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Skins Wrap Up Draft by Taking a WR

With their 243rd (compensatory) pick, the Skins chose Nevada wide receiver Marko Mitchell.

According to a scout who is familiar with Mitchell, he has a big frame but is something of a project. He's a good straight-line runner, but a poor route runner and plays with a stiff lower body. He pulled up with a hamstring injury during his pro day workout and was urged to push through it by scouts.

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More on Eddie Williams, the tight end the Redskins took out of Idaho. He'd fallen off some boards as a medical risk because he tore his anterior cruciate ligament in the next-to-last game of Idaho's season and had surgery. He is seen as someone who has talent but will need some time to get healthy. Fortunately, the Skins have that luxury with Chris Cooley, Fred Davis and Todd Yoder (who's still under contract). Williams is projected as being more of a slot receiver than a blocker.

By Jason La Canfora  |  April 26, 2009; 6:59 PM ET
 
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Comments

FIRST to say why?

Posted by: duncanrobee | April 26, 2009 7:01 PM | Report abuse

That's puts the icing on the duki..

Posted by: ga8085 | April 26, 2009 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Hopefully he'll push #11 and #12.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | April 26, 2009 7:01 PM | Report abuse

two more receivers. wonderful.

Posted by: whughes1 | April 26, 2009 7:01 PM | Report abuse

This guy is good, nice upside pick who is a big time vertical threat...

Posted by: HenryStin | April 26, 2009 7:01 PM | Report abuse

hahahahahahahah bravo vinny

Posted by: nitrojunkie_20723 | April 26, 2009 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Why ask why?

Posted by: Kenbeatrizz | April 26, 2009 7:02 PM | Report abuse

Does every play we draft have an injury? Is the the MELWOOD draft? Tell me I am having a bad nightmare?

Posted by: slimbo-Rice | April 26, 2009 7:02 PM | Report abuse

Could be a sleeper here ... still NO OL, NO OL, NO OL

Overall Football Traits
Production 3 2006: Mitchell transfers to Nevada from Mesa Community College. He starts seven of the 13 games he appears in catching 39 passes for a total of 483 yards and four touchdowns. 2007: Mitchell leads the team in receptions (53), receiving yards (1,129) and receiving touchdowns. (Eight) 2008: Mitchell catches 61 passes for a total of 1,141 yards and 10 touchdowns.

Height-Weight-Speed 2 Prototypical height, adequate bulk and adequate top-end speed.

Durability 1 Durability is not a concern to our knowledge.

Character 3 Scouts always take closer looks at community college transfers but he has kept grades in check and as far as we know there have been no off-the-field issues.

Wide Receiver specific Traits
Separation Skills 3 Fast enough to get over-the-top of defensive backs on occasion. Big frame, decent leaping ability and long arms makes ability to separate from coverage less of as concern. Sloppy route runner that rounds off far too many cuts. Doesn't appear to read defenses well at this point and has some problems locating seams in zone looks.

Ball Skills 3 Big and strong hands. Does a good job of tracking ball and getting head turned around in time to locate passes thrown over shoulder. Consistently catches passes thrown over head. Plucks the ball out of the air with hands when it's thrown chest-high or higher but any passes thrown lower that typically get to frame.

Vertical Speed 2 Adequate top-end speed, show a second gear when tracking the ball downfield and wins more than share of jump balls downfield. Uses long arms and big frame to snatch the ball away and/or shield defenders. Averaged more than 21 yards per catch in 2005, averaged 21.3 yards per catch in 2007 and averaged 18.7 yards per catch in 2008.

Run After Catch 3 Not overly elusive; won't consistently make the first defender miss. Catch-to-run transition is a bit slow but builds speed as goes and capable of hitting a homerun given a crease. Breaks tackles and drags defenders for extra yards at the end of runs.

Competitiveness and Toughness 2 Competitive athlete. Some of best performances (and clutch catches) have come versus top competition such as Miami and Arizona State in 2006 and Fresno State and Boise State in 2007. Not afraid to throw weight around and a willing blocker but needs to improve strength and refine technique.

Posted by: periculum | April 26, 2009 7:02 PM | Report abuse

01/17/2009 - Wolf Pack wide receiver Marko Mitchell failed to impress the NFL scouts at the East-West Shrine Game. Mitchell played most of the second half and finished without a catch. Mitchell had a few opportunities during the game, dropping two balls that hit him right in the hands. He even had a chance to make the game-winning touchdown grab. The West trailed the East 24-19 with two minutes to go. West quarterback Stephen McGee threw a "jump-ball" pass to Mitchell in the corner of the endzone, but the ball sailed right through his hands. The East won the game 24-19. Mitchell also made news this week at practice. Several scouts listed him as one of the biggest disappointments of the week. He's still holding out hope that he'll receive and invitation to the upcoming NFL combine. - Josh Little, KOLO TV - Reno, NV

Posted by: SoCal_SkinsFan | April 26, 2009 7:02 PM | Report abuse

and with our final pick we take a WR!!!!! and so ends the worst second day in history.....

Posted by: zjfr2 | April 26, 2009 7:02 PM | Report abuse

This draft ended awful.....Marko Mitchell???? What are they thinking? What needs did they fill outside of Orakpo? Another pass catching, non-blocking tightend? Two undersized linebackers, one with almost no experience at the position??

Posted by: rudybux1 | April 26, 2009 7:02 PM | Report abuse

The redskins BLOW

Posted by: skinsflorida | April 26, 2009 7:02 PM | Report abuse

W T F ? ? ? ?

at least pretend to take your time and think about your pick. i understand you guys are completely ignoring team needs and being a buch of tards, but pretend so the optomists can have a little hope

Posted by: sidkid31 | April 26, 2009 7:03 PM | Report abuse

I think the intern made that last pick. It seems smarter relative to the player chosen not necessarily addressing a need.

Posted by: periculum | April 26, 2009 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Wolf Pack wide receiver Marko Mitchell failed to impress the NFL scouts at the East-West Shrine Game. Mitchell played most of the second half and finished without a catch. Mitchell had a few opportunities during the game, dropping two balls that hit him right in the hands. He even had a chance to make the game-winning touchdown grab.

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Terribad Day 2

We drafted 4 guys that no other team had any intention of picking.

We passed on potential starters/backups at OG, OT, OLB, and C.

Posted by: mac2j | April 26, 2009 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Where is the O line? there were plenty of big OT from Wisconsin and other big schools! Cerrato is incompetent! We wasted this draft as usual. SUCKS!

Posted by: KurtShanaman | April 26, 2009 7:03 PM | Report abuse

practice squad. Like the size 6'4 and speed 4.49. 89,82,11,12,83 already on the roster. Just wish they would have addressed the OL & LB position on the 2nd day. Amazing how this team is competitive w/ an absolute incompetent front office.

