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Skins Take Orakpo

Skins told him throughout the process that he would be their guy at 13. And it turns out that was a the case. He was a bigtime target who slipped to 13.

I would have taken Michael Oher with him on the board, but this kid will play DE/LB right away, and that's a big need.

By Jason La Canfora  |  April 25, 2009; 5:33 PM ET
 
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Comments

Defense for Skins could be FIRST this year

Posted by: Curzon417 | April 25, 2009 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Not my first choice, but glad they got someone good.

Now I can go outside!

Posted by: fitzroysq | April 25, 2009 5:36 PM | Report abuse

So what other positions do we need still? We did get the punter signed and got an RT last night. What's left?

Posted by: jiacinto | April 25, 2009 5:36 PM | Report abuse

like the pick.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | April 25, 2009 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Im stoked

Posted by: Tyler84101 | April 25, 2009 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Good Pick, I just hope he's not too small. He's giving up about 40 lbs to most NFC East O-Lineman

Posted by: SwiftIT | April 25, 2009 5:37 PM | Report abuse

If the Skins got Oher, JLC would've said he wanted Orakpo.

Posted by: rich20ssu | April 25, 2009 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Good pick,,,,

Posted by: dashriprock | April 25, 2009 5:37 PM | Report abuse

take the best RT at #80. unless we trade up.

Posted by: Rypien11 | April 25, 2009 5:37 PM | Report abuse

oher orakpo...i would have taken the T as i think that the bigger need...but i guess we got one of the two guys we really wanted/needed...

hail

Posted by: deadskin | April 25, 2009 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Still need an o-lineman. Guess it'll happen tomorrow

Posted by: Predator48 | April 25, 2009 5:37 PM | Report abuse

That will work! Great pick! Welcome to DC Orakpo! Let's get to work!

Posted by: tejr3575 | April 25, 2009 5:37 PM | Report abuse

YEAH - they didn't screw up the pick! A good day for skins everywhere

Posted by: Stevida | April 25, 2009 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Not a bad pick. We should finally have a pass rush this year

Posted by: caps512 | April 25, 2009 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Not a bad pick. We should finally have a pass rush this year

Posted by: caps512 | April 25, 2009 5:37 PM | Report abuse

yesssssssssssss!!!!!! great pick

Posted by: AhsanFamily | April 25, 2009 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Love this pick! Deion just interviewed Orakpo on the NFL Network and he said he was hoping the Skins would draft him....said he loved the area, loved the coaches, and was thrilled.

Posted by: Lisa_R | April 25, 2009 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Fantastic! Patience is a virtue and Danny and Vinny seem to be learning as much. Good for them!

Posted by: drischord | April 25, 2009 5:38 PM | Report abuse

So how do they fit Carter and Orakpo? 3rd down both are in. But who plays on 1st and 2nd?

Posted by: frediefritz | April 25, 2009 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Well back to my yard work. See you guys tomorrow!

Posted by: Predator48 | April 25, 2009 5:38 PM | Report abuse

I wouldn't consider mike williams a legit RT. He was loading boxes at UPS last Thursday.

Posted by: rich20ssu | April 25, 2009 5:39 PM | Report abuse

They finally got one right.

Posted by: fufighter2121 | April 25, 2009 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Nothing against Orakpo at all, but did Snyder and Cerrato not notice that our O-Line was awful last season? And they are all a year older and we added only one player, Dockery, in the offseason. Samuels coming off surgery. And our plan is to band-aid it and hope for the best.

I don't understand at all...

Posted by: mrizzle | April 25, 2009 5:39 PM | Report abuse

EXCELLENT PICK FOR THE ORGANIZATION. GOOD JOB VINNIE AND DANNY

Posted by: wattsicon | April 25, 2009 5:39 PM | Report abuse

finally did something right

Posted by: aypub | April 25, 2009 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Everyone knew our number one need, hands down, was to A) give JC better pass protection, and B) give him a second WR. So, we pass on a guy who would have been both an immediate big time upgrade at RT, and a potential replacement for Samuels at LT. Hope the extra sacks offset what we lost.

Posted by: kenboy1 | April 25, 2009 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Would have preferred Oher, but not completely blowing the pick has to be considered a huge victory for these guys.

Posted by: elscorcho | April 25, 2009 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Great pick need an edge rusher may be Dan is growing up as an owner. Thanks Dan for being wise for a change build up your lines then go from there

Posted by: donaldtaylor | April 25, 2009 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Thank you Al Davis for making alot of this possible! Nice pick, maybe a stout LT can be found in the 3rd.

Posted by: ga8085 | April 25, 2009 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Mixed feelings, cause I want O-line so much, but was concerned about the noise about Oher's knee issues... This looks like a great addition for the D-line... and should help allow Albert to wreak havoc.

Posted by: chasgiffen | April 25, 2009 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Rich20, you're spot on.

BTW, Albert Haynesworth is the highest paid defensive player in the NFL.

Posted by: MyJobsMyCredit | April 25, 2009 5:39 PM | Report abuse

LaCanfora's an idiot as usual. We didnt take a RT with the 13th pick. Oher is a LT which we didnt need. RT will be addressed in round 3 as appropriate. Go Skins! Great pick with Orakpo. He should start at RDE. Move Carter to LDE.

Posted by: tramellcanady | April 25, 2009 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Good pick. I'm really comfortable with any player recommended by the defensive staff. They understand how to use a player's ability to his best.

Posted by: TWISI | April 25, 2009 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Everyone knew our number one need, hands down, was to A) give JC better pass protection, and B) give him a second WR. So, we pass on a guy who would have been both an immediate big time upgrade at RT, and a potential replacement for Samuels at LT. Hope the extra sacks we get from Orakpo offset what we lost on offense.

Posted by: kenboy1 | April 25, 2009 5:40 PM | Report abuse

W/ no 2nd Rd pick, I still would have rather had OT.
But hey, they also said we needed a pass rushing DE, so it does appear to be a "good" selection.

Last year we chose Rhinehardt in the 3rd rd, correct?
Has he shown any promise yet?

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | April 25, 2009 5:40 PM | Report abuse

nice! maybe we can trade with the Jets for Sanchez!

jokes...great pick, what we needed!

Posted by: skinsfaninsanfran | April 25, 2009 5:40 PM | Report abuse

jlc you can't help but be a dooshbag can you

Posted by: jonthefisherman | April 25, 2009 5:40 PM | Report abuse

I'm liking this pick since we have Haynesworth.

Posted by: kuruption_20877 | April 25, 2009 5:41 PM | Report abuse

You can never have too many pass rushers...Look at the Giants

Posted by: SwiftIT | April 25, 2009 5:41 PM | Report abuse

I think this is a high risk, high reward pick. He has a history of knee injuries, but he is a beast when healthy. I like it. I think they needed to reach with the 13th pick and they may end up with the best defensive player from this draft. Now, let's see how creative Blache can be with how he uses him. I bet he won't sleep tonight.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | April 25, 2009 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Positive move. I would have thought they would have waited until the end of the clock to evaluate all trade options but at least we filled a need.

Posted by: iowakerr | April 25, 2009 5:41 PM | Report abuse

So what other positions do we need still? We did get the punter signed and got an RT last night. What's left?

Posted by: jiacinto
No, we got a guy who plays T who hasn't played in like, what, 2 years? He probably wont even make the team. The better find a LT in round 3, is all I can say.

Posted by: kenboy1 | April 25, 2009 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Finally something good happens to us in a draft where a player we really need actually fell to us. Congrats to danny boy and vinny for not screwing this one up. haynesworth, carter, orakpo. could be lethal. watch out nfc east

Posted by: Tmartin2621 | April 25, 2009 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Skins Fans!
Welcome Brian "Sackpo" Orakpo to the nations capital.
Hail!

Posted by: abxinc | April 25, 2009 5:42 PM | Report abuse

I am pretty excited. We need and Olineman or a pass rusher. and we got a pass rusher that many predicted wouldn't be there at 13. So I am pretty stoked. I was just waiting for the skins to blow it.

Posted by: SmallPen15 | April 25, 2009 5:42 PM | Report abuse

You can find OL in middle of draft... You can't find an impact player of Orakpo's potential in the middle rounds... so happy!

Posted by: tony325 | April 25, 2009

Yeah sure, impact in the weight room.

Sprained right knee during 2007 opener (Arkansas State) was an early setback. He missed the next four games as a result but did finish the season strong, including two sacks vs. ASU in Holiday Bowl. 2008: Misses Baylor game and plays sparingly versus Kansas due to left knee sprain. Also suffered hamstring strain at the Combine but recovered fully in time for late-March Pro Day workout.

Workout warrior, bwhahahahahahah you idiot kids!

Posted by: periculum | April 25, 2009 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Love this pick! Deion just interviewed Orakpo on the NFL Network and he said he was hoping the Skins would draft him....said he loved the area, loved the coaches, and was thrilled.

Posted by: Lisa_R

He also said his first purchase with his money would be a "big old bed." May I humbly suggest he also purchase an alarm clock?

Mayock said he tries about 80% of the time.

Skins wasted no time picking him, so evidently they didn't make the effort to trade down.

Where will they play him?

Now everyone can go to bed until tomorrow morning.


Posted by: TheCork | April 25, 2009 5:42 PM | Report abuse

I hate being a prick but you all know if we took Oher JLa would have said he would have picked Orakpo

Posted by: mofass79 | April 25, 2009 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Mrizzle I understand and do agree with what you are saying so the skins could have went either way O-line or D-line at least they took care of one of them but i think they will get line help

Posted by: donaldtaylor | April 25, 2009 5:44 PM | Report abuse

I messed up some, but I had Orakpo:

1. Matt Stafford Georgia
2. Jason Smith Baylor
3. Aaron Curry Wake Forest
4. Mark Sanchez USC
5. Michael Crabtree Texas Tech
6. Andre Smith Alabama
7. Jeremy Maclin Missouri
8. Eugene Monroe Virginia
9. B.J. Raji Boston College
10. Michael Oher Ole Miss
11. Brandon Pettigrew Oklahoma State
12. Tyson Jackson LSU
13. Brian Orakpo Texas
14. Malcom Jenkins Ohio State
15. Clay Matthews USC
16. Eben Britton Arizona
17. Darius Butler Connecticut
18. Rey Maualuga USC
19. Josh Freeman Kansas State
20. William Beatty Connecticut

With our third, I hope we have a shot at Antoine Caldwell, Alabama.

Also, Jenkins at 14. I R Jeenyus!
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | April 25, 2009 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Its a no brainer - love the pick. Never thought he'd be there for us at 13- we had to take him. O-line still a big need, but we'd be saying that about DE if we took Oher.

Posted by: dpant00 | April 25, 2009 5:44 PM | Report abuse

If the Skins got Oher, JLC would've said he wanted Orakpo.

Posted by: rich20ssu | April 25, 2009 5:37 PM ------------------

LOL... Yep.

Same with periculum.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | April 25, 2009 5:44 PM | Report abuse

My pick. I can't believe the FO stuck to their guns and took need. An absolute no-brainer. Now an OLB in the third and a fourth CB as the comp seven. On offense OT in the fifth, OG in the sixth, and C in FA.

Posted by: glawrence007 | April 25, 2009 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Beat Reporter, for once pls keep your opinions to yourself! Oher was the 4th tackle in Tier 1 of that position. Orakpo was either 1st or 2nd hybrid guy in Tier 1 of the DE/LB position. Perfect pick for the Skins! Get the best RT or pure SLB available at #80. In fact, if they see somebody they really like at either position in Rd. 2, go get that person via trade. Praise to the Skins' FO for once! Orak Attack next to Haynesworth ... 2 monsters added to the DL! Can you tell I am excited?!?

Posted by: gilk | April 25, 2009 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Should've gone with Oher, since the D already has a guy of the same stature named Andre Carter. Not sure how he fits the scheme, but the O-line would've had some nice bookends for a couple of years at least.

Posted by: JinxMan | April 25, 2009 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Nice pick. They really couldn't screw up at that point, especially since Sanchez was gone. Campbell will be great this year, as he will have the same offense to play in for the first time since High School.

Posted by: vze2bnyf | April 25, 2009 5:45 PM | Report abuse

I'm so happy the Jets, helped us "Snyder-Proof" this draft. We have a beast of a D-line. Now we should get some decent O-linemen and hopefully a another LB.

Posted by: clark202 | April 25, 2009 5:45 PM | Report abuse

I'm just really happy about this. I hope he really can play both SLB and DE ... at the same time.

Coming up next ... trading next year's second and fourth round pick for a second round pick today.

Posted by: dcsween | April 25, 2009 5:45 PM | Report abuse

You can find OL in middle of draft... You can't find an impact player of Orakpo's potential in the middle rounds... so happy!

Posted by: tony325 | April 25, 2009

Yeah sure, impact in the weight room.

Sprained right knee during 2007 opener (Arkansas State) was an early setback. He missed the next four games as a result but did finish the season strong, including two sacks vs. ASU in Holiday Bowl. 2008: Misses Baylor game and plays sparingly versus Kansas due to left knee sprain. Also suffered hamstring strain at the Combine but recovered fully in time for late-March Pro Day workout.

Workout warrior, bwhahahahahahah you idiot kids!

Posted by: periculum | April 25, 2009 5:42 PM | Report abuse

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what team are you the gm for?

Posted by: tony325 | April 25, 2009 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Glad the Jets stepped up to get Sanchez and Orakpo fell into our laps. Could it be that the football gods finally might shine some light on our beloved skins. Great pick and more importantly Mr. Snyder please no more messing around with Campbell. I have total faith he is the guy to lead our skins into the future especially since he will finally be working in an offense he has been in for consecutive years. Hail To The Redskins.....

Posted by: Nemo4 | April 25, 2009 5:45 PM | Report abuse

The take on Haynesworth

He struggled some toward the end as he fought injuries. He has only been able to play a full 16 game schedule one year in his previous six (his rookie season) and there has been some concern he does not keep himself in great condition. He missed some time in 2006 when he was suspended by the commissioner for a flagrant foul in the Dallas game. It was not too surprising he had a huge season this past year because he was in the final year of his contract and some wonder if he will revert to his old ways once he gets a new contract.


Orapko, the perfect match for Haynesworth bwaaahahahahah you stoopid, stoopid kids. Meanwhile the OL sucks, and keeps getting older ... aged decrepit. They are cheering in Dallas, NY and Philly.

