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Sherman Smith interviewing with Seahawks

Former Washington Redskins offensive coordinator Sherman Smith will interview Thursday for a job coaching running backs with the Seattle Seahawks, an NFL source confirmed Thursday.

Smith, a longtime running backs coach with the Tennessee Titans, joined his friend and former teammate Jim Zorn as the offensive coordinator with the Redskins in 2008. He was not retained by new Washington coach Mike Shanahan, but appears to have a chance to join new Seahawks coach Pete Carroll in Seattle, where Smith played seven of his eight NFL seasons.

ESPN's Adam Schefter first reported Smith's interview.

Smith, 55, gained 3,520 yards in an eight-year career that ended with one season in San Diego. The source said Smith could end up with other interviews if the Seattle position doesn't work out.

By Barry Svrluga  |  January 21, 2010; 10:34 AM ET
 
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You do realize there is more than JUST the 1st round of the draft, don't you?

Do any of youse?

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 21, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

THANK YOU! its like people here have Stockholm syndrome from the Vinny years. If Shanny/Allen decide to draft Clausen at #4 there is no way in H E double hockey sticks they put him behind the same or similar line we had last year. If they grab him at #4 you can be sure they will draft a tackle in the 2nd, sign some olineman, and maybe trade for some too. Its no longer a QB and nothing else situation. Unlike Vinny its not your 1st guy, a bunch of mid rounders chosen for god knows why since they don't fit any needs who'll all be cut and perhaps a 7th round gem.

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 21, 2010 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 21, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Is it just me?

Or does everyone else not really care what our ex-coaches from this past disastrous season are doing now?

Posted by: p1funk | January 21, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse

I ALREADY WORK AROUND THE CLOCK!!!!

Posted by: Rypien11 | January 21, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse

the 'lockout' concept doesn't make any sense to me. I could see a 'walkout..'.. that makes sense.. kinda.

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 21, 2010 10:26 AM

The owners will be locking the players out literaly from team facilities. The players want to play and get paid. The owners will only let them play if they can get some concessions.

The players ain't walking out like the 80s. It's the owners locking them out....

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 21, 2010 10:44 AM | Report abuse

gspazg: spacechicken170am: I wonder if this a golden retriver thing.

My golden does the same thing. He's the only dog that I know that will actually curl his paw around your hand/arm like he's holding it.

We actually taught ours to do it on command. It was the easiest dog trick to teach. He's pretty much already doing it so why not say "high-5" when he does it and hand him a bicuit? Now, if you say high-5 Duke slaps you 5. People love it. They don't have to know he does it all the time even when you don't say high-5. Sometimes he just wants a biscuit.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 21, 2010 10:45 AM | Report abuse

IMO IF Shanny goes QB at #4 it'll be Clausen. His stats last year were incredible considering the crap line, zero running game, and lack of top end weapons. (sound like any place we know?)

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 21, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse


He was also tutored by an NFL offensive coordinator in a pro-style offense.

I don't want a QB this year at #4, but I'd certainly take Clausen over any of the others.

Posted by: p1funk | January 21, 2010 10:31 AM


I know I am known as a Clausen hater. But it's not because I don't like him. It's because of his play on the field.

Did anyone watch Notre Dame even play this year???????????? Wow! And you still want THIS GUY????

COme ON MAN!! Just because he was able to make the score semi-close at the end means diddly-poo. That's what JC17 was doing this year!

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 21, 2010 10:45 AM | Report abuse

No matter what they decide to do with the 4th pick, the offensive line will be improved. Shanny is not Vinny he knows the importance of the o-line.

If Okung is gone there is no o-linemen worth that pick IMO, so if both the DT's are gone as well I would pick Clausen.

I will back up what ever they decide to do because they know what they are doing. We have fun and talk football all day, but when it comes down to it none of us really knows what were talking about.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 21, 2010 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Wow Seattle is hiring all of our old coordinators and coaches.. They will suck as bad as we did last year. Awesome.

Posted by: FedorEm | January 21, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 21, 2010 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Uh, ignore that, it was meant for another forum. We'll just add that to my embarassing typos and dyslexia as reasons why this blog should get a preview function.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 21, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse

I don't get why the hiring of former Redskin coaches warrants their own posts. We were so happy to get rid of these clowns that if we never saw or heard of them again it would still be too soon...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 21, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse

Yo PA ... I'll take a freakin' biscuit!

Posted by: sjw1 | January 21, 2010 10:51 AM | Report abuse

My golden does the same thing. He's the only dog that I know that will actually curl his paw around your hand/arm like he's holding it.

We actually taught ours to do it on command. It was the easiest dog trick to teach. He's pretty much already doing it so why not say "high-5" when he does it and hand him a bicuit? Now, if you say high-5 Duke slaps you 5. People love it. They don't have to know he does it all the time even when you don't say high-5. Sometimes he just wants a biscuit.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 21, 2010 10:45 AM
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When Duke gives the high 5 does he have a short windup and a quick release? Maybe the Redskins oculd use him as a QB... Seriously though, I love goldens. I used to have one - can't really have one where I live now - but if I ever got another dog, it would be a golden retriever.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 21, 2010 10:51 AM | Report abuse

THANK YOU! its like people here have Stockholm syndrome from the Vinny years. If Shanny/Allen decide to draft Clausen at #4 there is no way in H E double hockey sticks they put him behind the same or similar line we had last year. If they grab him at #4 you can be sure they will draft a tackle in the 2nd, sign some olineman, and maybe trade for some too. Its no longer a QB and nothing else situation. Unlike Vinny its not your 1st guy, a bunch of mid rounders chosen for god knows why since they don't fit any needs who'll all be cut and perhaps a 7th round gem.

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 21, 2010 10:38 AM | Report abuse

I don't think what you are describing is Stockholm syndrome.