Posted by: jwcallahan91 | April 26, 2009 7:04 PM | Report abuse

However, his inability to run correct routes, get his head around to see the ball, secure the catch or even give the effort to adjust to poorly thrown balls made him the most disappointing player on the field. - Chad Reuter, The SportsXchange, NFLDraftScout


So...let's recap...suspect hands and a poor route-runner. Too bad his knees are healthy (so far), otherwise he fits the mold entirely.

Posted by: SoCal_SkinsFan | April 26, 2009 7:04 PM | Report abuse

sigh....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | April 26, 2009 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Ancient, decrepit WAY TOO OLD and injured OL means we lose.

Posted by: periculum | April 26, 2009 7:05 PM | Report abuse

No need to draft offensive linemen, no need to invite offensive linemen to camp -- just put a want ad in the Post.

Who needs a draft and invites when you can simply hire walk-ons from the street. I mean, obviously the offensive line is not all that important, after all, the defense is not allowed to rush until they count five-Mississippi, so why waste your picks drafting for the OL?

Posted by: ooyah32 | April 26, 2009 7:05 PM | Report abuse

No need to draft offensive linemen, no need to invite offensive linemen to camp -- just put a want ad in the Post.

Who needs a draft and invites when you can simply hire walk-ons from the street. I mean, obviously the offensive line is not all that important, after all, the defense is not allowed to rush until they count five-Mississippi, so why waste your picks drafting for the OL?

Posted by: ooyah32 | April 26, 2009 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Gotta be the worst draft I've paid attention to by the Redskins. Completely ignore reality and just grab at guys who most other teams were not interested in. The TE in the 7th is likely an IR guy this coming season, why waste the pick, he's going to be FA, no one else would have bothered drafting the guy.

Not sure what the thinking behind this one is, are you dead set on making Campbell rue the day YOU traded 3 picks to get him?

I can't find anything to make this draft seem positive at the moment.

Posted by: anotherwes | April 26, 2009 7:05 PM | Report abuse

At least our draft wasn't as bad as Dallas.
They had zero first day picks, and 12 late round picks... and they took 11 DEs and 1 QB. Not exactly drafting for needs there, huh JJ?

Posted by: jgarrisn | April 26, 2009 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Awesome finish to an awesome draft!

Great job, Vinny, Danny, and everyone at the Park!

Hooray!

Posted by: NateinthePDX | April 26, 2009 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Yeah I question these final picks. Don't we have enough wide receivers?

Posted by: jiacinto | April 26, 2009 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Well, that's the Nevada TV station's take re the East/West game.

NFL.com states:

Overview:

The Mesa (Ariz.) Community College transfer has developed into one of the country's most feared big-play threats. He's had similar production in his first two years, leading the Wolfpack in receptions (53 in 2007, 61 in 2008), receiving yards (1,129, 1,141) and receiving touchdowns (eight, ten). He ranked second in the nation averaging 21.3 yards per catch as a junior, but finally made first team All-WAC this season. Those outstanding numbers are boosted by Nevada's unique "pistol" offense, but his rare combination of height and straight-line speed makes him a difficult matchup for any cornerback. Had an arm span of 34 1/2 inches and a hand span of 10 1/4 inches at the combine.

Junior College:

Earned first-team all-conference and all-district honors at Mesa (Ariz.) Community College...Had 34 catches for 719 yards and eight touchdowns...Averaged 21.1 yards per catch.

High School:

Was also a standout basketball player.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | April 26, 2009 7:07 PM | Report abuse

you idiots were likely saying the same bullcrap last year when we drafted chris horton in the 7th. we have good scouts! we always draft well! have some faith idiots

Posted by: amccabe3 | April 26, 2009 7:07 PM | Report abuse

On a positive note, Chris Carter picks Orakpo as defensive Rookie of the year.

There. I can TOO be positive.

Posted by: TheCork | April 26, 2009 7:07 PM | Report abuse

Cody Glenn is gonna start at quarterback this year and going to the probowl....yea not really

Posted by: skinsst21 | April 26, 2009 7:08 PM | Report abuse

Scouting analysis of college players is as varied as financial analysts' views on emerging stocks.

You can always find one who will tell you what you want to hear, good or bad.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | April 26, 2009 7:09 PM | Report abuse

2009 NFL Draft Prospect Scouting Report:
Marko Mitchell, WR, Nevada
Mitchell was an All State football and basketball player in high school. He played one season at Mesa Community College, AZ and then transferred to Nevada prior to the 2006 season (he was eligible for the 2006 campaign). That year he started seven of thirteen games, grabbing 39 passes for 493 yards (12.6 per catch) and four TD. He went on to start eight of twelve games in 2007, posting 47 catches for 1,033 yards (22 per) with eight TD. He also rushed for a 47 yards TD.
Has a big frame, but is slim and needs to add weight. Good speed for size (4.48). Good separation speed and technique. Will out leap defenders. Good balance. Big, strong set of hands. Very confident. Is very raw. Needs to improve his route running. Blocking leaves a lot to be desired. Not the most physical player out there. Could use more time in the weight room.

Mitchell is a big time prospect. He possesses the physical ability to excel at the next level. He is a big play WR; his route running and blocking needs work, but you can teach these traits. If he continues to mature, Mitchell could find himself at the upper echelon of the 2009 class of wide receivers.

HMM INTERESTING...

Posted by: Broman17 | April 26, 2009 7:09 PM | Report abuse

you idiots were likely saying the same bullcrap last year when we drafted chris horton in the 7th. we have good scouts! we always draft well! have some faith idiots

Posted by: amccabe3 | April 26, 2009 7:07 PM | Report abuse

Yup, sure was. The Skins draft last yr. (Horton was more likely an after thought) was crappy, or haven't you noticed? Thanks for the reminder, numnuts.

Posted by: ga8085 | April 26, 2009 7:10 PM | Report abuse

you idiots were likely saying the same bullcrap last year when we drafted chris horton in the 7th. we have good scouts! we always draft well! have some faith idiots

Posted by: amccabe3

Yeah, I'll tell you how dumb I was last year. I said Thomas, Kelly, Davis, Rinehart and Tryon would be busts!

Boy is MY face red.

Posted by: TheCork | April 26, 2009 7:10 PM | Report abuse

This is without a doubt the worst draft the Redskins have ever had. I challenge anybody to find a draft where they screwed up (overall, not just Health Schuler) worse than this.

No OL, no interior DL, a couple of LBs who will only see the field as special teams players, if that, a TE who may spend the year on IR, and a WR who can't run routes or catch passes.

Horrible draft, just horrible. Unless they get VERY lucky and a couple of free agent OL are actually good, this team's headed for 5-11 or 3-13.

Posted by: CJMARTIN04 | April 26, 2009 7:10 PM | Report abuse

Did Vinny and Dan watch the second half of the season? Where are O- Linemen in this draft? This was one of the biggest needs on this team. Do they have a clue?

