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Smith Decision Tomorrow

From Jason Reid: Just got off the phone again with Tennessee Titans assistant head coach/offense Sherman Smith, who said he will inform the Redskins whether he will accept the offensive coordinator position tomorrow. Smith had planned to inform new head coach Jim Zorn today but was unable to meet with Titans Coach Jeff Fisher. Smith promised Fisher he would speak with him before giving Zorn his decision.
"I'm really excited about the opportunity Z-man has offered to me and I think it could be great," Smith said. "But I have to follow the process. I have been with this man [Fisher] for 13 years and I owe him that much."


By Emilio Garcia-Ruiz  |  February 14, 2008; 2:54 PM ET
 
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With this kind of decisiveness, what kind of game plan can we expect from Smith?

Posted by: tafka | February 14, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Hot day on RI.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | February 14, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Sound like Les Juex son Fait.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | February 14, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Smith if you come here "Save the dress" so they can't do you wrong on the way out.

Believe me, Vinny will need to put the blame on someone else.

I hate me some DANBOTs.

Posted by: mul | February 14, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

If he got stuck in traffic for 3 hours in northern Virginia Tuesday night like I did, he ain't coming.

Posted by: rb-freedom-for-all | February 14, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

...My white hot rage came back for a moment but then I got in touch with my inner Zorn....

Posted by: mul | February 14, 2008 12:36 AM

Worth a repost! LOL.

Posted by: Alan4 | February 14, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Smith must have a collaborative style.

He was probably ready to accept at dinner (Z-man, you had me at Tossed Salad), but had to discuss it with the family and get the HC blessing.

(so it may not be as indecisive as it sounds)

Posted by: _Stumped_ | February 14, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

I'm starting to hate the word "process." In fact, if I read or hear that word again, I'm going to literally throw up.

Posted by: novus_0 | February 14, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

tafka I was thinking the same thing. How's he gonna operate under the play clock?


"The Patriots are raising ticket prices, with increases ranging from 10 percent to 51 percent"

From PFT

Does anyone else think this doesn't bode well for us? While not being able to keep up with Kraft on the field, Danny is rarely outdone in the Revenue Category

Posted by: Skinz | February 14, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Then again, he could be holding out for the Tennessee Ham Sandwich.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | February 14, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

BONG!

Posted by: bigmurf08 | February 14, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Process

Posted by: _Stumped_ | February 14, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

"I'm starting to hate the word "process." In fact, if I read or hear that word again, I'm going to literally throw up."

Posted by: novus_0 | February 14, 2008 03:03 PM

Agreed. The word 'process' used in the context of the Skins needs to be replaced with a word that has more positive connotations. How about 'subprime'?

Posted by: dcsween | February 14, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

z-man ??? are u serious ???

Posted by: cej75024 | February 14, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Smith seems to me as a person to have a right-hand man. Loyal almost to a fault.

Posted by: marlonjohn | February 14, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

mul, I'll give you credit, you're not afraid to trot out the same tired, non-sensical, garbage, day, after day.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 14, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Z-Man!!!

Posted by: Allan2 | February 14, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

HIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: leevi98 | February 14, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

PROCESS PROCESS PROCESS PROCESS PROCESS PROCESS PROCESS PROPROCESS PPROCESS ROCESS CESS PROCESS PROCESS

Posted by: leevi98 | February 14, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone else think this doesn't bode well for us? While not being able to keep up with Kraft on the field, Danny is rarely outdone in the Revenue Category

Skinz, some only see what they want to see. Don't let actual facts get in the way of your passing judgement.

From the Times:

Note -- The Redskins announced that ticket prices won't increase in 2008. They have gone up just once since 2000.


Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 14, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

PROCESS PROCESS PROCESS PROCESS PROCESS PROCESS PROCESS PROPROCESS PPROCESS ROCESS CESS PROCESS PROCESS

Posted by: leevi98 | February 14, 2008 03:12 PM

Good Hit??

Posted by: kerzon417 | February 14, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Darn you and your facts Greg, leave me to my speculation....

Posted by: Skinz | February 14, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

No Increase In Ticket Prices For '08 Season
February 13, 2008

General admission ticket prices for Washington Redskins games will remain unchanged for the 2008 season, the team announced Wednesday.

We work hard to minimize ticket increases, and we've been able to maintain the current level for yet another year," said Mitch Gershman, Redskins Chief Operating Officer. "The stability of pricing and the more than 200,000 names on our wait list for season tickets are testament to the continued support of our tremendous fan base, and we thank them."

Since 1999, the team has increased ticket prices only twice (2000 and 2006), a rarity among U.S. sports franchises. General admission tickets currently range in price from $29 to $99.

The team's season tickets have been sold out since the mid-1960s

Posted by: youcrew | February 14, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

mul, I'll give you credit, you're not afraid to trot out the same tired, non-sensical, garbage, day, after day.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 14, 2008 03:07 PM

I'm (insertnamehere). People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I enjoy ice cream and a nice pair of slacks. Years later, a doctor will tell me I have an I.Q. of 48 and that I am considered mentally retarded.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 14, 2008 12:03 PM

Nice.

Posted by: tafka | February 14, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

In the dizzy&dizzying world of our disfunctional front office, has anybody stopped to note the "production" of the Titans with Smith's input last season? nearly 100 pts less than their divisional rivals Jacksonville, 80 pts less that Houston and a mere 30 or so pts above those twin juggernauts, the Jets and Miami. Hmmm

Posted by: gdaley | February 14, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Hello.

I have been a long time reader of the blog and would like to introduce myself and exactly what i'll be posting. I see that there are a lot of walking websters that post here. So I would like to simply take a complex word from someones post and give the definition of it. I think it will help a lot of people that may not understand your verbal use. I know many of you maybe thanking me right now... Don't worry I got your back! And you'll never read a football related comment from me, because there are too many opinions flying around on that issue already. Thanks.

Posted by: RedDMV | February 14, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

"Note -- The Redskins announced that ticket prices won't increase in 2008. They have gone up just once since 2000"
But What about the beer prices????!!!!
This sounds like some sort of eveil, treacherous, plan that VinnyDan has concocted to lull us all into a false sense of security/optimism. I'll bet he will secretly charge $20 per beer in the stadium, but only when folks use their credit cards (not cash) in hopes that they won't notice how much they cost.
MUHAAAHAAAHAAAAHAAAAA!!!!!!
I'll say it now; I am officially boycotting the $20 beers.......I will only pay cash!!!! Then he'll have to sell the team.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | February 14, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Guys - get a clue! Sherman is clearly a class act and is going about things in the right way. Guessing how well he will do as an OC based on how quickly (from your vantage point)he makes a decision - give me a break.

Go Zornskins!

Posted by: 1 | February 14, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

In 2007 the ticket prices did not increase. However, parking (Green section) increased from $25 a game to $35 a game.

$35 just to park!!! Granted, the tailgating is sometimes the best part of the day (the last ten years, without question the best part of the day).

Posted by: youcrew | February 14, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Smith is going to say no. Then Cerrato is going to hire Gerry Faust.

Posted by: kohastings | February 14, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Listen guys he is just following the process. Maybe loyalty doesn't mean anything to you, but I respect Smith for wanting to talk to Fisher first. He may still say yes/no, but at least this guy is being classy about it.

Posted by: Veretax | February 14, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

"Process" is the new "thorough".

Posted by: tafka | February 14, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Beantown,

To respond from a few posts ago. I am anti-anyone, regardless of point of view, that bangs the same drum comment after comment...

In my bloated opinion we have to many people up here who I feel I could write their comments before they do...

I like my sheeeet funny, fresh, insightful and varied. Put some personality into it...not just "white hot anger guy", or "defend til I puke guy" or "Skins suck" guy...ya know what I mean....

Another pet peeve of mine is peeps who don't "read the room" if convo b mellow and funny and people just clowning and ignoring work don't come up here and drop a jerk bomb...

But whateves...I sound like a pompous windbag even as I type..

Above all as a wise zen capitalist once said..."Do You"

Posted by: chrislarry | February 14, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

In 2007 the ticket prices did not increase. However, parking (Green section) increased from $25 a game to $35 a game.

Posted by: youcrew | February 14, 2008 03:25 PM

My guess is that parking is going to $40.00 in 2008. Captive audience and all that.

Posted by: tafka | February 14, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

skinz, sorry about that...I'll get in lock step...

DAMN YOU SNYDER FOR RAISING TICKET PRICES EVERY YEAR SINCE 1957!!!!

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 14, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Jason Reid for new RI blogger.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 14, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

1957 Ticket price: $1.25

Posted by: youcrew | February 14, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

I would be blown out of the water if anyone would ever want Zach Thomas at this point. He has had 1000 knock outs becuase he stands in the hole with his head down and lets backs light him up on almost every play.

Posted by: sams3 | February 14, 2008 01:25 PM

tackle is loosly used for what he does. see my above post.

Posted by: sams3 | February 14, 2008 01:26 PM

Sams, you have actually WATCHED a game of football haven't you?

Zach Thomas hasn't made all-PRO 7 years (including most recently 2005 and 2006) by letting "backs light him up on almost every play".

We all like to rep our teams and are proud of that, but don't just make shti up to do it, please. Some of your posts lately are pretty much "(non-Skins) player 'x' from team 'y' sucks", the basis for this statement mostly being that the aforementioned player does not play for the Redskins.

I know this place has been Super Cranky recently thanks to the matters of the last few weeks, but remember we're all football fans here or at least most of us are.

Some people here lately are frankly out of their depth in the shallow end of the gene pool.

Posted by: Redcoat | February 14, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

"General admission ticket prices for Washington Redskins games will remain unchanged for the 2008 season, the team announced Wednesday."

Doesn't "general admission" usually refer to single game tickets available at the gate? With a sold-out stadium, is there really any "general admission"?

Posted by: tafka | February 14, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Smith must have a collaborative style.

He was probably ready to accept at dinner (Z-man, you had me at Tossed Salad), but had to discuss it with the family and get the HC blessing.

(so it may not be as indecisive as it sounds)

Posted by: _Stumped_ | February 14, 2008 03:03 PM

I agree. Sounds like he wants to be here, just doing the things that he said he would do first. (opinion)

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 14, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

"Z-Man"?

sounds like a 2-14 season coming up.

Posted by: makalb18 | February 14, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Doesn't "general admission" usually refer to single game tickets available at the gate? With a sold-out stadium, is there really any "general admission"?

Posted by: tafka | February 14, 2008 03:31 PM

I wondered about that wording myself. My incredibly expensive rafter seats do not say "General Admission" on them.

Posted by: youcrew | February 14, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Z-Man"?

sounds like a 2-14 season coming up.

Posted by: makalb18 | February 14, 2008 03:32 PM

As long as those two are against the cowgirlz...

Posted by: youcrew | February 14, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Last comment was NOT aimed at sams3, by the way.

Posted by: Redcoat | February 14, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat,
Did Zach Thomas end up marrying Kelly Kapowski, or did they beak up during the college years? Or was she already dating Brandon in Beverly Hills at that point? I couldn't keep it straight. She was hot though; kudos to Zach either way.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | February 14, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

I would be blown out of the water if anyone would ever want Zach Thomas at this point. He has had 1000 knock outs becuase he stands in the hole with his head down and lets backs light him up on almost every play.

Posted by: sams3 | February 14, 2008 01:25 PM

tackle is loosly used for what he does. see my above post.

Posted by: sams3 | February 14, 2008 01:26 PM

Careful sams, anymore posts like that and Snyderatto will offer him 7 year $70 mil contract.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 14, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

That should read "break" up

Posted by: dlhaze1 | February 14, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

And now I sound "super cranky" too. Wonderful.

Posted by: Redcoat | February 14, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

RC bringing the pain, I like it. If you make RC get out the stick chances are your in the wrong.


Speaking of which RC who do you have Arsenal v. Milan?

Posted by: Skinz | February 14, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat,

I always thought the primary responsibility of linebackers on running plays was to fill those gaps in the line and stop the ball carrier, but hey, what do I know?

Posted by: tafka | February 14, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

I think she dumped him for Screech dlhaze. :-)

And I think 'beak up' sounds more intriguing!

Posted by: Redcoat | February 14, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

I like my sheeeet funny, fresh, insightful and varied. Put some personality into it...not just "white hot anger guy", or "defend til I puke guy" or "Skins suck" guy...ya know what I mean....

Another pet peeve of mine is peeps who don't "read the room" if convo b mellow and funny and people just clowning and ignoring work don't come up here and drop a jerk bomb...

But whateves...I sound like a pompous windbag even as I type..

Above all as a wise zen capitalist once said..."Do You"

Posted by: chrislarry |

"Save the Dress" that was good was it not?


I need your approval as a blog regular.

I also did a good 'trading places' post two weeks ago. That was were Al Davis and Dan did a 1 dollar bet like in the movie.

Just from reading the posts it did not seem like we needed any quality at all. No one told me..........

I will try and do better!

Posted by: mul | February 14, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Since 1999, the team has increased ticket prices only twice (2000 and 2006), a rarity among U.S. sports franchises. General admission tickets currently range in price from $29 to $99.

this press release is total B___S___
my tix cost 109 and im in the effin corner of the stadium. And I dont know anyone who has ever gotten into the cooker for 29. Those must be the "obstructed view seats that are always empty as the patrons from those seats simply move down and try and sit in my seats.

Posted by: matthewwmccarthy | February 14, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Okay, RedDMV, I'll bite... what the heck are you talking about?

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 14, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

we need more haiku,
danbots are taking over;
jibba jabba NOW

Posted by: tafka | February 14, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

for what its worth mul...i dig your posts...

but whateves F me and my opinions.....

Posted by: chrislarry | February 14, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Bless those on here who put that little tool box Jason Canfora in his place. I've had it up to here with his lies and his spin. Could he possibly be a bigger douche bag? Not to mention his smug grin and arrogance he displays on WaPo Live. I seriously can't believe I'm going to have to do this, but I can't in good conscience read his crap anymore--so this is it.

This will be the last time I read Redskins Insider until one of my friends who also reads it informs me that Jason Canfora is no longer covering the team.

Peace y'all.

Posted by: rickyd | February 14, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of which RC who do you have Arsenal v. Milan?

Posted by: Skinz | February 14, 2008 03:42 PM

NEVER bet against the Italians. My money says Arsenal play beautifully throughout the two games but go out on away goals or the odd goal in Milan.

And Tafka, thankyou. Sometimes I hear things that make me feel like I must have been getting everything about football back to front all these years!

Posted by: Redcoat | February 14, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, one last thing:

For all the morons who claim that you must be a "danbot" or from the "extremeskins" website if you're criticizing CAnfora, that is roughly the equivalent of us saying you must be Canfora's family members if you are standing up for that lying tool bag these days.

PEACE OUT

Posted by: rickyd | February 14, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Domo arigato, Mr. Roboto.

(I'll bet that Nate is a really big fan of Styx.)

Posted by: tafka | February 14, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Lighten up, Francis.

Posted by: 4-12 | February 14, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Those must be the "obstructed view seats that are always empty as the patrons from those seats simply move down and try and sit in my seats.

Posted by: matthewwmccarthy | February 14, 2008 03:45 PM

Aren't they like $65 each or something?

Posted by: Redcoat | February 14, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

(I'll bet that Nate is a really big fan of Styx.)

Posted by: tafka | February 14, 2008 03:53 PM

I agree, I can see him bopping along to 'Babe' with the top down and his beret firmly on.

Posted by: Redcoat | February 14, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat,
Did Zach Thomas end up marrying Kelly Kapowski, or did they beak up during the college years? Or was she already dating Brandon in Beverly Hills at that point? I couldn't keep it straight. She was hot though; kudos to Zach either way.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | February 14, 2008 03:36 PM


I rarely post on this blog, but the above comment left me no choice.

How can anyone mix up Zach Thomas for Zach Morris?!?!?!? Zach Morris was the man!

And for the record, Kelly never dated Brandon when she showed up on 90210. He was too much of a "nice guy" for her character who often preferred the "dark and troubled" type.