I think everyone agrees the line needs to be addressed. How? is up to Shanny/Allen and I trust them to do a much better job than the last guy.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | January 21, 2010 10:52 AM | Report abuse

I don't get why the hiring of former Redskin coaches warrants their own posts. We were so happy to get rid of these clowns that if we never saw or heard of them again it would still be too soon...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 21, 2010 10:48 AM

Brownwood--

You should only write in the first person singular, "I", please. You don't speak for anyone but yourself up here. I am the only one who speaks for everyone.

We are always curious to see where these guys end up. They couldn't overcome the mess they were in, but they tried and we wish them well and are happy when they land on their feet. Except for Cerrato, and we would like to see him land on something else. But we are still curious to know what he lands on, even if he only ends up in a pile of Brownwood.

Posted by: League-Source | January 21, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse

if we go to a 3-4, I think Carter goes on the trading block.

He is coming off a career year, still has several years left in him and close to the end of an inexpensive contract. These are the kind of things that would bring a premium in a trade. Maybe we get a 2nd and 4th pick for him, providing the other party can sign him to a contract.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 21, 2010 12:36 AM

Carter does not have an inexpensive contract. He has the same contract that ARE, Archuleta, and Brandon Lloyd got ... and those contracts were ridiculous.

Posted by: dcsween | January 21, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Yo PA ... I'll take a freakin' biscuit!

Posted by: sjw1 | January 21, 2010 10:51 AM

LMAO!

Posted by: League-Source | January 21, 2010 10:57 AM | Report abuse

I think everyone agrees the line needs to be addressed. How? is up to Shanny/Allen and I trust them to do a much better job than the last guy.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | January 21, 2010 10:52 AM |

Certainly couldn't do much worse. What a phuking train wreck.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 21, 2010 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Wow Seattle is hiring all of our old coordinators and coaches.. They will suck as bad as we did last year. Awesome.

Posted by: FedorEm | January 21, 2010 10:46 AM

This isn't true, unless they hire Jim Zorn.

Posted by: League-Source | January 21, 2010 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 21, 2010 10:45 AM

That's my feeling as well. I don't see top 4 talent in Clausen this year. If he slid to the 20s in the first round, I could the Skins moving up to grab him by spending 2011 1st round pick or something. Other than that draft the QB in the second round.

Posted by: TWISI | January 21, 2010 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Here are 3 names for you guys to observe out side of the Great Okung:

Brian Bulaga
Sam Young
Charles Brown


Wathch out for Brian Bulaga....And remember where you heard that name FIRST...

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 21, 2010 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Carter does not have an inexpensive contract. He has the same contract that ARE, Archuleta, and Brandon Lloyd got ... and those contracts were ridiculous.

Posted by: dcsween | January 21, 2010 10:56 AM

1. He's earned his money this year. They never earned theirs.

2. It was a different contract because he took more of it in incentives.

3. His contract's about up and is probably pretty reasonable. It would be easy to negotiate a new 3-4 year deal if a team likes him.

Posted by: League-Source | January 21, 2010 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Wathch out for Brian Bulaga....And remember where you heard that name FIRST...

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 21, 2010 10:59 AM

4th is losing it. Posts 20th and tries to claim FIRST. And his name is 4th. Confused.

Posted by: League-Source | January 21, 2010 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Carter does not have an inexpensive contract. He has the same contract that ARE, Archuleta, and Brandon Lloyd got ... and those contracts were ridiculous.

Posted by: dcsween | January 21, 2010 10:56 AM

If I recall the Skins re-worked Carter's and ARE contract last year, basically front loading them. I don't think their base salaries are too expensive going forward.

Posted by: TWISI | January 21, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Glad the Redskins didn't draft Sanchez.

Just saw a comparison of his stats to JaMarcus Russell his rookie year. Their basically the same QB except Sanchez threw more picks.

Sanchez also had the help of a good o-line, and running game.

I can't even image what those numbers would look like if he was a Redskin.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | January 21, 2010 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Ref "stockholm syndrome"..
Yeah zjfr2 got it right.. Vinny held us hostage so long we began to like the pain and expect stupid draft picks.
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THANK YOU! its like people here have Stockholm syndrome from the Vinny years. If Shanny/Allen decide to draft Clausen at #4 there is no way in H E double hockey sticks they put him behind the same or similar line we had last year. If they grab him at #4 you can be sure they will draft a tackle in the 2nd, sign some olineman, and maybe trade for some too. Its no longer a QB and nothing else situation. Unlike Vinny its not your 1st guy, a bunch of mid rounders chosen for god knows why since they don't fit any needs who'll all be cut and perhaps a 7th round gem.

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 21, 2010 10:38 AM | Report abuse

I don't think what you are describing is Stockholm syndrome.

I think everyone agrees the line needs to be addressed. How? is up to Shanny/Allen and I trust them to do a much better job than the last guy.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | January 21, 2010 10:52 AM

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 21, 2010 11:06 AM | Report abuse

HEY YOU GUUUYS! (1,000 bonus points if you can name that movie)

2010 NFL Draft Prospect Scouting Report:

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Bryan Bulaga, T, Iowa
Bryan Bulaga is the latest in a long line of talented offensive linemen from the University of Iowa. Bulaga began his career at left guard where he started five of the seven games he played in as a freshmen. As a sophomore, he took over at left tackle, starting all 13 of Iowa's games last season. Bulaga has started all five games he's appeared in this season. He missed three games early in the year, but it shouldn't effect his draft status because he was ill, not injured. Bulaga has very quick feet for a big offensive lineman and uses his long arms to ride speed rushers right out of plays. He is not as strong as fellow Big ten linemen Joe Thomas or Jake Long, but he's still very young and has time to develop. Bulaga's run blocking has also improved steadily over the last two seasons. He is no longer satisfied just blocking the man in front of him, he moves on to the next level and tries to get a block on a linebacker as well. The best fit for Bulaga would be on a zone blocking team in the NFL, because of his familiarity with the system. Bulaga and his fellow offensive linemen played an outstanding game against Georgia Tech to end the season, and Bulaga has declared for the 2010 NFL draft. He should be a mid-to-late first round pick, but excellent workouts could push him into the top half of the first round.

