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Skins Looking at Veteran Offensive Linemen

Obviously, the offensive line, and tackle in particular, is a concern and, to that end, the Skins have brought in Jeremy Bridges, who has been in the league since 2003. He spent that season with Philadelphia, then two years with Arizona before becoming a starter with Carolina in 2006-2007. He started four games for Carolina last season, but seems to have played more guard than tackle lately (the Skins have him listed as a guard/tackle).

Guard Frank Davis, who was signed by Detroit as an undrafted free agent in 2006 and had a brief stint with the Bengals last season (he was quickly waived), is also here on a non-roster basis. And Anthony Oakley, who is also listed by the Skins as a G/T, has been around the NFl since 2004. He broke in with Cleveland that year, was on Chicago's roster in 2005-2006 and bounced between Arizona, KC and Houston last season.

Bridges has the best pedigree of the bunch, and with many coaches in this building hoping for an upgrade over the Stephon Heyer/Jon Jansen pairing at right tackle, there is a strong chance that someone who shows will will get signed. Right tackle Mike Williams, a 400-pound project who has not played in the NFL since 2005, was also signed recently but is not taking part in minicamp, Coach Jim Zorn said, as he tries to get in shape.

By Jason La Canfora  |  May 1, 2009; 10:40 AM ET
 
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If you get enough 34 year olds who can last you 5-6 games then you can cover a whole season.

Posted by: alex35332 | May 1, 2009 11:12 AM | Report abuse

good gravy. WTF. I hope they have some sort of idea about what to do here. 'cause this is bush league.

I hope the trainers have enough duct tape to keep these guys playing... eeeech.

Posted by: DikShuttle | May 1, 2009 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Lisa - Re: Manning on Rookies

I feel that is the approach we SHOULD take. Set the bar real low for rookies. If they surpass it, GREAT. If they don't, well the bar wasn't set high in the 1st place. And just gradually raise it year over year until year 3 or 4.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 1, 2009 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Jeremy Bridges- 29
Frank Davis- 27
Anthony Oakley- 27
Mike Williams- 25

isn't it sad when 29 looks young on a team.

Posted by: alex35332 | May 1, 2009 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Perhaps some intrepid reporter with access to redskins' FO types should ask why the team tries to get by on the cheap when it comes to offensive linemen.

I mean, how does Vinny say, "Well, we felt the draft wasn't that deep when it came to linemen," then invite to mini-camp older, used up, cast-off guys that other teams let go of to draft from the allegedly shallow pool of linemen?

Am I the only one to see the inherent inconsistency in that approach?

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 1, 2009 11:22 AM | Report abuse

4th I think that a rookie salary cap would solve that problem.

Posted by: alex35332 | May 1, 2009 11:25 AM | Report abuse


What a surprise? We haven't addressed this glaring need yet in the entire offseason!

Posted by: Sports_Guru | May 1, 2009 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Jason Campbell will be getting a good view of the sky at Fed Ex Field this year!

Posted by: Sports_Guru | May 1, 2009 11:28 AM | Report abuse

um, why would any team bring in castoffs from the Lions and Bungles? I wouldn't recommend it even for a tryout for a training camp spot...

Posted by: BigE44 | May 1, 2009 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Right tackle Mike Williams, a 400-pound project who has not played in the NFL since 2005, was also signed recently but is not taking part in mini-camp, Coach Jim Zorn said, as he tries to get in shape.

By Jason La Canfora | May 1, 2009; 10:40 AM ET

This is absurd. Why don't they sign him AFTER he gets in shape?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 1, 2009 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Moe,

Current money tied up in O-Line:

Chris Samuels 6,978 mil
Randy Thomas 4,951 mil
Casey Rabach 3,650 mil
John Jansen 3,413 mil
Derrick Dockery 3,200 mil
Chad Rinehart and Hyer are in the 400,00 rainge.

Thats almost 22 mil in this years cap on O-Line, I would not say they are being cheap. They have a few very bad contracts or Jansen would already be gone.

Posted by: Flounder21 | May 1, 2009 11:32 AM | Report abuse

This offseason must have been like second Christmas for Greg Blache.

They sign Albert, draft Orakpo. They even spent the 3rd round pick on a DB. And picked up a couple reserve LBs.

That makes up for the loss of Springs, wouldn't you say?

Posted by Sampson 151

Each year this team has a critical position or four where they just cannot afford to have someone go down.