Posted by: skinzman17 | February 14, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse

rickyd,

Yes, please go back to redskins.com where you can get real objective reporting!!
The only "lying tool bag" is the little Napoleon and his concubine Cerrato!

God speed and good riddance!!

Posted by: skinsfan7 | February 14, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, I got a headache just reading the name "Styx."

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 14, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

shhh, skinsfan7, shhh... just let him go. there's nothing we can do for him.

let him go.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 14, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

I have two words for Daniel Snyder:

Zach Thomas!

Not because he's old or a big name or has a lot of pro bowls....

But because he was good 5 years ago!

Get em Dan.

Posted by: Dorf | February 14, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

dlhaze, you hooked one, reel 'em in!

Posted by: Redcoat | February 14, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

skinzman17, I think (hope) Hazy was making a joke.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 14, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat,

Everytime I read a comment like that one about Zach, I think to myself, "Are they referring to futbol?" Granted, I don't really know anything about futbol (soccer), which is why I think that. Some of the stuff lately sounds as if the writers have never seen an American Football game. It's very strange.

Posted by: tafka | February 14, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

rickyd,

You are like the guest at a party who keeps standing in the doorway announcing that he is leaving and never leaves. You 3 exit posts are two too many.

Posted by: driley | February 14, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Just a thought...maybe this Smith thing is just a smoke screen for Dan's master plan....

Fassel as OC and heir apparent to take over for Zorn (at which point, Gregg Williams will come out of the woodworks and be the next hc)

Anything makes sense at this point in the "process".

Posted by: roger_c_hughes | February 14, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

RC,

Cesc v. Pirlo will be interesting, they'll play in the same space.

ManU. in a snoozer.

Liverpool with the minor upset.

My Roma boys, sans Totti, pull the shocker against Madrid. (A guy can dream can't he?)

Posted by: Skinz | February 14, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Nate, do you know all the words to "The Grand Illusion?"

Posted by: tafka | February 14, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

I got it, RedDMV.

Concubine -noun. A woman who cohabits with a man to whom she is not legally married, esp. one regarded as socially or sexually subservient; mistress. A secondary wife, usually of inferior rank.

Posted by: SMACK1 | February 14, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Smith had planned to inform new head coach Jim Zorn today but was unable to meet with Titans Coach Jeff Fisher. Smith promised Fisher he would speak with him before giving Zorn his decision.

Riiiight.... He's just making ready to ask for more money from the current employer, just like Spaghnoodle and Meeks.

The Washington Redskins - the official salary and payroll Boogieman for every NFL coach and player, since 2000....

Posted by: FlimFlam | February 14, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

rickyd,

I hear that the little Napoleon is looking for a new "head" coach....might you be a candidate?

Posted by: skinsfan7 | February 14, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Smith's loyalty and professionalism are going to poison the chemistry of our front office.

Also the Tenn. offensive stats don't impress because their qb doesn't throw so well.

Posted by: mack1 | February 14, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

I have a good feeling about how the Redskins coaching staff is shaping up. They're promoting assistants who come from good coaching trees, who are getting their shot based on potential and intangibles instead of polished resumes. It's a risk, but it's one I'm willing to get behind. It's an approach that mirrors building the team through the draft instead of going for high-priced free agents past their prime.

As for yesterday's post about Earnest Byner, any blame for the plight of last year's coaching staff has to start with Gibbs. Don't get me wrong, I love the man. And I'm a big fan of Byner as well. But it was Gibbs who walked out before completing his contract, leaving Snyder with the unexpected task of finding a new head coach and his assistants twisting in the wind. You can take shots at Snyder for the way Williams, Saunders and Byner were treated, but the ultimate responsibility for this lies first and foremost with Gibbs. It's easy to take shots at Snyder and give Joe a pass, but in this instance they are misplaced sentiments.

Posted by: billyrich | February 14, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

I thought I'd try a grammarian/latin joke to pass the time while you guys wait for Tecumseh to make his mind up. Or not. With Beer. Or not.

Anyway, this joke reflects what some people feel happened to Earnest Byner:

A woman gets into a cab at Logan Airport and asks the driver, "Excuse me, can you tell me where can I get scrod?"

The driver replies, "Lady, I've been asked that question many times before, but never in the past pluperfect."

Wah wah wah wah.....

Posted by: Redcoat | February 14, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

I personally think this is a good thing. I'm sure some will disagree but we got bigger needs elsewhere and don't need to break the bank on a potential head case.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3245503

Posted by: cdubb | February 14, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Domo arigato, Mr. Roboto (Domo! Domo!)

Posted by: tafka | February 14, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

jasno, they've figured you out bro. Time to stop all the lying and "spinning." Your plan to single-handedly annihilate the Redskins franchise has been scooped. Seek refuge, 'cause rickyd's boycotting the blog.

Posted by: psps23 | February 14, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Wait.......so Zach Thomas wasn't on saved by the bell? Even the college years? I thought Bob Golic played Zach. Now I'm really confused. Did Kelly marry Bob Golic?

Posted by: dlhaze1 | February 14, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, Nate - the tune is stuck in my head now.

(Currently imagining the tortured look on Nate's face.)

Posted by: tafka | February 14, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

I thought I'd try a grammarian/latin joke to pass the time while you guys wait for Tecumseh to make his mind up.

Posted by: Redcoat | February 14, 2008 04:05 PM

LMGO!

Posted by: tafka | February 14, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

but whateves F me and my opinions.....

Posted by: chrislarry | February 14, 2008 03:47 PM

Ditto

[by which I mean F cL and his opinions. Happy Valentine's Day, chRIs Larry! Also, F Valentine's Day.]

Posted by: dcsween | February 14, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

With this kind of decisiveness, what kind of game plan can we expect from Smith?

Posted by: tafka | February 14, 2008 02:58 PM


I agree with Stumped. Doesn't sound indecisive to me. Just sounds like he's operating out of respect for a man who's been a good boss to him for a long time. This is a good thing, not a bad one.

Posted by: freakzilla | February 14, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

I have two words for Daniel Snyder:

Zach Thomas!

Not because he's old or a big name or has a lot of pro bowls....

But because he was good 5 years ago!

Get em Dan.

Posted by: Dorf | February 14, 2008 03:59 PM

I warned you about those comments. 57 year $70 mil contract in the works!

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 14, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Reid made up the "Z-man" part, right?

Posted by: Joe_in_Raleigh | February 14, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Should read 7 year ( I can't type today)

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 14, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Sherman should be interviewing for a job with the Falcons?

Posted by: tafka | February 14, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

If Mr. Smith doesn't take the OC job offer, maybe we could get Fassel or Mariucci. I understand both are available.

Posted by: dcsween | February 14, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

** Warning futbol ;post **

Cesc v. Pirlo will be interesting, they'll play in the same space.

ManU. in a snoozer.

Liverpool with the minor upset.

My Roma boys, sans Totti, pull the shocker against Madrid. (A guy can dream can't he?)

Posted by: Skinz | February 14, 2008 04:01 PM

Arsenal Milan could be game(s) of the tournament so far. Liverpool? Sorry, just don't care. Manu U should brush past Lyon and there's always hope for Roma!

Tafka, agreed.

Posted by: Redcoat | February 14, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Right now rickyd is on extremeskins punctuating his posts with smiley faces.

Posted by: mack1 | February 14, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

GALLIA est omnis divisa in partes tres, ....

Oops, wrong blog.

Posted by: Markin21132 | February 14, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

"Maybe Sherman should be interviewing for a job with the Falcons?"

Posted by: tafka | February 14, 2008 04:15 PM

To land an assistant spot on the Falcons, you need a two word nickname like White Shoes or Sugar Bear.

http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/falcons/stories/2008/02/13/falconsnot_0214.html

Posted by: dcsween | February 14, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Reporter: "Why a 57 year contract for Zach Thomas Dan?"

The Owner: *Smugly* "Why not?" "And that's 'Mr' Snyder not 'Dan' to you scribe"

Reporter: *quizzically* "But Dan, he's already 34".

The Owner: *angry* "Is he? Vinny, why wasn't I told this!?"

* at this point press conference turns into a scene from any Abbott and Costello movie... *

Posted by: Redcoat | February 14, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

"We can have a full staff meeting with the full complement of our coaches here in Flowery Branch."

"White Shoes of Flowery Branch" - has a nice ring to it, n'est-ce pas?

Posted by: tafka | February 14, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

* at this point press conference turns into a scene from any Abbott and Costello movie... *

Posted by: Redcoat | February 14, 2008 04:24 PM

Add Karl to the scene and then segue to "The Three Stooges" instead.

Posted by: tafka | February 14, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

sorry for my absence today... actually working

I dont think anyone is denying the fact that Byner was a great player. From what I have seen he was a great RB Coach as well. As much as I hate to see him go.... You have to let the Coach decide who his staff is... Z-Man is the new Head Coach if he feels Stump is the man he is the Man. I hope Byner cathches on somewhere else and if people take note of his track record here I assume he will.

Posted by: trailblazer658 | February 14, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Was that something about dividing something into three Mark (from the Future)? A chicken or something?

It's years, well my whole life actually, since I last did Gerund or Gerundive.

Posted by: Redcoat | February 14, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

RC,

It was your favorite country - France.

Posted by: Markin21132 | February 14, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

That being said the whole Stump thing worries me... One of my co workers is an avid Seattle fan... When I told him we snatched Stump he laughed and asked me if I watched Shaun Alexander run this year? Remeber this is coming from a Seattle guy he says seems like you guys did pretty well running with no line this year...

Posted by: trailblazer658 | February 14, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

It was a little Caesar (not the pizza chain). Tempus fugit.

Posted by: driley | February 14, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

et cum spiritu tuo

(hey, don't blame me - it's peter's fault!)

Posted by: tafka | February 14, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Ah, Gaul!!

I think God created the most beautiful country in the world and then filled it with French people, just for grins.

Posted by: Redcoat | February 14, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Sorry catching up here...

How sad will it be if Smith shoots us down?? To stay in Tenn. at a lower position...

Posted by: trailblazer658 | February 14, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Oh and Zack Morris was the man

Posted by: trailblazer658 | February 14, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Warden: Your turn, Johnny. The priest you've requested has arrived.
Priest: Are you ready, my son?
Johnny: I'm ready if you are, father.

Priest: Dominus vobiscum nabisco. Espiritu sanctum. De gustibus.
Priest: Me gustibus. You gustibus. We missed the bus. They missed the bus.
Priest: When's the next bus?
Priest: Summa cum laude. Magna cum laude. The radio's too laude. Adeste fidelis.
Priest: Centra fidelis. High fidelis.
Priest: Post meridian. Ante meridian. Uncle meridian. All of the little meridians

Posted by: Redcoat | February 14, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

If Sherman takes the job, can Zorn's new nickname be "Mr. Peabody"?

Posted by: freakzilla | February 14, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

How sad will it be if Smith shoots us down?? To stay in Tenn. at a lower position...

Posted by: trailblazer658 | February 14, 2008 04:32 PM

Not sad at all. If that's what he wants out of life, he's not the right guy for the job. Better to find out before he takes it than later.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 14, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

lol nice one freak....

Posted by: trailblazer658 | February 14, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Reporter: "Why a 57 year contract for Zach Thomas Dan?"

The Owner: *Smugly* "Why not?" "And that's 'Mr' Snyder not 'Dan' to you scribe"

Reporter: *quizzically* "But Dan, he's already 34".

The Owner: *angry* "Is he? Vinny, why wasn't I told this!?"

* at this point press conference turns into a scene from any Abbott and Costello movie... *

Posted by: Redcoat | February 14, 2008 04:24 PM

* at this point press conference turns into a scene from any Abbott and Costello movie... *

Posted by: Redcoat | February 14, 2008 04:24 PM

Add Karl to the scene and then segue to "The Three Stooges" instead.

Posted by: tafka | February 14, 2008 04:26 PM

Take it and run boys, take it and run.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 14, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Conjugation of spitto: spitto, spitere, spitui, splat

Posted by: driley | February 14, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Shaun Alexander stopped running hard as soon as the ink was dry on his big contract. Cnncurrently, their big Guard left in free agency. Then, when Alexander was injured (for the first time in his career?), he started running scared. There's probably no coach in the world that can fix that. Morris/Maurice/? seemed to do pretty well for a small guy in that running game, however.

Posted by: tafka | February 14, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

TE- Good Point

Thing is I dont know about you but I have never turned down a promotion and a substantial raise... Maybe I am missing something is Tenn. that great?

Posted by: trailblazer658 | February 14, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Shaun Alexander stopped running hard as soon as the ink was dry on his big contract. Cnncurrently, their big Guard left in free agency. Then, when Alexander was injured (for the first time in his career?), he started running scared. There's probably no coach in the world that can fix that. Morris/Maurice/? seemed to do pretty well for a small guy in that running game, however.

Posted by: tafka | February 14, 2008 04:40 PM

Didn't Mack Strong leave too?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 14, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Maybe this was already mentioned, but on the news (channel 4?) they said the other coaches' nickname for Zorn is 'Big Z'.

Posted by: fgtdr | February 14, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

* at this point press conference turns into a scene from any Abbott and Costello movie... *

Posted by: Redcoat | February 14, 2008 04:24 PM

Add Karl to the scene and then segue to "The Three Stooges" instead.

Posted by: tafka | February 14, 2008 04:26 PM

Add Chris Cooley as Harpo and it could be the Marx Brothers?

Posted by: Redcoat | February 14, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Didn't Mack Strong leave too?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 14, 2008 04:42 PM

Yeah, he retired due to injury early in the 2007 season. Good call. That's like Portis losing Big Mike.

Posted by: tafka | February 14, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Definitely not Stump Mitchell's fault that Alexander runs like a pu*sy. He ran hard right up till he got that fat contract.

Posted by: cdubb | February 14, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse

We have a process and the process must be good for the process and process of the process is a PROCESS!!!!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH make it stop!!!

Posted by: novus_0 | February 14, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Add Chris Cooley as Harpo and it could be the Marx Brothers?

Posted by: Redcoat | February 14, 2008 04:43 PM

Sure, as long as he wears his short-shorts and you give him one of those weird horns.

Posted by: tafka | February 14, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Big Z I like it...

Posted by: trailblazer658 | February 14, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Sure, as long as he wears his short-shorts and you give him one of those weird horns.

Posted by: tafka | February 14, 2008 04:48 PM

Would you bet against Cooley owning one of those horns? I can picture him in the changing room... PARP PARP!!

Posted by: Redcoat | February 14, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Lots of people here are dissapointed but I think the fact that we wont be getting Johnson is a blessing in disguise...

To build a team that will be good for years to come we need to sign either younger free agents (noone over 27) or use that thing the NFL has every year in April... Some call it the draft

Posted by: trailblazer658 | February 14, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

When ur name is Zorn do you need a nickname?

Posted by: chrislarry | February 14, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

I just read that Robert Rodriguez is doing a remake of Barbarella, and he plans on having Rose McGowan as the lead.

....not so sure about that combo.

Posted by: kost52 | February 14, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

I'm not sold on the whole Big Z/Z-Man/JayZ naming scheme. My vote goes to "Zornlander".

"I'm not an ambi-Norv."

Posted by: tafka | February 14, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

When ur name is Zorn do you need a nickname?

Posted by: chrislarry | February 14, 2008 04:54 PM

Touche my friend...touche.

Posted by: psps23 | February 14, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

I just read that Robert Rodriguez is doing a remake of Barbarella, and he plans on having Rose McGowan as the lead.

....not so sure about that combo.

Posted by: kost52 | February 14, 2008 04:54 PM

Robert Rodriguez is a great film-maker (IMHO) but that's just plain silly. Barbarella is supposed to have an innocence about her. Rose McGowan?!?

Posted by: Redcoat | February 14, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Would you bet against Cooley owning one of those horns? I can picture him in the changing room... PARP PARP!!

Posted by: Redcoat | February 14, 2008 04:51 PM

Cooley probably used one of those horns to announce his arrival at the bank drive-up window to cash his new bonus check this week.

