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Skins Release Preseason Dates, Times

The NFL released the preseason schedule today, firming up the dates and times. Here's the Redskins' portion:

Thursday, Aug. 13
Washington at Baltimore, 7:30 p.m.

Saturday, Aug. 22
Pittsburgh at Washington, 7:30 p.m.

Friday, Aug. 28
New England at Washington, 8 p.m.

Thursday, Sept. 3
Washington at Jacksonville, 7:30 p.m.

Check out the full season schedule.

By Cindy Boren  |  May 19, 2009; 2:06 PM ET
 
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Nothing but AFC teams.

I miss the yearly scrimmage on WTTG against Pittsburg up in Carlisle.......

Also, we should have gotten a UFL team. I am liking their potential.

Maps, Such as.

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 19, 2009 2:15 PM | Report abuse

First...hoping Danny spends some of that cap money today!

Posted by: brian58 | May 19, 2009 2:16 PM | Report abuse

What has RI come to? Two days without a poll. I'm going on strike.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 19, 2009 2:19 PM | Report abuse

I bet the sucker didn't watch 90210

had to do it

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | May 19, 2009 2:16 PM

I figured. But, I tell you that you can learn alot from Rich kids who go to public school and dominate as far as what not to do in the 'real world'.

Like a virgin 16 yr old (whose father is a porn director) proposing to a pregnant drug addict 16 yr old. Ofcourse the baby isn't his because he is a VIRGIN.

My son just learned a valuable lesson.

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 19, 2009 2:21 PM | Report abuse

anybody catch this article today about "Redskins" name being offensive?


http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AhgoVuGu7Ouzqd7h7Ws5xpI5nYcB?slug=ms-trippintuesday051909&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

was there a recent poll of Native Americans that showed about 70% of them were not offended? If so please forward it to this PC tool Silver.

Posted by: strom1 | May 19, 2009 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Wire Post from last thread:

"You can't like Stringer Bell and Avon. You had to choose a side because they were going sepearate ways." - 4th

Agree to disagree, 4th. There was a time where they were really tight. And even toward the end, they still had mad love for each other. You can tell when Slim Charles is talking to Avon about Stringer's death ("We fight on that lie" -- all time line from the series) - he felt bad about it, although he gave him up to Omar.

That scene when they're on the roof is really somber, becasue they were in effect saying 'bye' to each other. Both had already rolled on the other (String/Maj. Colvin & Avon/Mouzone). String kept telling Avon that they didn't have to dream anymore -- sort of saying that 'we made it, end this war with Marlo", and Avon kept telling String to relax -- wanting to just be boys again, even if it was Stringer's last hours breathing.

Another scene where they had finally saw where the other was coming from is where Stringer is sitting looking at college loan paper work on the table, and knocks them off in fustration after he realized that Clay Davis basically stole 250K from him. Avon actually said "String was right. F Marlo, F this war." -- It was all too late, String was dead, and the cops raided his safe house that night sending him back to jail while on parole -- for the next 20-25 years.

Posted by: RedDMV | May 19, 2009 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Michael didn't kill Bodie. O-dog killed him. O-Dog was the skinny kid in Marlo's crew who wound up getting shot by Omar during the shoot-out in the apartment.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 19, 2009 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Hey Dan, spend the extra cap money on the OL!!!

Help needed at both tackle posisions, a starter at RT and a solid backup at LT.

Posted by: Alan4 | May 19, 2009 2:36 PM | Report abuse

RedDMV - Def agree to disagree.

You have to look at it at what it is vs. reflecting. Stringer Bell was trying to forecast himself out of the game, but he didn't align himself with any college edumacated accountants who know how to speak his language (such as moi). He didn't understand the politic's game. And he sure didn't forecast the downturn in the economy where his condo building would have been standing idle in real life empty.

Truth be told, Avon seemed more educated the Stringer. Stringer was doing anything the Pol told him. Avon knew to question that ish.

At the end, it was all business for Avon and (to me) personal for Stringer. Stringer was F'ing up the cash cow, and Avon wasn't feeling this new nitche Stringer was selling.

In conclusion, each viewer was made to decide which friend was choosing the correct path. To me, it was Avon because he stuck with what he knew.

(The 'fight on that lie' qoute is just what it is. You can't develge the whole truth sometimes and sometimes you build on only what everyone else knows for your on personal gain.)

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 19, 2009 2:40 PM | Report abuse

The 3rd preseason game is the truth-telling game.

That's the one where teams game plan and actually let the starters play past halftime.

If the pats 'go for the throat' in that game and are successful, we're in for a long season.

But if we come out at halftime tied or it's a close game, well, then there's a lot to look forward to.

Right now, I'm looking forward to that game.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 19, 2009 2:48 PM | Report abuse

The Wire's best scene ever.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 19, 2009 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Mista, I agree the 3rd game will tell a story. But I'm confindent the score will be close already, because the defense will be real.