Posted by: japark89 | April 26, 2009 7:10 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Vinny doesn't have season tickets and hasn't suffered watching a team that has a poor aging OL

Posted by: 3rings | April 26, 2009 7:11 PM | Report abuse

This is without a doubt the worst draft the Redskins have ever had. I challenge anybody to find a draft where they screwed up (overall, not just Health Schuler) worse than this.

Posted by: CJMartino4

Um, last year?

Posted by: TheCork | April 26, 2009 7:11 PM | Report abuse

do the skins have all of their 2010 picks?

Posted by: IHateJLC | April 26, 2009 7:11 PM | Report abuse

Periculum's BEAST draft recap, brought to you by SiX Flags, come swim with the Manatees at Six Flags new salt water pool. Some have been rescued after attempts to make them into offensive linemen for the Redskins.

Dallas Cowboys Draft Picks
Rd 3 - #5(69) Jason Williams (OLB) W Illinois
Rd 3 - #11(75) Robert Brewster (OT) Ball St
Rd 4 - #1(101) Stephen McGee (QB) Texas A&M
Rd 4 - #10(110) Victor Butler (OLB) Oregon St
Rd 4 - #20(120) Brandon Williams (DE) Texas Tech
Rd 5 - #7(143) DeAngelo Smith (CB) Cincy
Rd 5 - #30(166) Michael Hamlin (S) Clemson
Rd 5 - #36(172) David Buehler (K) USC
Rd 6 - #24(197) Stephen Hodge (OLB) TCU
Rd 6 - #35(208) John Phillips (TE) Virginia
Rd 7 - #18(227) Mike Mickens (CB) Cincy
Rd 7 - #20(229) Manuel Johnson (WR) Oklahoma

New York Giants Draft PIcks:
Rd 1 - #29(29) Hakeem Nicks (WR) UNC
Rd 2 - #13(45) Clint Sintim (OLB) Virginia
Rd 2 - #28(60) William Beatty (OT) UConn
Rd 3 - #21(85) Ramses Barden (WR) Cal Poly
Rd 3 - #36(100) Travis Beckum (TE) Wisconsin
Rd 4 - #29(129) Andre Brown (RB) NC State
Rd 5 - #15(151) Rhett Bomar (QB) Sam Houston
Rd 6 - #27(200) DeAndre Wright (CB) New Mexico
Rd 7 - #29(238) Stoney Woodson (CB) S Carolina

Philadelphia Eagles Draft Picks:
Rd 1 - #19(19) Jeremy Maclin (WR) Missouri
Rd 2 - #21(53) LeSean McCoy (RB) Pittsburgh
Rd 5 - #17(153) Cornelius Ingram (TE) Florida
Rd 5 - #21(157) Victor Harris (CB) Va Tech
Rd 5 - #23(159) Fenuki Tupou (OT) Oregon
Rd 6 - #21(194) Brandon Gibson (WR) Wash St
Rd 7 - #4(213) Paul Fanaika (OG) Arizona St
Rd 7 - #21(230) Moise Fokou (OLB) Maryland

Washington Redskins Dead Manatee Picks
Rd 1 - #13(13) Brian Orakpo (DE) Texas
Rd 3 - #16(80) Kevin Barnes (CB) Maryland
Rd 5 - #22(158) Cody Glenn (OLB) Nebraska
Rd 6 - #13(186) Robert Henson (ILB) TCU
Rd 7 - #12(221) Eddie Williams (FB) Idaho
Rd 7 - #34(243) Marko Mitchell (WR) Nevada

Posted by: periculum | April 26, 2009 7:12 PM | Report abuse

you idiots were likely saying the same bullcrap last year when we drafted chris horton in the 7th. we have good scouts! we always draft well! have some faith idiots

Posted by: amccabe3 | April 26, 2009 7:07 PM

DUDE...The skins went 1 for 10 last year. Terrible draft last year. If we knew that Horton was that good we would have taken him earlier. Orakpo and barnes will help but that is it. They got lucky w/ horton. They are competitive despite the inabilty of the front office. You Dope.

Posted by: jwcallahan91 | April 26, 2009 7:12 PM | Report abuse

Regardless of whether I think these are good players or not the impression I'm left with is we drafted several people no one else wanted. To me the picks are wasted if we could have signed them as free agents. The draft is about taking players other teams want before they can take them. Did we do that? I doubt it. Doesn't mean these guys won't be successful it just means the picks weren't used to their full potential.

Posted by: will_ga | April 26, 2009 7:12 PM | Report abuse

Soooo, we pick two wide receivers to end the draft. Beautiful.

In comparison:

Patriots: 2 OT’s and 1 OG
Titans: 1 OT and 1 OG
Steelers: 1 OG and 1 C
Eagles: 1 OT and 1 OG

Posted by: whughes1 | April 26, 2009 7:12 PM | Report abuse

I LOLed at this pick as I watched on ESPN. My God, what are these guys thinking? I love this team (and have since birth, 30 years) -- I hate Vinny/Danny.

Posted by: irebatt | April 26, 2009 7:12 PM | Report abuse

Look on the bright side.

The Swine Flu Pandemic may end up cancelling next season.

Posted by: TheCork | April 26, 2009 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, I'll tell you how dumb I was last year. I said Thomas, Kelly, Davis, Rinehart and Tryon would be busts!

Boy is MY face red.

Posted by: TheCork | April 26, 2009 7:10 PM |
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It should be, since A) They've only been in the league a year, and B) drafts are "always hit or miss, 50% is a decent percentage of success."*

* Bill Belichick

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | April 26, 2009 7:15 PM | Report abuse

You are forgetting: NY Giants 1 top 5 OT.
Cowboys 1 OT 3rd round.


Redskins NO OL in this draft. Cork at least last year they did make an attempt when they drafted Rhinehart.

Posted by: periculum | April 26, 2009 7:15 PM | Report abuse

How fat is Mike WIlliams?

He's SO fat, Kirstie Alley asked him out on a date.

Posted by: TheCork | April 26, 2009 7:15 PM | Report abuse

this is by far the worst draft I've seen from the skins in 30 years. Only made one arguably decent pick, Orakpo, who is a tweener at a position that a hall of fame tweener didn't produce at so who's to say that a light end/minorly eperienced LB from a pass happy conference will translate to an effective player in a run-first power conference in the NFL, but hey who knows. The rest of the draft? with opportunities to get several large offensive lineman or a speed back to compliment CP we take a corner that we hope may eventually be our 3rd corner (findable without wasting a 3rd rounder), two LBs that would have been available as UFA, a TE that has a bum knee that won't make the roster, and a WR that we probably could have signed off the street and that we didn't exactly need. Absolutely terrible draft, historically terrible....Even given the first two picks, Orakpo and a corner, if you add Duke Robinson, a center and Alex Boone late then maybe a LB lastly, things could be a little better off?!?!?!