Posted by: tafka | February 14, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

The deadline to hit the $116 million salary cap is Feb. 29 (15 days away), and the Redskins are whittling away at their number.


The Redskins just cut their salary cap overage in half by converting Pro Bowl tight end Chris Cooley's $11 million roster bonus into pro-rated money, saving almost $8 million. That leaves them about $8 million over the salary cap.


Defensive end Andre Carter, receiver Antwaan Randle El and guard Randy Thomas also have reworked their deals since the end of the season with agreements that shift money to future seasons while adding a voidable final year in each contract.

Posted on February 14, 2008 2:02 PM

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 14, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Cooley probably used one of those horns to announce his arrival at the bank drive-up window to cash his new bonus check this week.

Posted by: tafka | February 14, 2008 04:59 PM

Either that or airhorns like Rodney Dangerfield had in Caddyshack.

Posted by: Redcoat | February 14, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Barbarella is supposed to have an innocence about her. Rose McGowan?!?

Posted by: Redcoat | February 14, 2008 04:57 PM

Maybe a pregnant Jessica Alba would be better.

Posted by: tafka | February 14, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat, I agree, I guess it just means they plan on changing the movie drastically. Which is a shame, I love the movie and don't want a remake.

Posted by: kost52 | February 14, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

No more Caddyshack jokes! My ribs can't take it.

Posted by: tafka | February 14, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

F remakes

Posted by: chrislarry | February 14, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Emmitt Smith at The Movies -

"Barbarella got blowed up!"

Posted by: tafka | February 14, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Well, I'm off to spend the evening with the people that form the centre of my universe.
I wish you all a happy Valentine's evening with those you love to share it with.

You all did great work today; seeing off the 'dingbats' or 'dongbits' or whatever they're called and restoring the equilibrium of RI through intensive jibba and jabba, both fubball and non-fubball related.

Until next time, I remain as always, your most humble and obedient servant....

Toddcoat

Posted by: Redcoat | February 14, 2008 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Same here all. Have a great Valentine's day. may you all get what's coming too you, whatever that may be.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 14, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

I HIT
YOU HIT
WE ALL HIT


BONG HIT!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | February 14, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

GALLIA est omnis divisa in partes tres, ....

Oops, wrong blog.

Posted by: Markin21132 | February 14, 2008 04:19 PM

GACK! Painful flashback to my high school Latin classes and having to translate Caesar's "Gallic Wars"!

Oh, and Redcoat - I'm impressed. Most people in this country have never even heard of the word "pluperfect", let alone know what it means.

Re: the Smith decision - I agree with Stumped et al, that Smith is trying to be fair to all parties in this situation. I sincerely hope this is the case - I would hate to find out that he took one look at this organization and decided he's better off as an assistant in Tennessee than as an OC in Washington. Oy.

Posted by: jaradel | February 14, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

(still holding out hope for Sherman Hemsley...)

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 14, 2008 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Defensive end Andre Carter, receiver Antwaan Randle El and guard Randy Thomas also have reworked their deals since the end of the season with agreements that shift money to future seasons while adding a voidable final year in each contract.

Posted on February 14, 2008 2:02 PM

I don't exactly understand this. I thought if you were a youngish player you would want a voidable year. But if you were an older player it wouldn't do much for you.
AC is I think 28, and his contract runs through 2014 so he will be 35. ARE the same. Randy Thomas is 31 and contract also runs through 2014 so he would be 38 (hopefully I got this right, from PC's cap charts).

I guess having the option is better than not having it - after all the team always has the option to cut you so why not get the option for yourself as well. But why would this be a useful carrot for a player who will be pretty old (35 or 38) - not like the big payday comes at age 35 1 yr contract (exception: see Brunell, Mark).

Maybe it is more the combination of the 2 that is confusing - why also would a player shift money to future years if they had the option to keep it in earlier years? Surely there must be some added $ in there somewhere, but this was not reported.

Am I missing something? Let me know, thanks.

Posted by: zornskins | February 14, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

rickyd and others who are not fans of Jason...get over it. this is a respected journalist, not a rumor monger, working with limited intel from behind the burgundy curtain. he's obviously adept at analysis and doesn't sugar coat things for anybody. this is not a forum for barbs and peejoratives leveled at a reporter, rather a place for fan discourse about the team. try doing what he and jason reid do on a daily basis. and try being available to the public in a forum almost 24/7.
-#1 zorn*star

Posted by: brendancox | February 14, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse

PIERCE CHARGED WITH ANIMAL NEGLECT

Last year, Giants linebacker Antonio Pierce declared in response to the Mike Vick situation that "[a]nybody who fights pit bulls is a punk."

Now, Pierce is accused of neglecting one of his own pit bulls.

The Middlesex (N.J.) Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals is a quasi-law enforcement group, and it has issued to Pierce a summons based on the condition of one of two pit bulls that escaped from Pierce's house while he was in Arizona for the Super Bowl.

But Pierce is not accused of fighting dogs. "This summons is for neglect. There is no pitbull fighting or any of that nonsense here," said agency chief Walt Mychalchyk. "After the dogs got loose, we found that one was underweight and had a respiratory illness. The other one was fine."

Pierce doesn't face jail time for the charge, and it's not an actual arrest. Though we're tempted to give the Giants three points in Turd Watch II, we've decided that it's not the kind of thing that results in points being "awarded."

Posted by: grizlies98 | February 14, 2008 7:14 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and Redcoat - I'm impressed. Most people in this country have never even heard of the word "pluperfect", let alone know what it means.


Posted by: jaradel | February 14, 2008 05:40 PM

If his name didn't give it away, he aint from this them there country, he's one a dem feriners...

Posted by: Skinz | February 14, 2008 7:24 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe the skins hired Stump Mitchell. MORGAN STATE FIRED HIM!!!!

Posted by: radevine | February 14, 2008 7:45 PM | Report abuse

For you Mr Smith on Valentines Day.

Should I stay or should I go now?
Should I stay or should I go now?
If I go there will be trouble
An if I stay it will be double

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ag8J2NMYmc

Posted by: _Stumped_ | February 14, 2008 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Coat,
I got a big laugh from that there pluperfect.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | February 14, 2008 7:58 PM | Report abuse

This blog is scrod.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | February 14, 2008 8:25 PM | Report abuse

What a ridiculous comment! I believe Stump Mitchell was "Head Coach" at Morgan State EONS ago. If he was fired, so what? Most college coaches (and NFL coaches) get fired at some point. He has been with the Seahawks for 8-9 years.

As I mentioned earlier this week, Vinny C will be taking calls tomorrow on Redskins Radio (12:00 - 1:00 pm). He has said he will answer ANY question. L. Michael did say they were already getting questions via email and that some were really "crude." Shocking, huh? :) The number is 866-690-3776. I'm hoping some of you can call and implore Vinny not to trade away our draft picks...to keep Rock Cartwright, etc.

Posted by: Lisa_R | February 14, 2008 8:35 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe the skins hired Stump Mitchell. MORGAN STATE FIRED HIM!!!!

Posted by: radevine | February 14, 2008 07:45 PM

I've got to agree with Lisa -- you take it for the dumbest tool on the blog today.

Have you looked at Morgan State's Record? Stump was about their most successful coach. The guy ahead of him was Ricky Diggs, who went 10-45 over a five year period. The guy after him was Stanley Mitchell, who went 5-27 over three years. Stump was the bright spot in that era. He was better than the guy before him and the guy after him. He went 8-24-1 during his three years there. He was the only coach who won four games in a season!

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 14, 2008 8:59 PM | Report abuse

is everyone out there actually getting some action on Val day? dead up here....

Posted by: chrislarry | February 14, 2008 10:18 PM | Report abuse

is everyone out there actually getting some action on Val day? dead up here....

Posted by: chrislarry | February 14, 2008 10:18 PM

Right. V-Day. OMG! And I thought we were all watching Lost.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 14, 2008 10:23 PM | Report abuse

LOST RULED TONIGHT!!!!!

Posted by: chrislarry | February 14, 2008 10:24 PM | Report abuse

For those of you interested, here are the Bios from ESPN's Scouts Inc. on some of the guys we may take in the 1st Rnd.

Calais Campbell
DE | (6'7", 279, 4.8) | MIAMI (FLA.)

Scouts Grade: 93

Strengths: Has good initial quickness, can beat blockers to the point of attack and can make plays in the backfield. Plays with decent leverage for a player his height, shows good lower body strength and is capable of holding his own when teams run at him. Has above-average upper body strength, extends arms once in position and flashes the ability to shed blocks quickly. Takes sound angles to the ball, plays with a good motor when fresh and makes plays in pursuit. Wraps up upon contact, shows good body control in space and is an adequate open field tackler that flashes the ability to jar the ball loose. Plays with a mean streak, takes the shortest path to the quarterback and flashes the ability to push tackles back into the quarterbacks? laps. Changes directions well, runs line stunts well and flashes an effective swim as well as rip move when shoots inside. Shows adequate awareness and generally does a nice job of sniffing out screens. Doesn?t always get hands up when isn?t going to get to the quarterback but jumps fairly well and has very long arms so can make it difficult for the quarterback to find a passing window.

Weaknesses: Lacks ideal top-end speed and is going to have a harder time turning the corner at the NFL level. Doesn?t have elite closing speed and is step slow getting to the quarterback at times. Doesn?t always get great hand placement and isn?t fast enough to recover in time to get to the quarterback when offensive tackles are able to lock onto him. High-center of gravity makes it difficult to get under offensive linemen?s pads and struggles to anchor against double teams. Occasionally gets caught too far upfield and is vulnerable to draws. Appears to wear down late in games and needs to work on endurance.

Overall: Campbell?s production dipped last year and he lacks the top-end speed to develop into an elite edge rusher at the NFL level but he is one of the more complete defensive ends in this year?s class. He has the burst, athletic ability and size to effectively defend the run and get to the quarterback when he?s fresh and playing with sound technique. Phillips projects as a first-round pick as a result.

Posted by: kost52 | February 14, 2008 10:47 PM | Report abuse

Phillip Merling
DE | (6'4", 275, 4.71) | CLEMSON

Scouts Grade: 86

Strengths: Has above-average initial quickness for size and can beat blockers to the point of attack. Moves well laterally and keeps head up when scraping down the line of scrimmage. Takes excellent pursuit angles, plays with a good motor and has above-average range. Has problems shedding bocks when lets blockers lock onto frame but plays with a mean streak and flashes a powerful punch. Wraps up upon contact and is reliable open field tackler that can deliver the big hit. Uses hands to protect legs, shows good balance and can fight over cut blocks though is somewhat inconsistent in this area. Flashes the ability to turn the corner and is a relentless pass rusher. Athletic enough to redirect inside after starting outside and flashes an effective swim move. Stays alert, has long arms and gets hands up when isn?t going to get to the quarterback. Has experience lining up at defensive tackle, has experience dropping into coverage and is versatile.

Weaknesses: Has good size for a defensive end but stands up too much, plays with a narrow base and gets driven back at times. Doesn?t have great instincts and takes too long to locate the ball at times. Lacks elite closing speed for an end and is going to have a harder time turning the corner at the NFL level. Relies on quickness and athletic ability too much and isn?t much of a bull rusher at this point. Overaggressive, gets caught too far upfield and is vulnerable to delayed handoffs. Turns shoulders and creates running lanes too much. Doesn?t always rush outside in and lets quarterbacks break contain too much.

Overall: Merling doesn?t have the speed of a dominant edge rusher or the size of an every-down defensive tackle. However, he?s big enough to develop into an effective run stuffer at end and quick enough to get to the passer when lined up at defensive tackle so he projects as a second round pick.

Posted by: kost52 | February 14, 2008 10:48 PM | Report abuse

James Hardy
WR | (6'5", 218, 4.58) | INDIANA

Scouts Grade: 92


Strengths: Flashes the ability to get a clean release working against press coverage and can get open quickly when corners give him a cushion. Athletic and fluid changing directions when footwork is sound. Shows good toughness over the middle and can hold onto the ball after taking the big hit. Doesn't have great top-end speed but is a long-strider, shows good sideline awareness and tracks the ball fairly well so can make the occasional play downfield. Has excellent size and rarely gets muscled out of routes. Stays alert, shows good awareness and works back to the quarterback when the protection starts to break down. Uses wide frame to shield defenders from the ball and can make tough catches in traffic. Snatches the ball out of the air, is fluid turning upfield after catches and can pick up yards after contact. Times jumps well and has the potential to develop into a productive red zone target.

Weaknesses: Rounds off too many cuts, doesn't set corners up by changing speeds and is an inconsistent route-runner at this point. Lacks ideal explosiveness and is going to have a harder time separating from man coverage at the NFL level. Takes too long to reach top speed, isn't going to make defenders miss in space and isn't much of a big-play threat after the catch. While has great size and flashes the ability to get into position doesn't play with enough of a mean streak and effort is inconsistent when blocking. Indiana suspended him for two games for an off-the-field incident in 2006 and character is somewhat of a concern.

Overall: Hardy's upside is limited by his lack of prototypical explosiveness but he possesses a unique blend of size, athleticism and reliable hands so he projects as a late first-round pick.

Posted by: kost52 | February 14, 2008 10:49 PM | Report abuse

lack of speed a huge negative on both dudes...we dont need more lunch pail guys on DL we need a beast speed rusher....

Posted by: chrislarry | February 14, 2008 10:49 PM | Report abuse

Lost won't be on for another hour here on the Left Coast.

Should I warn someone? It really amazes me how those actors do the same lines over and over again for each time zone.

Call me crazy, but to me, Juliette is the most hittable one on the island.

If Sherman Smith decides to stay in Tennessee, I'll lob him a call, which will give me three hours to get him to change his mind.

Don't laugh, I have debating skillz.

Posted by: corkczar | February 14, 2008 10:55 PM | Report abuse

CL - Well I guess if we want a guy who is going to be solid against the run, we'll be looking at the bigger DE's like these two. If we want a 'beast speed rusher', we'd be looking at guys who are a similar build to Andre Carter, around 250-260lbs.

Posted by: kost52 | February 14, 2008 11:01 PM | Report abuse

Such as -

Derrick Harvey
DE | (6'4", 250, 4.65) | FLORIDA

Scouts Grade: 94

Strengths: Has an explosive first step and can beat most blocker to the point of attack. Shows good awareness and locates the ball quickly. Moves well laterally and does a nice job of scraping down the line of scrimmage. Stays home when plays goes away from him and generally does a nice job of setting the edge when opponents attack the perimeter to his side. Takes sound pursuit angles, closes down cutback lanes and has sideline-to-sideline range. Plays under control in space, wraps up upon contact and is a reliable open field tackler. Is fast enough to turn the corner and shows excellent closing speed when gets a clear path to the quarterback. Runs line stunts well and flashes an effective rip move when shoots inside. Changes directions well, flashes an effective spin move and can set tackles up to the outside before redirecting inside. Has a mean streak and flashes the ability to deliver the big hit when gets to the quarterback. Keeps head up, times jumps well and can get hands on passes when doesn?t get to the quarterback. While doesn?t have much experience dropping into coverage, is quick and athletic enough to hold own in zone coverage once he gains experience in this area.

Weaknesses: Though tough, lacks ideal lower body strength, doesn?t always stay low to the ground and struggles to anchor when teams run at him. Doesn?t use hands well, doesn?t deliver power punch and takes too long to long to shed blocks when gets reached. Relies on quickness too much and occasionally tries to sidestep blocks rather than stacking them up. Doesn?t protect legs all that well and is vulnerable to cut blocks. Appears to pull up when blockers are able to get into position and effort is inconsistent.

Overall: Harvey is going to have problems holding his own when NFL offensive tackles get their hands on him so he isn?t a good fit for a team that asks its defensive linemen to occupy two gaps. However, he has the burst and athletic ability to eventually excel in a one-gap scheme and he should make an immediate impact rushing the passer. Harvey projects as a first round pick consequently.

Posted by: kost52 | February 14, 2008 11:03 PM | Report abuse

Process.......

BONG!