The real story will be told in subplots. Whither the production of the new WRs, namely Kelly and Thomas?.... is Rinehart a bust, or can he be effective this year?... are Mike "You eating that?" Williams and Jeremy "lap dance" Bridges going to shore up the RT position? Is Samuels fully recovered from his surgery? Does JC17 get a chance to show off his arm strength and spread the field behind some decent blocking? (And of course, no preseason injuries--that's always a wild card).

Posted by: Alan4 | May 19, 2009 2:59 PM | Report abuse

OK, let me try this again and see if I can get it past the blog's gatekeepers of morality...

Being good in preseason is like being good at self-gratification...entertaining but of absolutely no value in the grand scheme of things. It does, however, give The Danny a chance to get his hands on your most intimate of personal areas.

There, did I clean it up enough for you LaCantfindmybuttwithbothhands?

Posted by: InRealAmerica | May 19, 2009 3:05 PM | Report abuse

4th, I f'd with both String and Avon equally.

It's not like they were direct enemies, don't you remember String telling Maj. Colvin not to give him any real time because "he's my brother"? But he had to get him out of the way for a little bit becasue the Marlo beef was threatening everything. Again, Avon expresses some sort of remorse for String's death -- "String died becasue I couldn't stop it..." - Avon

Everyone had their "stuff" but it was what made them into the compelling characters they were.

Stringer was book smart, but he realized that it didn't translate into the business world, despite what you're told about degrees, getting a great career, and getting what you want out of life.

Street smarts/common sense always prevails over book smarts, becasue you can't learn about someones shadiness, among other things from a book.

Avon Barksdale was definitely street smart. It was why he was the man still, even in jail.

Posted by: RedDMV | May 19, 2009 3:05 PM | Report abuse

LH - That is def a top scene. But to me, their is just too many to choose from....

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 19, 2009 3:07 PM | Report abuse

alan4

"The real story will be told in subplots."


Amen.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 19, 2009 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Darn you learned, I can't 'tube it' right now. Which scene was it?

This was well put, 4th:

"(The 'fight on that lie' qoute is just what it is. You can't develge the whole truth sometimes and sometimes you build on only what everyone else knows for your on personal gain.)" = The US in Iraq (IMO)

Posted by: RedDMV | May 19, 2009 3:11 PM | Report abuse

The scene where Bunk tells Omar how sjk'd up things have become because of people like him.

Bunk says: "It makes me sick, mothersjk, how far we done fell".

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 19, 2009 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Final note - Stringer was a punk looking out for #1. Avon was looking out for the crew. The game choose Stringer and he wanted to have it both ways. You can't play the game and not suffer the conseqeunces of playing it.

Why would you want to get your man locked up. That's called snitching. That's personal. Stringer died off of Business. He brought a dark cloud to Barksdale game. And his game is based 100% on street cred, so Stringer had to go.

No way you could be rooting for both of them at the end. You had to only have one prevail. Otherwise, you're just an onlooker. How could you have F'd with both of them? Would you be the MLK to those 2 and bring them together and sing we shall overcome? Man, you would have been blasted as well if you thought that. It's a cruel game and the wire should be a learning lesson to all the wannabes.........

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 19, 2009 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Right now, I'm looking forward to that game.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 19, 2009 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Not me, I still have flashbacks to the last time the Pats drilled the Skins in the preseason.

Posted by: ga8085 | May 19, 2009 3:22 PM | Report abuse

it looked like michael killed Bodie to me, especially on the bootleg dvd copy that came out before the season was over.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | May 19, 2009 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Not me, I still have flashbacks to the last time the Pats drilled the Skins in the preseason.

Posted by: ga8085

In a couple months, it'll be a completely refreshed memory

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 19, 2009 3:26 PM | Report abuse

So String loses respect for trying to go legit a little bit (he wasn't going all straight because he still in the Co-Op) but Avon keeps his street cred by giving up String to his enemies Omar and Mouzone so they don't come for him? Both of them were grimy street dudes who would do whatever to whomever if it meant getting ahead. That's what I loved and hated about the show at the same time - it showed that no one in that life gets out clean.


Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 19, 2009 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Tru,tru tru
No one comes out clean, but my gripe with string was B&B was about hustling. Avon didn't sell out string for legit biz interests. He did what he had to do to keep his biz running, wheather that meant warring with Marlo(unsuccessfully) or allowing brother mouzone( an ally) to get fair retribution against string for lying on him to omar about one of omar's boyfriends murder and thus maintaining the out of town connect.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | May 19, 2009 3:06 PM | Report ab

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | May 19, 2009 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Oh what a day. So much news going on on like Milbank's story or the Bog to pick two stories at random.

Posted by: alex35332 | May 19, 2009 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Both of them were grimy street dudes who would do whatever to whomever if it meant getting ahead. That's what I loved and hated about the show at the same time - it showed that no one in that life gets out clean.


Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 19, 2009 2:46 PM

Avon looked out for his peoples. That is how it's supposed to be. Stringer is/was the real grimy dude you fear to have on your team because their true colors don't come to light until it's too late. If Stringer held it down, when Avon was in, the little youngin would have never come up like he did.

Main Reason - Stringer took out Avon's nephew so he can be with his girl. Now if that ain't SJK'd up, I don't know what is. And Stringer never told Avon. Do you think it was really hard for him to give up Stringer to the muslim dude? Heck no, even though that was only business related. Killed 2 birds with one stone.

