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Skins Add an Offensive Lineman

The Redskins have signed offensive lineman D'Anthony Batiste.

According to the team, Batiste, who is in his third season, played and started four games at guard for the Atlanta Falcons in 2007. He was originally signed by Dallas as an undrafted free agent in 2006. He spent the first six weeks of that season on the Cowboys practice squad before being signed by Carolina. He did not see any action for the Panthers. A native of Marksville, La., Batiste played at the University of Louisiana-Lafayette.

By Cindy Boren  |  December 10, 2008; 10:50 AM ET
 
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Everyone oogles over the Giants and what a great thing they've got going up there. Remember that the Giants success was partly predicated on Coughlin having the stones to stand up and be the HC and not let guys like Tiki, Shockey and Plax be the tone-setters.

Posted by: p1funk | December 10, 2008 9:51 AM | Report abuse

Couldn't have said it better myself. Thanks!

Posted by: bigfish761

I think all the anti-Zorn folks want to ignore this, since it makes perfect sense, and contradicts their agenda.
FO grow some big ones and back the HC!


Posted by: lsskinsfan

I'm borderline anti-Zorn (this weekend might put me over the edge) but few people wouldn't back the HC in this situation.

However, there is a HUGE difference between a guy like Tom Coughlin who was well respected, has been around forever, and has had measures of success in the league and Jim Zorn, who is a rookie head coach that nobody outside of Seattle truly knows.

When Atlanta players (including our own DHall) started popping off at the mouth towards Bobby Petrino, which side was the "correct" side to support?

Zorn's obviously not a d-bag like Petrino, but the argument of talented, proven players vs. unproven rookie HC remains the same.

My opinion is that if Portis is complaining, generally speaking, there's an issue. And I get the feeling Portis isn't the only one that feels less-than-satisfied with Zorn (Cooley's another that comes to mind).

Posted by: psps23

Posted by: psps23 | December 10, 2008 10:57 AM | Report abuse

To the PS?

Posted by: PEACE8 | December 10, 2008 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Ummm no he was #4 in rushing yards in 2003 and in 2005 he was tied for 5th in rushing TD's with 12, 2,000 yards 20 TD's for carolina in 2 healthy years meanwhile the two years after we cut him we had 13 rushing td's total as a team.

truth, where are you getting your stats? he was 4th in the league in yards, 4th in the league in yds/carry at 4.5 and 4th in the league at 103.1 yds per game.

Posted by: zjfr2 | December 10, 2008 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: zjfr2 | December 10, 2008 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Ok, so obviously were not getting rid of Samuels, Thomas, Jansen, or Carter, since their cap hits are 9, 13, 6 and 7 mil. Ugh.

We still need to bring in young guys to challenge them and/or take their spots.

Posted by: Rypien11 | December 10, 2008 10:59 AM | Report abuse

basically a top 5 season and a superbowl run, wanna know what trung did that year?

Posted by: zjfr2 | December 10, 2008 10:55 AM | Report abuse


Let's get this straight :

ChrisLarry - "Truth is an idiot, Stephen Davis didn't have one "pretty good" year, he had the best year ever OMG"

The Truth - "Well here's stats the prove otherwise."

ChrisLarry - "Dude, let's just not talk anymore, we don't like each other, blah blah blah."

Posted by: TheTruth11 | December 10, 2008 10:56 AM | Report abuse

EXCEPT THAT ALL YOUR STATS WERE WRONG!

Posted by: zjfr2 | December 10, 2008 11:00 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: zjfr2 | December 10, 2008 11:01 AM | Report abuse

I would say a top 10 season and he played in the Superbowl.

But I wasn't talking about the Panthers, I was talking about Stephen Davis.

And he obviously had a better year than Candidate, but we got Portis the next year and he's been pretty darn good IMO.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | December 10, 2008 11:00 AM | Report abuse

Yeah and we had to get him because we let a guy walk who had more TD's in 2005 (portis' first year here) and we had to send Champ and a 2nd to get him.