Posted by: zjfr2 | April 26, 2009 7:16 PM | Report abuse

I'm hiring Rosenhaus...I want out of DC...

Posted by: p1funk | April 26, 2009 7:16 PM | Report abuse

i dont really like how the second day of the draft has gone either, but honestly i dont see how we could really find a starter at this stage. We are now completely set at CB and LB. Our OL is not good but i think that Orakpo was the obvious choice. We are now set for this year and can address the OL next year with our first round pick. I know we say that every year, but i think its our best option

Posted by: mardiros | April 26, 2009 7:16 PM | Report abuse

yes...its hard to figure these redundant choices...but we must remember they are highly paid professionals and are unlikely to do anything to insult their fan base, or even their starting quarterback. Maybe concerning the OL Williams has been on steroids the last few years and is solid muscle (like Bob Sapp). Apparently the front office took the old adage "best available athlete" too far. The only solution is for Obama to jump in...but he's a Bulls fan.

Posted by: mulezen | April 26, 2009 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Looks like they just drafted Malcolm Kelly's replacement.

And still... no help on the O-Line.

Welcome to another sub-par year for the Redskins.

Posted by: GiveMeTheBall | April 26, 2009 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Well I doubt any OL taken in the 5th round would have been much of an upgrade over any veteran FA still available, so I haven't completely lost it yet. Still these last four picks make me think Vinny and Danny have decided to torture Redskin fans because we keep on pointing out how clueless they are.

Only picking players with serious injury issues. Picking multiple tweeners who might struggle to fit into a position in the NFL. Even Orakpo, as talented as he is may not be strong enough at the point to play DE (in our scheme) and too stiff to play SLB.

The coup de grace was the two receivers with the last two picks. Unless Marko turns out to be the second coming of Marques Colston, this pick can only be considered as Vinny giving everyone the finger.

Posted by: adsmanager | April 26, 2009 7:16 PM | Report abuse

JLC and the rest of these sportswriters better be asking the tough questions of Cerrato, Zorn and Snyder (if he ever does another interview). This draft looks to have yielded one to two legitimate contributors

Posted by: hehateme | April 26, 2009 7:17 PM | Report abuse

This is without a doubt the worst draft the Redskins have ever had. I challenge anybody to find a draft where they screwed up (overall, not just Health Schuler) worse than this.

Posted by: CJMartino4

Um, last year?

Posted by: TheCork | April 26, 2009 7:11 PM

Give me one more year on that and then I'll agree. I think Kelly's a bust but there's a chance the other two guys will pan out, and Horton has panned out nicely, so far.

I really think there's a decent chance only two guys from this entire draft ever see the field, Orakpo and the CB from Maryland. Unless Danny makes Vinny look good by making Zorn keep all the draft picks, I think the LBs could be looking for work before camp is over.

Posted by: CJMARTIN04 | April 26, 2009 7:17 PM | Report abuse

You are forgetting: NY Giants 1 top 5 OT.
Cowboys 1 OT 3rd round.


Redskins NO OL in this draft. Cork at least last year they did make an attempt when they drafted Rhinehart.

Posted by: periculum | April 26, 2009 7:15 PM | Report abuse


And let's not forget that the Eagles signed Andrews and Peters before the draft...

Posted by: p1funk | April 26, 2009 7:18 PM | Report abuse

t should be, since A) They've only been in the league a year, and B) drafts are "always hit or miss, 50% is a decent percentage of success."*

* Bill Belichick

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | April 26, 2009

And Bellechick, just to be on the safe side, would have drafted six OL just to be sure that 3 made it. Right? And how many attempts did the Redskins try this year, a year that was deep in OT's? ZERO.

Posted by: periculum | April 26, 2009 7:18 PM | Report abuse

At a glance.
Pick 1: A-
Pick 2: C+
Pick 3: D+
Pick 4: C-
Pick 5: F (if he can get healthy maybe a D)
Pick 6: D
GPA: 1.69

Posted by: alex35332 | April 26, 2009 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Yep, just the Washington Duncecaps missed the boat again ... they seem to have Alzheimers at Redskins Park. They keep wandering off in the dark and getting lost.

Posted by: periculum | April 26, 2009 7:19 PM | Report abuse

I feel ok about the Skins draft, they hit most of the key areas. Orakpo was nice the way it played out. I like the corner from Maryland, appears to be a hitter AND have some ball Skills.

Yeah they did ignore OL again. But I like that they at least stuck to the grading system, which did produce horton, golston, montgomery, etc. in years past. If we are lucky one of these LB's will pan out. I don;t know about the TE and WR story. Maybe they have a plan to get the lineman cut by Philly, is he still around, that mean SOB Runyan. If we could get him Ala Pete Kendall, that would be great.

I hope with the new punter and all the speedy LB's we have improved special teams this year. If you take ARE out of PR duties maybe we score a few more times on special teams.

Maybe they have another Stephon Heyer OL player they have an eye on. I think if we had our #2 and #4, we could have drafted OL, but the example of Rhinehart is...if there is not a decent guy there, you don;t waste the roster and cap money$$.

I will feel okay until JC gets dumped four times straight in the opener, like last year.

Posted by: DownTownClown | April 26, 2009 7:20 PM | Report abuse

Before last years draft if you were to ask what our biggest needs were you would say WRs that can stretch the field, a big time Pass Rushing DE, and a solid OL that could protect JC. Maybe they have a three year plan to fill those holes. We may have another 8-8 year but after next years draft we might have little to complain about. I'm suprised they took offensive players at all, they should've taken Ellerbe out of Georgia. With Orakpo, our Defense is gonna be elite. You can't build an empire in two days.

Posted by: hokiesmokie | April 26, 2009 7:20 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, I'll tell you how dumb I was last year. I said Thomas, Kelly, Davis, Rinehart and Tryon would be busts!

Boy is MY face red.

Posted by: TheCork | April 26, 2009 7:10 PM |
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It should be, since A) They've only been in the league a year, and B) drafts are "always hit or miss, 50% is a decent percentage of success."*

* Bill Belichick

Posted by: MrRedskin21 |

Okay, fair enough. I'm man enough to admit I could be wrong. i suggest, however, that you look at the results of the Redskin draft since, say, 2004.

And, if the Redskins FO has faith the three receivers they picked in the second round last year will develop, why did they pick a TE and a WR THIS year when they have other, more pressing needs? And the Barnes pick doesn't show a lot of faith in Tryon.

Also, I think Mr. Belichick was referring to when HE makes the selections, not Vinny and The Dan.

Posted by: TheCork | April 26, 2009 7:21 PM | Report abuse

"JLC and the rest of these sportswriters better be asking the tough questions of Cerrato, Zorn and Snyder (if he ever does another interview). This draft looks to have yielded one to two legitimate contributors"

I have no doubt they'll ask them, but then we get the answer from Zorn that they really like those guys and were high on them, etc.