Last year it was LDE, and it cost the team it's #2.

This year there are several. In ascending order, I see them as:

4. ORT: Assuming Jansen comes all the way back, or Heyer plays well, or Williams loses half a person, there will be a starter. can't assume all three will happen.

3. RB Portis is backed up by career underachiever LaDell Betts.

2. SAM Linebacker. Yeah, sure lots of guys will be tried there. One may actually get the job and perform well. But the drop off will be significant beyond that.

1.CB Assuming Hall wasn't just playing for a contract, and Rogers isn't in a snit, there's two good starters. Then a big drop off to the fading Smoot, the unproven injury prone Barnes and, OMG, Tryon.

Posted by: TheCork | May 1, 2009 11:32 AM | Report abuse

O-Line Fail

Fail.org

Posted by: DikShuttle | May 1, 2009 11:33 AM | Report abuse

te, sign him now, so that when he gets in shape he's already under contract. this is extremely low risk, high reward. Good move on their part. They risk nothing in this move....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | May 1, 2009 11:33 AM | Report abuse

From what I understand, Mike Williams is doing workouts and already at the playing weight he was in coming out of college.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | May 1, 2009 11:33 AM | Report abuse

TE,

Who cares they signed for a vet min.

Posted by: Flounder21 | May 1, 2009 11:33 AM | Report abuse

I don't have the numbers in front of me, but this team does have big money tied up in the O-line. Of the starters, I think Rabach has the cheapest deal. Until they can get Jansen off the books next year, it would be hard to put more big-money resources into the line. If Heyer doesn't impress this year, I think next year is the year to go for right tackle in the first round.

Posted by: PatM1 | May 1, 2009 11:34 AM | Report abuse


Perhaps some intrepid reporter with access to redskins' FO types should ask why the team tries to get by on the cheap when it comes to offensive linemen.

Poster by: Mistamoe

Let me take that one. Because they don't know football.

Posted by: TheCork | May 1, 2009 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Each year this team has a critical position or four where they just cannot afford to have someone go down.

Posted by: TheCork | May 1, 2009 11:32 AM |

Are the Redskins the only team in the league that this applies to?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 1, 2009 11:35 AM | Report abuse

The O-Line is in no worse shape then it was yesterday, so why all the new crying?

Posted by: Flounder21 | May 1, 2009 11:35 AM | Report abuse

TE,

The anwser is no all teams face the same issues when it comes to injuries.

Posted by: Flounder21 | May 1, 2009 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Even better, thanks for posting the numbers, Flounder.

Posted by: PatM1 | May 1, 2009 11:37 AM | Report abuse

TE,

Who cares they signed for a vet min.

Posted by: Flounder21 | May 1, 2009 11:33 AM

So? What difference does it make if they're only paying him a ham po- boy? He takes up a roster spot and can't even participate in minicamp.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 1, 2009 11:37 AM | Report abuse

"Are the Redskins the only team in the league that this applies to?


Posted by: talent_evaluator "

You're forgetting that the NFL is made up of The Redskins and 31 All-Star teams.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | May 1, 2009 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Right tackle Mike Williams, a 400-pound project who has not played in the NFL since 2005, was also signed recently but is not taking part in mini-camp, Coach Jim Zorn said, as he tries to get in shape.

By Jason La Canfora | May 1, 2009; 10:40 AM ET

This is absurd. Why don't they sign him AFTER he gets in shape?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 1, 2009 11:29 AM


t_e, I think in the event that the 'Mike Willams Project' fails then to cut him wouldn't be a big deal.

He's hyped camp fodder given the fact that he was drafted in the top five a few years back.

Posted by: RedDMV | May 1, 2009 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Theer is a slim to none chance none of these dudes make the roster.

Talking about Cast-Offed Tackles = Marcus Mason Fandom

Neither is likely to make the team.

(Though I think this WILL be the year MM knocks off the Rock or Betts)

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 1, 2009 11:38 AM | Report abuse

flound, no kidding, to me the approach of bringing guys in to see if they can play, is due dilligence...why wouldn't you bring these guys in?? The reward could FAR, FAR out weigh the risk.

They suck, you just cut them.

The light finally has gone on for them, then you get them on the cheap.

Whats the problem??

Posted by: BeantownGreg | May 1, 2009 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Actually, those look like salary numbers, not cap hit numbers. I'm sure Jansen and Dock have much bigger hits than that.

