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Skins Sign Glenn and Eddie Williams

The Redskins announced that they have signed two of their picks in April's draft: linebacker Cody Glenn and fullback Eddie Williams.

Glenn was a fifth-round pick (No. 158 overall) out of Nebraska. Williams, the 221st overall pick in the seventh round, played at Idaho.

Contract details were not availalble.

By Cindy Boren  |  June 11, 2009; 6:08 PM ET
 
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first!!
I can not even believe these signings, I am almost completely at a loss for words, ok now im out, oh wait..... WHAT THE FU#K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: jefferboy | June 11, 2009 6:24 PM | Report abuse

THE other post said we signed Cody Glenn. Does this guy have something on us, did we sign him as a salesman with out ticket dept or what??!!! A scrub who misses a plan as a rookie, and has an injury he is still recovering from@!!!! What the f#@$!!! Ok im calm, had to vent!!!!!

Posted by: jefferboy | June 11, 2009 6:22 PM

The Skins gots to have them dyslexic name boys from the Big 12 don't they? Frist Chase Daniel and nwo Cody Glenn.

Posted by: AntonChigurh | June 11, 2009 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Just 'cuz they're signed doesn't mean they'll make the team. Besides, 5th and 7th round picks don't land fat contracts anyway.
Hopefully, the skins were able to use the "ticket scandal" and missed plane to negotiate a cheaper deal for Glenn than he otherwise might have gotten.

Posted by: kaasmaster | June 11, 2009 6:33 PM | Report abuse

Williams suffered a knee ligament injury last November and was sidelined for the Redskins’ off-season mini-camp and OTAs.

He is expected to be healthy for the start of training camp

Does this sound familiar??!! UGHHHH

Posted by: jefferboy | June 11, 2009 6:33 PM | Report abuse

We never have found out the real truth about Glenn's "ticket scandal".

I'm starting a rumor that he might have been involved with some misdeeds involving the coach's daughter.

Posted by: kaasmaster | June 11, 2009 6:38 PM | Report abuse

This is just getting silly, I dont care if they arent going to make the team or dont make alot of money, are they going to play o line, or help the offense in any way??!! Doubtful

Posted by: jefferboy | June 11, 2009 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Rebuttal time for T_E. Categorically:

"They didn't even have OTAs when Rod Woodson played. Of course he missed them."

Dude didn't play when there were leather helmets. He retired 5 years ago. When there were OTAs. That was a lot less off-season workouts and what not when he was a rookie, but there were definitely OTAs during his playing days.

"You comparing Landry to Taylor and Haynesworth. What a joke. How many Pro Bowls has Landry been in?"

That remark is a joke because Taylor had no Pro Bowls his first two years as well. He didn't magically start making Pro Bowls because he went to OTAs. In fact, the Pro Bowl is such a joke that Taylor first made the trip to Hawaii in '06 after the worst statistical season for the Redskins defense since the Spurrier debacle. Dude had a whopping 1 interception. Pro Bowls tell me very little. By your "Pro Bowl logic", London Fletcher needs OTAs more than anyone because he has yet to go to Hawaii despite having more than a decade to make one.

"Landry's been a Pro only two years and needs the OTAs more than Haynesworth does."

Wrong again. Landry's been in this defense for going on 3 years. Haynesworth has been in this defense for 3 minutes. Stands to reason, the new guy needs more reps than the guy who's been in the building for 2 years.

"Every other player on the squad is at OTAs, including the players who have gone to Pro Bowls."

That may be the case this year, but Shawn Springs was NEVER at OTAs during his time here. And I recall some up here (myself included) giving him a hard time about it.

"But your underlying fallacy is in believing that Taylor, Woodson were good BECAUSE they skipped OTAs."

I never said that. What I'm saying is that missing OTAs isn't going to make you a bad player. OTAs are helpful and DO make you a better player. You're just not light years behind everyone else if you don't go like you're making it sound.

"OTA's make you a better player and they make the team a better team. That's why the coaches hold them and that's why they expect the players to participate. And Landry needs to become a better player. Again, how many Pro Bowls has he gone to?"

Again...Pro Bowls means nothing. London Fletcher is no worse a player or any less important to the Redskins because he's never made a Pro Bowl. Riggins is in the Hall of Fame and went to only one. If you're using a popularity contest to rank Redskins, that's some REALLY faulty logic because a mediocre team with a media bias against it isn't going to curry a lot of favor with the voters unless they talk a good game (see Portis, Clinton).

Bottom line is just like you and I not answering the phone when the boss wants us to work the weekend, Laron not getting back to Zorn right away isn't the end of the world. Just because you're not the perfect employee doesn't mean you're not a good one.