Posted by: periculum | April 25, 2009 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Now is the time to mortage the farm, and after Oher! I don't mind giving stuff up if we fill holes!!

Posted by: russberlin65 | April 25, 2009 5:46 PM | Report abuse

This (our re-made D-line!) will help our killer secondary get picks (well not Carlos, maybe he can bat the balls to other DB's).

Posted by: chasgiffen | April 25, 2009 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Cushing needs a personal stylist consult...

Posted by: isnadd | April 25, 2009 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Also, from this point forward, I'm pro-Heyer and say the third round pick should be a guard.

Posted by: dcsween | April 25, 2009 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Funny how all the highlights of the defensive players show plays where they are totally unblocked!

Posted by: SwiftIT | April 25, 2009 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Not sure if anytbody knows this.. But this is a pretty deep draft at T.. Some of the guys are projects.. But most can be good or better than what he have at RT right now... There next pick for sure is a T...

Posted by: cocodc1 | April 25, 2009 5:47 PM | Report abuse

No farm mortgaging! Keep next year's picks!

Posted by: chasgiffen | April 25, 2009 5:47 PM | Report abuse

"First thing I'm gonna do with that paycheck is buy a huge bed." Hilarious.

Posted by: dudebro13 | April 25, 2009 5:48 PM | Report abuse

what team are you the gm for?
Posted by: tony325 | April 25, 2009


What team are you rooting for? We have two oft injured less than motivated "impact" player on defense while we have the oldest offensive line in football. Every player except the left guard and center have had serious career threatening injuries of late. And you are cheering Orapko instead of Oher.

LOSER idiot kid, go "spank" yourself!

Posted by: periculum | April 25, 2009 5:48 PM | Report abuse

I wouldn't consider mike williams a legit RT. He was loading boxes at UPS last Thursday.

Posted by: rich20ssu | April 25, 2009 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Ephraim Salaam played the Oboe (still does) and worked at a grocery store before playing football, whats your point?

Posted by: signicolls_03 | April 25, 2009 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Orapko, the perfect match for Haynesworth bwaaahahahahah you stoopid, stoopid kids. Meanwhile the OL sucks, and keeps getting older ... aged decrepit. They are cheering in Dallas, NY and Philly.

Posted by: periculum | April 25, 2009 5:46 PM | Report abuse

You need to seriously relax. Go get a girlfriend or a hooker.

Posted by: ga8085 | April 25, 2009 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Was hoping for Oher but at least they didn't pull an Al Davis!!

Posted by: vegasskinsfan | April 25, 2009 5:51 PM | Report abuse

From Matt Mosley:
"I watched him in person at least six times over the past three years, and he could take over football games. With Al Haynesworth playing inside, there's no reason in the world why Orakpo can't have 10 sacks his rookie season. I know he wanted to go before this point, but it's actually a great fit for Washington."
"And the No. 2 overall pick Jason Smith has told me before that Orakpo was by far the best defensive end he ever faced."

Posted by: BabbMTfan | April 25, 2009 5:51 PM | Report abuse

Doc Walker said at the top of the draft that Orakpo was the pick they should make.

I guess some will say Doc is a Danny/Vinny stooge now too, eh?

It was a good pick. When you lay blame on people, you also have to apply credit when it is due - otherwise, you find yourself with zero credibility (see: JLC).

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | April 25, 2009 5:51 PM | Report abuse

Also, from this point forward, I'm pro-Heyer and say the third round pick should be a guard.

Posted by: dcsween | April 25, 2009 5:46 PM | =============================================

Antoine Caldwell, center/guard from Alabama.

Should be there in the 3rd, is a good player.
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | April 25, 2009 5:51 PM | Report abuse

maybe the skins can go get someone like loadhaldt in the third round to play RT

Posted by: AhsanFamily | April 25, 2009 5:52 PM | Report abuse

Not sure if anytbody knows this.. But this is a pretty deep draft at T.. Some of the guys are projects.. But most can be good or better than what he have at RT right now... There next pick for sure is a T...

True, in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. The Redskins have only 1 third. They only have five total picks. On Monday let's see you come back here and compare what the idiots have done with what the Eagles, the Giants, and yes even Dallas have done with twice the number of picks ... even AFTER trades!!!???

Posted by: cocodc1 | April 25, 2009

If he's still there, which I doubt I would go for Ramses Darden in the 3rd. I think he would be the true "impact" player from this draft if they could get him. THIS FO SUCKS!!! HA!

Posted by: periculum | April 25, 2009 5:52 PM | Report abuse

I wouldn't consider mike williams a legit RT. He was loading boxes at UPS last Thursday.

Posted by: rich20ssu | April 25, 2009 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Chester Pitts (excuse me) played the Oboe (still does) and worked at a grocery store before playing football, whats your point?

Posted by: signicolls_03 | April 25, 2009 5:52 PM | Report abuse

The Giants, Steelers, Pats, and Colts all have good O-lines with few high draft picks. But they all have high picks on the D-Line

Posted by: SwiftIT | April 25, 2009 5:52 PM | Report abuse

This is John's son in Austin. The Redskins got a monster. I've watched Orakpo this whole season, he was the key to the Texas defense this season. The pass defense would have been much worse this year with. He could not be stopped. Orakpo was able to confuse and stiffer the Heisman trophy winner Bradford this past year.

Washington has Orakphobia!

Posted by: dunsmore55 | April 25, 2009 5:52 PM | Report abuse

It was a good pick. When you lay blame on people, you also have to apply credit when it is due - otherwise, you find yourself with zero credibility (see: JLC).

Too high risk given their needs and the number of key positions that need help! No, it sucks. And you will see that ... and I will remember to slice you and dice you when the time come doood.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | April 25, 2009

Posted by: periculum | April 25, 2009 5:54 PM | Report abuse

what team are you the gm for?
Posted by: tony325 | April 25, 2009


What team are you rooting for? We have two oft injured less than motivated "impact" player on defense while we have the oldest offensive line in football. Every player except the left guard and center have had serious career threatening injuries of late. And you are cheering Orapko instead of Oher.

LOSER idiot kid, go "spank" yourself!

Posted by: periculum | April 25, 2009 5:48


Someone block this guy , Orackpo is the guy.

Posted by: redskinsfan01 | April 25, 2009 5:54 PM | Report abuse

Oher would have been a reach..... Orakpo was the pick. Best available and position of need crossed paths. Wonderful pick.

Posted by: saltine182 | April 25, 2009 5:54 PM | Report abuse

Good pick....

now pick up the pieces of a totally demoralized QB with no O line.....and no appreciable wide outs

not gonna happen...we'll still sssssuck

Posted by: BANDIT511 | April 25, 2009 5:55 PM | Report abuse

glad they took this kid although I have to thank the Jets for saving the Skins from themselves.

also hope the kid stays healthy - we don't need an oft-injured prospect on this team.

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 25, 2009 5:55 PM | Report abuse

Im really scared going into next year with Janson or Heyer as our starting right tackle. I like our pick, but would be nice to still have a second rounder to address the line.

Posted by: hank7216 | April 25, 2009 5:55 PM | Report abuse

The Giants, Steelers, Pats, and Colts all have good O-lines with few high draft picks. But they all have high picks on the D-Line

Posted by: SwiftIT | April 25, 2009

Just the opposite IDIOT KID, in fact they are renowned for their judicious use of FA, followed by the draft! Go mow the lawn for your dad.

Posted by: periculum | April 25, 2009 5:56 PM | Report abuse

Periculum certainly mentions kids and spanking quite frequently... Hmmm now just what does that tell us about his proclivities?

Posted by: chasgiffen | April 25, 2009 5:56 PM | Report abuse

Would have preferred Oher, but not completely blowing the pick has to be considered a huge victory for these guys.

Posted by: elscorcho | April 25, 2009 5:39 PM | Report abuse

lmao!

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 25, 2009 5:57 PM | Report abuse

I like the pick. We have been skating by at rush end for years now and all he has to do this year is come in and be the third down speicalist to be effective. With Prince Albert and the Daniels/Wynn/Orapko combo our D-line is significantly better hopefully giving the Offense a short field alot next season. If Oher keeps dropping what do you guys think about trading back into the end of the first to get him or Britton? It has worked for SF and other clubs. I personally think if we can get a RT in the first and keep our third this year we will have a good record and late round first next year.

Posted by: SteveK25 | April 25, 2009 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Maybe by now Malcolm Kelly,Devin Harris,and Fred Davis have learned the plays. If so, it's like having 3 extra picks this year

Posted by: SwiftIT | April 25, 2009 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Too high risk given their needs and the number of key positions that need help! No, it sucks. And you will see that ... and I will remember to slice you and dice you when the time come doood.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | April 25, 2009

Posted by: periculum | April 25, 2009 5:54 PM
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And I would expect nothing less from you, periculum. You are the biggest malcontent on this board.

Congrats.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | April 25, 2009 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Someone block this guy , Orackpo is the guy.
Posted by: redskinsfan01 | April 25, 2009

Eat dog poop and die you are a nasty blight with teeny tiny tights guy

Posted by: periculum | April 25, 2009 5:58 PM | Report abuse

great mock, Thunder. beat the crap outta most of the "experts"

I LOVE this pick. I woulda been stoked with Oher too, but the value with Orakpo...hard to pass on. If Heyer or Jansen step up, this could be an interesting yr

HAIL!!!

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | April 25, 2009 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Not usually a huge fan of trading away picks, but I think the Redskins should see what it would cost to move into the second round for an OT. They have a pretty high third round pick, so it might not be too much.

Posted by: BT23 | April 25, 2009 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Are you Mike Williams' uncle or something?

Posted by: rich20ssu | April 25, 2009 5:59 PM | Report abuse

I'll live with the pick. I'm not crazy about. Feels like we pretty much drafted Jason Taylor except without the all-pro experience - quite frankly, I'm just glad we didn't go the Sanchez route...

I guess the plan is pretty much to be the Ravens and/or the Steelers. We'll see what the Skins do tommorrow, but I just don't view the signing of Mike Williams as an appropriate measure to address our O-line.

As it stands, we're gonna averaging another 16 points a game next year...maybe we'll hold opponents to 14, who knows.

Posted by: p1funk | April 25, 2009 5:59 PM | Report abuse

And I would expect nothing less from you, periculum. You are the biggest malcontent on this board.

Congrats.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | April 25, 2009

That honor goes to others many have yet to post. They know the facts. Look at Danny's record and compare it to the Steeler, the Ravens, the Giants, and hell yes Philadelphia since he has owned the team.

Posted by: periculum | April 25, 2009 6:00 PM | Report abuse

WHO CARES WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE TAKEN JASON!!!!

YES RAK!

Gotta give the front office credit for not being idiots, thank you Al Davis, thank you Buffalo, thank you Jets. Oher would have been fine, but absolutely love this pick.

Posted by: AdamCr | April 25, 2009 6:00 PM | Report abuse

I would have taken Oher...

That's why your not A pro scout

of course, no matter what we did, you would say something else MR. anti skins

Posted by: snyderbandwagon | April 25, 2009 6:00 PM | Report abuse

Oher would have been a reach..... Orakpo was the pick. Best available and position of need crossed paths. Wonderful pick.

Posted by: saltine182

How'd that work out last year when Vinny all but said his "best available list" held a gun to his head and forced him to take three receivers in the second round?

Posted by: TheCork | April 25, 2009 6:01 PM | Report abuse

Also, from this point forward, I'm pro-Heyer and say the third round pick should be a guard.

Posted by: dcsween | April 25, 2009 5:46 PM | Report abuse

I agree. There are good C/G's in the 3rd. That's where we should go, unless Oher continues to fall to the 2nd rd.

Posted by: frediefritz | April 25, 2009 6:01 PM | Report abuse

Hey Jason LC, we don't really care what you think or what you would have done. All you know very well to do is to trash the Redskins and spew hatred and false info on this organization.

Let's make a deal, if the Redskins do really well this year and their player decisions works out, you will shut your always negative mouth and take Wilbon with you to Chicago.

Posted by: peaceful2008 | April 25, 2009 6:01 PM | Report abuse

The Giants, Steelers, Pats, and Colts all have good O-lines with few high draft picks. But they all have high picks on the D-Line

Posted by: SwiftIT | April 25, 2009

Just the opposite IDIOT KID, in fact they are renowned for their judicious use of FA, followed by the draft! Go mow the lawn for your dad.

Posted by: periculum | April 25, 2009 5:56 PM | Report abuse


Wow, using bold type, all caps, and incorrectly spelled big words has really put me in my place. Oh, and calling me an "idiot kid" was a good one too. Great work, I'll go help Dad with the yard now

Posted by: SwiftIT | April 25, 2009 6:02 PM | Report abuse

I like the pick. We have been skating by at rush end for years now and all he has to do this year is come in and be the third down speicalist to be effective.

Posted by: SteveK25 | April 25, 2009 5:57 PM | Report abuse

We have 3rd down specialists on our roster that didn't require the use of a #13 overall pick...that's why I don't really like it.

DE in our scheme plays the run first. It's great that we got some supposed pass-rushing beast, but we also had one last year named Jason Taylor and it didn't fit...

Posted by: p1funk | April 25, 2009 6:02 PM | Report abuse

I'll live with the pick. I'm not crazy about. Feels like we pretty much drafted Jason Taylor except without the all-pro experience - quite frankly, I'm just glad we didn't go the Sanchez route...


Agreed, there is much to breathe a sigh of relief about ... but the offense has not been addressed. Dissing Jason Campbell has not been addressed. And don't start with the Colt BS, sure maybe he could be a starter. But with this line? He'd get creamed.

Posted by: periculum | April 25, 2009 6:02 PM | Report abuse

would have taken Michael Oher with him on the board, but this kid will play DE/LB right away, and that's a big need.

By Jason La Canfora | April 25, 2009; 5:33 PM ET

Do us all a favor and take the first plane out of D.C.. I'm sure C.P. would pay for your ticket because he's Snyder favorite and does pretty much what he wants, blah blah blah. You are not a journalist, you are a hack with a personal score to settle.

Posted by: skinztattoo89 | April 25, 2009 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Good pick. I'm really comfortable with any player recommended by the defensive staff. They understand how to use a player's ability to his best.