Posted by: PatM1 | May 1, 2009 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Redskins.com has a list of all of the invited players to the mini-camp--

Posted by: BigE44 | May 1, 2009 11:40 AM | Report abuse

pat,

Thats there current cap hit if they were released, that number would jump on all of them.

Posted by: Flounder21 | May 1, 2009 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Bums, they're all bums. There normally is a reason players bounce around from team to team (especially teams that arent good to begin with) and quickly being released or waived. because they're bums.

Posted by: erleach | May 1, 2009 11:44 AM | Report abuse

It's not like the Skins are the only team bringing in a bunch of guys to maybe fine 1 or 2 that can play. This happens all over the league. I know most of you think everything they do is stupid but this is very common.

Posted by: Flounder21 | May 1, 2009 11:45 AM | Report abuse

t_e, I think in the event that the 'Mike Willams Project' fails then to cut him wouldn't be a big deal.

He's hyped camp fodder given the fact that he was drafted in the top five a few years back.

Posted by: RedDMV | May 1, 2009 11:38 AM |

I guess I see it the other way. It wouldn't be a big deal to put someone on the roster now who can participate and, if Mike Williams rounds into shape, sign me then. There's a reason he's been out of football since 2005 -- he never played that well to begin with.

But I agree with others that tying up one roster spot on this load isn't that big of a risk to the Redskins -- about the same as the roster spot we wasted last year on the DE we traded for.

I wish we had that pick back. We could have stolen another TE in the seventh round.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 1, 2009 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Just to clarify, Williams isn't taking up a roster spot at this point. He's just one of 120 or so guys trying to make the team. The good thing is that he is "signed"...if he loses weight and shows that he is indded a player, the Skins have the rights to him.

If he makes the 53 man roster and still can't play because he's losing weight, you have a definite gripe, but for now it's only a win-win....

Posted by: dlhaze1 | May 1, 2009 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Bums, they're all bums. There normally is a reason players bounce around from team to team (especially teams that arent good to begin with) and quickly being released or waived. because they're bums.

Posted by: erleach | May 1, 2009 11:44 AM |

Man, you know nothing. Haven't you ever heard of Leigh Torrence? Marcus Mason? One team's bum is another team's star!

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 1, 2009 11:50 AM | Report abuse

dl,

You are correct I think we have a while before we have to get down to 53.

Posted by: Flounder21 | May 1, 2009 11:51 AM | Report abuse

It's not like the Skins are the only team bringing in a bunch of guys to maybe fine 1 or 2 that can play. This happens all over the league. I know most of you think everything they do is stupid but this is very common.

Posted by: Flounder21 | May 1, 2009 11:45 AM | Report abuse

I realize every team does this and if any of them are lucky they might be considered to get a roster spot for a preseason game. im just talking trash bout em!

Posted by: erleach | May 1, 2009 11:51 AM | Report abuse

flound

'...I would not say they are being cheap...'


Literally, you're right.

Figuratively, though, there's a whole other side to the game.

Again: if Vinny tells redskins.com that they felt the draft's linemen prospects weren't all that, how do they justify giving a look at guys other teams have let go of or 'kicked to the curb'?

Wouldn't it make more since to draft a younger guy and 'train him up'?

And as you've listed, the team has spent chunks of cash on it's linemen.

But because of the way they do it, they are like a guy who keeps sinking money into a car that might breakdown on him at any time.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 1, 2009 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Just to clarify, Williams isn't taking up a roster spot at this point.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | May 1, 2009 11:49 AM

Wrong. He's on the Redskins roster, #71. He's made the team. Yeah, he can be cut before the start of the season, but he really is taking up a roster spot.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 1, 2009 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Right tackle Mike Williams, a 400-pound project who has not played in the NFL since 2005, was also signed recently but is not taking part in mini-camp, Coach Jim Zorn said, as he tries to get in shape.

By Jason La Canfora | May 1, 2009; 10:40 AM ET

This is absurd. Why don't they sign him AFTER he gets in shape?

Posted by: talent_evaluator |

Actually, Mike Williams looked good in the picture I saw of him. Although he is a big guy - he looked tight not flabby.

Posted by: Lisa_R | May 1, 2009 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Actually, Mike Williams looked good in the picture I saw of him. Although he is a big guy - he looked tight not flabby.