Posted by: zjfr2 | December 10, 2008 11:03 AM | Report abuse

p-funk......I am pro-transparency in almost every other venue...in pro football its retarded. A team should be broadcasting Mixilplix at all times....

The accountability, fights, explanations should all be done in house and distributed to everyone else via crafted talking points....

Isn't the opposite why we find ourselves where we are now, re:zorn/portis.

Posted by: chrislarry | December 10, 2008 10:57 AM | Report abuse

I'd have to agree with this statement. More and more good teams are becoming stand offish against the media and somewhat shady in their press reports. The Patriots, Giants, Colts immediately come to mind. I'm sure there are others.

Posted by: bigfish761 | December 10, 2008 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Much appreciate Brown. I'm just glad we're actually playing meaningful games for once in December.

Posted by: Redcoat | December 10, 2008 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Signed him from Atlanta's practice squad to our active roster.
For the rest of the year.
(or at least the rest of the regular season)

Posted by: daggar | December 10, 2008 11:04 AM | Report abuse

JLC = Leigh Torrence
zjfr2 = Stephen Davis

Calm down, dude. 2003 is LONG past.

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 10, 2008 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Ahhh, I was wondering what was going to happen with the Erasmus roster spot and was just starting to ask. Question answered.

Posted by: PatM1 | December 10, 2008 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Redcoat,

Just send us Parcells when you're done with him.

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 10, 2008 11:05 AM | Report abuse

rc, Zorn needs to talk this through with Portis, nothing needs to be done on the field, but Zman needs to let him know that going forward, he'll handle this better, and he needs to let Portis know the consequences of him ripping the coach in the media again. my .02...

Posted by: BeantownGreg | December 10, 2008 11:05 AM | Report abuse

you would say a top 10 season because you have all the wrong stats, go to NFL.com, in every category except TD's Davis was top 5 in 2003, and in 2005 he was top 5 in TD's

Posted by: zjfr2 | December 10, 2008 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Thats why i will rep my idea from yesterday ryp;

2010 uncapped, snyds goes bonkers this offseason by freeing up cap space and waiving his majic wand.... unfront bonuses of extraordinary amounts, keeping but benching some of those cap hit non playing well players.

Then in 2010, we cut those old guys and any FA that didnt work out from 2009 without the cap hit.

Shrewd, and beautiful at the same time.

Posted by: Zeebs | December 10, 2008 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Zeebs | December 10, 2008 11:06 AM | Report abuse

There will always be people who want to jettison the best player the team has. Maybe they're closet masochists and actually enjoy things more when the team is lousy (and without Portis, this team would be 2-11 or 3-10 right now, not 7-6).

They're like a kid who steps into quicksand and decides to cheer himself up by eating a few arsenic-laced brownies.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | December 10, 2008 11:06 AM | Report abuse

When can we get over the Portis-Bailey trde? Which guy has single handedly helped their team win more games since then? IMHO this was one of the better trades we made. It didn't appear so at the time but I believe it has evened out since then.

Posted by: bigfish761 | December 10, 2008 11:06 AM | Report abuse

JLC = Leigh Torrence
zjfr2 = Stephen Davis

Calm down, dude. 2003 is LONG past.

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 10, 2008 11:04 AM | Report abuse

LOL very true, ok I'm calm, truth is generally annoying but to watch him argue with CL and spout nothing but incorrect stats is frustrating.

Posted by: zjfr2 | December 10, 2008 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: CindyBoren | December 10, 2008 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Jacky-Z, lets both agree to drop it, pointless even when right. Arguing with the truth should get you instant nomination for a Darwin Award.....

He can think I suck, I am fine with that.

Posted by: chrislarry | December 10, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

EXCEPT THAT ALL YOUR STATS WERE WRONG!