Posted by: TWISI | April 25, 2009 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Twisi, are you serious with that comment? We brought in Jason Taylor and played him on the opposite side he's been on all his career just so we can accomodate Andre "Haven't Done Nothing" Carter. I hope we play Orakpo where he is most comfortable and make Carter adapt.

I like the pick. Interesting that 17 picks in and still no one has picked up Oher. So he must not have been that high on everyone's boards. Many had Orakpo as a top 5 guy. We got him at 13, which is a steal (hopefully, only time will tell).

Posted by: SnyderMustGo1 | April 25, 2009 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Now is the time to mortage the farm, and after Oher! I don't mind giving stuff up if we fill holes!!

Posted by: russberlin65 | April 25, 2009 5:46 PM | Report abuse

I like this...could we package this yr's 3rd, 5th and next yr's 2nd to move up to late 1st round? Or do we try find an OT in 3rd rd?

periculum- take a valium dude. u sound like a 12 yr old on butane

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | April 25, 2009 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Oher would have been a reach..... Orakpo was the pick. Best available and position of need crossed paths. Wonderful pick.

Posted by: saltine182 | April 25, 2009 5:54 PM
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I don't agree, Oher also would have been a fine pick.

The only reason we had a choice like this was because 1) Undead Al Davis reached for DHB, a guy who would have made into the 1st round barely, it at all, 2) the Jets traded up for Sanchez, and all kinds of prospects dropped (including Crabtree, to the 49ers), and 3) Denver picked Moreno.

It's been a good draft for us, and I'm hoping we pick a good offensive lineman with our 3rd rounder, there will be some there.
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | April 25, 2009 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Cork must be sitting in his basement watching VHS tapes of the 2008 draft.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | April 25, 2009 6:05 PM | Report abuse

I like the pick. We have been skating by at rush end for years now and all he has to do this year is come in and be the third down speicalist to be effective.

Posted by: SteveK25 | April 25, 2009

Haynesworth played mostly at DE on pass downs for Tennessee. His coach put him there because he did not have the discipline to play tackle he liked to free lance. Sound familiar? You also have Carter. NOW you have 3 defensive ends and NO OT to come in for Samuels, NO true starting RT. No backup center. No real backup guard.

Posted by: periculum | April 25, 2009 6:05 PM | Report abuse

I like the pick. We have been skating by at rush end for years now and all he has to do this year is come in and be the third down speicalist to be effective.

Posted by: SteveK25 | April 25, 2009

Haynesworth played mostly at DE on pass downs for Tennessee. His coach put him there because he did not have the discipline to play tackle he liked to free lance. Sound familiar? You also have Carter. NOW you have 3 defensive ends and NO OT to come in for Samuels, NO true starting RT. No backup center. No real backup guard.

Posted by: periculum | April 25, 2009 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Sorry given the need. The injury and other issues Orapko has. Oher was the better, right pick.

Posted by: periculum | April 25, 2009 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Much to my dismay, they made good pick. Who knew? (besides JM220) I hope JC was in on the Sanchez subterfuge.

Posted by: mack1 | April 25, 2009 6:07 PM | Report abuse

The real players are in Rounds 2-4 or so.

That's where you get projects - guys who need a couple of years in the weight room or development in your system - and then emerge to be solid starters.

At least quality teams get the players here.


Posted by: SteveMG | April 25, 2009 6:07 PM | Report abuse

I LOVE IT!!!!

Posted by: hanimal03 | April 25, 2009 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Good pick. I'm really comfortable with any player recommended by the defensive staff. They understand how to use a player's ability to his best.

So ... why would Blache bring back Daniels and Wynn? This is a Snidely Owl pick one can almost guarantee it.

Posted by: TWISI | April 25, 2009

Posted by: periculum | April 25, 2009 6:08 PM | Report abuse

I would have taken Oher...

That's why your not A pro scout

of course, no matter what we did, you would say something else MR. anti skins

Posted by: snyderbandwagon | April 25, 2009 6:00 PM | Report abuse

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Notice he's still on the board at pick #19... The draft is about value... Orakpo rating by scouts, inc is 95, Oher 92... We got the best available player & filled a need at the same time... what more does anyone want?

Posted by: tony325 | April 25, 2009 6:08 PM | Report abuse

I liked Oher too. But only because I thought Orakpo would be off the table. Thank God, he was there and the Skins actually took him. They could have traded the pick to the Vikings for John David Booty.

Just figure this Oher vs. Orakpo in a head to head death match. Orakpo doubled Oher's reps in the 225 bench and what was the 40? 4.6 to 5.4 in favor of Orakpo?

Oher was iffy to me but his shuttle run showed him nimble or good game speed. But, I'd like a 6'7" athlete to train up into a strong tackle. You know decent speed, good frame. I say cut all other than Jason Campbell and let Randel El backup the position, so that they could develop depth and strength in the O-line, if roster space is the question.

Posted by: chavez66 | April 25, 2009 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Now is the time to mortage the farm, and after Oher! I don't mind giving stuff up if we fill holes!!

Posted by: russberlin65 | April 25, 2009 5:46 PM | Report abuse

I like this...could we package this yr's 3rd, 5th and next yr's 2nd to move up to late 1st round? Or do we try find an OT in 3rd rd?

Posted by: Notorious_LMG
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I like something like this too, except giving up high picks next year... instead let's give up Andre Carter (who can now be replaced with Orakpo), and/or Fred Davis, and/or someone else we don't need...

Posted by: chasgiffen | April 25, 2009 6:11 PM | Report abuse

This is why you do not read too much into anything these talking heads say prior to the draft, including Jason La Canfora! They are not in the war room and they got "Played" by the Front Office. Now Jason is trying to back-track and say that Orakpro was the Redskin's number one choice all along! What a dweeb! Wasn't he the one spreading Sanchez trade-up rumors in the first place. I will bet he is also the one spreading Campbell being disgruntled too! Has Campbell officially came out and said that he demands a trade! No! What a farse these reporters are. I hate Snyder as much as anyone, but putting false rumors is worse!

Posted by: JohnWWW | April 25, 2009 6:11 PM | Report abuse

I love this pick. While it's true that Oher would have filled a bigger need, Orakpo was unmistakably the best player on the board. We had to draft him, and I'm glad we did.

Posted by: Grover_Cleveland_80 | April 25, 2009 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Also, if we don't get an RT this draft, let's sign Jon Runyon for 1 year to fill in...

Posted by: chasgiffen | April 25, 2009 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Iggles trading up. Macklin?

Posted by: SoCal_SkinsFan | April 25, 2009 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Also, from this point forward, I'm pro-Heyer and say the third round pick should be a guard.

Posted by: dcsween | April 25, 2009 5:46 PM | Report abuse

I agree. There are good C/G's in the 3rd. That's where we should go, unless Oher continues to fall to the 2nd rd.

Posted by: frediefritz | April 25, 2009 6:01 PM | Report abuse

i'm on board with that too. and maybe Jansen pushes him, who knows. can't hurt. if Rinehart steps up, that would be nice for Guard depth too

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | April 25, 2009 6:12 PM | Report abuse

rich20ssu got it right. JLO is ridiculous. Oher could slip out of the first round.

Posted by: markje | April 25, 2009 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Wow, teams are falling over themselves to get in position to take Oher after the Skins passed him up.

Posted by: CletusVanDamme | April 25, 2009 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Maclin to Eagles...at least that should probably keep Boldin away...

Detroit takes Oher here?

Posted by: p1funk | April 25, 2009 6:15 PM | Report abuse

eagles are retarded. basically now have 2 desaun jacksons

Posted by: amsaul | April 25, 2009 6:15 PM | Report abuse

maclin? i think we just got lucky again. iggles aren't gonna like this pick.

Posted by: braker19cleartheline | April 25, 2009 6:15 PM | Report abuse

Here goes Oher to Detroit.

Posted by: SoCal_SkinsFan | April 25, 2009 6:15 PM | Report abuse

periculum (what the f*ck is that, some obscure section of genitalia?), you're really reeking of the enemy mole and a buzzkill, the pick was decent, better than the feared Sanchez, Orakpo will RACK some SACKS...Nothing's perfect...

Posted by: frak | April 25, 2009 6:15 PM | Report abuse

Detriot Oher... Gotta be.

Posted by: krichardson7777 | April 25, 2009 6:16 PM | Report abuse

THANK YOU, JETS!

Posted by: abrockway | April 25, 2009 6:16 PM | Report abuse

skins oughta now trade their 3rd round pick and their 2nd round next season to get a 2nd rounder in this year's draft and hopefully pick up Oher or another strong young OL prospect.

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 25, 2009 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Seriously, Cletus, looks like our FO got this one right. Credit where it's due but I hate them for making me suffer all week! I don't think Rak would still be there at 20!

Oher to Detroit prob, worked well for them.

Posted by: AdamCr | April 25, 2009 6:17 PM | Report abuse

Now is the time to mortage the farm, and after Oher! I don't mind giving stuff up if we fill holes!!

Posted by: russberlin65 | April 25, 2009 5:46 PM | Report abuse

I like this...could we package this yr's 3rd, 5th and next yr's 2nd to move up to late 1st round? Or do we try find an OT in 3rd rd?

Posted by: Notorious_LMG
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I like something like this too, except giving up high picks next year... instead let's give up Andre Carter (who can now be replaced with Orakpo), and/or Fred Davis, and/or someone else we don't need...

Posted by: chasgiffen | April 25, 2009 6:11 PM | Report abuse

chas, I think this leaves us too thin at DE...Chris Wilson/Phillip Daniles starting? I don't know...I agree that it's not ideal to give up future picks, but if we could lock up our starting stud RT and DE for 8-10 yrs, I think you pull the trigger. Oher was graded by many as a 1st rd talent

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | April 25, 2009 6:17 PM | Report abuse

Vinny was just on CSN and he indicated Orakpo was who they wanted all along. Said he tried for an hour to trade up to pick Orakpo because he thought he would be selected early - said he thinks the Skins got lucky.

Vinny also said the jersey that Orakpo held up was one the Skins had sent to him in NY and that CP has already texted him saying Orakpo was who he hoped they would pick.

Vinny said Orakpo is a classy, great guy who will be wonderful in the locker room and he thinks the fans are happy.

Posted by: Lisa_R | April 25, 2009 6:17 PM | Report abuse

I'm beginning to think that PERICULUM is an imposter redskin fan...

This is a great pick.

I'm sure I'm not the only 'Skins fan to see Jason Campbell receive 3-4 seconds to throw numerous times.

The Superbowl Steelers had more sacks than us and a weaker rushing attack than us and Big Ben did just fine.

Please stop with the O-line crap. Either they will get fixed or our QB situation will get fixed.

Just quit it! Darn.

Posted by: Vicc | April 25, 2009 6:21 PM | Report abuse

Gotcha Notorius... maybe it makes sense. We seriously need O-line now, for this year. Maybe use next year's 2nd... Still love Alex Mack if can't get Oher. Plus I'd sign FA Jon Runyon for 1 year if I can't draft a strong RT this year.

Posted by: chasgiffen | April 25, 2009 6:21 PM | Report abuse

I liked Oher, but there's a reason he continues to fall. And let's not forget, Orakpo might play strong side LB and DE, so he fills two needs.

I agree with the other posts, try to trade back up by maybe giving up next yrs 2nd and this yrs 3rd to get Oher.

Posted by: ga8085 | April 25, 2009 6:21 PM | Report abuse

DEs on our roster:
Wilson
Jackson
Buzbee
Carter
Wynn
Daniels
Orakpo
Haynesworth (part-time)

Tackles on our roster:
Samuels
Jansen
Heyer
Mike Williams
Devin Clark
Reuben Riley
Will montgmery (?)

++++++

Feel like we needed a tackle instead of Orakpo...

Posted by: p1funk | April 25, 2009 6:21 PM | Report abuse

sorry, forgot to mention Chad Rhinehart in there...wonder why I forgot to mention him?

Posted by: p1funk | April 25, 2009 6:22 PM | Report abuse

Looks like a good pick and Orakpo sounded and looked happy. Good Luck and Welcome to the Redskins Orakpo! HAIL!

Posted by: ladyredskins | April 25, 2009 6:22 PM | Report abuse

ORAKPO AND SELLERS WILL BE BATTLING IN THE WEIGHT ROOM... LOVE THE PICK.. GO SKINS

Posted by: pjfromva | April 25, 2009 6:22 PM | Report abuse

another season of scoring under 17 points a game!

Posted by: Leeguru | April 25, 2009 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Looks like the secondary will be facing Macklin and Jackson twice a year... not a good look with all that speed

Posted by: JinxMan | April 25, 2009 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Man, anyone out there just see and hear NFL Network talking about how TE Pettigrew just drafted by Lions, ate Orakpo's lunch all day when they played this season?
And he is only a TE not an OT!!

Please someone assure me Orakpo will not be another Sterling Palmer, Chris Wilson.

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | April 25, 2009 6:24 PM | Report abuse

eagles coudlve gotten macklin at 21. browns werent gonna take him and i think its safe to say detroit is out of the wr biz for a while. dumb move all around, but im not gonna complain

Posted by: amsaul | April 25, 2009 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Eh, I don't think Orakpo is gonna be all that good in the NFL. I think he'll get pushed around.

Hope I'm wrong obviously. I don't think we had a lot of options where we were at #13 with what was on the board. Seems everyone in the know has discovered something about Oher.


But people, we don't necessarily need a LT, we need a RT, and Phil Loadholt MIGHT be available in the third rounder.

He's who I'm holding my breath for. I think he has a lot of potential, and he's just freaking massive. Hard, hard worker too. If we get him in the third, I'll be happy with the first two picks, even though I'm not sold on Orakpo. I'm waiting to see with him, but I don't expect a whole lot to be honest.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | April 25, 2009 6:25 PM | Report abuse

I was hoping for retxeD ylenaM........

Tub S'taht tsuj em...............

Posted by: BingCreole | April 25, 2009 6:25 PM | Report abuse

another season of scoring under 17 points a game!

Posted by: Leeguru | April 25, 2009 6:23 PM | Report abuse


Pretty much.

The plan has to be for us to turn into the Steelers or the Ravens...except the West Coast version of those teams.

Posted by: p1funk | April 25, 2009 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Wow. Pretty early for a Center!

