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Smoot: Hailin' Hall, Hatin' on Dallas

Presenting Fred Smoot's likes and, um, dislikes -- the DeAngelo Hall acquisition and the Dallas Cowboys -- as told to Dan Steinberg Tuesday.

By Cindy Boren  |  November 12, 2008; 9:26 AM ET
 
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Has anyone fed OG Barno his Kibbles N' Bits this morning ?

Posted by: dspinx | November 12, 2008 9:37 AM | Report abuse

What the heck is Lavar Burton mouthing off to a retired legend for ? For what purpose ? He needs to go back to doing Reading Rainbow kids shows.

And someone get Mike Sellers 6-7 carries against the Cowpies Sunday please. Preferably in the 1st half to soften those Girls up.

Posted by: dspinx | November 12, 2008 9:39 AM | Report abuse

The league of "stroginary" gentilemen. Love it. Fred has been a part of some of the deepest secondary teams we have ever had. I love that Green "sat him down" to explain the rivalry, and how seriously the team takes these games, Smoot brings up a great point that durring these games in both cities the fans for both teams show up.

Posted by: alex35332 | November 12, 2008 9:41 AM | Report abuse

Due to the current economic situation, the players have been asked to help out. so it was nice of Fred to take the time out from his FedEx route to answer some questions.

Posted by: daggar | November 12, 2008 9:42 AM | Report abuse

Anyone else feel like when the players started takeing the rivalry seriously was when we started wining against Dallas? And when we hear that cowboys players don't care about it as much they lost it more?

Posted by: alex35332 | November 12, 2008 9:43 AM | Report abuse

daggar @ 9:42 AM
LMAO

Posted by: alex35332 | November 12, 2008 9:45 AM | Report abuse

Love Smoot. So glad the Redskins got him. Twice. Even worth sitting through that bizarre commercial for four minutes of Smoot.

Q: How much did Fed Ex pay the Post to use their truck as the backdrop for that interview? And where was that and why was the stupid truck there so long and what were those people milling around the truck for?

Still shocked that Skippy = Corkczar. Can't get my head around it.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 12, 2008 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Alex,

I think the period where Dallas won 14 of 15 is when our players started hating them and they became apathetic toward us. It always means more to the underdog. I think it's starting to heat up now that we've taken 5 of 7 from them and we're going to get a stroginary effort from the Cowboys. this week.

Posted by: Original_etrod | November 12, 2008 9:48 AM | Report abuse

alex35332 - Disagree completely. 3rd & long is precisely the area where I'd want Horton's ballhawking skills. This team already generates few turnovers, and to sit back and play it safe during the offense's most vulnerable situations is the last thing I'd want to do. The smart thing to do is, sad to say it, leave Smoot as the odd man out. If it's the nickel package, the 5 best DBs would be Landry, Horton, Rogers, Springs, and Hall. If it's the dime, add Smoot to the end. Springs should be a CB either way.

Besides, I hate the whole "play it safe" thing anyway. I cringe when people give the excuse, "oh, you only scored on us because we went into the prevent". It's the dumbest defense, and should only be left, literally, for hail mary plays.

Posted by: psps23

Posted by: psps23 | November 12, 2008 9:51 AM | Report abuse

At 9:42, Daggar shoots and scores.

Posted by: CindyBoren | November 12, 2008 9:54 AM | Report abuse

Smoot is crazy!

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | November 12, 2008 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, alex, I cringed when I read your "play it safe on 3rd and long." I thought "wow, this is exactly what Coach Gibbs used to do -- on offense and defense." I hated it then and I hate it when Zorn does it. The only time for "playing it safe" is when we're up by 21 points in the fourth quarter.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 12, 2008 10:01 AM | Report abuse

Skippy wasn't/isn't a real, honest to goodness RI poster? I'm shocked, I tell you, shocked!

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | November 12, 2008 10:06 AM | Report abuse

Just read the ESPN piece on LaVar Arrington.

I had no idea he was so bitter. Perhaps sitting next to B. Mitch, the bitterness rubs off.

I hope he is able to get past it one day.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | November 12, 2008 10:18 AM | Report abuse

I guess I should have emphacized more that I want smarter guys out there on 3rd down, over safe, I want the D off the field as often as possible, so I would rather have more Vets out there who know whats about to happen over a young guy who may miss a asignment.

