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Snyder, Redskins help with new football field in Northeast

In case you don't like reading on the weekends and only skimmed through Daniel Snyder's comments from earlier today, here's some video of the team owner that might be easier to digest.

But Snyder didn't travel to Northeast Washington today to solely discuss the state of the franchise. The purpose of the visit was the unveiling of a new youth football field at the Edgewood Department of Parks and Recreation Center. Thanks to a $100,000 grant from the NFL Grassroots Program, a partnership between the NFL Youth Football Fund, the Washington Redskins Charitable Foundation and Local Initiatives Support Corporation, the park has a resurfaced field, bleachers and a new electronic scoreboard that's expected to go up this week. The city's Parks and Recreation Department also installed new lights.

Tight end Chris Cooley joked that the grass looks better than the Redskins Park fields did last week. The fields there have also been undergoing a renovation.

The Edgewood field marked the 25th one in the Washington area that the Redskins have helped to renovate in recent years.

"The big thing we do that is most important is we maintain them," Snyder said, "so it looks like this five years from now. We're excited abut it, hope to keep doing it, hope to make this something that is emulated throughout the entire United States and by the rest of the clubs in the NFL."

In addition to Cooley, Redskins players Jeremy Jarmon, Chris Wilson and Edwin Williams were also on-hand for the celebration and met with area youth players following the event to take pictures and sign autographs.

The Beacon Hill local youth football team was also at the event, and the Redskins held a drawing to send four of the young players to Chris Cooley's annual football camp next month. Cooley loved the gesture and decided to match it by sending four more kids.

"There were a ton of kids here, so I thought it would be cool to donate four more. I mean, it's my camp, so I'm in control," he said with a laugh. "It should be fun, so eight of those kids could go.
"I thought this was just a really cool day. I think it's awesome that the Redskins do this for the community. It means a lot. "

By Rick Maese  |  May 15, 2010; 4:03 PM ET
 
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moo!

more grass is something I support.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 15, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Snyder deferred to St Joe when he was here, and he is right, they did "get close" a couple of times. They were in the hunt, but did not have the complete package to get over the hump.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | May 15, 2010 3:49 PM

Dan Snyder is a good owner compared to other owners who won't spend and watching every cent. It should be a good year for the Redskins.

Posted by: thorhero | May 15, 2010 4:46 PM


"getting close" and "good owner" = five playoff games and two post-season wins in 11 years?

1999-2000 W vs Detroit, L vs Tampa
2005-2006 W vs Tampa, L vs Seattle
2007-2008 L vs Seattle

not sure how much 1999-2000 counts in favor of Snyder, since he had just purchased the team, but I'm feeling charitable today.

it's not all on Snyder, though, since you need to fire up the WABAC machine for anything more than what I listed above...

1992-1993 W vs Minnesota, L vs San Francisco

a few of those losses were heartbreakers (e.g., Dan Turk) but even a single NFC championship appearance in either time frame would have me feeling better about the idea of "getting close".

and I'm pretty sure McNabb knows that feeling.

given the track record above, most of us still have some patience... hope Snyder will have some for Shanahan and crew.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 15, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

beeps... new post about watching grass grow.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 15, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

hmmm... wrong thread for that one. might need to cut all the way back to 40 gallons per day.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 15, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse

To whom much is given, much is required.
Glad to read of this giving to the community

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | May 15, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

I'm glad they are doing this too Ray, but was DS "given" his fortune, or did he earn it?

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | May 15, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins may be adding Popp to the front office.

A headline from 2002, minus the cap and the typo.

Posted by: SnakerJake | May 15, 2010 5:43 PM | Report abuse

moo!

more grass is something I support.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 15, 2010 5:03 PM |

Grass has a very short half life in NE DC. Should have resurfaced with something like ProTurf.

Posted by: SnakerJake | May 15, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Grass has a very short half life in NE DC. Should have resurfaced with something like ProTurf.