Posted by: SoCal_SkinsFan | April 25, 2009 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Dammit! Cleveland takes Mack, I really wanted to see DC get him somehow. At least he didn't go to a Beast competitor.

Posted by: chasgiffen | April 25, 2009 6:26 PM | Report abuse

agreed chas. it will be interesting to see how the next 5-10 picks go...if Oher is still there, I tend to think we might make something happen

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | April 25, 2009 6:27 PM | Report abuse

I guess Oher wasn't such a lock to go early after all... We're at 22 now, and he is still on the board.

Posted by: CPortisRun | April 25, 2009 6:27 PM | Report abuse

Looks like the secondary will be facing Macklin and Jackson twice a year... not a good look with all that speed

Posted by: JinxMan | April 25, 2009 6:24 PM | Report abuse


Better than facing Jackson and Boldin twice a year.

Posted by: p1funk | April 25, 2009 6:27 PM | Report abuse

sorry, forgot to mention Chad Rhinehart in there...wonder why I forgot to mention him?

Posted by: p1funk | April 25, 2009 6:22 PM | ===================================

Chad who?
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | April 25, 2009 6:27 PM | Report abuse

Wow. Pretty early for a Center!

Posted by: SoCal_SkinsFan
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Yeah, but he plays G too and he's a beast, many said "best C prospect in 10 years..."

Posted by: chasgiffen | April 25, 2009 6:27 PM | Report abuse

Notorious_LMG- I was thinking the exact same thing

Posted by: CPortisRun | April 25, 2009 6:27 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Danny heard the pitchforks clattering

Posted by: mattsoundworld | April 25, 2009 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Steal of the Draft.... Way to shut up the mouths of the negative fans Vinny.

Posted by: wewbank1 | April 25, 2009 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Eh, I don't think Orakpo is gonna be all that good in the NFL. I think he'll get pushed around.

Hope I'm wrong obviously. I don't think we had a lot of options where we were at #13 with what was on the board. Seems everyone in the know has discovered something about Oher.


But people, we don't necessarily need a LT, we need a RT, and Phil Loadholt MIGHT be available in the third rounder.

He's who I'm holding my breath for. I think he has a lot of potential, and he's just freaking massive. Hard, hard worker too. If we get him in the third, I'll be happy with the first two picks, even though I'm not sold on Orakpo. I'm waiting to see with him, but I don't expect a whole lot to be honest.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | April 25, 2009 6:25 PM | Report abuse


Actually agree with you Truth.

Except the part about not needing an LT.
It's never to early to groom and they can play RT in the meantime.

Posted by: p1funk | April 25, 2009 6:29 PM | Report abuse

RakDaddy on his way to DC baby!!Thats whats up!

Posted by: smittdiddy | April 25, 2009 6:29 PM | Report abuse

I like the pick, but for the record, this was supposed to be Jason Taylor's role. Jason Taylor just cost us a first rounder. Does the pain from that trade ever end?

Posted by: Kenbeatrizz | April 25, 2009 6:30 PM | Report abuse

If Oher keeps falling, Synderratto should try and grab him in a trade.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | April 25, 2009 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Honestly I'm not worried about Maclin. I like him as a college player, but I think only Crabtree will be a good NFL WR from this year's WR class.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | April 25, 2009 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Washington Post.

I've been reading your paper for 30+ years and digital stuff loyally since it rolled out, so you probably won't shake me. But come on ... almost an hour after the pick and a short blog entry with hand-off to the message boards is all the coverage you can manage? Not trolling ... just reacting based on expectations. When you put your home town beat writer on the spot and call this an "insider" forum, I would have expected more than what I got from Kiper and the rest at ESPN.

Posted by: reddog278 | April 25, 2009 6:31 PM | Report abuse

My heart is breaking for Oher.....love that we got Orakpo but I feel bad for Oher still waiting.

Posted by: Lisa_R | April 25, 2009 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Fantastic! Orakapo or Oher, who cares? They spent the pick on a big man who can help keep them from having their lunch money stolen in the 4th quarter. No QB and no WR! Whoopee!

Posted by: dolph924 | April 25, 2009 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Well it looks like JLC is a retard for thinking we should grab Oher. Glad we picked up Orakpo instead. Think of our dline Andre Carter, Haynesworth, Griffin, and Orakpo. Not to mention our depth with Montgomery Daniels and so on... I like these moves. Our defense is going to be sick and we have a low turnover qb with an above average running game. Sound familar... It worked well for the Steelers last year.

Posted by: krichardson7777 | April 25, 2009 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Maclin is who I had going to the Raiders at pick 7.

Al Davis has lost his mind, passing over Crabtree and Maclin for DHB.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | April 25, 2009 6:33 PM | Report abuse

Anyone have an idea of the crowd reaction at Fedex to the pick?

Posted by: SoCal_SkinsFan | April 25, 2009 6:33 PM | Report abuse

hate to see B-more get Oher but happy for the kid

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | April 25, 2009 6:36 PM | Report abuse

Cool. The Ravens took Oher. Now JLC can be happy. :)

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | April 25, 2009 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Baltimore trades up to grab Oher...

...ever wonder why they are a wildly more successful franchise than us since Danny arrived?

Posted by: p1funk | April 25, 2009 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Bad pick, online or even Maualuga would have been better. If you keep D. Evans you don't have to pick Orakpo. Orakpo is stiff and injury prone. He'll be decent but compared to our DE's that's not saying much. If London goes down who we got? NOBODY. Maualuga should have been the pick.

Posted by: PEACE8 | April 25, 2009 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Oher to the Ravens... makes sense.

Posted by: tony325 | April 25, 2009 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Well it looks like JLC is a retard for thinking we should grab Oher. Glad we picked up Orakpo instead. Think of our dline Andre Carter, Haynesworth, Griffin, and Orakpo. Not to mention our depth with Montgomery Daniels and so on... I like these moves.

NO, I think you are the retarded, cretinous, IDIOT KID who doesn't understand or see a very risky pick when he sees it. Both ORAPKO, and HAYNESWORTH have been unable to manage to stay on the field for an entire season. (Haynesworth somehow managed to stay on much longer in his contract year ... wonder why?). If you see Montgomery, Golston, Thomas, and Blades more often than Orakpo, Haynesworth, and McIntosh you will be very fortunate indeed.

Posted by: periculum | April 25, 2009 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Because it could be like the Offensive line where there will be no one, absolutely no one if Samuels, Thomas, Jansen, and Heyer go down again.

Posted by: periculum | April 25, 2009 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Bad pick, online or even Maualuga would have been better. If you keep D. Evans you don't have to pick Orakpo. Orakpo is stiff and injury prone. He'll be decent but compared to our DE's that's not saying much. If London goes down who we got? NOBODY. Maualuga should have been the pick.

Posted by: PEACE8 | April 25, 2009 6:38 PM | Report abuse


Really? 'Cause he's still out there.

Posted by: p1funk | April 25, 2009 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Oher to the Ravens... makes sense.
Posted by: tony325 | April 25, 2009

The smartest guy when it comes to talent according to ESPN and Scouts Inc, Ozzie ... the smart and rich get richer, the idiot poor, that would be us the Redskins get into deeper salary cap kinshi.

Posted by: periculum | April 25, 2009 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Does this mean we won't have to listen to Jason Campbell whining that if he's actually going to have to compete with another candidate for his position in order to earn his roughly million dollar a year salary he wants out of town?

That would be good news for fans, but bad news for the makers of TUMs.

Posted by: douglaslbarber | April 25, 2009 6:43 PM | Report abuse

Bmore takes Malaulauga at 26 if he's there...pass the torch from Ray to Rey

Posted by: p1funk | April 25, 2009 6:43 PM | Report abuse

right now I am crossing my fingers for about two or three things


1. Rey Maualuga to fall to us in the third.

or

2. Phil Loadholt to fall to us in the third.

or

3. Duke Robinson to fall to us in the third.


IN THAT ORDER


no way Rey does, but you never know!

Posted by: TheTruth11 | April 25, 2009 6:44 PM | Report abuse

Because it could be like the Offensive line where there will be no one, absolutely no one if Samuels, Thomas, Jansen, and Heyer go down again.

Posted by: periculum

Yeah, its likely that those 4 OTs will all get injured.

Seriously, you should stop drinking.

Give the negative a rest. 95% of people like the Orakpo pickup. Yeah we need O-line help, but we still have 4 more picks in this draft.

You seriously sound like a child with all your biching, if that matters to you.

Posted by: Rypien11 | April 25, 2009 6:44 PM | Report abuse

I like the pick, but for the record, this was supposed to be Jason Taylor's role. Jason Taylor just cost us a first rounder. Does the pain from that trade ever end?

Posted by: Kenbeatrizz

Actually trading our 2nd rounder for Jason Taylor probably proved to be a blessing in disguise since the Skins may have used our 2nd round to trade up and get Sanchez.

Posted by: Lisa_R | April 25, 2009 6:44 PM | Report abuse

Coup d'etat brewing in Raiders Nation...Bey is good, but all those other players...The Count must be broke...Or planning an Irsay back to LA...

Posted by: frak | April 25, 2009 6:44 PM | Report abuse

If London goes down who we got? NOBODY. Maualuga should have been the pick.

HB Benny Blades.

Its McIntosh and the SLB that were very weak ... hopefully former 1st rounder Thomas will resurrect his career, the Wilson experiment will pan out. And they will move Orapko to SLB. I think the linebacking issues are now resolved until injuries take their toll.

Its the OL not linebacking.

Posted by: periculum | April 25, 2009 6:45 PM | Report abuse

lol, sick but possibly true Lisa

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | April 25, 2009 6:45 PM | Report abuse


I Wouldn't Rule Out Everette Brown

The Redskins have expressed renwed interest in the Florida State DE as the draft has approached, according to a league source, after not having much previous contact with the player. Brown, like Texas prospect Brian Orakpo, could be a hybrid end/linebacker and there is a good chance he could be on the board when the Skins make the 13th pick (assuming that's where they end up picking).

Orakpo has drawn heavy interest from Washington throughout the process, and if the Skins do opt to fill this need at 13, Brown could be high in the mix as well.

By Jason La Canfora | April 24, 2009; 7:54 PM ET
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ANOTHER MISS FOR JLC SINCE BROWN IS STILL ON THE BOARD.. IDIOT

Posted by: slimbo-Rice | April 25, 2009 6:45 PM | Report abuse

I'm not quite getting this "finally!" theme. Does anyone remember Carlos Rogers, Sean Taylor, Laron Landry, Jason Campbell, Rocky MacIntosh from recent drafts? Not exactly busts.... Yes, the jury is still out on last years draftees... But its not as if Vinnie and Dan have NEVER made a good pick, although Gibbs helped out some...

Posted by: cdepp1 | April 25, 2009 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Who is more efficient at delivering packages -- FredEx or Mike Williams at UPS?

I just took an Orapko in my bathroom.

Posted by: li_timothy | April 25, 2009 6:48 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Rey Maualuga goes to the Pats at 26.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | April 25, 2009 6:48 PM | Report abuse

Oher to the Ravens... makes sense.
Posted by: tony325 | April 25, 2009

The smartest guy when it comes to talent according to ESPN and Scouts Inc, Ozzie ... the smart and rich get richer, the idiot poor, that would be us the Redskins get into deeper salary cap kinshi.

Posted by: periculum | April 25, 2009 6:42 PM | Report abuse

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what salary cap??

Posted by: tony325 | April 25, 2009 6:48 PM | Report abuse

maualuga such a beast he's still on the board. does anyone honestly think rak would still be there now?

Posted by: AdamCr | April 25, 2009 6:48 PM | Report abuse

It must be absolutely KILLING the heads on ESPN not to be able to blather on and on about the cowboys.

Posted by: SoCal_SkinsFan | April 25, 2009 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Because it could be like the Offensive line where there will be no one, absolutely no one if Samuels, Thomas, Jansen, and Heyer go down again.

Posted by: periculum

Yeah, its likely that those 4 OTs will all get injured.


Posted by: Rypien11 | April 25, 2009 6:44 PM | Report abuse

Last year Samuels and Heyer did get injured - remember Justin Geisinger attempting to block Terrell Suggs? Randy Thomas played with turf toe. Jansen has had season-ending injuries twice already. And linemen at 30+ years old who have alredy sustained injuries don't get MORE durable as time goes on.

Posted by: p1funk | April 25, 2009 6:50 PM | Report abuse

Give the negative a rest. 95% of people like the Orakpo pickup. Yeah we need O-line help, but we still have 4 more picks in this draft.

DOOOD U R AN IDIOT. ALL FOUR WENT DOWN LAST YEAR!!! The only 2 left standing where Kendall and Rabach!!!! You must be a drooling, blind albino who can't see the games because there are too many colors?

And is more like 50%. Most, you never see on this blog ... they are all mostly new and completely ignorant when it comes to the real needs of this team. Suddenly Fletcher has no backup? Last I looked HB Blades was a pretty fair MLB?


You seriously sound like a child with all your biching, if that matters to you.
Posted by: Rypien11 | April 25, 2009

And you were a whiny, little fem who wanted Orapko or some other beast. You must spend a lot of time "spanking" that bad boy thinking about them don't you? Jest like Snidely!

Posted by: periculum | April 25, 2009 6:50 PM | Report abuse

Actually trading our 2nd rounder for Jason Taylor probably proved to be a blessing in disguise since the Skins may have used our 2nd round to trade up and get Sanchez.


Posted by: Lisa_R | April 25, 2009 6:44 PM | Report abuse


Good call. And I thought there was no silver lining to that deal.

Posted by: Original_etrod | April 25, 2009 6:50 PM | Report abuse

If Oher was such a great LT then we can get a RT in the second or third this year and then have a good shot of getting a LT of Oher's quality next year at the #23 spot(I'm hoping our pick will be later but I'm an optimist). There is still plenty of time to improve the RT situation this year and have Jansen be able to swing to guard. Then we can get a LT replacement to be groomed behind Samuels next year. I think you can never go wrong with a stud pass rusher and Daniels/wynn can stop the run on first and second and Orapko can come in on passing down pushing daniels/wynn inside. As an aside how bad must Rhinehardt be to be so utterly dismissed a year after being a third rounder? I mean he's a guard how badly can you mess that up next in one year?