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 11, 2009 6:56 PM | Report abuse

The comment on the coach's daughter was made purely for humor. Although it would be nice if he was man enough to admit just what the mistake he made was instead of making up a lie about it.

The other comment was to give a little context to the situation for the people who are all in an uproar just because e signed two draft picks who are LIKELY to be inconsequential anyway. Personally, I hope they turn out to be diamonds in the rough, and turn into solid players for the Redskins.

Posted by: kaasmaster | June 11, 2009 6:58 PM | Report abuse

"But your underlying fallacy is in believing that Taylor, Woodson were good BECAUSE they skipped OTAs."

Only he didn't say that.

Many good players hate OTA's (and feel they benefit not a whit from them), but attend anyway because they think they should.

I suspect that's what people want Landry to do. Well, he showed up. Happy?

Of course not.

I'd say the underlying fallacy is that think OTA's make the player better.

Fighting the good fight against sanctimony...

Posted by: Samson151 | June 11, 2009 7:12 PM | Report abuse

I'd say the underlying fallacy is that think OTA's make the player better.

Posted by: Samson151 | June 11, 2009 7:12 PM

The point of the OTA's is to help the players be more prepared by giving them a head start on learning the offense/defense before training camp begins. One might argue that being more prepared makes the player better. No one is so good that they can't impove. Zorn and Blache have been introducing new aspects of both the offense and defense. Anyone who is not there will be behind when training camp starts. The coaching staff will then have to waste time by teaching the new concepts to those who weren't at OTA's instead of going straight into teaching new material.

Posted by: kaasmaster | June 11, 2009 7:29 PM | Report abuse

My opinion is that OTAs benefit players who are young, not familiar with the system or that need to work together as a unit.

Will the OTAs help Albert? Not much because there just isn't that much to learn for a DT. But he will meet his teammates in a less demanding environment than camp

Will London Fletcher benefit? No, because he knows his job cold. But many players will benefit because he communicates what needs to be done and that rapport helps.

Will Carlos Rogers benefit? Yes, updated schemes and all.

Will LaRon benefit? Yes, because the safeties/DBs work as a unit and he has only 2 years experience (less at FS).

Which is why LaRon should have been there. And if he couldn't make it, he should have called.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | June 11, 2009 7:30 PM | Report abuse

See, I need to improve my typing.
And my proofreading (and grammer).

Posted by: kaasmaster | June 11, 2009 7:33 PM | Report abuse

In my opinion, (which of course doesn't realy count for squat) the owners should demand an increase in the number of manditory offseason team practices in the next contract with the NFLPA, and end this whole business of voulantary workouts. That would eliminate this whole discussion.

Posted by: kaasmaster | June 11, 2009 7:43 PM | Report abuse

In my opinion, (which of course doesn't realy count for squat) the owners should demand an increase in the number of manditory offseason team practices in the next contract with the NFLPA, and end this whole business of voulantary workouts. That would eliminate this whole discussion.

Posted by: kaasmaster | June 11, 2009 7:43 PM

OR...you could give players a proper offseason so that you can schedule as many mandatory practices you want this time of year. Spacing it out and doing mandatory and voluntary and what not is dumb. Give 'em off during the spring and then hit 'em with mandatory practices in shorts in June. Then training camp in July. These guys punish their bodies way too much and need the time to heal.

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 11, 2009 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Either way it's going to require a change to the CBA. In the current agreement, teams are limited in the amount of manditory offseason workouts. The voulantary OTA's create this silly situation we've been discussing too long in this blog, which doesn't have any provable resolution. The rules say that players don't have to show up, and don't have to communicate with the team. So you can argue that payers have no ethical reason to do either. You can also argue that these are highly paid professionals who ethically should show up for the sake of their team, or at least inform the team of their intentions. Thats the problem with ethics. You can usually use them to support both sides of an issue.

Posted by: kaasmaster | June 11, 2009 8:07 PM | Report abuse

From the previous post about Zorn's thinking:

"His hope is that this season, with everyone understanding his offense better and more depth on the offensive line and at wide receiver, the offense will be a little more expansive."

...more depth on the offensive line?!?!

Posted by: p1funk | June 11, 2009 8:12 PM | Report abuse

OTAs are practice.

And in this blog, we got dudes aping about practice.

Which is cool, of course.

But with the NBA Finals coming to an end, let's lay out some chatta for an in season sport.

We take the Magic winning tonite's contest.

D Howard is due for a monster game.