Posted by: leevi98 | February 14, 2008 11:06 PM | Report abuse

"Hey Z-man, what do you think of my Mr. T starter kit and my Terminator shades....hold on to the OC position for me...I'll be back. " --the Mitchster.

Posted by: DownTownClown | February 14, 2008 11:21 PM | Report abuse

Jla,

What are the general qualifications for offensive assistant...a heart beat? What exactly did Granpa Brueax and little Eddie Saunders Jr. do...offensively, day-to-day? Get gatoraide up to the sky booth? Pass snap shots from the booth to the sideline?

What are the quals of Mr. Count Meidt St. Olaf of the Minnesota sisters of the poor? He gets the job sight unseen? After the other guys do multi-day marathon interviews? What are the tiers of responsibility like on this position?

Posted by: DownTownClown | February 14, 2008 11:32 PM | Report abuse

I guess what I'm askin is If "Shermy" sticks in Tennesee, could we see Z-man promote "Mitchster-Stumpy" for OC??? Then "EB" gets the RB job back....

Posted by: DownTownClown | February 14, 2008 11:39 PM | Report abuse

Zorn will be the play-caller and quarterbacks coach for the Redskins next season. Earlier in the week, the Redskins hired Chris Meidt, head coach of St. Olaf College in Minnesota, to be an offensive assistant. The plan is for Meidt to assist Zorn and the other top-level staff members, freeing Zorn to work with quarterbacks -- particularly young starter Jason Campbell -- during practice. Mitchell will have significant input in devising running plays and, along with the offensive coordinator, help teach Zorn's scheme to the coaching staff and players.


Does this give anyone pause?

Seattle when it came down to it were weak pus***. I don't want too many of there coaches. St. Olaf's all the way.

Posted by: mul | February 15, 2008 12:27 AM | Report abuse

I saw the Indian receiver (6-5) above. Looked imposable to cover. The draft reports makes him seem like if we could get him in the second round he would fit nicely as our slot WR.

If we can't get a fast DE that can play the run too I think we should go for an DT that can bull rush.

Posted by: mul | February 15, 2008 12:32 AM | Report abuse

Meidt makes right.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 15, 2008 1:33 AM | Report abuse

So who do we like tonight?

1st Round: Phillip Merling, DE, Clemson

2nd Round: Tracy Porter, CB, Indiana

3rd Round: Jordy Nelson, WR, Kansas State

4th Round: Traded to Denver

5th Round: Donald Thomas, G, U.Conn

6th Round: Letroy Guion, DT, Florida State

7th Round: Demetrius Bell, OT, Northwestern State

Posted by: TheCrickets007 | February 15, 2008 2:21 AM | Report abuse

I saw the Indian receiver (6-5) above. Looked imposable to cover.

Posted by: mul | February 15, 2008 12:32 AM

Please, it's 2008, and he prefers to be known as the Native American receiver. Either way, though, he'd be a great fit for the Redskins.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 15, 2008 6:51 AM | Report abuse

cL, thanks for the info on Lost a couple of weeks ago about the oceanic promo. yep loved syed's role as a cold blooded killer. it's finally good to see people getting whacked on that show. i didn't see the girl coming. that was purty good. and i think the number 5/6 are the girl and her kid. or it could be the korean couple.

Posted by: dealer | February 15, 2008 7:20 AM | Report abuse

"I thought Dan did a great job," Gibbs said, referring to Redskins owner Daniel Snyder. "It was a tough, real long process there. They were able to keep most of the coaching staff there, so that's exciting. There are only two or three coaches who are probably not going to be there. That's pretty good, considering the size of that coaching staff. So I'd say it's probably, what, 85 percent of the coaching staff that got to stay. Not only that, but all of the medical team and everybody in the equipment room. I think there's

I can't believe he continues to take up for him.

Posted by: jm220 | February 15, 2008 7:39 AM | Report abuse

I saw the Indian receiver (6-5) above. Looked imposable to cover.

Posted by: mul | February 15, 2008 12:32 AM

Please, it's 2008, and he prefers to be known as the Native American receiver. Either way, though, he'd be a great fit for the Redskins.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 15, 2008 06:51 AM

Let's get this straight. It's what you would prefer him to be known as. I doubt he really cares.

Posted by: drbatchelor | February 15, 2008 7:44 AM | Report abuse

Oh, god.
The Friday fun begins when somebody mistypes 'Indiana'?
Maybe I'll get to attend some meetings this morning!

Posted by: daggar | February 15, 2008 8:01 AM | Report abuse

What the hell is Stump Mitchell's real first name?I don't know about a staff with guys with names like Z-man and Stump.Sounds like a bowling team.

Posted by: smittdiddy | February 15, 2008 8:10 AM | Report abuse

Lyvonia Albert Mitchell - he probably prefers Stump.

Posted by: Markin21132 | February 15, 2008 8:15 AM | Report abuse

cricks, if you can post the bios on the guys you listed I'd appreciate it. Looks like a good list, however this is the first I'm hearing of this cat from Clemson, Merling. He seems to have good size, and good speed to boot. I do think that Campbell is going to be a player, however, I think with his height he'll be able to disrupt passing lanes.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 15, 2008 8:24 AM | Report abuse

Lyvonia Albert Mitchell - he probably prefers Stump.

Posted by: Markin21132 | February 15, 2008 08:15 AM

With a name like that so would I. lol

Posted by: jm220 | February 15, 2008 8:24 AM | Report abuse

*****Lost Post******

Dealer - My new theory was that the funeral that Jack attends in last season's finale flash forward is Sayed's. Its obviously one of the 6. I thought maybe locke or ben at first...but locke is still on the island...who knows...I love that ride!


*****End Lost Post****


Ok back to useless sniping

Posted by: chrislarry | February 15, 2008 8:29 AM | Report abuse

Would you fools stop talking about Lost I have it on DVR and will watch it today.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 15, 2008 8:31 AM | Report abuse

kmdp4, maybe if you spent less time working on your thesis paper about how Dan Snyder is the best thing for football since the advent of the forward pass you would have time to catch up on your TV.....

Posted by: chrislarry | February 15, 2008 8:35 AM | Report abuse

I can't believe he continues to take up for him.

Hey JM what did Snyder do to Gibbs that would make you say this.

Was it because he got FedEx to give Gibbs the third race team he wanted?

Was it that he paid him a fortune for OK results?

I think Dan is an A hole 95% of the time but when it came to Gibbs he gave him everything he wanted.

Gibbs left, Dan did not force him to do so and do not give me this crap about Grandson, I did not know his Grandson lived in Daytona.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 15, 2008 8:40 AM | Report abuse

And so begins another day of peace, love and harmony.

I think you've probably got your answer as to who got - or did not get - 'any' last night cL!

Posted by: Redcoat | February 15, 2008 8:46 AM | Report abuse

kmdp4, maybe if you spent less time working on your thesis paper about how Dan Snyder is the best thing for football since the advent of the forward pass you would have time to catch up on your TV.....

Posted by: chrislarry | February 15, 2008 08:35 AM

Maybe I should just spend all day writing hate post with no facts to back them up like most of you do. I will start now.

Dan/Vinny are the worst FO in football!

The redskins will be 0-16 this year.

Zorn will be fired in the 3rd week of the season.

Vinny will become the new coach.

Dan will change the team colors to Pink and Purple.

Will will trade our entire draft for CJ.

Did I miss anything?

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 15, 2008 8:46 AM | Report abuse

Can't we all just get along???

RC, heard on the Radio today that Zach wants to play next year. I'll never understand that, like the boxer who retires 5 fights too late. The NFL needs to step in and prevent him from hurting himself...

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 15, 2008 8:50 AM | Report abuse

Sher-man will decide
Tomorrow
Bet your bottom dollar
That tomorrow
We'll be done!

Just thinkin' about
Tomorrow
Clears away the de-feats,
And the sorrow
'Til there's none!

With no news on R-I
It's gray,
And lonely, so
I just stick out my chin
And Grin,
And Say,
Oh!

Sherman will decide
Tomorrow
So ya gotta hang on
'Til tomorrow
Come what may
Tomorrow! Tomorrow!
I love ya Tomorrow!
You're always
A day
A-way!

Posted by: Redcoat | February 15, 2008 8:50 AM | Report abuse

Amen Greg. The problem he has is that he's fit and 'healthy' - as in he's having no symptoms right now, so he probably feels like there's no reason why he can't carry on.

But getting his bell rung just one more time might be it. He never came back from being concussed when his car was rear-ended in his car by a Pats fan after the first game against them last season, he should have taken that as his 'last and final' warning from the big guy upstairs.

You're right, these guys don't know when to stop - taht's what makes them such great players, but someone else has to say "time to sit down Son, you've done your bit".

Where's Goodell when we need him?

Posted by: Redcoat | February 15, 2008 8:54 AM | Report abuse

ITS FRRIIIDDDAAYYY!!!

Posted by: trailblazer658 | February 15, 2008 8:56 AM | Report abuse

Redcoat -

I have to think that they will run Thomas through a barrage of tests before he ever steps foot on the field again. Ultimately you would hope that someone that cares for him on a personal level would tell him to hang it up...

Still its got to be tough to realize the biggest part of your life is slipping away.

Posted by: trailblazer658 | February 15, 2008 9:01 AM | Report abuse

Can't we all just get along???

What fun would that be.

Lets move on with some Jibba Jabba,

Specter has a hair up his a$$ he is going to form a committee to investigate spygate, I have no pity for the Patriots but is'nt this guy from Pennsylvania. I think he might have lost some money on superbowl 39.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 15, 2008 9:03 AM | Report abuse

kmdp4,

check the public record never said any of that stuff. But I guarantee your jumping in someone's shorts the moment they say anything disparaging our dear leader....

Any way, fool, I was just trying to chat with my boy dealer about one of RI's fave shows. You started the name calling.

Posted by: chrislarry | February 15, 2008 9:03 AM | Report abuse

Redcoat -

I have to think that they will run Thomas through a barrage of tests before he ever steps foot on the field again. Ultimately you would hope that someone that cares for him on a personal level would tell him to hang it up...

Still its got to be tough to realize the biggest part of your life is slipping away.

Posted by: trailblazer658 | February 15, 2008 09:01 AM

Don't players have to go through physicals before signing deals with new teams? I would hope it would be more than just a cursory glance with him.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 15, 2008 9:06 AM | Report abuse

CL,

Do not tell me that you are that sensitive I was kidding for one I could care less if you guys talk about Lost. Fool was not ment in a deragatory way I thought you would know that, sorry if I offended you.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 15, 2008 9:08 AM | Report abuse

Phihttp://clemsontigers.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/merling_phillip00.htmllip Merling bios

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 15, 2008 9:10 AM | Report abuse

The problem scamp and trailblazer is that they don't (I believe) have any baseline scans from when Zach hadn't been scrambled.

They can probably see that he may not have deteriorated recently, but that doesn't mean he's not already got problems ahead.

The other things is that someone needs to tell him that this is only the biggest part of his life SO FAR. He's a smart enough guy and a great enough leader that he could make a very good coach, but he won't be able to do that if he's too busy drooling.

This is where the NFLPA should be handling it, NOT the teams, because some team will always be prepared to put a guy that good on the field and say "it was his decision".

Posted by: Redcoat | February 15, 2008 9:11 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 15, 2008 9:11 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 15, 2008 9:13 AM | Report abuse

Still its got to be tough to realize the biggest part of your life is slipping away.

Versus spending the rest of your life, drooling, drinking your meals, and wearing adult diapers. I would think a wife/family member would say, "you've had a good run, but if you continue, I'm gone" Isn't Jason Taylor his brother in law?

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 15, 2008 9:13 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 15, 2008 9:15 AM | Report abuse

Scamp,

I have heard some good things about Merling, could be a good pick at 21. If we have the pick, I will go on record that if we trade the 21st pick I will rip Snyder and Vinny everday for the rest of my life. We do not need CJ.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 15, 2008 9:16 AM | Report abuse

I know he was his brother-in-law Greg, but I think he's separated or divorced from Zach's sister now.

Regardless, to me it needs to be someone 'in authority'. If a loved one came between him and football that may cause resentment for a long time, but if 'the man' says 'no more for you' it's different isn't it?

The NFLPA needs to protect its people much better than it does.

Posted by: Redcoat | February 15, 2008 9:18 AM | Report abuse

Greg,

That is correct JT is his brother in law, I think Redcoat is wright the Players association needs to step in not the NFL, if a team thinks he can produce they will pick him up.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 15, 2008 9:19 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 15, 2008 9:19 AM | Report abuse

"Specter has a hair up his a$$ he is going to form a committee to investigate spygate, I have no pity for the Patriots but is'nt this guy from Pennsylvania."
Yes, and he also is the guy who dreamed up the "magic-bullet" theory for the Warren Commision.

Posted by: skinsfan_81 | February 15, 2008 9:21 AM | Report abuse

cricks, if you can post the bios on the guys you listed I'd appreciate it. Looks like a good list, however this is the first I'm hearing of this cat from Clemson, Merling. He seems to have good size, and good speed to boot. I do think that Campbell is going to be a player, however, I think with his height he'll be able to disrupt passing lanes.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 15, 2008 08:24 AM

Did you want to see the rest of 'em?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 15, 2008 9:21 AM | Report abuse

hey KM just counter punching is all.....

You guys need to stop talking about Zach Thomas, b/c now we will prolly sign him......

Posted by: chrislarry | February 15, 2008 9:22 AM | Report abuse

You're right, these guys don't know when to stop ... but someone else has to say "time to sit down Son, you've done your bit".

Posted by: Redcoat | February 15, 2008 08:54 AM

But imagine if they took Powerpoint away from you... "dammit, that marketing presentation is my Life!!"
Or if they gave Jasno a full-up QWERTY keyboard, such as.

"Process"

Posted by: daggar | February 15, 2008 9:23 AM | Report abuse

If I never had to write another PowerPoint presentation?

How much difference would it make to my life?

None at all.

Posted by: Redcoat | February 15, 2008 9:25 AM | Report abuse

Specter has a hair up his a$$ he is going to form a committee to investigate spygate, I have no pity for the Patriots but is'nt this guy from Pennsylvania. I think he might have lost some money on superbowl 39.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 15, 2008 09:03 AM

No, that's not the story. Comcast has its headquarters in Philadelphia. Specter is concerned by the NFL's charges for the NFL network. If Comcast and the NFL reach an agreement, then I think you'll see Specter's interest in Sypgate dry up pretty quickly.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 15, 2008 9:26 AM | Report abuse

*****Lost Post********

Dealer/CL

Do you think Ben is one of the Oceanic 6? He was a pretty sketchy character and seemed to be able to get off the island on his own. Perhaps he snuck off with no fan fare?

Posted by: Skinz | February 15, 2008 9:27 AM | Report abuse

Hey get that deeped-voiced movie guy's voice in your head:In a world where coordinators are promoted to head coach without ever calling a play,two men will join forces to fight the NFC East and take back the streets.Move over Starsky and Hutch,slide aside Cagney and Lacey,and don't even think about it Tango and Cash,this summer it's Z-MAN AND STUMP!!!(This movie has not yet been rated).

Posted by: smittdiddy | February 15, 2008 9:27 AM | Report abuse

Redcoat, I know you like Miami, I didn't mean to trash on one of the fan favorites. I just never understood why he was considered great, esp. for the past 5-7 years.

In my opinion the kind of plays I look for from a middle line backer would be to knife into the backfield and stuff an outside run for a loss. I know this is a lot to ask from a player but players like Fletch do it multiple times a year. Admittedly i don't follow Miami as closely as you do, however, I NEVER see Thomas make plays like this. he usual stands about 5-10 yards off the line, directly in the middle of the field, and the play gets channeled toward him. He stands there like a ball bag and lets the player run into him, hoping that the impact with knock the player down with him. The only time he ever gets into the backfield for a tackle would be a dead ahead play where he is assigned to hit a gap, aka J Trotter.

I'm not saying he has no value or isn't any good. All I am saying is that he doesn't have the over the top ability to break plays up sideline to sideline like top tier linebackers do. If you need a brick wall he is the guy.

