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Skins by the Numbers

We've reached that part of the season by which every team has had its bye, so from a statistical standpoint the field is level. Here's where the Skins stand (with tonight's "MNF" game, obviously, still to be played):

The Skins rank 11th in total offense (fourth in rushing yards per game and 18th in passing yards per game). They rank fourth in total defense (sixth against the run and eighth against the pass). The only other teams to be ranked in the top 10 in both rushing and passing defense are Pittsburgh (second vs. run, first vs. pass), Baltimore (first/ninth) and the Giants (seventh/second). Pretty good company.

Washington leads the NFL in fewest interceptions (two), but ranks just 24th in percentage of opponents' passes picked off. The Redskins rank 26th in sacks per pass play.

Washington stands fifth in time of possession (32:09), trailing only division leaders (this stat is, to me, far too often overlooked; there frequently is a strong correlation between how long you hold the ball and where you sit in the standings). Arizona (32:42), New England (32:59), the Giants (33:42) and Baltimore (33:56) are the only teams ahead of them.

However, the Redskins are 15th in takeaway margin, at plus-1. Their nine takeaways are tied for fewest in the NFL, with Seattle, Detroit, Houston and Denver. Not the company you want to keep.

The red zone remains an area of concern. The Skins rank 23rd in red-zone offense (14 TDs on 30 possessions), while the defense stands 23rd as well (allowing 13 TDs on 23 possessions).

Individually, there are standouts as well. Jason Campbell ranks seventh in the league with a 92.4 passer rating, and his fourth-quarter rating of 100.5 is fifth-best in the NFL. Clinton Portis stands second in the NFL with 995 rushing yards (behind Minnesota's Adrian Peterson) and Santana Moss is ninth with 672 receiving yards.

By Jason La Canfora  |  November 10, 2008; 6:02 PM ET
 
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Comments

Was a bit surprised they haven't told Hall that he is the punt returner.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 10, 2008 6:00 PM |

Hall has returned about 16 punts in four years in the league. Don't you think they FIRST ought to watch him a few times before they tell him he's the punt returner?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 10, 2008 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Hall was on Redskins Nation today and seemed very humble. Said he will play wherever they want him to play....that he will return punts if needed and come off the bench if needed. Also said he spent the weekend with Jerry Gray studying plays.

Posted by: Lisa_R | November 10, 2008 6:35 PM | Report abuse

For those regular RI bloggers, you know good and damn well D'Angelo Hall is not gonna come in here and start s**t.

This was a great pickup all the way around. To have 6 blogs on Leig Torrence was ridiculous. For God's sake, he was a nickle corner who gave up big plays. Let's not make this guy into Lester Hayes.

Posted by: rickyroge | November 10, 2008 6:45 PM | Report abuse

Give the dude a chance. The media always blow stuff up bigger than it is...just like all this blogging about Torrence. I think Zorn is right, he just needs to be in a disciplined environment that has a team first attitude and has to earn his playing time or starting status. He also realizes how he'll be perceived trying to land another huge deal if he screws this up. If anything, he'll be a model citizen this year but expect him to fall in line. Let's hope he can solve the PR issue and improve the secondary because they'll need it for the last 7 games.

Posted by: redpitbull98 | November 10, 2008 6:46 PM | Report abuse

I see the Torrence cut as being akin to cutting Joe Sala'vea a little while back. Everyone loved him-- huge team guy-- but he didn't cut it on the field. Look at us now, we've got a pretty good rotation going at DT now with Monty and Golston.

Just saying, let's look ahead...

Posted by: TDawg1 | November 10, 2008 6:55 PM | Report abuse

I couldn't agree more rickyroge. It not like he is a starter, or one of the top 3 corners. He was 5th! Let me say that once again. He was the 5th corner. Seeing how JLC pull some of you into his childish fight with the FO explains how Bush got elected twice.

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | November 10, 2008 7:02 PM | Report abuse

You're right TDawg...just another guy passing thru. Salavea is just one example...there are plenty more. Same with other DL that got staph a few years ago. Remember KiJana Carter? He was a hero for one season and gone the next. Leigh is better off actually playing for another team rather than sitting in the 5th or 6th spot here. He wasn't going to sniff much playing time. Has Tryon seen the field this year? Maybe Torrence negotiated his way out? Maybe he didn't wan to take a seat on the bench and asked to be cut? He might end up a starter in NO.

