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Redskins by the Numbers

Well, the offense is now ranked 20th in the NFL and 23rd in yards per play. The Skins are eighth in rushing and 23rd in passing. They are 26th in third-down efficiency and they remain last in field-goal percentage.

Jason Campbell remains first in the NFL in interception percentage. He's 17th in passer rating (84.3), tucked between Brett Favre and Donovan McNabb. Clinton Portis remains third in the NFL in rushing yards despite another modest output Sunday. He also is third in the NFL with 313 carries.

The defense moved up to fourth overall in the NFL. The Skins are eighth against the run and eighth against the pass. They are fourth in the NFL in points allowed per game. They are eighth in third-down efficiency. The only categories in which the defense is not elite, really, are forcing turnovers and sacks per pass play (28th).

By Jason La Canfora  |  December 23, 2008; 9:30 AM ET
 
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...and the fans like the stud tackle from Miss State-Oher?

If he's drafted to start at right tackle, will he start on day one or will Jansen be given more time, like Pete Kendall has been this year, to prove his best days are behind in?

Let's get the rooks on the field.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 23, 2008 9:24 AM
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Andre Smith, Eugene Monroe, and Michael Oher are all most likely gone before the Redskins have a pick.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | December 23, 2008 9:37 AM | Report abuse

Truth,

Jansen will cost 3mil to stay over 6mil to cut.

Posted by: Flounder21 | December 23, 2008 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Love our D and our D coordinator. Has there been any discussion of whether or not blache will be back next year?

Posted by: Gweez | December 23, 2008 9:38 AM | Report abuse

For anyone saying we should draft a DE first, read this article about 5 times.


Not to mention the first round DE's are Jason Taylor clones who won't get it done in the NFC BEast.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | December 23, 2008 9:38 AM | Report abuse

over 6 mil in two years or one?

Posted by: TheTruth11 | December 23, 2008 9:39 AM | Report abuse

Love our D and our D coordinator. Has there been any discussion of whether or not blache will be back next year?

Posted by: Gweez | December 23, 2008 9:38 AM |

Gweez,

Good question that maybe JLC could have asked before he pissed Blache off by asking the same question about the pass rush every week.

Posted by: Flounder21 | December 23, 2008 9:39 AM | Report abuse

over 6 mil in two years or one?

Posted by: TheTruth11 | December 23, 2008 9:39 AM |

one there will be no more June 1st cuts because 2010 will be uncapped so you can not push it out.

Posted by: Flounder21 | December 23, 2008 9:40 AM | Report abuse

Truth,

This is what you need.

http://www.thewarpath.net/WarpathRedskinsCap.htm

Go to this page look at the column next to 2009 it says rfees, this is what it will cost you to release the player. The 2009 column is what it would cost to keep the player.

Posted by: Flounder21 | December 23, 2008 9:42 AM | Report abuse

Colts 1st Round picks since '01...this is depressing

2001 - WR, Reggie Wayne
2002 - DE, Dwight Freeney
2003 - TE, Dallas Clark
2004 - S, Bob Sanders
2005 - CB, Marlin Jackson (?)
2006 - RB, Joseph Addai
2007 - WR, Anthony Gonzalez
2008 - C, Mike Pollack

Posted by: forever21 | December 23, 2008 9:43 AM | Report abuse

Anyone thnk we could switch Samuels to right tackle?

His knees don't have the diesel to keep up with the blind-side pass-rushers anymore, but it could be a good way to extend his usefulness a-la-Joe Jacoby...

Posted by: p1funk | December 23, 2008 9:45 AM | Report abuse

the 2010 thing is probably going to get resolved at some point this off season I cant see some small teams letting an uncapped year come up as it would wreck them.

Posted by: alex35332 | December 23, 2008 9:45 AM | Report abuse

by comparison...Redskins since '01

2001 - WR, Rod Gardner
2002 - QB, Patrick Ramsey
2003 - none
2004 - S, Sean Taylor (RIP)
2005 - CB, Carlos Rogers
2005 - QB, Jason Campbell
2006 - none
2007 - S, LaRon Landry
2008 - none

suppose that's why Indy's made the playoffs 7 straight seasons

Posted by: forever21 | December 23, 2008 9:45 AM | Report abuse

"For anyone saying we should draft a DE first, read this article about 5 times."

Posted by: TheTruth11

And to add to that, anybody wishing to cut Washington, Springs, Griffin, and/or Taylor needs to read this post 5 more times.

These guys should only be cut if absolutely necessary (like if Jordan Gross lands in our lap).

Posted by: psps23 | December 23, 2008 9:48 AM | Report abuse

The point about Oher was that even if he was drafted by the Skins, they'd make him sit and wait.

The Skins don't put rooks on the field, no matter who they draft.

