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Redskins Land Haynesworth

Jason Reid and Jason La Canfora report:

The Redskins and free agent defensive lineman Albert Haynesworth reached agreement on a deal early this morning that is expected to be announced late this afternoon at Redskins Park. The 27-year-old Haynesworth, the top prize in this season's free agent class, agreed to a deal worth approxiately $100 million over seven years.

The deal appear to make the former Tennessee Titan the highest-paid defensive player in the league. Minnesota Vikings defensive end Jared Allen received $32 million guaranteed as part of a six-year deal that averages $12.2 million per season.

In an interview on ESPN980 radio, Vinny Cerrato, the team's vice president for football operations, said the deal was agreed upon at around 5:30 this morning.

The signing of Haynesworth is designed to shore up a Redskins pass rush that was 28th in the league last season. Haynesworth had a career-high 8.5 sacks last season, a remarkable number for an interior lineman.


Late last night, the Redskins accomplished their primary offseason objective by agreeing to terms on a six-year contract worth up to $55 million with cornerback DeAngelo Hall before he could join the free agent market that opened today, according to NFL sources.

As for the team's interest in offensive lineman Derrick Dockery, he is not scheduled to visit Redskins Park as of now, according to a source, although he remains in play as a possible target and dialogue between the sides is expected to continue. Dallas free agent defensive end Chris Canty, who had agreed at around 2 a.m. to visit Redskins Park, will not be coming here, and has other visits scheduled. He does not appear to be in Washington's plans now.

The Redskins may have to make a roster move as well before the contracts with Hall and Haynesworth are signed and executed with the league office. Releasing veteran corner Shawn Springs has been discussed within the building throughout the offseason, according to sources, and with Hall back and limited cap space remaining, the $6 million savings from parting with Springs could become important.

The story reporting Hall's agreement with the Redskins has more details on the team's free agency planning, including efforts to free salary cap room for big signings.

Early yesterday evening, Tony Kornheiser and Michael Wilbon discussed the merits of the Redskins signing Haynesworth (it's all entertaining, but the Haynesworth discussion starts at about 1:30).

By Cindy Boren  |  February 27, 2009; 9:13 AM ET
 
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Comments

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Posted by: jpt1002 | February 27, 2009 7:06 AM | Report abuse

WELL I THINK A LIL RESTRUCTURE FOR JT BUT DONT CUT HIM HE WILL BE A BEAST AGAIN THIS YEAR WITH HAYNESWORTH DRAWING ALL THESE DOUBLE TEAMS!LOOK FOR 30 SACKS FROM THE D-LINE
CARTER 8 SACKS
JT-10 SACKS
HAYNESWORTH 8 SACKS
GHOLSTON MONTGOMERY AND GRIF-8 SACKS
DANGELO HALL 8-12 PICKS FROM HURRIED QB'S
CARLOS ROGERS 18 DROPPED PICKS LOL
AND TELL ME 100 MILL ISN'T WORTH IT FOR HAYNESWORTH

IF YOU ASK ME ITS
PRICELESS!!!

Posted by: all_this_bs | February 27, 2009 7:08 AM | Report abuse

Congratulations!

Posted by: SMACK1 | February 27, 2009 7:08 AM | Report abuse

2nd!

Hi Haters!

We got Haynesworth AND Hall signed.

What!

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 27, 2009 7:09 AM | Report abuse

Smack,

I'm sure your center is ecstatic.

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 27, 2009 7:10 AM | Report abuse

when's the victory parade????
CHAMPS OF THE OFFSEASON AGAIN!!!!!

Posted by: fnkyniedls | February 27, 2009 7:11 AM | Report abuse

DUDE WHEN IS THE LAST TIME THE REDSKINS HAD A GAME CHANGING DT!!!I AM STOKED THEN HE WILL TRAIN MONTGOMERYINTO THE NEXT BIG THING GHOLSTON STANDS TO BE A BEAST THIS YEAR PLAYIN NEXT TO HAYNESWORTH THIS GUY IS GONNA MAKE EVEREY ONE AROUND HIM THAT MUCH BETTER SO NOT 100 MILLION TO JUST HIM THINK OF IT AS GIVIN HIM 60 MILLION AND THE OTHER 10 PLAYERS ON THE DEFENSE A 4 MILLION DOLLAR BONUS!!

Posted by: all_this_bs | February 27, 2009 7:12 AM | Report abuse

I hope Snyder buys a soccer team and runs it the same way. GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAL!

Posted by: jpt1002 | February 27, 2009 7:12 AM | Report abuse

Hey J

Maybe you should read www.profootballtalk.com He had this story 2 days ago when you were telling us that we couldn't afford him. Hmmmmm

Posted by: Therub | February 27, 2009 7:13 AM | Report abuse

I THINK THE NATS COULD USE A GUY LIKE SNYDER!!!!

Posted by: all_this_bs | February 27, 2009 7:13 AM | Report abuse

You have to figure Springs is gone, but that can't be enough. So who else goes to fit this in? And is Canty still in the works?

Posted by: jyates1 | February 27, 2009 7:13 AM | Report abuse

Everyone can doubt Danny on ANYTHING they want, BUT you can't say when he wants someone he doesn't get him!

So let's watch all the hate spew out today.......

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 27, 2009 7:14 AM | Report abuse

LMAO @THE RUB

Posted by: all_this_bs | February 27, 2009 7:14 AM | Report abuse

Big risk here if this guy turns out not to have the motor running all the time. . .

we'll have to wait and see. . .

it's true the d-line, especially the interior, hasn't scared anyone for a while, but this is high stakes gambling here. . .

what's next?

Posted by: skinsfan8KaboveMSL | February 27, 2009 7:16 AM | Report abuse

I DONT KNOW HOW ANYONE COULD HATE HAVIN THE BEST DT IN THE LEAGUE THIS IS GONNA BRING EVERYONE ON THE D TO NEW HEIGHTS!!!!

Posted by: all_this_bs | February 27, 2009 7:16 AM | Report abuse

7 years, $100 million?!?!?! I just ralphed my Cheerios.

Posted by: Eze167 | February 27, 2009 7:17 AM | Report abuse

HOW IS IT HIGH STAKES GAMBLING ITS GOIN AND GETTIN THE BEST PLAYER AT HIS POSITION WHICH HAPPENS TO BE A VOID WE NEEDED TO FILL EVEN THOUGH THEY SAY IT CANT BE DONE!!

Posted by: all_this_bs | February 27, 2009 7:18 AM | Report abuse

Albert may grow to be a lazy fat slob with the redskins now that he got paid and d'angelo hall may tackle worse than Dion Sanders now that he got another fat pay check but can we for a second at least be greatful for an owner who will stop at nothing to spend ALL resources possible to put a winning team out on that feild? We all wish we could be GMs but at the end of the day we are fans and we are fans who have an ownwer willing to sell his soul for us. Hail Redskins Hail Snyder!! F" you haters!

Posted by: Twismjax | February 27, 2009 7:18 AM | Report abuse

Way to go Albert!

Posted by: DanaStubblefield | February 27, 2009 7:18 AM | Report abuse

I SECOND THAT TWIST THE MAN IS A GENIUS AND THEY SAY THERE IS A SALARY CAP IN THE NFL ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS NOT IF YOUR A REDSKINS FAN WHAT LIL SALARY CAP!

Posted by: all_this_bs | February 27, 2009 7:20 AM | Report abuse

Post 1st one to break story?

Congrats!

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 27, 2009 7:21 AM | Report abuse

OK NOW WHERE IS REDSKIN 1 AT OH THATS RIGHT THEY DONT NEED REDSKINS 1 TO FLY TO BALTIMORE JUST SEND THE LIMO TO PICK UP BROWN!!!

Posted by: all_this_bs | February 27, 2009 7:22 AM | Report abuse

I think this signing just gave me a moment of clarity...I think we as fans have to put the Redskins current front office structure in proper perspective: we should just expect the real life Redskins to be mediocre. Worst case scenario is we're right. But the real gift is for us Madden fans...who's going to be able to beat the Redskins on Madden 2010? Think about it: they constantly boost the player ratings for Redskins to levels that aren't accurate (ARE with a 90+ PR rating? Jansen a 90 overall rating? Rogers with a catch rating above 0? Carter anywhere above 80?), and the D-line with Carter, Griffin, Haynesworth, and Taylor will have no one below an 85 rating and will be unstoppable! Madden Super Bowls for everyone!

Vinny and Danny pick the players based on Madden ratings anyway, right?

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 27, 2009 7:22 AM | Report abuse

We're kings of the offseason once again!

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 27, 2009 7:23 AM | Report abuse

Wow..Haynesworth and Hall? Maybe Canty and Dockery and we were only $4 mil below the salary cap when i went to bed last night? Say what you want about Lil Danny and Cousin suck-up but they get their man! It might not be the man we need but when they want somebody they get 'em. Lets hope we didn't just sign Dana Stubblefield 2.0. or Big Daddy 2.0 or Dion Sanders 2.0 or Adam Arch 2.0 or Ade Jimoh 2.0...Wow...Go Redskins! Now get some help for the O-Line!!! Walfunk

Posted by: damn1 | February 27, 2009 7:25 AM | Report abuse

Boy you sure nailed that JLC. Perhaps you should let the facts form your opinion instead of the other way around.

OK Vinnie, get to work on the o-line.

Posted by: pwilly | February 27, 2009 7:25 AM | Report abuse

I guess that blogger guy was correct, I will remeber that next year when he makes a perdiction.

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 27, 2009 7:26 AM | Report abuse

Sweet, now I cant wait for Madden, good call bw26

Posted by: jpt1002 | February 27, 2009 7:26 AM | Report abuse

THIS JUST IN DANNY PICKS UP LEBRON JAMES IN FREE AGENCY FOR 200 MILLION HE WILL PLAY RECEIVER AND RUN NOTHIN BUT FADE ROUTES !!!!!

Posted by: all_this_bs | February 27, 2009 7:27 AM | Report abuse

I am so ticked off, pissed off right now!

Our Defense was certainly much stronger than our offense, and what do we do? We go out and LUST after the top Free Agent Haynesworth and simply can't refuse the seduction.

It's like we have a very attractive wife who is good in bed, and children at home w/ real needs but we go out and are seduced by the prostitute so we can have some silly short term thrill ride!

And we sign these guys to mega-buck deals, and we could have signed Dockery a LG and Canty a DE and guess what, folks?

What the defense lacked was a pass rushing DE and the offense desperately needed --- EXCUSE ME STILL NEEDS OL.

Vinny and Danny! Always looking for the big splash. Always looking for the woman w/ the greatest breasts, willing to risk the future of your family [team] to get what you think is the biggest thrill. It's like they are addicted to the thrill ride of having sex w/ a woman you don't know. [Addicted to the seduction of each Spring signing the biggest FA out there]

Makes me sick!
Danny and Vinny need help!

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | February 27, 2009 7:27 AM | Report abuse

Damn that is a lot of money. If he performs like he did last year this might be a really good pick up. Since we signed Hall time to show Springs the door.

Posted by: icetotalpackage | February 27, 2009 7:27 AM | Report abuse

It is hard to fathom the Redskins, who entered free agency with limited cap space, could still bring in DE Chris Canty, who agreed to visit Redskins Park around 2 am and who will land a significant deal himself. Canty will likely take another visit instead. The Redskins were also still deep in talks with guard Derrick Dockery as of 3 am, but their ability to complete that deal could be compromised by this as well.


By Cindy Boren | February 27, 2009; 6:58 AM ET

Can't keep doubting Snyder on getting what he wants. He'll prove you wrong each and everytime.......

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 27, 2009 7:28 AM | Report abuse

We are the Champions
We are the Champions
No time for losers, 'cause
We are the Champions...

of the offseason!

Posted by: Yoder-lay-hee-who | February 27, 2009 7:28 AM | Report abuse

Haynesworth = Dana Stubblefield 2.0

Posted by: myskinsr1 | February 27, 2009 7:30 AM | Report abuse

No no no, we dont need Lebron . . .we gotta get Kobe. Its all about the D

Posted by: jpt1002 | February 27, 2009 7:31 AM | Report abuse

guess JLC's "sources" didn't come through on haynesworth cuz he throughly got scooped by everyone else

Posted by: drewkinnear | February 27, 2009 7:31 AM | Report abuse

JM220 aka T.I.P. (TotalIcePackage),

He won't see all of that money. Wait to see what the 1st 3-4 years payout will be a better indicator......

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 27, 2009 7:32 AM | Report abuse

I am so ticked off, pissed off right now!

Our Defense was certainly much stronger than our offense, and what do we do? We go out and LUST after the top Free Agent Haynesworth and simply can't refuse the seduction.

It's like we have a very attractive wife who is good in bed, and children at home w/ real needs but we go out and are seduced by the prostitute so we can have some silly short term thrill ride!

And we sign these guys to mega-buck deals, and we could have signed Dockery a LG and Canty a DE and guess what, folks?

What the defense lacked was a pass rushing DE and the offense desperately needed --- EXCUSE ME STILL NEEDS OL.

Vinny and Danny! Always looking for the big splash. Always looking for the woman w/ the greatest breasts, willing to risk the future of your family [team] to get what you think is the biggest thrill. It's like they are addicted to the thrill ride of having sex w/ a woman you don't know. [Addicted to the seduction of each Spring signing the biggest FA out there]

Makes me sick!
Danny and Vinny need help!

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | February
------------------------------------------
DUDE ARE YOU JUST PLUM CRAZY!!
WE DONT NEED A DE WE HAVE CARTER AND JT WHICH B4 HAYNESWORTH MIGHT NOT HAD BEEN MUCH BUT NOW WITH HAYNESWORTH IS GONNA BE ONE OF THE TOP DE TANDEMS IN THE LEAGUE THESE GUYS ARE GONNA BEAST JUST FROM HAYNESWORTH AROUND AND DONT WORRY WE STILL HAVE MONEY TO SPEND ON OL LOOK 4 2 MORE NICE AQUISITIONS IN FREE AGENCY BROWN? DOCKERY FOR SURE AND THAT GIVES US THE ABILITYDRAFT THE BEST FOOTBALL PLAYER IN THE DRAFT AT 13 NOT NECESSARILY A NEED!

Posted by: all_this_bs | February 27, 2009 7:34 AM | Report abuse

People whining about no offensive line and offensive whoes need to chill for a little while. Just because it wasn't the FIRST thing addressed doesn't mean it will be ignored.

Dockery and draft picks would go a long way towards improving the offensive line. And hopefully another year in the system will go a long way towards improving the offense in general.

Posted by: dfbovey | February 27, 2009 7:35 AM | Report abuse

Good morning 4th. I hope all is well with you and your family. Even still that is a lot of money.

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | February 27, 2009 7:35 AM | Report abuse

OFF SEASON SUPER CHAMPS !!!!!!!!2009!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We're # 1 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We're # 1 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We're # 1 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We're # 1 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We're # 1 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We're # 1 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Danny-Boy go ask Ted Lenonis and take few lesson of how to build a professional franchise. You MORON!

Posted by: 555Mass | February 27, 2009 7:38 AM | Report abuse

Sweet, now I cant wait for Madden, good call bw26

Posted by: jpt1002 | February 27, 2009 7:26 AM

Redskins fans should never forget the Madden release date...it's the only alternate universe where this team can actually win!

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 27, 2009 7:38 AM | Report abuse

Neither AH or Hall will see all of the money they are getting, you have to see how the contracts are structured.

The O-line will be addressed they can still sign Dockery, and maybe that kid from Seattle.

They can still draft T with the 13th pick.

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 27, 2009 7:40 AM | Report abuse

I GUESS WE ARE NOT GONNA GET ANY COMPESATORY PIX IN THIS DRAFT BUMMER!!!LOL!!

Posted by: all_this_bs | February 27, 2009 7:41 AM | Report abuse

It's like we have a very attractive wife who is good in bed, and children at home w/ real needs but we go out and are seduced by the prostitute so we can have some silly short term thrill ride!

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | February 27, 2009 7:27 AM

Let me help you with the analogy: it's more like a guy who has a good wife whose only weakness is she's not so good in bed. And so this guy goes out and has an affair with a chick who sucks at life but is an amazing lay. So he's jeopardizing the ability to keep the good wife just to have that one quality fulfilled. On the face of it, it's just dumb.

It's risky enough signing a guy of questionable character like AH, but even if he's Mean Joe Greene is his prime, signing one guy to this kind of deal will likely cost you the ability to improve your team in other areas (Jason Brown, anyone?). And that's not to mention younger guys already on the roster you won't be able to resign later (i.e.- Rogers, Campbell, McIntosh).

I laugh to keep from crying...

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 27, 2009 7:46 AM | Report abuse

Wow. We won this offseason by signing TWO guys that will not perform to the level of their contracts. Just like, well take your pick from Deion ect...

I guess they want to draft more WR's....

Posted by: splitbill | February 27, 2009 7:46 AM | Report abuse

There's a late-day presser scheduled today. As for the cap, as noted financier/philosopher/football scribe Mark Maske says: Any deal can be made to work and a team can still get under the cap.

Posted by: Cindy Boren | February 27, 2009 7:47 AM | Report abuse

gotta throw this out there, I was completely wrong regarding this AH stuff. I didn't think that the team had the space to do it....I'm really shocked about this, which leads me to 2 things:

1. How much space is left?
2. What is the status of Jason Brown and this team?

Posted by: BeantownGreg | February 27, 2009 7:48 AM | Report abuse

What's the over/under on how many times these two contracts are restructured in the next 5 years?

Posted by: bigfish761 | February 27, 2009 7:49 AM | Report abuse

SERENITY NOW

Posted by: NFeKPo | February 27, 2009 7:49 AM | Report abuse

Neither AH or Hall will see all of the money they are getting, you have to see how the contracts are structured.

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 27, 2009 7:40 AM

Both of those contracts have gobs of guaranteed money ... they both will see alot of it. The subsequent restructurings just keep the current year out of the cap by turning it into a bonus. From now on, The Owner is absolutely COMMITTED to there NOT being a new CBA, or at least, that the payout limiting harshness of a salary cap shall never bonk him on the head.

Posted by: dcsween | February 27, 2009 7:49 AM | Report abuse

No way we resign McIntosh, if anything he should get cut, just cant and wont stay healthy . . .they should also cut Blades and Cartright

Posted by: jpt1002 | February 27, 2009 7:52 AM | Report abuse

I GUESS WE ARE NOT GONNA GET ANY COMPESATORY PIX IN THIS DRAFT BUMMER!!!LOL!!

Posted by: all_this_bs | February 27, 2009 7:41 AM

Yup...no Durant Brooks this year. Sorry!