If he was on the Redskins I would say the same thing, I just never understood his style of play. I don't' want to offend you by saying this it's just an opinion and very likely a wrong one at that.

Posted by: sams3 | February 15, 2008 9:27 AM | Report abuse

Instead of "process", how about

"Competence" ?

Posted by: Redcoat | February 15, 2008 9:27 AM | Report abuse

If I never had to write another PowerPoint presentation?

Posted by: Redcoat | February 15, 2008 09:25 AM

There you are, thinking only of yourself. The purpose of PowerPoint is to help others, not yourself.

I have a son in the sixth grade, and he and his friends make and swap PowerPoint study guides for their science tests. Sixth grade.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 15, 2008 9:29 AM | Report abuse

I will go on record that if we trade the 21st pick I will rip Snyder and Vinny everday for the rest of my life. We do not need CJ.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 15, 2008 09:16 AM

I'm 99% sure you will do this if the trade is made or not.

I'm 85% sure you would do this even if the Skins went 19-0 next year.

Posted by: sams3 | February 15, 2008 9:32 AM | Report abuse

Well, I think the "Process" is supposed to lead to "Competence"
We'll just have to wait and confer about that.

Posted by: daggar | February 15, 2008 9:33 AM | Report abuse

I started to come up with this theory about the Meidt hire, how Dan's people were cruising RI and saw our references to that legendary coach from Minnesota State, Hayden Fox, and that got them thinking about the coaching treasures to be found in Minnesota via TV Land, and that led them to Golden Girls and Saint Olaf.

But then I got distracted about this dude Merling, who is from all reports a football wizard.

Happy Friday.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 15, 2008 9:35 AM | Report abuse

Sams3

You have me confused I am one of the only people on this post that stand up for the FO.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 15, 2008 9:36 AM | Report abuse

I am one of the only people on this post that stand up for the FO.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 15, 2008 09:36 AM

And look what it's gotten you! You can't tell the players without a program. You need to change your name to kmdp4-frontofficesuckup.

Maybe we need a page on the wiki so people can correctly identify the pro-FO guys without having to read their posts?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 15, 2008 9:41 AM | Report abuse

Sams3

You have me confused I am one of the only people on this post that stand up for the FO.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 15, 2008 09:36 AM

My apologies. Everyone trashes them so hard that I have to just assume that is the case.

Posted by: sams3 | February 15, 2008 9:41 AM | Report abuse

TE:

Great idea, please post wiki page of FO apologists, FO Haters...

Posted by: chrislarry | February 15, 2008 9:43 AM | Report abuse

sams, I think Zach is more the 'standard' for MLB than London. I think Fletcher is a VERY good player, but he's totally different to Zach.

Zach's career solo tackle percentage is about 66%, but Fletcher's is 75%. That implies to me that Fletcher expects to make the tackle with the rest of the defense aligned to ensure he ends up with the guy.

Zach was always the 'fire plug' in our D; we used to have reasonable corners and safeties, and Jason Taylor was - usually - in the backfield, so there's no point Zach being there too. That means he's on "stuff the run" and "clean-up" duty.

What supports your case though is that Zach has only two years on LFB in the NFL, but close to 500 more tackles to his name.

It's all good, you know? What you posted here is a lot more detail than you posted before and I respect your opinion on this.

Posted by: Redcoat | February 15, 2008 9:45 AM | Report abuse

FO Apologists vs. FO Haters

It'll be like Locke's group vs. Jack's group.

Would Locke be an apologist or a hater?

Posted by: mmok | February 15, 2008 9:46 AM | Report abuse

I'm with Locke if this is a philosophical argument!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Locke

Otherwise what are we talking about?

Posted by: Redcoat | February 15, 2008 9:48 AM | Report abuse

Locke is an apologist

Posted by: chrislarry | February 15, 2008 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Sorry Redcoat - I forgot to put *LOST post* at the top of my entry.... :)

Posted by: mmok | February 15, 2008 9:50 AM | Report abuse

TE,

I have been following the team for 30yrs, I know just as much about the team and players as anybody on this blog.

I can not help it if you can not handle somebody having a different view then you.

If your opinion of the FO is that bad then do not support them that is your choice.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 15, 2008 9:51 AM | Report abuse

RC...Locke is a character on Lost, named after the philosopher as are many of the characters names little references...

Posted by: chrislarry | February 15, 2008 9:51 AM | Report abuse

FO apologists, FO Haters...

Posted by: chrislarry | February 15, 2008 09:43 AM

Don't forget DanBots.

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 15, 2008 9:51 AM | Report abuse

Oh and much apologies to all.

I tried to chat the other day about watching 'Lost' and being confused by it and then went on to describe the only episode of 'Heroes' that I've ever seen...

I really am that much of a dummy. Sorry.

It would appear that I've never seen 'Lost' at all.

Posted by: Redcoat | February 15, 2008 9:51 AM | Report abuse

That's an interesting conceit cL. Is it just a conceit or do the characters actually reflect the personalities/theories of their namesakes?

Posted by: Redcoat | February 15, 2008 9:54 AM | Report abuse

this is how I always remember philosopher's names...

Immanuel Kant was a real pissant
Who was very rarely stable.

Heidegger, Heidegger was a boozy beggar
Who could think you under the table.

David Hume could out-consume
Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel,

And Wittgenstein was a beery swine
Who was just as schloshed as Schlegel.

There's nothing Nietzsche couldn't teach ya
'Bout the raising of the wrist.
Socrates, himself, was permanently pissed.

John Stuart Mill, of his own free will,
On half a pint of shandy was particularly ill.

Plato, they say, could stick it away--
Half a crate of whisky every day.

Aristotle, Aristotle was a bugger for the bottle.
Hobbes was fond of his dram,

And René Descartes was a drunken fart.
'I drink, therefore I am.'

Yes, Socrates, himself, is particularly missed,
A lovely little thinker,
But a bugger when he's pissed.

Posted by: Redcoat | February 15, 2008 9:56 AM | Report abuse

not sure if it was posted already, but i'm almost positive DC 101 is reporting smith has accepted OC job...

Posted by: skinzman17 | February 15, 2008 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Not sure which category I fit under. I don't curse Snyder every chance I get, but neither do I defend him.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 15, 2008 10:00 AM | Report abuse

Not sure which category I fit under. I don't curse Snyder every chance I get, but neither do I defend him.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 15, 2008 10:00 AM

I was wondering that myself, that's kinda where I fall.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 15, 2008 10:03 AM | Report abuse

I guess we're fence walkers

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 15, 2008 10:04 AM | Report abuse

Happy BONG day!

Posted by: bigmurf08 | February 15, 2008 10:05 AM | Report abuse

Now how about Australian Table Wines?

"This is a bottle with a message, and the message is: beware!"

Posted by: daggar | February 15, 2008 10:06 AM | Report abuse

The article in WaPo also confirms Smith...

RC: Lost does weave in philosophical and literary references with some narrative can character sketches inspired by the reference. Its a layered show with lots of easter eggs and threads for fans to disect and research....

Beantowm, u represent a "Judge on the feild approach" that I dig...I am more of an emotional type and the Dan Snyder Arch Type is one I abhor....but will never leave the skins so I find ways to deal. You and Old School are my ballast for keeping a more football/analytical approach...

Posted by: chrislarry | February 15, 2008 10:06 AM | Report abuse

I am a Chris Larry apologist.

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 15, 2008 10:09 AM | Report abuse

TE:

Great idea, please post wiki page of FO apologists, FO Haters...

Posted by: chrislarry | February 15, 2008 09:43 AM

Well, if it was a great idea, then I would have thought that chrislarry himself (inventor of the wiki) would have made the page. On the other hand, I admire his leadership and delegational skills, and sheep that I am, have dutifully complied with the shepherd's wishes. There's a new page on the Wiki: Front Office: Yes, No, or Maybe So--

http://redskinsinsiders.wetpaint.com/page/The+Front+Office%3A++Yes%2C+No%2C+Maybe+So

You can declare yourselves (I put myself in the "Maybe So" category), or you can put people up there where you think they belong.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 15, 2008 10:10 AM | Report abuse

I need a staff of those apparently! Thanks OG E!

F cris Larry

Posted by: chrislarry | February 15, 2008 10:10 AM | Report abuse

Good work TE, now get me a coffe and a scoan...

Posted by: chrislarry | February 15, 2008 10:12 AM | Report abuse

The only time I stick up for the FO is when people say that things that happened under Gibbs was Dan/Vinny's fault.

Everything snyder did before bringing Gibbs back was a joke.

I think that the coaching search all though laughable in length and every other area did produce a coach.

I am taking a wait and see on how Zorn will do before deciding if it was a bad hire or not.

I do not believe EB was done wrong that is my opinion some agree some do not, I do not think that is taking up for the FO.

I will also wait to see how Vinny handles this offseason before I just bash him as being the worst FO person in the league.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 15, 2008 10:15 AM | Report abuse

Good work TE, now get me a coffe and a scoan...

Posted by: chrislarry | February 15, 2008 10:12 AM

I just pushed them under your door. It didn't work like I planned it. You may want to call someone from maintenance.

Wait, that's me, too. Never mind.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 15, 2008 10:16 AM | Report abuse

I have been following the team for 30yrs, I know just as much about the team and players as anybody on this blog.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 15, 2008 09:51 AM

I think we all recognize this in you and respect your insights and opinions.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 15, 2008 10:18 AM | Report abuse

I think we all recognize this in you and respect your insights and opinions.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 15, 2008 10:18 AM

Are you trying to get on my Good Side

Great job on the Wiki page.

By the way good job putting JLC on the haters side.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 15, 2008 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Jibba Jabba ?

If the local security policy has pushed a 90 day ticker for password change, and you create an account with the password never expires checked. With the intention of turning it off in a couple days when does the ticker start the day the password was set or when you unchecked password never expires?

Just in case there are any Systems people on this blog.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 15, 2008 10:26 AM | Report abuse

Are you trying to get on my Good Side

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 15, 2008 10:22 AM

I am always trying to get on everyone's good side. Except once in a while when I try to get on their bad side.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 15, 2008 10:27 AM | Report abuse

I believe it starts when the password is created. If you turn off password never expires after 90 days, it is automatically expired. I could be wrong though. My active directory training was a long time ago.

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 15, 2008 10:30 AM | Report abuse

where oh where is the update_etrod when you need him?

According to Knowldge Base article #KB2309874203982340928424098242390482340298423423094823490238423904829034824029834290348242923842
it's the square root of the mean number of days between the expiration and the resetting of the local policy.
Yes, we subjected this to usability testing. Why do you ask?

Posted by: daggar | February 15, 2008 10:37 AM | Report abuse

What a scene that will be in the offensive meetings....all gathered around a big conference table with their starbucks, red bull, diet coke or whatever....you'll have

Z-Man
Stump
Buges
and someone named Sherman

they will be gameplaning for guys like


Soup
SE Jerome
Captain Chaos
and maybe Ocho Cinco

Posted by: cej75024 | February 15, 2008 10:38 AM | Report abuse

We have more nicknames than wins

Posted by: cej75024 | February 15, 2008 10:39 AM | Report abuse

Thanks etrod,

I thought that was how it worked.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 15, 2008 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Unfortunately you're stuck with Beta_etrod

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 15, 2008 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Anyone watch Big Brother, Amanda loves showing off the junk in her trunk.

To bad her nose looks like it was hit with a baseball bat.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 15, 2008 10:43 AM | Report abuse

not sure if it was posted already, but i'm almost positive DC 101 is reporting smith has accepted OC job...
Posted by: skinzman17 | February 15, 2008 09:59 AM

Ah, DC101....how I miss living down there. How's the Greaseman doin' anyway?
haba do gaga, haba do gaga, HABA DO GAGA!!!!!!!

Posted by: dlhaze1 | February 15, 2008 10:46 AM | Report abuse

dlhaze, you haven't lived here in a while, huh?

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 15, 2008 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Greaseman lol thats going back...

And already stated I think but yes it is 90 days from creation of the password. For instance if you created then set it to never expire... then unchecked (after the 90 days) it it will prompt you to change on next authentication.

Posted by: trailblazer658 | February 15, 2008 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Ah, DC101....how I miss living down there. How's the Greaseman doin' anyway?
haba do gaga, haba do gaga, HABA DO GAGA!!!!!!!

Posted by: dlhaze1 | February 15, 2008 10:46 AM

As the news spread about Don Imus's return to big-time radio in New York -- complete with multimillion-dollar contract and prime morning-drive-time slot on one of the most popular stations in the nation -- Doug "Greaseman" Tracht cradled a cocktail and settled onto the Good Ship Grease in Annapolis Harbor, ready for a day on the bay.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 15, 2008 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Thanks TB,

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 15, 2008 10:55 AM | Report abuse

TE,

Let it be known I am FOR the FO!

Infact, if I had a shirt that said DANBOT I would never take it off!

Posted by: sams3 | February 15, 2008 10:56 AM | Report abuse

So we've got an HC and RB coach who've worked under Holmgren and an OC whose worked under Fisher - not too shabby IMO.

As an aside - what's this about Goodell saying he'd give legal protection to the film guy from NE if he has new info re: spygate. Didn't know Goodell and NFL had such authority.

Posted by: mtnskinsfan | February 15, 2008 10:56 AM | Report abuse

um....trip sams...i think thats established....add it to the wiki...i put myself on there...

Posted by: chrislarry | February 15, 2008 11:00 AM | Report abuse

dlhaze, you haven't lived here in a while, huh?

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 15, 2008 10:52 AM

It's been about 18 years......I miss the good old days.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | February 15, 2008 11:00 AM | Report abuse

Oh yeah, and I am pro Mark May, pro Joe Jacoby, and pro Theatre-Vision!

Posted by: dlhaze1 | February 15, 2008 11:02 AM | Report abuse

Walsh, the film guy, is not being charged with anything. They wouldn't be able to protect him from any kind of criminal charges.

What they are providing is paid legal defense in the case that the Patriot organization decides to bring any civil charges (libel, slander, etc.) against Walsh for telling what he knows,

Posted by: drbatchelor | February 15, 2008 11:02 AM | Report abuse

Didn't know Goodell and NFL had such authority.


Posted by: mtnskinsfan | February 15, 2008 10:56 AM

C'mon, you didn't know the NFL is the mafia? I can't wait until they do a Godfather-style movie about the league.

Back to the burgundy and gold: is anyone else disturbed by this new OC? He's vacillating over this decision not unlike Danny did over hiring a HC. If he's this indecisive, what's he going to do for halftime adjustments on gameday?

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 15, 2008 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Anyone watch Big Brother, Amanda loves showing off the junk in her trunk.

To bad her nose looks like it was hit with a baseball bat.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 15, 2008 10:43 AM

I experienced a moment of true existential horror when I read this post.

Big Brother is still going?

Posted by: Redcoat | February 15, 2008 11:06 AM | Report abuse

"Black Stump Bordeaux is rightly praised as a peppermint flavoured Burgundy, whilst a good Sydney Syrup can rank with any of the world's best sugary wines."

What say you Kost? or Cload?

Posted by: Redcoat | February 15, 2008 11:07 AM | Report abuse

brownwood,

I thought what he was trying to do was to exit Tennessee in a graceful way -- meeting with Fisher, first.

That's not vacillation, it's class. He won't fit in well here.

But, if, in the end, he decides not to come then, no I wouldn't miss him.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 15, 2008 11:08 AM | Report abuse

"Quite the reverse is true of Château Chunder, which is an appellation contrôlée, specially grown for those keen on regurgitation; a fine wine which really opens up the sluices at both ends."

Diddy would be proud.

Posted by: daggar | February 15, 2008 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Theater Vision! That's is classic...right up there with nobody bothers me, Captain 20 and Kiss My Bumper!

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 15, 2008 11:13 AM | Report abuse

That's not vacillation, it's class. He won't fit in well here.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 15, 2008 11:08 AM

So true Talent, so true...