Posted by: alex35332 | November 12, 2008 10:20 AM | Report abuse

Just read the ESPN piece on LaVar Arrington.
I had no idea he was so bitter. Perhaps sitting next to B. Mitch, the bitterness rubs off.
I hope he is able to get past it one day.
Posted by: MrRedskin21
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Well the ownership screwed him over bad at one point, I understand why he is bitter. Not to mention he had arguable the worst agents in the history of the NFL.

Posted by: alex35332 | November 12, 2008 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Could someone paste that Lavar Arrington article? ESPN is blocked in my building...

I know it's old news (Is the article old?), but today is soooooooo damn boring... I'll read warranties for toolboxes if it makes the day go by any faster.

Posted by: RedDMV | November 12, 2008 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Well the ownership screwed him over bad at one point, I understand why he is bitter. Not to mention he had arguable the worst agents in the history of the NFL.

Posted by: alex35332 | November 12, 2008 10:29 AM |

Tell me how they screwed him over, and do not give me the contract sh!t if his agent did not read the contract that is on him.

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 12, 2008 10:34 AM | Report abuse

So my co worker gave me a map of the middle east and said, "can you remove this border here for me from this map?"
Idicating a boundry between North Yemen and Yemen. I replied, I feel like England after World War 1.

Posted by: alex35332 | November 12, 2008 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Skippy wasn't/isn't a real, honest to goodness RI poster? I'm shocked, I tell you, shocked!

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | November 12, 2008 10:06 AM |

Now that's an interesting concept, JohnD: "honest to goodness RI poster." I think he was as "honest to goodness" as the rest of us, except that he used multiple fake names when he could get away with it. Didn't we all?

The surprise is that one of his multiple fake names was "Corkczar" and not, say, Redcoat, dcsween, or JohnDinHouston. And John Din Houston is as fake as the rest of the fake names. I just looked it up on Google and look what I got back: No results found for "John Din Houston". This name doesn't exist even in World of Warcraft.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 12, 2008 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Dallas week and we're going to have the LaVar debate again? Lay off it. We all know how that one starts and ends. "Agree to disagree."

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 12, 2008 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 12, 2008 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Agreed Flounder. The contract squabble was on his agent, who, if I remember correctly, was suspended for a while because of this.

Lavar needs to move on....what did he think he was going to accomplish by calling Gibbs a coward? Some guys just CRAVE the limelight, even if it means they have to say something stupid to get it.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | November 12, 2008 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Arrington has harsh words for Gibbs, Snyder in interview
ESPN.com news services

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Former NFL linebacker LaVar Arrington has no love lost for former Washington Redskins head coach Joe Gibbs or team owner Daniel Snyder.
The always-blunt Arrington had harsh words for both -- and others -- in an interview published in the Washington Times.
"I called Joe Gibbs a coward for leaving," Arrington said in the Times interview. "You came in, you made some money for your NASCAR team. No one else is going to say that. I'm sure more people thought I was a [jerk] for saying that. Joe wouldn't call me because he knows. There are a lot of people who know the truth about what went down with me and the Redskins."
Gibbs retired for a second time from the Redskins in January.
Arrington left the Redskins in February 2006 after injuries slowed him. He signed with the New York Giants and played two months there before a ruptured Achilles tendon in October ended his career.
In 2007, he was involved in a serious motorcycle accident, but survived.
He says he has a strained relationship with Snyder.
"I think Dan Snyder is scared to death of me," Arrington said in the Times. "He won't look at me. I tried to shake his hand at [a] luncheon. He shook my hand and was like, 'How you doing, LaVar?' and kept moving. I'm probably the only person that's ever stood up to him and never backed down."
He said he tried to reach out to Snyder after the death of Sean Taylor a year ago, but was rebuffed.
"I root for the Redskins because how I feel about the fans outweighs how the organization treated me. I always take pleasure in taking jabs at Dan because people like him need that. There's got to be a person out there who's not afraid to do it."
The Times said Snyder was traveling last week and couldn't be reached for comment.
Arrington feuded with Redskins defensive coordinator Gregg Williams in 2005, his final full season. In the Times interview, he said: "If Gregg hadn't been corrupted by the front office agenda, I probably would've had a hell of a year with him, but there were too many hidden agendas for me to be successful in that regime."
Arrington told the paper he has patched up his relationship with Williams.
Arrington is now the owner of an Annapolis, Md., sports bar. He played in 85 NFL games, picking up 411 career tackles and 23½ sacks.

Posted by: BC1963 | November 12, 2008 10:39 AM | Report abuse

RedDMV, here it is:

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Former NFL linebacker LaVar Arrington has no love lost for former Washington Redskins head coach Joe Gibbs or team owner Daniel Snyder.
The always-blunt Arrington had harsh words for both -- and others -- in an interview published in the Washington Times.