I'm still taking the Magic to win the series. There's nothing better than seeing the bandwagon Lakers' fanbase shaking in its boots at the thought of their boy Kobe not getting the job done.

Okay--let's go back to yakking about practice.

Posted by: MistaMoe | June 11, 2009 8:14 PM | Report abuse

"...the owners should demand an increase in the number of manditory offseason team practices in the next contract with the NFLPA..."


Why?

Let the players go live their lives.

Pro Football is year round as it is, what, fans need more info about drills and missed workouts?

The owners would do well to re-establish a spring football league (a la NFL Europe) where some of these undrafted guys and fringe quarterbacks can get some reps: that's a more pressing issue than dudes practicing when there are no games.

Posted by: MistaMoe | June 11, 2009 8:18 PM | Report abuse

There's nothing better than seeing the bandwagon Lakers' fanbase shaking in its boots ...

Posted by: MistaMoe | June 11, 2009 8:14 PM

I got you b*tch m0thaf*ckas a shakin',
in your boots cause you musta be fakin. Listen to the sh*t that we be makin,
evil like that m0thaf*cka Satin.

Posted by: AntonChigurh | June 11, 2009 8:35 PM | Report abuse

"...the owners should demand an increase in the number of manditory offseason team practices in the next contract with the NFLPA..."

Why?

Let the players go live their lives.

Pro Football is year round as it is, what, fans need more info about drills and missed workouts?

The owners would do well to re-establish a spring football league (a la NFL Europe) where some of these undrafted guys and fringe quarterbacks can get some reps: that's a more pressing issue than dudes practicing when there are no games.


Posted by: MistaMoe | June 11, 2009 8:18 PM

The teams are going to have the practices anyway, weather they are manditory or not. Since they are not manditory, when someone doesn't show up there is always going to be some hard feelings on the part of the coaches and players who feel like everyone SHOULD show up. Making all practices manditory would simply end any ambiguity about who "needs" to be there.

I do agree that the NFL would benefit from some sort of developmental league.

Posted by: kaasmaster | June 11, 2009 8:43 PM | Report abuse

The reason Landry skipped OTAs uncovered courtesy of WaPo articulation of obvious:

"Landry is expected to be a linchpin of the Redskins' defense, which finished fourth in the league last year and added superstar defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth to the mix."

Its about the politics (small p) of leadership ... and threats thereto, such as. Fletcher on top ... who backs that up on the field? Landry v. Haynesworth. [Think "Highlander" where Fletcher = Sean Connery.] Its all good.

4th, B(greg), zce are hasty impulse judgmentalizers. Don't bother asking me to cut/paste my evidences. Its all good. LaRon is back and in the fold.

Did I mention that I'm currently a Rodriguez?

Posted by: dcsween | June 11, 2009 11:07 PM | Report abuse

"The point of the OTA's is to help the players be more prepared by giving them a head start on learning the offense/defense before training camp begins. One might argue that being more prepared makes the player better. No one is so good that they can't impove. Zorn and Blache have been introducing new aspects of both the offense and defense. Anyone who is not there will be behind when training camp starts. The coaching staff will then have to waste time by teaching the new concepts to those who weren't at OTA's instead of going straight into teaching new material.
Posted by: kaasmaster"

Not to be contrary, but if it's so helpful, why do players dislike it so much? The veterans, I mean.

I wonder if it's not one of those things that society makes people do just because they think it's good for them, even if for most, it isn't.

Like high school.

Posted by: Samson151 | June 11, 2009 11:35 PM | Report abuse

4th, B(greg), zce are hasty impulse judgmentalizers. Don't bother asking me to cut/paste my evidences. Its all good. LaRon is back and in the fold.

Posted by: dcsween

I'm not judgmental, you twit.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | June 12, 2009 12:42 AM | Report abuse

Not to be contrary, but if it's so helpful, why do players dislike it so much? The veterans, I mean.

I wonder if it's not one of those things that society makes people do just because they think it's good for them, even if for most, it isn't.

Like high school.

Posted by: Samson151 | June 11, 2009 11:35 PM

I think that it makes a big difference what the current team situation is as to how important it is for the veterans to show up for OTA's. If the team has long term stability with the coaching staff, and has been running the same system for several years, then I doubt that the veterans on the team realy get much benefit. Plus there is always the possibility of getting injured.

But for teams like the 'Skins who seem to have a revolving door for coaches, and a new system to learn every other year, then I think it is more important to have everybody on hand as much as possible for maximum learning opportunity.