Posted by: SnakerJake | May 15, 2010 5:50 PM

not as tasty, but part of me agrees with this. the long-term maintenance required for proper turf care is often beyond the abilities of many schools and local rec departments.

a lot of charitable giving works this way, with a splashy donation but not much thought to the bigger picture.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 15, 2010 6:07 PM | Report abuse

ok, udderly ridiculous but fitting that a thread about turf would be running close to 50/50 for posts from cows vs humans, so want to finish today with a true non-sequitur.

posted yesterday that I would be responsible for watching the calves, while wife had a ladies night out.

she brought the after-party back to our place, they were drinking port, and I tried to hang with them until they started talking about sex, lingerie, and such.

it seems that one of them is pregnant, with the last name of Lingus, and the ladies were trying to convince her to name the child Connie.

no bullsh!itting, when they saw me blushing it was a better takedown than anything anyone can post up here.

catch you cows later.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 15, 2010 6:12 PM | Report abuse

From Matt Mosely's NFC East blog:

Washington Redskins tight end/blogger Chris Cooley has heard enough aboutAlbert Haynesworth for one offseason. "He doesn't have to be here," said Cooley. "And when the season starts, if he shows up and he's playing, no one's gonna give a damn what he did [in May]."

Something tells me that Mike Shanahan's not quite as understanding as Cooley.

If Haynie shows up overweight at training camp, Shanny can run his ass. Make him do extra laps after every practice. Stand by and count them as he schleps by. Heh, heh.

Posted by: SnakerJake | May 15, 2010 6:14 PM | Report abuse


Anything interesting in the second half of the interview? I caught up on some much needed sleep half way through.

It Patton emoted like this we'd all be speaking German now.

Posted by: TheCork | May 15, 2010 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Moo, you should have walked down and "kissed" them all, LOL

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | May 15, 2010 6:46 PM | Report abuse

Anything interesting in the second half of the interview? I caught up on some much needed sleep half way through.

Posted by: TheCork | May 15, 2010 6:23 PM |

You didn't miss much.

When discussing Bill Parcells he said: "Bill's not worth a shti" and as for Tim Tebow he said "He'd never get on the field". Ho hum.

Posted by: SnakerJake | May 15, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Moo, you should have walked down and "kissed" them all, LOL

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | May 15, 2010 6:46 PM |

Certainly the Colonel would have done that.

Posted by: SnakerJake | May 15, 2010 6:52 PM | Report abuse

LOL, that is one of the funniest SNL skits ever Jake.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | May 15, 2010 6:58 PM | Report abuse

Moo,

That lost to San Fran in 1993 was a bitter pill to swallow. We were about to tie the score and B-Mitch muffed the hand-off from Rypien. The winner would have played Dallas in NFC Championship and we matched up well against the Girls that year (1-1). It was also the last game of Gibbs 1.0.

Posted by: clark202 | May 15, 2010 7:32 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: clark202 | May 15, 2010 7:32 PM

agreed, but if we're talking football rather than lingerie, we need to get to the conference finals before I'm willing to say the words "getting close".

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 15, 2010 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | May 15, 2010 6:58 PM

that was a good one, but is is it funnier than "D!ck In a Box"?

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 15, 2010 7:44 PM | Report abuse

developed a stutter today... hooves are clumsy, feeling a little shell-shocked after ladies night.

time to graze the grass, already tried to sign off once, but the WABACK machine is still defunct.

'night all, please.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 15, 2010 7:49 PM | Report abuse

If honest Abe were alive today, he would be a liberal! The republican party in Abe's time WAS liberal. The conservatives were called the WHIG party. How things have changed in 150 years!

Posted by: KurtShanaman | May 15, 2010 8:22 PM | Report abuse

If honest Abe were alive today, he would be a liberal! The republican party in Abe's time WAS liberal. The conservatives were called the WHIG party. How things have changed in 150 years!

Posted by: KurtShanaman | May 15, 2010 8:22 PM |

You and Larry King would have a lot shared experiences to reminisce over if you two ever hooked up.

Posted by: SnakerJake | May 15, 2010 8:30 PM | Report abuse

And the news of the day...

Delonte West has been diddling Lebron's mom. How's that for team chemistry.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 15, 2010 9:26 PM | Report abuse

And the news of the day...

Delonte West has been diddling Lebron's mom. How's that for team chemistry.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 15, 2010 9:26 PM |

Sounds more like a DMV rant than news.

Posted by: SnakerJake | May 15, 2010 9:35 PM | Report abuse

And the news of the day...

Delonte West has been diddling Lebron's mom. How's that for team chemistry.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 15, 2010 9:26 PM

Got a link for this?

Posted by: beep-beep | May 15, 2010 9:35 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 15, 2010 9:39 PM | Report abuse

beep-beep-

F Duke, you old lady. 288 remaining.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 15, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse

If honest Abe were alive today, he would be a liberal! The republican party in Abe's time WAS liberal. The conservatives were called the WHIG party. How things have changed in 150 years!