"I called Joe Gibbs a coward for leaving," Arrington said in the Times interview. "You came in, you made some money for your NASCAR team. No one else is going to say that. I'm sure more people thought I was a [jerk] for saying that. Joe wouldn't call me because he knows. There are a lot of people who know the truth about what went down with me and the Redskins."
Gibbs retired for a second time from the Redskins in January.

Arrington left the Redskins in February 2006 after injuries slowed him. He signed with the New York Giants and played two months there before a ruptured Achilles tendon in October ended his career.

In 2007, he was involved in a serious motorcycle accident, but survived.

He says he has a strained relationship with Snyder.

"I think Dan Snyder is scared to death of me," Arrington said in the Times. "He won't look at me. I tried to shake his hand at [a] luncheon. He shook my hand and was like, 'How you doing, LaVar?' and kept moving. I'm probably the only person that's ever stood up to him and never backed down."

He said he tried to reach out to Snyder after the death of Sean Taylor a year ago, but was rebuffed.

"I root for the Redskins because how I feel about the fans outweighs how the organization treated me. I always take pleasure in taking jabs at Dan because people like him need that. There's got to be a person out there who's not afraid to do it."

The Times said Snyder was traveling last week and couldn't be reached for comment.

Arrington feuded with Redskins defensive coordinator Gregg Williams in 2005, his final full season. In the Times interview, he said: "If Gregg hadn't been corrupted by the front office agenda, I probably would've had a hell of a year with him, but there were too many hidden agendas for me to be successful in that regime."

Arrington told the paper he has patched up his relationship with Williams.

Arrington is now the owner of an Annapolis, Md., sports bar. He played in 85 NFL games, picking up 411 career tackles and 23½ sacks.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | November 12, 2008 10:40 AM | Report abuse

Well the contract thing is the reason he felt screwed over. I think his agents are more at fault, but I have to wonder what the Skins were trying to do not putting that 5 million in there in a faxed copy when it was in the original one they had read over.

Its clear that there is a lot of stuff that goes on in redskins park that we are not privy too, which Arrington aleged in his recent coments. And you always here Sports DJ's and other ex players reffering to some weird stuff going on in the front office. I dunno why someone does not come out with everything and just be done with it.

Posted by: alex35332 | November 12, 2008 10:45 AM | Report abuse

I never saw anybody from the team refute LaVar's claim that the parties had verbally agreed to a bonus which the team then omitted from the contract.

The fact that his agent did not notice that said bonus was not in the contract WAS a grievous oversight. But I firmly believe that the original sin here was the team's omission of the agreed-to bonus.

Why they did that to their most popular player is a mystery. Why they didn't take steps to address the issue -- I'm no contract lawyer, but it occurs to me that they could have, say, written another contract with the agreed-to bonus included! -- is a mystery.

So yes, the agent was a dope... but the villain of the piece was and remains the front office.

Not trying to justify LaVar's latest rant, just trying to provide my view of that contract flap way back when, based on all the stuff I've heard.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | November 12, 2008 10:45 AM | Report abuse

No results found for "John Din Houston". This name doesn't exist even in World of Warcraft.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 12, 2008 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Hilarious

Posted by: Gweez | November 12, 2008 10:46 AM | Report abuse

I just sent out an email to my whole address book so I spammed a few of you peeps. Apologize for the inconvenience.

Posted by: Original_etrod | November 12, 2008 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Great minds, Alex, great minds...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | November 12, 2008 10:47 AM | Report abuse

I remember Lavar lamenting at Taylor's funeral that he needed to heal.

So much for healing.

Posted by: shaunsherman12 | November 12, 2008 10:48 AM | Report abuse

Yes I also think coward is a bit harsh to say about Gibbs. Did the game pass him buy, yes. But the man was still a great leaders and righted the ship in his time here.

Posted by: alex35332 | November 12, 2008 10:49 AM | Report abuse

The irony is that all three current starting LBs - London Fletcher, Marcus Washington and Rocky McIntosh - are better than LaVar ever was.

Probably because they actually do their assignments instead of freelancing.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | November 12, 2008 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Shoutouts to BC1963 & MrRedskin21, thanks.

While I agree that LaVar holds a grudge longer than a disgruntled housewife, I do agree with him about Gibbs; with the exception of the "Coward" remark.