Posted by: redpitbull98 | November 10, 2008 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Good post by MrRedskin on the previous thread:

Of course Clinton Portis is going to play.

You young whippersnappers ain't been around long enough to realize that Jim Zorn not only appropriated George Allen's old-school "hip, hip, hooray," but has also adopted Allen's penchant for chicanery during Dallas week.

Let the Cowgirls think Portis may not play.

That's just what we WANT them to think!

:)

PS: All the best to Leigh Torrence. Glad he found a spot fast.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | November 10, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Couldn't agree more sir! He's clearly baned up but Zorn wasn't born yesterday and is a student of the game's history. He knows what he's doing. Agreed on Torrence too. Good guy, glad he landed on his feet so quickly.

HAIL

p.s.any post that includes "chicanery" is OK by me.

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | November 10, 2008 7:07 PM | Report abuse

However, the Redskins are 15th in takeaway margin, at plus-1. Their nine takeaways are tied for fewest in the NFL, with Seattle, Detroit, Houston and Denver. Not the company you want to keep.

By Jason La Canfora | November 10, 2008; 6:02 PM ET

No, but those teams don't protect the ball like we do. Besides, with Romo likely back in the lineup with a splint on his pinkie, we'll fix that interception total for sure.

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 10, 2008 7:12 PM | Report abuse

Very few have spoken about Sean Springs and his nagging injuries. This guys skips OTA's so he can get in shape "on his own", but ain't seen the field over a damn calf injury??? I know you need your wheels as a DB but c'mon Sean? Fred's ballin with a hip, CP is ballin, Samuels....If CP doesn't play, I know it's because he can't...as much of a diva as he is he comes to ball.

Posted by: rickyroge | November 10, 2008 7:12 PM | Report abuse

TDawg, I see the analogy as far as popular guys in the locker room, but Salavea was actually a starter for what 2-3 yrs? I like Torrence and wish him well, but as has been noted ad nauseum, he was the 5th corner. Let's move on!

Talent, totally agreed on Hall as PR- i think a lot of posters are rushing to judgement on that one. he's got a very limited track record there as TE pointed out. Let's just get him in the system first and maybe down the road he can do that. I'd not be in favor of him fielding punts in his very first game against our biggest rival in the biggest game of the yr...but I of course have as much say on the matter as any other Joe Blow on the street

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | November 10, 2008 7:14 PM | Report abuse

Zorn wasn't born yesterday and is a student of the game's history. He knows what he's doing. Agreed on Torrence too. Good guy, glad he landed on his feet so quickly.

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | November 10, 2008 7:07 PM

1) If Zorn was such a "student of the game's history", I'm sure he wouldn't have been guilty of the cardinal sin of calling the Skins the "maroon and black".

2) While I join you in wishing Torrence the best, if he "landed on his feet" while he was here, we might have won the Rams game.

Just sayin'...

PORTIS, PLEASE PLAY! WE NEED TO CRUSH DALLAS!

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 10, 2008 7:16 PM | Report abuse

And on the subject of Hall returning punts: say what you will about not having done it much in the pros, but he can't be worse than Randle El. I'd almost rather see Jon Jansen return punts over ARE. At least I know he'll RUN FORWARD!!

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 10, 2008 7:20 PM | Report abuse

Salave'a had a much larger role and did a lot more for this team then Torrence ever did. I don't understand the infatuation over this guy and the overall implications this move has on the team. Ade Jimoh was on this team longer. 4th and 5th corners are a dime a dozen and sure is expendable for a 24 yr old pro bowler.

Posted by: visionof75 | November 10, 2008 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Was a bit surprised they haven't told Hall that he is the punt returner.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 10, 2008 6:00 PM |

Hall has returned about 16 punts in four years in the league. Don't you think they FIRST ought to watch him a few times before they tell him he's the punt returner?

Posted by: talent_evaluator

Haven't seen Hall, But I have seen ARE and he isn't the guy for that job.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 10, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Where the Skins ain't so good - they are third highest in sacks allowed (thanks, Big J!) and at the bottom in sacks, interceptions, fumbles recovered and turnover margin.

Posted by: AntonChigurh | November 10, 2008 8:01 PM | Report abuse

On Monday Night, I'm rooting for a defensive struggle, where the Niners score 4 TDs and no FGs. The Cardinals need to run the ball in for their TDs, but lose the game.