Posted by: KurtShanaman | May 15, 2010 8:22 PM |

Ha! Leave it to a liberal to come up with this "convenient" argument. Any other great people in American history you would like to add to the liberal party even though they clearly weren't? I bet you'll even claim that the KKK and George Wallace weren't liberal democrats. What a jackass.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 15, 2010 10:06 PM | Report abuse

If honest Abe were alive today, he would be a liberal! The republican party in Abe's time WAS liberal. The conservatives were called the WHIG party. How things have changed in 150 years!

Posted by: KurtShanaman | May 15, 2010 8:22 PM |

Except he was a closeted homosexual. And they're all republicans.

Posted by: mack1 | May 15, 2010 10:16 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: mack1 | May 15, 2010 10:16 PM

+1

not that there is anything wrong with that.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 15, 2010 10:40 PM | Report abuse

Ha! Leave it to a liberal to come up with this "convenient" argument. Any other great people in American history you would like to add to the liberal party even though they clearly weren't? I bet you'll even claim that the KKK and George Wallace weren't liberal democrats. What a jackass.

Posted by: scampbell1975

Ar you kidding me? The KKK and Wallace were the hallmarks of neo-conservatives! The racially intolerant rednecks of the south!
Scamp you really need to stop denying you belong to a long history of fat white men who are conservative(aka right wing nuts)

Posted by: KurtShanaman | May 15, 2010 11:00 PM | Report abuse

Scamp- you were the kind we would frag in Nam!

Posted by: KurtShanaman | May 15, 2010 11:01 PM | Report abuse

Ar you kidding me? The KKK and Wallace were the hallmarks of neo-conservatives! The racially intolerant rednecks of the south!
Scamp you really need to stop denying you belong to a long history of fat white men who are conservative(aka right wing nuts)

Posted by: KurtShanaman | May 15, 2010 11:00 PM | Report abuse

Wallace was a democrat you moron. Sounds like that agent orange put the zap on your head. And for your info, my Pops was a door gunner in 'Nam and is a die hard conservative. You on the other hand are live off the govt. retard who has zero knowledge of history. What you fail to realize is that liberals are still subjugating poor people with their welfare policy. Keep 'em lazy, keep 'em unemployed, keep 'em dependant on the govt. Doesn't surprise me that someone of your intellect doesn't understand that though. That's how they keep you brainwashed and useless.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 15, 2010 11:08 PM | Report abuse

Except he was a closeted homosexual. And they're all republicans.

Posted by: mack1 | May 15, 2010 10:16 PM | Report abuse

Hmm...that's funny. 1) Wallace was a Democrat. 2) If Republicans are homosexuals why is it that all gays are liberal?

You phukin libs crack me up. Don't have a clue what you're talking about. Make sh!t up to fit your argument even if it isn't even remotely related to the truth. Contradict yourselves repeatedly (or at least contradict party ideologies) and don't even know history. No wonder you guys buy this sh!t hook, line and sinker. With people like you voting this country is gonna fall apart. Next thing you know we'll try and solve our monstrous debt problem by spending our way out if it. That makes sense.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 15, 2010 11:15 PM | Report abuse

What makes it even worse for you libs is that KurtShanamanhnhma is on your side. HA!

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 15, 2010 11:21 PM | Report abuse

Dear Mr. Snyder,

We Redskin fans feel good about the direction of the team. Bruce Allen, Mike Shanahan, Donovan McNabb...all proven winners who have us excited about Redskins football again. Please don't ruin it by A) talking publicly or B) showing your ugly mug in public. Just kinda stay hiding in the shadows like you did when we were the embarrassment of the league last season.

You're more than welcome to reemerge if/when this team wins a Super Bowl on your watch. And even then, just hug the trophy, speak no more than briefly, and just give it up to the actual football guys.

Looking forward to no longer seeing you,

Redskin Nation

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 15, 2010 11:21 PM | Report abuse

Being a democrat then was the same thing as a republican now. Wallace believed the same as neo cons but you werent around then so what would you know...I don't live off the gov and you are stereotyping a bunch of lies. I am not a liberal and not a conservative. your dada was a door gunner? Maybe I knew him. I was a seal who was at most hot LZ's when the huey's came in. spew your lies and mis-information to someone else ass

Posted by: KurtShanaman | May 15, 2010 11:22 PM | Report abuse

admit it, dada was a clerk

Posted by: KurtShanaman | May 15, 2010 11:23 PM | Report abuse

Co sign with Brownwood for once.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 15, 2010 11:23 PM | Report abuse

Wallace was a democrat you moron. Sounds like that agent orange put the zap on your head. And for your info, my Pops was a door gunner in 'Nam and is a die hard conservative. You on the other hand are live off the govt. retard who has zero knowledge of history. What you fail to realize is that liberals are still subjugating poor people with their welfare policy. Keep 'em lazy, keep 'em unemployed, keep 'em dependant on the govt. Doesn't surprise me that someone of your intellect doesn't understand that though. That's how they keep you brainwashed and useless.