Posted by: kaasmaster | June 12, 2009 1:25 AM | Report abuse

The following is courtesy of Stanley Kubrick's "Full Metal Jacket", [names/words] changed to suit the circumstances. This is the conversation Zorn hopefully had w/ LL:

"Whose side are you on, son?"
"Our side, sir."
"[REDSKIN]!"
"Yes, sir."
"Don't you love your [team]?"
"Yes, I do, sir."
"Then how about getting with the program? Why don't you jump on the team and come in for the big win?"
[LL] still manages to keep a straight face.
"I'm certainly ready to do that, sir."

The [coach] leans closer and lowers his voice, "Son, we've all got to keep our heads until this [Cowboys] craze blows over."
[LL] makes a serious face to consider the full implications of this statement. "Yes, sir."
The [coach] tries to think of something more inspiring to say, but he hasn't got it.

[LL] is saved from further difficulty by
several mortar rounds that come in about 50 yards
away, BANG! BANG! BANG! everyone dives for
cover. In the ensuing shouting and confusion, [LL] and [Fred Davis] take off.

At least, that's how I think it went...except mb w/o the mortar rounds... or not.

Hail!

Posted by: hogmeister | June 12, 2009 3:23 AM | Report abuse

I still have yet to see the end of Full Metal Jacket...my brother and I just love watching the beginning when all the soldiers get cussed out during training. I've never bothered to watch past the time Vincent D'Onofrio plugs the sargeant and himself in the bathroom.

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 12, 2009 5:45 AM | Report abuse

This place is dead anyway...

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 12, 2009 8:08 AM | Report abuse

Guess I'll just instigate another argument with T_E by reposting my reply from last night:

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 12, 2009 8:10 AM | Report abuse

Rebuttal time for T_E. Categorically:

"They didn't even have OTAs when Rod Woodson played. Of course he missed them."

Dude didn't play when there were leather helmets. He retired 5 years ago. When there were OTAs. That was a lot less off-season workouts and what not when he was a rookie, but there were definitely OTAs during his playing days.

"You comparing Landry to Taylor and Haynesworth. What a joke. How many Pro Bowls has Landry been in?"

That remark is a joke because Taylor had no Pro Bowls his first two years as well. He didn't magically start making Pro Bowls because he went to OTAs. In fact, the Pro Bowl is such a joke that Taylor first made the trip to Hawaii in '06 after the worst statistical season for the Redskins defense since the Spurrier debacle. Dude had a whopping 1 interception. Pro Bowls tell me very little. By your "Pro Bowl logic", London Fletcher needs OTAs more than anyone because he has yet to go to Hawaii despite having more than a decade to make one.

"Landry's been a Pro only two years and needs the OTAs more than Haynesworth does."

Wrong again. Landry's been in this defense for going on 3 years. Haynesworth has been in this defense for 3 minutes. Stands to reason, the new guy needs more reps than the guy who's been in the building for 2 years.

"Every other player on the squad is at OTAs, including the players who have gone to Pro Bowls."

That may be the case this year, but Shawn Springs was NEVER at OTAs during his time here. And I recall some up here (myself included) giving him a hard time about it.

"But your underlying fallacy is in believing that Taylor, Woodson were good BECAUSE they skipped OTAs."

I never said that. What I'm saying is that missing OTAs isn't going to make you a bad player. OTAs are helpful and DO make you a better player. You're just not light years behind everyone else if you don't go like you're making it sound.

"OTA's make you a better player and they make the team a better team. That's why the coaches hold them and that's why they expect the players to participate. And Landry needs to become a better player. Again, how many Pro Bowls has he gone to?"

Again...Pro Bowls means nothing. London Fletcher is no worse a player or any less important to the Redskins because he's never made a Pro Bowl. Riggins is in the Hall of Fame and went to only one. If you're using a popularity contest to rank Redskins, that's some REALLY faulty logic because a mediocre team with a media bias against it isn't going to curry a lot of favor with the voters unless they talk a good game (see Portis, Clinton).

Bottom line is just like you and I not answering the phone when the boss wants us to work the weekend, Laron not getting back to Zorn right away isn't the end of the world. Just because you're not the perfect employee doesn't mean you're not a good one.

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 12, 2009 8:10 AM | Report abuse

Glenn was a fifth-round pick (No. 158 overall) out of Nebraska. ...

Contract details were not availalble.

By Cindy Boren | June 11, 2009; 6:08 PM ET

Glenn, however, explained to the media that his contract contains incentives in the form of a block of first level seats at cost.

Posted by: dcsween | June 12, 2009 8:25 AM | Report abuse

Which is why LaRon should have been there. And if he couldn't make it, he should have called.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | June 11, 2009 7:30 PM

I'm not judgmental, you twit.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | June 12, 2009 12:42 AM

Posted by: dcsween | June 12, 2009 8:27 AM | Report abuse

Wow T_E...you just LOVE to argue, don't you?