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 19, 2009 3:40 PM | Report abuse

In a couple months, it'll be a completely refreshed memory

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 19, 2009 3:26 PM | Report abuse

LOL!

Posted by: ga8085 | May 19, 2009 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Darn you learned, I can't 'tube it' right now. Which scene was it?

This was well put, 4th:

"(The 'fight on that lie' qoute is just what it is. You can't develge the whole truth sometimes and sometimes you build on only what everyone else knows for your on personal gain.)" = The US in Iraq (IMO)

Posted by: RedDMV | May 19, 2009 3:11 PM | Report abuse
on the money red. bush watches the wire too, he was feelin all avonish, with slim cheyney in his ear

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | May 19, 2009 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Mike "You eating that?" Williams and Jeremy "lap dance" Bridges
--------------

hilarious

Posted by: thor2 | May 19, 2009 3:47 PM | Report abuse

My Final Note:

4th, I said the reason String wanted Avon locked up was because he was threatening all the 'legit' money they've (really, Stringer) made. The war with Marlo was threatening that...

How could you say that is was all personal with Stringer Bell -- he had D'Angelo off's in the bing "A life that had to be took, right?" D'Angelo was fittin to snitch, and tell to a certain extent, and Stringer put the hit on him for that reason only. Stringer could have had Avon gunned down, but he wanted him locked up, and only for a short time to let him cool off with the Marlo beef.

I'm not "rooting" for Stringer Bell here, just am able to see both sides. As I said, they were compelling characters, you can't argue that, if not then we've wasted a helluva lot a time discussing this...

Agreed on the fact that "The Wire" is a cautionary tale for those who are inspiring to be street dudes -- I won't call them wannabees, sometimes depending on your situation you have no other options.

Posted by: RedDMV | May 19, 2009 3:52 PM | Report abuse

ga8085

"...I still have flashbacks to the last time the Pats drilled the Skins in the preseason..."

And that game told us everything that was wrong with the team.

And if I'm right, we played them later on in the year, and got smoked by 50 plus points.

I believe the regular season game is the one where CR got hurt early on.

But doncha want to measure the team against the best so you don't go into the season with false assumptions?

3 of the four AFC teams we play are dynamite teams. 'd rather see the skins play up to better teams than go into Sept. thinking they're better because they played weaker ones.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 19, 2009 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Lucky for you Red, I have already declared my final note and will stick with it.

But, as a 'side' note, I agree with the 'wannabes' assesment. I just got caught up in my typing......

(I have too much free time with only 3 days left at the job)

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 19, 2009 3:57 PM | Report abuse

red

string coulda told avon he thought deandre was bout to snitch. He was usin though so maybe he did have to go. The main thing is that string had to operate behind avon's back to make moves. avon was transparent

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | May 19, 2009 3:58 PM | Report abuse

3 of the four AFC teams we play are dynamite teams. 'd rather see the skins play up to better teams than go into Sept. thinking they're better because they played weaker ones.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 19, 2009 3:54 PM | Report abuse

I would actually like them to play some crappy teams and atleast have a false sense of confidence heading into the season instead of getting crushed and have their hopes, souls and confidence ripped away by Lord Bellycheck and Co.

Posted by: ga8085 | May 19, 2009 4:01 PM | Report abuse

"Main Reason - Stringer took out Avon's nephew so he can be with his girl. Now if that ain't SJK'd up, I don't know what is. And Stringer never told Avon. Do you think it was really hard for him to give up Stringer to the muslim dude? Heck no, even though that was only business related. Killed 2 birds with one stone."

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 19, 2009 3:40 PM


Dude, 4th, how could you spin it that way? So, the main reason D was killed was becasue String wanted to get with Donett, c'mon man... it was more to it than just pu**y.

D'Angelo was about to bring down the entire organization, then wanted to disappear so he "could breathe again" and to get "what Wallace wanted".

So with that tid-bit, I ask, who was more grimey: String, Avon, or D'Angelo?

I'd say D'Angelo.

Why?

'Cause if D'Angelo never goes to prison (took the fall for Avon, BTW), he never starts yapping to the cops, he never feels the pressure of having to do 20 years, therefor not making String suspicious about his intentions.

Posted by: RedDMV | May 19, 2009 4:06 PM | Report abuse

"Main Reason - Stringer took out Avon's nephew so he can be with his girl. Now if that ain't SJK'd up, I don't know what is."
Posted by: 4thFloor | May 19, 2009 3:40 PM

4th, he had D'Angelo killed because D'Angelo was about to cooperate with the police. Even Avon understood that - "It was business, not personal." The thing with D's girl happened because he was around her in his effort to keep tabs on D'Angelo. He was using her - nothing more.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 19, 2009 4:07 PM | Report abuse

The main thing is that string had to operate behind avon's back to make moves. avon was transparent

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | May 19, 2009 3:58 PM

Exactly. Grimy, Avon was never...

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 19, 2009 4:07 PM | Report abuse

the question I have is did string ever sell avon door to door....??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | May 19, 2009 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Who came out on top at the end of The Wire?

