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Skins by the Numbers

The Redskins rank 13th in the NFL in total offense - second in rushing yards per attempt and 22nd in passing yards per play. They need to become more balanced and they know it, but that's been easier said than done over the years.

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Most troubling is the fact that the team has slipped to 28th in points per game. The Redskins are 25th in red zone offense (15 TDs in 32 attempts) and are converting 36.4 percent of their third downs (the league average is 39.4).

Jason Campbell ranks 11th in the NFL with a 90.3 passer rating, while Clinton Portis remains second in the NFL with 1,063 rushing yards (his average of 4.9 per carry is the same as that of Adrian Peterson, who is first in the league with 1,100 rushing yards. Santana Moss ranks 11th in the NFL with 701 receiving yards.

Washington remains fourth in total defense - a testament to the coaches and players, particularly when you consider how dominant they were when Sean Taylor was patrolling the backfield. The Skins are fifth against the run and 10th against the pass. The only other teams ranked in the top 10 in both defensive categories are Pittsburgh, Baltimore and the Giants.

By Jason La Canfora  |  November 19, 2008; 2:01 PM ET
 
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Comments

What about Sean "I Will definetly play" Springs?

That loser should be dropped from the team asap..he is not worth 8 mil per year! give me a break!

Posted by: jimboy435 | November 19, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Long live the Reaper!

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | November 19, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

A healthy CP can take back the lead in the leading RB

Posted by: alex35332 | November 19, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Why can't Devin Thomas run a post route on every play and once in a while they bomb it to him.

Maybe he'll even draw a DEF Pass Interference as a change....

Posted by: HustlerofCulture | November 19, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

That loser should be dropped from the team asap..he is not worth 8 mil per year! give me a break!

Posted by: jimboy435 | November 19, 2008 2:23 PM

Why stop there? Let's just drop all of them who get injured. Guys who have to take time to recover from an injury are just not worth having on the Redskins.

Remember when Moss was injured? We should have cut him. And when CP was injured? We should have cut him. Same with Jason Campbell and Carlos Rogers.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 19, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Here's what's wrong with the offense - predictability. The only bomb to Santana in the Cowboys game was almost completed because Dallas was not expecting us to throw it down the field on first down. Throw when down and yardage call for a run and run when down and yardage call for a pass. And oh, by the way, where has Chad Rinehart been, another of Cerrato's super productive draft picks?

Posted by: getitritegov | November 19, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

No question Alex. Once CP is back close to 100 % he will take over again

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | November 19, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

I think the real issue with the passing game is that Zorn is too perfectionist. he doesnt want to just take a deep shot, if it works or not. he doesnt want to waste the down.

Even if it means it may open up the defense. He has preached to Jason time and time again to only take it if it is there. So Jason follows instruction.

What he must realize is that pedicability and the fact they can see with a 96% certainty, the pass wont be a deep one.

But if JC has the time, he will pick out players deeper down field.

I care less about 60 yard bombs, i want over a ten yd avg per catch. That shows balance between dumpoffs and screens vs deep ins, outs and gos.

Posted by: Zeebs | November 19, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps the Snyderman need to assess the roles of two players: Randle El and James Thrash. Neither is a threat opposite Moss, and thus, make the Skins easy to defense. Given the poor punt returns and occasional catch across the middle, Randle El and Thrash are candidates for June '09 cuts. Thrash is great on special teams, but given the Skins thin linebacker corps, wouldn't a sane GM want that slot open for
someone who can spell Rocky Mac? And Randle El just hasn't delivered as a free agent pick up. These guys along with Jansen are prime salary cap cut victims.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 19, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

And oh, by the way, where has Chad Rinehart been, another of Cerrato's super productive draft picks?

Posted by: getitritegov | November 19, 2008 2:37 PM

Sitting on the bench, waiting for Zorn to trust him? Playing the drum in the Redskins marching band? Selling beer in the upper level concession stand?

Where should he be? How many third round guards are starting in the league now?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 19, 2008 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Cindy - Betts is ok?

Monty expected to be out again?