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 27, 2009 7:54 AM | Report abuse

whats the status of the seattle guy?? is he still on their radar, or are they done?

I'd still like to see some OL guys brought in.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | February 27, 2009 7:57 AM | Report abuse

Not happy about spending 154 million on last season's 4th ranked Defense = Jason Campbell. Begs the question...if the defense is out on the field for such a short time (which we can assume was the goal here), does that mean our senior citizen O-line will have to be out there even longer? I sure hope Snyder and Cerrato can figure a way to still upgrade the O-line. Landing Dockery or maybe a slightly less heralded FA at guard and being able to draft and sign either J.Smith/A.Smith/Monroe/Oher at pick 13 and still be under the cap would be a real triumph.

Posted by: rgm34 | February 27, 2009 7:57 AM | Report abuse

brown,

They will be able to clear alot of cap space next year, JT's contract is done Springs contract is done if they don't cut him this year.

Psp,

Did a post yesterday they will have room to sign JC if he deserves it, Rocky should not be resigned and Rogers is iffy depending on the year he has.

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 27, 2009 7:58 AM | Report abuse

I laugh to keep from crying...

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 27, 2009 7:46 AM |
_____________________________________________

Thanks brownwood. Apparently you DO get it!
IT is sad.
It is the guy who has the good wife, but he is such a loser for being seduced for sex and the thrill of the "new woman; the new sex" that will fulfill his life.

But of course it only brings one thing.
"I can't get no satisfaction"
I simply have to go out and get more big bang knock out sex [Free Agents] rather than go serve my team [wife and kids] and get what we need [two OL and a DE].

It is worth crying for.
Danny and Vinny continue to go to the same corner each spring, looking for the woman w/ the biggest _ _ _ _ _ regardless of what she is as a person, regardless of what needs this team actually has, and regardless of how it will affect their family [team].

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | February 27, 2009 7:58 AM | Report abuse

I am still in shocked they pulled this thing off.

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | February 27, 2009 7:58 AM | Report abuse

Congratulations! These improvements should see you guys rise to oh, at least 4th in the NFC East!

I didn't realize your defense was so broken that you needed to commit $154M to fixing it.

Wow.

Posted by: Redcoat | February 27, 2009 8:00 AM | Report abuse

whats the status of the seattle guy?? is he still on their radar, or are they done?

I'd still like to see some OL guys brought in.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | February 27, 2009 7:57 AM |

Greg,

I would still say they can get Dockery and maybe that kid from Seattle, and then hopefully they will draft a T.

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 27, 2009 8:00 AM | Report abuse

Congratulations! These improvements should see you guys rise to oh, at least 4th in the NFC East!

I didn't realize your defense was so broken that you needed to commit $154M to fixing it.

Wow.

Posted by: Redcoat | February 27, 2009 8:00 AM |

Red,

As my daughter would say don't hate appreciate.

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 27, 2009 8:02 AM | Report abuse

I am so ticked off, pissed off right now!

Our Defense was certainly much stronger than our offense, and what do we do? We go out and LUST after the top Free Agent Haynesworth and simply can't refuse the seduction.

It's like we have a very attractive wife who is good in bed, and children at home w/ real needs but we go out and are seduced by the prostitute so we can have some silly short term thrill ride!

And we sign these guys to mega-buck deals, and we could have signed Dockery a LG and Canty a DE and guess what, folks?

What the defense lacked was a pass rushing DE and the offense desperately needed --- EXCUSE ME STILL NEEDS OL.

Vinny and Danny! Always looking for the big splash. Always looking for the woman w/ the greatest breasts, willing to risk the future of your family [team] to get what you think is the biggest thrill. It's like they are addicted to the thrill ride of having sex w/ a woman you don't know. [Addicted to the seduction of each Spring signing the biggest FA out there]

Makes me sick!
Danny and Vinny need help!

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | February 27, 2009 8:02 AM | Report abuse

In other news, Dan Snyder announced another round of layoffs at FedEx Field and Redskins Park -- this time involving 31 peanut vendors, a professional popcorn popper, 4 ladies whose job is to refill the condiment counters, and 237 junior assistant trainee marketing reps...

"I'll pop the popcorn myself, if I must," Snyder told the media. "And Vinny can keep the mustard and relish jars full. And as for peanuts -- hell, you people shouldn't be eating those anyway."

"It's a time of sacrifice," Snyder concluded, attempting to throw an arm around his new free agent prize and instead gripping Haynesworth's left knee. "Ticket prices will have to go up a tad. But I'm offering several new creative-financing options."

Posted by: Samson151 | February 27, 2009 8:03 AM | Report abuse

we'll still get dockery and willis just wait

Posted by: drewkinnear | February 27, 2009 8:04 AM | Report abuse

FA is just starting. Plenty of time to get some OL FAs in. We needed a huge DT to help out the DEs and hopefully AH is the answer. I still think they can get Canty (maybe cut JC) and some OL help. Let's see what unfolds before we start calling for the FO's heads.

Posted by: Curzon417 | February 27, 2009 8:04 AM | Report abuse

defense WINS championships...

HTTR

Posted by: wiz-skins07 | February 27, 2009 8:05 AM | Report abuse

Oh well. The Skins are in cap hell. What'a little bit more, right? :)

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | February 27, 2009 8:05 AM | Report abuse

Get your complaints out now. Haynesworth will be a Redskins or a long time, whether you like it or not.

Me, personally, I'm ecstatic to see Haynesworth line up next to Griffin.

Did we end up tendering Golston?

Posted by: psps23 | February 27, 2009 8:05 AM | Report abuse

ticket prices have stayed exactly the same, just paid my season ticket invoice yesterday

Posted by: drewkinnear | February 27, 2009 8:06 AM | Report abuse

curz,

You meant JT right not JC, but I agree with you, the other person who will benefit from AH is London Fletcher, O-Linemen wont be able to get to him with AH in the middle.

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 27, 2009 8:07 AM | Report abuse

One of the best defenses and one of the worst offenses in the league and we go crazy on the first day of FA by signing Albert. I hope our offense "comes around" like our FO thinks it will.

Posted by: vegasskinsfan | February 27, 2009 8:07 AM | Report abuse

Did we end up tendering Golston?

Posted by: psps23 | February 27, 2009 8:05 AM |

Yes,

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 27, 2009 8:08 AM | Report abuse

Flounder, that's correct, I meant JTaylor. Cutting him will free up the space for Canty and OL FAs.

Posted by: Curzon417 | February 27, 2009 8:09 AM | Report abuse

Why do all of you think it's over, the Skins just showed you that they can mainpulate the salary cap better then anyone.

They will sign atleast one o-Linemen if not two and they still might get Canty.

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 27, 2009 8:10 AM | Report abuse

Not hating Flounder, just not understanding.

I really don't see how this makes you guys good enough to win your division, let alone and NFC Championship, let alone a Super Bowl.

And if it doesn't accomplish that then what's the point?

Make no bones about it, Haynesworth can be a great player at times, but he can also be a lazy, fat SOB with a terrible attitude except when he's playing for a pay-day. And Hall is a corner with great hands who couldn't cover my (dead) grandma in man to man. Think Asante Samuel with a little less speed.

But I guess my central point is, your defense wasn't really the problem last year, was it?

Posted by: Redcoat | February 27, 2009 8:10 AM | Report abuse

Why do all of you think it's over, the Skins just showed you that they can mainpulate the salary cap better then anyone.

They will sign atleast one o-Linemen if not two and they still might get Canty.

Posted by: Flounder21

------

We just signed $155 million worth of contracts with, apparently, $8 million in cap space.

We have Shawn Springs just waiting to be released to free up another $6 million.

What makes anybody think free agency is done here?

Posted by: psps23 | February 27, 2009 8:12 AM | Report abuse

I argued against signing AH but now that it's done I will look at the positives.

He will help the DE's get more sacks, he will really improve the run defense. He will make LF an even better MLB.

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 27, 2009 8:13 AM | Report abuse

it was when MBIII ran all over the d line in the 2nd skins cowboys game, same with jacobs in both jints game

Posted by: drewkinnear | February 27, 2009 8:14 AM | Report abuse

i don't understand why everyone is all over canty, dude played with a pro bowl nose guard (ratliff) and pass rushing OLB (ware) i don't remember him ever terrorizing CP or JC when we play them

Posted by: drewkinnear | February 27, 2009 8:16 AM | Report abuse

"But I guess my central point is, your defense wasn't really the problem last year, was it?

Posted by: Redcoat"

It also wasn't the solution.

The only thing I would say is there really aren't any difference-makers in the mold the Redskins need on offense on the FA market (meaning young, injury-free, and either truly high-impact or relatively cheap).

The only one is Jason Brown, and I'm not convinced he's a one-man wonder. Josh Gross would have been the guy to target, but he was taken off the market a while ago.

I guess what I'm saying is if everything was equal, yes, offense needs more help. But everything's not equal. Nobody on the FA market for offense = Albert Haynesworth. And it's not even close.

This frees up the draft to be totally focused on offense, which IMO, is much stronger than the FA class this year.

Posted by: psps23 | February 27, 2009 8:17 AM | Report abuse

I would still say they can get Dockery and maybe that kid from Seattle, and then hopefully they will draft a T.

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 27, 2009 8:00 AM

What Seattle guy are you talking about? Jason Brown and Dockery are all this team needs in my opinion, and address OT in the draft. And that would be a good offseason.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 27, 2009 8:17 AM | Report abuse

I HAVE A DREAM


trade back #13 to the Lions #20 and #32


Draft Andre Smith at #20


Draft Micheal Oher at #32


SUPERBOWL???

Posted by: TheTruth11 | February 27, 2009 8:18 AM | Report abuse

i don't understand why everyone is all over canty, dude played with a pro bowl nose guard (ratliff) and pass rushing OLB (ware) i don't remember him ever terrorizing CP or JC when we play them

Posted by: drewkinnear

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Exactly what I've been trying to say for the last week. And don't forget Greg Ellis, another pro-bowl pass-rusher.

Posted by: psps23 | February 27, 2009 8:18 AM | Report abuse

WELL I THINK A LIL RESTRUCTURE FOR JT BUT DONT CUT HIM HE WILL BE A BEAST AGAIN THIS YEAR WITH HAYNESWORTH DRAWING ALL THESE DOUBLE TEAMS!LOOK FOR 30 SACKS FROM THE D-LINE
CARTER 8 SACKS
JT-10 SACKS
HAYNESWORTH 8 SACKS
GHOLSTON MONTGOMERY AND GRIF-8 SACKS
DANGELO HALL 8-12 PICKS FROM HURRIED QB'S
CARLOS ROGERS 18 DROPPED PICKS LOL
AND TELL ME 100 MILL ISN'T WORTH IT FOR HAYNESWORTH

IF YOU ASK ME ITS
PRICELESS!!!


Posted by: all_this_bs | February 27, 2009 7:08 AM | Report abuse

With the awesome defense, we will be receiving more punts! Here's another stat:

Randle-El - 345 fair catches

Posted by: RedskinJim1 | February 27, 2009 8:18 AM | Report abuse

Red,

The only thing that can be improved on Offense is the O-Line which they will do, QB, RB, TE and the WR's are set they will have to hope that Thomas and Kelly can play.

The only place to go in FA's was defense, and just because we were ranked 4th does not mean we had an over powering defense.

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 27, 2009 8:18 AM | Report abuse

and I guess this pretty much cancels out any DE/DT picks at #13 if we keep it right?

Posted by: TheTruth11 | February 27, 2009 8:19 AM | Report abuse

Ahhhh,

The second coming of Dana Stubblefield ! Danny Strikes again !

Posted by: Davo61 | February 27, 2009 8:20 AM | Report abuse

What Seattle guy are you talking about? Jason Brown and Dockery are all this team needs in my opinion, and address OT in the draft. And that would be a good offseason.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 27, 2009 8:17 AM |

Brown,

That would be fine with me but if Brown gets away that Willis kid from seattle could be a good pickup.

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 27, 2009 8:21 AM | Report abuse

Well, Snyder and his lacky did it again. They provided retirement packages for two more guys in their mid to late 20's. I aggree with the poster who called Haynesworth Stubblefield 2.0. But given the level of their "talent" and the fact that both major signings are for the defense, I am willing to raise my projection to 9-7 for 2009.

For those posters who call us "haters", how do you explain Snyder's record since he bought the team, excluding 1999 because he didn't have time to screw things up?

Posted by: pjente | February 27, 2009 8:24 AM | Report abuse

To paraphrase Gordon Gecko: "What are you, the 12th man on the deal team kid?"

Posted by: rich20ssu | February 27, 2009 8:25 AM | Report abuse

I'm still a little puzzled. Of course even an 80% Stampy upgrades the center of your D, but didn't Milton Bradley III, Blandon Jacobs and LeJohn (Yippee Ki-Yay MoFo) McClane run all over Andre Carter and Jason Taylor in those games?

Posted by: Redcoat | February 27, 2009 8:25 AM | Report abuse

Classic Snyder. Get distracted by the BIG NAME, and ignore remaining needs. They obvioulsy think they can clear enough cap space to sign him, but how much money do they really have left? They'd have been far better to spend this money on four players: a large WR, TWO guys for the O line, and then a lesser guy who'd still improve the D line. This move is all about flash and a little "boy" and his expensive toys, and not about improving the team overall.

What's the number for Caps season tickets for next season?

Posted by: wahoo2x | February 27, 2009 8:25 AM | Report abuse

redcoat: "But I guess my central point is, your defense wasn't really the problem last year, was it?"

It was, in a way. Gaudy stats with respect to yards surrendered, sure. But turnovers? Way too few.

Greg Blache would no doubt agree with that. He knows that probably three-quarters of the games played during an NFL season could be described as 'lost' by one team rather than won by the other. Translation: mistakes translate into turnovers, which translate into quick, opportunistic, game-changing scores.

What the Skins needed last year, and usually didn't get, was pressure on the QB. When they did get it, and it resulted in a careless throw, they didn't turn it into an INT.

Partly that was due to Blache's preference for simple schemes over trickery. He thought Greg Williams inadvertently confused his own players by making them overthink their assignments. That's a valid observation, by the way.

Still, if the players can handle it, trickery works on defense. Better in some respects than on offense -- good offenses are often deceptively simple offenses.

Whether you think the pressure should come from blitzing, or from a pocket pushed back by a mighty interior rush, or from some speed demon crashing through from the end or linebacker spot -- you still need the pressure.

I haven't even gotten to the issue of that aging LB corps. An accident waiting to happen.

The Haynesworth signing means they may be looking at a LB type at pick 13. If they add Canty, that will make it even more interesting.


Posted by: Samson151 | February 27, 2009 8:25 AM | Report abuse

With the awesome defense, we will be receiving more punts! Here's another stat:

Randle-El - 345 fair catches

Posted by: RedskinJim1 | February 27, 2009 8:18 AM |

He will not be the PR this season guaranteed.

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 27, 2009 8:26 AM | Report abuse

Cindy - do you think we still have a shot at landing Dock, Brown, OR canty? Or are we done?

Posted by: Rypien11 | February 27, 2009 8:28 AM | Report abuse

man, maybe Obama should tap The Danny to be some kind of economic advisor - spend baby spend! First up I want a bail-out for all 5'8" 170 pound redheaded white dudes who can't play D-line, it's just not FAIR!! I can't help that I'm genetically challenged!!

Posted by: RedBaron2008 | February 27, 2009 8:28 AM | Report abuse

For those posters who call us "haters", how do you explain Snyder's record since he bought the team, excluding 1999 because he didn't have time to screw things up?

Posted by: pjente | February 27, 2009 8:24 AM |

How do you explain there record for the 8 years before he baught the team?

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 27, 2009 8:28 AM | Report abuse

Great moves so far now sign Canty and move JT to SSL and they have made some serious improvement to their D.

On offense sign Dockery and maybe Willis, resign Kendall for depth.

Draft the best available player at the OL, DL or LB postition.

Cap issues should not hinder the FO ability to sign these players. They will get it done one way or another.

Posted by: wsncskinsfan | February 27, 2009 8:29 AM | Report abuse

Um ... what about the offense? 12 TD passes, an aging O-Line and one of the lowest-scoring offenses in the league.

Posted by: quinn3 | February 27, 2009 8:30 AM | Report abuse

Dan Snyder = one-man stimulus package

Posted by: farstriker | February 27, 2009 8:30 AM | Report abuse

WOW! I am literally stunned! I didn't think it was possible to sign Albert and D. Hall. I got to give credit to the FO for getting it done. Now I just hope they have enough left to help the offensive line. I sure do hope Haynesworth is worth it though. Only time will tell

Posted by: ga8085 | February 27, 2009 8:31 AM | Report abuse

Hit refresh; updated with Canty/Dockery and added Talking Points. About 3 minutes in, the guys address Haynesworth and fan fears about getting him. Am leavin for office now.

Posted by: Cindy Boren | February 27, 2009 8:32 AM | Report abuse

I'm shocked at the people crying over the fact that we got the best DT in the game.

What was the reasoning before? That we wouldn't be able to sign anybody else? Well we inked Deangelo Hall to a $50+ million dollar deal as well, and we did it with, according to JLC, $8.1 million in cap space.

We also have a $6 million insurance policy in Shawn Springs that can be dropped at a moments notice to essentially bring that cap space right back to the beginning. So again, I ask, what's the problem?

No matter how many times you try and justify it to yourselves, Snyder just landed the best player in free agency, landed the best CB in free agency, and did it with an extremely limited budget. And with another $6 million on the horizon, where is everybody's issue? You can't POSSIBLY think Chris Canty is a better player (or even worthy to be mentioned in the same breath) than Haynesworth, so again, what's the issue?

Posted by: psps23 | February 27, 2009 8:33 AM | Report abuse

Nevermind, just saw the update!

Too bad Canty has to walk. I thought hed be a good young guy for us.

Posted by: Rypien11 | February 27, 2009 8:33 AM | Report abuse

and for the record, The Truth is agains this deal.

The Truth says if we had 100 mil to spend, we should've went after about 4 or 5 players, not just one.

really, that's kinda common sense I thought?

Posted by: TheTruth11 | February 27, 2009 8:34 AM | Report abuse

Don't understand why peeps are saying we have ignored the offense. FA is not even 12 hours old and lots of crying. One thing we should know is that this FO can work the salary cap. I still think, like Flounder, that we will get some OL FAs.

Posted by: Curzon417 | February 27, 2009 8:34 AM | Report abuse

I'm still a little puzzled. Of course even an 80% Stampy upgrades the center of your D, but didn't Milton Bradley III, Blandon Jacobs and LeJohn (Yippee Ki-Yay MoFo) McClane run all over Andre Carter and Jason Taylor in those games?