Last Updated Jan-18-2010 by Randall Weida

http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=2088

(4th's Note - Notice what his specialty is...ZONE BLOCKING...DING DING DING)

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 21, 2010 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Here are 3 names for you guys to observe out side of the Great Okung:

Brian Bulaga
Sam Young
Charles Brown


Wathch out for Brian Bulaga....And remember where you heard that name FIRST...

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 21, 2010 10:59 AM | Report abuse

I really like Bulaga. The guy is a great run blocker. He seals the edge well and he can pass protect for Ricky Stanzi. Stanzi takes like 10 seconds before he ends up either running into the defender while that defender is being blocked or else he just throws a wounded duck up in the air and hopes for the best.

I also like Ciron Black and Selvish Capers. If we don't get Okung then I think 1 of these guys may do. I also think that Okung is by far the best prospect.

I'd go:

Okung
Campbell
Bulaga
Brown
Black
Capers

I think Trent Williams and Anthony Davis are right tackles that's why I'm not listing them.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 21, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse

More on Bulga....

Scouting Report: If I was building an offensive tackle in a lab, he's look like Bulaga. He's tall, but has a low center of gravity, huge wingspan, and is rock solid. Going into the season, what I wanted to see from Bulaga was his run blocking. Because his pass protecting is text book. He's got nimble feet, moves well laterally, and shows great control over defenders in pass protection. He uses that reach to re-direct players and dictate the action. he is strong enough he doesn't get beat with the bull rush, and is so smart, he does really well in assignments and picking up blitzers. On to his run blocking. This season has been a tough read, because of the Thyroid condition that sidelined him for the first few games and has limited him up until just the past 2 or 3 games. But what I have seen lately is, he's improved in his run blocking. He's going much better in space, getting to the second level and has improved in finishing his blocks in the run game. His strength has improved a ton, and the run game is where it really shows. He's showing a great punch.


Draft Status: Going into the year, I had no doubt Bulaga would have a huge season, declare and battle Russell Okung for that top spot at tackle. But his Thyroid problem really set him back. Having said that, he's rallied in a huge way, and that should motivate him to head to the NFL. The window of opportunity for these guys is small, and he needs to go now, while he can. Iowa is getting a ton of media attention, and he's played exceptional the past few weeks. He's a lock for a first round pick, and a strong finish and offseason could put him firmly in the no.2 tackle spot, which would mean top 15 pick and top 15 money.


Final Analysis: I love the lunch pail type head knocking offensive linemen. Bulaga is that guy. One thing you can never underestimate in an offensive lineman is a nasty streak and a complete disdain for his opponent and Bulaga has that like no other player in this draft. Seems his Thyroid problem is under control and will not be an issue in the future so we focus on what is good. He's an elite LT prospect, great pass protector, and shows a ton of potential as a run blocker. There really isn't much else you could ask for, is there? He's not the flashy prospect of some tackles the past few seasons, and he isn't getting the media attention he should, but his game really does speak for itself.


Reminds me of: Michael Oher, OT Baltimore Ravens-Similar builds, both exceptional pass protectors and both improving every week as run blockers. Very similar in size and style and Baluga looks to have a similar impact on the team that drafts him, that Oher has had for the Ravens.


http://www.draftboardinsider.com/cgi-bin/prospect.cgi?id=761

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 21, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Bulaga and his fellow offensive linemen played an outstanding game against Georgia Tech to end the season, and Bulaga has declared for the 2010 NFL draft. He should be a mid-to-late first round pick, but excellent workouts could push him into the top half of the first round.

(4th's Note - Notice what his specialty is...ZONE BLOCKING...DING DING DING)

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 21, 2010 11:07 AM

1. Everyone's offense played well against Georgia Tech's defense. Tech's gimmick was that their offense kept their defense off the field.

2. Mid- to late-first round doesn't help. We need him to have a bad workout and fall to the second round (or get arrested for public drunkenness in Iowa) or we need to find a late-second guy who would be pushed to early second by a good workout.

Otherwise, good find. We heard it here 20th. Or 4th.

Posted by: League-Source | January 21, 2010 11:12 AM | Report abuse

HEY YOU GUUUYS! (1,000 bonus points if you can name that movie)

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The movie: Goonies

The Character: Sloth

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 21, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse

4th - Goonies.

And Baluga is hardly a 'hidden gem' - hes projected late first, early second. I'm sure lots of people have noticed him.

Posted by: Rypien11 | January 21, 2010 11:14 AM | Report abuse

This may be new news, maybe I just somehow never noticed.
The NFL.Com site has an O-Line stat now on their pages for teams.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&statisticCategory=OFFENSIVE_LINE&conference=ALL&role=TM&season=2009&seasonType=REG

So people know
The skins ranked 7th in QB hits with 95 hits, 5th in sacks with 46.

They break down teams run ability going left right and center including a newish ranking:

Rush Pwr = Percentage of rushes on 3rd or 4th down with 2 or fewer yards to go that achieved a first down or TD. Also includes rushes on 1st-and-goal and 2nd-and-goal from the opponent's 2-yard line or closer.


Posted by: alex35332 | January 21, 2010 10:32 AM | Report abuse
That's great info, alex. Thanks. It clearly shows what we already knew. When you look at the power rushing stats, we ranked 15 in short yardage pickups on left and center, but right side ranked 31st.

Also, in # of rushes for negative yards, we ranked 25th on runs left, 28th up center, and 29th on runs to right.

And on average yards per attempt, we were 29th. By reducing the negative yds, we can substantially improve yds per attempt.

Clearly, OL is where we need to concentrate our rebuilding next year.

re-Posted by: frediefritz | January 21, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: frediefritz | January 21, 2010 11:14 AM | Report abuse

"Sherman Smith interviewing with Seahawks"

Boy, the times sure are changin'.