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 19, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Ok, time for full disclosure. All this D'angelo stuff must have happened in Season 2, the seaon I didn't watch.

SO, I would take that one paragraph out. My apologizes for reaching. That doesn't affect any of my other setiments, though.

But as Hollywood said, it's all about transparency, and Stringer was never transparent. That is what brought down the organization....

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 19, 2009 4:13 PM | Report abuse

sorry for extra "is"...

Posted by: chrislarry | May 19, 2009 10:17 AM

You're sorry, I'm sorry, a nation is sorry ... the only one who isn't is Bill Clinton himself.

Posted by: dcsween | May 19, 2009 4:14 PM | Report abuse

I'm a wire junkie... I can go back and forth on it all day -- was fun doing it.

For those who had input, I suggest we turn RI back over to those we chased away. I too got caught up.

lil, Slim Cheyney? Good stuff, lol.

Although Bush is more like Stringer (smart, but really dumb, he like Stringer got out of his element (Texas) and when he came to Washington he had his skirt lifted, and was exposed for being the red button pushing retard that he is.

Posted by: RedDMV | May 19, 2009 4:15 PM | Report abuse

ga8085, the crappy teams cost us the postseason last year. No more Bengals, no more Rams. Bring on the Iggles! Bring on the Cards! I look forward to the Pats.

I genuinely beleive the D will be spectacular this year. Why? Because the players proved it on the field last year. The additions are genuine upgrades (Haynesworth, Orakpo, and I'll mention Hall since he arrived in midseason last year).

Our offense is counting very heavily on skill players who didn't play much (or at all) last year and older players, some recovering from serious surgeries.

The D will be fine this year, they will keep other teams from scoring a lot of points. All the questions in my mind revolve around the OL and WRs.

Posted by: Alan4 | May 19, 2009 4:18 PM | Report abuse

would avon sell out a string-a-bells?

reach?

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | May 19, 2009 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Who came out on top at the end of The Wire?

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 19, 2009 4:12 PM

This is a trick question. (Too complicated to expound in this atmosphere)

This actually reminds me of Juice, when Pac was killed and someone stepped to his friend and told him, 'You've got the juice now.'

And Red - Stringer was the most grimiest. No doubt. Because when you hide facts, you're not be truthful, most of the time for personal gain.

Me, I am all for transparency. That way, there is no one to fault but yourself....

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 19, 2009 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Who came out on top at the end of The Wire?

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 19, 2009 4:12 PM

The homie, Slim Charles. They show him in the diner talking to the greeks at the end of season five/series.

4th, WATCH SEASON TWO! They show you how they were bringing the raw into Baltimore off the docks.

Plus, that was the season with Ziggy aka TheTruth11.

god bless, Beantowngreg. lol.

Posted by: RedDMV | May 19, 2009 4:21 PM | Report abuse

i gotta say that Naymond that sucker came out on top b/c he's probably the only character that will go on to have a real life.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | May 19, 2009 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Red - weren't you the one complaining about the lack of diverse convo? Once you get it, you are ready to give it back? Wow.

Fine.

MArcus Mason will finally upgrade our #2 RB spot and hopefully we can get some value for Betts in a trade....

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 19, 2009 4:24 PM | Report abuse

4th, String was dirty, I said that dude had it coming -- they all did. But D'Angelo's snitching brought most of the foul stuff you saw String do in season three.

Posted by: RedDMV | May 19, 2009 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Who came out on top at the end of The Wire?

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 19, 2009 4:12 PM

A ton of good actors who are now scattered throughout the Tele.

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | May 19, 2009 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Please refrain.

Posted by: SMACK1 | May 19, 2009 4:31 PM | Report abuse

the greeks came out on top cuz the dope is theoretically still selling

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | May 19, 2009 4:34 PM | Report abuse

4th, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

okay, okay, okay -- you got it dude. But as a side note: agree about Marcus Mason.

Seriously though, checkout season 2. It's different than the rest of the seasons IMO, but it's still really good.

Naymond = Gump = Bama -- Wanted to ball hard but couldn't play hard, remember when he was lied to 'bout the alleged robbery by Kenard, then Michael tells Naymond that Kenard robbed the stash. When they both confront him (Naymond and Michael) Michael suggests that naymond 'handles that' -- he couldn't so Michael proceeds to beat the sh*t out of him. From that moment on if the series had continued for another 4-5 years, you could see Micheal was going to be "him" for real.

Posted by: RedDMV | May 19, 2009 4:36 PM | Report abuse

I see that the refraining refrain from the refraining refrainer is back up here.

Posted by: dcsween | May 19, 2009 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Did I ever mention that I don't have cable?

Posted by: dcsween | May 19, 2009 4:37 PM | Report abuse

My prediction is 3-1 and the only loss to the Jags, why? That's the last pre-season game and generally coaches are more cautious with starters.
Measure the defense in New England's game.
Baltimore and Pittsburgh's game will be boring and low scoring.

Hail!