Posted by: Redcoat | February 27, 2009 8:25 AM

I'm with you, Redcoat. I'm sure Zorn is giving 3 cheers for the interior of the line, but you still have two tiki torches at DE and opponents will just do what they've been doing -- run off tackle.

$100 million blown--shoulda given it to repair the economy...

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 27, 2009 8:36 AM | Report abuse

The Truth says if we had 100 mil to spend, we should've went after about 4 or 5 players, not just one.

really, that's kinda common sense I thought?

Posted by: TheTruth11

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Which 4 or 5 players? Career backups that would provide zero upgrade?

I'd put decent money Jason Brown signs the richest deal ever for an interior lineman. Chris Canty will get $8 million per year plus. That's 2 players, and they would cost more than what Haynesworth costs.

Posted by: psps23 | February 27, 2009 8:37 AM | Report abuse

Maybe I should phrase this a different way to describe my confusion.

@. Stampy used to play for the Titans.
f. IMHO regardless of AH, man for man last season the Titans were a better team than the Redskins.
6. What did the Titans win last year?

Therefore, by adding Stampy to the Skins, and not really changing anything else (at least yet), why would you expect the Skins to win something in 2009?

Is he really going to make everyone else that much better?

Posted by: Redcoat | February 27, 2009 8:39 AM | Report abuse

I'd like to go on record that I am against this deal......we should have signed Dockery, Canty and Crowell for what we're going to pay Albert who will be good for 2 or 3 years and then breakdown like all DT's do after 30.

Posted by: zjfr2 | February 27, 2009 8:39 AM | Report abuse

I'm with you, Redcoat. I'm sure Zorn is giving 3 cheers for the interior of the line, but you still have two tiki torches at DE and opponents will just do what they've been doing -- run off tackle.

$100 million blown--shoulda given it to repair the economy...

Posted by: brownwood26

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You want a run-stuffer at DE, stick 300 lb Kedrick Golston or Anthony Montgomery over there. It's not like Chris Canty -- everybody's beloved target -- was any sort of pass-rush threat. Problem solved.

Posted by: psps23 | February 27, 2009 8:41 AM | Report abuse

Told ya the Skins would sign Haynesworth... He was my number one pick in free agency.

Posted by: siris | February 27, 2009 8:41 AM | Report abuse

JLC, maybe you should change the name of this column to Redskins Outsider. You couldn't scoop a Skins story if it were made of burgundy and gold ice cream. This was old news 2 days ago. Perhaps you should broaden your sources beyond espn.com and cbssportsline. As for the pickup, if it prevents the Skins from signing a premier O-line FA, it's a $100 mil bust. Would much rather have signed Canty/Dockery combo. You could sign Canty for half the cheese and get 90% of the production.

Posted by: Kenbeatrizz | February 27, 2009 8:41 AM | Report abuse

I dunno specifics, I haven't been keeping up with all this stuff. I do know we just signed a big name guy to a huge deal in free agency and I also do know the history the Skins had of that.

I had a flashback of texting my friend last year "Redskins get Jason Taylor, Superbowl time!" OOPS

won't make that mistake this year

Posted by: TheTruth11 | February 27, 2009 8:41 AM | Report abuse

Danny and Vinnie clearly learn nothing

Posted by: cilp33 | February 27, 2009 8:41 AM | Report abuse

Wow Cindy...you guys really are mistaking Haynesworth for Stubblefield! James Harrison was Defensive Player of the Year, not Haynesworth.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 27, 2009 8:41 AM | Report abuse

Why are people still mad.

are we not improving the 8-8 team from last year?

Please sit back relax and enjoy the show.

The line will be addressed. Don't forget we have the 13 pick too.

Relax.

It will look good on paper this year. Its up to the players and coaches to make it happen

Posted by: 1skinfan | February 27, 2009 8:43 AM | Report abuse

If Daniels is brought back, that would help the DE issues for this yr. Now I hope they get one of the OT in the draft if available. Would love to see if they can resign Evans too.

Posted by: ga8085 | February 27, 2009 8:43 AM | Report abuse

just went through SI's Top 25 Free Agent signings ever


two included were Stephen Davis and Antonio Pierce

none were players that came to the Skins in Snyder's era, but two were one's we let go


OOPS

Posted by: TheTruth11 | February 27, 2009 8:44 AM | Report abuse

"As for the pickup, if it prevents the Skins from signing a premier O-line FA, it's a $100 mil bust.

Posted by: Kenbeatrizz"

It's impossible to prevent a premier O-line FA signing. There are none.

Posted by: psps23 | February 27, 2009 8:45 AM | Report abuse

You want a run-stuffer at DE, stick 300 lb Kedrick Golston or Anthony Montgomery over there. It's not like Chris Canty -- everybody's beloved target -- was any sort of pass-rush threat. Problem solved.

Posted by: psps23 | February 27, 2009 8:41 AM

So take two DTs and play them out of position to make room for Haynesworth...good call. You must be his agent or something...

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 27, 2009 8:45 AM | Report abuse

Great signings. The Redskins know there will not be a cap next year. The rich football teams are not going to agree to revenue sharing when team like the Bills don't try to raise additional revenue. Snyder, Jones, & Kraft don't want a salary cap.

It says Haynesworth is guaranteed $32 million in the first 13 months. That means he will probably get $15-$20 million upfront and then a guaranteed bonus of $15-$20 million next February. That will make the salary cap hit less this year.

Hopefully, the Redskins can now sign Dockery and another offensive lineman. I wuld like to see them restructure Springs and Taylor. It depends if Springs will be a team player or not. I definitely think Taylor restructures.

Posted by: cspwoods3 | February 27, 2009 8:45 AM | Report abuse

"OOPS" - the new Redskins slogan

Posted by: TheTruth11 | February 27, 2009 8:46 AM | Report abuse

Anyone remember Sean Gilbert? I was having some remorse over not renewing for 2009 but feel better about my decision now. This may keep the ticket and merchandise sales going but forget championships. Those who do not learn from past mistakes are doomed to repeat them.

Posted by: collins63 | February 27, 2009 8:47 AM | Report abuse

So take two DTs and play them out of position to make room for Haynesworth...good call. You must be his agent or something...

Posted by: brownwood26

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Out of position...like Chris Canty? Who was a 3-4 DE that is now being explored by the Tennesee Titans to be a run-stuffing DT?

You're right. Much better option there.

Posted by: psps23 | February 27, 2009 8:47 AM | Report abuse

Hopefully, the Redskins can now sign Dockery and another offensive lineman. I wuld like to see them restructure Springs and Taylor. It depends if Springs will be a team player or not. I definitely think Taylor restructures.

Posted by: cspwoods3 | February 27, 2009 8:45 AM |

I would like them to cut both, Springs only plays 5 games a year.

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 27, 2009 8:47 AM | Report abuse

You all are missing the boat. Arrington was great when he free-lanced. Taylor was great at Miami because he was given freedom. Haynesworth great at Tennessee because he could just barge thru the line. BUT THAT ISN'T WILLIAMS OR BLANCHE'S SYSTEM (stop the run first, then rush the passer). They flop here because they are put into a different system than what they flourished in. Haynesworth will be less productive here because we have a conservative/everybody play YOUR spot only type defense. This defense doesn't allow for individuals to excel and won't allow Haynesworth to excel. BANK IT.

Posted by: bamaboy1 | February 27, 2009 8:50 AM | Report abuse

keep Jason Taylor, he'll be fine this year with Haynesworth. He could get upfield all year, but we had ZERO rush from our DT so it didn't matter at all.


But he needs to take a paycut or restructure definitely.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | February 27, 2009 8:50 AM | Report abuse

good for 2 or 3 years and then breakdown like all DT's do after 30.

Posted by: zjfr2 | February 27, 2009 8:39 AM


I think what's interesting is that most of the guaranteed money is in that 2-3 year period. The skins have also freed up a lot of cap space after the 2010 season with the latest restructured salaries. So if they need to cut him, or trade him the cap hit shouldn't be too bad I would think. Also, signing AH means that getting run stuffing DEs and/or OLBs that could set the edge the next priority on the defensive side of the ball as teams would most likely attack the edges of the Dline even more.

Posted by: TWISI | February 27, 2009 8:50 AM | Report abuse

Danny Snyder is like Charlie Brown trying to kick that darn football, and every superstar free agent he's signed is like Lucy, holding the ball then snatching it away at the last moment. But maybe this time, it will finally work out.

Just don't hold your breath.

Posted by: gringoinmiami | February 27, 2009 8:51 AM | Report abuse

Springs is definitely injury prone but I would like to see him as a safety. I think Rogers, Hall, & Springs would look good in the secondary but only if Springs restructures. Don't give him any extra money. He will be gone after this year regardless.

Posted by: cspwoods3 | February 27, 2009 8:52 AM | Report abuse

Theyre going to hold out as long as they can to try and find a deal for Springs... if not, hell be cut.

I don't see Taylor restructuring.... I think he knows if he did hed be cut after this year and only get whatever he volunteered for this year, not the $8M.

Posted by: Rypien11 | February 27, 2009 8:52 AM | Report abuse

And the Redskins have to lay off people. Hilarious.

Beantown and whoever else kept saying not gonna happen. These guys have learned. Thy haven't learned jack. Great we got Haynesworth. Hope Campbell can throw off his back.

Posted by: Posse81_83_84 | February 27, 2009 8:53 AM | Report abuse

They could have picked Raji for less money and had a guy without character issues.

DUMB! DUMB! DUMB! DUMB!

OL take a year, at least, to develop. That is where we should have focussed in FA. Drafting OL will not help us for s year.

Kings of the offseason - at home in the postseason.

Posted by: oldnova | February 27, 2009 8:53 AM | Report abuse

The skins will sign who ever they want.
You name it...they will get it.

Stop crying and being sad about not having linemans yet...blah blah

Will they all be coached up this year is the question

Posted by: 1skinfan | February 27, 2009 8:54 AM | Report abuse

To quote Gump:
"Stupid is as stupid does"

I sure hope Haynesworth's transition to Left Tackle is a success.

Posted by: isnadd | February 27, 2009 8:55 AM | Report abuse

can't get it to play at work, what does the video say, anything substantial??

The guys on NFL Network were saying that Blach is JUST the type of coach that AH needs. He's a no crap type of coach, who wont allow AH to get lazy.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | February 27, 2009 8:56 AM | Report abuse

They flop here because they are put into a different system than what they flourished in. Haynesworth will be less productive here because we have a conservative/everybody play YOUR spot only type defense. This defense doesn't allow for individuals to excel and won't allow Haynesworth to excel. BANK IT.

Posted by: bamaboy1 | February 27, 2009 8:50 AM |

AH is a run stuffing DT, who comes from the same system that Williams ran here.

AH never busted through anything he eats up two blockers and gets his sacks when the QB has to step up in the pocket.

Tenn. had a better run defense then the Skins mostly because of AH.

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 27, 2009 8:57 AM | Report abuse

The skins will sign who ever they want.
You name it...they will get it.

Stop crying and being sad about not having linemans yet...blah blah

Will they all be coached up this year is the question

Posted by: 1skinfan | February 27, 2009 8:54 AM


Done us a lot of good in the past. HOF coaches can't make old broken down dudes play any better. Keep eating all the sh*t Dan Snyder feeds you though. Keep us updated how it tastes.

Posted by: Posse81_83_84 | February 27, 2009 8:58 AM | Report abuse

OL take a year, at least, to develop. That is where we should have focussed in FA. Drafting OL will not help us for s year.

Kings of the offseason - at home in the postseason.

Posted by: oldnova | February 27, 2009 8:53 AM |

What O-Linemen are you talking about in FA's list them please.

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 27, 2009 8:59 AM | Report abuse

Ahhh, just how the SUPER BOWL winning Steelers would have done it.

Posted by: Gfunk | February 27, 2009 9:00 AM | Report abuse

Out of position...like Chris Canty? Who was a 3-4 DE that is now being explored by the Tennesee Titans to be a run-stuffing DT?

You're right. Much better option there.

Posted by: psps23 | February 27, 2009 8:47 AM

Hey, we're in agreement on Canty! I don't want ANYONE who wore the star here, much less a guy whose position doesn't translate to this defense. I just think the O-line should be the priority this year and that getting Haynesworth is costing this team a chance to get Jason Brown and two other possible starters. Plus I don't believe we're getting the 2008 Haynesworth.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 27, 2009 9:00 AM | Report abuse

OK, so our d-line just improved...we still need a pass rusher but I'm hoping that Mr. Haynesworth drawing a double team will help the rest of our Front-4 and Blitz packages.

We are really weak at linebacker which was our strongest unit 2 years ago.

Our secondary is pretty strong, it would be nice to see Tryon develop into something more than a special teams guy or were one injury away from problems.

Offense: We're not strong at QB but we aren't going to address that this year. We play with what we go.

Our running backs are solid.

Our tight ends are very solid.

Our receivers could be solid if Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelley contribute this year. Moss can still beat coverages. Randle-El....not so much.

So, that leaves Offensive Line. If we can get Dockery under the cap (not sure if we can) and use all of our draft picks on offensive line.....


we're gonna have huge cap problems for the next 5 years.

Posted by: isnadd | February 27, 2009 9:01 AM | Report abuse

Done us a lot of good in the past. HOF coaches can't make old broken down dudes play any better. Keep eating all the sh*t Dan Snyder feeds you though. Keep us updated how it tastes.

Posted by: Posse81_83_84 | February 27, 2009 8:58 AM |

HOF coach signed the worst FA's this team has ever had, so HOF coach was just as much to blame as anyone else.

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 27, 2009 9:01 AM | Report abuse

I think people are forgetting that the Skins cut Marcus Washington. I still think they should address a guard and tackle in free agency and then take the best outside linebacker at the 13th position in the draft.

Im not sure that Blades can be an effective outside backer.

Posted by: gallrick | February 27, 2009 9:01 AM | Report abuse

we're gonna have huge cap problems for the next 5 years.

Posted by: isnadd | February 27, 2009 9:01 AM |

That makes me laugh we have had cap problems for the last 6 years yet they get everyone they want.

They will clear a bunch of cap space next year don't worry.

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 27, 2009 9:04 AM | Report abuse

People forget that Jevon Kearse’s career was somewhat rejuvenated by playing alongside Albert Haynesworth.

Posted by: Number4DCSportsFan | February 27, 2009 9:05 AM | Report abuse

exactly flounder, jim schwartz is a GG disciple. defense is similar

Posted by: drewkinnear | February 27, 2009 9:05 AM | Report abuse

What O-Linemen are you talking about in FA's list them please.

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 27, 2009 8:59 AM |

Flounder - appropriate monicker.

Posted by: oldnova | February 27, 2009 9:06 AM | Report abuse

lots of vitriol up here today. the fact is that we wont know what AH version we'll get till September, hopefully we're getting the mean/nasty, unblockable guy.

Free Agency is still VERY YOUNG, and I'd bet that the team isn't done yet.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | February 27, 2009 9:06 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 27, 2009 9:01 AM

I am not talking about our coaches. The best coaches in history could not coach dudes that have nothing left in the tank.

So I guess now you think it was wise to sign Haynesworth to that deal when we have needs at other spots. Some of you on here flip flop at the drop of a hat.

Posted by: Posse81_83_84 | February 27, 2009 9:06 AM | Report abuse

Hey, remember DANA STUBBLEFIELD?????
former defensive player of the year, we get him and then what happens? He falls down the stairs in his house and doesn't play most of the season. When he actually played redskins didn't a game. That's the year they started 0-7. Albert Haynesworth got his money, lets hope he plays like he is (haynes)worth it!!!!!

Peace out!

Posted by: goaway41 | February 27, 2009 9:08 AM | Report abuse

Sign Dockery back and steal Brown from the Ravens. Take the hardest hitter in the draft, Rey Mauluaga, to create the meanest D in the nfl. Mauluaga can replace Marcus this year and then slide back to middle linebacker when London leaves.

Posted by: brian58 | February 27, 2009 9:08 AM | Report abuse

Flounder - appropriate monicker.

Posted by: oldnova | February 27, 2009 9:06 AM |

You are making a statement that they should have went after O-Line.

Back that up with who you would take, or are you just spouting off at the FO like so many others up here.

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 27, 2009 9:08 AM | Report abuse

"I just think the O-line should be the priority this year and that getting Haynesworth is costing this team a chance to get Jason Brown and two other possible starters.

Posted by: brownwood26"

For me, there's 2 things.

(1) I certainly don't see 3 starters in free agency along the lines. Two? Possibly. But there is no OT out there that's young and an upgrade, and we don't need any old or injury prone players brought in along that line.

(2) We just spent over $150 million with, according to JLC, $8 million in cap space. With Shawn Springs possibly being cut, what makes you think we couldn't add 2 more players with $6 million more?

If Snyder or Cerrato feel we need to go after Brown and Dock, we still have the ability to go after Brown and Dock. Signing Haynesworth will not prevent that.

Posted by: psps23 | February 27, 2009 9:09 AM | Report abuse

I am not talking about our coaches. The best coaches in history could not coach dudes that have nothing left in the tank.

So I guess now you think it was wise to sign Haynesworth to that deal when we have needs at other spots. Some of you on here flip flop at the drop of a hat.

Posted by: Posse81_83_84 | February 27, 2009 9:06 AM |

I never said I liked the deal but since it is done why cry about, you can't change it so get on board or go root for a team who's FO runs things the way you like.

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 27, 2009 9:10 AM | Report abuse

Wow it's just like the old days of earlier in this DECADE.......now expect us to take our next 4-5 draft picks this April and use them on nothing but TE's & Safeties.
Simply marvelous.

Posted by: slipperyrichard | February 27, 2009 9:11 AM | Report abuse

"People forget that Jevon Kearse’s career was somewhat rejuvenated by playing alongside Albert Haynesworth.

Posted by: Number4DCSportsFan"

Not to mention that he's one of the worst stand-alone run-stuffing DEs in the business. But I guess teams just ran all over him when they played the Titans. No shot Haynesworth helped in that regard.

Posted by: psps23 | February 27, 2009 9:12 AM | Report abuse

If Albert plays like Sean Gilbert or Daryl Gardner did back in the day, we could come out of this looking really good. Thanks Dan for trying to make us better. Now get some OL to protect Campbell!

Posted by: vtsquirm1 | February 27, 2009 9:12 AM | Report abuse

If we can still get Dockery, then its ok, cause we'll get a RT at 13. But if we can't get him, then we need to go RT at 13 and some sort of package to move into the 2nd round and get one of the top guards.

Posted by: zjfr2 | February 27, 2009 9:13 AM | Report abuse

Get Dockery back and steal Brown from the Ravens. Take the hardest hitter in the draft, Rey Maualuga to replace Marcus. He can move to the middle when London retires.