Used to be, the skins were interviewing former Seahawks' coaches.

Now, the Seahawks are interviewing former Redskin coaches.

What else do both teams have in common?: mediocrity, big stadiums, and a guy named Zorn.

In his eyes, both teams will always be the Ol' Maroon and Black.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 21, 2010 11:16 AM | Report abuse

THANK YOU! its like people here have Stockholm syndrome from the Vinny years. If Shanny/Allen decide to draft Clausen at #4 there is no way in H E double hockey sticks they put him behind the same or similar line we had last year. If they grab him at #4 you can be sure they will draft a tackle in the 2nd, sign some olineman, and maybe trade for some too. Its no longer a QB and nothing else situation. Unlike Vinny its not your 1st guy, a bunch of mid rounders chosen for god knows why since they don't fit any needs who'll all be cut and perhaps a 7th round gem.

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 21, 2010 10:38 AM

What if Shanny drafts Bradford? Does he get put behind the same OL as last year?

I in no way want a QB drafted, but those who say that Bradford would be killed playing behind this OL seem to think that the only way the OL gets fixed is if they draft OL or Clausen, but that Bradford would have to play behind the current OL.

What about Berry or Suh? McKoy? If either are picked, will we still have the same OL?

Posted by: Skins930 | January 21, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

I will back up what ever they decide to do because they know what they are doing. We have fun and talk football all day, but when it comes down to it none of us really knows what were talking about.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 21, 2010 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Have to disagree. Numerous posters predicted that the O line needed to be addressed a couple of yrs ago. Same thing with D line. So none of us are experts to say the least, but sometimes the outsiders have a better perspective then the insiders.

Posted by: ga8085 | January 21, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

ANd also remember, in addition to there being more than JUST one round, we also have options to trade back into round 1 if you want a player you really want....

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 21, 2010 11:18 AM | Report abuse

So none of us are experts to say the least, but sometimes the outsiders have a better perspective then the insiders.

Posted by: ga8085 | January 21, 2010 11:17 AM

We're talking about different insiders. Even us outsiders can see that these are not the same insiders. You're talking about Vinnie. We're talking about Shanahan.

Posted by: League-Source | January 21, 2010 11:20 AM | Report abuse


And Baluga is hardly a 'hidden gem' - hes projected late first, early second. I'm sure lots of people have noticed him.

Posted by: Rypien11 | January 21, 2010 11:14 AM

a hidden gem from RI......It's like all they know is Okung.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 21, 2010 11:20 AM | Report abuse

Ref "stockholm syndrome"..
Yeah zjfr2 got it right.. Vinny held us hostage so long we began to like the pain and expect stupid draft picks.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 21, 2010 11:06 AM | Report abuse

I don't remember anyone saying positive things about Vinny or liking his draft strategy.

If that was happening than you're right. I just don't think it was.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | January 21, 2010 11:21 AM | Report abuse

@Skins930 -

Bradford or any rookie QB is not required to start in their 1st year....FYI

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 21, 2010 11:22 AM | Report abuse

ANd also remember, in addition to there being more than JUST one round, we also have options to trade back into round 1 if you want a player you really want....

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 21, 2010 11:18 AM

Right! This is how we got Jason Campbell.

Posted by: League-Source | January 21, 2010 11:22 AM | Report abuse

We've got the personnel to field a 3-4 line.

Haynesworth, Montgomery, Daniels/Alexander

The 3-4 question, I think, has more to do with whether we've got the linebackers to pull it off.

Posted by: p1funk |

Disagree funk. Haynesworth, Daniels, Jarmon can move to DE, where Carter can play on passing downs or when in a 4-3, but the NG position has no obvious people on board. Monty's too moveable, Lo Alexander is too light and Golston is a backup- but wouldn't hold up season long, IMO.

If the skins can trade down for say, a 1 and a 2--coming from someone desperate to get the last top notch QB for instance--I might go with Cody from Alabama a NG with the first rounder, and address my OL needs with the two second rounders. A good drafting team should come up with two starters with those picks, and that's a good beginning to fix the offense.

The other option would be to wait a year for the 3-4 to become the primary defense, and go OL with the first rounder, if they can't make a deal, or if they are convinced the OT for the next ten years is available there.

Posted by: TheCork | January 21, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Have to disagree. Numerous posters predicted that the O line needed to be addressed a couple of yrs ago. Same thing with D line. So none of us are experts to say the least, but sometimes the outsiders have a better perspective then the insiders.

Posted by: ga8085 | January 21, 2010 11:17 AM |

Disagree all you want but my 11 year old daughter new that are o-line was bad.

I'm not talking about the obvious, and what every football expert has been saying for years.

There are many ways to address the o-line and Shanny will do it, but like I said if he drafts a QB I will support it.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 21, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Daniels is retiring. He just wanted to complete his 15th NFL season.


Unless he had a change of heart....

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 21, 2010 11:27 AM | Report abuse

You do realize there is more than JUST the 1st round of the draft, don't you?

Do any of youse?

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 21, 2010 10:30 AM |
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Would you care to review your offensive line drafting advice the last two seasons, and the results (given that the Skins ended up doing what you wanted, i.e. spend no high or even medium picks on it)².

At least you're willing to spend a 2nd now...perhaps in a few years you will be ready to leave the temple, grasshopper.

² Save for the drunken pizza bandit, who shouldn't have been a 3rd round pick anyways.
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | January 21, 2010 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Except for Cerrato, and we would like to see him land on something else.

Posted by: League-Source
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I'd like to see Cerrato land in Dallas or Philly.

Posted by: REXskins | January 21, 2010 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: TheCork | January 21, 2010 11:25 AM

What's your take on Bradford and Clausen?