It's going to take a columnist to really rip on the Skins for this, a sportswriter can only do so much, especially when he's being lied to by Zorn and Vinny. Snyder won't do any more interviews because he's finally realized he comes off as an arrogant boob.

Posted by: CJMARTIN04 | April 26, 2009 7:21 PM | Report abuse

How fat is Mike WIlliams?

He's so fat his favorite ice cream is rocky road with caramel lipitor clusters.

Posted by: will_ga | April 26, 2009 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Didn't the Redskins sweep the Eagles last season?

Well, with Philly drafting two OL, they're sure to sweep the Redskins this year, proving that the Draft Day Sages of RI weren't born yesterday.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | April 26, 2009 7:23 PM | Report abuse

Cadogan and Parrish may still be there ... hopefully some of the undrafted FA's will yield results. I wouldn't bet on it.

Posted by: periculum | April 26, 2009 7:25 PM | Report abuse

So are they planning onntrading Cooley for an OL?

Posted by: vegasskinsfan | April 26, 2009 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Here are players the Redskins could have drafted in today's picks that would have made them a much better team as addressed all their needs:

KR/CB Michael Ray Garvin (5-8, 174) created a buzz by running the fastest 40 time (4.24) so far this draft season. Garvin is a world-class sprinter and possesses amazing top-end speed as a kick returner. This type of speed is rare, and it wouldn’t surprise me to see his name come off the board toward the end of the draft as a KR/PR specialist. Florida State

Herman Johnson (OT)
Height: 6'7"
Weight: 364
College: LSU
Conference: SEC

Antoine Caldwell (OG)
Height: 6'3"
Weight: 309
College: Alabama
Conference: SEC

Michael Johnson (DE)
Height: 6'7"
Weight: 266
College: Georgia Tech
Conference: ACC

Shonn Greene (RB)
Height: 5'11"
Weight: 227
College: Iowa
Conference: Big 10

Greg Toler (CB)
Height: 5'11"
Weight: 191
College: St Pauls
Conference: Central

Kraig Urbik (OT)
Height: 6'5"
Weight: 328
College: Wisconsin
Conference: Big 10

Posted by: KurtShanaman | April 26, 2009 7:26 PM | Report abuse

Cork, I agree their drafts have been terrible, and picking a WR with the last pick is bizarre (although I'm not sure an OL chosen there is really any better).

What they need to do is stop giving away picks, and enter a draft (one of these years) with all their picks, and then trade down to the 2nd round.

The Patriots had picks falling out of their ears, and if Belichick's formula is correct - that about half of the picks pan out - then the more the Redskins have, the greater the odds that some will become solid starters or even studs.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | April 26, 2009 7:26 PM | Report abuse

Well, there went Canfield to Arizona.

Posted by: CJMARTIN04 | April 26, 2009 7:27 PM | Report abuse

I was really optimistic going into the 2nd day of the draft. I don't love the 3rd round pick but can live with it. The rest of the draft all Snyderatto did was serve us all a turd sandwich. Thanks jerkoffs.

Posted by: Posse81_83_84 | April 26, 2009 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Mitchell is your new return man, replacing ARE. He ran a 4.43 in the combine.

Posted by: Alan4 | April 26, 2009 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Just out of curiosity, thought I’d see how our unheralded 7th rounder WR – basically a year out of JC – fared at the combine vs some of the other tall receivers who were picked well before him:

40 Yard Dash: At 4.49, he was faster than Hakeem Nicks, Kenny Britt, Ramses Barden, Brian Robiskie, and Mohammed Massequoi. But now I hear he pulled up, so I don't know where NFL.com got that time...

Vertical: 32 inches, which is quite a bit less than the springy Nicks (36) or Brian Robiskie (37.5). Still, he’s taller than those other guys – second to big Ramses Barden of the Giants. The measurement geeks say he has long arms and ridiculously large palms – which, unless they’re made of stone, should help him catch.

Bench Press: Apparently, Mitchell is weak as a kitten. He only did 9 reps, compared to Barden’s 17 and Britt at 23. People like Nicks apparently don’t lift at combines, it’s against union rules or something.

In all those other gimmicky Jim Zorn-style drills – the 3 cone, the 20 yard shuttle, the fifty-two kilometer double whirligig hop – he scores right about average for a big guy. In other words, not much different than players take several rounds earlier.

Well, that gives us some idea of how good Mitchell might be if the NFL ever switches to flag football in shorts with stop watches. Maybe he can jump and catch the ball in the end zone – somebody has to if Jason Campbell is to have a chance at throwing some TD passes this coming season.

Posted by: Samson151 | April 26, 2009 7:32 PM | Report abuse

"the Patriots had picks falling out of their ears, and if Belichick's formula is correct - that about half of the picks pan out - then the more the Redskins have, the greater the odds that some will become solid starters or even studs."

That only works if you have intelligent individuals doing the talent evaluation and drafting, and the Redskins don't.

The Skins *passed* on at least four or five available OL that they could have gotten to bolster depth. Instead they drafted marginal LBs who, according to every draft projection out there, would have more than likely been there on the free agent wire after the draft. Then they get a TE who's going to possibly spend the year on IR (or at least sit out a good portion of the year and take up a roster spot) and a WR with hands of stone who doesn't run good routes.

The amount of the picks doesn't matter, the Skins could have 50 picks and they'd screw them up. They could have had a decent draft, the players were there for them to get, they just drafted players nobody else wanted.

Posted by: CJMARTIN04 | April 26, 2009 7:33 PM | Report abuse

Didn't the Redskins sweep the Eagles last season?
Well, with Philly drafting two OL, they're sure to sweep the Redskins this year, proving that the Draft Day Sages of RI weren't born yesterday.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | April 26, 2009

Clearly you must be watching the new upstart UFL. You can't possibly be watching the NFL or the Redskins? Philadelphia had serious issues at that two tackle positions last year. Age and less than adequate performance: the result: they draft 2 OL in this draft they use picks to get Peters from the Bills. They now have the Andrews brothers as well. Problem solved.

Now in the case of the Redskins with no backup center. No true starting RT. Serious problems with age and debilitating injury up and down the line. How was that addressed? Do you really believe that Bellicheck would leave the status quo?

Posted by: periculum | April 26, 2009 7:33 PM | Report abuse

when does undrafted free agent signing start?

Posted by: skinsst21 | April 26, 2009 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Based on what I've seen of drafts by Belichick and others gurus with superior records, I'll be happy if two years from now, we've got one solid starter and one solid contributor out of these five picks.

Posted by: Samson151 | April 26, 2009 7:35 PM | Report abuse

If Mitchell returns punts instead of ARE, that works for me.