Posted by: brian58 | February 27, 2009 9:13 AM | Report abuse

I have to go put on some swimmies to type in here because of all the tears. Not only did Snyder win the offsease but this blog finally beat out the Eagles fan base for being the biggest bunch of babies that call themselves NFL fans. I can't believe what a joke you guys are.

The Redskins were BLESSED with an owner that will spare NO expense to get every ounce of talant he can on the team and all that happens is crying. Wake up! They are still talking to DOC and the can address OT in the draft. Untwist the panties and hang on tight its gonna be a ride.

Posted by: Pleepleus | February 27, 2009 9:13 AM | Report abuse

Hey, remember DANA STUBBLEFIELD?????
former defensive player of the year, we get him and then what happens? He falls down the stairs in his house and doesn't play most of the season. When he actually played redskins didn't a game. That's the year they started 0-7. Albert Haynesworth got his money, lets hope he plays like he is (haynes)worth it!!!!!

Peace out!

Posted by: goaway41 | February 27, 2009 9:08 AM |

Stubby was only the defensive player of the year, because he had the best DT in the NFL playing next to him.

Bryant took all the double teams so that Stubby could do his thing.

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 27, 2009 9:13 AM | Report abuse

Amen flound.

If they did nothing, it would be because of 6 Flags, you can't please everyone. They signed the best free agent out there. They're not done. Give it some time.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | February 27, 2009 9:14 AM | Report abuse

"We just spent over $150 million with, according to JLC, $8 million in cap space. With Shawn Springs possibly being cut, what makes you think we couldn't add 2 more players with $6 million more?"


Jasno just stated that Springs savings could be used towards the contracts of AH and DH which have not officially been signed yet which is why people think that we will still have 6 mil left afterwards. Some of that 6 mil will be taken by these two contracts.

Posted by: bigfish761 | February 27, 2009 9:14 AM | Report abuse

On paper, the AH signing looks good. So did the Jason Taylor signing among others. Too many big dollar FA's have come here and not performed on the field. So while on paper all the signings look good, the FO's track record says this will not work out. Besides, AH had knee issues last year and my gut says he will have them again. This doesn't even take in to consideration the attitude and character issues that seem to follow AH.

Will this signing improve the team more than 8-8? Doubtful unless we can score more than 17 points a game.

Posted by: splitbill | February 27, 2009 9:17 AM | Report abuse

If Snyder or Cerrato feel we need to go after Brown and Dock, we still have the ability to go after Brown and Dock. Signing Haynesworth will not prevent that.

Posted by: psps23 | February 27, 2009 9:09 AM

Agree to disagree...even if I grant you that point I don't trust Haynesworth to play in burgundy and gold the way he did in 2008. You have it in mind that you're getting 2008 Haynesworth and that's what I seriously doubt. I would love for you to be right and come back on here and gloat until you pass out, but I can't remember a single BIG NAME free agent that ever worked out here. Washington is now a place to get paid, not win titles. And if Haynesworth was about winning, he'd stay in Tennessee. Therefore, the Skins literally get what they pay for.

Hard to get excited when you've already seen this movie and the tragic ending a million times...

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 27, 2009 9:18 AM | Report abuse

Jasno just stated that Springs savings could be used towards the contracts of AH and DH which have not officially been signed yet which is why people think that we will still have 6 mil left afterwards. Some of that 6 mil will be taken by these two contracts.


Posted by: bigfish761 | February 27, 2009 9:14 AM |

You dont need 6mil to sign to O-Line guys, we had 8mil and signed the two most expensive guys on the market.

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 27, 2009 9:18 AM | Report abuse

Jasno just stated that Springs savings could be used towards the contracts of AH and DH which have not officially been signed yet which is why people think that we will still have 6 mil left afterwards. Some of that 6 mil will be taken by these two contracts.

Posted by: bigfish761

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That's true, didn't see that. It'll be interesting to see how much room is left over.

Posted by: psps23 | February 27, 2009 9:18 AM | Report abuse

brown,

Why would he stay in Tenn. for winning what have they ever won?

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 27, 2009 9:20 AM | Report abuse

I never said I liked the deal but since it is done why cry about, you can't change it so get on board or go root for a team who's FO runs things the way you like.

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 27, 2009 9:10 AM | Report abuse

Agreed. No point of crying about it nowm its done, so everyone has to deal with it. Atleast the team definitely improved one of its weakest positions for the past several years. Even if Haynesworth doesn't play like he did in TN, he's still better than what they had before.

Posted by: ga8085 | February 27, 2009 9:20 AM | Report abuse

Flounder - Dockery , Brown, Bridges, Peterman... Andrews, barnes, carey...

We do not need to get a horse on the OL - just capable back-ups...

Drafting OL is a risk and a one year loss of production.

AH has character issues and reminds me of Sean Gilbert...

Posted by: oldnova | February 27, 2009 9:20 AM | Report abuse

Hell of a time to turning my tickets back to the Redskins after 43 years.

Posted by: chasla | February 27, 2009 9:21 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 27, 2009 9:10 AM

I could care less what these guys do now. It is obvious it will never change. We are gonna be a fantasy football team nothing more nothing less as long as this regime is in charge. I would never sell out and root for another team. I am pissed I have to endure a front office that is too stupid to ever learn. I can't take some of you seriously anymore with the back and forth.

Posted by: Posse81_83_84 | February 27, 2009 9:22 AM | Report abuse

You dont need 6mil to sign to O-Line guys, we had 8mil and signed the two most expensive guys on the market.

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 27, 2009 9:18 AM | Report abuse

you're not gettin the point. We did not sign AQH and DH with our current 8 mil of cap space. Those two contracts have not been approved through the league office yet and most likely will do more damage than 8 mil against the cap. Springs will have to be cut in order for these two contracts to be made official or we will go over the cap.

Posted by: bigfish761 | February 27, 2009 9:22 AM | Report abuse

who the hell is jason brown

Posted by: ctorbett | February 27, 2009 9:23 AM | Report abuse

Hard to get excited when you've already seen this movie and the tragic ending a million times...

Posted by: brownwood26

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To me, the real bad FAs haven't been the "big names". It's been the sleepers signed to big contracts. It wasn't Portis that blew up in our face, it's Archie, Lloyd, and Randle El. Those are the guys I want to avoid, not necessarily a proven big name.

Yes, it's a gamble. But I'd rather gamble on a guy who's proven he can be dominant rather than somebody that hasn't.

Posted by: psps23 | February 27, 2009 9:23 AM | Report abuse

Hard to get excited when you've already seen this movie and the tragic ending a million times...

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 27, 2009 9:18 AM

Agreed. Same plot - different title. This will end in tragedy because AH is getting paid for signing his name - not producing on the field. His character demonstrates that he has no higher purpose than himself.

Posted by: oldnova | February 27, 2009 9:24 AM | Report abuse

chasla, don't let the door hit ya....

old, how about we let AH play a DOWN IN A REDSKINS uniform, before we label him Sean Gilbert??

Crazy, I know....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | February 27, 2009 9:24 AM | Report abuse

What a freaking joke. F this organization.

Posted by: Zornado | February 27, 2009 9:27 AM | Report abuse

brown,

Why would he stay in Tenn. for winning what have they ever won?

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 27, 2009 9:20 AM

Are you serious? They won 13 games this year and have a Super Bowl appearance in the last 10 years. Meanwhile, the Skins have sucked a$$ for most of the last 17 YEARS! If you're going to compare the organizations AS THEY'RE CURRENTLY CONSTRUCTED, I would take Tennessee 10 times out of 10 and twice on Sunday.

There's a difference between having a winning history and a winning tradition. The Redskins have a winning history, only teams like the Pittsburgh Steelers have a winning TRADITION.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 27, 2009 9:27 AM | Report abuse

I swear the whole, "wah, I'm going to turn in my tickets" whine, just goes straight to the moon with me.

you want to turn in your tickets, turn them in, and quit whining like a little b*tch....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | February 27, 2009 9:27 AM | Report abuse

Agreed. Same plot - different title. This will end in tragedy because AH is getting paid for signing his name - not producing on the field. His character demonstrates that he has no higher purpose than himself.

Posted by: oldnova | February 27, 2009 9:24 AM | Report abuse

Have you watched this guy the past two yrs? He's had the most sacks of any DT the past two yrs and is the most dominant DT out there. How has he not produced?

PSP-You make a good point about the previous FA's signed here. They were unproven and rewarded for no reason at all

Posted by: ga8085 | February 27, 2009 9:28 AM | Report abuse

I'm not excited about these moves. I've been burned too many times on free-agent day. However, I'm not cheering for them to fail. I really hope these moves work and yield a championship. I'm just not holding my breath.

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 27, 2009 9:28 AM | Report abuse

old, how about we let AH play a DOWN IN A REDSKINS uniform, before we label him Sean Gilbert??

Crazy, I know....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | February 27, 2009 9:24 AM


I would love to be wrong and have you shove this in my face....

But the facts are that every big $$$ FA we sign at midnight has never become a dominant fixture ont this team.

Why should I give the skins FO the benefit of the doubt with AH? They have given everyone every reason to believe that they over-promise and under-deliver.

Posted by: oldnova | February 27, 2009 9:29 AM | Report abuse

"We do not need to get a horse on the OL - just capable back-ups..."

We've got plenty of capable back-ups. We need a starter. None of the guys you mentioned, save Jason Brown, fits the bill. Heyer, Jansen, Rinehart are more than capable as backups.

"Drafting OL is a risk and a one year loss of production."

Every draft pick is a risk. OL is one of the least risky ones. And it has the highest rate of immediate impact besides RBs and LBs.

Do any of these names ring a bell: Jake Long, Sam Baker, Ryan Clady, Joe Thomas, Tony Ugoh, Marcus McNeil, D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Nick Mangold, Marshal Yanda, and Joe Staley.

Every one of them started as a rookie, and a number of them were pro-bowlers. Offensive line is a very safe position to draft, relatively speaking, especially in the first round.

Posted by: psps23 | February 27, 2009 9:30 AM | Report abuse

Flounder - Dockery , Brown, Bridges, Peterman... Andrews, barnes, carey...

We do not need to get a horse on the OL - just capable back-ups...

Drafting OL is a risk and a one year loss of production.

AH has character issues and reminds me of Sean Gilbert...

Posted by: oldnova | February 27, 2009 9:20 AM |

Thanks for the list we can still get two of those guys easly.

AH stomped on a Cowgilrs face, I hope he does it harder when he plays them twice this year.

There are lots of guys in the NFL that have character issues, Ray Lewis might have killed someone.

You can't win with a team of chrisitians you need a few thugs.

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 27, 2009 9:31 AM | Report abuse

brown,

Why would he stay in Tenn. for winning what have they ever won?

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 27, 2009 9:20 AM

Are you serious? They won 13 games this year and have a Super Bowl appearance in the last 10 years. Meanwhile, the Skins have sucked a$$ for most of the last 17 YEARS! If you're going to compare the organizations AS THEY'RE CURRENTLY CONSTRUCTED, I would take Tennessee 10 times out of 10 and twice on Sunday.

There's a difference between having a winning history and a winning tradition. The Redskins have a winning history, only teams like the Pittsburgh Steelers have a winning TRADITION.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 27, 2009 9:27 AM | Report abuse

This is true, the team shoudl take a page out of the fans book. These fans have a rich tradition of being asshats, and being very good at what they do.

Posted by: Pleepleus | February 27, 2009 9:32 AM | Report abuse

old, don't...don't give them another second of your precious time.

needle point
wood carving

just two hobby's you can look into instead of following this team.........

Posted by: BeantownGreg | February 27, 2009 9:33 AM | Report abuse

To me, the real bad FAs haven't been the "big names". It's been the sleepers signed to big contracts. It wasn't Portis that blew up in our face, it's Archie, Lloyd, and Randle El. Those are the guys I want to avoid, not necessarily a proven big name.

Posted by: psps23 | February 27, 2009 9:23 AM

Deion wasn't a big name? Jason Taylor wasn't a big name? Mark Carrier? Jeff George? I could keep going, but there's a text limit...

And I wouldn't call Haynesworth "proven". All he's proven is that he can bring it in a contract year. I think the Skins just paid $100 million for the Haynesworth 3 years ago when he was better known for stomping a man's head instead of for his play.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 27, 2009 9:34 AM | Report abuse

OK they got Albert. If this works out, then I wil be the first to laud the front office and Mr. Snyder. But I have followed this team for nearly 60 years and during the past 12 or so of them bringing in the big stud does not always work out. We will have to see how all of this works out. I hope I am very, very wrong. But this is the same management that got lucky on DeAngelo Hall but also burned a huge draft choice on a PUNTER and cut him!

Posted by: royhobbs56 | February 27, 2009 9:34 AM | Report abuse

"Ray Lewis might have killed someone"

Flound, come on man...this was laugh out loud funny....ray ray killed 2 cats, lets not mince words here....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | February 27, 2009 9:35 AM | Report abuse

I am so ticked off, pissed off right now!

Our Defense was certainly much stronger than our offense, and what do we do? We go out and LUST after the top Free Agent Haynesworth and simply can't refuse the seduction.

It's like we have a very attractive wife who is good in bed, and children at home w/ real needs but we go out and are seduced by the prostitute so we can have some silly short term thrill ride!

And we sign these guys to mega-buck deals, and we could have signed Dockery a LG and Canty a DE and guess what, folks?

What the defense lacked was a pass rushing DE and the offense desperately needed --- EXCUSE ME STILL NEEDS OL.

Vinny and Danny! Always looking for the big splash. Always looking for the woman w/ the greatest breasts, willing to risk the future of your family [team] to get what you think is the biggest thrill. It's like they are addicted to the thrill ride of having sex w/ a woman you don't know. [Addicted to the seduction of each Spring signing the biggest FA out there]

Makes me sick!
Danny and Vinny need help!
Whoa there buddy...someone has sex on the brain!!...the price tag certainly is steep, but when haynesworth puts his 320 lb arse into brandon jacobs and steamrolls into Romo this yr, you all will be singing the praises of danny boy and cock-eyed cerrato...
D-Hall might actually create some turnovers and get this - see the field this season, unlike our friends Rogers and Springs.
getting O-line help should be the focus now and after releasing Springs there should be dollars for that.
maybe we can draft that LB from USC to replace Washington..
Go Skins!!

Posted by: fullonfully | February 27, 2009 9:35 AM | Report abuse

Dam I have to go do some work, keep the post to a minimum so I don't have so many to read when I get back.

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 27, 2009 9:36 AM | Report abuse

Half a face-palm so far.

We went and gave $100 mill + to Haynesnotworthit, like I feared.

And to all the apologists. This issue is not whether he is talented or an upgrade or "nasty". The issue is whether he is $100mill-worth it. The only guys w/contracts like this are Peyton Manning and Ben Roethlisberger, and other SuperBowl winning QB types.

This reeks of the bloated contract that the Falcons gave to Mike Vick who had done nothing to deserve $130mill. He was talented and sketchy...and look what they got.

At least we re-signed Hall. Maybe a little expensive, but talented CBs have always been overpaid in the NFL and we did what we had to do.

I'm waiting for good news on Dockery.

Posted by: p1funk | February 27, 2009 9:37 AM | Report abuse

To me, the real bad FAs haven't been the "big names". It's been the sleepers signed to big contracts. It wasn't Portis that blew up in our face, it's Archie, Lloyd, and Randle El. Those are the guys I want to avoid, not necessarily a proven big name.

Posted by: psps23 | February 27, 2009 9:23 AM

Deion wasn't a big name? Jason Taylor wasn't a big name? Mark Carrier? Jeff George? I could keep going, but there's a text limit...

And I wouldn't call Haynesworth "proven". All he's proven is that he can bring it in a contract year. I think the Skins just paid $100 million for the Haynesworth 3 years ago when he was better known for stomping a man's head instead of for his play.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 27, 2009 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Broham, you are comparing people that were all over the age of 34 to a man that is 27 and in the prime of his career. I know you are trying to make a point by twisting facts but atleast give a valid effort.

Posted by: Pleepleus | February 27, 2009 9:38 AM | Report abuse

"Deion wasn't a big name? Jason Taylor wasn't a big name? Mark Carrier? Jeff George? I could keep going, but there's a text limit...

Posted by: brownwood26"

Huge difference between the guys you mentioned. Every one of them was WELL past his prime before coming here. If Haynesworth was 32+ and had been declining, then yes, I'd agree.

The only valid comparison is Dana Stubblefield. One time in 10 years is an anomaly, not a pattern.

Posted by: psps23 | February 27, 2009 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Half a face-palm so far.

We went and gave $100 mill + to Haynesnotworthit, like I feared.

And to all the apologists. This issue is not whether he is talented or an upgrade or "nasty". The issue is whether he is $100mill-worth it. The only guys w/contracts like this are Peyton Manning and Ben Roethlisberger, and other SuperBowl winning QB types.

This reeks of the bloated contract that the Falcons gave to Mike Vick who had done nothing to deserve $130mill. He was talented and sketchy...and look what they got.

At least we re-signed Hall. Maybe a little expensive, but talented CBs have always been overpaid in the NFL and we did what we had to do.

I'm waiting for good news on Dockery.

Posted by: p1funk | February 27, 2009 9:37 AM | Report abuse

DT and QB are the two hardest spots on the field to find a game changer. you have to pay accordigly.

Posted by: Pleepleus | February 27, 2009 9:40 AM | Report abuse

I was against this signing at first but after watching NFL total access last night and the guys there talking about how Blache is the guy to really get the most out of AH, I'm cautiously optimistic...

If we can pick up 1 or 2 OL in FA and then draft Malauga from USC (or another top rated OL, LB, or DE) with #13 then if we get OL, DL, RB? with the other 3 picks...

But the Skins do this every year, raise up your hopes then totally let you down with poor execution and piss poor decisions

Posted by: BostonWarPath | February 27, 2009 9:40 AM | Report abuse

Haynesworth and Hall are TWO of the top ten free agents out there. If any middle-of-the-road team short of the Skins signed them both the press would be praising them up the wazoo about what a coup it was. Let the Skins sign them and the world is coming to an end. Yes the Skins have pressing needs in other places but so do the other mediocre teams who went 9-7, 8-8, or worse. If signing two top flight defensive players makes your defense better and keeps the other team from scoring then your offense is helped out from the git-go. Getting Dockerry back and signing this tackle from Seattle might be the finishing pieces.