Posted by: abxinc | May 19, 2009 4:38 PM | Report abuse

ufb with the mason love up here....for about the brazillionth time, wake me up when he makes the team, and had a carry.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | May 19, 2009 4:41 PM | Report abuse

i said earlier michael was the truth.

I just had to give u the after-school special answer b/c with him living at the colvin's naymond woulda probably ended up in college or something. That's why i say the real winners are the greeks and levin the lawyer the dope bizness will keep their pockets straight (shout out to cp).

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | May 19, 2009 4:41 PM | Report abuse

lil, good way of putting it.

I'm out, y'all -- tomorrow lets discuss "Wings" or something like that.

More folks may identify with "Wings" or something to that effect.

Posted by: RedDMV | May 19, 2009 4:42 PM | Report abuse

ufb with the mason love up here....for about the brazillionth time, wake me up when he makes the team, and had a carry.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | May 19, 2009 4:41 PM

LMAO... Bean you need some "Mason Persuasion"

Posted by: RedDMV | May 19, 2009 4:44 PM | Report abuse

still nobody with me on the vick as backup rb/wr/emergency qb.

not switching fields from the earlier page just asking questions.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | May 19, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

The grimiest street dude of them all - Marlo. Because he stayed true to what he was - a heartless monster without a conscious. He avoided prison, had a ton of money, and he was headed back to life he loved.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 19, 2009 4:46 PM | Report abuse

More folks may identify with "Wings" or something to that effect.


Posted by: RedDMV | May 19, 2009 4:42 PM

Or the new 90210. You can catch up on it real easily AND it's the season finally tonight. Hopefully better than 24's bore.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 19, 2009 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Amazing the wire gets only street cred and no real awards, but the soprano's get handed every award possible.

Im aint saying, but just saying

Posted by: GreatOne1 | May 19, 2009 4:49 PM | Report abuse

....for about the brazillionth time.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | May 19, 2009 4:41 PM

Greg - Be prepared for a looong offseason.

And I am all for Vick coming back. He may not fit what we need right now, but he should play for someone. He def won't be playing in the NFL this year....

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 19, 2009 4:52 PM | Report abuse

More folks may identify with "Wings" or something to that effect.


Posted by: RedDMV | May 19, 2009 4:42 PM

Or the new 90210. You can catch up on it real easily AND it's the season finally tonight. Hopefully better than 24's bore.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 19, 2009 4:49 PM | Report abuse

24 blew me last night. 90210, despite my earlier jab has been surprisingly decent. I'm the anomally of a black dude that's watched 90210 since the first 1. when i saw lil mike was on it i tuned in and it's ok.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | May 19, 2009 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Oh, I'm all for Vick coming back as well, the man has done MORE than his share of time. Look at Leonard Little, Pac-Man Jones, or ray-ray lewis, for example and compare them with MVick. Who of them has served the most time, for the least crime??

Personally I liked the old guy on wings....thought his character was underdeveloped....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | May 19, 2009 5:00 PM | Report abuse

See... It only takes one black dude to come out of the closet of TV shows not designed for them before another comes out. LMFAO!

Yes, I use to watch the 1st one because I was like 12 and only had 5/6 channels to choose from back then. Micheal pulled me in as well. But his character is far from how he was on the wire. He has turned into a sentimental wuss....

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 19, 2009 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Is o line depth all we need or our largest area of need? I think vick as a 3rd rb would be an upgrade(even having never played the position). I think he would also upgrade our qbs with all of them knowing that a former probowler, starting caliber qb was looking over their shoulder.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | May 19, 2009 5:08 PM | Report abuse

I think he would also upgrade our qbs with all of them knowing that a former probowler, starting caliber qb was looking over their shoulder.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | May 19, 2009 5:08 PM

Plus, they know how he handles underperformers.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 19, 2009 5:19 PM | Report abuse

the black kid with white steppeeps and sis isn't a good look and seems forced. They'd have been just as good with all white fam with the black neighbors, but i guess 90210 didn't want to put a black fam in bev hills.

not really trippin just sayin

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | May 19, 2009 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Plus, they know how he handles underperformers.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 19, 2009 5:19 PM | Report abuse

My Man!

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | May 19, 2009 5:31 PM | Report abuse

I think the Skins should look into getting Vick, he would be affordable, and he would be somebody on offense that defenses would actually "FEAR"(as good as they are I don't think Portis and Moss strike fear in any defense), and have to spend a lot of time planning for, and since Dan Dan loves publicity what or who would bring more attention to Washington than aquiring Vick?

Posted by: 72Redskins | May 19, 2009 5:43 PM | Report abuse

The Wire was and is a television masterpeice. The characters, the storylines of life in inner city Baltimore and the juxtaposition of the "hood", law enforcemnet, politics, labor, and media was unparralled. That this series received no major awards was a joke, and a complete travesty. The acting(some who were almost amateurs), the writing, and directing was superb!! I just think because it was basically about Black folks in inner city Baltimore the mainstream media and entertainment powers that be just shrugged it off. The Sopranos even though they were some cut throat characters was more widely accepted because the Mafia tends to be romanticized, even though they were Italians, they were white and more digestable to mainstream America, media, and the awards groups. Just my opinion. Wish they would make a Wire movie or revive a new series, I miss it,as far as TV, it was something else.