Posted by: SteveK25 | April 25, 2009 6:50 PM | Report abuse

Someone call the orderlies with the Thorazine... periculum is foaming at the mouth.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | April 25, 2009 6:52 PM | Report abuse

what salary cap??
Posted by: tony325 | April 25, 2009

Being negotiated as we speak. Apparently, a big issue is the exorbitant amounts paid to rookies ala Mr. Stafford. The rookie pool isn't enough ... could be more restrictions in the future.

Posted by: periculum | April 25, 2009 6:53 PM | Report abuse

any OT's left worth trading up into the 1st for?

Posted by: BT23 | April 25, 2009 6:53 PM | Report abuse

there's supposed to be a run on TE's in the second round. Could be wrong but that would be a HUGE help for us if it did happen. That means somebody was dropping.


Or it could mean we trade up to grab a TE? DOH!

Posted by: TheTruth11 | April 25, 2009 6:53 PM | Report abuse

I like the pick, but for the record, this was supposed to be Jason Taylor's role. Jason Taylor just cost us a first rounder. Does the pain from that trade ever end?

Posted by: Kenbeatrizz

Actually trading our 2nd rounder for Jason Taylor probably proved to be a blessing in disguise since the Skins may have used our 2nd round to trade up and get Sanchez.


Posted by: Lisa_R | April 25, 2009 6:44 PM | Report abuse


I LOVE IT!!! Instantly arrested the downward spiral of my mood over the past 45 minutes of becoming steadily more bummed about not having that 2nd rounder!

Posted by: SoCal_SkinsFan | April 25, 2009 6:53 PM | Report abuse

It must be absolutely KILLING the heads on ESPN not to be able to blather on and on about the cowboys.

Posted by: SoCal_SkinsFan | April 25, 2009 6:49 PM | Report abuse

I know...and I'm lovin every minute of it

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | April 25, 2009 6:54 PM | Report abuse

I wonder who is available that the Skins really want......

Posted by: isnadd | April 25, 2009 6:54 PM | Report abuse

I think you can never go wrong with a stud pass rusher...

Posted by: SteveK25 | April 25, 2009 6:50 PM | Report abuse


Ummm, we managed to go wrong with Jason Taylor...

Posted by: p1funk | April 25, 2009 6:54 PM | Report abuse

Actually trading our 2nd rounder for Jason Taylor probably proved to be a blessing in disguise since the Skins may have used our 2nd round to trade up and get Sanchez.

Very insightful Lisa. However, their problems are now worst with how Snyder, Kiper, and Vinny have handled Campbell. Can't help but think he would be better off elsewhere. Not sure Zorn is enough to offset the Keystone Kops. So, now we have Jason, the rapidly eroding OL, the 3 amigos from last year who didn't pan out ...


Posted by: Lisa_R | April 25, 2009

Posted by: periculum | April 25, 2009 6:56 PM | Report abuse

I thought they would trade back, but I also thought Orakpo would be long gone at 13.

Thank you Jets...and especially!!! Al Davis. What a total idiot...hahahahaha. Him taking Bey started the dominoes falling to allow Orakpo to pick himself. Absolute no brainer taking a top 6 talent at number 13. Orakpo graded out higher than Oher on just about every evaluator's board that I have seen.

Redskins don't need a STARTING T this year. Blasphemy here I know, but its actually true. Orakpo will have immediate impact in the rotation at Dline. Rob Jackson can now stand up...that should be a great experiment that I hope yields good results.

I hope we look to grab interior OL or SLB with the next pick.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | April 25, 2009 6:56 PM | Report abuse

Wow, who would have thought that Maluluga would be last USC LB standing?

Posted by: Original_etrod | April 25, 2009 6:57 PM | Report abuse

I think you can never go wrong with a stud pass rusher...
Posted by: SteveK25 | April 25, 2009

Ummm, we managed to go wrong with Jason Taylor...
Posted by: p1funk | April 25, 2009

Actually, its worst. Remember how Jason Taylor was injured most of last year? That could very easily happen with both Orapko and Haynesworth. Then you'd have 2 for 1'er.

Posted by: periculum | April 25, 2009 6:58 PM | Report abuse

from RI: "I would have taken Michael Oher with him on the board, but this kid will play DE/LB right away, and that's a big need." There are real questions about Oher's coachability which is a counterbalance to the obvious skill advantages he has in drive blocking capability, agile feet and long arms. Bugel probably probably wasn't too excited about the dude. The Skins FO made the right choice at 13.

Posted by: AntonChigurh | April 25, 2009 6:58 PM | Report abuse

I like Loadholt but, Louis Vasquez had 39 reps in the 225 bench. He's 6'5" with a good wing span. He was a guard but how bad could he be at Tackle. Still might be an upgrade to Heyer.

Lydon Murtha was the only O-line on the charts below 5 on the 40, at 4.89. Played at Nebraska! 6'7" 306lbs. That sounds great for a team hoping to become a West Coast passing force. Big and quick.

His downside seems to be a lot of lost playing time due to numerous injuries. Varied enough to the point you question his desire. Toe Jam out. Hang nail out? Still we could seriously use a big and agile guy in pass protection. Vasquez might be more like Jansen. He could be way undervalued due to the system at Texas Tech. They spread wide and used 2-pt stances. Pass protection pedigree? Texas Tech was involved in that three way tie with Texas... Just think he could be a value pick. Let him put a hand on the ground and he might be a devistating run blocker as well.

Posted by: chavez66 | April 25, 2009 6:59 PM | Report abuse

periculum
NO, I think you are the retarded, cretinous, IDIOT KID who doesn't understand or see a very risky pick when he sees it.
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Idiot Kid? Are you kidding me? I was stating that we are going to have a great defensive line and it would have been premature to draft Oher. With your post it establishes my first point with no question and the fact that Oher was picked 10 picks later more then satisfies the second point.

As for the Oline it is weak but Samules and Heyer are backed by Jansen. Thomas and Dockery are backed up by our third pick from last year. I mean it isnt deep by picking a guy 10 picks early would not help. Target a guard or a linebacker in the third round and we will satisfy another need. Cant wait to watch our D dominate. Pretty sure your not gonna mind the pass rush either old man

Posted by: krichardson7777 | April 25, 2009 6:59 PM | Report abuse

I'm sure I'm not the only 'Skins fan to see Jason Campbell receive 3-4 seconds to throw numerous times.

The Superbowl Steelers had more sacks than us and a weaker rushing attack than us and Big Ben did just fine.

Posted by: Vicc | April 25, 2009 6:21 PM

I agree this is a good pick, but you QB logic is laughable.

Why is Big Ben "fine" (3,301 yards, 17 TDs, 15 INTs, 80.1 QB rate) while Campbell needs to be "fixed" (3,245 yards, 13 TDs, 6 INTs, 84.3 QB rate)?

It's a team game, and Campbell is not the problem.

Posted by: Alan4 | April 25, 2009 6:59 PM | Report abuse

Did everyone at the Post call it a day? Has our braintrust retired from their table at the draft? Is there nothing worth reporting at all for an hour?

Posted by: SoCal_SkinsFan | April 25, 2009 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Reddog, the guys are doing interviews and writing. We also have newspaper deadlines.

Posted by: Cindy Boren | April 25, 2009 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, its been about 3 hours without Romo's face....amazing!

Posted by: cdepp1 | April 25, 2009 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Periculum, you sound like a little nerd who lives with his mom and plays too much Madden. You do know more than most of the idiots on here, I'll give you that. But don't get arrogant because you really don't know nearly as much as you think.

Although we clearly have a substantial need at the O-line, we haven't had a pass rush since Charles Mann and Dexter Manley. So of course everyone is going to be excited about Orakpo and Haynesworth, and until they prove to us that they were a waste of our time, how can you make outrageous claims implying that they will do absolutely nothing for us?

Posted by: adambward | April 25, 2009 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Redskins don't need a STARTING T this year. Blasphemy here I know, but its actually true. Orakpo will have immediate impact in the rotation at Dline. Rob Jackson can now stand up...that should be a great experiment that I hope yields good results.

DOESN'T ANYONE HERE READ? Orapko already stated that Vinny told him they planned on using him as the SLB. So, its the reverse Jackson is at DE, Orapko at SLB. If he manages to stay on the field for an entire season ... which hasn't happened yet. But then, the same can be said for Haynesworth.

Posted by: periculum | April 25, 2009 7:01 PM | Report abuse

With New England stock piling piks, how about the skins trade their first next year for 2 second rounders and a third this year.

Posted by: dobberx | April 25, 2009 7:01 PM | Report abuse

I think you can never go wrong with a stud pass rusher...

Posted by: SteveK25 | April 25, 2009 6:50 PM | Report abuse


Ummm, we managed to go wrong with Jason Taylor...


Posted by: p1funk | April 25, 2009 6:54 PM | Report abuse

Jason Taylor's leg almost exploded early in the season that's hardly an argument not to find a long term pass rusher. The last two teams to win the Super Bowl had an abundance of pass rushers that created nightmares for the opposing offenses. For a team whose high sack guy stumbled into 4 coverage sacks last year I think we can be happy with adding some blue chip pass rushing talent.

Posted by: SteveK25 | April 25, 2009 7:02 PM | Report abuse

They just don't need a STARTING T, they need GUARDS, CENTERS. They need them all.

Posted by: periculum | April 25, 2009 7:02 PM | Report abuse

You got to love that the Bills picked Aaron Maybin at 11. Thanks to the Jets, Raiders, and Broncos as well. Orakpo! Sweet!

Posted by: chavez66 | April 25, 2009 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Jason Taylor's leg almost exploded early in the season that's hardly an argument not to find a long term pass rusher.

Again, for the remedial readers here. HAYNESWORTH? DUH? What is he if not a pass rusher? That is why they got him isn't it? What is Carter? Because last year Haynesworth spent most of his time at DE on pass rushing downs. Its overkill when your OL is depleted!!!

Posted by: periculum | April 25, 2009 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Someone call the orderlies with the Thorazine... periculum is foaming at the mouth.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | April 25, 2009 6:52 PM

The Docs at St Elizabeths hospital should think seriously about revoking his internet access privileges. He needs sedation and giving him access to RI just stirs him up plus it needlessly clutters up the blog.

Posted by: AntonChigurh | April 25, 2009 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Thank you Jets...and especially!!! Al Davis. What a total idiot...hahahahaha. Him taking Bey started the dominoes falling to allow Orakpo to pick himself. Absolute no brainer taking a top 6 talent at number 13. Orakpo graded out higher than Oher on just about every evaluator's board that I have seen.

Don't let me neglect the Bills for the selection of Maybin, hahaha.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | April 25, 2009 7:05 PM | Report abuse

What is the best way to build a team's depth and meet needs?

Draft one time in the first 2 rounds at #13?
Or
Have 4 second rd selections like the Pats?

Here's hoping Orakpo gets the job done...

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | April 25, 2009 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Holy Crap!!!!!All the whiners who didn't want Sanchez are now Acting like spoiled wives who are unsatisfied with owning a BMW. ORAKPO IS A BEAST. ENJOY EATING YOUR WORDS DIP-@$*%s

Posted by: wewbank1 | April 25, 2009 7:06 PM | Report abuse

"I agree this is a good pick, but you QB logic is laughable.

Why is Big Ben "fine" (3,301 yards, 17 TDs, 15 INTs, 80.1 QB rate) while Campbell needs to be "fixed" (3,245 yards, 13 TDs, 6 INTs, 84.3 QB rate)?

It's a team game, and Campbell is not the problem.

Posted by: Alan4"


Big Ben is fine cause he has TWO SUPERBOWL RINGS while JC has ZERO post season wins


my god


are you listening to all the former NFL players doing the draft show right now? They are repeatedly saying this is a QB driven league.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | April 25, 2009 7:07 PM | Report abuse

First off, Andre Carter is hardly a good pass rusher and neither is Renaldo Wynn. They're good for depth and thats about it. So you're implying that one pass rusher
(a DT mind you, not even a DE) is all we need to generate a succesful pass rush?

Posted by: adambward | April 25, 2009 7:08 PM | Report abuse

And now the Bills take Wood instead of Unger... interesting. They have taken Maybin over Orakpo, and Wood over Unger.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | April 25, 2009 7:08 PM | Report abuse

periculum
They just don't need a STARTING T, they need GUARDS, CENTERS. They need them all.
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Hey old man maybe you forgot but we had the 13th pick. Not the 13, 14, 15, etc. You are a complaining dumb a$$ who cant be happy. Yes maybe we could have traded back but when a top 5 at least top 7 talent falls to you you got to grab him. Orkapo was rated higher on every mock draft the Oher. Get over your self and root for your team.

Posted by: krichardson7777 | April 25, 2009 7:08 PM | Report abuse

"Holy Crap!!!!!All the whiners who didn't want Sanchez are now Acting like spoiled wives who are unsatisfied with owning a BMW. ORAKPO IS A BEAST. ENJOY EATING YOUR WORDS DIP-@$*%s

Posted by: wewbank1"


You don't know if Orakpo will be a beast in the NFL and I don't know either. I'm okay with the pick, but I don't necessarily think Orakpo will be very good at all.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | April 25, 2009 7:09 PM | Report abuse

And you were a whiny, little fem who wanted Orapko or some other beast. You must spend a lot of time "spanking" that bad boy thinking about them don't you? Jest like Snidely!

Posted by: periculum

No, I was hoping to trade down our pick to grab Loadholt and Robinson, or some combination like that. If you feel so inclined, you can find posts where I said that over the last week.

But I also know the definition of a value pick, and Orakpo was just that sitting there at #13. We can still get a starter at RT or OLB in the 3rd round.

And Im done arguing with you, because reading your posts, you are arguing with everyone on this board, and you are clearly the most immature guy going around here.

Good luck with your insults.

Posted by: Rypien11 | April 25, 2009 7:09 PM | Report abuse

As an aside how bad must Rhinehardt be to be so utterly dismissed a year after being a third rounder? I mean he's a guard how badly can you mess that up next in one year?

Posted by: SteveK25 | April 25, 2009 6:50 PM | Report abuse
Jury is still out on Rinehart. Reports say he has stepped it up, but we won't know until Aug/Sept

Posted by: frediefritz | April 25, 2009 7:10 PM | Report abuse

no way Rey does, but you never know!