Posted by: bullwinkle1 | February 27, 2009 9:42 AM | Report abuse

Funny people are bragging because, "I told ya'll we'd get Haynesworth". No s**t, Danny Boy and Mr. Radio Vinny will always overpay for talent. This is crazy, but I'm not surprised. No matter how talented he his, why the hell would you pay this man $100 million with $40 guarantee? 2 players don’t make a whole team. I guess we'll have to learn the hard way again. The Titans picked him in the 1st round. How come the Redskins can't draft there own Haynesworth in the 1st round? The excuse people will use is, "the Skins don't draft good". Well guess what, the Skins have no choice. We need to keep all our draft picks for the next 10 years and draft based on our needs. If the Skins would get a real GM and get serious about drafting, we can be in the playoff mix season after season after season.

I didn't hear the Pats, Colts, Steelers or Giants throwing big money Haynesworth's way. Oh I know why, because they're successful football organizations. How? They acquire there talent through the draft. So we put $154 million into 2 players. How's that plan worked the last 10 years? Not so good. We still need a backup RB, 3 offensive linemen, 1 more defensive lineman and an outside linebacker. Oh s**t if we had all our draft picks and didn't overpay for players, we could handle all of this in the draft.

Every year the Skins have there offseason bonanza and every year they trick the fans into spending there hard earned money on a lousy product. If we don't land any good offensive lineman in the offseason, this we'll be one of the reasons Campbell will be running for his life again this season. Again the Skins shouldn't be spending $154 million on 2 players. I wonder if they'll play hard or if they'll become less hungry because of these huge contracts. Congrats to Danny Boy and Mr. Radio Vinny for making another huge splash, getting the fans in another Super Bowl frenzy and ignoring all the other positions that need an upgrade.

Posted by: trueredskinsfan | February 27, 2009 9:42 AM | Report abuse

But the facts are that every big $$$ FA we sign at midnight has never become a dominant fixture ont this team.

Posted by: oldnova | February 27, 2009 9:29 AM | Report abuse


How bout Corn Griff? Marcus Wash? S Springs? The 04 FA class may be old now, but they helped this team immensely for 4 years. And some may still contribute.

Posted by: VaBeachBlitz | February 27, 2009 9:42 AM | Report abuse

WHERE IS THE O-LINE DEPTH?

Seriously, I know the pass rush has been anemic, but isnt keeping campbell upright and able tothrow a priority.

WTF!!!

Posted by: rambo2000 | February 27, 2009 9:42 AM | Report abuse

I think a lot of people just like to be negative. If they can pull of getting a guard and then get a tackle in the draft. Then these moves will be good on paper. Let the guys play before you come to any judgement.

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | February 27, 2009 9:43 AM | Report abuse

DT and QB are the two hardest spots on the field to find a game changer. you have to pay accordigly.

Posted by: Pleepleus | February 27, 2009 9:40 AM | Report abuse

Our 4th-ranked defense last year did not feature a $100mill DT with questionable work-ethic and injury history.

I know tackles are important, but not nearly as important as QBs. Not even close.

Posted by: p1funk | February 27, 2009 9:45 AM | Report abuse

These signings kinda blow my theory of the Skins lack of action in last years FA. I figured they didnt sign anyone because they didnt have the room last year.

Apparently, they can make room no matter what cap number they're at. So this would prove that Vinny/Snyder do have some restraint in picking FA's, cuz Vinny said they didnt sign any FA's (of note) last year because theyre werent any worth signing.

Posted by: VaBeachBlitz | February 27, 2009 9:45 AM | Report abuse

With smart drafts and FAs the next two years, we are a Super Bowl contender in 2010.

By that time, we need to fill:

LG, C, RT, DE, SLB.

We can do that in the span of two drafts and 2 FA periods.

Pieces in place for next 2 years:

QB, RB, FB, TE, WR (if one of the rooks step up, and maybe we add another), DT, MLB, WLB, DB, S.

Could be a run.

Posted by: Rypien11 | February 27, 2009 9:47 AM | Report abuse

That's a lot of money, man.

Posted by: keithrjackson | February 27, 2009 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Some (predictable) predictions:

Timing of first "Fat Albert" media remark? First 'voluntary' workouts (which Stampy will of course miss).

Timing of permanent nickname change from "Stampy" to "Fat Albert"? Pre-season, game two.

Timing of first talk of "Free Agent Busts" in conjunction with Skins? Half-time in pre-season game 3.

Timing of first "it takes 'x' years to know if a free agent is a bust, SO HOW ABOUT WE GIVE THEM SOME TIME" response from Beantown? 10 minutes into half-time of pre-season game three. :-)

My name is Kreskin, I'll be here all week. Try the fish and remember to tip your waitress, they work hard and deserve your appreciation.

Posted by: Redcoat | February 27, 2009 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Haynesworth was born 11 years and one day after Phil Mickelson. I think that will be the key stat in 2009.

Number of playoff games won in 2009 by Redskins vs. wins in majors for Phil in 2009.

I think that's a pretty even money.

Posted by: MonkMossMann | February 27, 2009 9:48 AM | Report abuse

jm, I don't get it, I really don't....if following this team gives some people so much grief, and causes you to turn in your season tickets after 43 years, then GO DO SOMETHING ELSE.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | February 27, 2009 9:48 AM | Report abuse

"I figured they didnt sign anyone because they didnt have the room last year.

Posted by: VaBeachBlitz"

You got it. Snyder is by far the best owner in the league at manipulating the cap. Nobody else even comes close.

And the skins ended FA last year with over $10 million in cap space. That's how we were able to trade for Taylor without cutting anybody.

Posted by: psps23 | February 27, 2009 9:49 AM | Report abuse

The only valid comparison is Dana Stubblefield. One time in 10 years is an anomaly, not a pattern.

Posted by: psps23 | February 27, 2009 9:38 AM

Same position, same backstory, same reputation. I wouldn't call that an anomaly...an anomaly would mean freak injuries. I seem to recall Stubby having trouble staying healthy because he had trouble keeping his fat a$$ in shape.

And Peepleus, I'm not twisting fact at all. I seem to recall only one Redskin FA pickup making a Pro Bowl--Marcus Washington in '04. Just because a guy doesn't suck to high hell doesn't make him an effective signing worth the money. The fact of the matter is, you're almost always going to overpay in free agency. When you do (which should be rarely), it should be on a guy who fits your system to a tee. The Skins have only done that once by my count--London Fletcher.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 27, 2009 9:49 AM | Report abuse

New York (AP) - Shares of General Electric soared this morning on news that Albert Haynesworth signed a $100 million contract with the Washington Redskins with an estimated $41 million in guaranteed money. Earlier this month, GE's finance unit, GE Capital, provided capital in a deal to help Interstate Bakeries Corporation (IBC) emerge from bankruptcy as a private firm and is among its largest stakeholders. IBC is the the largest wholesale baker and distributor of fresh bakery products in the United States, and is the owner of the Hostess, Wonder Bread, Dolly Madison, Butternut Breads, and Drake's brands. IBC, which declared bankruptcy in 2004, expects to return to pre-bankruptcy form and plans to ramp up production at its 43 bakeries. On news of the signing, the company announced immediate plans to open 2 outlet stores in the DC-area - one in Ashburn and one in Landover. A third outlet will be opened once Haynesworth settles on a residence.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | February 27, 2009 9:49 AM | Report abuse

It is not that Haynesworth and Hall are bad players, they are not. However, they are not worth another 5 years of cap problems when we have so many holes to fill. In addition 2 players will not get us to the Super Bowl.
This is the same idiotic strategy that has made us a constant Super Bowl stay at home team for the past 17 years. It is depressing to be a Redskin fan and know all you have to look forward to is the annual marketing hype that is initiated with the signing of the soon to be failed stars.

Posted by: edeshields | February 27, 2009 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Is the "Stampy" a reference to the stomping AH did to that cowboy OL dude? Or am I missing something?

Posted by: VaBeachBlitz | February 27, 2009 9:50 AM | Report abuse

SO HOW ABOUT WE GIVE THEM SOME TIME" response from Beantown?

RC, you've got to give a guy like AH some time to adjust to the system, or heck, even play a game for that matter....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | February 27, 2009 9:50 AM | Report abuse

We're back! Last year was so boring...

Posted by: RHPa | February 27, 2009 9:51 AM | Report abuse

You can't win with a team of chrisitians you need a few thugs.

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 27, 2009 9:31 AM
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Oh, so you are defining Christians [followers of Jesus] as wimps, are you?

Let me tell you something:
Joe Gibbs
Darrell Green CB
Art Monk WR
Tim Johnson DT
Charles Mann DE

All were committed Christians.
All were winners.
Three of them are in the HOF!
All were tough as nails.
I hate Dallas but Roger Staubach wasn't tough?

You on the other hand?
You reveal you don't know what a REAL Christian is, and you don't know what it takes to be a real man.
You said, "you need a few thugs"

You are clueless and an idiot!

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | February 27, 2009 9:51 AM | Report abuse

To BeantwonGreg - Jim remembers the good Redskin times, and wants them back. Losers sit back and take it while winners go after the source of the problem, the front office.

Posted by: edeshields | February 27, 2009 9:53 AM | Report abuse

RR1, easy bud...take a breath...

Posted by: BeantownGreg | February 27, 2009 9:54 AM | Report abuse

Well, I didn't think this was a good idea. But before I went to bed, I watched me some NFL Network. These guys were practically drooling over AH. Lombardi called him the biggest FA since Reggie White. Shaefter said that the biggest FA since Reggie White and Daniel Snyder go together like mayonnaise and catfish. So I started to get a little excited.

And now the deal is done, so it's time to stop what-iffing and get on board and fired up! Hope AH is worth every penny and is this generation of Redskin's Nation's Dave Butz.

Ah yes... Dave Butz: a former St. Louis Cardinal, Butz is on the NFL all-80's team and one of the 70 Greatest Redskins. May AH be as good!

By the way... I really like that AH stomped on a Cowboy. What we need here is COWBOY STOMPERS, not cowboy players. Go home Chris Canty! COWBOYS suck and FORMER COWBOYS become Redskins Poison... like old Pineapple Face Norv Turner. Or Alvin Harper. Duane Thomas, Deion, etc. etc. etc.

I hate DALLAS. I hate their lizard-lipped owner, their eunuch doughboy coach, Theresa "alligator arms" Owens, Tony Ohno, and their porous girlie-man, jailbird defense which is just the place for a thug like number 52 up B'more way. I CANNOT WAIT for AH to plant Marion Barber 2 inches deep into the emerald turf of FedEX!

GO REDSKINS!!!!!

Posted by: dpc2003 | February 27, 2009 9:55 AM | Report abuse

RR1, I guess maybe you are a christian??? Why do they get so angry so easily? I thought being deeply religious was supposed to make one more at peace with the world around them and life in general??? I guesss its overated...

Posted by: VaBeachBlitz | February 27, 2009 9:56 AM | Report abuse

I think next year the cap is gone for at least a year and our "cap issues" disappear. I'm not worried about the long term impact of these signings, I'm really not. My issue is this season, JC is going into the last year of his deal and has never had a healthy consistent or good offensive line in front of him for a full season. IF this signing comes at the expense of getting legit oline help than it was a stupid mistake. We could still sign Dockery, if we do that, then I'm fine with this, cause we'll get a RT in the draft and could still get another guard or center there as well, the issue is, we need two starters for our line, and only one of them can come from the #13 pick. If they just try to resign Kendal and patch in some late round picks behind him after a RT at 13, I'm not fine with this and its more poor management and poor prioritization of needs. Haynesworth is a great player and hopefully he will remain that way here, but he was a luxury at the one position on our front seven we have depth and if comes at the expense of our Oline as well, it was a bad move.

Posted by: zjfr2 | February 27, 2009 9:57 AM | Report abuse

Haynesworth and Hall -- great!

But wasn't the offense the problem last season??

Posted by: Joe_in_Raleigh | February 27, 2009 9:58 AM | Report abuse

That's what happens when you draft poorly, you end up paying all your salary cap for someone else's aging players. This team has been doing this for a decade, and this will only erode the team (overpriced, aging players over young, cheaper players you can groom). This absurb contract is an indictment on Cerrato & Snyder, who have not drafted a lineman in the first two rounds since 2000. What a joke.

Posted by: SammyT1 | February 27, 2009 9:58 AM | Report abuse

"However, they are not worth another 5 years of cap problems when we have so many holes to fill.

Posted by: edeshields"

There will not be 5 years of cap problems. Regardless of any uncapped years, within 2 years the Redskins will clear over $50 million in cap space from players' contracts either going up (Taylor, Springs, Rabach, Cartwright, Sellers, Yoder) or voiding (Daniels, Griffin, Samuels, Randle El, Carter). And that doesn't include possible cuts that would save even more (Smoot).

Trust me, the only year the team needs to worry about the salary cap is this year. That's it. As long as we can stay under (which we will) this team is good to go.

Posted by: psps23 | February 27, 2009 9:58 AM | Report abuse

You can't win with a team of chrisitians you need a few thugs.

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 27, 2009 9:31 AM

Right. Forget Kurt Warner; the Cards should be making a run at Mike Vick.

Posted by: p1funk | February 27, 2009 9:59 AM | Report abuse

If Albert plays like Sean Gilbert or Daryl Gardner did back in the day, we could come out of this looking really good. Thanks Dan for trying to make us better. Now get some OL to protect Campbell!

Posted by: vtsquirm1 | February 27, 2009 9:12 AM | Report abuse "

Not sure if I would hold these two jokers up in hopes of AH being like them.

Gilbert chose christ as his agent and sat out. Didn't think Jesus' advice would be to act like a fat d-bag prima donna, but how can I know his will...

Gardener had a monster year yes, but we saved his career which he promptly rewarded us by bolting to Broncos where he a-holed himeself right out of the league.

I say Big Daddy may be more the template. And while he performed decent, no where near the level of the price tag.

This/these moves fall under my norm operating procedure with modern day skins:

I HOPE it works out, but don't THINK that it will. I just wish the skins management didn't share my strategical philosophy...

Posted by: chrislarry | February 27, 2009 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Bart Scott is a Jet

Posted by: zjfr2 | February 27, 2009 9:59 AM | Report abuse

shields, let me help you and everyone else with something.

I'm asking that people be patient with this. AH hasn't played a DOWN in a Redskins uni, and people already have him labeled a bust. How about we use what he does on the field as the barometer of how we judge him?? Crazy, sure, but lets give it a shot.

I'm asking that people wait until the whole free agency period is over, before they scream that the FO has ignored the OL. I mean, 9 hours and 57 minutes into it, isn't a great deal of time, now is it.

Finally, I'm asking that if what the FO has done, so incenses people, that they turn in their season tickets after 43 years, perhaps they take this stuff too seriously, and should get a hobby other than this.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | February 27, 2009 10:00 AM | Report abuse

WHAT NUMBER DO YOU THINK FAT ALBERT WILL WEAR?

Posted by: slimbo-Rice | February 27, 2009 10:01 AM | Report abuse

The gushing wasn't just from NFL Network. The NFL Live crew were drooling as well, saying that he's by far the best DT in football, and if he wanted, he would be by far the best DE in football should he want to transition. There's a reason a reported 20+ teams went after this guy for over $100 million.

Posted by: psps23 | February 27, 2009 10:01 AM | Report abuse

Sorry for the religious comment, but I just finished The Da Vinci Code (great read by the way) and RR1 reminded me of Silas from Opus Dei.

Dockery come on home baby! I would think the 1st round pick has to be offense at this point... even though a SLB is still a need. But Vinny does draft BPA, and I never thought they could get both Hall and Big Al... so Ill stop trying to predict Vinny's moves (for now)

Posted by: VaBeachBlitz | February 27, 2009 10:02 AM | Report abuse

Actually when I think of "Stampy" I think both of Albert's tap-dance routine but also more relevantly of Bart's psychotic pet elephant in the Simpsons. :)

LH, LMAO at that one. I'm gonna buy some IBC shares right away!! And maybe we'll finally get that Dunkin' Donuts they've been trying to build in Ashburn for the last 5 years!!

Posted by: Redcoat | February 27, 2009 10:02 AM | Report abuse

from rotoworld
The Redskins have canceled their scheduled Friday visit with free agent DL Chris Canty. so guess were stuck with JT

Posted by: skinsst21 | February 27, 2009 10:03 AM | Report abuse

"However, they are not worth another 5 years of cap problems when we have so many holes to fill.

Posted by: edeshields"

Agree on Haynesnotworthit.

Cornerbacks, however, always get paid and Hall showed he can play in this defense and play well. He was, in many ways, one of the saving graces for our secondary. Springs was injured all year and Rogers started to regress to his old stone-handing double-moving ways. Hall ascended to the top of the chart, got a couple picks and showed he could play. A little overpaid, but not like Hayensworth who will never be able to justify $100 mill.

Posted by: p1funk | February 27, 2009 10:04 AM | Report abuse

Hey, beep beep LOST style... you gotta go back to the past to find it...

Posted by: Zeebs | February 27, 2009 10:04 AM | Report abuse

zj, thanks for the update on other signings....any other big name guys sign deals yet?

Posted by: BeantownGreg | February 27, 2009 10:04 AM | Report abuse

I'm not doubting Snyder's ability to sign a player--pay anyone enough and they'll come; it's not rocket science. I hope they prove me wrong but with their recent track record, this just seems like another attempt to buy a championship instead of build a team. Plus, wasn't our defense pretty good last year? Our priorities were O-line. Not sure this helps. Again, hope to be proven wrong but looks like another Deon Sanders, Jeff George, Adam Archuletta, Brandon Lloyd (and the list goes on) move.

Posted by: JW9288 | February 27, 2009 10:04 AM | Report abuse

Wow, over a million dollars per sack!

Posted by: shhhhh | February 27, 2009 10:05 AM | Report abuse

for this kind of dough i hope he can play the o-line, lb and wr too, cuz this team will not be able o afford any other good players for years to come.. i think goofy can put together a team better than these clowns..

Posted by: cboyhater | February 27, 2009 10:07 AM | Report abuse

The thing , or many things AL gives you is

1) More freedom for Fletcher... no one will get out to block him.. this is his pro bowl year.

2) More production out of DE's... which may eventually work out to making JT worht 8 mil if he doesnt restructure.

3) Makes CB's like Hall even more able to take gambles and jump routes. We had one TD outside of our offense last year, and that was Moss' PR for a TD. No defensive TD's. That is a big part of the nfl... hence us being the only top 5 Defense not in the playoffs.

4) The ONLY way this helps the offense in their work is more opportunities...

We obvi still need to work on the o line...

Posted by: Zeebs | February 27, 2009 10:11 AM | Report abuse

What a waste of money! One guy is not going to fill all the holes in the 'Skins line up.

Posted by: builder701 | February 27, 2009 10:12 AM | Report abuse

not that I've heard yet Greg, Housh is apparently visiting Seattle...