Posted by: Rypien11 | November 19, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Play by Play Announcer...."1st and 10 from the 26. Portis right pick up of 5 on the play and let's go down to (fill in name here). he's on the sideline with a report.

(Fillin name): Well, Shawn Springs gave it a go..but he tweaked his calf again. Redskins training staff says it is highly doubtful for his return....back to you"


OVER / UNDER BET !!!
This exchange will take place at 5:17 of the 2nd qtr....

OVER/UNDER??????

Posted by: cej75024 | November 19, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

I want a breakdown of the DT's in the boys game. I wish PGH would get on it.

Fletcher was no where in the 4th b/c the dal oline was gobbling him up.

DT's need to keep him clean.

Gonna be a hard choice between OL and DT for the first pick.

Posted by: Zeebs | November 19, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

geez Talent, you ask, I repost:

ZEKE'S UNIQUE PERSPECTIVES, as always, brought to you by Yahoo!

A draining loss on Sunday night set off new alarm bells for our team. Of particular concern, for the second straight week, we scored zero points in the 2nd half and the o-line was badly beaten on a regular basis. Obviously these two things are related. I've commented on the limited success of 2nd round WRs before, so now I turn my attention to one guy.

Its time to look at 3rd round o-lineman. In other words, what are the odds like for Chad Reinhart?

I looked at all G and OTs picked in the 3rd round between 2005-2007. I measure success in 3 grades. Starters, backups and not in the league.

Of the 105 players picked, only 5 were guards (and no centers). Two never made it past their first season 1 is not currently on any roster. Jason Spitz starts for GB and Richie Incognito, who we all remember from the StL game, also starts.

There were 10 offensive tackles picked, 4 currently start. Nick Kaczur for NE. Eric Winston starts for Houston and Marshall Yanda was starting for Baltimore before going on IR. Ryan Harris starts for Denver.

Rashad Butler, Trai Essex and Adam Snyder are backups. Paul McQuistan had occasional starts for the Raiders and is on IR.

The other two 2 are out of the league

None of the 15 has made a Pro Bowl -- but only 1 of the 105 drafted players in round 3 between 2005-2007 has made it (Frank Gore).

So there it is. 15 OL drafted in round 3. All now in at least their second year in the league. 6 starters, 4 backups and 5 not playing.

So what does that mean for Chad Reinhart? The odds are roughly evenly split among 3 possibilities: starter, backup and never does anything.

Looking at round 1 and 2 picks in the same years, the OL results are much better. 28 picks, 4 have gone to the Pro Bowl. Only a handful haven't become starters.

What this says: If the Skins are serious about bringing youth into the line via the draft, they'll need to pick 15 guys to get 5, unless they start going after guys in top rounds

What has management done? They have only picked 4 OL in the last 6 drafts, 2 in round 3, one in round 6 and one i round 7. Other than Reinhart, the two lower picks are out of the league and Dockery is starting for Buffalo. Clearly, they have not made a serious attempt to bring young talent onto the o-line.

And that is ZEKE'S UNIQUE PERSPECTIVES for this week, as always, brought to you by Yahoo!

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 19, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

wouldn't a sane GM want that slot open for
someone who can spell Rocky Mac?

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 19, 2008 2:46 PM

I bet three-quarters of the guys on the roster can spell Rocky Mac. You don't need to have a high Wonderlic score to spell that. Now I bet hardly anyone on the roster can spell Kevin Kaesviharn unless they are looking at the back of his jersey.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 19, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

good stuff zce

Posted by: Zeebs | November 19, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

zeeb, seems like from some sites that this might be a deep class at OT. I believe there are a number of huge OT's coming out this year, Loadhold, Duke Robinson, cat from Virginia. Might be better to go OT in the first, LB in the third, and DT in free agency, depending on who is available.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | November 19, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

And oh, by the way, where has Chad Rinehart been, another of Cerrato's super productive draft picks?

Posted by: getitritegov | November 19, 2008 2:37 PM

GETRITE! Listen up! Zeke has answered your question for you:

"The odds are roughly evenly split among 3 possibilities: starter, backup and never does anything."