Posted by: zjfr2 | December 10, 2008 11:00 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: zjfr2

got it all from Pro Football Reference

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2003/leaders.htm

Posted by: TheTruth11 | December 10, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

When can we get over the Portis-Bailey trde? Which guy has single handedly helped their team win more games since then? IMHO this was one of the better trades we made. It didn't appear so at the time but I believe it has evened out since then.

Posted by: bigfish761 | December 10, 2008 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Totally agree, CP was a great trade, which was all back to my original point, I don't want to see this go the Spurrier/Davis route where we end up shipping out one way or another our franchise back and keeping the still very unproven rookie head coach. Yes backs are becoming more interchangeable, but that is just because the stud franchise guys are scarce, sure we could replace CP, but not with guys that are as consistent and dependable or special.

Posted by: zjfr2 | December 10, 2008 11:10 AM | Report abuse

I don't understand the whole "We cannot be held hostage by one great player" attitude.

We're lucky to have a great player.

Listen, Michael Jordan was a mean SOB, even with his own teammates at times - didn't he punch/choke Steve Kerr in a practice once?

What would these "The Coach is Always Right" folk say about that? Get rid of Jordan because his ego is huge? Get rid of him for the "good of the team?"

Crap.

Portis may not be MJ, but he's the closest thing the Redskins have to a consistent star on offense.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | December 10, 2008 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Leigh Torrance's was traded for anything. His contract was up this year anyway. And given his interchangeable position in the defense AND special teams and the OBVIOUS upgrade provided by D. Hall (Which JLC fails to address) this move was not considered a bad one.

Not to mention he may be available in the offseason for a resign anyway.

Posted by: Predator48 | December 10, 2008 11:05 AM

The Torrence drum banging has nothing to do with DeAngelo Hall and everything to do with Justin Tryon and Erasmus James. And Torrence has eight tackles in his four games as a Saint ... I figure he gets re-signed by the team that made the move for him (though I do recognize that, by picking him up off waivers, the Saints picked up the rest of the Skins contract on this season ... I hope we are able to sign DeAngelo Hall, who we only have on the Raiders contract).

Posted by: dcsween | December 10, 2008 11:11 AM | Report abuse

And my thing was, I wasn't originally arguing whether losing Stephen Davis hurt us or not, I was just trying to say that Davis in 03 had a pretty good year, not an out-of-his mind year or whatever ChrisLarry was trying to insinuate.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | December 10, 2008 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Michael Jordan could not have been Michael Jordan without Scotty Pippen and Dennis Rodman.

Posted by: dcsween | December 10, 2008 11:13 AM | Report abuse

zj, who said anything, at ANY time about shipping portis out of town, EVER???

Not to mention, it would cost 18 PLUS MILLION in order to do so.

CP and Zorn, had a disagreement. Period.

Don't make more out of this than needs to be made...

Posted by: BeantownGreg | December 10, 2008 11:13 AM | Report abuse

The offensive line more than any other area is what is plaguing the Redskins. It's not Zorn, Portis, or Campbell, or the lack of a pass rush. It is the O-Line. There is a problem when the best lineman - Samuels has given up way too many sacks this year. Only two teams have given up more sacks.

How does Cerrato still have a job after totally ignoring the core of a football team and instead going after position players? The best teams in the league usually have the best offensive lines in the league, and until the Redskins get at least a mediocre line, they will suffer.

Posted by: tfpaul | December 10, 2008 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Obviously they backed Petrino or the FO because you see what happened to Hall after that.

Posted by: bigfish761 | December 10, 2008 10:58 AM

Dude, DHall was in the last year of his rookie ocntract and the Falcons knew wasn't gonna stay with the team (He didn't want to stay with the team and the team didn't want him).


so they did the smart thing and traded him why he had value......

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 10, 2008 11:14 AM | Report abuse

The Truth, while you're up here (and sorry to change the subject), what does this year's draft prospects look like at free safety?