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 10, 2009 6:25 AM |


Guess I'll just instigate another argument with T_E by reposting my reply from last night:

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 12, 2009 8:10 AM |

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 12, 2009 8:39 AM | Report abuse

Touche, T_E. But instigating something to jump start the blog and arguing for the sake of arguing are very different...

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 12, 2009 8:41 AM | Report abuse

Eff the Lakers.

That makes TWO titles Kobe shouldn't have won....

2002 - Horry's miracle and the screwjob in game 6

2009 - Lee's two misses, Howard and SVG choking, Fisher bails him out AGAIN.

Dude is overrated in the clutch.... sure hell make shots in the 4th quarter in February... but what has he done in the playoffs or actually at the buzzer?

Posted by: Rypien11 | June 12, 2009 8:42 AM | Report abuse

"But for teams like the 'Skins who seem to have a revolving door for coaches, and a new system to learn every other year, then I think it is more important to have everybody on hand as much as possible for maximum learning opportunity.Posted by: kaasmaster"

Sounds great, except hasn't DC Greg Blache been in Washington since 2004? Same for DB coach Steve Jackson? And the scheme may be simpler than it was under Greg Williams, but isn't it essentially the same?

Yes to all the above, I believe.

The NFL has been playing games for quite a while now with 'organized team activities' and time-consuming 'voluntary' sessions that are somehow supposed to be something other than 'practices'.

Posted by: Samson151 | June 12, 2009 8:50 AM | Report abuse

"4th, B(greg), zce are hasty impulse judgmentalizers"

Not sure what thats about, but whatevs...no drama on Friday.

Glad Landry showed up, and thats behind the team.

Moe, both pitchers deserved to win last night, CC moreso that Penn, but each guy pitched really well.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | June 12, 2009 8:50 AM | Report abuse

But instigating something to jump start the blog and arguing for the sake of arguing are very different...

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 12, 2009 8:41 AM |


'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean - neither more nor less.'

--Lewis Carroll

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 12, 2009 8:52 AM | Report abuse

Back to football, was anyone else surprised to see the Times' headline this morning that Zorn has proclaimed Horton the starter at strong safety?

This on the heels of the Post article detailing how SS would be one of the key position battles at training camp.

D'OH!

Posted by: McMetal | June 12, 2009 9:05 AM | Report abuse

'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean - neither more nor less.'

--Lewis Carroll

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 12, 2009 8:52 AM

I got quotes too:

"When your son is born, is he already on parole?"

--Mooj from "The 40 year-old Virgin"

oh, and one of my favorites:

"Forgiveness is divine, but never pay full price for cold pizza."

--Michaelangelo from "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles"

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 12, 2009 9:12 AM | Report abuse

brown, my favorite line from 40 yr old, is "go hump a goat"...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | June 12, 2009 9:16 AM | Report abuse

Yeah Greg, I love when Mooj says, "I'll pray for your cock". I swear if they give that guy his own movie I'd see it in the theater and buy the DVD! That dude was the funniest part of that movie IMHO.

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 12, 2009 9:19 AM | Report abuse

4th, B(greg), zce are hasty impulse judgmentalizers. Don't bother asking me to cut/paste my evidences. Its all good. LaRon is back and in the fold.

Did I mention that I'm currently a Rodriguez?

Posted by: dcsween | June 11, 2009 11:07 PM

Show me. Especielly the post where I said it will matter only if we go 4-12 and not if we are winning.

I said OTAs are important overall. I said Vinny called his agent to tell him come atleast for the last OTA. I called his explaination BS, but that's because more than half the qoutes by players and coaches are BS overall, and I say that all the time.

I don't hast to judgement like alot do. Prime Example - Heyer, the WR, and the offense will do much better as I have stated forever. But others hastly knock all of them.......

Posted by: 4thFloor | June 12, 2009 9:25 AM | Report abuse

Regarding Last year from JZ himself:

"Our installations this year were tremendous," he said on the last day of OTAs before training camp. "Last year even the coaches didn't know the offense. I was the only one who could go, 'No! That's not right!'"

The newness of the offense and Campbell's lack of experience in it led Zorn to refrain from using certain elements. For example, it was clear after some time that having Campbell drop back seven steps from the line of scrimmage (a key element in the West Coast offense) was not working and that he had to use shorter drops. His hope is that this season, with everyone understanding his offense better and more depth on the offensive line and at wide receiver, the offense will be a little more expansive.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/zorn-praises-offenses-developm.html

===========================================

But yet everyone wants to bash the rookie WRs. Where is the hasty decisions being made now?

