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Skins Finally Have a Full House

Paul Tenorio reports:

For perhaps the first time all season, the Redskins had all 53 members of the active roster available for practice yesterday, Coach Jim Zorn said, though three players were limited.

Linebacker London Fletcher (foot), defensive tackle Kedric Golston (ankle) and offensive tackle Jon Jansen (knee) participated in limited roles, but afterward Zorn said he thought he would have everyone available for Sunday's season finale at San Francisco.

"This week I'm going to have a tough time deciding who can go and who can't," Zorn said. "But that's a good thing."

The biggest question marks, Golston and Jansen, said they expect to be ready to play. Jansen missed the last two games with a sprained knee, and veteran Jason Fabini started in his place. Zorn said that if Jansen were active, he would start. Kicker Shaun Suisham returned to practice yesterday after missing Wednesday's session for personal reasons.

By Cindy Boren  |  December 25, 2008; 4:45 PM ET
 
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This is the kind of draft I guess that everyone is thinking of when they mention the Patriots. Of the picks in this draft only 2 are not with the team, not starters. Note the "mix" offense and defense. Picking a guard at the #1 spot.

Patriots Draft picks for 2005:
RD PLAYER PK POS COLLEGE NOTES
1 Logan Mankins 32 G Fresno State
3a Ellis Hobbs III 84 CB Iowa State Pick aquired from Baltimore along with a 2005 sixth round choice (195 overall - WR Craig Bragg) and a 2006 third round choice in exchange for a 2005 second round choice (64 overall - T Adam Terry).
3b Nick Kaczur 100 T Toledo
4 James Sanders 133 S Fresno State
5 Ryan Claridge 170 OLB Nevada-Las Vegas
7a Matt Cassel 230 QB Southern California Pick aquired from Oakland along with a 2006 fifth round choice in exchange for a 2005 sixth round choice (175 overall - DT Anttaj Hawthorne)
7b Andy Stokes 255 TE William Penn

The closest recent draft for the Skins would be 2006 in which they were able to get 4 starters out of only 6 choices. Not bad.

2006
2. Roger McIntosh, OLB, Miami - 35th overall
5. Anthony Montgomery, DT, Minnesota - 153rd overall
6. Reed Doughty, S, North Colorado - 173rd overall
6. Kedric Golston, DT, Georgia - 196th overall
7. Kili Lefotu, OG, Arizona - 230th overall
7. Kevin Simon, ILB, Tennessee - 250th overall

Posted by: periculum | December 25, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

periculum: "This is the kind of draft I guess that everyone is thinking of when they mention the Patriots. Of the picks in this draft only 2 are not with the team, not starters. Note the "mix" offense and defense. Picking a guard at the #1 spot."

Yep, 2005 was terrific for them. Compare to 2006, when they had 10 selections (including 2 fourth-rounders), picked 11 spots higher than the year before, and emerged with 3 active players (Maroney, a TE, and the kicker). There does seem to be a feast-or-famine quality to the draft process. Maroney and Gostkowski have been solid, so would that draft qualify as a success?

And that was Pioli drafting.

The Pats sign a lot of free-agents, too. Including some late-career guys. Sometimes it works, sometimes not.

The draft -- who can predict?

Posted by: Samson151 | December 25, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

Oh wait -- they also got DT LeKevin Smith in 06. He doesn't start but he does play. So four of ten.

Posted by: Samson151 | December 25, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Cindy,

Aren't they supposed to announce the defensive player of the week today? Did JT get it?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | December 25, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Check out this article on the lack of black coaches in college football:

http://www.playersvoice.com/ncaa/same-ole-same-ole.html

Posted by: dboog | December 25, 2008 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Merry Christmas, RI Nation.

Too bad we'll be missing the playoffs this year; it's usually a good sign to get all your players healthy this time of year.

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 25, 2008 7:42 PM | Report abuse

"Oh wait -- they also got DT LeKevin Smith in 06. He doesn't start but he does play. So four of ten."

4 out of 10 is still pretty good. Averaging 40-50% particularly when they end up as starters and the final qualifier, you win and get deep into the playoffs.

Teams under Joe Gibbs/Beathard/Casserly in the past did not usually do that well draft wise but did extremely well with the undrafted free agents such as Helton.

This time around the Skins have done extremely well in the first 2 rounds in the last 4 years. Not so good in the lower rounds except in 2006.

Moss, Thomas, Hall, Springs, Fletcher, Griffin, Daniels, FA pickups. Trade wise Portis, Taylor, Kendall,?

Then there are Carter and "the wide receiver". ARE?

If as Vinnie says, they are going to build through the draft he is going to have average 40% retention at least every other year. With 50% of those becoming starters. And winning consistently.


Posted by: periculum | December 25, 2008 8:02 PM | Report abuse

Had the 'skins simply took care of the Bengals or Rams and they would be the 6th seed going in this weekend.

Had they won both, they would still need to win this game Sunday.

A season of coulda, woulda, shoulda. It could be worse, the Patriots could win eleven games and still not make the playoffs (if Baltimore and Miami win)!

Posted by: bangkokben | December 25, 2008 10:37 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins are 0-5 in "pressure" games.

All night games (Giants, Steelers, Cowboys, Ravens) and the "must win" against the Bungles.

Posted by: bangkokben | December 25, 2008 10:45 PM | Report abuse

A. Redskins are 8-7 in pressure games.
$. Had we played better, we would have won more games.
F. The defense kept us in every game.
Silent M. The offense also kept us in a lot of games. Unfortunately.
Q. The season has been fundamentally about the development of a relationship between Zorn and Campbell. I can't give them a very high grade, but they certainly eliminated D and F from the option list.
7. My preseason expectation was that we'd play meaningful games in December. I did not expect that we'd lose every one.

Posted by: daggar | December 26, 2008 12:53 AM | Report abuse

Back from the great banished beyond...

Why not Chad and Malcolm, let Devin return kickoffs?

Does Zorn have some bonus riding on 9-7 vs 8-8? All we are playing for is a draft slot. I'd rather know the talent level for the draft and free agency...

Posted by: noonefromtampa | December 26, 2008 1:37 AM | Report abuse

Jason Jones of the Titans bagged the honor, Talent.

Posted by: Cindy Boren | December 26, 2008 7:14 AM | Report abuse

Jason Jones of the Titans bagged the honor, Talent.

Posted by: Cindy Boren | December 26, 2008 7:14 AM

Thanks, Cindy. I wonder how you decide whether that was the "right" outcome?

Ah, heck, I'm a homer. Jason Taylor was robbed. Probably by ESPN and Sports Illustrated.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | December 26, 2008 8:20 AM | Report abuse

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