Posted by: zjfr2 | February 27, 2009 10:12 AM | Report abuse

nice pickups, but there are so many holes to fill besides DT. The biggest problem is still there - dannyboy and vinny are still running the circus!

Posted by: 1of9000 | February 27, 2009 10:12 AM | Report abuse

There goes the 2009 season. Just like 2008, and 2007, and 2006, and 2005, and 2004, 3, 2, 1, 0.

The Daniel, please Fire Vinny Cerrato.

Posted by: Meepo | February 27, 2009 10:12 AM | Report abuse

When I renew my season tickets today (funny how the due date is two days past the opening of free agency) do I get a free Haynesworth Jersey

Posted by: connskins | February 27, 2009 10:13 AM | Report abuse

I feel like I'm watching "Major League" in real life!!! WTF!!

Idiotic FO! The Hall signing I agree with, but the defense wasn't getting shredded. Sure we weren't getting the sacks, but we weren't constantly getting torched either.

I don't have much faith in this owner and FO. But as long as we're all stupid enough to keep following the herd and paying for tix and skins gear, they'll keep making stupid moves.

Let's see how they do with the OL. If they screw that up, I need to find a new team until The Danny sells the team.

Posted by: hwandon | February 27, 2009 10:13 AM | Report abuse

Zeebs,

Now ask yourself if 1+2+3 = $100 million.

Need to factor in how much money is now tied up at that one position which will limit our ability to upgrade the O-line (translation: bye bye Dockery).

Posted by: p1funk | February 27, 2009 10:13 AM | Report abuse

Come on, just find a way to get Dock and close the book on FA.

Take a RT at #13, if none are there, trade down and grab Mack and a DE/DT.

Next year well have a full draft and a bunch of $$ off the books, and we should be able to fill all our holes (giggity).

Posted by: Rypien11 | February 27, 2009 10:14 AM | Report abuse

zj, thanks.

zeebs, was there really a beep beep, I'm confused?

Posted by: BeantownGreg | February 27, 2009 10:14 AM | Report abuse

come on guys, go to the previous post... it is newer but has the wrong time... quicker refresh and all... thanks mngmt

Posted by: Zeebs | February 27, 2009 10:15 AM | Report abuse

Haynesworth would have probably taken 33 mil up front money, but nooooo the Danny will give him 41 mil up front. What a joke this is, it is hard to imagine the way this front office thinks. We are going to have to hold teams to 7 pts. because we can't score much more than 12 per game with our putrid offense.

Posted by: joeboggs | February 27, 2009 10:15 AM | Report abuse

Brilliant!! Spend 10 Million Dollars for a Defensive Lineman on a Team that score 13 points a game..

Posted by: bfs515 | February 27, 2009 10:20 AM | Report abuse

I think it's funny when some people accuse the Redskins of "trying to buy a championship."...lol

What do they think this is? A community flag-football league?

And more to the point, weren't the other 20 teams chasing Albert - including the Buccaneers, who have way more holes to fill than the Redskins - also trying to "buy a championship?"

Come on already.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | February 27, 2009 10:21 AM | Report abuse

Damn, make that 100 Million Dollars for a Defensive Lineman on a Team that score 13 points a game..

Posted by: bfs515 | February 27, 2009 10:21 AM | Report abuse

I know I've been ripping the AH signing, but at the very least he has the right attitude toward the Cowboys...

Posted by: p1funk | February 27, 2009 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Vinny Cerrato Talks Signings on ESPN 980

On how last night went:

"It was a long night, it was up and down, you know. At times you felt good, at times you felt terrible. But at about 5:30 this morning, we got the deal done with Albert, and probably about midnight we got the deal done with DeAngelo."

On how the DeAngelo Hall negotiations proceeded:

"It heated up about 11:30. I can't remember if it was right before midnight or right after. I mean, it was right around there that they accepted the deal."

On what Albert Haynesworth brings to the Redskins defense:

"I think we played outstanding defense, because we finished fourth, sixth against the points, but I think getting sacks and creating turnovers helps score points. I think it was something that we wanted to improve this offseason, and I think with the addition of Albert, I think what he does is he just distracts inside. I mean, he takes two or three blockers most of the time.

"He had eight and half sacks, but I think what he does is he helps everybody else get sacks, get turnovers. I mean, talking to all our players prior to this about, 'What do you think about getting Albert Haynesworth,' they were all ecstatic. I talked to London Fletcher, and Griff, and Fred Smoot. DeAngelo, right after we signed him I kinda told him what our plans were, and he says, 'Go get the big guy, that's what we need.' Because if you get a push in the pocket up the middle, the quarterback cannot step up, and then it gives the outside guys a better opportunity to get to the quarterback."

Posted by: TWISI | February 27, 2009 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Let me tell you something:
Joe Gibbs
Darrell Green CB
Art Monk WR
Tim Johnson DT
Charles Mann DE

All were committed Christians.
All were winners.
Three of them are in the HOF!
All were tough as nails.
I hate Dallas but Roger Staubach wasn't tough?

You on the other hand?
You reveal you don't know what a REAL Christian is, and you don't know what it takes to be a real man.
You said, "you need a few thugs"

You are clueless and an idiot!

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | February 27, 2009 9:51 AM |

Yep and they win nothing without thugs like Dexter Manley, Dave Butz, Darryl Grant, Jeff Bostic should I go on.

And I don't give a sh!t what a real christian is, but I'm sure calling someone an idiot makes you one.

Stop crying you little b!tch!!!!!!

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 27, 2009 10:22 AM | Report abuse

"You can't win with a team of chrisitians you need a few thugs."

Name me one thug on Gibb's SB teams please.


also - Name me one, JUST ONE, big $$$ FA we signed at midnight that produced at the level that the money would have justified.

What you scr*tum lickers cannot get around is that this time it is not different!

The Skins always win the offseason and sit at home in the postseason. You have enothing but hope on your side. Excuse me but would you want your company run on hope?

I guarantee you the Cooke's never ran this team on hope. They had a plan that wokred and they executed that plan.

The Danny and Vinny continue to follow a plan THAT HAS FAILED AND HAS NOT PRODUCED!

THAY FAIL TO FOLLOW A PLAN THAT HAS WON AND HAS PRODUCED!

Doing the same thing over and over looking for different results is the definition of stupidity!

Posted by: oldnova | February 27, 2009 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Another terrible signing by the Skins, who continue to overpay for every free agent they can get their hands on. As an Eagles fan I rejoice everytime they do this (usually once or twice a year). 100 million for a 7 year vet? Are his next 7 years expected to be better than the last 7? Highly unlikely. Thanks Dan Snyder, for keeping this team in the bottom of the NFC.

Go Birds.

Posted by: coheneli1 | February 27, 2009 10:23 AM | Report abuse

On Haynesworth's injury history:


"I think last year he missed two games, but they had already clinched the division. So could he have played? Possibly. Did he need to play? No. They just needed to rest for the playoffs. But the thing about it is, when you watch the tape ... the last two years, he's been to the Pro Bowl, he's played outstanding, and I think he's had, what, thirteen sacks the last two years? And I think [Kyle] Vanden Bosch has probably made the Pro Bowl both times because of Albert.

"He's played every year between 55, 60 percent [of the snaps], probably, and we'll have a pretty good rotation in there and he'll line up all over the place. At Tennessee he played some at end in pass rushing and stuff, and he'll do the same here."

Posted by: TWISI | February 27, 2009 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Everybody that keep saying "100 million, 100 million..." doesn't understand the way that NFl contracts work. All we care about is what is guaranteed. Every year the Skins are supposed to be hamstrung by the cap and every year they aren't because of restructuring, etc. Don't pay attn. to the total amount, just the gtd. amount, the signing bonus and the amount they get paid for the next 2 seasons.

If he doesn't produce he won't see 2/3rds of the contract. If he does then we get our money's worth out of Carter, Taylor, and Griff (if he doesn't get cut).

Posted by: BigRich1 | February 27, 2009 10:23 AM | Report abuse

PS: I'm convinced that these new names on here slamming the FO for signing Albert and "ignoring the offense" (free agency just started, lol), all belong to one Hater.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | February 27, 2009 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Sean Taylor trial postponed
Amy Shipley writes:

The trial involving the shooting death of Sean Taylor was again postponed when defense attorneys today asked a Miami state court judge for more time to interview witnesses.
Circuit court Judge Dennis J. Murphy granted the request and put off setting a new trial date until June 9, when he requested reports from the defense on their progress on discovery. Originally scheduled to go to trial last August, the trial date had been re-set for March 9.
Eric Rivera, 18; Jason Scott Mitchell, 21; Charles K. Wardlow, 19; and Timmy Lee Brown, 17; face first-degree murder and armed burglary charges in connection with Taylor’s death. The former Redskins safety died days after Thanksgiving in 2007 after being shot in his Miami home during a botched burglary attempt.
The men appeared in court Friday in red jump suits and handcuffs. Their attorneys told Murphy there were 100 potential witnesses between Miami and Fort Myers, Fla., that had not yet been interviewed. The defendants are from Fort Myers, which is on Florida’s west coast and a drive of about 261/27 hours from Miami.
One of the original defendants,Venjah Hunte, 21, pleaded guilty last year and is expected to testify during trial.

Posted by: CindyBoren | February 27, 2009 10:24 AM | Report abuse

On improving the offense this offseason:

"Well, we'll look at some things here yet in free agency, possibly to help on the offensive side, and we'll look at the draft also. But I think offensively, the biggest improvement's gotta come from the two young receivers and Fred Davis. I think those three ... if those three improve a lot, I think the offense will improve a lot. Because that'll help Santana on the other side, and I think it helps with the run game and stuff. But we'll address the offensive line."

On who was in the running for Hall and Haynesworth:

"I know that DeAngelo had a little bit more that he could've taken from somewhere else, and with Albert -- as was reported on TV by John Clayton -- there were six teams. I mean, he would know better than me. I mean, the agent's not gonna tell me there's six teams but ... there were six teams involved, and involved for a long time [from midnight]. And then I think right towards the end, that it just came down to us and one other team right at the end. And, actually, they offered more money than we did."

Posted by: TWISI | February 27, 2009 10:25 AM | Report abuse

I understand Albert needs to do what's best for him and if that's coming here to Wash and to make more money, he succeeded.

As for the remainder of his career with the Redskins, it will be a waste with this franschise until he leaves or is traded.

I'm a college football diehard fan of the TN Vols, this is a sad day, Albert is now a member of a losing franchise.

Dan Synder continues to try and buy a championship each year with his quick fix player(s) which hasn't worked for him yet. Paying for a championship hasn't worked yet, how about building one.

Again the Redskins hopes of a quick microwave attempt at a championship will be short lived and the owner will buy another quick fix next year.

Posted by: mogreer | February 27, 2009 10:26 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: RedskinRay1
"You are clueless and an idiot!"


That wasn't very christian of you. Jesus died so Hall could be a malcontent in the locker room and Haynesworth could stomp on some guys head.

On a serious note though, because the above was obviously an attempt at humor, I'm not pleased with either signing becuase I prefer to have a championship team full of great role models who can also play football. I don't think either Hall or Haynesworth are good corporate citizens.

Posted by: isnadd | February 27, 2009 10:26 AM | Report abuse

Call me a hater all you'd like, but as a longtime Skins fan, I've seen this story a million times. This new guy that we paid X number of dollars for is suddenly going to save the team. People come to the Redskins to get PAID and not play. They know Snyder is going to pay for them when they are at the top of their game and then they come to the Skins and play mediocre. We hardly try to make the investment in young or up-and-coming players. You think these guys are going to go hard, get hurt, and not be able to enjoy their fat paychecks?! Please. Until Dan Snyder is done as owner, this is the way it is always going to be. Get ready for another mediocre season.

I love my Skins, but damn they sure do know how to piss a guy off.

Posted by: SteadyState | February 27, 2009 10:27 AM | Report abuse

That's $14.2M a year, $892 a game, $223 a quarter......something tells me this is a mistake.

The guy is 28 years old and just happened to play hard this past year he was in a contract year.

Is he really that much of a professional to where he will play 7 years at that level?

Something tells me "no".

Once again Danny and Vinny pulling from the hip and making aggresive and irresponsible moves.

This one will hurt us for a long time- just wait and see.

It kinda reminds me of what Bush has done in office over the years.

Someone needs to help the management of this team.

Redskin fans expect Albert to chip a nail in camp and sit out for half the season.

Shoot wouldn't you if you were making that money!!!

Posted by: pstate11 | February 27, 2009 10:27 AM | Report abuse

New post, somehow it's showing after this one. Springs to be released....

Posted by: DaleHunter | February 27, 2009 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Big Rich1,

The signing bonus was in Ben Roethlisberger territory after he won the SuperBowl as a 2nd year QB.

Tell me if you think that is comparable.

This signing has laready hamstrung our capacity to get some O-linemen today. It will be interesting to see if we can land Dockery, but between him, Jason Brown, the Ray Willis guy and several others, we could have passed on Haynesnotworthit and looked to build up the part of this team that is TRULY an area of need.

Posted by: p1funk | February 27, 2009 10:29 AM | Report abuse

It looks like they are keeping this post at the top but there have been two new posts since. Move along. There's nothing else to see here.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | February 27, 2009 10:30 AM | Report abuse

$75 parking and $32 beers coming to a stadium near you....

Posted by: CHICO13 | February 27, 2009 10:31 AM | Report abuse

RR1, I guess maybe you are a christian??? Why do they get so angry so easily? I thought being deeply religious was supposed to make one more at peace with the world around them and life in general??? I guesss its overated...

Posted by: VaBeachBlitz | February 27, 2009 9:56 AM
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The comment was made you can't win w/ Christians, you need a few thugs.


I demonstrated the comment is quite inaccurate as even Redskin history demonstrates [Gibbs, Monk, Green, Johnson, Mann].
The comment was thus made in pure ignorance.
Now, the charge is returned by VABeachblitz, that I must not be one because I was upset.

Notice folks the changing of the point.
The assumption made was clearly a false assumption. It truly revealed an ignorance ignoring the ALREADY PROVEN FACT that a man can be a Christian and be a stand-up man who is tough as nails and be a Hall of Fame player and coach.

Notice how VABEACHBLITZ attempts to persuade others that I am upset by pointing out the ignorance of the earlier statement.

This is called an ad hominem argument.
I have demonstrated the ignorance of the assumption and yet I get charged w/ being upset.

1. I am not upset. I am quite secure in what I said, because that ignorance is quite easily refutable and all who know Redskin history know I demonstrated his ignorance of actual history.

2. Just because you say I am upset does not mean I am upset.

3. And if I were upset, that would not necessarily be a sin either. There are some things we as human beings are to love and therefore hate. So again, you come up empty.

Lastly, isn't it interesting how I can be charged by VAbeachblizt w/ being upset [when I am not] and he does not care to charge an an ignorant one who thinks it a good idea to get some thugs?

What does this reveal to us about the mind and passions of VABeachBlitz?

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | February 27, 2009 10:31 AM | Report abuse

In my opinion, it is important to get as much value out of one position as possible. Whats the point of having two players on the field doing what 1 can, it is simple efficient thinking. Big money, but with about 30 mil coming in the next year, it wont be that big of a hit for the subsequent years. What this does is instantly improve Taylor and Carter because the pocket will have to be tighter for Albert, and they will have an easier time getting around the edge. It makes the linebackers better because they have 1 less lineman to deal with. It also allows us to draft a linebacker if we chose. The DBs will have to cover recievers for a shorter period of time, leading to tighter coverage and more turnovers.The offense will improve now that we can worry about improving that side of the ball in the draft. They will also benefit from better defensive performance and field position from turnovers. If we draft a linebacker this year in round one, we have taken care of every position on defense for a long time.

Posted by: DaFunBunch | February 27, 2009 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Flounder 21 Jesus was a Catholic first remember. He was later coopted by you Protestants.

I take a team of Riggo's over born agains anyday!

Have any of Danny Boy's big time free agent signings ever worked out!

Posted by: sheepherder | February 27, 2009 10:32 AM | Report abuse

New post, somehow it's showing after this one. Springs to be released....

Posted by: DaleHunter


Please let this be true!

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | February 27, 2009 10:32 AM | Report abuse

It all comes down to LG, IF they sign Dockery or put a package together to get into the second round and get a top guard then I'm fine with this move. I really wanted Canty, but there is no guarantee he'd be a great fit either, they chose to go with the more prolific of the two, tough to make a convincing argument either way. The only way this is a bad move is if they bring back Kendall and late rounders behind him. If they get Dockery and/or make a move to get a top guard in the draft along with a RT at 13, then this was a great offseason. LBs are easy to find especially with a starting DT tandem of Griffen and Haynesworth, and now Carter and Taylor will face nothing but single blockers and our blitzers will be coming free everytime so I'm happy with that, they addressed the pressure issue, albeit in the highest risk biggest money way but they did it. BUT if their only plan is a 38 year old and late rounders on the interior of the line or they do anything but pick a RT at 13 then they return to the stupidest FO ever.

Posted by: zjfr2 | February 27, 2009 10:34 AM | Report abuse

1. I am not upset. I am quite secure in what I said, because that ignorance is quite easily refutable and all who know Redskin history know I demonstrated his ignorance of actual history.

2. Just because you say I am upset does not mean I am upset.

3. And if I were upset, that would not necessarily be a sin either. There are some things we as human beings are to love and therefore hate. So again, you come up empty.

Lastly, isn't it interesting how I can be charged by VAbeachblizt w/ being upset [when I am not] and he does not care to charge an an ignorant one who thinks it a good idea to get some thugs?

What does this reveal to us about the mind and passions of VABeachBlitz?

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | February 27, 2009 10:31 AM |

I proved you wrong by letting you know that those guys by themselves don't win anything, without a few players who are thugs on the field.

AH is a thug on the field, show me were he has been a thug off the field.

And P1,

The Warner comment is funny he is a true Christian 10-12mil is not enough he needs 12-14mil, and he is trying to swindle other teams to up the bidding for him so he can stay in Arizona.

I'm sure he is going to give most of that money to the church, Yeh right.

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 27, 2009 10:39 AM | Report abuse

In big business, it pays to be aggressive. A lot of times you can beat your competition through sheer boldness. Quick decisive action, that's what they learn in the business big leagues.

Along with the lesson that all mistakes are ultimately forgiveable, providing you end up with the most money at the end...

Two principles which serve the Danster well in the corporate world and may be his undoing in the more ordered world of the NFL.

Jerry Jones once explained the difference between him and Jimmy Johnson as a different set of rules. Give him a copy of the rules, Jerry told the media, and Jimmy will figure out how to beat you. But in Jerry's world, the rules were more fluid. If you found a shortcut and took it, and didn't get caught, then you were home free.