Posted by: 72Redskins | May 19, 2009 5:55 PM | Report abuse

YAY FOOTBALL!! Finally! =) Can't wait to see what Colt can do in this preseason!

Posted by: rachel216 | May 19, 2009 6:00 PM | Report abuse

I'm with you lilhollywood10 I think we should sign Vick. In fact Snyder should be getting the plane ready for a short flight down to Norfolk right now with D'Angelo sitting beside him.

Vick has already played in the west coast offense so he should have an understanding of what zorn wants to do. Don't get me wrong I like Campbell, but I don't think having some competition is a bad thing.

Plus just having Vick on the field means teams have to plan for him and that would add a nice wrinkle to an otherwise flat offense.

Posted by: AcePhoenix77 | May 19, 2009 6:51 PM | Report abuse

72Redskins, I don't think defenses will fear any skill player in the Skins offense as long as the O-line is so bad opposing defenders worry about our QB's health.

And for those who think JC17 is a bumbling idiot whose replacement wouldn't have such problems, I take you back to from a Seahawk's perspective onQB Collins magical run to the playoffs, which ended with a 35-14 loss to the Seahawks:

...Not sure we've ever seen a win for which the credit belongs so overwhelmingly to the defense. For most of the game, the Seahawks' defensive line was able to get pressure with only four rushers. By establishing that, they were able to drop guys back into coverage, which led to the two pick sixes.
The offense? The special teams? Not so great...

The glaring problem at the end of 2007 was the same glaring problem at the end of 2008. When all you need is 4 rushers to pressure the QB, it gets real tough to throw the ball to covered receievers downfield. Will Vick change that in 2009? I think not.

Fix the O-line.

Posted by: Alan4 | May 19, 2009 7:10 PM | Report abuse

Thank God we are playing these teams in the preseason and not the regular.

I am the only one who is a bit upset about what is aspiring with Orakpo? If he is going to be a full time LB (or atleast 75+% of downs) why the he11 did we not take Oher in the first? Left tackle and D-end may have been about equal on the needs list but Left tackle is way above LB. Hey, he may turn into Adalius Thomas....but right now im not happy.

Anybody with me on this?

Posted by: Chrisphilippsen | May 19, 2009 7:16 PM | Report abuse

*Am I....

Posted by: Chrisphilippsen | May 19, 2009 7:19 PM | Report abuse

MOE'S INSTA-POLL:

Best Rant. From Mike Francesa of the WFAN:

Summarized, "The trouble today is we give fame and celebrity to guys who haven't proven anything. Mark Sanchez on the cover of GQ magazine? Mark Sanchez the next Tom Brady? Please: Let him win something first. Right now, until he does, he's the present Matt Leinhart."


0 don't like the WFAN, but Francesa's right

0 who's Mark Sanchez

0 who's Tom Brady

0 Does GQ stand for Gay Quarterly?

0 Matt Leinhart and Mark Sanchez are the same guy? Are they pictured together in Gay Quarterly?

0 is Dan Snyder still trying to trade up to get Mark Sanchez?

0 why does twitter sound like an email system for birds?

0 all of the above

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 19, 2009 7:35 PM | Report abuse

"...I think the Skins should look into getting Vick..."


Why?

What would he do?

Not to e rude, but just because some guy is 'out there,' it doesn't mean we should run like dogs (no pun intended) to sign them.

Let's take the roster a it presently stands into training camp and let our esteemed staff 'coach the up' to be the best they can be.

Just Say No To Vick!

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 19, 2009 8:06 PM | Report abuse

Not to e rude, but just because some guy is 'out there,' it doesn't mean we should run like dogs (no pun intended) to sign them.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 19, 2009 8:06 PM

I'm with Moe on this one.

dcsween is out there and we haven't made a move to sign him.

BeantownGreg is out there and we haven't made a move to sign him.

nateinthePDX is out there and we haven't made a move to sign him.

TheCork is out there and we haven't made a move to sign him.

Until we sign these guys, who would be just as valuable to the 'Skins as Michael Vick, then let's just drop the Michael Vick chatter.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 19, 2009 8:55 PM | Report abuse

Mike Vick = PR nightmare and the Skins, and all teams should just say, "No!"

Posted by: lsskinsfan | May 19, 2009 9:00 PM | Report abuse

"...Can't wait to see what Colt can do in this preseason!"


(INSERT anxious announcer baritone)

Yeah, well in this preseason's episode of 'The Cult O' Colt,' some other diminutive college 'system' quarterback shows up to challenge Colt for a job as clipboard holder.

(INSERT worried soap opera organ music as Chase Daniels University of Missouri image is seen tossing a bomb to Jeremy Maclin)

Thing is, unlike Colt's wack work in the WAC, Chase Daniels has great numbers against Big 12 competition, making some wonder if he, and the dreadlocked rainbow warrior, might be the real late round steal.

(INSERT worried soap opera organ music at increased pitch as Daniels is seen tossing another deep bomb past an onlooking Texas Longhorn d-back as Mizzou scores again)

Will Colt withstand the challange? Is Colt v Chase the best upcoming camp battle?