I honestly believe that Joe Gibbs only came back to get paid and be Snyder's fall guy. Gibbs needed money for NASCAR and wanted to ensure that his family will be set for years to come. Having Gibbs at head coach Snyder knew if this team started to play poorly fans would be a little more patient.

He was right.

I respect Joe Gibbs a whole lot, but it's obvious that his heart wasn't in it the second time around. But still kudos to him for fullflling 80% of his contract.

The thing is that all of it is old news. Arrington, Gibbs, and whatever beef LaVar had with those guys.

It's so cool not to live in the past.

Posted by: RedDMV | November 12, 2008 10:52 AM | Report abuse

As I recently told a friend, for whom this week is often tough as a great many people in his life died this time of the year. Try to look back on the past with fondness and forwared to the future with excitement.

Posted by: alex35332 | November 12, 2008 10:54 AM | Report abuse

"I honestly believe that Joe Gibbs only came back to get paid"

Could not disagree more with this statement.

Gibbs was running a VERY successful couple of cars, #18, and #20, PRIOR to coming back to coach.

Where would you get the impression that he needed the money for Nascar?

Posted by: BeantownGreg | November 12, 2008 10:55 AM | Report abuse

I dont think that Lavar's problem was with the contract so much as I think he got passed that. I think he is still bitter at the way he was treated at the end here. the way information kept getting leaked that he could not play and could not grasp the playbook. they cant find a way for him to get on the field. I think that he feels we would still be a redskins despite the contract, but to make him look like he cant learn a playbook and that Warrick Holdman is better than him. I mean come on, Warrick Holdman.

Half of the RI bloggers would be upset for life is Cindy said Warrick Holdman was a better blogger.

Once again were talking Warrick Holdman

Posted by: GreatOne1 | November 12, 2008 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Oh and because its not up here,

F Dallas!

Posted by: alex35332 | November 12, 2008 11:01 AM | Report abuse

I think Lavar was totally wrong for calling him a coward. My belief is that Coach Gibbs after the Reaper died look at his health and his grandson health. No one knows how he took the Reaper's death. Lavar was out of line and really just need to move on.

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | November 12, 2008 11:02 AM | Report abuse

Any statement that Gibbs came back "for the money" is poppycock. There is absolutely no basis for such a statement! Absurd...

Gibbs II didn't win the Super Bowl, but it was a turning point in the Snyder era, taking us from something like laughingstock territory back to respectability.

Two trips to the playoffs in his four years... and lest we forget, setting the table personnel-wise for a highly possible playoff berth this season, which would make three in the past four years... it's been a hell of a long time since we could say that.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | November 12, 2008 11:02 AM | Report abuse

Lavar stated in the article that he has forgiven Gregg Williams AND Dale Lindsey (who verbally abused him).

But why are we dwelling on this now? It's Dallas week....CP is down...the sky is falling and we are bringing up something that happened years ago????

Posted by: Lisa_R | November 12, 2008 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Well, I'd hope to god that my screen name wasn't in World of Warcraft...Actually, it occurs to me that I always that the Skippy was The Truth's smarter younger brother

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | November 12, 2008 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Greg, while I don't know much about NASCAR, I would believe that you could never have too much money. Especially when it comes to running a racing team. It seems while you do have sponsors in NASCAR, it looks to me that these "owners" (so-and-so racing) have to put in their own money also.

If Gibbs didn't come back for the money whether it be for NASCAR, his family, or both; what reason do you think he came back to coach?

The man had took a 13 year hiatus.

Posted by: RedDMV | November 12, 2008 11:06 AM | Report abuse

But why are we dwelling on this now? It's Dallas week....CP is down...the sky is falling and we are bringing up something that happened years ago????

Posted by: Lisa_R | November 12, 2008 11:03 AM | Report abuse

couldn't say it any better myself.

Posted by: Original_etrod | November 12, 2008 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Do you guys even follow NASCAR?? Too many idiotic statements.

Gibbs Racing team have been winning the sprint-Nextel Cups for years. They signed with Toyota, who is taken over the US. All of his drivers do well.

Also, as much as we all dislike Danny pwning the team, he has NEVER had a problem paying his players, especially LaVar. The agent f'd up. That's his job......

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 12, 2008 11:06 AM | Report abuse

The Lambo line is actually from Young Jeezy, but I'm sure that everybody knows that.

Posted by: Rypien11 | November 11, 2008 6:28 PM

Uh Ryp, I'm pretty much an Old Geezy, so no, not a clue about Young Jeezy. But I just did The Googles expecting to find a cult movie about Lamborghinis. Imagine my surprise.

