a swath of team destruction everywhere he goes. He is the harbinger of NFL doom. Relying on him ultimately leads to failure 100% of the time if he makes it to the post season.

I say no to him, and Marshall. Look to FA for more pressing needs, develop the receivers we already have. They are improving, the sky is the limit unless we stunt their growth by bringing in a premadona who must be fed passes to be non destructive.

Posted by: REXskins | January 11, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Did the Bills cut TO or something? Why all the TO talk?

Posted by: dlhaze1 | January 11, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Agreed Realness...
Shanny knows Snyder shopped JC, unsuccessfully, for a 2nd run pick last March, for the Sanchez package and didnt get an offer. Thus Shanny most likely feels very empowered to find a replacement for JC, more so, probably than any other skilled position personnel move he is considering (OLine notwithstanding).
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Soup is done here. Collins and Colt are still under contract for 2010. Need at least one more for a competition. Just say no to Clausen, Tebow , McCoy, Bradford.

Posted by: Realness1 | January 11, 2010 11:36 AM

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 11, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: dcsween | January 11, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Marcus Washington?

He gets hurt writing his name.


True indeed, Leagues. It's hard to say which younger players have big play capability when you have a coach that plays for FGs or who calls stretch plays from his own two yard line.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 11, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Beep Beep

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 11, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

So since DC is not in the playoffs I have begun my annual look at Minor-league football and spring leagues to see what is new. A fun interesting note, Arean Football Legue was bought out after it went bankrupt last year by a group called AF1.

I can tell you right now it will fail as AF1 has no teams playing in Cali or the North east, and any league that ignores where 76% of the US population lives is born to fail.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 11, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Did the Bills cut TO or something? Why all the TO talk?

Posted by: dlhaze1


T.O. signed a one year deal. He's a free agent.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 11, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

"Shanahan only has 6 runs really so do most teams if you want to break down the run game in football."

It matters how you block the runs though.

One failing under Zorn was that his passing game wasn't designed to run play action off the running game.

Why?

He had to use Gibbs' running game with his passing game.

I guess it never crossed his mind to somehow unite it all schematically.

Now all that's crossing his mind is how to spent $2.5 million during time away from football.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 11, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

If campbell played on the ravens he would be in the play-offs NOW. ravens have a running game a young strong o-line a punishing defense everyone can tackle including the other landry brother. a good head coach and organization, flacco is lucky to be drafted by them he has a good arm but he is not the 2nd coming of elway they need another speed receiver. some of you still don't understand the reason that flacco can throw the ball downfield is because he has superior blocking than campbell he is no more accurate than campbell and probably less accurate and certainly not a stronger arm than campbell. I really don't care if shanahan brings in another QB just dont draft any in the first 2 rounds..fix the damm o-line.

Posted by: wathu19 | January 11, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Just say F NO to TO. That is craaaaaaazy talk. I'd rather have Zorn AND Vinny back than TO as a Redskin. I'm not kidding.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | January 11, 2010 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Agreed Realness...
Shanny knows Snyder shopped JC, unsuccessfully, for a 2nd run pick last March, for the Sanchez package and didnt get an offer. Thus Shanny most likely feels very empowered to find a replacement for JC, more so, probably than any other skilled position personnel move he is considering (OLine notwithstanding).
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Soup is done here. Collins and Colt are still under contract for 2010. Need at least one more for a competition. Just say no to Clausen, Tebow , McCoy, Bradford.

Posted by: Realness1 | January 11, 2010 11:36 AM

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 11, 2010 11:51 AM

I can imagine Shanny (Mr. No excuses) watching film w/ soup and soup tries to roll out the parade of excuses he's gotten from the media, fans, etc. "wahhh, it's not fair, it's someone else's fault that I can't read a D or throw the ball on time and win 35% of my over 50 starts. Call the wahhhmbulance!" Then this by DC: "The following quarterbacks have been released. Here is the list in alphabetical order: Campbell, Jason.... that is all...."

Posted by: Realness1 | January 11, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse

O line has to be the focus of the offseason. I mean its obvious. Shanahan has got to know this, and will fix it and get a couple of RB's (Alridge maybe) JC I think his fate is 50/50.

Posted by: FedorEm | January 11, 2010 12:08 PM | Report abuse

btw...kudos to the folks up here who questioned the rooney rule last week!

i was not one of them. i'm usually neutral on quota matters.

Posted by: dealer1 | January 11, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

The other key to his offensive creativity is the formations he sends onto the field. A couple more staples you see in Shanahan's offenses are a big receiver -- think Malcolm Kelly -- and an above-average pass-catching tight end.
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sounds like a bunch of 2 wr 2 te sets!!!! santana in the slot!!! finally!!!

Posted by: jimmy_the_crickett | January 11, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Malcom Kelly looked a lot like Rod Gardner getting run down on his one long pass reception. Shanahan's big wr is probably not currently on the team. I doubt that any of his o-line is currently on the roster either.

Posted by: coparker5 | January 11, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

All of you are assuming it is Campbell, Brennan or a draft pick.

I happen to think Shanahan will grab whichever of the 'name' quarterbacks falls into Round 2.

BUT, there is always the possibility that Mike could TRADE for a quarterback too.

He could also draft a QB in Round 2 and sign a Jeff Garcia for one year to be the starter and mentor the younger player.