Posted by: 4thFloor | June 12, 2009 9:31 AM | Report abuse

"Women. You can't live with them. Pass the pretzels."

-Norm

Posted by: Original_etrod | June 12, 2009 9:34 AM | Report abuse

If, if, if... Ryp, how many buzzer beaters did Jordan hit in championship games? Should MJ not have a championship because the ref didn't call his push off on Bryon Russell? Those things happen in sports. If you don't like Kobe say so and leave it at that. But don't talk as if he is not one of the best to ever do it. You just sound ridiculous. Last night, Kobe, like MJ to Paxon or Kerr, made the assist on the winning shot in OT.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | June 12, 2009 9:43 AM | Report abuse

F Orlando, I wish I was watching a LaBron v Kobe match up. How can you not get back on D with a lead and 4 seconds left? Fischer unguarded in a big spot is going to hit that shot every time.

Orlando is d-o-n-e

Posted by: chrislarry | June 12, 2009 9:54 AM | Report abuse

LaBron needs a team to go with his name before he can get a chance to win in the Finals.

They should have kept Rafer Alston in there for the 4th and OT instead of Nelson is where I see their downfall. There was no wisdom on the court....

Posted by: 4thFloor | June 12, 2009 9:59 AM | Report abuse

While i don't disagree that LaBron needs a better team, I still think if they were playing in this series it would be more fun to watch.

Posted by: chrislarry | June 12, 2009 10:01 AM | Report abuse

Just got my Season tickets upgraded!! Wooo Hooo!! Better seats and a better parking pass!!

Titanya: But Duffman, you said if I slept with you I wouldn't have to touch the drunk!
Duffman: Duffman... says a lot of things! Oh, yeah!

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | June 12, 2009 10:12 AM | Report abuse

This series is so much better to watch than a boring a-ss Cleveland series. Cleveland's a 2nd-tier team, they might be the least entertaining team in the playoffs, and they would have been trounced by LA. I seriously can't fathom how people like watching one player dribble the ball for 20 straight seconds at the top of the key, then get fouled on his way to the hoop.

As for the game last night, what a crushing loss. Just dumb, dumb mistakes down the stretch that killed them. Missed free throws. Slowed tempo. Not fouling when a team is down 2 with 11 seconds to go and a full court with which to work. Defending behind the 3-point line when you're up 3 with 5 seconds to go. No less than 5 in-bound attempts that were executed inconceivably bad.

Still, at least it was a highly entertaining game.

Posted by: psps23 | June 12, 2009 10:16 AM | Report abuse

Learned - Bottom line is Kobe has won two titles now on luck. Luck on freak plays and OTHER people on his team stepping up and hitting huge shots, and the other team choking.

Jordan WON games, he didn't fall into championships cause the other team bailed him out and his teammates carried him.

Shouldn't have even gone to OT last night. Magic GAVE it away. Its on Howard and Nelson, its nothing the Lakers or Kobe did. Just lake game 2 when lee missed 2 shots within 5 feet.

I know I'm in the minority, but I don't consider it a "pushoff" on Russell. MJ had his whole body/momentum leaning to the right and had his hand opened on Russells hip. That would make him the strongest guy on earth if it was a pushoff. If you watch it again, you see that Russell wasn't squared up, he was running TOWARDS the sideline (his feet facing to the left), and its HIS momentum that keeps him going since he tried to stop on a time when MJ pulled up.

Leverage? Maybe. Pushoff? I dont think so.

Posted by: Rypien11 | June 12, 2009 10:22 AM | Report abuse

PSP, I agree... LeBron is gonna have to get some major help before he can win it all. Phil would have shut him down and the rest of the Cavs would have been dominated.

Magic just weren't ready yet, and I think its a shame cause I think theyre actually a better team than the Lakers overall. Theyll win game 5 but it will be over in 6.

Posted by: Rypien11 | June 12, 2009 10:30 AM | Report abuse

I'm disappointed in Orlando...I was a big Magic fan when they went to the Finals in '95 and they're just not ready this time around. They got some bad breaks in '95, but now their superstar just isn't getting it done offensively. He's dominant on D, but I think Orlando needs another dominant scorer to get over the hump.

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 12, 2009 10:33 AM | Report abuse

I am bored by Orlando. Stanley Cup finals way more entertaining. Even if I do hate both teams.