That's what he's saying now though, before he was rambling about how OCs are overrated because everyone works on the gameplan and he wasn't sure he wanted to do it. I know it looks like he'll take it now, but I don't know if I want a guy who's not sure he wants the promotion.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 15, 2008 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Everytime I come in the kitchen you in the kitchen in the god d@m refridgerator eaten up all the food.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 15, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

"Old Smokey 1968 has been compared favourably to a Welsh claret, whilst the Australian Wino Society thoroughly recommends a 1970 Coq du Rod Laver, which, believe me, has a kick on it like a mule: eight bottles of this and you're really finished. At the opening of the Sydney Bridge Club, they were fishing them out of the main sewers every half an hour."

Posted by: Redcoat | February 15, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Smith is probably waiting to talk to Fisher to see if his good buddy GG has any dire warnings about coming here.

Posted by: mtnskinsfan | February 15, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

"Another good fighting wine is Melbourne Old-and-Yellow, which is particularly heavy and should be used only for hand-to-hand combat."

Posted by: Redcoat | February 15, 2008 11:27 AM | Report abuse

"Real emetic fans will also go for a Hobart Muddy, and a prize winning Cuivre Reserve Château Bottled Nuit San Wogga Wogga, which has a bouquet like an aborigine's armpit"

Posted by: Skinz | February 15, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

From John Czarnecki: Should Favre retire?

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7789482/10-burning-questions-for-NFL-off-season

He was one game away from the SB and has a young team returning next year. I'd be shocked if he quit now.

Posted by: mtnskinsfan | February 15, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

um guys, Smith is in.....this has been up since last night:

ttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/14/AR2008021403526.html

Posted by: chrislarry | February 15, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Who thinks Chris Wilson would make a good outside linbacker instaed of just being a third down rusher he is 6-4 240 and is very fast?

I think he could take over for Washington sometime down the road.

If this sounds crazy sorry just trying to generate some conversation.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 15, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Who thinks Chris Wilson would make a good outside linbacker instaed of just being a third down rusher he is 6-4 240 and is very fast?

I think he could take over for Washington sometime down the road.

If this sounds crazy sorry just trying to generate some conversation.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 15, 2008 11:42 AM

I think he's been impressive so far. If he gets some good starting reps and attention in practice and some more playing time, he could get better.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 15, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

********LOST**********
cL, the casket was too small to be of a grown man.

skinz, no ben is not one of the oceanic 6. because i think in the promo for next week they tell you that it'll be revealed next week.

i fell for the girl as a po'old girl caught in the middle but i knew that syed was working for ben the whole time.

also read somewhere that since the strike is over there will be 4 or 5 more episodes this season...

woohooo

*********skins******
Z-man sounds very pathetic...gaaaawwwlly it's gonna be a long season for those who're gonna follow it next year.

Posted by: dealer | February 15, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

***lOST POST****

Dealer: Yes they have will get 5 new episodes done for this season to bring to 13. They plan on finishing the story arc they orginally planned but in three less episodes (from 16 to 13) so should mean action packed and dense at the end of season.

*** End Lost post***

Dealer you know you will be following next year...lets give Zorn a chance...what choice is there...

Posted by: chrislarry | February 15, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Theater Vision! That's is classic...right up there with nobody bothers me, Captain 20 and Kiss My Bumper!

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 15, 2008 11:13 AM


What about Mr. Ray's Hair Weave?!

Posted by: youcrew | February 15, 2008 12:00 PM | Report abuse

..."Not only that, but all of the medical team and everybody in the equipment room. I think there's been a real continuity to trying to keep the group together."

Joe Gibbs

Ah Ha! We have our answer on the continiuty question. Bubba and the Equipment Manager are fighting their guts out and are super smart.

Posted by: Skinz | February 15, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Catching up from yesterday...

Oh, and Redcoat - I'm impressed. Most people in this country have never even heard of the word "pluperfect", let alone know what it means.

Posted by: jaradel | February 14, 2008 05:40 PM

If his name didn't give it away, he aint from this them there country, he's one a dem feriners...

Posted by: Skinz | February 14, 2008 07:24 PM

Actually, that's why I used the phrase "Most people in this country" instead of "Most Americans", because I know that RC is from Ye Olde Country. I think that there is more emphasis placed on the study of grammar in the British educational system. Either that, or RC was forced to take Latin for a couple of years (I actually took it by choice, which just goes to show how much of a geek I am).

Still catching up...

Jibba Jabba ?

If the local security policy has pushed a 90 day ticker for password change, and you create an account with the password never expires checked. With the intention of turning it off in a couple days when does the ticker start the day the password was set or when you unchecked password never expires?

Just in case there are any Systems people on this blog.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 15, 2008 10:26 AM

I believe it starts when the password is created. If you turn off password never expires after 90 days, it is automatically expired. I could be wrong though. My active directory training was a long time ago.

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 15, 2008 10:30 AM

OE is correct. There's a handy little DLL out there called AcctInfo.dll that you can download from Microsoft. Stick it in your \System32 directory, and then run regsvr32 to register it. Open ADUC and look at the properties for a user account. There should be an "Additional Account Info" tab. Even for an account where "Password Never Expires" is checked, there is still an expiration date of X days after the "Password Last Set" date (where X is whatever the expiration time is in your security policy). The "Password Never Expires" simply overrides this expiration date, but does not remove it.

Further proof that I am a huge geek, but hey, being a sysadmin where I am pays pretty well :)

Posted by: jaradel | February 15, 2008 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Ah Ha! We have our answer on the continiuty question. Bubba and the Equipment Manager are fighting their guts out and are super smart.

Posted by: Skinz | February 15, 2008 12:05 PM

Now if only he'd included the caterers... then they'd be eating their guts out and are supper smart!

Or the cleaners.... they'd be dusting the guts and and are sweeper smart!

Posted by: Redcoat | February 15, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

** Lost Post **

Ben's guy on the freighter is....Michael!

One of those two is in the coffin from season 3 finale.

The final scene in season 3 finale (Kate and Jack at the airport) will also be the last scene in the series finale.

** End Lost **

Posted by: 4-12 | February 15, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Hey Jaradel,

Pays pretty good where i am to.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 15, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

I have a handy adndy little script you can run to check password expirations by OU in Ad and or if they are over 90 days...

yup I am a computer nerd too...

someone posted earlier about powerpoint... Not something I will miss when it is finally time to hang up the old suit and tie...

Posted by: trailblazer658 | February 15, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

I've been reading these blogs since the coaching search beagn, and to this point never chimed in. But having seen Redcoat's movie quote, I couldn't contain myself any longer.

I DIG THE DUDE WHO QUOTES "JOHNNY DANGEROUSLY"!!

Thanks, I'm out!

Posted by: lojack74 | February 15, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Jaradel, I hate to let you down. I have only GED-level education and I never studied Latin. Yet another victim of a truly atrocious work ethic....

But I do seem to have a "supper absorbent" brain that 5) doesn't let me forget things I pick them up as I pass through life, and %) helps me figure out 'how things work' pretty well.

I'm afraid the old noggin also leaks all sorts of odd stuff when squeezed a bit too though! :-)

Most days I feel like I barely hold my own with the folks here, but I do my best.

Posted by: Redcoat | February 15, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Is anyone listening the Redskins Radio? I think Lisa posted it earlier in the week, but just a reminder that Vinny is on the radio taking questions, so call in if you have anything for him.

Posted by: JustMe | February 15, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Hey TB,

Do not be ashamed computer nerds get all the girls.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 15, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Wow, I missed a whole nerd conversation. Bummer.

Lost was brilliant last night, and this season is fantastic thus far. Like I've said before, I think if these guys close out the series with storytelling as good as what we're seeing now, this show will end up in the pantheon of great television. It's a mystery, so the entire series will be cheapened by a bad ending.

Right now, I'm just enjoying the ride and trusting that these producers (among the best working down there right now) know what they're doing.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 15, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Is anyone listening the Redskins Radio? I think Lisa posted it earlier in the week, but just a reminder that Vinny is on the radio taking questions, so call in if you have anything for him.

Posted by: JustMe | February 15, 2008 12:27 PM

Somebody ask him when the DanBot shirts will go on sale.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 15, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Indeed, the nerds have inherited the Earth.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 15, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

I've never watched an episode of Lost. I just couldn't commit to another series (24/Heroes/Office/30 Rock) but hearing you guys talk and after seeing cloverfield, I may have to pick up season 1 so I'll be able to contribute to the Jibba Jabba.

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 15, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Hey PDiddy,

You got alot of nerve talking about Nerds you used the word Pantheon if I was a true nerd I might know what that means. LOL

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 15, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

A guy asked Vinny to please not trade away our draft picks for the next five years for CJ. Vinny didn't seem to enjoy that comment. He basically ignored it. Pretty funny.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 15, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Turning the conversation back to football and our new coach for a moment,since its the only subject up here i have any qualification to comment on....do like the jibba jabba to read though, so by all means please return to your regular scheduled program (s)..... I really don't think Zorn will have much difficulty adjusting to the coaching aspect of coaching as the man in charge, play calling, running practices, game planning etc even game day stuff, time outs, when to go for it , the man played in the league at the most important position and has coached that position (with success) in the league for the last 7 yrs.....his greatest challenges will be getting JC to play like a big time QB and evaluating and helping in evaluate our roster, the draft and FA's .....who to get , and who to cut and keep........ again my premise and total 100% belief is in todays NFL its all about stability first and stabilty is simply having a very good QB, that lends itself to coaching stabilty, which lends itself to a style of play, which lends itself to what kind of players fit our style.....follow....those are the links in the chain......thats as plain and simple as i can make it, now obviously I know and you know that it is all really complex once you start breaking down the game into all the details, but the basis is really fundemental line play both sides and QB play.......

Posted by: Oldschool | February 15, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

OG E...get a DVR/Tivo...it allows you to become the biggest TV sl*t without feeling guilty....

Posted by: chrislarry | February 15, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

OG E...get a DVR/Tivo...it allows you to become the biggest TV sl*t without feeling guilty....


Posted by: chrislarry | February 15, 2008 12:43 PM

He is correct. After I'm finshed with my DVR it throws money at me and kicks me out.

Posted by: sams3 | February 15, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

I will be watching Lost when I get home from work today, I must be getting old can not stay up past 9:00pm anymore.

I want to thank everyone for letting me know what happens I appreciate it. LOL

CL,

My thesis on why I love Dan Snyder is almost complete is it OK if I dedicate it to you? LOL

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 15, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

kmdp4

already took the plunge... I will however admit that in my hayday I was known to bag a few... and yes women do like nerds because they usually have money.

Posted by: trailblazer658 | February 15, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

KM,

I would be honored....

Posted by: chrislarry | February 15, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

TB,

I took the plunge as well but I can still dream about the good old days.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 15, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Hey RC, don't feel bad. One's school career, or lack thereof, is not always a good measure of intelligence. You hold your own just fine up here :)

I missed Lost last night - we promised our 3 year old he could watch the new Charlie Brown Valentine DVD we bought last weekend, so hopefully we can watch it tonight on the DVR after the kids go to bed. I don't mind seeing general Lost jibba jabba, but if you're gonna post a plot point that was revealed last night, please throw out a SPOILER warning so those of us who haven't seen it yet can skip it, kthx :)

Posted by: jaradel | February 15, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

when is the combine?

Posted by: trailblazer658 | February 15, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

ahhh the good ole days...

Posted by: trailblazer658 | February 15, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

The combine is 2/23 - 2/26.

http://www.nfl.com/combine

Posted by: JustMe | February 15, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, it starts 2/20. Workouts begin on 2/23 and will be shown live on NFL Network.

Posted by: JustMe | February 15, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

I believe that the combine is the 23rd of Feb.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 15, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and not all computer nerds get the girls. Some get the guys, too. You'd be surprised how many guys are turned on by a girl who can talk tech.

A guy asked Vinny to please not trade away our draft picks for the next five years for CJ. Vinny didn't seem to enjoy that comment. He basically ignored it. Pretty funny.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 15, 2008 12:39 PM

LMGO! I'm sure Vinny didn't like that comment, since that was his plan all along!

Posted by: jaradel | February 15, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

I'm kind of a draft geek, the NFL Network coverage of the combine is GREAT. They do a really good job with the entire process, from the weigh-in, to the cone drills. Just a great watch.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 15, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

thanks JustMe

Posted by: trailblazer658 | February 15, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

GALLIA est omnis divisa in partes tres, ....

Oops, wrong blog.

Posted by: Markin21132 | February 14, 2008 04:19 PM

"Omnia Gaulia in tres partes divida est."

Verb goes in the back, Big Guy. Three years of Honors Latin and that's all I can remember.

Posted by: corkczar | February 15, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Is anyone listening the Redskins Radio? I think Lisa posted it earlier in the week, but just a reminder that Vinny is on the radio taking questions, so call in if you have anything for him.

Posted by: JustMe | February 15, 2008 12:27 PM

Do I have to ask a question, or can I just start calling him names?

Posted by: redryan400 | February 15, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

I love the NFL Network's coverage of the combine as well. I don't watch much college football, but from watching their coverage of the combine, then Path to the Draft as that event approaches, I pretty much know who's who by the time draft day comes.

Posted by: JustMe | February 15, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Indeed, the nerds have inherited the Earth.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 15, 2008 12:30 PM

Indeedy Diddy...

http://www.eitb24.com/new/en/B24_86768/life/UNBELIEVABLE-Church-of-the-Jedi-reaches-400000-members/

Posted by: 4-12 | February 15, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

If anyone could post some of the radio stuff with Vinny, that would be great.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 15, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Jibba jabba...

GALLIA est omnis divisa in partes tres, ....

Oops, wrong blog.

Posted by: Markin21132 | February 14, 2008 04:19 PM

"Omnia Gaulia in tres partes divida est."

Verb goes in the back, Big Guy. Three years of Honors Latin and that's all I can remember.

Posted by: corkczar | February 15, 2008 01:08 PM

Cork, that's not how Caesar wrote it, though - he wrote it exactly as Markin wrote it:

"Gallia est omnis divisa in partes tres, quarum unam incolunt Belgae, aliam Aquitani, tertiam qui ipsorum lingua Celtae, nostra Galli appellantur. Hi omnes lingua, institutis, legibus inter se differunt."

From what I remember of my 3 years of Latin (one of which was AP, for what it's worth), the placement of the verb with respect to the subject or object was not a big hairy deal. Then again, I have not touched a Latin book in several years (and then only to pack it in a box!), so my memory is bound to be a bit fuzzy on the subject.

Posted by: jaradel | February 15, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

If anyone could post some of the radio stuff with Vinny, that would be great.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 15, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse


But I do seem to have a "supper absorbent" brain that 5) doesn't let me forget things I pick them up as I pass through life, and %) helps me figure out 'how things work' pretty well.--REDCOAT

Try the Scrod. Fish is brain food, particularly good for thos with supper-absorbent brains.

Sorry redcoat, I rarely do typo humor for obvious reasons, But y'know, "supper" and the "Scrod" joke earlier? Hey I'm only human.

I also remembered some more Latin.

Here's a breakdown of the Latin word for "To know"

(I know, you know, he knows)

"Shi-o, Shi-is, Shi-it."

Boy the teaching Jesuits at Chaminade had a giggle doing that one.

Posted by: corkczar | February 15, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

I actually have a DVR and it still has the last 4 episodes from 24 on it that have yet to be watched.

I'm dangerously close to losing my couch potato card...I even started going to the gym.

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 15, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Look at me with the double post....

I'm Greg Marino. People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I enjoy ice cream and a nice pair of slacks. Years later, a doctor will tell me I have an I.Q. of 48 and that I am considered mentally retarded.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 15, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Now you are talking Original_etrod.

Posted by: jm220 | February 15, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Verb goes in the back, Big Guy. Three years of Honors Latin and that's all I can remember.

Posted by: corkczar | February 15, 2008 01:08 PM

Cork, that's not how Caesar wrote it, though - he wrote it exactly as Markin wrote it:

"Gallia est omnis divisa in partes tres, quarum unam incolunt Belgae, aliam Aquitani, tertiam qui ipsorum lingua Celtae, nostra Galli appellantur. Hi omnes lingua, institutis, legibus inter se differunt."--jaradel

YOU'RE WRONG AND HERE"s WHY

I'm old. I was TAUGHT by Caesar, and my way is the way he taught it. Yeah, that's right. I know Caesar. Caesar was a friend of mine, and you are no Julius Caesar.