Ex: Fred Davis looks Alge Crumpler-lite and should've been in as an extra blocker, freeing Chris Cooley to run patterns.

But no: Davis sits all year, Cooley blocks, and the young guy doesn't get on the field.

Even Landry had to sit. Sean Taylor did, too.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 23, 2008 9:50 AM | Report abuse

by comparison...Redskins since '01

2001 - WR, Rod Gardner
2002 - QB, Patrick Ramsey
2003 - none
2004 - S, Sean Taylor (RIP)
2005 - CB, Carlos Rogers
2005 - QB, Jason Campbell
2006 - none
2007 - S, LaRon Landry
2008 - none

suppose that's why Indy's made the playoffs 7 straight seasons


Posted by: forever21 | December 23, 2008 9:45 AM | Report abuse

You get the sense that Indy had a long-term plan to build around Peyton Manning. Then they built their defense accordingly in increments - smallish but fast pass-rush oriented defense designed to kill teams that are having to come from behind after Peyton goes up 21 on them...

This is why we need a true-blue rebuilding project with an actual plan. Not some Gibbs-WCO mutant with pricey vets that don't fit the schemes...

Posted by: p1funk | December 23, 2008 9:51 AM | Report abuse

You guys are right no DE drafting because we are 4th in the league. Let's draft another TE.....

What does reading this article 5 times have to do with drafting a DE?

Posted by: Gweez | December 23, 2008 9:52 AM | Report abuse

OK, to start off, i am by no means a fan of what Snyder has done here, he and Cerrato have run our organization into the ground, and ripped up our previousy flexible cap situation-

Everyone complains thats we didnt draft linemen and what not instead of Kelly/Thomas/Davis but there is justification for the picks-

If you look at the draft order from last yer, from the thomas pick on, there were no O linemen selected until rhinehart, so you cant blame theme there.

Second, we basically got fred davis for fre- we were going to take thomas anyway, and we got an exra 2nd out of the trade. And from what ive seen, Davis is going to be better than cooley, he is a better leaper, faster, maybe wont break as many tackles but he will stretch the field more, hey, maybe we trade cooley for a 1st ad 2nd, veryone wants a game changing tight end and we have two.

Kelly as supposely going to be a top 10 pick befre we found out about his knees and when he gets heathy, everyone says he looks like a 1st rounder. just give it time and cerrato will get lucky, this class will be good, we just need to let them develop

Posted by: DaFunBunch | December 23, 2008 9:54 AM | Report abuse

"Even Landry had to sit. Sean Taylor did, too.

Posted by: MistaMoe"

Landry started from day 1. Sean Taylor started I believe from week 5.

Stephon Heyer started.

Chris Horton started.

Kedrick Golston started.

If the rookies can't get on the field, it's through their own faults. Don't act like this team is allergic to rookies.

Posted by: psps23 | December 23, 2008 9:56 AM | Report abuse

and to answer the ? from up top, if we get a solid tackle in he draft we will have him on the right for 2 years off the bat and then switch him with samuels like we did with jacoby to extend what w get from samuels. i like oher, he is big and athletic, good agility, perfect player for buges to coach up

Posted by: DaFunBunch | December 23, 2008 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Truth, mos def you have to include the peach white owl on that list...

'skins philosophy on playing rookies = wizards philosophy on playing rookies

they just don't do it.

Posted by: RedDMV | December 23, 2008 9:59 AM | Report abuse

"You guys are right no DE drafting because we are 4th in the league. Let's draft another TE.....

What does reading this article 5 times have to do with drafting a DE?

Posted by: Gweez"

If you've got an effective defense, a DE is not a high priority.

If you've got an effective group of WRs, WR is not a high priority.

If you've got an effective TE, TE is not a high priority.

If you have an effective kicker, a kicker is not a high priority.


If you have an offense that drops less than 11 points per game, then drafting for the offense IS a high priority.

It's called team management.

Posted by: psps23 | December 23, 2008 10:00 AM | Report abuse

The Truth has nothing to do at work today, so he's playing GM.

If we trade our 1st for a 2nd and 3rd :


2nd : Phil Loadholt, OT Oklahoma
3rd : Cedrick Docery, OG Texas
3rd : Marcus Freeman, OLB Ohio State
5th : Demonte Bolden, DT Tennessee
7th : Pierre Banks, LB Appalachian State

Bolden might be gone by the 5th, and Banks might be gone by the 7th. But I think you could flip flop the 3rd rounders really.

Truth4GM

Note : I had sweet youtube links for 4 of those guys, but it keeps getting held for approval with the links...Bolden looks interesting though

Posted by: TheTruth11 | December 23, 2008 10:05 AM | Report abuse

And to add to that, anybody wishing to cut Washington, Springs, Griffin, and/or Taylor needs to read this post 5 more times.

These guys should only be cut if absolutely necessary (like if Jordan Gross lands in our lap).