Posted by: TWISI | January 21, 2010 11:29 AM | Report abuse

I'd go:

Okung
Campbell
Bulaga
Brown
Black
Capers

I think Trent Williams and Anthony Davis are right tackles that's why I'm not listing them.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 21, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse

I'm not advocating this, I'm just asking for peoples reaction. This is supposedly a deep draft for OTs. What if we took Clausen or Bradford at #4, traded our #1 next year and got back into the very late first/top of the second and went tackle tackle with those picks? Would anybody here like that?

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 21, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

@Skins930 -

Bradford or any rookie QB is not required to start in their 1st year....FYI

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 21, 2010 11:22 AM

Agreed. My point is that, like you said, there are more than on round in this draft and FA. The OL will be fixed and to justify not taking someone because the OL will not be addressed or that that person will get killed by playing behind this OL is straight tart.

The OL will get fixed this year.

Posted by: Skins930 | January 21, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Carter does not have an inexpensive contract. He has the same contract that ARE, Archuleta, and Brandon Lloyd got ... and those contracts were ridiculous.

Posted by: dcsween | January 21, 2010 10:56 AM

If I recall the Skins re-worked Carter's and ARE contract last year, basically front loading them. I don't think their base salaries are too expensive going forward.

Posted by: TWISI | January 21, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Right. Carter's salary for 2010 is $1.3 mil. He does have a $3.9 mil. signing bonus. I presume that means that was either paid at signing or is guaranteed.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 21, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

We're talking about different insiders. Even us outsiders can see that these are not the same insiders. You're talking about Vinnie. We're talking about Shanahan.

Posted by: League-Source | January 21, 2010 11:20 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, but Joe Gibbs was still here at that point. And I think he was still considered a respected insider. My point being is, always question the insiders, no matter how respected they are. Nobody is right 100% of the time. Classic example: Bellicheat - considered a genius, nobody questioned his moves. Now? Not so much

Posted by: ga8085 | January 21, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

COme ON MAN!! Just because he was able to make the score semi-close at the end means diddly-poo. That's what JC17 was doing this year!

Posted by: 4thFloor

I think I'm gonna go with Shanahan's analysis. If the guy who coached Elway says yup, that's what i want over anyone else at any other position, I'll back him.

The other two guys available up high are too injury prone, and I've yet to se a QB rally a comeback from a whirlpool.

Tebow will have his own teleminiustry in three years, or be TE, HB Wildcat specialist.

Posted by: TheCork | January 21, 2010 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Addressing the 3-4

I think Orakpo is much better suited on the line than as a LB. Fletch is as good as you get, but he's old, losing a step in the offseason is not unusual for older players. Rocky can't cover his shadow, plus many of our LB's are smallish. I read a post earlier addressing a LB with size we added last year. Can't remember his name...
think a guy to keep an eye on is Curtis Gatewood. He a 6'4'' 240pounds LB; and we signed him from Pittsburgh practice squad in the middle of last year.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | January 21, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

According to ESPN insider Mike Gandy is heading to UFA.

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 21, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

"The 3-4 question, I think, has more to do with whether we've got the linebackers to pull it off."


Linebackers and exceptional corner/safety play.

Check the best 3-4 teams, they also have outstanding cover corners and linebacker-lite safeties.

And that's what's so frustrating about the skins' secondary: we got pieces, not finished product in the secondary.

You'd think for all the backslappin' and fatmouthing and money exchangin' when he got signed, that D Hall would be a top corner.

Too, you look at L Landry and think, "WTF, tackle the guy already!"

If these two guys step it up and produce at top level next season, the skins' defense is then freed up to be creative with how the front 7 plays.

Yes, the team could use a big, speedy linebacker like Ronaldo McClain from 'Bama to take on guards, but a guy like him can be found.

The heart and desire needed for dominate secondary play to make it all work from Landry and Hall, won't be as easy to locate.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 21, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

The Seahawks, with two first rounders, would make a lovely trading partner on draft day. San Fran also has two picks, so hopefully one of them will want to move up, and hopefully we will have the good sense to consider it.

PS- does anyone know of a draft pick calculator? For comparing trades and whatnot

Posted by: mattsoundworld | January 21, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

p1funk gets credit for the Gatewood reference

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | January 21, 2010 11:36 AM | Report abuse

PS- does anyone know of a draft pick calculator? For comparing trades and whatnot

Posted by: mattsoundworld | January 21, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

http://walterfootball.com/draftchart.php

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 21, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse

I'm not advocating this, I'm just asking for peoples reaction. This is supposedly a deep draft for OTs. What if we took Clausen or Bradford at #4, traded our #1 next year and got back into the very late first/top of the second and went tackle tackle with those picks? Would anybody here like that?

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 21, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

I would most certainly advocate that. With the number of juniors coming out this year we should be able to jump back in and get a junior that could have been a top 10 pick next year. You really have to ask yourself where Brian Bulaga would have gone in next year's draft? He was hurt this year. Had he been healthy who knows? If we could land Clausen and Bulaga this year I think that is better than Bruce Campbell and maybe Pat Devlin next year. I would under no curcumstances take any other QB than Clausen this year though. Heck, I'd do this if I could get Suh, Berry, or maybe even Terrence Cody and Bulaga. I'd do that to get Okung and Spiller as well. I just think that a mid first rounder next year is worth less than a late first rounder this year.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 21, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Would you care to review your offensive line drafting advice the last two seasons, and the results (given that the Skins ended up doing what you wanted, i.e. spend no high or even medium picks on it)².


Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | January 21, 2010 11:29 AM


LEt's be accurate atleast. I said draft Def ROY/1st Team All Pro Brian Cushing.

The Blog magority was screaming OSackPo. The small minority was screaming the guy with the book deal.

SO, if we look at history, I would say I was on the right side. BEcause last year also had more than 1 round. And other teams plucked starters from said later rounds.

Defense rest.