Posted by: 4-12 | November 12, 2008 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Warrick Holdman can't type.

Posted by: CindyBoren | November 12, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Absurd? Poppycock? (LOL), Whatever, NateinthePDX. I know that you worship the ground Gibbs walks on.

I don't, so get over it. I know that's your man and all, but I don't think he's holier than thou, like you try and make him out to be.

What do you think he came back for? Since my statement is so "absurd".

Posted by: RedDMV | November 12, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

If Gibbs didn't come back for the money whether it be for NASCAR, his family, or both; what reason do you think he came back to coach?

The man had took a 13 year hiatus.

Posted by: RedDMV | November 12, 2008 11:06 AM |

Eh, to help out the organization. To feel the competiveness again. To prove that he still has it (and help his other son get in coaching). And the money wasn't that bad either.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 12, 2008 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Gibbs came back because he is a competitor, and he wanted to see if he could get another ring. And, probably, Danny is pretty persistent when he's throwing the money around

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | November 12, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

how much did Gibbs make in his first go round vs hes 2nd? just curious anyone know?

Posted by: alex35332 | November 12, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

"Do you guys even follow NASCAR?? Too many idiotic statements.

Gibbs Racing team have been winning the sprint-Nextel Cups for years. They signed with Toyota, who is taken over the US. All of his drivers do well."

blah, blah, blah, yada, yada, yada...

So tell me this, Mr. Smartest Guy in the Universe: What do you think Gibbs came back for?

Since when is it bad to have too much money for your business/company?

If someone offered me a pretty penny to perform a job (A job that I've made clear is temporary) I have experince in, while making EXTRA for my company that I'm heavily invested in--without the chance of being fired--i'll take it in a heartbeat (as most of you). Even if my heart wasn't in it fully as it was when I did the job the first itme in the past.

Posted by: RedDMV | November 12, 2008 11:20 AM | Report abuse

Least we forget during this dallas week that #56 is one of the all time greatest cowboy killers.

Oh i think i can scramble over to the sideline just in time to get this pass off oh NOOOOOO......

Posted by: Stu27 | November 12, 2008 11:21 AM | Report abuse

So did Troy see stars or birdies after that hit?

Posted by: alex35332 | November 12, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

But, Red, don't you think that, having enough money to live comfortably, that Gibbs had stronger, non-financial motives to take the coaching job the second time around?

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | November 12, 2008 11:23 AM | Report abuse

beepbeep

Posted by: Cindy Boren | November 12, 2008 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Eh, to help out the organization. To feel the competiveness again. To prove that he still has it (and help his other son get in coaching). And the money wasn't that bad either.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 12, 2008 11:14 AM

To help out the organization? Dude, he won three SB trophies. He was off for 13 years!!!!!! The game "passed" your boy Gibbs by. It was painfully obvious that Gibbs was overwhelemed and simply OUTCOACHED several times during his second stint in DC. If Gibbs wanted to "help out the organization' he should've took a front office job ONLY. i think he would've done better there than on the field, IMO.

"To feel the competiveness"? No, old guys don't need to feel the competiveness. They have a hard enough time trying to feel the essential things. Competiveness at that age is certainly something you could do without.

Posted by: RedDMV | November 12, 2008 11:27 AM | Report abuse

I never saw anybody from the team refute LaVar's claim that the parties had verbally agreed to a bonus which the team then omitted from the contract.

So yes, the agent was a dope... but the villain of the piece was and remains the front office.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | November 12, 2008 10:45 AM |

No, and you'll never hear Coach Gibbs refute Arrington's b/s rant, either. These sorts of things aren't settled in the press, and that's a sign of how wrong Arrington was in trying to bring his case through the Washington Post.

Arrington's agent was barred from representing players for two years and you think the "villain" is the front office? This franchise went all-in for Arrington and gave him a huge contract, which he signed, and you think the "villain" is the front office?

And, by the way, I recall they did write a new contract which gave him half the bonus that he claimed he should have gotten. He never saw a cent of it, though, because he got out of his contract when it was clear that he couldn't play disciplined football.

Has anyone visited Arrington's bar? Be interesting to know what that scene is like.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 12, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

I think Lavar is a bit harsh, but he has a right to be bitter. He was not treated well by any stretch.

Posted by: grittar1 | November 12, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

1. Love Smoot.

2. Good thing Steinberg does print media rather than radio.

Posted by: dcsween | November 12, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

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