Posted by: Lisa_R | May 1, 2009 11:54 AM

So, why isn't he taking part in mini-camp?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 1, 2009 11:56 AM | Report abuse

I like us picking up Hackett - ive been pimping him at vet min for a while. big guy, young, knows the west coast.

Posted by: Rypien11 | May 1, 2009 11:57 AM | Report abuse

"Wrong. He's on the Redskins roster, #71. He's made the team. Yeah, he can be cut before the start of the season, but he really is taking up a roster spot.

Posted by: talent_evaluator "


It's impressive that he's not taking up two roster spots.


BUMDUMCHISH

Posted by: TheTruth11 | May 1, 2009 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Lisa,
When and where is that pic? Can you URL it?

Posted by: alex35332 | May 1, 2009 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Wrong. He's on the Redskins roster, #71. He's made the team. Yeah, he can be cut before the start of the season, but he really is taking up a roster spot.
Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 1, 2009 11:52 AM

Semantics, TE, semantics. My point is, there is not a limit to how many guys they can bring in to camp right now (I think….). It doesn’t matter if he is “taking up” roster spot #71 or roster spot #150. They didn’t give him a signing bonus, so the only cap damage is his weekly game-check if he makes the team……if they didn’t sign him now, they could lose him to another team if he shows promise….would you rather that happen?

Posted by: dlhaze1 | May 1, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Man, you know nothing. Haven't you ever heard of Leigh Torrence? Marcus Mason? One team's bum is another team's star!

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 1, 2009 11:50 AM | Report abuse

please, lets not get started on the Leigh Torrence topic. we all know how that thread ends. ha ha. And im stoked, as many fans are that Mason is back.

Posted by: erleach | May 1, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Jansen's contract was unbelievable especially since he signed it coming off and awful season. What was Carolina thinking signing Delhome to so much money?

Posted by: fj8152001 | May 1, 2009 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Don't worry about the swine flu folks. Don't worry about the dwindling economy. Don't worry about your 401K, don't worry about social security. Everything is going to be okay.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/ncaa/05/01/bcs.congress.ap/index.html


"Congress examining fairness, financing of BCS system

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The coordinator of the Bowl Championship Series told Congress Friday that a switch to a playoff system -- favored by fans, President Barack Obama and some lawmakers -- would threaten the existence of celebrated bowl games.

Sponsorships and TV revenue that now go to bowl games would instead be spent on playoff games, "meaning that it will be very difficult for any bowl, including the current BCS bowls, which are among the oldest and most established in the game's history, to survive," said BCS coordinator John Swofford in prepared testimony. "Certainly the twenty-nine games that are not part of the BCS would be in peril."


I can't believe these clowns get paid for doing stuff like this. Since when does Congress get involved with stuff being FAIR or not. This nation is 1) turning into a bunch of pansies and 2) I don't have a number two.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | May 1, 2009 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Picture of Mike Williams recently taken :

http://blog.redskins.com/2009/04/30/thursday-april-30-redskins-glamour-shots/


the 5th picture posted

Posted by: TheTruth11 | May 1, 2009 12:06 PM | Report abuse

There are some boys that love to eat their beef.

Posted by: alex35332 | May 1, 2009 12:07 PM | Report abuse

beep

Posted by: alex35332 | May 1, 2009 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Carolina is smart. With Delhomme signed they dont have to worry about the lame duck qb situation like we do. That way their qb can focus on his job and not his contract. There is a good chance he wont be there next year. He is 34, there is no way he makes it past year two on the contract.

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | May 1, 2009 12:08 PM | Report abuse

With all these non roster invitees right now, has anyone seen if B. Lloyd has been invited anywhere? Oddly enough, his web page stopped being updated back in December & his myspace in January.

Posted by: will_ga | May 1, 2009 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Truth, the thing I don’t understand is why they aren’t considering both…..they can choose 16 teams for a playoff series where the NCAA gets all the money, and still have another 20-25 bowl games…..currently, 26 out of the 29 bowl games are completely frikkin meaningless anyway….it’s not like they would lose any veiwership, unless it was at the same time as a playoff game……

Having gone to a 1-AA school, and still go to all home games (including playoffs), college playoff games are AWESOME……way better than a lame-o meaningless bowl game.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | May 1, 2009 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Bold prediction. Devin Thomas, Malcolm Kelly, and DJ Hackett combine for 32 games played this season, 1100 yards, and 10 TDs. Moss stays healthy and goes for 1230 yards and 7 TDs, Cooley goes for 690 yards and 6 TDs, ARE goes for 550 yards and 2 TDs, Davis goes for 300 and 4 TDs. Portis, Betts, Sellers, Yoder, and Marcus Mason combine for 400 yards and 4 TDs.