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 21, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse

does anyone know of a draft pick calculator? For comparing trades and whatnot

Posted by: mattsoundworld | January 21, 2010 11:34 AM

FWIW:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/news/story?id=2410670

Posted by: League-Source | January 21, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

January 20, 2010

Mel Kiper's First Mock Draft
By Mel Kiper
ESPN.com

Things certainly will change as the workout season commences, but it's time to get the ball rolling for the 2010 NFL draft. Remember that my Big Board and position group rankings (now adjusted so all declared players are grouped) are a good primer. That said, off we go.


Two things that stand out early in the first mock draft of the season are the degree to which the first round is dominated by underclassmen -- they make up 21 of the 32 picks -- and how we're seeing a truly deep class of defensive linemen. Even though many NFL teams now employ the 3-4, the options up front for either 4-3 or 3-4 defenses are pretty significant in this draft.

1. St. Louis RamsRecord: 1-15
Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska

Nobody questions that the top need for the Rams is a quarterback. But unless St. Louis trades down -- an extremely difficult proposition on multiple levels -- it shouldn't take a quarterback with its first pick. Suh is maybe the most dominating defensive tackle I've seen in 32 years of doing this. He can be effective immediately for the Rams, and they may address the QB with a trade.

2. Detroit LionsRecord: 2-14
Gerald McCoy*, DT, Oklahoma

Getting McCoy both fills a big need for the Lions and is an extraordinarily good consolation prize for any team unable to get Suh. McCoy makes his living in opponents' backfields and is such a talent he could have landed in this position last year had he declared as a redshirt sophomore.

3. Tampa Bay BuccaneersRecord: 3-13
Eric Berry*, S, Tennessee

This is very early for a safety to go off the board, but Berry is that kind of talent. A player compared often (not unfairly) to Ed Reed, Berry is a difference-making safety headed to a league that has seen those types (Reed, Troy Polamalu, Bob Sanders) become more and more prevalent in recent years.

4. Washington Redskins Record: 4-12
Sam Bradford*, QB, Oklahoma

Mike Shanahan and the Redskins can get a quarterback here who might have been the top player taken had he opted to come out last year. The Redskins need to find their franchise quarterback, and when healthy, Bradford is an exceptionally accurate passer with an underrated arm. Shanahan also hit on his last QB selection when he drafted Jay Cutler in Denver.


5. Kansas City ChiefsRecord: 4-12
Russell Okung, OT, Oklahoma State

I think the Chiefs could use help at safety as well, but Berry likely won't fall this far, and they'd be reaching on either of the two other safeties with first-round grades. Okung could solve two problems, making him a good value -- he could step in at LT and allow the Chiefs to move Brandon Albert to the right side. A pick that can pay immediate dividends for the Chiefs.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | January 21, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

http://walterfootball.com/draftchart.php

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 21, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse
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Sexy sexy. The chart, I mean. Thanks for the linky

Posted by: mattsoundworld | January 21, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

and I've yet to se a QB rally a comeback from a whirlpool.


Posted by: TheCork | January 21, 2010 11:33 AM


See: Brees, Drew

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 21, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, but Joe Gibbs was still here at that point. And I think he was still considered a respected insider. My point being is, always question the insiders, no matter how respected they are. Nobody is right 100% of the time. Classic example: Bellicheat - considered a genius, nobody questioned his moves. Now? Not so much

Posted by: ga8085 | January 21, 2010 11:31 AM |

Gibbs was never a respected talent evaluater, he was a respected coach.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 21, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse

I would most certainly advocate that. With the number of juniors coming out this year we should be able to jump back in and get a junior that could have been a top 10 pick next year. You really have to ask yourself where Brian Bulaga would have gone in next year's draft? He was hurt this year. Had he been healthy who knows? If we could land Clausen and Bulaga this year I think that is better than Bruce Campbell and maybe Pat Devlin next year. I would under no curcumstances take any other QB than Clausen this year though. Heck, I'd do this if I could get Suh, Berry, or maybe even Terrence Cody and Bulaga. I'd do that to get Okung and Spiller as well. I just think that a mid first rounder next year is worth less than a late first rounder this year.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 21, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse

For once PA we are in agreement. I have been thinking if they could pull this off go Clausen at #4, tackle tackle with the next two picks, grab a back in the 4th, and then a guard and a flier on a big fat DT to be a backup NT.

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 21, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse

It's because of his play on the field.

Did anyone watch Notre Dame even play this year???????????? Wow! And you still want THIS GUY????

COme ON MAN!! Just because he was able to make the score semi-close at the end means diddly-poo. That's what JC17 was doing this year!

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 21, 2010 10:45 AM

Never draft a ND Qb that lost twice to Anne Arundel Community College (aka, Navy).

Posted by: Realness1 | January 21, 2010 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Wathch out for Brian Bulaga....And remember where you heard that name FIRST...

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 21, 2010 10:59 AM | Report abuse

i asked what people thought about on him after Iowa won their bowl game, and I got a little feed back. I thought he looked dominant. I'd take him. Maybe trade back and grab him.

Posted by: FedorEm | January 21, 2010 11:46 AM | Report abuse

For once PA we are in agreement. I have been thinking if they could pull this off go Clausen at #4, tackle tackle with the next two picks, grab a back in the 4th, and then a guard and a flier on a big fat DT to be a backup NT.

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 21, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse
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We don't have a third rounder, so the next two picks would be the 2nd and 4th.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | January 21, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Never draft a ND Qb that lost twice to Anne Arundel Community College (aka, Navy).

Posted by: Realness1

I'd rather have the Navy QB!

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | January 21, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Man! Shermans are dropping like flys now that Shanny's in town.

Posted by: edvar | January 21, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

@Skins930 -

Bradford or any rookie QB is not required to start in their 1st year....FYI

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 21, 2010 11:22 AM | Report abuse

I agree with that. It is not like we will be throwing a rookie behind this line. We didn't get in this predicament in one year and not sold that drafting all lineman is the only way or quickest way out. Not sure why people like Clausen over Bradford. Clausen is another Brady Quinn. He has not done anything to impress me. Bradford gets hurt and tries to rush back from an injury and re injures the same thing. I would hardly say that is injury prone. He played every game the 2 years prior. That being said OL is definitely the main problem, but I don't agree with drafting a lineman who not worthy that high. Is there someone that is worthy? We will find out. I'm not sold on Okung yet.