I think you are quoting Sid Caesar, from "Your Show of Shows." He was a master of Jibberish.

This is good stuff tho. What else can we talk about? Sherman blowing off the skins? How many high picks Snyder will squander with his Blond of the Month trade, now that he's running the show again?

Posted by: corkczar | February 15, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

*****LOST***
the reason why no one can find the island was explained pretty nicely in this episode. what is going to be REALLY REALLY hard to explain is the black smoke. if they can explain black smoke with any sort of competency it will be the best show of my lifetime.

Posted by: dealer | February 15, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Oh yeah, one more thing. GET OFF OF MY LAWN!

Posted by: corkczar | February 15, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Is anyone listening the Redskins Radio? I think Lisa posted it earlier in the week, but just a reminder that Vinny is on the radio taking questions, so call in if you have anything for him.

Posted by: JustMe | February 15, 2008 12:27 PM

Do I have to ask a question, or can I just start calling him names?


Posted by: redryan400 | February 15, 2008 01:14 PM

You're a little late but that would've been hilarious.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 15, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Yes, JM220, I thought you'd be proud. The turning point was when I became etrod220, but not in a good way.

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 15, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Ezekiel 25:17. "The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you."

Jules Winfield

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 15, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

*****LOST***
the reason why no one can find the island was explained pretty nicely in this episode. what is going to be REALLY REALLY hard to explain is the black smoke. if they can explain black smoke with any sort of competency it will be the best show of my lifetime.

Posted by: dealer | February 15, 2008 01:31 PM

Hallucinations due to bad mushrooms. Anyone who remembers the sixties has no trouble with that explanation.

Posted by: corkczar | February 15, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Corkcar, Corky? Perhaps that's a little too familiar, anyway...

I couldn't resist the substitution of 'supper' for 'super' because it's one of the more common unintentional typos on this here blog.

Keep the puns coming!!!

I wish I'd been a studier instead of a jock!!

Posted by: Redcoat | February 15, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Have you seen junior's grades?

Posted by: dlhaze1 | February 15, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

kmdp4 Samual L made that movie with those lines.

Posted by: jm220 | February 15, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

kmdp4 Samual L made that movie with those lines.

Posted by: jm220 | February 15, 2008 01:40 PM

I would say some of the best lines ever uttered in a movie.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 15, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Raise your hand if you drew the Van Halen "VH" on all your notebooks in high school........

Posted by: dlhaze1 | February 15, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

DLHAze you are exposing your age there...

Posted by: trailblazer658 | February 15, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Proud of my age and when I grew up. Now slow down, you're driving WAY too fast. And get off my lawn.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | February 15, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

2 things are for sure in life your going to get older and Vinny Danny are clueless...

Posted by: trailblazer658 | February 15, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

I went to see Colin Hay at Ramshead Live a little while back pretty good show... He is doing solo acoustic now

Posted by: trailblazer658 | February 15, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

dlhaze- Van Halen or Van Hagar?

Sit Down Waldo!

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 15, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

falcons just made a round of cuts, among them algernon crumpler, rod coleman, and byron leftwich. i personally wouldn't mind seeing alge and cooley in a 2-TE set, but he's probably out of our price range for a TE. As for Rod Coleman, then next Corn Griffin maybe...?

Posted by: psps23 | February 15, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Halen

Posted by: dlhaze1 | February 15, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

dl, I was a HUGE VH fan back in the day. Saw them in 1988 on the "Monsters of Rock" tour, couple more times after that as well.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 15, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

I went to see Motorhead at Hammersmith Odeon in 1978.

My ears are still ringing....

Posted by: Redcoat | February 15, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

nevermind, coleman and griff are the same age.

Posted by: psps23 | February 15, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

awwww man I think the clock is slow....

Posted by: chrislarry | February 15, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

hmmmm...after much thought, I don't remember having a notebook to draw band logos on...travelled light through PBHS

Posted by: johndinhouston | February 15, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

I say Young Einstein at a Cineplex Odeon in 1988.

I still hate myself.

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 15, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

I don't feel tardy.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 15, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Crumpler, has had declining stats since the 05 season, and is 30/31 age range, I'd rather give Yodah more touches myself.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 15, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

I saw Monsters of Rock too! At RFK! My only regret was that I didn't at the time care for Metallica, so I stayed out in the parking lot getting wasted until Dokken came out. Bummer. VH was pretty good, but the Scorpions were awesome.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | February 15, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 15, 2008 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Original

you should be ashamed

Posted by: trailblazer658 | February 15, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Just doin what I can to contribute to the Jibba Jabba.

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 15, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

dl, thats so funny. Yeah, this was the 'early' Metallica, before they became more main stream. Was a great show overall...VH played for about 2 hours....

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 15, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Van who?

Just Kidding I heard something abbout those guys on one of those flashback shows on VH1...

Posted by: trailblazer658 | February 15, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Van who?

Just Kidding I heard something about those guys on one of those flashback shows on VH1...

Posted by: trailblazer658 | February 15, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

The only time I saw Van Halen was in 1983 or 84 at the Capital Center. I've read that they sound really good on their current tour.

Posted by: fgtdr | February 15, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

I have no free will.

Posted by: mul | February 15, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

I too heard that they sound good. But Dave pretty much creeps me out now....since about 1991 or so when he tried to get back together with them the 1st time. Man how he fell.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | February 15, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Metallica is still the greatest metal band ever!

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 15, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Seriously though screw Roth and Haggar... Van Halen was at their peak with Mitch Malloy at the helm!!

Posted by: trailblazer658 | February 15, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

AC\DC is the best band I ever saw live, bar none. 1987 in the old Spectrum in Philly. They set the standard to which no band I have seen since can live up to or probably ever will.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | February 15, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat (or anyone else) did you ever catch one of those great Hawkwind shows from back in the 70s? Great stuff, sci-fi heavy metal.

It's no social integrator
It's a one man isolator
It's a back brain stimulator
It's a cerebral vibrator

Those energy stimulators
Turn your eyeballs into craters
But an Orgone Accumulator
Is a superman creator

Posted by: SMACK1 | February 15, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

i'm so booooooooooored

Posted by: psps23 | February 15, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

how is it only 2:30!!!

Posted by: trailblazer658 | February 15, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

the clocks are not moving fast enough for no one today

Posted by: RedDMV | February 15, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat (or anyone else) did you ever catch one of those great Hawkwind shows from back in the 70s? Great stuff, sci-fi heavy metal.

It's no social integrator
It's a one man isolator
It's a back brain stimulator
It's a cerebral vibrator

Those energy stimulators
Turn your eyeballs into craters
But an Orgone Accumulator
Is a superman creator

Posted by: SMACK1 | February 15, 2008 02:30 PM

SMACK, you have just earned my eternal kinship. I am a veteran of many Hawkwind shows, although I missed the mid-70s ones (just too young). I did however see one where the very pneumatic Stacia danced on stage with no clothing a little after their "Warrior at the Edge of Time" period.

I was even one of many who threw (empty) beer cans at Ginger Baker during an interminable drum solo on their 1979 tour.

And my cousin was Robert Calvert's roomie in an asylum after one of his last psychotic breaks....

Small world.

Posted by: Redcoat | February 15, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

More heavy metal thoughts...

Oddly enough my two favorite Black Sabbath albums do not feature Ozzy on vocals.

Born Again - Ian Gillan (the Deep Purple guy)
The Mob Rules - Ronnie James Dio

The most ear piercing permanent brain damage show I ever saw was Judas Priest at the Hollywood (FL) Sportatorium. It was just an auditory bloodfest.

F Ozzy

Posted by: SMACK1 | February 15, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Come on Smack. He brought it with Iron Man.

Posted by: jm220 | February 15, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

haze

same tour boston garden awesome, bon scott rip.....smack a little heaven and hell ....ronnie james dio.....

Posted by: Oldschool | February 15, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse

I never understood all the love for Ozzie.

He's always sounded like Minnie Mouse on helium to me.

Whoever said Scorpions earlier, good call.

Posted by: Redcoat | February 15, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

I love Black Sabbath but not much of an Ozzy fan. Although he had one of the greatest guitarists evr in Randy Rhodes. Tony (Sabbath) wasn't too shabby either.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 15, 2008 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Metallica is still the greatest metal band ever!

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 15, 2008 02:19 PM


Iron Maiden anyone?

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 15, 2008 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Any Ozric Tentacles fans out there?

Actually that's probably way too far out of the mainstream. I'm sorry, I'll get me coat.

Posted by: Redcoat | February 15, 2008 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Bruce Dickinson could belt 'em out

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 15, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Pre or post Bruce Dickinson etrod?

Posted by: Redcoat | February 15, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Just saw Killswitch Engage at Bogart's in Cincinnati- talk about LOUD!

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 15, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat, Magnu is probably the most awesomest song ever. Love that album.

Back around 1987 Hawkwind played at the old 9:30 Club. I got backstage by cleverly telling the bouncer that I wanted to go backstage. I smoked a doobie with Dave Brock, my girlfriend at the time, and an anonymous blind guy. I told Dave to sing all the songs but he just said, "I lose my voice, mate". A very sad moment in my life. Another girl I knew, very hot and smart, wanted to be a Hawkwind groupie but "they were just all too ugly". Dave Brock, Alan Davey, and some elf on drums named Richard.

Actually, Nik Turner shows were better.

Posted by: SMACK1 | February 15, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Still waiting on Smith [David Elfin]


Contrary to some photo captions, Sherman Smith is still an employee of the Tennessee Titans, not the Washington Redskins.


It seems Smith and his boss of 13 years, Titans coach Jeff Fisher, are meeting now in Nashville. Smith is believed to be seeking Fisher's blessing to take the job as offensive coordinator in Washington under his old Seattle backfield mate, Jim Zorn.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 15, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

AC/DC is my favorite rock band. Saw them in the 80's also, great show.

Posted by: fgtdr | February 15, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

I remember Iron Maiden being part of the 'New Wave of British Heavy Metal' back circa 1977, along with Def Leppard, Saxon and a bunch of bands no-one ever heard from again.

Those were fun times, I'd would go metal concerts full of long-hairs like me with friends who were full-on punks, complete with safety pins hanging from every part of their faces and everyone would just go nuts. And then we'd go see 'SPOTS' or The Clash or The Damned someone and it would be the other way around, but with spitting!

And beer. Lots of beer. Always.

No wonder my hearing sucks now.

Posted by: Redcoat | February 15, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

For AC/DC fans:

Bon Scott or Brian Johnson?

Posted by: fgtdr | February 15, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

As far as punk goes I always gravitated more towards The Misfits, The Ramones, and Black Flag.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 15, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat - Doesn't matter.
fgtdr - Brian Johnson.

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 15, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Magnu, wow. That needs to go on my MP3 for when I'm running. Those tours were great because they had money - for a while.

So you missed the whole 'Hawklords' thing then? They tried to change to a punk band for about 2 months!! in 1977 or so. They actually weren't bad but it was funny to see all the hippies booing them at the gigs!!

I played pinball with Lemmy and Nik Turner once after a Hawkwind gig in London when they both got up on stage and played with them for a while for old-time's sake.

Lemmy is a majorly cool guy. Nik is, well, different.


"Solitary Ashtray" SMACK?

Posted by: Redcoat | February 15, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Punk - Dead Kennedys, Bad Religion and the Clash are bands of choice.

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 15, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Seahawks hire Lazor as quarterbacks coach

SeattleNews Tribune news services

Published: February 15th, 2008 01:00 AM

The Seattle Seahawks named former Washington Redskins quarterbacks coach Bill Lazor to replace the departed Jim Zorn in the same capacity, the team announced Thursday.
Also, the Seahawks signed guard Mike Wahle to a five-year contract. Wahle, a two-time Pro Bowl selection, started 16 games for the Carolina Panthers in 2007. Lazor will begin his sixth NFL season in 2008 after spending four years with Washington, serving his final two as quarterbacks coach. He began his Redskins career as an offensive assistant in 2004 after a season with the Atlanta Falcons.

Before breaking into the NFL, Lazor was an offensive coordinator/quarterbacks coach for the University of Buffalo from 2001 to '02. He began his coaching career at his alma mater, Cornell, as both an assistant and recruiting coordinator from 1998 to 2000.

While at Cornell, Lazor set 26 school passing and total offensive records.

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 15, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

No Circle Jerks? Dead Milkmen?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 15, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Rollins Band!

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 15, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Skinz | February 15, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Any Ozric Tentacles fans out there?

Actually that's probably way too far out of the mainstream. I'm sorry, I'll get me coat.

Posted by: Redcoat | February 15, 2008 02:48 PM

The Ozric Tentacles follow me around. Doesn't matter where I am. Cleveland, Wien, Munich. It only bothers me a little bit.

Posted by: SMACK1 | February 15, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Never bought an AC/DC album after "If you want blood..."

Wow, was that 30 years ago!!

Posted by: Redcoat | February 15, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

I wish the Skins had taken a look at Wahle. I was unaware he made the pro-bowl couple times...

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 15, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse

For AC/DC fans:

Bon Scott or Brian Johnson?

Posted by: fgtdr | February 15, 2008 02:54 PM
hard to choose....let's just say Johnson was the best and only possible replacement. No drop off at all, and I think they got better instrumentally.

Sirius 19 (Buzzsaw) is playing song remains the same right now. Love it!!!

Posted by: dlhaze1 | February 15, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

How about Therapy?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Therapy%3F

Troublegum is one of the scariest (best) heavy rock/punks albums I've ever heard.

Posted by: Redcoat | February 15, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Skinz, can you para-phrase for me?

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 15, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

The Ozric Tentacles follow me around. Doesn't matter where I am. Cleveland, Wien, Munich. It only bothers me a little bit.

Posted by: SMACK1 | February 15, 2008 03:05 PM

An old school friend of mine played drums for them very briefly, and my eldest daughter (seriously) still does her fire-eating act to "Eternal Wheel".

Posted by: Redcoat | February 15, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

After the big hair days, and maybe not really Heavy Metal but....

Tool.

Posted by: shaunsherman12 | February 15, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Just showing my age:

I saw AC/DC at the Cap Centre in 1977.
The only thing is, no one had heard of them. I was told at the time that Angus Young was like 15 years old.

They were the warm up group for the hottest band in the land....KISS!

Posted by: youcrew | February 15, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

I guess that should have been "Munchen" if I was gonna sound like a real-city-naming-dbag.

With beer.

Posted by: SMACK1 | February 15, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Greg,

Just goes into the fact that we are the only franchise over the cap and breaks down averages over the cap since '94.

Pre Snyder it was like 1.3 mil per year.

With Snyder it's alot more.

Tries to make the point that spending doesn't = winning and says that Danny needs to keep his wallet in his pocket.

Posted by: Skinz | February 15, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Just showing my age:

I saw AC/DC at the Cap Centre in 1977.
The only thing is, no one had heard of them. I was told at the time that Angus Young was like 15 years old.

They were the warm up group for the hottest band in the land....KISS!

Posted by: youcrew | February 15, 2008 03:14 PM

I assume they were a pleasant surprise?

Posted by: dlhaze1 | February 15, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

** Actual football related post from me for once **

From 4th's article above...how could the Seahawks have already signed Wahle if he "started 16 games for Carolina in 2007?" Free agency is still several weeks away.

* End football **

Posted by: 4-12 | February 15, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Skinz....

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 15, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Not sure if this has been posted yet.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=sando_mike&id=3247587

Posted by: Skinz | February 15, 2008 03:03 PM

I read it and don't get his point. The REdskin bashing on the salary cap is old to me now.........

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 15, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone else own a 12" remix of "I was made for lovin' you" - the Kiss 'disco' record? It's actually the only Kiss record I ever bought because my then girlfriend liked it.

What the h*ll was I thinking?