That's also the world Snyder lives in. No replays, no refs, no NFL films recording every minute of every day for posterity.

But that's not how you build an NFL franchise that becomes successful and stays that way, season after season, and hopefully, from decade to decade.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 27, 2009 10:40 AM | Report abuse

I never understand why so many people think that Samuels is washed-up. The truth is that the vast majority of teams in the NFL wish that had an LT like him. Fans around the country love to crucify their LTs every time they get beat for a sack (*see J. Gross a year and a half ago) and they all think that the guys on other teams (who they don't get to critique every week) are soooo much better.

Most fans don't care about how many times Samuels pancakes D. Ware on running plays, they just wait for the sack on 3rd and long that they can attack.

The only fair point made about him is that his body is wearing down. It would help him reduce the wear of the season if the team shores-up the rest of the line and can mix-up their blocking schemes. Especially not going left on 90% of their running plays.

Posted by: SportzWiz | February 27, 2009 10:41 AM | Report abuse

sheepherder: "Flounder 21 Jesus was a Catholic first remember. He was later coopted by you Protestants."

What?? Jesus was a Jew!!!

Posted by: Samson151 | February 27, 2009 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Lets think outside the box for once: we all know we need O-Line help- but why get a big name? O-line is about cohesiveness as a unit and good COACHING- lets get a couple solid team players (no big names).. but I would go after Muaualuga (USC)- great athlete, great person, hard-worker; someone we won't see at a club on New York Ave on weekends..defensive wins championships (proven again this yr at the superbowl)

Posted by: be7123 | February 27, 2009 10:43 AM | Report abuse

lol.... Some people are acting as if it were THEIR $100 million being spent.

The salary cap - as it exists today - is not an arbitrary situation. Owners - not just Dan Snyder - have shown that with some creative accounting, especially via restructured contracts, you can have you cake and eat it too.

Don't worry. There will be no problem signing Dockery, Willis, Orakpo or others - if they want to be here. Shifting money around is the way owners who aren't afraid to spend get the players they want.

And if JKC were still running the show, he'd be doing the same thing, "dear boy."

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | February 27, 2009 10:46 AM | Report abuse

My thoughts on this move and steal part of a quote Shaquille O'Neal...."The signing of Haynesworth for $100million is the most horri-awful thing the Redskins could have done." Haynesworth may be end up playing great, though players not named Brady, Tom or Manning, Peyton should sniff this kind of money. Lord knows Griff cant stay healthy. Say Haynesworth plays more like the original Fat Albert or gets hurt, who do we turn to at DT, Ryan Boschetti?

Posted by: jperkmd82 | February 27, 2009 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Here in Nashville, I breathed a huge sigh of relief this morning - and the Titans HAD the cap room to sign him. When you look at Albert's record: (a) he is an amazing talent (b)he is injury prone and (c) he underachieves unless he is playing during a contract year. People thought the Titans were crazy to let Travis Henry go, but look how that worked out. Players don't change their spots.

Posted by: eddie27 | February 27, 2009 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Of the free agents that Abbott and Costellos signed in the past, which have gave the Skins a full season? Oh, I forgot about these guys Archuletta, Springs, Taylor, B.Smith,& D.Sanders. 2009: Haynesworth 5 games and Hall 7 games both out with a cold. Hey Abbott at least you can sale some jerseys while their on the sidelines!!!

Posted by: leetn | February 27, 2009 10:48 AM | Report abuse

one more thing, our O-line problems have more to do with our protection schemes and "west coast" offensive than our personnel... I guarantee if our O-line switch teams- they will be solid players.

Posted by: be7123 | February 27, 2009 10:48 AM | Report abuse

There are only a certain number of human beings who have the size, weight, and quickness to be an elite OT in the NFL. You can't coach the ability to be 6'6", 330, and still be quick enough to block a speed rusher on the outside.

Posted by: saltydog75 | February 27, 2009 10:48 AM | Report abuse

Yep and they win nothing without thugs like Dexter Manley, Dave Butz, Darryl Grant, Jeff Bostic should I go on.

And I don't give a sh!t what a real christian is, but I'm sure calling someone an idiot makes you one.

Stop crying you little b!tch!!!!!!

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 27, 2009 10:22 AM


Manley, as I recall had problems but he did not upset the locker room or draw flags for being stupid like AH. Manley played like the team came first! And it is pretty obvious you do not know about Dexter's current situation - he is teaching kids about the dangers of chemical abuse.

Flounder - As for the rest of the men you speak of... RR is right - you are a clueless idot. They were/are all class acts.

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Posted by: oldnova | February 27, 2009 10:49 AM | Report abuse

I proved you wrong by letting you know that those guys by themselves don't win anything, without a few players who are thugs on the field.

AH is a thug on the field, show me were he has been a thug off the field.
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Hello Flounder,
I think you and I might need to backtrack a bit.
"You can't win with a team of chrisitians you need a few thugs."

a. I never said or implied that all christians are winners.

b. I never said or implied that thugs are not good football players

c. What I DID say was that this franchise had some great players and coaches who were tough as nails, and proved in their lives to be committed Christians.

But you tell me, which one do you and your wife want as your neighbors living next door to you?
Darrell Green, Art Monk or Albert Haynesworth, PacMan Jones?

Fair enough?

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | February 27, 2009 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Dexter attributes his strength and ability to overcome, to his relationship with God. He has vowed never to go back, but by giving back he can help others avoid the heartache and destruction of such a life that appears on the surface as "what its all about" but shows itself as a demon that controls every facet of your life. Through Dexter's TEAM, they are forming a team of contributors and charities, that are designed to help transform lives and avoid the hardships that befall so many. By joining these two aspects, contributors and charities as one, the TEAM, makes it possible so that Together Each person and charity alike Achieves More.

Posted by: oldnova | February 27, 2009 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Repeat after me...

The definition of insanity.

Repeat after me...

Posted by: SoCal_SkinsFan | February 27, 2009 10:58 AM | Report abuse

We just paid gillions to a guy whose pre-2008 career average was 2.5 sacks.

We got the same production out of guys we haqve now for much less money...

Posted by: oldnova | February 27, 2009 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Does Albert improve our team?

YES
YES
YES
YES
YES
YES
sorry don't have time to finish....

Thats all you have to ask yourself.

Relax and wait for the other FA to come

Posted by: 1skinfan | February 27, 2009 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Flounder, the only thing you proved, and you prove it with every post, is that you are a clueless idiot.


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Posted by: oldnova | February 27, 2009 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Excellent news. This way, under the Obama plan, the American taxpayer will actually get $50,000,000 over 7 years from this guy.

Whooo hooooo

Posted by: bandmom22 | February 27, 2009 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Wow...JLC on ESPN right now! We are back in the bigtime, baby!

Must be really booooooring being a Giants fan or a Patriots fan or a Steelers fan or a Colts fan during free-agency. Nothing to talk about. NO national love for their beat writers.

Of course, they all have those shiny, silver footballs to play with at the END OF THE SEASON.

Is ANYONE paying attention in the front office??? Really?

Posted by: SoCal_SkinsFan | February 27, 2009 11:07 AM | Report abuse

$100 million for a 28-year-old Fat Albert who never did jack except in contract years. Except, of course, stomping faces and missing games.

Little Danny has never learned a DAMN THING.

Even though he's a great talent, he's a character risk, injury risk, and a lazy "I got my payday" risk. Even worse, the $100 million they're paying him could have been about FIVE really solid starters.

Screwed again.

Posted by: diesel_skins_ | February 27, 2009 11:10 AM | Report abuse

This guy is going to turn our defense from 4th overall last year to absolutely dominating this year. We are going to now have that ferocity that Pittsburgh and Baltimore have and that makes other teams offenses want to stay on the sidelines. He opens up everything,always drawing at least a double team. Just ask Eli, Donovan, and Tony if they think it was a good sign. The days of jumping up in the pocket and burning us are over. And, I heard Albert speak on Tuesday when I told my boy Zeebs we would be signing this guy. He said it wasnt about the money, it's about being the best player ever at his position. Seemed sincere, time will tell.

Posted by: Skins281 | February 27, 2009 11:13 AM | Report abuse

SYNDER GOT TO BE THE DUMBEST OWNER IN THE NFL! 100$ MILLON FOR FAT ALBERT. LOL!!!!!!!! DO AL DAVIS AND DAN SYNDER DRINK THE SAME KOOL-AID.

Posted by: eccentricbeethoven1 | February 27, 2009 11:13 AM | Report abuse

+++DUDE WHEN IS THE LAST TIME THE REDSKINS HAD A GAME CHANGING DT!!!I

Posted by: all_this_bs +++

His name was Stubblefield, fans like you were excited to sign him, Snyder overpaid, and he was a lazy, out-of-shape bust. Next question.


Posted by: TheCork | February 27, 2009 11:14 AM | Report abuse

We just paid gillions to a guy whose pre-2008 career average was 2.5 sacks.

We got the same production out of guys we haqve now for much less money...

Posted by: oldnova
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Sacks aren't the only thing with a DT. If a dominant DT occupies two or three blockers, that frees up the DE's or LB's to get sacks. So if we see JT or AC with double digit sacks this year, a lot of those are going to be attributable to AH pushing the pocking and occupying blockers.

And then there's the run game. Stopping the run is huge in the NFC East, and AH will definitely help there too.

I can see how the deal can be criticized, but there's no doubt this team has needed this type of player for a long time - a huge body at DT who can compress the pocket. Maybe we overpaid, and maybe AH will take his money and get soft, but there just aren't many guys like him around. I can't fault the Skins for jumping on one when he's available. Aside from BJ Raji, you're probably not going to get one in the draft.

Posted by: saltydog75 | February 27, 2009 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Signing Haynesworth is fantastic, I just didn't think they could pull it off under the cap. NFL Network guys were saying that Blache can handle Haynesworth and keep him from get fat and lazy.

Also liked DeAngelo Hall signing. Now we can cover man-for-man and we have one cornerback who can catch interceptions.

Glad its not my money the Redskins are throwing around, but if I was a player, I'd be thrilled to be getting on Danny's jet and cashing Danny's checks!

It appears that Dockery wants more money than the Redskins have left. That leaves Brown (Ravens) or Willis (SeaDogs) as far as signing an OL goes.

We still need a strong-side linebacker. Angelo Crowell? Orakpo? Derrick Brooks (can he move to the strong side and still be effective)? Vilma (can he move outside)? Fincher?

Posted by: rb-freedom-for-all | February 27, 2009 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Who cares how much money he's making? I mean, yeah, it's an sjk-ton amount of cash but when's the last time we haven't been able to sign someone in FA with creative accounting? Everyone always says we'll never have the money and we always seem to find it in the couch cushions. I'm not really sweating the contracts.

Maybe AH comes into camp and ends up like Stubblefield. Or maybe he's a friggin' beast like he was the last two years. We just don't know what's going to happen so why act like we can predict the future?

We as fans have been lamenting the fact that our Dline hasn't had a proven game-changer in forever and we FINALLY got some help that's on the right side of 30! If AH is getting double-teamed then the the pressure is off Griff and maybe he won't be hurt as often. And it sure frees up Carter and Taylor to make plays.

Be happy, people! Wait until there's a reason to think this signing is a mistake.

Posted by: countystyle | February 27, 2009 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Congratulations to the Washington Redskins for negotiating the 2009 quarterback slot with Michael Vick and Donovan McNabb to jumpstart our offense.

Posted by: dwashington1 | February 27, 2009 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Sometimes I think Snyder might be finally getting it. Then he pulls a move like this. We overpaid for another injury prone, bad character guy, who had one great year in a contract year.

Way to screw up our salary cap for the next decade and continue to avoid placing any real value on buidling a team through the draft . . .

Wasn't offense the problem with this team? Yet we overpay for both Hall and Haynesworth. With the crap of an o-line we have, the dumb a$$ receivers, and prima-donna Portis, we'll be lucky to win 8 next year.

Posted by: littlejohn6971 | February 27, 2009 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Congratulations to the Washington Redskins for negotiating the 2009 quarterback slot with Michael Vick and Donovan McNabb to jumpstart our offense.

Excellent move for changing our face mask from canary yellow to Redskins burgundy to generate toughness.

The Redskins will no longer be the only team in football with a canary yellow face mask.

Donovan McNabb or Michael Vick will be a great boost to Redskins' offense.

Posted by: dwashington1 | February 27, 2009 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Redskins Quarterback Donovan McNabb or Michael Vick

Congratulations to the Washington Redskins for negotiating the 2009 quarterback slot with Michael Vick and Donovan McNabb to jumpstart our offense.

Excellent move for changing our face mask from canary yellow to Redskins burgundy to generate toughness.

The Redskins will no longer be the only team in football with a canary yellow face mask.

Donovan McNabb or Michael Vick will be a great boost to Redskins' offense.

Posted by: dwashington1 | February 27, 2009 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Wow. Wait till we get our Haynes on you! Congratulations to the Washington Redskins, on both and what could be a tri-facta signing today or Sat!!!!

We can do a lot of good things with the shifting of the rotational players, Griffin, and Carter now. Leaving JT, LF, Rocky and LL to be the explosions we knew they could be. Freeing some more cap room, brings in a young Vet WR, AFTER we nail an OL off of FA.

HAIL!

Posted by: kurtbw | February 27, 2009 11:26 AM | Report abuse

M-A-U-A-L-U-G-A
This move will ONLY make sense if we get a fast, young linebacker to work behind our new D-line.

Posted by: be7123 | February 27, 2009 11:26 AM | Report abuse

YOU KNOW YOU LADIES DRIVE ME NUTS YOU ALL HAVE THE SAME B.S TO TALK ABOUT OH HAYNESWORTH IS A GOOD PLAYER BUT NOT WORTH 100 MILLION AND NEXT 5 YEARS OF CAP HELL. WHICH YOU SAY WE HAVE BEEN DOIN FOR YEARS PUTTIN OURSELVES IN CAP H*LL BUT WEAR IS THIS CAP H*LLL YOU KEEP TALKIN ABOUT. I HAVE NEVER SEEN IT YEAR AFTER YEAR WE ARE ABLE TO LAND WHO EVER WE WANT AND NOT THINK TWICE SO THERE HAS NEVER BEEN ANY CAP H*LL CAUSE YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN SAYIN WE PUT OURSELVES INTO IT FOR YEARS AND IT HAS NEVER HIT US SO NEXT YEAR AND THE YEAR AFTER AND THE YEAR AFTER IT STILL WONT HIT WE WILL STILL SIGN WHO WE WANT WHEN WE WANT AND SALARY CAP ONLY PERTAINS TO THE OTHER 31 TEAMS IN THE LEAGUE HAVE ANY OF YOU ACTUALLY PAID ATTENTION TO THIS TEAM THE LAST DECADE

Posted by: all_this_bs | February 27, 2009 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Winning the offseason is great but when has it every led to winning the Super Bowl? Snyder gets credit for the effort and dollars to bring players here. Is he ever going to learn that not how you win a championship or even have long term succes?
Maybe this year will be different.

Posted by: gregsky | February 27, 2009 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Haynesworth is a great defensive player, HOWEVER everything that glitter ain't gold; He has a bad attitude, he stay hurt all the time, and he racks up fines by the truckloadS. The Titans, including Titans fans like myself, feel the same way about him being gone as we did about Pacman Jones, GOOD RIDDENS!

Posted by: stillrealbill | February 27, 2009 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Man...this is a team game, they have so many NEEDS IN EVERY POSITION! how can they do this without getting the players for the OL. Campbell is going to have another long season. I don't think anything going to change this season.

Posted by: sihanat@hotmail.com | February 27, 2009 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Two bad character guys for 155 million. Danny is a freakin genius! I'm sure there were at least 5 teams waiting to pay hanyesworth 100 million. NOT!!!!

I guess he's failed so much that maybe one of these picks will work out but I hope not.

Go Ravens!!!

Posted by: jdb70 | February 27, 2009 11:36 AM | Report abuse

"Wait until there's a reason to think this signing is a mistake"?

OK, here's a reason: the $100 m ($41 m guaranteed) that they're sinking into Fat Albert could be used on about 5 other players. He'll be paid so much more than anyone in the locker room that any time he takes a play off, every other player will think he can take two off. And Fat Albert takes a LOT of plays off.

Posted by: diesel_skins_ | February 27, 2009 11:37 AM | Report abuse

FYI, that's "riddance", Buckwheat.

In regard to Haynesworth... well I say you just can't spend enough for a guy that's proven his ability to stomp on the Dallas Cowf*kkers.

Posted by: chasgiffen | February 27, 2009 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Does this mean that the $8 beer will now cost $12?

Posted by: nosurprise2me | February 27, 2009 11:40 AM | Report abuse

That is stupid. Paying that much money to a football player. Come on, what a waste of money. It won't help the Redskins anyway, they suck.

Posted by: Classic60 | February 27, 2009 11:44 AM | Report abuse

RB-FREEDOM-FOR-ALL said:

"Signing Haynesworth is fantastic, I just didn't think they could pull it off under the cap. NFL Network guys were saying that Blache can handle Haynesworth and keep him from get fat and lazy.

Also liked DeAngelo Hall signing. Now we can cover man-for-man and we have one cornerback who can catch interceptions.

Glad its not my money the Redskins are throwing around, but if I was a player, I'd be thrilled to be getting on Danny's jet and cashing Danny's checks!

It appears that Dockery wants more money than the Redskins have left. That leaves Brown (Ravens) or Willis (SeaDogs) as far as signing an OL goes.

We still need a strong-side linebacker. Angelo Crowell? Orakpo? Derrick Brooks (can he move to the strong side and still be effective)? Vilma (can he move outside)? Fincher?"

RB, I like the Brooks idea, but like Haynesworth, he will come with a hefty price, because he more than likely feels he can still bring it effectively at a higher level than most. Well I agree that Strong Side is his better move. I just don't think this would materialize.

Crowell maybe.

Posted by: kurtbw | February 27, 2009 11:44 AM | Report abuse

I'll just say this. Been there done that. And with each one has come a lot of hype and disappointment. For that kinda money ya'll better win 2009-2013. Not almost. Not could have but.. Not if it wasn't for... Not next season we... If you don't Synder won't be the only laughing stock of the NFL. The skins fans who will waste their money on increased ticket sales, whatever creative way Snyder can think of having YOU to pay. Obviously Snyder and the Skins fans are still caught in their same OLD ways, while the rest of the country has moved on to CHANGE!!!

One last thing. For all the posters bragging to the supposed haters, guess what. We all 0-0 baby. Moss didn't guarantee the Patriots a Super Bowl and neither does Haynesworth no matter who he plays for. LMAO!!!

Posted by: bbg_isback | February 27, 2009 11:46 AM | Report abuse

All you need now is an NFL qb!