If we had drafted him in the 1st round, odds would be better for starter. But, if we'd waited until the seventh round, odds would be terrible. Actually, if we'd waited until the seventh round, Cincinnati would have picked him in the sixth.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 19, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Zeebs | November 19, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

RIP #21


:(

Posted by: TheTruth11 | November 19, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

CHECK OUT 2010, BY TEAM AND LOOK AT THE SKINS. WE MAY HAVE TO HOLD ON TO SOME OLDER GUYS SO WE DONT HAVE TO PAY THEM

Posted by: Zeebs | November 19, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Upon further review ...

I had this nagging feeling that our defense, which gave up 14 points, wasn't really as good as that. So I went back and looked at how we stopped them ... and its not as encouraging as the 14 points suggests

They had 9 possessions, two ended in TDs. Two ended because of unforced penalties. One ended because the game ended. None of are defensive stops.

Two drives ended because the Skins forced them out on downs. Two ended in INTs. These 4 are defensive stops.

In reality, the Skins only stopped them 4 times out of 9. They stopped themselves with penalties twice and the other 3 times, we didn't stop them at all.

Our defense actually stopped them less than 1/2 of the time. It wasn't bad defense, but its also not as good as the score suggested.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 19, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse

zce, now do a field position review of where those drives started. that would summarize it all very well i think>

Posted by: Zeebs | November 19, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Our defense actually stopped them less than 1/2 of the time. It wasn't bad defense, but its also not as good as the score suggested.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 19, 2008 3:08 PM

This is kinda shakey. You're assuming that we wouldn't have stopped them if the game hadn't ended and you're assuming that we wouldn't have stopped them if they didn't stop themselves with the penalties.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 19, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

T_E, I'm sure you're being a sarcastic in that comment about Reinhart slipping to round 6. But there is a solid point underlying it. My analysis assumes (Felix Unger's opinion of that word aside) that the people that draft have a reasonably consistent way of measuring talent.

Meaning Reinhart wasn't a 3rd round talent to just one team -- and not worth drafting to the rest.

I'm sure there is some deviation, but I suspect not a lot. I doubt Reinhart would have been around in round 5 or 6 if the Skins hadn't pulled the trigger when they did.

I think there are special cases where the talent is there, but there is a major risk factor (injuries, legal issues, etc) -- but I think those are a small percentage.

Of course, the beauty of the draft is that the consensus is so often wrong. Joe Montana went in round 3, Brady in round 6 and no one thought London Fletcher was even worth a pick.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 19, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Of course, the beauty of the draft is that the consensus is so often wrong. Joe Montana went in round 3, Brady in round 6 and no one thought London Fletcher was even worth a pick

I'd also like to add that no one thought Leigh Torrence, Antonio Pierce, nor Marcus Mason were worth picks either.

Why did we give up on them......

Posted by: BeantownGreg | November 19, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

beep

Posted by: BeantownGreg | November 19, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Of course, the beauty of the draft is that the consensus is so often wrong. Joe Montana went in round 3, Brady in round 6 and no one thought London Fletcher was even worth a pick.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 19, 2008 3:19 PM

I would have said "the consensus is so often right." Brady and Montana are interesting because they're exceptions.

And speaking of the consensus being right, consider Denver's pick in the third round of 2005: Maurice Clarett.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 19, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

I could not agree with Mista Moe more. Randle El has been on of the least productive signings for the past two years. He can't return punts, and barely makes plays in the passing game. 5-10 yards is not a major contribution! I would rather see James Thrash as Receiver#2.

We need to draft 2 HOGS for the D line. Like two 6-6 340lb fat boys for the D line. That would help trmendously to free up our eands and linebackers to get a rush!

Posted by: AhmadGraham | November 19, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Here's what I get from those stats:

1. Throw the ball to Portis more because it seems he knows what to do with it.

2. Run more multiple wide receiver sets because that will take some heat off Santana, and then throw it to Santana because he should be ranked higher than 11th.

3. Keep the run defense on the field in passing situations and tell them the quarterback is really the running back in disguise...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 19, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

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