Posted by: dcsween | December 10, 2008 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Micheal Jordan wouldn't have been Micheal Jordan without Bill Wennington and Luke Longley.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | December 10, 2008 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Let me get this right,

1) Erasmus James was always going to clear waivers so Vinny wasted a 7th rd pick.

2) Jason Taylor spent no time this off season preparing for football so we've lost a 2nd and 6th round picks.

3) We cut a special teams guy to keep on we should have cut a long time ago and one we gave up a pick for. Even if a 7th, a draft pick is a draft pick. You never know (see Horton)

4) We totally missed on trying to get Kris Jenkins this off season.

5) Total waste of a pick on Durant Brooks. Was that a 6th?

6) Jury is still out on the remining 2008 draft picks but it's not looking like the overall grade a few years from now is going to anything more than an average C. Horton might make it a B-

Hmmm... I wonder how Vinny's year end performance review looks. What a dope who needs to go.

I say Marty Shotenheimer (sp) for GM

Posted by: Devo2 | December 10, 2008 11:15 AM | Report abuse

jack;

we couldnt replace him with someone special. but another FO maybe could.

thus lies the conundrum of Snyds

Posted by: Zeebs | December 10, 2008 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Sorry if this has already been posted.
From SI.com

Redskins coach Jim Zorn may be vying for his job over the final three games. Sports talk callers aren't the only ones wondering whether the Redskins might have Bill Cowher on speed dial for 2009. Redskins Park sources are also pondering if the team's 1-4 collapse to practically ruin its once sure playoff chances could also claim the coach. "The honeymoon is definitely over," said one team insider of Redskins owner Dan Snyder and Zorn. Zorn was given a modest contract by NFL standards as insiders questioned whether Washington was awaiting Cowher's possible return in 2009. Indeed, Cowher recently told The Washington Times that Snyder tried to lure him from retirement before hiring Zorn despite the owner's earlier denial.

Ugh, starting to get that queasy-Snyder meddling feeling again. If this happens Campbell should pull a Champ and demand outta-there - This constant change is sure to be ruining his career.

Posted by: skinswest | December 10, 2008 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Wilbon said something interesting in the video with TheCindy that was linked to before.

He said the difference between basketball and football is that basketball is a players game and football is a coaches game.

I'd agree with that, what do you guys think? Great players certainly help, but you have 3 different teams on the field so the impact of any one of them gets diluted overall, which brings the schemes and the management of overall 'chemistry' to the fore IMHO.

Posted by: Redcoat | December 10, 2008 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Michael Jordan could not have been Michael Jordan without Scotty Pippen and Dennis Rodman.

err, I think he still would've been Michael Jordan.

Posted by: daggar | December 10, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

... How does Cerrato still have a job after totally ignoring the core of a football team and instead going after position players? ...

Posted by: tfpaul | December 10, 2008 11:14 AM

Combination of black-and-white photos and a tube of K-Y jelly.

I assume your point was rhetorical ... because OL rookie names don't sell jerseys.

Posted by: dcsween | December 10, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

need some fantasy advice.

i got matt ryan against TB (whos in a must win situation) in the dome again, or romo against giants D in NY.

And i've somehow managed to get westbrook, barber, and jacobs as my RBs.

Suggestions??

Posted by: AisforAdam | December 10, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

"Jacky-Z, lets both agree to drop it, pointless even when right. Arguing with the truth should get you instant nomination for a Darwin Award.....

He can think I suck, I am fine with that.

Posted by: chrislarry "

Actually I don't.

Stop trying to make me look like some bad guy who is obsessed with you. I was just talking sports on a sports blog.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | December 10, 2008 11:18 AM | Report abuse

and especially with the "If he wants to think I suck that's fine" comment, don't put words in my mouth.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | December 10, 2008 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Greg, its been a season of disagreements starting back in the preseason when Zorn made a joke about CP being paid to workout, then the playing in the preseason thing, then the can't take himself out thing, then the make fun of CP for saying he was bleeding with the "was it gushing", then the in his face on camera yelling match over CP putting himself back in after he got his helmet fixed, and now this.