Jason Campbell throws for roughly 4,250 yards, 33 TDs, and 10 INTs.

Portis goes for 1235 yards and 10 TDs rushing. Betts goes for 390 yards and 2 TDs. Marcus Mason goes for 190 yards and 2 TDs. Sellers goes for 48 yards and 1 TD.

We end up with the #2 offense league-wide, #3 in scoring.

Albert Haynesworth, Brian Orakpo, and Andre Carter combine for 35 sacks, Deangelo Hall gets 5 INTs, Carlos Rogers gets 5 INTs, Laron Landry gets 6 INTs and 2 sacks, Chris Horton gets 1 INT and 3 sacks, Cornelius Griffin, Kedrick Golston, Anthony Montgomery, Lorenzo Alexander, and Chris Wilson combine for 10 sacks. Our defense ends up ranked #1 in yards, #1 points allowed, #1 in turnovers.

Jim Zorn wins coach of the year.

Albert Haynesworth wins DPOY.

Jason Campbell wins MVP.

We don't lose for 2 years.

I will now place $5 on 10,000,000:1 odds that this happens.

Posted by: psps23 | May 1, 2009 12:21 PM | Report abuse

This is just as bad as these awful school districts that think they can find teachers on the cheap when it's great teachers, IN THE TRENCHES LIKE LINEMAN, that make a great school.
You have quite possibly one of the greatest offensive line coaches in the history of modern football, but you refuse to draft talent to let him 'coach them up' to be HOF caliber, but oops I guess that means you'd have to spend money on them when big, hulky lineman aren't sexy or flashy like running backs, receivers, or qb's.
Snyderratous ignoramus; it must be a new, mutated species.

Posted by: pdfordiii | May 1, 2009 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Carolina is smart. With Delhomme signed they dont have to worry about the lame duck qb situation like we do. That way their qb can focus on his job and not his contract. There is a good chance he wont be there next year. He is 34, there is no way he makes it past year two on the contract.

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | May 1, 2009 12:08 PM | Report abuse

I dont see Delhomme leaving the panthers. The Carolina Panthers have signed quarterback Jake Delhomme to a five-year contract extension. The deal runs through the 2014 season and clears immediate salary cap space for the team. The new contract reportedly is worth $42.5 million, including $20 million in guaranteed money.

Posted by: erleach | May 1, 2009 12:35 PM | Report abuse

thecork: "Each year this team has a critical position or four where they just cannot afford to have someone go down.
Last year it was LDE, and it cost the team it's #2.This year there are several."

Well, I aree in principle, yet...

First, all (or nearly all) NFL teams have several positions where they're dangerously thin -- either because they lack talent, or the talent is aging or injury-prone.

Second, maybe they should have been worried about LDE last year, but they weren't. The Daniels injury caught them by surprise, but Evans stepped in and played reasonably well all year. The trade for Taylor was made in the wake of Daniels' injury, but Taylor's a completely different player -- a pass rusher. When they signed him, they were looking to bolster the rush, not help against the run.

Third, I notice you've got Smoot and Betts down as worthless. I disagree.

No, the position I'd worry about if I was Blache would be LB.

Posted by: Samson151 | May 1, 2009 12:45 PM | Report abuse

O Line will obviously be this years downfall. Portis won't have a good year and everyone will start saying his career is done. RB's have a short career. Campbell sucks and holds onto the ball too long. When it all comes down to it, they both play behind a terrible offensive line. I can hear it now.

Games are won in the trenches. Do the Hogs ring a bell. Look at the teams who had great drafts. Look at who they drafted this year and years past. Lastly, go look at their records year in and year out. Skins need a GM!!!