Posted by: Redskins001 | January 21, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

We don't have a third rounder, so the next two picks would be the 2nd and 4th.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | January 21, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

follow along matt, we're talking about trading our #1 next year to have a 1, plus another late 1 or high 2, and our 2 this year.....

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 21, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Gibbs was never a respected talent evaluater, he was a respected coach.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 21, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse

So just because he wasn't a talent evaluator, does that mean he didn't have the ability to see what the team's impeding weaknesses and potential problems would be??

Posted by: ga8085 | January 21, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

According to ESPN insider Mike Gandy is heading to UFA.

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 21, 2010 11:34 AM |

He's coming off an injury I think. However, both he and Chester Pitts, he too is coming off an injury, are worth a look this offseason.

Posted by: TWISI | January 21, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

I just think that a mid first rounder next year is worth less than a late first rounder this year.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 21, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse
Well, you are correct there, PAskin. Our 2011 1st round pick will only get us a 2nd pick this year. To move up from next year, each pick drops in value 1 rd. for this year's picks, ie, 2011 2nd rd = 2010 3rd rd. So if you use 2011 1st rd pick, all of the good OT's will probably be gone. I don't think that is a good idea.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 21, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

We don't have a third rounder, so the next two picks would be the 2nd and 4th.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | January 21, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

follow along matt, we're talking about trading our #1 next year to have a 1, plus another late 1 or high 2, and our 2 this year.....

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 21, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse
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Caught up with the thread. Anyone know what would happen draft-wise if there was a lockout in 2011?

Posted by: mattsoundworld | January 21, 2010 11:57 AM | Report abuse

LEt's be accurate atleast. I said draft Def ROY/1st Team All Pro Brian Cushing.

The Blog magority was screaming OSackPo. The small minority was screaming the guy with the book deal.

SO, if we look at history, I would say I was on the right side. BEcause last year also had more than 1 round. And other teams plucked starters from said later rounds.

Defense rest.

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 21, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse
So Cushing would have replaced Orakpo. We still have a porous OL, still end up 4-12. Maybe with Oher, which is what I was calling for(or maneuvering to get ASmith, who was hurt this year), maybe we would have done better. And we would now have one less glaring hole to fix in OL.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 21, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

With the talk of not being able to run a 3-4 defense because of the LB corp., with gatewood being signed of pitts practice squad, a lot of people are forgetting that in addition to the draft, there is still a few good name UFA coming into this year. Karlos Dansby would be a great pick up to put in the middle of that LB corp next to Fletcher with C. Wilson, R. Mac, and ORakpo. That being said, I say to try and draft Okung with 4th pick if he is still available, pick up Colt McCoy in the 2nd or 3rd round ( for all of you who want Bradford, remember Colt's comp. percentage was over 70% this year, which will help in a WC style of offense), then with the later picks, pick up some OL depth, CB, maybe a NT or more LB depth.
Tender JC and let him spend the first year getting hit while the new O-line starts to come together and groom McCoy for the 2011 season

Posted by: PanteraCFH | January 21, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Caught up with the thread. Anyone know what would happen draft-wise if there was a lockout in 2011?

Posted by: mattsoundworld | January 21, 2010 11:57 AM

There will be a draft in 2011.

Posted by: TWISI | January 21, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

not sure if someone has already posted this but the Redskins hired a new o-line coach...

From ESPN
"The Redskins hired former 49ers assistant Chris Foerster as their offensive line coach Thursday, a league source said."

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | January 21, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

[yawns]

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 21, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Not sure how many times I have read comments posted here stating how this QB or that QB or RB will get killed behind this OL.

The OL will be addressed this year by Mike and Bruce. How is the questions. Might be through FA. Could be through the draft. Most likely both.

But to think that OL will not be addressed because a QB, RB or any other non OL position is drafted 1st is stoopid. There is no way that Mike Shanahan will not address the OL.

Stop using "this OL" as the reason not to pick someone. "This OL" will not be used next year. This is not the same FO.

Posted by: donj1963 | January 21, 2010 12:10 PM | Report abuse

How about Dan LeFevour? If our needs are everywhere, why not grab a OT first and maybe grab this QB later? How does he compare with the other QB's out there, and how far will he slide? He looked awfully good in their Bowl Game.

Posted by: 1of9000 | January 21, 2010 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Our identity will be offense. As much as I'd love to be an old school rough physical defense. Our boy shanny will make us an offense based on the run and playaction. That being said, there is little chance we draft defensive players right off the bat. Though Berry is quite attractive at FS. I have a feeling that shanny with this high of a pick is going with the top rated QB. In my preference will be bradford, kiper is right. After that we get the best OL left on the board. Hopefulley the rams don't screw this all up by picking QB with#1 pick. And yes get the next Terrell Davis in round 5.

Posted by: sthai75 | January 21, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Anyone know what would happen draft-wise if there was a lockout in 2011?

Posted by: mattsoundworld | January 21, 2010 11:57 AM

There will be a draft in 2011.

Posted by: TWISI | January 21, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse
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So owners are going to deal out signing bonuses for players to sit on their rears during a potential lockout? Doesn't sound like a good plan.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | January 21, 2010 12:12 PM | Report abuse

From ESPN
"The Redskins hired former 49ers assistant Chris Foerster as their offensive line coach Thursday, a league source said."

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | January 21, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Who?? I'm sure as soon as J Reid goes through these posts and spots yours, he'll scramble to get this one up, lol.

Posted by: ga8085 | January 21, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Defense rest.