Posted by: scampbell1975

Cheap shot with the agent orange comment. Youre right about Wallace and the generally counter-intuitive nature of the history of political parties; basically they reversed themselves philosophically. I agree with you about the revolting dysfunction surrounding racial politics as race-activist institutions have become more of a weird cult or religion with martyrs and sermons. The worst enemy of minorities in this country are those in power within the institution which claims to be their leadership, closely followed by people who make angry, arguably bigoted, statements like the one above by you.
It sucks to be outnumbered and resented(for something you have never done), by people who don't understand you or your culture...just a thought.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | May 15, 2010 11:26 PM | Report abuse

I had a cousin whose name was Campbell in Nam who lost a leg. He was born in Penn. Couldn't be your daddy? huh?

Posted by: KurtShanaman | May 15, 2010 11:27 PM | Report abuse

monkeymayonaise, well said!

Posted by: KurtShanaman | May 15, 2010 11:29 PM | Report abuse

I hear ya monkey but show me where my statement was bigoted. I wad speaking of the poor being held hostage by their own govt. This certainly isn't confined to color. Living in GA for a number of years I saw plenty of rednecks and poor white trash kept lazy by welfare.

And Kurt, the agent orange comment was a bit cheap. I greatly appreciate your sacrifice for this country and it's people but you are wrong. Wallace was a very liberal judge before he became a politician. He was beaten in a democratic primary for governor by Patterson who was supported by the KKK, which was a huge Democratic supporter. Wallace was backed on that primary by none other than the NAACP.

Monkey, the parties have not switched ideals. The Democrats have just found a much more subversive and effective way to continue their prejudices. Teach a man to fish my friend.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 15, 2010 11:36 PM | Report abuse

No Kurt, my dad was from Maine. Still got both of his legs and one hell of a temper.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 15, 2010 11:40 PM | Report abuse

It sucks to be outnumbered and resented(for something you have never done), by people who don't understand you or your culture...just a thought.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | May 15, 2010 11:26 PM | Report abuse

that resented comment might backfire on you if you consider that some black people resent white people for slavery. I never owned any slaves and neither has any white person I know.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 15, 2010 11:45 PM | Report abuse

One last thing and I bid you goodnight. I'm surprised monkey that you would immediately think about a racial issue when I mention poor and welfare. You seem intelligent enough to not immediately equate those things. Maybe that's one of the reasons racism is still such a pain in the ass and a sketchy subject. You immediately inferred a stereotypical statement when one wasn't made. Don't be so quick to put words into peoples mouths.

Goodnight

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 15, 2010 11:55 PM | Report abuse

Am I naive to ask why Daniel Snyder fired Norv Turner?

Posted by: abxinc | May 16, 2010 12:05 AM | Report abuse

Meet a few of the lesser know Skin's DL.

Ma'ake Kemoeatu
2008 Torn ACL Ruptured Achilles tendon

Adam Carriker
2007 - Torn labrum
2008 - Ankle injury
2009 - Muscle tear in shoulder

Anthony Bryant
2009 - leg injury

Jeremy Jarmon
2009 (11 games) Torn ACL

Greg Peterson
2009 (4 games in 2 years) Leg/knee

Phillip Daniels
2008 - ACL

Darrion Scott
2007 - broke foot
2008 - **
2009 - UFL (with Haslett)
Child endangerment- pleaded quilty to sticking a bag over his 2 yr olds head. This guy is scum.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 16, 2010 12:09 AM | Report abuse

Am I naive to ask why Daniel Snyder fired Norv Turner?

Posted by: abxinc

Heck no you're not. I've said it once, and I'll say it again: Norv Turner, despite his severely acne-scared face, is one HELL of an offensive coordinator. And since he left, our O has essentially sucked. Even with Gibbs 2.0 (even in light of the team that made it to the NFC champ game in Seattle).