Posted by: leopard09 | January 11, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

"Anyone watch the Jets/Cincy game and notice that Carson Palmer just doesn’t put anything on his passes anymore? He looked like Danny Wuerffel, just kind of lobbing the ball and letting his receivers go get it. I couldn’t believe that he wasn’t picked off more. Then you look at guys like Romo/Warner/Rodgers and just wish we had a QB who could throw like that. Posted by: dlhaze1"

I guess the grass is always greener, huh? But Palmer's problems began when Chris Henry went down and he lost his main downfield threat. Ochocinco was completely engulfed by Revis and Coles has become a possession receiver.

Those other guys -- well, most of Romo's success comes when he can throw short and let his receivers take the ball upfield. Look at the percentage of completions under 6 yards, for instance. Rodgers was dodging fate all day -- did you see how many of those throws were a half-inch from getting knocked down? Lot of credit goes to Greg Jennings and the other receivers.

Warner was basically throwing to open men. I don't know what happened to the GB pass defense, but they looked lost out there. And missing tackles right and left. Some of those Early Doucet plays were just inexcusable.

And Joe Flacco completed 4 of 10 passes.

Posted by: Samson151 | January 11, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Wow this is the third time the Washington Post has written the same article about Shanahan's running game plan.

I agree with League-Source - Fred Davis as a wideout in some packages is pretty scary.

Posted by: nativedc | January 11, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Please, no T.O., I just can't stomach him and I sure can't root for him. This would be even worse than when they brought Deion Sanders here and were considering Michael Irvin. There are plenty of other wide receivers and we have plenty of good ones on the current roster - Kelly and Thomas are beginning to get it, and Marko Mitchell is a diamond in the rough that needs a real good look. We don't need a T.O. We've got enough primadonnas.

Posted by: AsstGM | January 11, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Wow some of you GM's need to get a football IQ, your worst then Vinny!!!!!!!

First off did any of you watch the playoff games this weekend? Lets use one of the local teams ,the Ravens. They have a good solid offensive line that run blocks and pass blocks. Did the Redskins have anything resembling that kind of offense line? The Ravens had 3 running backs , Ray Rice who has speed, power and burst, Willis Maghee who is a power back , and Mclain a fullback , did the Redskins have anyone running backs or fullbacks that possesed the power or speed like those Raven running backs?
There is a correlation with having a solid offensive line which creates holes for running backs to run thru and an offensive line that gives the quarterback time to make throws and a freaking offensive coordinator who calls plays based on player strengths an not fixated on scehmes !
Campbell was not fortunate enough to have any of those ingredients so lets see if he gets that foundation and then how productive the team can be....

On the defensive side of the ball you saw all the playoff teams blitzing , or playing a lot of pressman coverage. Blatche relied way to much on zones and his ridiculous schemes which had his corners playing too far off the ball..Part of the Skins problems were coaching, lack of discipline , an not enough play makers.

An a lot of you idiot fans get all upset when some players speak out, hell if you continue to lose in a physically demanding sport like football I woul dhope someone woul dhave sense enough to speak up an out

Posted by: TheBeatDontStop | January 11, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

So Mike Shanny is the second coming of Christ the savior, here to save the dreadful skins from themselves and their owner Richie Rich with his great running plays and offensive mind? somone check me if i am wrong on this, but wasnt the broncos known as a dirty team? I remember when i was stationed in Colorado, all I heard about was the dirty the broncos players were with their chop blocks. So tell me has he changed his coaching style? No wonder the had great success, players were worried aboout their knees. so now we go from being just a dreadful team to a dirty dreadful team? I just saying!

Posted by: Cancerman1 | January 11, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

AsstGM, You hit the nail on the head! PLEASE NO T.O. ! Marko Mitchell will be a good player if they would just let him in the game! The man catches everything that is thrown his way! This team has a good recieving corps! The management needs to think about what their going to do about the offensive line before they do anything else!! Just say no to T.O.!!!

Posted by: vexed50verizonnet | January 11, 2010 8:04 PM | Report abuse

JC has had two, almost 3 full seasons. His first season, he didn't play. His second season, they brought him in the last 7 games of the year, when his RB's were Betts and TJ Duckett and his WR's, Moss and Randle El. The next year when he was hurt in Game 12, he was on a 4 game slide, not 5. The 1st two losses of that slide were 25-33 against Philly when JC was 19/34 with 3TDs/0ints and 23-28 against the Cowgirls where JC was 35/54 for 348 yds and 2TDs/1int. Portis rushed for a whopping 36 yards that game, while JC himself got 18. Sorry, I just can't hang JC with those losses. The D allowed 97 points, 24 a game, during JC's "slide", and 53 points, or 13 points a game, during Collins "streak". The D allowed Dallas 28 points when JC played, and 6 for Collins. Maybe Collins was playing safety and shut em down. Maybe JC had a better line his first almost full season, but the line the last two years has been crap. And he has NEVER had a legitimate #2 receiver to go with Moss, though unlike others I refuse to attack ARE as I think he does great at his natural position as a slot WR, though not so great as a PR. When JC gets consistent decent protection, and his receivers get open, he puts points on the board, including hitting long TD's. Give him a reliable line next year, and some sanity in the offensive scheme and playcalling, and all of you JC haters will be cheering him along with the rest of us.

Posted by: kenboy1 | January 11, 2010 11:05 PM | Report abuse

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