I am still hoping they'll let DeAngelo Hall handle punts.

ANYONE but ARE.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | April 26, 2009 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Front office is full of morons. Plain and simple. I think fans of a team should be able to cast a vote of no confidence against loser owners who know absolutely nothing about football.

Posted by: CDon | April 26, 2009 7:36 PM | Report abuse

TE and WR? I blame Jasno. Clearly, it's his fault.

** Beer portion of post **
Chimay Blue Grand Reserve. A good afternoon. Very good indeed. By whcih I mean, GO CAPS!
** End Beer**

Posted by: 4-12 | April 26, 2009 7:37 PM | Report abuse

Can anyone please tell me how we went into this draft knowing that our biggest needs were OL & DL and only used 1 of 6 picks to address this???????? For years we can't consistently pressure the opposing team's QB or adequately protect our own, yet this has been constantly ignored and at no time worse than on day 2 of this draft!! What the hell are Danny Boy & Vinny thinking??? Jack Kent Cooke has got to be rolling over seeing what this dynamic duo has done to his beloved Skins!!

Posted by: Original_Cat | April 26, 2009 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Frustrating day 2..Skins need to develop a Yankees scouting network..Barnes is ok, but all the rest are tossups or blind-gropings..Hail Skins!! peaceout

Posted by: frak | April 26, 2009 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Front office is full of morons. Plain and simple. I think fans of a team should be able to cast a vote of no confidence against loser owners who know absolutely nothing about football.

Posted by: CDon | April 26, 2009 7:36 PM |
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Bill Bidwill is one of the worst owners in the league.

But at the end of the day, players and coaches account W's and L's, and the Cardinals finally overcame Bidwill's creepy ineptitude and played in a Super Bowl.

Don't give up just yet.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | April 26, 2009 7:40 PM | Report abuse

when does undrafted free agent signing start?

Posted by: skinsst21 | April 26, 2009 7:35 PM |

Right now. The higher rated undrafted players agents are making and receiving calls right now. The Skins could have guys signed within the next few hours.

I doubt we're going to get Cadogan or another OL though. That would be intelligent, and this FO group doesn't do intelligent.

Posted by: CJMARTIN04 | April 26, 2009 7:41 PM | Report abuse

AZ the superbowl runner up drafted a guard and a center guard in the fifth and seventh rounds.

Posted by: periculum | April 26, 2009 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Wow. I didn't want to say anything until we finished our draft:

I'm really disappointed that we did not draft 1 OL.

Hate to say it, but I don't see Randy Thomas lasting an entire season and Casey Rabach is a liability at C.

I say we wait a little on Stephen Heyer and Rinehart. They deserve one or two more seasons before we judge them.

Posted by: Vicc | April 26, 2009 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Danny saw Pitts. win the SB with a #1 D and an average O. So now that's what he's trying to do. Next years SB winner will have a great O and no D, so he'll trade all our great defenders for offensive stars. Someday he'll realize that every team has their own identity and that the common denominator is a strong, respected owner and GM.

Posted by: vegasskinsfan | April 26, 2009 7:46 PM | Report abuse


Ok it time for an up raising in the Redskin nation .It is time to find enough wapum to get the Danny to take a hike or washington will become of all thing fund of the caps !

Put a fork in this team they are so done after this that they should not play the season

Posted by: joevick | April 26, 2009 7:47 PM | Report abuse

WHoever said we are set at the other positions so now we can use our first round pick next year to get am OL is delusional. We will play just well enough this year to have a draft pick just low enough that we have to trade picks to move up and take Colt Mckoy, Tim Tebow, or Sam Bradford. IF it is an uncapped year we will buy some OL, if not, we will draft some nobodies late and get our new crown jewel QB killed. The time to draft OL was in the 5th and 6th round of this year. When we drafted in the 5th there was top 5 talent at each OL position still on the board. WHen we drafted in the 6th there was still top 10 talent at Center and Guard. This was horrible. We drafted three guys that nobody else had on their board. Even if they have some secret plan to get an OL with undrafted FA like Heyer, or trade or get one after June 1st cuts, wasting the picks on these stiffs was just idiotic. I would have been happier if we drafted a kicker in the 7th than the stiffs we drafted. I defend this front office all the time, but this was just unbelievably horrible. If they don't know what they are doing why not just go to ESPN and see who they have rated high and take a chance that way instead of drafing a LB that has only played 7 games there in his life! Unbeleivable. We used to at least hope we would win based on FA and the draft. I need a winter hobby because this team is going to be awfully painful to watch. Oh yeah and our starting LT is already hurt along with our perpetual DL baby Kelly. Great

Posted by: dbrine1261 | April 26, 2009 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Worst draft ever witnessed in my life. Every team in the East got better but us. I'm not sold on Orakpo. They reached on another corner like last year and the rest of the picks don't even make the team. 6 players and only 2 make the team. Unless they keep a few to make Vinny look good like they did Brooks last year. I'm watching Zorn right now and he's a horrible liar, he's trying his best to cover for his front office drafting horrible players.

Posted by: PEACE8 | April 26, 2009 7:51 PM | Report abuse

not a single O lineman. F'ing wonderful. I hope JC likes the type of grass they have at FedEx cause he is going to be lying on it ALOT!
No backup center. Two old tackles. Two old guards. 1 Ok backup in Hoyer. I good guard in Dockery. 3 backups that have never played and a new guy no one knows about. Wow! does that ever inspire confidence.

Posted by: dbeins | April 26, 2009 7:54 PM | Report abuse

This guy Williams is a Cooley clone.Seems like Zach Follett was way more productive in a tougher conference than the LB's we took.WTF

Posted by: mark65 | April 26, 2009 7:56 PM | Report abuse

This guy Williams is a Cooley clone.Seems like Zach Follett was way more productive in a tougher conference than the LB's we took.WTF

Posted by: mark65 | April 26, 2009 7:56 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins will not win a division game next year. FO is a joke. Let's hope the NFL creates a new divison, Washington,Oakland,Detroit, St.louis

Posted by: skinsflorida | April 26, 2009 8:00 PM | Report abuse

Not sure if this was mentioned. I didn't read everyone's posts. The Pats had 12 draft picks and picked 6 linemen. 3 OL and 3 DL. The Skins by contrast had 6 picks and drafted 1 lineman. I just switched teams. The Skins biggest need going into the draft was OL and they did not draft one. They either are trying to sabotage Zorn and Campbell in order to pave they way for Shanahan or they are just incompetent.

Either way I'm done. Let me know when Snyder and Vinnie are gone. I'll reconsider.


They needed to help the Offense this off season and all they did was get a guard and two injured guys in the late rounds of the draft who will never see the field next season. That was the best they could do. Really? I don't know whether to laugh or cry.