Posted by: jtcmd | February 27, 2009 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Well, one thing's for sure. If our new DT plays a dozen games or more next year, Mr London Fletcher will waltz into his first Pro Bowl. Maybe without even getting his jersey dirty.

Posted by: stevebeagrie | February 27, 2009 11:49 AM | Report abuse

wish list~ GENERAL MANAGER!!!!!!!!

Posted by: eccentricbeethoven1 | February 27, 2009 11:50 AM | Report abuse

We're going to the Super Bowl!

Posted by: beenthere3 | February 27, 2009 11:56 AM | Report abuse

This does not surprise me one bit.... Boy wonder and suck up took heat for keeping all of their 10 draft picks last year with only Horton being a blessing, in terms of a contributor. Look, I am a die hard skins fan but I refuse to drink the cool-aid.... Lets look at the track record.... Dana Stubs, good ole gilbert, griffin, smith, sanders, carter, taylor.... we seem to be the playing the bell curve with carreers here! I could think of a few postions we could of filled with a $100mil. We were a good run stop team and that what Blache scheme is built around. We need rushers and O-line depth. We barely blitz so teams can double up haynesworth...who do we have proven to rush the passer???? NOBODY! AS a fan, I hope it works out but I am siding with track record with napolean and his right hand ass kisser! BTW, can we get more commentators to cover the skins besides Seacrest of the skins (Larry Michael)... he is almost as bad of a yes boy, redskins cheerleader, as cerrato is :)

Posted by: rvanags | February 27, 2009 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Kool-aid drinkers galore. This blog has 'um all!!!! EVANS and SPRINGS two consumate professional football players all but gone because of these two moves in FA. This is NOT the way to build a successful team.

Yes, IF HAYNESWORTH and HALL play as they did when they were young, the REDSKINS get a double coup. I don't see it however. $$$$ take the edge off most experienced players. Besides its a tacit admission that the staff can't draft excellent players without experience. Just look at last year. Of course you've got to have picks in order to screw them up.

But flagging sales may be on the uptick with these two big name FA's leading the way despite the cutting of 30 front office personnel. To me, we stay in the 10-6 or 8-8 range. Maybe one or two year's quality production. Depends on how much pride these two have in their craft, I suppose. They're certainly needed on defense. However, I'll become a believer when I see positive results on the field.

So this means we keep the one-dimensional DE, the recovering knee injury, AND the former dance-master hoping against hope that EVANS will not be missed? Overvalue the wrong players and undervalue the right ones. Plueeze.

Once again teams will rush between the tackles and ends assuming that the REDSKIN OLB's remain as weak as they were in 2008. Oh, and we draft #13 OLB I assume, while praying that somehow that weak offensive line improves this coming year with #3, #5, and #6 round picks.

But wait. Let me tell you how I really feel about this FA-WIN NOW strategy......OMG where's JACK KENT COOKE when you need him? Smacks of GEORGE PRESTON MARSHALL. LATER.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 27, 2009 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Let's agree on a few groundrules before everyone thinks this vindicates 10 years of overall sub .500 ball with the Danny in charge.
1) We've seen this movie before -- who thinks the Skins locker room is a great place to bring a DT who has underachieved before this year?
2) If the Skins don't make the playoffs this upcoming year, will everyone lay the blame exactly where it belongs? Can we put to rest the "debate" about whether or not this front office is making the right moves, despite 10 years with an overall record under .500?

Boy, I hope Haynesworth becomes the 2nd coming of Dave Butz, but if the Skins get our hopes up yet again, only to dash them on the rocks of organizational incompetence, we are the Butz who need to get a clue.

Posted by: positiveforce | February 27, 2009 12:12 PM | Report abuse

isnadd wrote:
"That wasn't very christian of you. Jesus died so Hall could be a malcontent in the locker room and Haynesworth could stomp on some guys head."

Dude, Haynesworth stomped on a COWBOY'S coconut, not just "some guy". Don't think of him as a bad guy, more like the Archangel Michael.

And Hall was a malcontent on the Raiders. The Raiders! Jesus F. Christ himself would sit out rather than play for Al "Beelzebub" Davis.

So, Hall is practicing WWJD while in Oakland, and Haynesworth is treating Dallas players like the nest of vipers that they are. Who says they're not good Christians?

by the way rvanags... the Redskins blitzed more than any other team last year. The reason you think they didn't is that the blitz got picked up a lot. We're going to see a lot more guys -- like #30 -- coming free on a blitz next year. Look out Tony Oh-no!

Posted by: dpc2003 | February 27, 2009 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Um, hey RedskinRay1... Maybe you should stay on topic.
Jeezus H, son. I sprouted wood just reading that.

Anyway, Snyderatto def know how to put butts in the seats!

Posted by: fargincorksucker | February 27, 2009 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Hall will be 26 in November. Haynesworth will be 28 in June. These guys aren't old and can be building blocks. And yes, I looked up the ages this time so I wouldn't screw up like I did with LFB before.

Posted by: countystyle | February 27, 2009 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Why do you people care how Dan Snyder spends his money? Do you have to pay more to watch the Skins on TV?

Posted by: spidey103 | February 27, 2009 12:30 PM | Report abuse

I am sure those employees fired by the Redskins earlier are glad they could help getting this player. They are happy the Redskins could now afford to get the highest paid defensive linemen after their salaries were eliminated.

Posted by: MD_Alum | February 27, 2009 12:31 PM | Report abuse

While i no doubt understand the frustration of the signing( AH MAY get , unmotivated etc., SEE BUBBLEFIELD, I GET IT), lets please remember we ARE NOT WINNING ANYTHING this year or next!! We can build the oline over the next couple years. And dont say we wont have the cap money to do it, we didnt have the money this year either but it got done!!!!!! But optomistically, AH and HAll are rocks for the D for years to come

Posted by: jefferboy | February 27, 2009 12:34 PM | Report abuse

It is Danny's team and he can run into the ground any way he sees fit. All you fools need to do is keeping overpaying your $$$$ for tix and "star" jerseys in these tough economic times. Enjoy your off-season victories ... they are certainly easier to achieve than playoff victories.

Posted by: loux24 | February 27, 2009 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Excuse me! They're going to pay him, how much. With the economy all messed up, I think all sports teams should be taking pay cuts. How can a team put out that kind of money, when there are people losing their jobs, homes and ending up on the street. Shame on you, Redskins.

Posted by: whitcraftm | February 27, 2009 12:53 PM | Report abuse

He'll be injured during spring training, then sit out for 10 - 12 games.

Bank on it.

Posted by: MyUselessOpinionIsBetterThanYourUselessOpinion | February 27, 2009 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Haynesworth is an enticing player. Would you give up Shawn Springs with great cover skills, Chris Canty a young strong 2nd best DT available, Derrick Dockery a beast on the offensive line, probably a healthy Jason Taylor and possibly a shot at another OL or DL for Haynesworth? Will he play 16 games? Will he indeed get hurt or fat? What do we have if he does go south? Its a big risk, hope he works!!!

Posted by: 1bmffwb | February 27, 2009 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Seems as if I heard the same type of stuff before. Have any of you heard of:

Bruce Smith
Jeff George
Deion Sanders

These guys came in with big money and grand expectations and sucked. Yeah, they were at the end of their careers; but, I think Snyder, and countless other professional sports team owners, have proven that you CANNOT buy a championship.

I will sit back and hope for the best, but not be shocked when I see the worst.

Posted by: democratus | February 27, 2009 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Big Daddy Wilkinson or Dana Stubblefield part 2? Lord knows that people always play HARD when they get that Redskins money, huh?

Posted by: rls1188 | February 27, 2009 1:18 PM | Report abuse

all_this_bs. The Skins have made the playoffs 3 times in the last 16 years. Seriously. Who cares about the cap or any of this stuff? Why don't you spend more time concerning yourself with "actual playoff wins" and less time patting this team on the back for nearly two decades of mediocrity?

Posted by: rls1188 | February 27, 2009 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, Danny is a big spender. No doubt he wants to win. But he doesn't have much to show for all his big spending, does he? And by the way, that's OUR money he's been wasting on the likes of Lloyd, Archuleta, etc.

Posted by: abrockway | February 27, 2009 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Dear Mr Snyder,

As a born and raised Redskins fan let me be the first to congratulate you and the organization for making such a bold offseason, free agency move.

They way I figure it, provided he stays healthy and gives 100%, Albert Haynesworth will be making approximately $1,000,000 per tackle next year.

And being the true and caring fan that I am, I also know that there are other positions on the team which need new and talented blood.

So, I have a suggestion…

Let me be the first to provide you an excellent choice. He is a team leader, has proven experience as both TE, and Safety; is willing to move inside on the offensive line to help out at Guard or Tackle; and even has a good enough arm to have gotten some work as a 2nd string QB. This person will give 100% effort every single play, of every single game, and, heck, even every single practice. In fact he is even willing to play on both offense and defense in order to give you and the organization the biggest bang for the buck.

Yes, that person would be me!

And lets not forget about the all important media attention and image that I will bring to the organization. I am a dedicated family man, have been married for over 20 years – to the same woman, and I have never been in trouble with the law, been inappropriately photographed, or been accused of taking illegal drugs or being a candidate for an anger management program.

Now this by no means that I am dull or boring!

In fact, I promise to make multiple highlight reels on both the local and national sports channels including ESPN. Yes, you, Vinni, and 80,000 screaming fans will shake your heads in disbelieve as I make move after unbelievably enthusiastic football move. My body will be flying all over the field trying to make tackles, block huge, powerful charging linemen and diving into the dirt to catch every ball tossed my way.

In fact, I would gladly do this for you, Vinni, and all sports fans around the world. And all it would cost you is $1,000,000 per tackle or catch.

I’m sure I’d be able to make at least one of those during the season….

Posted by: FumbledReturns | February 27, 2009 1:28 PM | Report abuse

I think this is the guy who "stompted" on another player's head last season during a game. Just the kind of fine sportsman we need. What a role model for the kids. Just another big splash loser.

Posted by: gk4152 | February 27, 2009 1:32 PM | Report abuse

While the economy is in crisis and many people are without a job, it's a SHAME to paid that amount of money to someone who actually doesn not PRODUCE anything.

We need to change this culture. Let's stop glorifying brute force in men and beauty in cheer leaders.

Boycott football!

Posted by: bravo2 | February 27, 2009 1:43 PM | Report abuse

LOL, you chumps are still fourth in your own division.

Posted by: monsterjoe | February 27, 2009 1:46 PM | Report abuse


What a freaking joke that move was. Why would you sign a player to such a huge deal. All he does is make tackles, he doesn't throw the ball, catch, run intercept, he isn't even a leader on the defense, that usually goes to the middle linebacker, so why the hell are you paying that much?!?

You know, I don't think Vinny has any idea on how to evaluate players in the draft, that's why he goes after the big names in the NFL. that way it'll fool the idiot skins fans into believing he knows what he's doing. Yea he got Horton, but that was pure luck.

The skins will have another poor season, they wasted so much money on 1 player that they won't have enough to feel the needed position with quality players, like the O-line, receiver and linebacker.

Posted by: rcnasa | February 27, 2009 1:57 PM | Report abuse

well, this time i like the moves with haynesworth and definitely angelo hall....

i just hope they pan out.....

now if we can get dockery, the o-linmean from seattle, and the center from baltimore, we could re-shape the whole o-line....

then we draft the pass rusher from texas.....

but here is my stunner of an opinion...

the best player in the draft is percy harvin from florida...DRAFT HIM!

he is a triple threat on the field at all times.....

put him at running back behind the new o-line,

or throw him a pass out of the backfield,

or line him up at wide receiver....he can beat any defensive player on the field....

and he can run back kickoffs and punts.....

he can even run the wildcat formation for you like he did at florida...

now that we have upgraded our defensive ...we have 4 draft picks to add more defensive help and we could sign derrick brooks or cato june at linebacker,

but, .....

.....please, please, please DRAFT PERCY HARVIN!


Posted by: docdwb | February 27, 2009 2:17 PM | Report abuse

"The signing of Haynesworth is designed to shore up a Redskins pass rush that was 28th in the league last season. Haynesworth had a career-high 8.5 sacks last season, a remarkable number for an interior lineman."

You see, there's the problem with this signing, Haynesworth is a RUN STOPPER, not a PASS RUSHER! These guys really need somebody who understands football... and the value of a dollar, or 100 Million of them!

Posted by: 82AllAmericans | February 27, 2009 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Best DT in the league? Remember Dana Stubblefield? How did that work out?

Posted by: hokiepokster92 | February 27, 2009 2:22 PM | Report abuse

When is Washington's football team going to change its name to one less offensive to Native Americans?

Posted by: Bitter_Bill | February 27, 2009 2:31 PM | Report abuse

This is stupid Redskin's will get hosed over this and does anyone know the economy sux maybe Albert will use the money to learn how to speak english. I love sports but sick of what these guys make we do wind up paying for it and I am sick of it no more tix for me

Posted by: lildg54 | February 27, 2009 2:41 PM | Report abuse

So dumb - this guy has been in the league and never ever played 16 games a season - one year 14 games, one year, 12, one year 8.

the redskins and management get fooled again!

GO COWBOYS!

Posted by: Woodbridge45 | February 27, 2009 2:42 PM | Report abuse

M-A-U-A-L-U-G-A

Anyone who watches Redskins football closely knows that Fred Davis is the future star of this team... we need to draft USC players and get a winning attitude in the locker room; D Hall and A Haynesworth have NOT won at every level they have played- in fact, they have been on arguebly underachieving teams in college (U Tenn recently and V Tech 3-4 yrs ago) and the pros (Titans- playoff disaster!) We need winners not BIG names from losing teams.

Posted by: be7123 | February 27, 2009 2:43 PM | Report abuse

once again....a laughing stock of NFL....
what's next? how about drafting a punter from Jefferson HS with 1st round pick?

Posted by: imageClass | February 27, 2009 2:53 PM | Report abuse

wonderful. another volunteer to help pay for the STIMULUS bailout. even if the egotistical morons in DC extort 90% the man should have a reasonably good lifestyle for playing a GAME. the best of fortune to these gentlemen.

Posted by: pofinpa | February 27, 2009 3:15 PM | Report abuse

This is a great day for Redskin fans it has been so long. Either we have been missing offense parts or defense parts today things are coming back together. Haynesworth is worth the risk, and Hall is a solid pick. There is worry in dallas, tennessee, and the nfl today about the power existing in Washington.

Posted by: phjesuswarrior7 | February 27, 2009 3:15 PM | Report abuse

I wonder how much "O Danny Boy" will raise ticket prices to cover the cost of this grand stand move.

Posted by: tflaim1 | February 27, 2009 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Nice to see that the majority of Redskins fans see that this is a total blunder.

Hopefully this bust will cost Snyder and Cerrato there jobs in the future.

HOPEFULLY - the skins fans out there will stop believing, stop buying tickets, stop thinking that this team has any chance.

This move was irrational and not something that will win games next year.

Who's gonna block for Jason, who's gonna block for Clinton, who's gonna play LB, who's gonna play Safety. Can the 100 million dollar man do it?

It almost seems like a pissing contest.....Danny and Vinny sit there and just flex there little muscles and hope they get the attention of every news channel in the states. I am sure they do.....but it's gonna be glaringly obvious that the entire country will be aware that these two will never work in football again.

BTW- it’s been 18 years since the Redskins have won a NFC title.

HAHAHAHA!!!!!

Posted by: pstate11 | February 27, 2009 3:41 PM | Report abuse

But, but, but the D wasn't the problem!!! It was the lack of an effective O-line. Another bone head move, equal to the JT fiasco.

Posted by: jmeaicp | February 27, 2009 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Maybe now we wont see MBIII getting carry after carry right up the middle of our highly touted 4th ranked D.

Posted by: hcicron | February 27, 2009 4:49 PM | Report abuse

DE-FENSE!!!

*CLAP* *CLAP*

DE-FENSE!!!

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | February 27, 2009 5:11 PM | Report abuse

The Eagles fan up there has a good point, another ridiculously huge big splash of cash to blowup Danny's ego, with way too much risk. Yeah, he's 27, but he's got seven years of NFL mileage on those knees. To counter, why the hell didn't the Eagles retain Dawkins when they're so low below the cap? Sheer owner greediness, Snyder looks better , even though he can also be viewd as a spendthrift.

" Great signings. The Redskins know there will not be a cap next year. The rich football teams are not going to agree to revenue sharing when team like the Bills don't try to raise additional revenue. Snyder, Jones, & Kraft don't want a salary cap."

Au contraire, I think with the coming depression, I think that smaller market teams will HAVE to have salary caps in order to compete, teams like Buffalo and Cleveland, and there will be strong moves to do so. Snyder is getting embarrassing with these huge signings and poor production, let's hope the 'Skins can break the pattern soon..

Posted by: frak | February 27, 2009 6:57 PM | Report abuse

And so it goes. The Snyder/Cerrato follies continue. Not 1 big time player since Portis has kept up their abilities after signing with the Skins. This team is a joke and the laughingstock of the NFL. Always will be under Danny boy.

Posted by: manaccar1 | February 27, 2009 8:17 PM | Report abuse

At this point the skins have to take an OT with #13 and pick up a guard in free agency. They need to do something for the offense now, and the obvious is upgrading the line. I think they should keep what they have at linebacker-Fincher, Campbell will not be expensive, and are decent players who know the system. The rest of the defense on paper should compensate for their mediocrity and still remain in the top 5 in the NFL. All this big money won't yield anything unless the o-line is addressed prior to the 2009 season.

Posted by: stevemck3 | February 27, 2009 8:51 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: columbiard | February 27, 2009 9:03 PM | Report abuse

Albert will play about 12 games a year. He's gotten his big payday, so he'll be less motivated than he was in 2008. At least he'll have two opportunities every year to do his Cowboy stomp.

Posted by: sydvicious | February 27, 2009 9:11 PM | Report abuse

Wow! This is incredible. The Redskins have paid a ton of money in the offseason to a coach and/or player who will guarantee a Super Bowl appearance.

Never heard THAT before!

Posted by: jd5024 | February 27, 2009 9:35 PM | Report abuse

Skins have signed Dockery!! Both sides of the line being addressed!!

Posted by: dkidwell61 | February 27, 2009 10:12 PM | Report abuse

oh, Jesus.

How long until the skins regret *this* deal?

You would have thought by now that they would have realized that these high-priced draft agents NEVER work out especially commensurate with the cost. Now they will have to shed half their starting squad from last year!

he is literally going to be the 800lb gorilla in the locker-room. How many sacks will he have to get to justify this expense to the team?

Posted by: dubya19391 | February 27, 2009 11:22 PM | Report abuse

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