Posted by: Redcoat | February 15, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

For AC/DC fans:

Bon Scott or Brian Johnson?

Posted by: fgtdr | February 15, 2008 02:54 PM
hard to choose....let's just say Johnson was the best and only possible replacement. No drop off at all, and I think they got better instrumentally.

Sirius 19 (Buzzsaw) is playing song remains the same right now. Love it!!!

Posted by: dlhaze1 | February 15, 2008 03:09 PM


Agreed, don't know if I could really pick one over the other. Great band with either one.

Posted by: fgtdr | February 15, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

damn, sando's getting in on snyder on espn.com

"If the Washington Post's sources are correct, the Redskins will make a run at Cincinnati's Chad Johnson. While the Bengals insist their leading receiver is not available, the Redskins do not discourage easily. In 2006, they committed $10 million in bonuses to Brandon Lloyd after acquiring him from San Francisco for third- and fourth-round draft choices.

Imagine what the Redskins might offer for a receiver who actually can play.

Lloyd might have become an All-Pro if he could have drawn Adam Archuleta exclusively in coverage. Archuleta, effective as an in-the-box safety early in his career, collected $5 million in bonus money from the Redskins in 2006 before the team realized almost immediately that he wasn't right for their defense."

gotta say, it's tough to disagree with him there.

Posted by: psps23 | February 15, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

4-12, I think the Panthers cut Wahle, which is a different scenario from going into free agency, if that makes sense...

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 15, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

** Actual football related post from me for once **

From 4th's article above...how could the Seahawks have already signed Wahle if he "started 16 games for Carolina in 2007?" Free agency is still several weeks away.

* End football **

Posted by: 4-12 | February 15, 2008 03:18 PM

Glad you asked!

If you have atleast 5 vested years in the NF of L, and a team cuts you after the season, that player does not have to clear waivers to hit the market.......

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 15, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

D'oh. Of course Greg. The Panthers cut him. F me.

Posted by: 4-12 | February 15, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

I read it and don't get his point. The REdskin bashing on the salary cap is old to me now.........

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 15, 2008 03:18 PM

His point is he is a talking head.

It's really funny how Washington is so financially stupid yet they always get whoever they want in free agency and never loose any big names to free agency. Meanwhile the Coltsand various other teams routinely either loose or look as though they are going to lose top notch players. Cato June, EJames ect.

Before anyone says DDockery, he was worth about 7 million and the bills decided to give him 20 billion. That isn't losing a player that is being smart.

Posted by: sams3 | February 15, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

gotta say, it's tough to disagree with him there.

Posted by: psps23 | February 15, 2008 03:20 PM

I think he accurately captured the consensus of Redskins Insider, but he was so boring. He's not as articulate, subtle, or as thoughtful as RI, and that's not a particularly high standard. Do you think he gets paid by ESPN?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 15, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

gotta say, it's tough to disagree with him there.

Posted by: psps23 | February 15, 2008 03:20 PM

That was cheap shot. The real proof should be the link below. Not many (3) Reskins players on the list. Everyone is getting PAID in the NF of L. The media mostly picks on us because of recent past mistakes. Other teams have made mistakes as well (GMen picking up Lavar Last year was one).....

http://www.nflpa.org/pdfs/NewsAndEvents/HotTopics/FranchiseAndTransition_2008.pdf

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 15, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Jinx

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 15, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Do you think he gets paid by ESPN?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 15, 2008 03:34 PM

Judging by the amount of hairgel he is using in that picture, someone must be paying him.

Posted by: sams3 | February 15, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

4thFloor, you hit it right on the head. The redskins so horribly overpay yet only 3 are on the list of the top paid players at the position. A little counterintuitive if you ask me.

Posted by: sams3 | February 15, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

POSTED 3:41 p.m. EST, February 15, 2008

CHIEFS TO CUT LAW

A league source tells us that the Kansas City Chiefs soon will be releasing veteran cornerback Ty Law.

Law, 33, was cut by the Patriots in February 2005. He played for the Jets that year, and then signed with the Chiefs in 2006.

Signed through 2010, Law is due to earn a base salary of $6.5 million in the coming season.

From PFT.com

Whadaya think? I say pick him up!

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 15, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

is it "tomorrow" yet???

Posted by: deadskin | February 15, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Was there anything interesting in the Cerrato broadcast today? Did Lisa put him on the spot?

And, where do we stand with Sherman Smith? The Post today said he would be OC, but there hasn't been an announcement, has there?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 15, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Whadaya think? I say pick him up!

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 15, 2008 03:42 PM

Don't think it owuld be too bad if we could get him.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 15, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Whadaya think? I say pick him up!

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 15, 2008 03:42 PM

Cool 4th, your starting corners could have a combined age of 66 next season - that must be an NFL record!! ;-)

Posted by: Redcoat | February 15, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

4th are you serious? Did you not read the part of that article where it stated his age?

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 15, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

I think 4th was funning with you Greg.

Posted by: Redcoat | February 15, 2008 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Whadaya think? I say pick him up!

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 15, 2008 03:42 PM

I say, he is a great player but he is 33. God for bid anyone with ability but is 33 and doesn't pan out to be a hall of famer while in DC. The water works and the Chris Burman style "The Redskins only take washed up players" comments will start pouring in.

Posted by: sams3 | February 15, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

4th's Surprises from 2008 Salaries:

1. TOM BRADY WAS NOT A TOP 10 COMPENSATED QB
2. Ray Lewis almost brought in $10Mil for a season.
3. Champ only brought in $5.4Mil and is only 9th on the list for CBs
4. Dockery got paid more than Samuels in 2007.
5. Warren Sapp is getting paid as if he was the same player from 1999.
6. Vick spent half of the season in Jail and still made more than Tom Brady!
7. Adam Archuletta was the highest paid S in 07.
8. Someone is actually paying a kicker $3.26 Mil to kick??!?!
9. What is Chad Johnson complaining about again???
10. TO's salary for the year was $9,666,666. Coincidence? Is Dameon the name on his birth certificate?

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 15, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Ah...thanks rc....sometimes I have a tendency to run a little hot....it be the Boston in me.....

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 15, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

That was cheap shot. The real proof should be the link below. Not many (3) Reskins players on the list. Everyone is getting PAID in the NF of L. The media mostly picks on us because of recent past mistakes. Other teams have made mistakes as well (GMen picking up Lavar Last year was one).....

http://www.nflpa.org/pdfs/NewsAndEvents/HotTopics/FranchiseAndTransition_2008.pdf

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 15, 2008 03:34 PM

We are 20 mill over the cap.

I will say that the first year we brought in Very Good FA. Last year was outstanding. Our late round draft picks and practice squad players have been very good the last 2 years as well.

We will see if, without 'Gibbs', we go back to our old ways.

Posted by: mul | February 15, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

I think 4th was funning with you Greg.

Posted by: Redcoat | February 15, 2008 03:49 PM

I was NOT kidding.

Ofcourse we wouldn't pay him top $$. If he wants a payday he can move to another team. But, if wants to contribute to a winner, then come on for a reduced salary.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 15, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

mulberry, I don't think we're still 20MM over the 2008 cap. Some of the cap-easing contract restructuring has already occurred.

It's probably more like, oh, 12MM...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 15, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

I didn't realize he was that old but if he wants to play cheap (ha,ha) then we could use someone until Rogers is up to full speed.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 15, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

In this league, you can never have enough quality CBs, and Law could make the transition to safety if you wanted to go that way.
But I doubt the price would be reasonable... I'll continue to push for a CB/punt returner with the #21 pick...

Posted by: daggar | February 15, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

mulberry, I don't think we're still 20MM over the 2008 cap. Some of the cap-easing contract restructuring has already occurred.

It's probably more like, oh, 12MM...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 15, 2008 03:59 PM

we're actually down to $7-8 mil

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 15, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

I think it was $7M or so last mention Nate....

Why would Law (33) come to DC 'cheap' when Springs (33) is getting $7.5M this year 4th?

I get what you're saying but it's not like you can guarantee being a 'winner' as you said above.

Posted by: Redcoat | February 15, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

The official (ha) capologist has us $3.8M over the cap as of today.

Posted by: daggar | February 15, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

I think you're missing an 'r' from that guy's title cload....

Posted by: Redcoat | February 15, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

I assume they were a pleasant surprise?

Posted by: dlhaze1 | February 15, 2008 03:17 PM


Absolutely! Angus got up on Bon Scott's shoulders with a wireless guitar. They walked around the entire floor of the Capital Centre while jammin'.

Gene and Co. were pretty impressive back in the day as well.

Posted by: youcrew | February 15, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Not sure if this has been posted yet.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=sando_mike&id=3247587

Posted by: Skinz | February 15, 2008 03:03 PM

I read it and don't get his point. The REdskin bashing on the salary cap is old to me now.........

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 15, 2008 03:18 PM

I feel the same way...also tired of the old owner and vinny bashing...not saying they are rght or doing a great job...saying I'm tired of reading the negativity with that subject...Start discussing the team itself and whats next.

Posted by: leevi98 | February 15, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

You must remember, they haven't handled the Brunell/Lloyd contracts, yet.

Also, they can designate up to 2 players as post June 1st cuts. We haven't cut anyone of significance, yet, though......

RC - You're right. I'm just showing my offseason positive attitude. We are all winners at this moment, even the Dolphins! I think Springs Cap figure is only $7.5M this year. His base salary is lower, I believe....

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 15, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

(Ahem!)
Hey Mr Smith. It's tomorrow.
What's the word?

Posted by: _Stumped_ | February 15, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

You must remember, they haven't handled the Brunell/Lloyd contracts, yet

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 15, 2008 04:08 PM

$th...would it be cheaper or better for the team cap wise...to get both Mark and BL to take a smaller deal instead of just releasing them? Just have for depth? Is Mark a FA that does not count or is he still under contract?

Posted by: leevi98 | February 15, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

We are all winners at this moment, even the Dolphins!

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 15, 2008 04:08 PM

Amen to that 4th. Wiht Zach gone the Fins are now just on $40M under - I wish I knew what they are going to do with it!!

It would make sense to me to go for Law if you think you're 'close' or if you're really unsure as to whether Carlos will be effective at all this year, he could give you one good year.

But he would still cost a pretty penny and you probably have other more pressing needs, n'est pas?

Posted by: Redcoat | February 15, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

You know Lloyd won't agree to any restructuring.

I def think that Mark would restructure ONLY if he gets to be the back-up. We will need to soon discuss the LTBE and ULTBE incentives again (Nate or Sween remember that conversation last offseason??) I can really see that happening.......

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 15, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

You know Lloyd won't agree to any restructuring.

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 15, 2008 04:13 PM

Why not? Lloyd would probably agree to anything that will give him a payday. I can't imagine that he will have any offers outside the Redskins.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 15, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: _Stumped_ | February 15, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

OK watching Vinny on Comcast

He said we like draft picks but you need some FA.

Said most luck in FA were when coaches knew the players before hand.

Sounds right to me.

Posted by: mul | February 15, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

It's no social integrator
It's a one man isolator
It's a back brain stimulator
It's a cerebral vibrator

Those energy stimulators
Turn your eyeballs into craters
But an Orgone Accumulator
Is a superman creator

Reads like Dylan outtakes

Posted by: corkczar | February 15, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

I dont care if lloyd wants to restructure! A restructure usually involves extending a players contract and offering some sort of bonus... I dont know how others feel about the Receiver but personally he makes me sick... Falling asleep during team meetings and showing up late when your headed for an away game... I don't want him on the team so whatever it takes get rid of him...

Posted by: trailblazer658 | February 15, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

4th,
The answer to your Brunnell question is locked in Jim Zorn's brain. He probably already knows what he wants to do with MB.

(maybe this was one of the hard-ball interview questions, besides what should the new team colors be)

Posted by: _Stumped_ | February 15, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

So Dan Marino was one pick from being a Redskin? I was nearly a Skins fan then!

Posted by: Redcoat | February 15, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

It's almost 5, Dan. Do you know where your OC is?

Posted by: corkczar | February 15, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

He said Rocky is doing Great.

Does not seem like CR is doing as well.

Also listed DT, CB, DE as big needs.

La Var out of the question.

Posted by: mul | February 15, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

RC - Agreed!

T_E - Someone will sign him.

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 15, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Thinks he was and will be held accountable for moves in the past. (does not sound good)

We learn from mistakes.

Said we knew guys well we did well in FA.

--- I think this means Seattle peeps and Tenn peeps.

Posted by: mul | February 15, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

I dunno, maybe Zorno and the new offensive coaches can turn things around with BLloyd, make him into a contributing player. Like, he gets a change of scenery without leaving home.

It's not impossible, and maybe it would be cheaper to keep him than to cut him.

I'm just sayin'...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 15, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

So Dan Marino was one pick from being a Redskin? I was nearly a Skins fan then!
Posted by: Redcoat | February 15, 2008 04:26 PM

Yep, almost seems unfair that the 2 teams in the superbowl from 82, with the last 2 picks in the first round the next year got Marino and Darrell Green. But that's what a good GM will do for you I guess.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | February 15, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Mind you with Gibbs' legendary reluctance to play young QB's Dan probably wouldn't have been the Redskin's starter until Gibbs 2.0!

Posted by: Redcoat | February 15, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Did not seem like Sweed or Malcom (sp) are going to be drafted by us Malcom > 21 - Sweed injured a lot so he does not know, maybe 2nd round.

Posted by: mul | February 15, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

I was thinking the same thing Nate. He seemed to flourish in the West Coast offense out there in San Fran as well....well I'm assuming they still run the west coast.

Posted by: Skinz | February 15, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Also listed DT, CB, DE as big needs.

Posted by: mul | February 15, 2008 04:27 PM

Interesting that all the needs are on D. Implies that GWill did a damn good coaching job last year. Would be (have been) curious as to what made he/Dan decide against GWill as HC. Was the decision based on the results of his first stint as HC in Buffalo, friction/problems incurred during his stint as Skins defensive coordinator, or the belief that better HC candidates we available for the position?

Adam

Posted by: argh | February 15, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Well, if Vinny doesn't bet the farm (or break the bank) on WR, I'll be impressed.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | February 15, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Vinny said he would like Todd back.

Rock - could not tell from Vinny maybe going to test FA market.

Posted by: mul | February 15, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

I dunno, maybe Zorno and the new offensive coaches can turn things around with BLloyd, make him into a contributing player. Like, he gets a change of scenery without leaving home.

It's not impossible, and maybe it would be cheaper to keep him than to cut him.

I'm just sayin'...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 15, 2008 04:30 PM

And I'm sayin' you must have had a 3 martini lunch

Adam

Posted by: argh | February 15, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

I dunno, maybe Zorno and the new offensive coaches can turn things around with BLloyd, make him into a contributing player. Like, he gets a change of scenery without leaving home.

It's not impossible, and maybe it would be cheaper to keep him than to cut him.

I'm just sayin'...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 15, 2008 04:30 PM

Maybe they can build a recording studio at Redskins Park. at least then you'tt have a better chance of having him around when he's supposed to be.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 15, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Asked about TJ gave normal answer.

Said Kendall(sp) was good, we are giving up a 5th round.

(Our 4th round we lost this year was for TJ not Kendall)

Posted by: mul | February 15, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Nate, you sound like me 8 months ago.

(beep beep)

Posted by: _Stumped_ | February 15, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Peeb Peeb

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 15, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

He did not blow off the CJ question, but he can't talk about players under contract.

Posted by: mul | February 15, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

thanks for the updates guys, really appreciate it.

As far as Rock is concerned, if he wants a reasonable deal for a kick returner, then I'm all for him coming back, but if he gets crazy in what he wants, buh-bye....

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 15, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

It's really funny how Washington is so financially stupid yet they always get whoever they want in free agency and never loose any big names to free agency. --Sams3

You are familiar, perhaps with the expression, "Be careful what you wish for?"

Posted by: corkczar | February 15, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

why does everyone keep asking who the OC is?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/14/AR2008021403526_2.html

This was posted earlier

Posted by: byThorbyOdin | February 15, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

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