Will Mike Williams lose weight?

Will Devin Thomas stop blogging about ' as for me, myself' as he ussually does?

Will Fred Davis be awake in time to see who wins?

Tune in this summer to find out.

'Cuz for right now, all we gots is lame posts.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 19, 2009 9:17 PM | Report abuse

I hope everyone is appreciating my suggestion for weekly Mike Williams weigh-ins.

There would be a constant supply of real news! Or at least quality jibber-jabber.

We could even have weekly polls!
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | May 19, 2009 9:30 PM | Report abuse

How ABOUT them Clippers...

Posted by: TheCork | May 19, 2009 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Hey T_E, I told you you had "little man's syndrome" 43 inches? No comparison to my 73 inch 1080i HD.

Posted by: vegasskinsfan | May 19, 2009 6:54 AM

Wow, dude, you're like saying that yours is bigger than mine? Sounds like you're even more insecure than most of us had thought.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 19, 2009 10:28 AM |

Okay, maybe not "insecure." Your issue might be simpler. Before you see a shrink, why don't you get a new Rx for your glasses or, at least, wash the crud off the ones you're wearing now? That might solve your problem.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 19, 2009 10:38 AM | Report abuse

T_E responding to his own response. Classic.

Posted by: vegasskinsfan | May 19, 2009 9:41 PM | Report abuse

YAY FOOTBALL!! Finally! =) Can't wait to see what Colt can do in this preseason!

Posted by: rachel216 | May 19, 2009 6:00 PM | Report abuse


I bet he throws TD passes. That's what he has a knack for.

Posted by: Vicc | May 19, 2009 9:58 PM | Report abuse

anybody catch this article today about "Redskins" name being offensive?


http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AhgoVuGu7Ouzqd7h7Ws5xpI5nYcB?slug=ms-trippintuesday051909&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

was there a recent poll of Native Americans that showed about 70% of them were not offended? If so please forward it to this PC tool Silver.

Posted by: strom1 | May 19, 2009 2:21 PM

I just read this...Silver is an idiot. Provides no supporting facts of the assertion that 'redskin' is a racist term. And that's because it's not one.

I understand the ideology that the name is a gray area and could be changed in good faith, but don't make it sound like a national travesty and try to tie in Obama's election. That's just over dramatic and gives way too much relevance to something as petty as the name of a football team.

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 20, 2009 6:47 AM | Report abuse

Please 108in screen and Meridian 810 front projector. 4k beats 1080p. The Meridian upscales everything to 4k. Maggies, REL and CJ in my home theater room.

Deadskins go 0-4 during the preseason and after losing their first 2 games of the season and only scoring 3 pts Danny Boy cans Zorn. He hires the recently retired John Madden as interim coach. The Deadskins finish 1 and 15 and Madden misses all of the away games because his bus breaks down.

Posted by: sheepherder | May 20, 2009 6:47 AM | Report abuse

I actually used to like this guy, now I'm not so sure.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AsEbRwYgVNMD9Y3Lby9Zzi1DubYF?slug=ms-trippintuesday051909&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Hail to the "REDSKINZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ"

Posted by: FedorEm | May 20, 2009 7:48 AM | Report abuse

"Redskins name being offensive?"


Such is life in modern America.

People watch everything from cartoons to bad movies and see their cultural group defamed by something intended to make kids laugh and date nights go by faster.

Sports teams can't offend by being named after 'bullets,' 'redmen,' or 'warriors'.

But a guy can use the n-word in a song freely and we all dance and nod our heads right to the beat, y'all.

Even a name like 'cowboys' offends the gay community as anyone who regularly reads this blogs understands it should--homosexuals don't go down in December and January as often as Jerrah Jones' crew does.

You can torture an arab in the name of security, but you can't use an out of date racial epipthet to name a professional sports team.

You'd think the offended 'Fightin' Irish' would be swinging it out in court at Notre Dame University, but no, they're all hot because Obama thinks a pregnant woman has a right--as stated under law--to do as she pleases with her uterus.

I guess it doesn't bring up their irish that their football team doesn't have that much fight in it anymore either.

But such is life in America: we are offended by all offenses, real and imaginary.

Go figure.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 20, 2009 7:51 AM | Report abuse

Well said, Moe. The thing that really chaps my ass is that while the Redskins get taken to task with their nickname, the Cleveland Indians seem to get a free pass despite having a far more offensive nickname and even more blatantly offensive logo. Where's the outrage there?

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 20, 2009 7:56 AM | Report abuse

Fire Girardi!!!

Ooooops, looks like we'll have to take that back now.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 20, 2009 8:03 AM | Report abuse

For the record. I did not intend to imply and never stated that "Redskin" was a racist term. I only meant that it was being regarded as such by today's PC society. And that given this state, you can't justify keeping the name, unless you're reflecting the current state of race relations in our country, which is pretty accurate. (see ironic use of the "N" word, Dave Chappelle, Mel Brooks, etc.)