Posted by: renhoekk2 | April 26, 2009 8:01 PM | Report abuse

Marko Mitchell looks like he has a big chest. Maybe that is the big frame mentioned. Rib cage... but yah his chest does look big. Maybe he trained up for the 9 reps at 225 he did. No I think it is just that his arms and legs are stick thin. Come on, 9 reps? 50/50 any H.S. football player can do the same.

Too bad someone mentioned how bad he was in the third world all-star game he played. I had hopes for a TD before a bone crushing hit is given literal meaning to his Skins tour.

Posted by: chavez66 | April 26, 2009 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Lot of hyperbole here. Can't believe how much stock people are putting in picks made in rounds 5, 6 and 7. At best maybe 20% (more likely 10%) of guys taken in these rounds will start at any point in this year.

During the meaningful part of the draft, the Skins got the best defensive player on the board in round 1, and got an athletic corner who by all accounts looks to be better than the average 3rd rounder. That should be where most of our focus is directed. Crying about these 5th through 7th rounders is like JLC obsessing over Leigh Torrance getting cut. Total overkill.


Posted by: LandryLevel | April 26, 2009 8:09 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins will go nowhere while the Redskins fans remain so NEGATIVE and STEUPID!

No wonder a perennial venum spewing evil semi-journalist (lacanfora) is covering the Redskins for the city newspaper.

Having Jason La Canfora cover the Redskins is like asking a child-molester to babysit your child!!

This bozo has never written anything positive about the Redskins as far as I remember. According to JLC, Redskins always sign the wrong player, trade the wrong player and draft the wrong player. Although the Redskins have had their share of wrong choices, I strongly believe that the worst selection for this town has been selecting a moronn (JLC) covering their news!

Posted by: peaceful2008 | April 26, 2009 8:10 PM | Report abuse

"JLC and the rest of these sportswriters better be asking the tough questions of Cerrato, Zorn and Snyder (if he ever does another interview). This draft looks to have yielded one to two legitimate contributors"

I have no doubt they'll ask them, but then we get the answer from Zorn that they really like those guys and were high on them, etc.

It's going to take a columnist to really rip on the Skins for this, a sportswriter can only do so much, especially when he's being lied to by Zorn and Vinny. Snyder won't do any more interviews because he's finally realized he comes off as an arrogant boob.

Posted by: CJMARTIN04 | April 26, 2009 7:21 PM

Remember the Tom Friend article from 2006?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?id=2672668

This article was birthed from an unnamed source. Well, I wonder why JLC or one of these other reporters that's around the team on an everyday basis can't get that sort of access, and bring the inner workings of the decision making to light.

Posted by: hehateme | April 26, 2009 8:11 PM | Report abuse

O.K. Let me get this straight???

1999 - Champ Bailey - Pro Bowler for whom they traded for Clinton Portis - Pro Bowler
2000 - Chris Samuels - Pro Bowler
2000 - Lavar Arrington - Pro Bowler
2001 - Rod Gardner - Some good years - Not great but not a bust
2002 - Patrick Ramsey - Bust
2003 - No first rounder
2004 - Sean Taylor - Pro Bowler
2005 - Carlos Rogers - Starter, Not great but not a bust when healthy
2005 - Jason Campbell - Starter, may be good if given support and a chance
2006 - No first rounder
2007 - LaRon Landry - Future Pro Bowler
2008 - No first rounder
2009 - Brian Orakpo - ?????

Good Players found in the "crapshoot" that is the NFL Draft after round 1

-John Jansen - Round 2
-Fred Smoot - Round 2
-Rock Cartwright - Round 7
-Ladell Betts - Round 2
-Derrick Dockery - Round 3
-Chris Cooley - Round 3
-Kedric Golston - Round 6
-Reed Doughty - Round 6
-Anthony Montgomery - Round 5
-H.B. Blades - Round 6
-Stephon Hyer - Undrafted
-Chris Horton - Round 7

Conclusion: No team is going to nail every pick! If you can emerge each year from the draft having made your team better in any regard then you are doing your job as a FO. The Redskin FO has done this the last 10 years CONSISTENTLY! I am not going to prop myself up on my armchair and begin to question their decisions. I am a 35 year fan and have coached H.S. football for 20 and played at all levels except for the pros. Even with the football knowledge I think I possess, what gives me the right to question any NFL executive decision. All of the "experts" said they needed DL, OL, LB, CB and WR. Well. . .last time I checked the draft board, they addressed all of these except for one. . .yes, yes, yes, OL is a very important one, but 4 outa 5 ain't bad and let's not forget, they did bring Dockery back and they added Williams right before the draft. Which may be a bust, but let's see. . .a 6th or 7th round offensive lineman versus a former first round pick who has actually played in the NFL. . .HMMMM??? Like I said, giant crapshoot all the way around, but I think I will go with the choices of informed individuals who by evidence have gotten it right more often than not versus the knee-jerk reactions of fans like myself who have no business having an opinion other than to scream your lungs out for the skins and bleed burgandy and gold (or black if you're Jim Zorn, HA). . .relax skins nation, it's just a game.

Posted by: mjames1 | April 26, 2009 8:17 PM | Report abuse

NFC East draft analysis
April 26, 2009 7:18 PM
Posted by ESPN.com's Matt Mosley

NFC East Draft Picks
• Dallas Cowboys
• New York Giants
• Philadelphia Eagles
• Washington Redskins
NEW YORK -- At one point Friday, it sounded like the Eagles and Giants were once again hot and heavy for Cardinals wide receiver Anquan Boldin. But that story flickered out quickly and both teams focused on building through the draft. On Day 1, it was only a three-team division. The Cowboys had the No. 51 pick, but things moved too quickly for them and they were frustrated when center Max Unger came off the board several spots ahead of their pick.

Posted by: periculum | April 26, 2009 8:21 PM | Report abuse

How can anybody defend this draft. They improved the 4th best defense this off season. Was that really necessary? C'mon people. Ya they got really good defensive players this off season. So MAYBE they will move from 4th to three or two. Does anybody really think that is going to make them a real playoff threat next season if JC doesn't have better blocking or someone other than Cooley to throw to? In case no one read JLC's other post MK12 just had another knee operation. He can't be counted on to play and looks like another wasted draft pick. Maybe that's why no one else drafted him and he fell into the 50's last year. But of course Danny and Vinny think they are smarter than everyone else.