Not to mention letting Jansen (a cornerstone of your franchise for years) find out through the media he'd been benched and continuously blaming your players for not executing your brilliant schemes like leaving a backup center 1-on-1 against Suggs. Don't trivialize this, Zorn hasn't handled the "people" side of his job well at all since he got here which isn't a big deal when your winning, but becomes a huge deal when you're losing. That was the genius of Gibbs, he never would have done any of that, and that's why come heck or high water his players played their guts out for him.

Posted by: zjfr2 | December 10, 2008 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Micheal Jordan wouldn't have been Micheal Jordan without Bill Wennington and Luke Longley.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | December 10, 2008 11:15 AM

I hope you're joking...but I must say I'm loving the old 90's Bulls references. I loved those teams and I used to date Craig Hodges' neice back in the day. Those were the good 'ol days...

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 10, 2008 11:19 AM | Report abuse

I hate to beat a dead horse, but again I think it comes back to whether Zorn has a rigid agenda or a flexible one.

The punt return situation is a perfect example.

Why hasn't DeAngelo Hall been put back there? He can't do any worse than ARE is doing.

It's irrational. And stubborn.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | December 10, 2008 11:19 AM | Report abuse

I say we trade back all our picks to get all 32 7th round draft picks. that way we can get 32 chris hortons...

Posted by: alex35332 | December 10, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

man, I can't help but think back to that year we had Marty as a coach. It is too bad that egos could not be put aside. I wonder if Danny regrets it looking back now. Though, he still has A LOT to learn it seems he has loosened the grip on his power trip and has learned to a degree that you have to let coaches coach and let them have a serious amount of input on personnel. Marty is a tough SOB but seems like he gets guys to buy into his system.

Posted by: Skins211 | December 10, 2008 11:23 AM | Report abuse

zj, thanks for the response, but you completely side-stepped my question.....


who said anything, at ANY time about shipping portis out of town, EVER???

The answer is no one.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | December 10, 2008 11:23 AM | Report abuse

I know the team is in a huge slump but I fail to see how the Redskins need lots of help to make the playoffs. The Skins need less help this year than in past years. The only problem being those teams were getting hot and it looks like this team is about to unravel. They do play the Bengals and Niners, two teams that the redskins are capable of beating and we have a home game against philly. If we win out(I know, unlikely given current state of the team), all we need is an Atlanta loss and a Dallas loss to New York or Philly to make the playoffs.

Posted by: bwhare1 | December 10, 2008 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Michael Jordan wouldn't have been Michael Jordan without Pete Myers.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | December 10, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: BeantownGreg | December 10, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

zj, thanks for the response, but you completely side-stepped my question.....


who said anything, at ANY time about shipping portis out of town, EVER???

The answer is no one.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | December 10, 2008 11:23 AM | Report abuse

First off, tons of people have been saying that on here, I don't see how with his contract but Lavar did pay money back just to get out of town and CP certainly has enough ego to maybe do something similar, I'm just saying if they don't hug it out I hope Zorn goes, not our best player and only consistent offensive weapon.

Posted by: zjfr2 | December 10, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

This is rather irrelevant and trivial but did anyone else notice the Skins signing of Marques Hagans yesterday? He is better at being a Randel El than Randel El. He was a quarterback at UVA who could scramble like no one else and returned punts as well. He is now listed as a wide receiver. I am hoping for the best for him.

Posted by: driley | December 10, 2008 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Zorn and Vinny need to go. Zorn reminds me of a weird version of Spurrier. His antics of calling players out and "telling the truth" were cool when we were winning. He doesn't know how to communicate with players and it appears that he is close to losing the locker room. Any GM who has a draft worst than Vinny's would have been fired already. Snyder needs to cancel his radio show immediately. Vinny isn't good enough to do anything but focus on football.