Posted by: oneft2dice | May 1, 2009 1:06 PM | Report abuse

What cracks me up whenever I come near this blog are some of the comments. You have the people who are tired of gripes against Snyderrato... and gripes against JLC. But then there are those who praise some if not all of the off-season moves we make (draft included). With that said, I have not read any of the comments to this particular blog today... however, if this doesn't sum up in a nutshell just how bad our front office is, I don't know what does. Of the linemen listed that we've brought in so far (with the exception of the UDFA's), I have hopes for Bridges. That's about it. Cerrato's mentioning of their not being any real help at Oline in the draft where we were picking, is the biggest crock of bs ever. Orakpo was not a need pick. He was a luxury pick. I sincerely hope he becomes a monster with the Skins... but we NEEDED o-linemen. As in the plural form of the word. As in more than one. Late 1st round on into the 2nd, you can find a potential starter this year if not a heavy contributor to the line this year and in the immediate future. Instead we draft like madmen bring in somebody elses players (which we do all day everyday for the last 10 years), for our NEED positions... give Bugel some tape, ace bandages and staples, and ask him to work miracles. EVERY YEAR. Come on maaan, our FO is so beyond laughable. The Skins don't need a GM, we need a new owner. Because Snyder will forever hire a puppet, to do what HE ultimately wants done (if we were to ever get rid of Cerrato that is).

Posted by: LIKWID | May 1, 2009 1:31 PM | Report abuse

...that means we should have traded the #13 pick for a late first and whatever else we could have gotten... or multiple 2's and a 3 or 3's. Whatever we could have gotten. Then again, had we done that, we would have found some way to add another TE and wr or two. INSANITY.

Posted by: LIKWID | May 1, 2009 1:34 PM | Report abuse

"I dont see Delhomme leaving the panthers. The Carolina Panthers have signed quarterback Jake Delhomme to a five-year contract extension. The deal runs through the 2014 season and clears immediate salary cap space for the team. The new contract reportedly is worth $42.5 million, including $20 million in guaranteed money.Posted by: erleach"

Which is odd because he didn't have a particularly performance.

Here's a comparision with the much-abused Jason Campbell, both over 16 games:

DELHOMME, age 34: 246 of 414 (59.4%) for 3288 yards (7.9 avg), wth 15 TDs and 12 INTs, 3 lost fumbles and a measly 21 yards rushing. He got sacked 20 times, which ain't awful.

CAMPBELL, age 27: 315 of 506 (62.3%) for 3245 yards (6.4 avg), 13 TDs (but you already knew that) and 6 interceptions. Jason did take 38 sacks. But he also ran for 258 yards and lost just one fumble.

So outside of that yard and a half difference in average gain per pass, and the sacks, and the gap in rushing yardage, there's not a whole lot of difference between the two QBs.

So why did Delhomme get a big contract while Jason has to fight for his job?

Because Carolina finished 12 and 4 before getting smacked around by Arizona in the playoffs. Whereas the Skins finished 8-8 and didn't go.

Posted by: Samson151 | May 1, 2009 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Right tackle Mike Williams, a 400-pound project who has not played in the NFL since 2005, was also signed recently but is not taking part in mini-camp, Coach Jim Zorn said, as he tries to get in shape.

By Jason La Canfora | May 1, 2009; 10:40 AM ET

This is absurd. Why don't they sign him AFTER he gets in shape?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 1, 2009 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Because the fatter he is, the less they pay per pound. As any Costco shopper will tell you, it's all about buying in bulk.

Posted by: JohnnyRyde | May 1, 2009 2:00 PM | Report abuse

JLC,

Mike Williams is taking part in the mini-camp and by many formar redskins players, he looks very good.

Posted by: capitolteacher | May 1, 2009 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Wrong. He's on the Redskins roster, #71. He's made the team. Yeah, he can be cut before the start of the season, but he really is taking up a roster spot.

Posted by: talent_evaluator |

It's mini-camp. THERE IS NO ROSTER. The ROSTER is set at the END of TRAINING CAMP. With that being said, what other no-name cast off would you have in his place?

Posted by: tripz | May 1, 2009 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Ladell Betts showed he can run when CP went down, I'm comfortable with him when he gets significant reps. And as for CP not being a break away guy (never mind we schemed him into that profile), as long as he moves the chains so be it. Could we use an open field guy back there? Sure, but comparatively RB isn't the issue.

One upside to waiting until camp, except for Dockery, to address OL or the entire offense for that matter is continuity in Zorn's system for year 2.

Still, I can't believe we are going into this season with just one personnel change on offense. Bottom line, if Thomas doesn't step up and we can't figure out how to delay Campbell getting put on his ass we're looking at having to hold opponents to under 20 points to even have a chance at winning.

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | May 1, 2009 3:52 PM | Report abuse

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