Posted by: renhoekk2 | April 26, 2009 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Conclusion: No team is going to nail every pick! If you can emerge each year from the draft having made your team better in any regard then you are doing your job as a FO. The Redskin FO has done this the last 10 years CONSISTENTLY! I am not going to prop myself up on my armchair and begin to question their decisions. I am a 35 year fan and have coached H.S. football for 20 and played at all levels except for the pros. Even with the football knowledge I think I possess, what gives me the right to question any NFL executive decision. All of the "experts" said they needed DL, OL, LB, CB and WR. Well. . .last time I checked the draft board, they addressed all of these except for one. . .yes, yes, yes, OL is a very important one, but 4 outa 5 ain't bad and let's not forget, they did bring Dockery back and they added Williams right before the draft. Which may be a bust, but let's see. . .a 6th or 7th round offensive lineman versus a former first round pick who has actually played in the NFL. . .HMMMM??? Like I said, giant crapshoot all the way around, but I think I will go with the choices of informed individuals who by evidence have gotten it right more often than not versus the knee-jerk reactions of fans like myself who have no business having an opinion other than to scream your lungs out for the skins and bleed burgandy and gold (or black if you're Jim Zorn, HA). . .relax skins nation, it's just a game.

Posted by: mjames1

Great points. Couldn't agree more.

Posted by: LandryLevel | April 26, 2009 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Dear mjames1 (above post)

Thank you for your intelligent and balanced comment. This board is littered with arm-chair losers who will question any move no matter what. I agree that the Redskins DID answer OL pre-draft.

Let us hope that the drafted players reach their potential and contribute.

(as an aside, just noted that all the sportwriting world is now giving kudos to Jets for trading up and picking Sanchez-the QB of future. Had the Redskins done that, these same bozos would have called the move stupid and fantasy football by Snyder.

LOVE the Redskins, Hate many many of the Fans. Hate hate JLC

Posted by: peaceful2008 | April 26, 2009 8:28 PM | Report abuse

What they need to do is stop giving away picks, and enter a draft (one of these years) with all their picks, and then trade down to the 2nd round.

The Patriots had picks falling out of their ears, and if Belichick's formula is correct - that about half of the picks pan out - then the more the Redskins have, the greater the odds that some will become solid starters or even studs.

Posted by: MrRedskin21


I absolutely agree with keeping the picks. BUT, I don't think the "infinite number of monkeys on an infinite numher of typewriters" theory works with drafting.

To take last year for instance, the odds were that at least ONE of the three receivers picked in the second round would have worked out last year.

Posted by: TheCork | April 26, 2009 8:35 PM | Report abuse

renhoekk:"They improved the 4th best defense this off season. Was that really necessary? C'mon people. Ya they got really good defensive players this off season."

Not to say we didn't have other needs, but I'm not at all distressed at the decision to beef up on defense. The Skins have got some real holes that could show up this next season. Starting with the pass rush and extending to the other linebackers and the nickel and dime defensive packages.

I don't know if their choices at LB were any good, but it suggests that the team (meaning Blache) isn't at all happy or confident they can carry over their performance another year without some help.
It suggests the Skins are worried about injuries and that the unit is thinner that we think. Makes me wonder if they're not looking at Leroy Hill now that Seattle has pulled his ticket. Don't know if he's a good fit, but he's certainly a good player.

It also suggests JT Tryon isn't the player they hoped he was.

So no excuses for neglecting the offense, but the defense needs attention, too. And ultimately, it's the defense that will take us back to the playoffs, if we get there.

Posted by: Samson151 | April 26, 2009 8:41 PM | Report abuse

No it is not enough to just improve you team in any matter and claim victory in the draft. So you are saying if they hit on 1 out of 7 picks that is enough. Good luck with that logic. There is a reason some teams (Colts, Steelers, Pats, Ravens) consistantly win 10+ games and the Skins struggle to win 7 or 8 every year. There is right way and a wrong way to run a football team and anyone who thinks the Danny and Vinny are doing it right needs to be committed. And yes as long as I am forking over my money for tickets and merchandise I have a right to complain and question their judgment.

Posted by: renhoekk2 | April 26, 2009 8:47 PM | Report abuse

This bozo has never written anything positive about the Redskins as far as I remember. According to JLC, Redskins always sign the wrong player, trade the wrong player and draft the wrong player. Although the Redskins have had their share of wrong choices, I strongly believe that the worst selection for this town has been selecting a moronn (JLC) covering their news!

Posted by: peaceful2008

Does JLC come over to your website and write hateful things about you?

Oh right, he's never heard of you.

But I'm sure, if he had, he'd be delighted to know you felt comfortable dropping by to vent.

Have a nice day. And keep thinking good positive thoughts about the Redskins, because that's all it takes to get them a Superbowl. Just ask Vinny and Dan.

Posted by: TheCork | April 26, 2009 8:49 PM | Report abuse

they gave us what we wanted, a pass rusher; then they had their looney tune times

Posted by: aypub | April 26, 2009 9:01 PM | Report abuse

missouri QB chase daniel is going to sign with the redskins.you heard it here first.

Posted by: mark65 | April 26, 2009 9:04 PM | Report abuse


No it is not enough to just improve you team in any matter and claim victory in the draft. So you are saying if they hit on 1 out of 7 picks that is enough. Good luck with that logic. There is a reason some teams (Colts, Steelers, Pats, Ravens) consistantly win 10+ games and the Skins struggle to win 7 or 8 every year. There is right way and a wrong way to run a football team and anyone who thinks the Danny and Vinny are doing it right needs to be committed. And yes as long as I am forking over my money for tickets and merchandise I have a right to complain and question their judgment.

Posted by: renhoekk2
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Lets take a look at the Steelers. . .for instance. . .

1999 - Troy Edwards - ???
2000 - Plaxico Burress - Pro Bowler
2001 - Casey Hampton - Situational Starter-Not bad
2002 - Kendall Simmons - Hurt Lately, but good lineman
2003 - Troy Polamalu - Pro Bowler
2004 - Ben Rothlisberger - Pro Bowler
2005 - Heath Miller - Average
2006 - Santonio Holmes - Average
2007 - Lawrence Timmons - Special Teamer
2008 - Rashard Mendenhall - ??? Big Maybe
2009 - Evander Hood - ????

Good Players from Later Rounds Crapshoot

Joey Porter - 3rd Rounder
Larry Foote - 4th Rounder
Antwaan Randle El - 2nd Rounder
Max Starks - 3rd Rounder
Chris Kemoeatu - 6th Rounder
LaMarr Woodley - 2nd Rounder

What's the point? You gotta do better than that. If you look at the Colts and the rest. . .same deal.

Yes. . .you have every right as an American Skins fan to protest to your heart's content. . . but at the end of the day, I am going to have more fun screaming my lungs out in support rather than "rotting" in what-ifs and maybes. Once again, enjoy the game for what it is. GO SKINS! Not go FO or Snyder or Vinny. . .GO SKINS!

Posted by: mjames1 | April 26, 2009 9:37 PM | Report abuse

I have a feeling many teams will regret not drafting percy harvin,all you have to do is get the ball in his hands and you have instant offense.Much like his new teammate Adrian Peterson.I predict Vikings vs.Falcons in NFC championship 09'.

Posted by: mark65 | April 26, 2009 10:09 PM | Report abuse

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