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 21, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse
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So Cushing would have replaced Orakpo. We still have a porous OL, still end up 4-12. Maybe with Oher, which is what I was calling for(or maneuvering to get ASmith, who was hurt this year), maybe we would have done better. And we would now have one less glaring hole to fix in OL.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 21, 2010 11:59 AM |
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I was calling for Oher until Orakpo suddenly became available, then I was down with drafting Orakpo. Although Danny skipping on down to pick his mancrush in the first couple seconds, rather than see if some team would give up an arm and a leg to trade up for Orakpo, was foolish.

(And for the record, I was also said that Oher was better than A. Smith, and that William Beatty was worth a look if we did manage a trade back.)

But the point that 4thFloor is skipping is that this was one pick in one draft. (I've heard on this very thread that there is more than one round in a draft?)

Somebody on this thread has been vocal about not using any high draft picks on O.L. the last two years, and that has been a failed strategy.

And for those of you saying "hey, we'll solve it by picking tackle with the next two", WHO are you going to pick? The fact is anyone who looks like they can step in and start at L.T. is going to be gone after the first round.

After that you have developmental picks/gambles, which we have run out of time to try.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | January 21, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

One job move filled an opening in Washington while creating another in San Francisco.

The Redskins hired former 49ers assistant Chris Foerster as their offensive line coach Thursday, a league source said.

The 49ers granted Foerster permission to speak with the Redskins, and Washington ultimately decided to hire him. Now San Francisco must replace Foerster, who joined the 49ers in 2008 after working for the Baltimore Ravens from 2005-2007, the Miami Dolphins in 2004, the Indianapolis Colts from 2002 to 2003, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers from 1998 to 2001 and the Minnesota Vikings from 1993 to 1995.

Foerster's hire in Washington nearly completes the Redskins' offensive coaching staff, though the team still is looking to hire a receivers coach.

Adam Schefter is ESPN's NFL Insider

Posted by: frediefritz | January 21, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

this conversation would be much better if people were listing potential free agents instead of draft scenarios. until we go through FA whats the point in discussing this?

Posted by: follybeach | January 21, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Chris Foerster is an interesting choice in that I associated the 49ers and Ravens line as power blocking running schemes.

Posted by: TWISI | January 21, 2010 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Who?? I'm sure as soon as J Reid goes through these posts and spots yours, he'll scramble to get this one up, lol.

Posted by: ga8085 | January 21, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

I mean someones gotta read ESPN for him...

We'd get news faster if the just paid someone to listen to 980 and click 'refresh' every couple minutes on ESPN.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | January 21, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

this conversation would be much better if people were listing potential free agents instead of draft scenarios. until we go through FA whats the point in discussing this?

Posted by: follybeach | January 21, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse
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And spoil this exercise in stat fudging, opinion promoting, and character assassination with actual facts and figures? For shame!

Posted by: mattsoundworld | January 21, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse

this conversation would be much better if people were listing potential free agents instead of draft scenarios. until we go through FA whats the point in discussing this?

Posted by: follybeach | January 21, 2010 12:16 PM

Bruce Allen is known for his hx of signing FA not much suucess in drafting. But I believe there will be little FA activity if there is no labour aggreement.

Posted by: sthai75 | January 21, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Not Redskins news, yet should make many of us happy. Oh, and F dallas!

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Cowboys give Phillips a three-year deal
Posted by Mike Florio on January 21, 2010 12:18 PM ET
The Dallas Cowboys held an option on Wade Phillips' contract for 2010.

As expected, owner Jerry Jones has decided to pick up the option.

According to Adam Schefter of ESPN, Jones also has added two years to the deal.

So it's a three-year contract (or a two-year extension), which puts Phillips under contract through 2012.

And, as we mentioned a little bit ago, the devil will be in the details. For example, the final year of the new contract might also be an option year, which would allow the Cowboys to walk away with no financial obligation.

Regardless, Wade will be back next year.

And Giants, Redskins, and Eagles fans suddenly feel a little bit better about their day.

Posted by: Skins930 | January 21, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Here are 3 names for you guys to observe out side of the Great Okung:

Brian Bulaga
Sam Young
Charles Brown


Wathch out for Brian Bulaga....And remember where you heard that name FIRST...

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 21, 2010 10:59 AM
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4th, listed that name (Bulaga) weeks ago when talking about OT draft possibilities.

Depended on whether he declared or not and he did declare.

He's probably the 4th or 5th best LT in the draft should go between 12-25

Young, I think will project as a RT in the pros

LT - Okung, Campbell, Davis, Bulaga, Brown
are my top 5

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 21, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | January 21, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Maybe trade back and grab him.

Posted by: FedorEm

__________________

Unfortuneately Fedex, trading down a top 5 pick is harding than folding 4 aces

Posted by: ElYeah | January 21, 2010 12:30 PM | Report abuse

SO, if we look at history, I would say I was on the right side. BEcause last year also had more than 1 round. And other teams plucked starters from said later rounds.

Defense rest.

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 21, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse
So Cushing would have replaced Orakpo. We still have a porous OL, still end up 4-12. Maybe with Oher, which is what I was calling for(or maneuvering to get ASmith, who was hurt this year), maybe we would have done better. And we would now have one less glaring hole to fix in OL.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 21, 2010 11:59 AM


But then we still have no one for SAM and TEs/WRs/RBs would have killed us like they did this year with OSackpo checking them.

Also, if you check out my last paragraph, there is more than one round. And starters were plucked from said later rounds on the offensive line.

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 21, 2010 12:33 PM | Report abuse

...and act like we know what were talking about.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 21, 2010 12:53 PM

Already happening...

Posted by: Skins930 | January 21, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

The irony, from Washington to Washington with Love. Is it a payback? LOL. Would they take Campbell too (please pretty please)?

Posted by: hock1 | January 21, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Really Seattle should take Campbell to.. Hasselbeck is getting old and had a tough year.. and who knows Zorn might end up back there again too... Go for JC Seahawks.. you can do it...

Posted by: sovine08 | January 21, 2010 1:26 PM | Report abuse

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