Why? Because Nate has Kurt Warner, Joe Nedney and the Cards coach in FF. He trails Alex by 30+ FF points in his matchup this week ... and I trail Nate by 1/2 game in the standings. But I'm ahead in the tiebreaker ...

Go Alex

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 10, 2008 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Also, the team seems too often to come close to downing a punt inside the 5, only for the ball to barely hop over the goal line. Receiver James Thrash used to excel at that role, and lately Plackememier has applied a little too much spin or gotten not enough hang time, to let Leigh Torrence pull the ball in, and sometimes Torrence seems to be a fraction late as well. A few more of those would go a long way.

By Jason La Canfora | November 6, 2008; 7:34 AM ET

Several players said they were shocked and saddened to see Torrence go, and figured his stellar special-teams play and ability to serve as a slot corner made him safe, even with Hall arriving.

By Jason La Canfora | November 10, 2008; 4:00 PM ET

I don't understand this. On November 6, Torrence was a doofus who was a "fraction late to the ball" on special teams. Today, he's a "stellar special teams player." Whad did the do in these four days to go from doofus to stellar? Oh, right, he got cut. That will make anyone a better player, at least in Jasno's view.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 10, 2008 8:27 PM | Report abuse

No pointing out fact TE. LOL

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | November 10, 2008 8:33 PM | Report abuse

Nice white towels Arizona...

Posted by: rachel216 | November 10, 2008 8:42 PM | Report abuse

If Portis was hurt in the first quarter, then that may explain why we could hang in there against the Steelers.

Plus the other reasons...

Posted by: _Stumped_1 | November 10, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

JM220--I thought that the Torrence love was getting out of control but "stellar special teams play"? Sounds like a guy who's headed to the Pro Bowl, not a guy who can't catch up with a punt and down it inside the five yard line. If he's a stellar special teamer, then I'm a stellar blogger.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 10, 2008 8:45 PM | Report abuse

To have 6 blogs on Leigh Torrence was ridiculous.
============================================
I think you're right, sir. We demand more, at least three more!

It's only fair.
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | November 10, 2008 8:51 PM | Report abuse

Each Monday I hope we'll get a report on how Torrence remade the Saints' D and special teams. It will counterbalance the poor showing that Derrick Frost has put in for Green Bay since the 'Skins cut him and Jason railed against the injustice.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 10, 2008 9:03 PM | Report abuse

sween, damn you. Goddamn you!!! That was a kick a $ $ recipe!!! LOL at freedom toast. But but how do you steam and toast at the same time please please tell me!!! I'm waiting with baited breath

Etrod, I'm pretty sure everyone filled in "draft" the fiirst time they read it

Posted by: dealer1 | November 10, 2008 9:05 PM | Report abuse

And, by the way, speaking of punters:

Derrick Frost is number 23 in the league.
Durant Brooks is number 24 in the league.
Plackemeir is number 17.

And the man who Green Bay cut to take on Frost, Jon Ryan, is number 5 in the league. Now that's a stellar organization -- got rid of Favre for Rodgers and got rid of Ryan for Frost.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 10, 2008 9:12 PM | Report abuse

So, to bring this back to field...

Had a thought about generating more a pass rush in obvious pass situations:

Taylor and Carter are both naturally right DE's. Does anyone have a valid reason against mixing in a few sets with Carter at Right DE, and Taylor blitzing at ROLB and Evans at Left DE? I realize that Taylor is not a linebacker, but there is no way you block both of them without leaving the left singled up and the 'cowgirls right tackle is terrible in space. Add in Taylors comfort coming off the right end; I just don't see how we have any linebacker who can blitz better than Taylor.

If it works, then you can try it again, but drop Taylor into coverage and take away the TE or RB who would have committed to inside coverage and have more defenders than recievers.

I think the D is pretty solid, but something unexpected might scare Romo into a bad interception or freak Jason Garrett out; both have demonstrated a tendency to over-correct for disruptions to the game plan.

Posted by: AppleScience | November 10, 2008 9:29 PM | Report abuse

Each Monday I hope we'll get a report on how Torrence remade the Saints' D and special teams. It will counterbalance the poor showing that Derrick Frost has put in for Green Bay since the 'Skins cut him and Jason railed against the injustice.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 10, 2008 9:03 PM | Report abuse
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I think we should get a report from Torrence's mom each Monday explaining in exquisite detail how the Redskins have *temporarily* derailed Leigh's march to Canton.