Posted by: psps23 | December 23, 2008 9:48 AM | Report abuse

We need to get younger. We had a nice showing on defense this year, but we aren't going to be able to sign players we need in order to have a nice defense in 2-3 years when our offense finally catches up, and we can make a real run at a title. We need to lock up Hall, maybe try to sign Rogers, we need to address the LB position.

Springs, Griffin, Taylor, et al. have nothing to give this team in 2-3 years. All they are doing at this point is eating up $$ and eating up PT.

This is the problem with our team - no overall plan. We tried to make a run with an expensive veteran defense while installing a new passing game with a bunch of rookies and players who'd never been in a pro West Coast offense.

Posted by: p1funk | December 23, 2008 10:09 AM | Report abuse

BS BS BS!!!

Synder ran the organization into the ground? Where f* were you in the 90's? The 2 guys most responsible for this mess are Norv Turner and John Kent Cook. It usually takes years and years to build a successful franchise. Indy stunk for a long time, until Bob Irsay -- may he rot in hell -- died. Jim took a loser, and took years in building it into a team that contended, centered around a Hall of Fame QB. For all those years of winning, how many Super Bowls have they won? The GiAnts have won more SB than Manning has during his career, haven't they?

The guy that turned the Redskins around is the guy that turned them around last time: Joe Gibbs. Since Gibbs II, they haven't stunk, they've been in most games, and have been entertaining. The really hopeful sign in my mind is that they've started to get competitive in a very tough division. Anyone here think that the GiAnts WON'T be in the SB?

I don't think this team needs to be blown up. They have to continue building: they're close, but haven't gotten there yet.

My only worry is that the offense is not explosive enough. Is this a structural thing? If so, can the Skins be consistent enough to engineer 10-15 play drives needed to score?

Why are the WR catching balls standing still, running to the sidelines, or moving back to the line of scrimmage? Why not moving upfield?

Posted by: dpc2003 | December 23, 2008 10:14 AM | Report abuse

How can you blame Norv for this mess still? how many years have passed since the last Norv guy left this team? The mess Cook and Norv made was cleaned up a while ago and a new mess replaced it.

Posted by: alex35332 | December 23, 2008 10:37 AM | Report abuse

And the 4 Redskins going to the probowel are on offense?

HAHAHAH!

Posted by: vmrg1974 | December 23, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

by comparison...Redskins since '01

2001 - WR, Rod Gardner
2002 - QB, Patrick Ramsey
2003 - none
2004 - S, Sean Taylor (RIP)
2005 - CB, Carlos Rogers
2005 - QB, Jason Campbell
2006 - none
2007 - S, LaRon Landry
2008 - none

suppose that's why Indy's made the playoffs 7 straight seasons

Posted by: forever21 | December 23, 2008 9:45 AM | Report abuse

But remember this; The Colts have had stability in their front office. It just sounds like nobody wants to give the Skins a chance to form some stability as well. Just give them a chance. I know yall will think I am Naive to think that.

Posted by: signicolls_03 | December 23, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse

what is ironic is that the Redskins are one of the teams MOST reluctant to get their younger players on the field, despite the fact this is a club that finishes with 8 or 9 wins.

If this club was a 13 win contender, you could make the argument that the starting 22 was so solid the younger guys would have to wait awhile before getting any chances.

But this team has enough holes and enough age at certain spots where by delaying making necessary changes the Redskins are only pushing off further into the future the time when this team will be ready to truly contend again.

It is a nasty cycle brought on by over-estimation of the talent on hand.

I guarantee you that Parcells or Bellichick would not come to Washington and leave all these old geezers we have on the roster for 2009.

There would be a house cleaning such as the Caps had in 2003-2004.

Posted by: leopard09 | December 23, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

what is ironic is that the Redskins are one of the teams MOST reluctant to get their younger players on the field, despite the fact this is a club that finishes with 8 or 9 wins.

If this club was a 13 win contender, you could make the argument that the starting 22 was so solid the younger guys would have to wait awhile before getting any chances.

But this team has enough holes and enough age at certain spots where by delaying making necessary changes the Redskins are only pushing off further into the future the time when this team will be ready to truly contend again.

It is a nasty cycle brought on by over-estimation of the talent on hand.

I guarantee you that Parcells or Bellichick would not come to Washington and leave all these old geezers we have on the roster for 2009.

There would be a house cleaning such as the Caps had in 2003-2004.

Posted by: leopard09 | December 23, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse


I could have swore Belichick had Junior Seau and Rodney Harrison on his 18-1 squad last year. Not to mention Mike Vrabel, Teddy Bruschi and an offensive line that averaged 30 years and up. So what are you talking about?

If anything you should make a note that these guys have been in the same system for a very long time. You would have made a better point.

Posted by: signicolls_03 | December 23, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

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