Posted by: dcwun | December 10, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

I'd agree with that, what do you guys think? Great players certainly help, but you have 3 different teams on the field so the impact of any one of them gets diluted overall, which brings the schemes and the management of overall 'chemistry' to the fore IMHO.

Posted by: Redcoat | December 10, 2008 11:16 AM

In the NFL, NO player is irreplaceable. NOBODY.

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 10, 2008 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Obviously they backed Petrino or the FO because you see what happened to Hall after that.

Posted by: bigfish761

The question wasn't "who did they support?", the question was "which was the 'correct' side to support?"

The players had issues with Petrino. Those issues weren't just some bitter ramblings of a prima-donna player. They were actual issues that were indicative of a larger problem.

And when Petrino left, the players were still there.

If this is just Portis that has these "issues" with Zorn, then I'd say it's nothing to get too excited over. But I have this sinking feeling that it's not just Portis. Maybe not everyone is going to come out to the public like this, but I do think there are other guys on the team don't take kindly to his "the scheme is fine", "execution" is the problem when the team has 4 pro-bowlers on offense and can't score more than 11 ppg over the last 5 weeks.

That's the way I see it.

Posted by: psps23 | December 10, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Sween - Tryon still has more upside than torrence......

All of this is long term thinking. I can't recall but maybe once or twice in the past 2 years Leigh Torrence downing the ball inside the 10.

Alot of people can play special team.

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 10, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

I don't care what Cooley and Portis think.

Zorn was part of Holmgren's team that beat us in the playoffs two times and went to the Super Bowl one of those years.

Apparently Portis and Cooley think that system is garbage..you know, because they have rings with...oh wait, that's right..they dont have any. They've never even SNIFFED a super bowl.

Posted by: kreator6996 | December 10, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Marty as GM: I think not. Why not cherry-pick a young guy from one of the following Front Offices:

Carolina (they always have strong defensive and offensive linemen)

Giants (they always find cheap, durable backs)

Saints (who finds all them speedy/quality guys like Colston and Pierre Thomas?)

Tampa Bay (good talent at all positions except q-back)

Denver (who knew Cutler was better than Young and Leinhart-- sign him up!)

Pittsburg (somebody there is finding all these brutal linebackers and safeties)

Baltimore (okay, so Ozzie doesn't have a young guy who helped him draft that killa defense? And who knew about Flacco and McClain? I say sign'em up)

San Diego (their problem isn't talent--it's coaching. Norv Turner is as over rated and Mike Martz. But who knew about Gates and Merriman? let's get'm in our FO)

Who would give up a pick for a quality GM? Given his history, I bet Vinny Cerrato would. I know I would at this point.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 10, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

dcsween,

My point was that the Leigh Torrence cut is not as egregious as some the other blunders Vinny and Co. have made. So why harp on it so much.

The Jason Taylor trade is much more damning to the team moving forward, and since Jason is a hindsight 20/20 GM, it would make more sense to target his venom here.

The Leigh Torrence hangup just makes for funny replies.

Posted by: Predator48 | December 10, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Who knew about Chris Horton?
Chris Cooley? Sean Taylor? LaRon Landry?

C'mon.
Cutler was highly rated, many thought hed be good.
Merriman was highly rated. Flacco was too.
They also drafted Kyle Boller...

Posted by: kreator6996 | December 10, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Managing a football team is a "Dictatorship", I believe after this season, there will definitely be roster changes. Zorn will bring in "his" type of
players for the west coast to make it run.
In his case, the Redskins are like a Ferrari with a 4-cylinder engine; it revs
up, but goes nowhere fast!

Posted by: madalao | December 10, 2008 12:06 PM | Report abuse

wow they picked up a practice squad player! They really added some real depth there. I feel better about the offensive line already. Vinny you suck and you have ruined this team once again. If he was working for a real corporation the board would fire him. No more passes for Vinny fire him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: bigjofc | December 10, 2008 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Michael Jordan would not have been Michael Jordan without James Jordan.

Posted by: directaction | December 10, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

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