P.S. Assuming we haven't been getting these reports from Mrs. Torrence (aka spizzle), already.
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | November 10, 2008 9:30 PM | Report abuse

You know what I think we really need? More Leigh Torrance coverage. This kid is getting more airtime than Nick the Kick and Frosty combined. Talking about your fourth or fifth corner is a lot like holding forth about your team's kicker or chatting with the homely girl in a bar. You need booze to do it, preferably enough booze to tranquilize a small rhinoceros.

Posted by: PDiddy | November 10, 2008 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Doesn't everybody really want to know how Leigh Torrance prefers his grilled cheese sandwiches?

Posted by: PDiddy | November 10, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse

I wonder what Leigh Torrance's favorite pizza toppings are.

Posted by: PDiddy | November 10, 2008 9:35 PM | Report abuse

I'm going to answer my own Leigh Torrance grilled cheese sandwich question.

Leigh Torrance likes his grilled cheese sandwiches BURNED.

Posted by: PDiddy | November 10, 2008 9:36 PM | Report abuse

So, you're working in a bar and you have a guy who orders four beers and a couple of shots. The bill is $29. He hands you $30 and says, "Keep the change."

Do you kick him in the nuts, give him his change back in pennies, or refuse to serve him again for the rest of the night?

What Would Leigh Torrance Do?

Posted by: PDiddy | November 10, 2008 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Why? Because Nate has Kurt Warner, Joe Nedney and the Cards coach in FF. He trails Alex by 30+ FF points in his matchup this week ... and I trail Nate by 1/2 game in the standings. But I'm ahead in the tiebreaker ...

Go Alex

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 10, 2008 8:03 PM | Report abuse

***************************

I am rooting for Nate, b/c I too, have Kurt Warner and Nedley on my fantasy team - in the OTHER RI league - going for Win #2 (against Stumped).

Posted by: suzannepdc | November 10, 2008 9:48 PM | Report abuse

Diddy - You give him the change back in change and say "you obviously need this more than me", smile politely and turn to get something for another customer, or "guest".

Posted by: suzannepdc | November 10, 2008 9:52 PM | Report abuse

so who's dos equis kinda person up here?

Posted by: dealer1 | November 10, 2008 9:53 PM | Report abuse

TWO REASONS WHY D HALL IS GOING TO FIT HERE!

1. He can catch Picks
2. He can catch Punts

He returned kicks as a Hokie. It will be a huge upgrade to ARE!!

To a previous post comparing Zornie to George Allen. Outstanding thought. Gibbs used to play the injury secret role as well.

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | November 10, 2008 9:53 PM | Report abuse

I lost cuz I started Cartwright this week and had norwood on the bench

Posted by: dealer1 | November 10, 2008 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Leigh Torrance likes his grilled cheese sandwiches BURNED.

Posted by: PDiddy | November 10, 2008 9:36 PM | Report abuse
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Mrs. Torrance isn't going to like that comment, PDiddy.

P.S. Wasn't Mrs. Torrance in The Shining?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyh4oC_HZtM
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | November 10, 2008 9:58 PM | Report abuse

Dang shawn hill just made an awesome play... All terps everywhere are proud

Posted by: dealer1 | November 10, 2008 9:58 PM | Report abuse

just imagine what the skins coverage would be like if the skins were 3-6...wapo would need to hire another jasno

Posted by: dealer1 | November 10, 2008 10:04 PM | Report abuse

An unnamed "NFL executive" revealed that Leigh Torrence is under strong consideration for a pro bowl spot as a special teamer.

Posted by: dargregmag | November 10, 2008 10:22 PM | Report abuse

Late Night Beep Beep,

believe it or don't.
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | November 10, 2008 10:34 PM | Report abuse

reposting your own post from another thread = lame.

Posted by: chinatown | November 11, 2008 1:18 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: chinatown | November 11, 2008 1:18 AM | Report abuse

"Washington leads the NFL in fewest interceptions (two), but ranks just 24th in percentage of opponents' passes picked off."

Um, the Skins have had 4 INTs, not two. Can't you even get that right?

WP editors, I'm available for Redskins blog articles and will do a MUCH better job, especially in terms of facts and how those facts are presented...give me a call.

Posted by: dzinermachine | November 11, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

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