Posted by: TheTruth11 | April 25, 2009 6:44 PM
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No love for Caldwell?

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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | April 25, 2009 7:10 PM | Report abuse

Haynesworth will not line up at DE on passing downs unless they're doing some kind of crazy stunt. A third down rush of Carter, Haynesworth, daniels/wynn, orapko won't remind anyone of the giants Super Bowl rush of Strahan, Omenyura(sp?), tuck, and whoever the DT was but it's getting there. I would have been ok with Oher and def. feel the need to get a RT ASAP but I think we can still get a good rt prospect this year. Haynesworth can't do it all. This moves us from an average D-line to hopefully an above average one that can create some turnovers. Lets see what else they do for the O-line before we burn down Fedex field.

Posted by: SteveK25 | April 25, 2009 7:11 PM | Report abuse

How lucky is AZ with having Wells fall in their lap??

Posted by: slimbo-Rice | April 25, 2009 7:11 PM | Report abuse

any OT's left worth trading up into the 1st for?

Posted by: BT23 | April 25, 2009 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Beatty & Britton may go in 1st, but would be value picks in early to mid 2nd.

Posted by: frediefritz | April 25, 2009 7:12 PM | Report abuse

Lisa -

You are one of the few people who actually add value and real news to this blog. thanks for your contributions.

Posted by: toohoes | April 25, 2009 7:12 PM | Report abuse

A couple of Qs about the Jets/Browns deal. Funny that Mango would do business with a team that had fired him a few months ago. How did that happen? Also, whither the Skins now with the QB situation? What did the FO gain from the public wooing of Sanchez? Were they caught off guard with the Jets/Browns deal, thinking Mango would never talk to a team that had thrown him under the proverbial bus?

Posted by: AntonChigurh | April 25, 2009 7:13 PM | Report abuse

what do you guys think we should do in the third??? take an OL like loadhaldt/caldwell or focus on the D and shore it up with a SLB???

love ORKAKPOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

Posted by: AhsanFamily | April 25, 2009 7:15 PM | Report abuse

First, thanks to the Jets for saving our collective a$$es by taking Sanchez. They were able to keep Snyder from fuching up our draft. Second is we got a stud. Six three, 263lbs and runs a 4.6 40. Combine him with the new big man in the middle, add one good linebacker, and with our secondary, we'll have a top 3 defense. Can you say, fun to watch. Now if Jason can get the chip that he needs on his shoulder, and aquire that, I'm going to make a play no matter what attitude, we MIGHT have a team. Anticipation is high.

Posted by: TRACIETHEDOLPHIN | April 25, 2009 7:16 PM | Report abuse

yes the LT's didn't go as planned

there are two more guys that were repeatedly pimped as 1st rounders, usually from about 18-24, Ebon Britton and that Beatty guy from UConn.


but OL depth goes deep in this draft, like 5 rounds deep, seriously. Ridiclous depth in the OL

Posted by: TheTruth11 | April 25, 2009 7:16 PM | Report abuse

And Periculum (the sagging flesh to the side of the clitoris) is starting to refer the Skins as "yor" and "if your O-line ", unacceptable...And who died and gave him priviledges to post in bold, thickened type?? If a change doesn't come soon, then all my suspicions that Redskins Insider and it's editors and webbies, is overrun with MOLES, is CORRECT..

Posted by: frak | April 25, 2009 7:17 PM | Report abuse

Look..the Redskins have made many a bone-headed mistake in the past. I hated the Jason Taylor trade from the moment I found out about it. I still think it was one of the very worst (if not THE worst) trades I had ever witnessed.

But drafting Orakpo was smart. He was clearly...CLEARLY the best player available at 13 and filled a need. It doesn't matter that OL was a BIGGER need....you have to draft elite talent if it is available, and Orakpo is an elite talent. This is one instance in which the Redskins did something right for a change.

Posted by: Grover_Cleveland_80 | April 25, 2009 7:17 PM | Report abuse

I would like to trade up for Wells...

Posted by: slimbo-Rice | April 25, 2009 7:18 PM | Report abuse

I think you can never go wrong with a stud pass rusher...

Posted by: SteveK25 | April 25, 2009 6:50 PM | Report abuse


Ummm, we managed to go wrong with Jason Taylor...


Posted by: p1funk | April 25, 2009 6:54 PM | Report abuse

Jason Taylor's leg almost exploded early in the season that's hardly an argument not to find a long term pass rusher. The last two teams to win the Super Bowl had an abundance of pass rushers that created nightmares for the opposing offenses. For a team whose high sack guy stumbled into 4 coverage sacks last year I think we can be happy with adding some blue chip pass rushing talent.

Posted by: SteveK25 | April 25, 2009 7:02 PM | Report abuse


And so your point is that JT55 suffered last year b/c of injury? Well guess what - Orakpo has the same rap!!

Andre Carter had double digit sacks a couple of years ago. Last year he didn't...know why?

BECAUSE THE DEFENSIVE ENDS IN THIS SCHEME ARE TOLD TO PLAY THE RUN FIRST WHICH MITIGATES THEIR PASS-RUSHING ACUMEN.

If the plan is to play Orakpo at SLB, then it's going to be a fun ride watching our 13 pick learn a whole new position in the NFL...

Posted by: p1funk | April 25, 2009 7:20 PM | Report abuse

Big Ben is fine cause he has TWO SUPERBOWL RINGS while JC has ZERO post season wins

my god

Posted by: TheTruth11 | April 25, 2009 7:07 PM

Back to this line of reasoning again? Dan Marino has zero rings, but no one with any sense denies his greatness. Big Ben's performance last season compared to Campbell's. IMHO, Big Ben plays for a better team (#1 ranked defense), with more stable management.

As I said, it's a team game...

Posted by: Alan4 | April 25, 2009 7:22 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins are the best team to come along since the Nappyheads. I used to like the JewishNoses and Slantyeyes, but the 'Skins got 'em beat.

Go 'Skins.
Go 'Noses.
Go 'Heads,
Go 'Eyes.

Posted by: lennyjazz | April 25, 2009 7:22 PM | Report abuse

First, thanks to the Jets for saving our collective a$$es by taking Sanchez. They were able to keep Snyder from fuching up our draft. Second is we got a stud. Six three, 263lbs and runs a 4.6 40. Combine him with the new big man in the middle, add one good linebacker, and with our secondary, we'll have a top 3 defense. Can you say, fun to watch. Now if Jason can get the chip that he needs on his shoulder, and aquire that, I'm going to make a play no matter what attitude, we MIGHT have a team. Anticipation is high.

Posted by: TRACIETHEDOLPHIN | April 25, 2009 7:16 PM | Report abuse

HA!

Last year we had the #4 defense without spending $100mill on a tackle and our #13 pick on a 'tweener.

Jason doesn't need a friggin chip on his shoulder. He needs a right tackle who doesn't play like a turnstyle, and he needs a left tackle to step in adequately when Chris Samuels starts to wear down and get injured again.

Posted by: p1funk | April 25, 2009 7:23 PM | Report abuse

A couple of Qs about the Jets/Browns deal. Funny that Mango would do business with a team that had fired him a few months ago. How did that happen? Also, whither the Skins now with the QB situation? What did the FO gain from the public wooing of Sanchez? Were they caught off guard with the Jets/Browns deal, thinking Mango would never talk to a team that had thrown him under the proverbial bus?
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I think that the Jets gave away too much to get Sanchez. I flipped to ESPN and saw that they had to literally give away the store to CLE to get Sanchez. They spent too much, but that's their problem.

I don't know about the WAS FO being outsmarted. I think they made a dumb mistake by looking like they really wanted him. They probably drove up the price to a level that they couldn't afford. I'm glad that WAS didn't get Sanchez. They would have had to give away the store to get him.

Posted by: jiacinto | April 25, 2009 7:23 PM | Report abuse

Wells has no upside. He is what he is, and he's a very one dimensional runner. Pass on him, definitely.

IF we do trade up, which I don't want us to, but if we do, we need to look at one of those two first round graded OTs or my BOY REY MAUALUGA!


if Rey drops to us in the third, I think we might just take him based on the good ol BPA philosophy

Posted by: TheTruth11 | April 25, 2009 7:24 PM | Report abuse

The Patriots have FOUR SECONDS AND FOUR THIRDS!!!!! Thats freakin sick.

Posted by: Rypien11 | April 25, 2009 7:24 PM | Report abuse

J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS! Thank god the Jets saved us from ruining the draft AND getting a monster like Orakpo - just awesome. I am thrilled. Welcome to DC Sackpo! We needed a lot more help on the DL than the OL. I mean who is playing DE again: Carter, Daniels, and Wynn. Um yeah. OL needs help of course, but at least we have Dockery, Heyer, Reinhart can't be horrible, and let's get an OL with the 3rd rounder. ORAKPO is a dream to have @ 13. I'M ECSTATIC!!!

Oh and Sanchez have fun playing with the freakin' Jets ha ha ha ha.

Posted by: ar652 | April 25, 2009 7:24 PM | Report abuse

Looks like Rey Maualuga is going to fall to the 2nd round, unless Pitt has an interest.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | April 25, 2009 7:25 PM | Report abuse

I bet the Redskins trade some of next years pick for one of NE's FOUR 2nd round picks this year to pick up somebody they have fallen in love with. NE has four second rounders and four third rounders, they have to be looking to move some of those to next year

Posted by: davidpr16 | April 25, 2009 7:27 PM | Report abuse

skins did the right thing by take the d-end. a o-lineman is easier to get in the later rounds than an effective pass rusher on the end...be happy the skins didn't screw this up

Posted by: sports3 | April 25, 2009 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Yea I have to say that "TheTruth11" is a complete idiot. You just proved yourself wrong. Big Ben has 2 Superbowl rings and Jason Campbell 0 post-season wins. Big Ben had a worse rating last season than Jason Campbell. Now simple logic would tell you that the QB is not the defining factor in this situation....Idiot.

Posted by: adambward | April 25, 2009 7:28 PM | Report abuse

The FO talk about Sanchez was always just smoke... and JC knew it...

Posted by: chasgiffen | April 25, 2009 7:29 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if Steelers will grab Unger.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | April 25, 2009 7:29 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if anybody would be willing to give up a late 2nd Round Pick for Fred Davis....Given the tremendous OL Depth in the middle rounds of this draft, I'd trade Davis in a heartbeat.

Posted by: Grover_Cleveland_80 | April 25, 2009 7:30 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins are the best team to come along since the Nappyheads. I used to like the JewishNoses and Slantyeyes, but the 'Skins got 'em beat.

Go 'Skins.
Go 'Noses.
Go 'Heads,
Go 'Eyes.

Posted by: lennyjazz | April 25, 2009 7:22 PM

Go F yourself

Posted by: toohoes | April 25, 2009 7:31 PM | Report abuse

I doubt the Redskins will trade up into the second. They know they can get a good player in the 3rd.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | April 25, 2009 7:32 PM | Report abuse

Alan4, I'm so not getting into that stupid argument again. JC is our guy this year and he'll bring his average self and play average all year. Won't put us over the top, ever, but won't lose games for us. Yay.

Patriots are so stacked. Just another reason not to pay attention to mocks. Impossible to get the trades correct.

KEEP ON FALLING REY

Posted by: TheTruth11 | April 25, 2009 7:33 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if anybody would be willing to give up a late 2nd Round Pick for Fred Davis....Given the tremendous OL Depth in the middle rounds of this draft, I'd trade Davis in a heartbeat.

He was probably the best choice of the 3 amigos. No, not Davis, Cooley for multiple picks. They should ought to do that if someone were willing to accept his contract. Then, yes most definitely.

Posted by: Grover_Cleveland_80 | April 25, 2009

Posted by: periculum | April 25, 2009 7:34 PM | Report abuse

Now Detroit gets their OT.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | April 25, 2009 7:34 PM | Report abuse

Is there any chance at all that JLa can be held accountable here?

He started all the Sanchez rumors a long time back, and he's been beating that drum for all its worth. Now he looks all down in the mouth because, guess what, it was a smokescreen.

And now at last JC17 is reacting to all the crap.

Any chance we can get a reporter who doesn't hate the Skins, and do all he can to stir up the negative crap?

Posted by: SonofNero | April 25, 2009 7:34 PM | Report abuse

...I think they made a dumb mistake by looking like they really wanted him. They probably drove up the price to a level that they couldn't afford. I'm glad that WAS didn't get Sanchez. They would have had to give away the store to get him.

Posted by: jiacinto | April 25, 2009 7:23 PM |
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I doubt if driving the price up on Sanchez was an accident.

The Danny does many dumb things, but driving the price up on a draft pick he would need to trade up for has never been one of those things.

Look what happened: the Jets traded up for Sanchez, Al Davis made a ridiculous pick, and all of a sudden, we had a choice of players that didn't seem likely to fall to 13 a couple days back.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | April 25, 2009 7:34 PM | Report abuse

also for people complaining about not reaching on an OT, the depth for OTs goes deep and we could get someone with much better value in the third.

plenty of teams passed on Oher, I think they saw something in him after a deeper look. That should be our pick in the third unless someone great drops.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | April 25, 2009 7:34 PM | Report abuse

Ramses Barden in the third. If he is still there.

Posted by: periculum | April 25, 2009 7:35 PM | Report abuse

rey is gone to the pats book it, skins are taking a wr in the third

Posted by: sports3 | April 25, 2009 7:36 PM | Report abuse

I echo our thanks to the Jets. THANK YOU JETS!!!! Its amazing that we even had to worry about drafting Sanchez, but that said, our first round couldn't possibly have gone better than it did. Had we drafted in the 6th place, Orakpo still would have been a decent selection. At 13 he's a virtual steal!

Posted by: ndickover | April 25, 2009 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Now lets get a big OL pick at 80
Herman Johnson
LSU OT 6'7 364
OR
Alex Smith
Ala. OT 6'4 328
OR
Alex Bone
Ohio State OT 6'4 332


Posted by: changer1 | April 25, 2009 7:36 PM | Report abuse

"

Yea I have to say that "TheTruth11" is a complete idiot. You just proved yourself wrong. Big Ben has 2 Superbowl rings and Jason Campbell 0 post-season wins. Big Ben had a worse rating last season than Jason Campbell. Now simple logic would tell you that the QB is not the defining factor in this situation....Idiot.