Posted by: chrislarry | June 12, 2009 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Some interesting information for any of you Skins fans within distance of Ashburn on Saturday.

http://www.broadlandshoa.org/hoaforum/showthread.php?t=16277

And be VERY afraid. My company seems to have won the security infrastructure contract for Redskins Park!!

Posted by: Redcoat | June 12, 2009 10:49 AM | Report abuse

that's what you do, draft and then sign.

the more i hear the haters complain the more i want Glenn, Williams, and everyone else to succeed.

and, I told you Williams was a FB and not a TE, wah.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | June 12, 2009 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Falcons released Vick. We better sign him to be our slot receiver, kick returner and X factor on offense ASAP.

Posted by: 4seamed | June 12, 2009 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Trade Portis

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | June 12, 2009 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Say NO to PETA at Redskins Park. Say NO to Vick!

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 12, 2009 11:16 AM | Report abuse

"Bottom line is Kobe has won two titles now on luck. Luck on freak plays and OTHER people on his team stepping up and hitting huge shots, and the other team choking."


Was that girl in Colorado your sister or something? This is laughable. You lose all credibility regarding basketball when you make statements like this. So Shaq doesn't deserve any credit for those chips either? Kobe avg'd 26, 5, and 5 during those championship playoff runs. But I will let you keep believing that Fisher, Horry and Fox could have done it without him.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | June 12, 2009 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Trade Portis

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | June 12, 2009 11:15 AM | Report abuse


Im not 100% thats a stupid idea. I wonder what the trade value would be.

Posted by: CheyenneWY | June 12, 2009 11:19 AM | Report abuse

what the crap...I hope your kidding....If you're not, I take back what I said...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | June 12, 2009 11:22 AM | Report abuse

Trade Portis for Pierce...

Posted by: CheyenneWY | June 12, 2009 11:23 AM | Report abuse

The Keith Eloi truck jump is on ESPN First Take...

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 12, 2009 11:30 AM | Report abuse

They're interviewing him, I mean.

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 12, 2009 11:32 AM | Report abuse

I still have yet to see the end of Full Metal Jacket...my brother and I just love watching the beginning when all the soldiers get cussed out during training. I've never bothered to watch past the time Vincent D'Onofrio plugs the sargeant and himself in the bathroom.

Posted by: brownwood26

Like other non-classic Kubrick films, it may not be a great movie, but it has great moments. Few directors conveyed the distance of combat as well as he did. When the base is attacked in Strangelove, the battle starts at the distance a lot of combat is, but few moviemakers show.

The last third of "Jacket" has some of that too, some great suspense, and a vicious twist that brings home a recurring theme of his--the madness of war. Not as vividly as Slim Pickins' ridin' a nuke or the insanity of the trial of the soldiers in Paths of Glory, but good stuff.

Another great combat movie too many people overlook: "The Big Red One" directed by Sam Fuller, with Lee Marvin.

Wake me when the blog is back.

Posted by: TheCork | June 12, 2009 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Wake me when the blog is back.

Posted by: TheCork | June 12, 2009 11:34 AM

Make that "wake me IF the blog comes back."

Someone ought to check and see if Redskin.com has bought RI.

Posted by: TheCork | June 12, 2009 11:37 AM | Report abuse

But for Full Metal Jacket, we probably would have never heard of 2 Live Crew.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | June 12, 2009 11:38 AM | Report abuse

I'm saying Kobe would not have won in 2002 without the luckiest play in NBA history (Horry) or the FIXED game 6.

Nor would he have won this year without Lee missing and Howard/SVG chokes and Fisher.

If I recall correctly, Shaq was the MVP in all those finals, not Kobe.

You can't possibly say the Lakers haven't gotten lucky this finals or in 2002.

Posted by: Rypien11 | June 12, 2009 11:42 AM | Report abuse

shhhhhhhhh.....no one wake up corky.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | June 12, 2009 11:48 AM | Report abuse

"You can't possibly say the Lakers haven't gotten lucky this finals or in 2002."

Just like in any other team sport, you need players to stay healthy and to have a good share of luck.

Look at the Celtics, they had the injuries. Where might they be had Garnett been healthy?

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | June 12, 2009 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Holy poop!

Did you see the size of Landry's arms in that new photo of him? That dude is gonna kill someone this year. He may even end up hitting harder than I used to.

Posted by: Alvin_Walton | June 12, 2009 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Its almost like a guy can't blog under the influence any more. Here is what inspired by BUI last night about moralizations ...
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I'll 2nd your BS!

Posted by: 4thFloor | June 11, 2009 3:51 PM
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The mature player shows up. If personal issues come up, you call the team -- not hope the team calls you. ...