Think for a moment. Really think - About how good that NFC Champ team that lost to the Bucs 13-14 was. Here's Wikipedia:

"In Snyder's first season as owner, the Redskins went 10–6, including a four-game winning streak early in the season, and made it to the playoffs for the first time in Norv Turner's career, and the first time for the Redskins since 1992 in the final game of the season, on January 2, 2000, against the Dolphins. Running back Stephen Davis rushed for a club-record 1,405 yards and quarterback Brad Johnson completed a club-record 316 passes and threw for more than 4,000 yards in regular play that season. They then beat the Detroit Lions in the first round of the playoffs, but lost to the Buccaneers, 14–13."

Posted by: XCountryTrevor | May 16, 2010 12:47 AM | Report abuse

Good night all-hail to the Redskins

Posted by: KurtShanaman | May 16, 2010 1:14 AM | Report abuse

One last thing and I bid you goodnight. I'm surprised monkey that you would immediately think about a racial issue when I mention poor and welfare. You seem intelligent enough to not immediately equate those things. Maybe that's one of the reasons racism is still such a pain in the ass and a sketchy subject. You immediately inferred a stereotypical statement when one wasn't made. Don't be so quick to put words into peoples mouths.

Goodnight

Posted by: scampbell1975

Yeah, ur right. I was trying to use a sociopolitical metaphor as a mechanism to illustrate the idea that welfare recipients are subject to the same assumptions as those associated with race. The term "arguably bigoted" should have been better qualified as the key term in connection between economic and racial discrimination.
Point taken.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | May 16, 2010 2:51 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, ur right. I was trying to use a sociopolitical metaphor as a mechanism to illustrate the idea that welfare recipients are subject to the same assumptions as those associated with race. The term "arguably bigoted" should have been better qualified as the key term in connection between economic and racial discrimination.
Point taken.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | May 16, 2010 2:51 AM | Report

No problem MM. I've got to admit that this little give and take was much more intelligent and civil then the stuff I usually get here (a lot of which is my fault I'm sure). I've enjoyed and appreciated it.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 16, 2010 7:14 AM | Report abuse

this little give and take was much more intelligent and civil then the stuff I usually get here ...

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 16, 2010 7:14 AM

Kinda shocking to me. First time I've ever seen "Yeah, ur right" on RI. Usually the most civil ending up here is "agree to disagree." And the monkey didn't even screw your mother or any other member of your family. Wow.

Posted by: beep-beep | May 16, 2010 7:33 AM | Report abuse

given the track record above, most of us still have some patience... hope Snyder will have some for Shanahan and crew.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 15, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Yes, its all about repairing a badly damaged image especially last year.

Posted by: glawrence007 | May 16, 2010 8:41 AM | Report abuse

Words from Mr.Snyder,

"Donovan,...." Snyder said. "It's his leadership ability that stands out with me."

So if you intent to extent him, how much and for how long?

It goes without question that McNabb is a leader.

But for how much longer and at what price?

The Washington Redskins essentially traded for a used, high-end vehicle in McNabb.

Let's hope we get the most value out of the remaining miles left in him.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 16, 2010 9:00 AM | Report abuse

Kinda shocking to me. First time I've ever seen "Yeah, ur right" on RI. Usually the most civil ending up here is "agree to disagree." And the monkey didn't even screw your mother or any other member of your family. Wow.

Posted by: beep-beep | May 16, 2010 7:33 AM |

I'd say he's a pretty straight up guy. We could all learn a lesson there. Especially me.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 16, 2010 9:03 AM | Report abuse

The Washington Redskins essentially traded for a used, high-end vehicle in McNabb.

Let's hope we get the most value out of the remaining miles left in him.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 16, 2010 9:00 AM |

Maybe, but considering we were riding in a Hyundai before I'll take it.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 16, 2010 9:06 AM | Report abuse

"I never owned any slaves and neither has any white person I know. posted by scampbell1975"

Something you used to hear a lot as an argument against the idea that racism was still prevalent. But of course, owning slaves wasn't an option, was it? Real question would be: if you were a plantation owner in Georgia back in the 1850's, and your business depended on slave ownership, would you have come up with a way to justify it? Even to the point of fighting a war to protect it?

Anyway, back to football.

Posted by: Samson151 | May 16, 2010 9:17 AM | Report abuse

"The Washington Redskins essentially traded for a used, high-end vehicle in McNabb."

LOL he's what, seven years younger than Brett Favre? Like Donavan said: when did 33 become old age?

Posted by: Samson151 | May 16, 2010 9:20 AM | Report abuse

samson151

"...he's what, seven years younger than Brett Favre? Like Donavan said: when did 33 become old age?"