Posted by: adambward"

Why don't you take jc's **** out of your mouth. i like JC and we can win with JC, but I see him for what he is. You would take JC over Big Ben? LOL have fun with that...


some of yall are crazy with the way yall build up our players. JC is solid, not spectacular. How can anyone argue any different?

Seneca Wallace had more TD's and less INT's than Campbell last year and he played in three less games. Is Seneca Wallace a great QB, too?

Posted by: TheTruth11 | April 25, 2009 7:37 PM | Report abuse

Ramses Barden in the third. If he is still there.

Posted by: periculum | April 25, 2009 7:35 PM | Report abuse

i second that but we need to trade into the second somehow

Posted by: amsaul | April 25, 2009 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Is there any chance at all that JLa can be held accountable here? He started all the Sanchez rumors a long time back, and he's been beating that drum for all its worth.
Posted by: SonofNero | April 25, 2009

What drivel ... sigh no wonder everyone hates watching the draft. Gee, unlike certain dolts he has an editor that checks his sources. And, gee wasn't the Redskins themselves that made the big announcement about fawning over Sanchez at Il Mulino? If anything that is probably what got to Jason. I sincerely doubt that happened to him before he was drafted. The guy who wanted him is now gone. Snyder is a complete and total Homer Simpson clone, gooey, stanky conk goo.

Posted by: periculum | April 25, 2009 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Is there any chance at all that JLa can be held accountable here? He started all the Sanchez rumors a long time back, and he's been beating that drum for all its worth.
Posted by: SonofNero | April 25, 2009

What drivel ... sigh no wonder everyone hates watching the draft. Gee, unlike certain dolts he has an editor that checks his sources. And, gee wasn't the Redskins themselves that made the big announcement about fawning over Sanchez at Il Mulino? If anything that is probably what got to Jason. I sincerely doubt that happened to him before he was drafted. The guy who wanted him is now gone. Snyder is a complete and total Homer Simpson clone, gooey, stanky conk goo.

Posted by: periculum | April 25, 2009 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Andre Carter:
Okay, he had 10 sacks a year ago , but last year he had FOUR...FOUR...and his record is HIGHLY inconsistent..I like Andre, HE'S A SKIN, but man, WE NEED CONSISTENT PASSRUSH..

http://www.nfl.com/players/andrecarter/profile?id=CAR609667

consistency not there..

..And Orakpo is a good effort to UPGRADE..

Posted by: frak | April 25, 2009 7:41 PM | Report abuse

We got Dockery back cheap. He was still young and mistake prone when the Bills padded his retirement fund... Now we get a really big guard back for his best years, hopefully. Coaches talk about him like he's cut to play the next Conan movie.

Randy Thomas and Jon Jansen have both had some tough injuries. But Kendall looked better than Thomas of late. They all should be fighting for playing time and a roster spot. Weather it is training or drafting, footwork and hands to pass protect are serious needs. Snyder get them some of those dance machines you see at the arcades. Left, forward, right, back.... Jump and spin. Santana Moss TD.

Posted by: chavez66 | April 25, 2009 7:41 PM | Report abuse

The skins did well, as they took the best player available to them AND it happened to be in a position of need for the current roster. I'd still like to seem the resign Marcus Washington to help tutor the young kid from TX for a year or two.

Interesting that Everette Brown, Chris Wells and Ray Maualuga have fallen so far down and look to be 2nd round steals. I think the team does need to address its Oline needs in the second round if possible. They might have to trade a player (Mike Sellers perhaps) and a mid round next year, but it sure would be nice to land one of the OK linemen, either the 6-8 350 lb OT or his teammate Duke Robinson, probably the top prosepect at OG. But they will both be gone in the 2nd round I think.

Posted by: oddjob1 | April 25, 2009 7:42 PM | Report abuse

If I'm Washington I start thinking hard about trying to trade up and drafting Maluluga.

Posted by: Original_etrod | April 25, 2009 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Seneca Wallace had more TD's and less INT's than Campbell last year and he played in three less games. Is Seneca Wallace a great QB, too?

Posted by: TheTruth11 | April 25, 2009

Who is his coach? How long has he been there? How long has the offensive system been with the team? C'mon Truth how many QB;s do you think could handle the kind of adversity that is and always will be the Washington Redskins as long as Snyder is the owner?

Posted by: periculum | April 25, 2009 7:43 PM | Report abuse

"ow lets get a big OL pick at 80
Herman Johnson
LSU OT 6'7 364
OR
Alex Smith
Ala. OT 6'4 328
OR
Alex Bone
Ohio State OT 6'4 332


Posted by: changer1"


those guys are a reach in the third

that's how stacked it is, those guys will go in the 5th or later from what I understand

better players will be there in the third

Posted by: TheTruth11 | April 25, 2009 7:43 PM | Report abuse

If I'm Washington I start thinking hard about trying to trade up and drafting Maluluga.

Posted by: Original_etrod | April 25, 2009

Sure if you trade Fletcher and Blades to get a couple of decent OL.

Posted by: periculum | April 25, 2009 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Ramses Barden in the third. If he is still there.

Posted by: periculum

I really hope youre kidding, because if youre not, this statement completely invalidates everything youve ever said.

You want to draft a 5-6th round projection in the 3rd when we wasted 3 2nd round picks at that position last year and have no offensive line?

You just owned yourself on that one.

Posted by: Rypien11 | April 25, 2009 7:44 PM | Report abuse

plenty of teams passed on Oher, I think they saw something in him after a deeper look. That should be our pick in the third unless someone great drops.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | April 25, 2009 7:34 PM
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The Ravens traded up to get Oher, in spite of the fact that they have two good starting tackles now.
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | April 25, 2009 7:45 PM | Report abuse

I'm not completely sold on Davis just yet; Cooley has at least shown ability to produce, albeit I question his effectiveness in Zorn's offense.

Whatever the case may be, we should try to trade one of these two Tight Ends....one does not need two elite pass-catching Tight Ends.

Posted by: Grover_Cleveland_80 | April 25, 2009 7:46 PM | Report abuse

send next years first to NE for 2 of their seconds.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | April 25, 2009 7:46 PM | Report abuse

Andre Carter:
Okay, he had 10 sacks a year ago , but last year he had FOUR...FOUR...and his record is HIGHLY inconsistent..I like Andre, HE'S A SKIN, but man, WE NEED CONSISTENT PASSRUSH..

http://www.nfl.com/players/andrecarter/profile?id=CAR609667

consistency not there..

..And Orakpo is a good effort to UPGRADE..

Posted by: frak | April 25, 2009 7:41 PM | Report abuse

Well he can now join Chris Wilson, Alex buzbee and rob Jackson in our collection of 'tweeners that are supposed to "upgrade" our pass rush...

Wasn't our new $100 million DT supposed to be the Upgrade?

Posted by: p1funk | April 25, 2009 7:46 PM | Report abuse

the only people that teams may have an interest in are players like betts, ARE, fred davis...

the skins need to work hard packaging players such as the ones mentioned above with the Pats to get a combo of second/third rd picks

Posted by: AhsanFamily | April 25, 2009 7:46 PM | Report abuse

send next years first to NE for 2 of their seconds.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | April 25, 2009 7:46 PM | Report abuse


...and take who?

Posted by: p1funk | April 25, 2009 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Ray is going to denver now

Posted by: slimbo-Rice | April 25, 2009 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Now lets get a big OL pick at 80
Herman Johnson
LSU OT 6'7 364
OR
Alex Smith
Ala. OT 6'4 328
OR
Alex Bone
Ohio State OT 6'4 332

Posted by: changer1 | April 25, 2009 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Alex Boone as a drinking problem, wouldn't touch him until 5th or 6th rd

Posted by: frediefritz | April 25, 2009 7:48 PM | Report abuse

..And Orakpo is a good effort to UPGRADE..
Posted by: frak | April 25, 2009>

And HAYNESWORTH is a good effort to UPGRADE ...

Orakpo is going to be groomed to replace MWash. I think Wilson has a better chance myself. But we'll see. Rob Jackson is still on the roster.

If its for pass rush and the line its OVERKILL especially with the other needs ... If its to play SLB at a pro bowl lever then it will meet a need ... NOT the friggin' pass rush ...

Posted by: periculum | April 25, 2009 7:49 PM | Report abuse

We need to trade up to get Britton, Rey, or Brown.

Posted by: DemBakerBoyz | April 25, 2009 7:52 PM | Report abuse

Well he can now join Chris Wilson, Alex buzbee and rob Jackson in our collection of 'tweeners that are supposed to "upgrade" our pass rush...

Wasn't our new $100 million DT supposed to be the Upgrade?

Posted by: p1funk | April 25, 2009

I can see why most of the regular posters are gone ... to many here with nary a clue ... now we know where Snidely gets it from ... good luck convincing them that even with Orakpo the pass rush problem is solved. When the defense falls from 4th to whatever I wonder what they will say? Can I "bwahahahaha" at them?

Posted by: periculum | April 25, 2009 7:53 PM | Report abuse

I wanted them to take Orakpo all along, FINALLY they throw a 1st rounder at a real area of need for going on a decade now. Time will tell whether they should've taken Oher there or not, but on paper this looks good. Thank God the Jets saved Danny from himself!

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 25, 2009 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Seneca Wallace had more TD's and less INT's than Campbell last year and he played in three less games. Is Seneca Wallace a great QB, too?

Posted by: TheTruth11 | April 25, 2009

Who is his coach? How long has he been there? How long has the offensive system been with the team? C'mon Truth how many QB;s do you think could handle the kind of adversity that is and always will be the Washington Redskins as long as Snyder is the owner?

Posted by: periculum | April 25, 2009 7:43 PM | Report abuse

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LOL... QB has always been an issue in this town... Snyder was in Diapers when Sonny/Sam was being debated... haha

Campbell needs to let it fly this year or he will be looking for a new team... I still don't believe he can throw over the shoulder of a defender or hit a WR in a zone with defenders in front & behind... This is what the good QB's can do... even Romo does this with Witten. I would like to see Campbell make these throws without being scared of a turnover.

Posted by: tony325 | April 25, 2009 7:54 PM | Report abuse

I'd say Miami and SF will go OT.

Posted by: periculum | April 25, 2009 7:54 PM | Report abuse

p1, britton beaty loadholt robinson, pick 2, or how about jeria perry,

Posted by: BeantownGreg | April 25, 2009 7:55 PM | Report abuse

"Well he can now join Chris Wilson, Alex buzbee and rob Jackson in our collection of 'tweeners that are supposed to "upgrade" our pass rush..."

Are you serious in comparing a first round talent like Orakpo with Chris Wilson, Alex Buzbee, or Rob Jackson here?

While we're at it, let's go ahead and compare Michael Oher with Stephon Heyer, Michael Crabtree with Anythony Mix, and Alex Mack with Justin Geisinger.

Posted by: psps23 | April 25, 2009 7:55 PM | Report abuse

"

send next years first to NE for 2 of their seconds.

Posted by: BeantownGre"

don't think that's possible


Seattle just traded next year's 1st for one second rounder


I don't wanna do that, not a fan of that.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | April 25, 2009 7:56 PM | Report abuse

OK, Rey's gone and my senses has returned. Let's hope Britton falls to the 3rd!

Posted by: Original_etrod | April 25, 2009 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Beantown's right...there are many quality NFL-caliber OL still on the board. I'm guessing there will be a run on OL somewhere in the middle of the 2nd round.

Posted by: Grover_Cleveland_80 | April 25, 2009 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Seneca Wallace had more TD's and less INT's than Campbell last year and he played in three less games. Is Seneca Wallace a great QB, too?

Posted by: TheTruth11 | April 25, 2009

Truth be told, Senaca Wallace had less TD's than Campbell and a couple thousand less yards. But he is an excellent situational player, much like Collins was under Al Saunders. He's been in place for 6 years (5 under Zorn) learning the offense watching 3 time Pro-Bowler Hasselbeck (who broke out in his 5th season, 3rd under Zorn).

Obviously the Seahawks are happy with Wallace, because they didn't bother drafting a Sanchez as some anticipated.

Seahawks groom QBs; Skins kill 'em before than can grow. Hopefully that changes this year.

Posted by: Alan4 | April 25, 2009 7:59 PM | Report abuse

I would like to see Campbell make these throws without being scared of a turnover.

Posted by: tony325 | April 25, 2009

If he had an OL and receivers who could play and not drop his passes. As I've stated in his first 4 years Peyton Manning did what you suggest. He also averaged over 20 INTs a year. And the Colts up and down record (not dissimilar to the Redskins) reflected that. You don't understand football at the pro level when you make such statements. Brett Favre did what you suggest last year. But he also threw way too many INTs. And where did that get the Jets?

Posted by: periculum | April 25, 2009 8:01 PM | Report abuse

DOH!

Posted by: Original_etrod | April 25, 2009 8:02 PM | Report abuse

DRAFT A COUPLE OF OT/G AND RAMSES DARDEN. THEN LET'S JUDGE JASON CAMPBELL.

Posted by: periculum | April 25, 2009 8:02 PM | Report abuse

Well Britton is gone.

Posted by: DemBakerBoyz | April 25, 2009 8:03 PM | Report abuse

"Thank God the Jets saved Danny from himself!

Posted by: brownwood26"

To be fair, it seemed as if Snyder got the guy he was targeting all along. Didn't take him longer than 20 seconds to submit the pick. Whether or not they actually had interest in Sanchez is debatable, but the effect of a "smokescreen" certainly worked to perfection. Not only did they ensure Sanchez would be picked ahead of them (giving them one less team that would target Orakpo before the Redskins), but coincidentally the pick came in the slot that many experts had Orakpo going to in the first place (Cleveland). Couldn't have worked out better.

That is, if that's what they meant to do...

Posted by: psps23 | April 25, 2009 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Let' move up for Pat White...

Posted by: slimbo-Rice | April 25, 2009 8:04 PM | Report abuse

There goes Britton. But there are other OL and Ramses is still there.

Posted by: periculum | April 25, 2009 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Lisa -

You are one of the few people who actually add value and real news to this blog. thanks for your contributions.

Posted by: toohoes

Thanks, Toohoes :)

Posted by: Lisa_R | April 25, 2009 8:04 PM | Report abuse

The Skins get an SLB. The Eagles and Giants get WR. Dallas did not have a first. Now the fun begins ... when the Skins are mostly out and the others are in.