Posted by: zcezcest1 | June 11, 2009 4:02 PM
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He is just an overpaid classless thug ...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | June 11, 2009 4:17

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I should have just gone to sleep after reading cload's measured response ...

So, I'll repeat -- I'm 23 years old, and the boss is calling to see if I can come in and work the weekend.
And you're criticizing me for strolling in on Monday claiming that I've switched phone numbers?

Posted by: daggar | June 11, 2009 4:03 PM

Posted by: dcsween | June 12, 2009 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Shaq was MVP but Kobe was essential. The Lakers don't win those championships without him. And missed shots are not luck. They happen all of the time. Lee's shot was not an easy one. Go look at the replay. His head is nearly under the backboard and his momentum is carrying him under the basket when he catches and releases the shot. Do you think the Lakers would be in the Finals this year or last without Jack Bauer?

I suggest you read this: http://20secondtimeout.blogspot.com/2009/06/kobe-bryants-nba-finals-resume.html

Posted by: learnedhand1 | June 12, 2009 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Holy poop!

Did you see the size of Landry's arms in that new photo of him? That dude is gonna kill someone this year. He may even end up hitting harder than I used to.

Posted by: Alvin_Walton | June 12, 2009 11:52 AM

Is the photo newer than this one?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_t9D_ovmGhQE/Rq-Y5MJw_tI/AAAAAAAAKS4/i_nWYbePvMc/s400/LaRon+Landry.jpg

Posted by: dcsween | June 12, 2009 11:59 AM | Report abuse

"Look at the Celtics, they had the injuries. Where might they be had Garnett been healthy?"

And on the same note, how would Orlando be doing in this series if they had the real Jameer Nelson playing (and not the one-armed, no-shot, rehab victim that's out there now).

Posted by: psps23 | June 12, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

"Last year even the coaches didn't know the offense. I was the only one who could go, 'No! That's not right!'"

That is a sad thing to have to say. It says that he is the only one who knows the WCO and he is teaching the coaches along with the troops. You never should have to give NFL coaches on the job training. Given this state of affairs, it is amazing that the team was 8-8 in 2008. Overall the Skins have above average talent and below average coaches. Look for a reorg after 2009 with a new HC who can come in and assemble a knowledgeable staff on both sides of the ball.

Posted by: AntonChigurh | June 12, 2009 12:02 PM | Report abuse

How were you able to photoshop his head on my body? That's impressive, sween.

Posted by: psps23 | June 12, 2009 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Lakers are up 3-1 cause Orlando missed a layup and a free throw.

Thats nothing the Lakers did. Thats Orlando blowing it.

It wont matter, Kobe will get his ring, but this will not be remembered as a great team or a great series by him.

Guys been scoring 33/game on 28 shots/game, 43% shooting, 2-1 TO to assist ratio, not great in the clutch (game 3 awful, game 4 4-13 with 3 TOs from 4th on). Game 1 he was great, otherwise hasn't done much.

Posted by: Rypien11 | June 12, 2009 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Ah, Greg, everyone knows you just want to trade Portis for bonus points.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | June 12, 2009 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Holy poop!

Did you see the size of Landry's arms in that new photo of him? That dude is gonna kill someone this year. He may even end up hitting harder than I used to.

Posted by: Alvin_Walton | June 12, 2009 11:52 AM

Sniff. Sniff. Sniff. Is that poop or peds that are making my Spidey olfactory nerves tingle?

Posted by: AntonChigurh | June 12, 2009 12:07 PM | Report abuse

I was wondering what the heck you were talking about regarding a 'Rodriguez'. I am unfamilair with that drink. Sorry for the misinterpretation......

Posted by: 4thFloor | June 12, 2009 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Holy poop!

Did you see the size of Landry's arms in that new photo of him? That dude is gonna kill someone this year. He may even end up hitting harder than I used to.

Posted by: Alvin_Walton | June 12, 2009 11:52 AM

No chance that's really Laron. I've seen him in his jersey and that's not the same set of arms. Lamarr Woodley doesn't even have arms that big and his guns are bigger than my thighs.

Besides, no chance he gets trucked by Jacobs if he was toting guns like that. He could clothesline the entire O-line of the opponent with one arm and throw Jacobs into the Hudson if his arms were REALLY that big!

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 12, 2009 12:13 PM | Report abuse

I see that LaRon finally had Brandon Jacobs cleat marks removed from his chest.

Posted by: NCMatt1 | June 12, 2009 12:31 PM | Report abuse

beep beep (4th, check rightway)

Posted by: dcsween | June 12, 2009 12:32 PM | Report abuse

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