I was going to make some really awesome point after that, but I haven't had any coffee yet and that etherial vixen vanished.

I guess I could say that "Ok, the name is now too offensive to continue with" (which, according to the courts & pretty much everyone else is true...) But even if I were to agree with that assertion, Silver is not the man to write about it. Him complaining about it is as bad as my ponification on it. We're both windbags who should just shut the sjk up.

Is Leigh Torrence gonna hav to smakabytch?

Posted by: DikShuttle | May 20, 2009 8:07 AM | Report abuse

oh - I remember now!

Back during the Clinton administration ol hick Willy-Jeff was referring to the USA not paying their United Nations bill and stated that he did not want our country to be seen "Welching on a debt".

Seems innocent enough, until you realize that is disparaging of the Welch. To whit the Welch Ambassador fired off a letter to the President demanding an apology and complaining about all the damage this stereotype has done to the Welch, who are apparently regarded as financial scofflaws (who knew?).

Mr. Hillary of course was conciliatory and immediately apologized for making such a "Left-Handed remark".

[ :-|

See? It's not so easy to be PCeezy.

Posted by: DikShuttle | May 20, 2009 8:15 AM | Report abuse

Extra Credit Question:

Who knows what the term Cracker denotes?

[there is one true answer, though many think it's something else]

Posted by: DikShuttle | May 20, 2009 8:18 AM | Report abuse

Double Extra Credit:

What's the Baby Using?

Posted by: DikShuttle | May 20, 2009 8:19 AM | Report abuse

Alright Dik, I'm clicking the 'report abuse' tab on you...I'm sure hijacking the blog is some sort of violation of the terms...

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 20, 2009 8:21 AM | Report abuse

"...the Cleveland Indians seem to get a free pass despite having a far more offensive nickname and even more blatantly offensive logo."

True.

And it seems you're only safe if you take the name of something from the animal kingdom.

So what animal name do the skins take?:

Lions? Tigers? Bears?--oh my!

'Bucks' would be cool, but would confuse us with the Tampa crowd.

'Manatees,' 'Sabercats,' and 'Kittens' are definately out!

I mean, who wants to be drunk in a sports' bar shouting on a fall Sunday, "Let's go Kittens! Let's go!"

Yeah, that would suck.

But money is power in DC, so Moe proposes the team changes it's name to 'Greenbacks'

The Washington Greenbacks.

They could put dolla bill signs on the helmets and change the team colors to green and white.

And a money themed name change makes cents: after all, spending a lot of money for nothing is the one thing the team seems to be good at.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 20, 2009 8:22 AM | Report abuse

Moe, I've said all along that the best course of action if a change HAS to be made is to change the name to Warriors or Warpath so that you don't have to change the colors or the logo. I like Warpath better because it still fits within the fight song, but I could see some more oversensitive PC people getting their panties in a bunch of that too.

One thing I'd like to see is the Washington sports teams to all get on board with one color scheme. All of Pittsburgh's sports teams wear black and gold and it would be pretty cool if all the D.C. teams wore (for example) red, white and navy blue like the Caps and the Nats. Just a thought...

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 20, 2009 8:31 AM | Report abuse

Jimmy cracked corn and I don't care.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | May 20, 2009 8:31 AM | Report abuse

changing the name of the Redskins would be one of the worst decisions ever made.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | May 20, 2009 8:34 AM | Report abuse

I MEAN JESUS CHRIST

the name is "Redskins"

Washington "Redskins". That means, people with red skin. It doesn't INSULT people with red skin, it doesn't give props to people with red skin, it just means they have red skin.

It's like being called the Washington Blue Eyes, and people with blue eyes being offended.


This PC crap annoys me to no end.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | May 20, 2009 8:35 AM | Report abuse

Thanks Brownie.

It's not my fault the blog is dead.

Geez, try to talk on topic and whuddya get!? jibba jabba.

C for effort, Truth.

Posted by: DikShuttle | May 20, 2009 8:38 AM | Report abuse

"...the Washington Blue Eyes..."


If you change the name to that, blonde people everywhere will be upset.

Thing is, because they're blonde, they won't know why.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 20, 2009 8:47 AM | Report abuse

I think there's enough here to at least consider that the term is offensive now:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/redskin

Posted by: DikShuttle | May 20, 2009 8:48 AM | Report abuse

I think there's enough here to at least consider that the term is offensive now:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/redskin


Posted by: DikShuttle | May 20, 2009 8:48 AM

It's gonna take more than a one line dictionary reference to change my mind on this. I've read some of the research on this and it's not a racial slur.

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 20, 2009 9:12 AM | Report abuse

I knwo I am jumping in late with "The Wire" comments, but here are my two favorite quotes from Omar:

Omar robbing the Card game Marlo is playing in "Money don't have no owners, just spenders" and

When he visited Prop Joe later after the robbery and brought a clock to be fixed and Prop Joe asked what was wrong with the clock, Omar said "It ran out of time"

This is just the few of my all time favorites.

Posted by: JMac_in_MD | May 20, 2009 11:37 AM | Report abuse

glad that's not the regular season schedule.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | May 21, 2009 6:02 PM | Report abuse

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