Posted by: periculum | April 25, 2009 8:06 PM | Report abuse

I would like to see Campbell make these throws without being scared of a turnover.

Posted by: tony325 | April 25, 2009

If he had an OL and receivers who could play and not drop his passes. As I've stated in his first 4 years Peyton Manning did what you suggest. He also averaged over 20 INTs a year. And the Colts up and down record (not dissimilar to the Redskins) reflected that. You don't understand football at the pro level when you make such statements. Brett Favre did what you suggest last year. But he also threw way too many INTs. And where did that get the Jets?

Posted by: periculum | April 25, 2009 8:01 PM | Report abuse

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Periculum I believe you are a guy who played high school ball or college ball but never were quite good enough to make it to the next level... so you come here & give a bunch of people sh!t & it makes you feel better...

You take everything I say too literal... WTF I'm talking about is, Jason Campbell needs to improve or he's gone... Peyton Manning, Romo, other PRO QB's can make these throws but Jason won't even attempt them. If he can't then there is no need for him to be in the league! Being a nice guy will only get you so far...

Posted by: tony325 | April 25, 2009 8:08 PM | Report abuse

"He told me how he could he could help me get a lot of sacks," Orakpo said. "But I already knew that from watching him with the Titans. I was blessed to play with some great defensive tackles at Texas, so I know how much that helps in rushing the passer. I think Albert and I will be pretty tight."

Orakpo talking about he and AHaynes....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | April 25, 2009 8:08 PM | Report abuse

I wanted them to take Orakpo all along, FINALLY they throw a 1st rounder at a real area of need for going on a decade now.

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 25, 2009

Sigh, again THEY SIGNED HAYNESWORTH TO DO THAT!! Orapko is Marcus Washington's replacement. He isn't going to play end.

Posted by: periculum | April 25, 2009 8:09 PM | Report abuse

Ugh how bad does the worthless JTaylor trade hurt right now...

We could be drafting Sintim or Unger or Beatty :(

Posted by: mac2j | April 25, 2009 8:11 PM | Report abuse

What kind of damage control do you think the FO has to do with Jason Campbell? They dragged him through the mud for the past couple of months and I think the last straw the fell with all the Sanchez talk may have broken the camel's back as there were millions of straws underneath it.

Posted by: JinxMan | April 25, 2009 8:12 PM | Report abuse

If its for pass rush and the line its OVERKILL especially with the other needs ... If its to play SLB at a pro bowl lever then it will meet a need ... NOT the friggin' pass rush ...

Posted by: periculum

He was the highest-rated player for a position of need..No, he'll be the DE that makes Haynesworth SHINE..C'mon, man, enjoy the fandom, now we work on OT, and LB..Or do you get the a** with the mailman on a regular basis??..

Posted by: frak | April 25, 2009 8:13 PM | Report abuse

You take everything I say too literal... WTF I'm talking about is, Jason Campbell needs to improve or he's gone... Peyton Manning, Romo, other PRO QB's can make these throws but Jason won't even attempt them.

That's patently false doood. Besides, I AM A REJECT FROM ALT.FLAME. And I channel through Priest Holmes ... LOL and like Maulauga I am waaaay too slow a foot.

Here read what Scouts says about Campbell ... for the umpteenth time:

Comment: He is a good overall athlete with good size and a strong arm. He has quick feet in his pass drops and set up. He adjusts quickly when he sees pressure, but doesn't have a great feel for the rush yet when his eyes are down field. He will get his eyes locked on receivers at times and be late to escape or avoid. He can buy time with his feet and he is a good athlete, once he is outside the box, to make plays with his legs. He needs to improve his overall vision and pocket adjustments. He will only get better with more experience. He has a little bit of a wind up release, but the ball comes off his hand quickly once he makes his decision. He showed good touch on underneath throws and a strong enough arm to deliver accurately on deeper throws. He has good touch on vertical routes and toward the sideline. He has enough arm strength to put good velocity on the ball and drive it into tight spots. He has shown improved timing with his three and five-step drops since becoming the starter. While he will pre-determine where he is going, he is accurate enough to get the ball into his receivers' hands. He has a good combination of size, athletic ability and arm strength. However, he needs to improve his ball security and overall feel for pressure. He is a solid, young player to build around. He will only get better with experience.

Posted by: periculum | April 25, 2009 8:13 PM | Report abuse

To be fair, it seemed as if Snyder got the guy he was targeting all along. Didn't take him longer than 20 seconds to submit the pick. Whether or not they actually had interest in Sanchez is debatable, but the effect of a "smokescreen" certainly worked to perfection. Not only did they ensure Sanchez would be picked ahead of them (giving them one less team that would target Orakpo before the Redskins), but coincidentally the pick came in the slot that many experts had Orakpo going to in the first place (Cleveland). Couldn't have worked out better.

That is, if that's what they meant to do...

Posted by: psps23 | April 25, 2009 8:04 PM | Report abuse

I agree, psps. All the crazy posting over the last week about chez...and it was mainly smokescreen. I certainly understand the concern, considering the history of thr FO. But we should be happy with the FO handling so far. We still have 2010 picks, and we got a real stud with a value pick at 13. Let's sit tight and see what they do at #80.

Posted by: frediefritz | April 25, 2009 8:14 PM | Report abuse

PFWeekly's analysis

With Jason Taylor being released, the Redskins needed to upgrade their pass rush. Orakpo not only possesses the first-step explosiveness to become a factor terrorizing the quarterback, he has the strength defensive coordinator Greg Blache desires to play physical and leverage the run. With Albert Haynesworth and Orakpo getting after the quarterback, the Redskins are creating a pass rush to compete with the Giants' feared front.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | April 25, 2009 8:15 PM | Report abuse

>>>If the Skins got Oher, JLC would've said he wanted Orakpo.

Absolutely! Criticizing or taking a shot at the Redskins is almost reflexive with him.

Posted by: p_chuck | April 25, 2009 8:17 PM | Report abuse

I enjoy being happily suprised!

Posted by: chrislarry | April 25, 2009 8:17 PM | Report abuse

He was the highest-rated player for a position of need..No, he'll be the DE that makes Haynesworth SHINE..C'mon, man, enjoy the fandom, now we work on OT, and LB..Or do you get the a** with the mailman on a regular basis??..

Posted by: frak | April 25, 2009

Are you really that stupid or were you run over by a mail truck as an infant? HAYNESWORTH PLAYS DE ON PASSING DOWNS because he lacks the discipline to play DT on those downs. He likes to freelance. That is what his coach at Tennessee did with him. Much like Arrington don't you think? Orapko is a LINEBACKER, HE WILL PLAY SLB.

Posted by: periculum | April 25, 2009 8:18 PM | Report abuse

And like Arrington Orapko WILL RUSH THE PASSER from SLB

Posted by: periculum | April 25, 2009 8:19 PM | Report abuse

Let's see who the 'Phins take with our pick...

Posted by: Yoder-lay-hee-who | April 25, 2009 8:19 PM | Report abuse

Lisa -
You are one of the few people who actually add value and real news to this blog. thanks for your contributions.
Posted by: toohoes
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I just spit milk out of my nose....and I wasn't drinking milk.

Posted by: isnadd | April 25, 2009 8:20 PM | Report abuse

periculum, you are in rare form today.
lighten up Francis.

Posted by: isnadd | April 25, 2009 8:21 PM | Report abuse

Sigh, again THEY SIGNED HAYNESWORTH TO DO THAT!! Orapko is Marcus Washington's replacement. He isn't going to play end.

Posted by: periculum

Good thing we have you up here to shout everybody down in bold and caps. Perhaps you want JLa's job? Reading you is why this draft has been tiresome. Asshat.

Posted by: SonofNero | April 25, 2009 8:21 PM | Report abuse

improve his ball security and overall feel for pressure. He is a solid, young player to build around. He will only get better with experience.


Posted by: periculum | April 25, 2009 8:13 PM | Report abuse

__________________

How much time does he need?? Matt Ryan, Phillip Rivers, Aaron Rogers, Jay Cutler, & anyone else I'm missing that has been in the league for same time or less... OH almost forgot, Joe Flacco... All these QB's have had WAY better careers in numbers or have made it further in the playoffs than Jason Campbell... eventually you run out of excuses for the guy.

Posted by: tony325 | April 25, 2009 8:22 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: Cindy Boren | April 25, 2009 8:24 PM | Report abuse

And like Arrington Orapko WILL RUSH THE PASSER from SLB

Posted by: periculum

Suffah, tarantula breath mole, suffah.
(to paraphrase that great Washingtonian, Duke Ellington)...

Posted by: frak | April 25, 2009 8:24 PM | Report abuse

Good thing we have you up here to shout everybody down in bold and caps. Perhaps you want JLa's job? Reading you is why this draft has been tiresome. Asshat.

Posted by: SonofNero

Can't believe that you actually read his posts.

As Flounder mentioned, that's just punishing yourself.

Posted by: Curzon417 | April 25, 2009 8:26 PM | Report abuse

What kind of damage control do you think the FO has to do with Jason Campbell? They dragged him through the mud for the past couple of months and I think the last straw the fell with all the Sanchez talk may have broken the camel's back as there were millions of straws underneath it.

Posted by: JinxMan
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None. Unlike the Cutler deal, the Sanchez talk was just that, all talk/strategy... and JC was in on it with the FO.

Posted by: chasgiffen | April 25, 2009 8:29 PM | Report abuse

Orapko is a LINEBACKER, HE WILL PLAY SLB.

Posted by: periculum | April 25, 2009 8:18 PM | Report abuse

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If you watched the Zorn/Cerrato press conference, you would have heard them say that he is playing DE.

Posted by: John_Keats | April 25, 2009 8:54 PM | Report abuse

I think Orakpo is a great pick and wouldn't part with him, but did you see what the Browns did?

Traded Sanchez for seven players!

From the Jets they got 1st and 2nd picks plus a DE,QB, and DB.

Traded down again to get 1st and 6th from the Bucs.

Traded down again to get 1st and 6th from the Eagles.

Finally picked a first rounder (a modest, unflashy pick of a Center) and got the best Center in the draft?

The 2 6th rounders might be negligable but who knows? They might find a Horton.

Still 2nd, 6th, and 6th to boot.

The players: They picked up a Colt Brennan. The DE could be a Andre Carter. Maybe better? Kenyon Coleman is listed with measurables of 4.94 40 and 32 reps in the 225 bench. Is it his former combine or current? He led all 3-4 DE in tackles with 83 in 2007. And his salary is low. Production for cheap, what a concept! The DB is a strong safety named Abram Elam who is projected as a starter for the Browns. He may not be Laron Landry but you got to figure he's better than Reed Doughty.

Two starters? and a Colt. 2+6+6 and a future Nick Mangold. All that for John David Booty's backup at USC.

Posted by: chavez66 | April 25, 2009 9:01 PM | Report abuse

Orakpo 6'3" 260 not a linebacker. He will get bigger, runs like a deer.I say great pick!! If we took the lineman from Ole Miss. You all would have cried we needed dline. Some of you folks in here are Morons with a capital M. We got what we needed we had no pass rush at all. the oline will come together. I guarantee the olines in the nfc east dont want to face our dline now. All you haters get out and go cry in the Raiders Discussion because they are a lot worse than we are. Now thats a bad pick they made.

Posted by: toyota44 | April 25, 2009 9:07 PM | Report abuse

with our first rounder i hope you guys get off the snyder cerrato bash bandwagon im tired of hearing it, i know they struggled druing the deion/bruce smith era but they are learning on the job and will bring a ring to dc

Posted by: sports3 | April 25, 2009 9:20 PM | Report abuse

Good job, glad we didnt do anything foolish with our picks like Denver did. Agree on an OL next pick or two.

Posted by: skinsfanfrmbirth | April 25, 2009 9:36 PM | Report abuse

Great pick!!! even thou they should have waited the allowed time to see if someone offered more picks for Orakpo, its fills one of the redskins greatest needs. By the way, the Jets have been pushed, beated, naked, raped and robbed in a dark alley by a bunch of browns mobs :P (That Sanchez guy better be the next Joe Namath)

Posted by: arbano1 | April 25, 2009 9:40 PM | Report abuse

Stop with the bashing of Jason, please.

The Post needs to step in and do something about the ignorance and abhorrent behavior toward a hard-working reporter on this board. It's ridiculous.

All of you who spew your anonymous hatred are the reason the web is such a hostile, vindictive place. At least have the guts, if you're going to trash a man, to give your real name and real email address.

Do you have any understanding of what the job is?

Of course not. What you want, is a secretary for the Redskins, a homer, a Mel Kiper Jr., a cheerleader.

Jason, keep up the good work and don't let the ignorati bring you down.

I'm sorry for your sake that, because of the changes in the business, the internet yahoos get the last word. It's pathetic, and a real shame.

Hang in there.

Posted by: DentonTK | April 25, 2009 10:32 PM | Report abuse

jlc is a complete piece of sh-- this is the best pick since #21. hey piece of sh-- when did Ohher get picked? I guess all those teams would of passed on Okapor too.

Posted by: rskinz34 | April 25, 2009 10:58 PM | Report abuse

SUCK IT JLC

Posted by: duncanrobee | April 25, 2009 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Good pick - I don't know if you read the book about Oher (Blindside), but the guy is not very smart, like not smart at all. Very dicey to pick Oher who went 23 anyway.

Posted by: archidawgg | April 25, 2009 11:16 PM | Report abuse

Jlc I forgot your years of experience at being a GM in the NFL. Your such an ass.

Posted by: rskinz34 | April 25, 2009 11:35 PM | Report abuse

Brian Orakpo - I love this pick. He can play left defensive end or stand up to play the strong side linebacker. On passing plays he can be the SAM linebacker in back of Philip Daniels (or Rob Jackson or Alex Buzbee) or he can play defensive end with H.B. Blades (or Chris wilson or Robert Thomas) as the SAM linebacker. Eventually he will be come a full time definsive end lined up next to Albert Haynesworth - AWESOME!

Hopefully tomorrow we will get some offensive linemen (especially a good tackle) and maybe another SAM linebacker. So far I really like what the Skins have done in the offseason!!!

Posted by: BeerKeg | April 25, 2009 11:40 PM | Report abuse

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