33 years with 11 years of experience is old in a sport where you get hit, sacked, chased, and slammed to the ground by 300 pound, speedy, well-conditioned athletes.

Anyone else at 33 is reaching his prime.

Anyone reaching 50 will be 5 years past his.

But the trick for the redskins is extending McNabb while, next spring, looking about for a suitable replacement to groom or plug-in in the event of injury or eventual breakdown.

McNabb has to prove he's Brett Favre or Mariano Rivera before we can say he can play well into his late 30s.

I'd pay him a lot, but wouldn't give him more than 5 years.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 16, 2010 9:35 AM | Report abuse

"I never owned any slaves and neither has any white person I know. posted by scampbell1975"

But of course, owning slaves wasn't an option, was it?

Posted by: Samson151 | May 16, 2010 9:17 AM

Not an option? Speak for yourself. My wife owns a slave but since we're the same race I guess it isn't racism.

Posted by: beep-beep | May 16, 2010 9:35 AM | Report abuse

I never owned any slaves and neither has any white person I know. posted by scampbell1975"

But of course, owning slaves wasn't an option, was it?

Posted by: Samson151 | May 16, 2010 9:17 AM

You're missing the point. The point was that some blacks are angry at whites today for slavery. 1) We don't even have the option to own slaves so how can you be mad at us. 2) You're if then question is just that, an if then question. Pointless and irrelevant. That response, if you read the whole interaction, was to a statement about people of certain races feeling like they are persucuted based on their culture and something they've never done. I certainly was NOT arguing against the idea that racism is still prevalent. I'm sure if you read the whole interaction you would see that.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 16, 2010 9:43 AM | Report abuse

*your*

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 16, 2010 9:45 AM | Report abuse

But the trick for the redskins is extending McNabb while, next spring, looking about for a suitable replacement to groom or plug-in in the event of injury or eventual breakdown.

McNabb has to prove he's Brett Favre or Mariano Rivera before we can say he can play well into his late 30s.

I'd pay him a lot, but wouldn't give him more than 5 years.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 16, 2010 9:35 AM |

I agree with much of this. We did a break down a few weeks ago and most of the QB's in the playoffs were on the + side of thirty. Seems like prime time for QB's.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 16, 2010 9:50 AM | Report abuse

"I never owned any slaves and neither has any white person I know."

The idea that not ever owning slaves frees anyone of being a racist or not gaining cultural advantage is childish and speaks to a lack of true understanding of the country's complex race history.

Let's say there never was any slavery in America.

But there was Jim Crow.

Jim Crow law regulated African Americans to a secondary status in a way it do not any other racial or immigrant group.

Jim Crow spelled out what black kids could learn in school.

Jim Crow set up white hospitals and black hospitals, and if you where sick and black or white, your life was imperiled should you be in the wrong side of town.

Jim Crow allowed all-white juries to find white criminal defendents innocent in crimes where a black person was the victim.

Jim Crow allowed counties to levy taxes against blacks, but not compel white authorities to return vital services back to those communities.

Jim Crow denied blacks the right to vote.

To challenge Jim Crow law often meant violent death, imprisonment, or terror.

And it should be obvious to anyone white that there is a cultural advantage that blacks simply do not enjoy.

The silly, "I never owned slaves," argument doesn't withstand the race history of this country.

I could on and on with this, but overkill is not what I'm about.

Many societies in the world have had slavery (the Romans, the British, the Greek..)

But starting with the specific set of laws regulating the behaviors of Africans by the State of Mass., none condemned the children of slavery to secondary animal status.

And the only country to talk one way about liberty while denying it to a people who gave free labor, good music, style, soul, jokes, and attitude is America.

And it's the same country that had the guts to admit is was wrong about it.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 16, 2010 9:53 AM | Report abuse

This was from an article around the time the Skins acquired D. Hall in 2008. It was titled 'Interception Savant'. The question was whether DeAngelo had an advantage over other DBs in terms of INT returns -- in other words, did his have more impact than others'? From the article:

"Hall's average return on those 16 picks (his first few seasons) went for 26.8 yards. That places him second behind only Lito Sheppard (27.1 yards) for defensive backs with ten or more interceptions in the timeframe. Very impressive figures.
What that data ignores, though, is the context of where the play happened. Not necessarily the value of the interception...instead, that a 20-yard return from the opposing team's 25 was more successful than a 20-yard return from your own goal line. As a quick and dirty measure of how good an interception return was relative to where it came from, I divided the return length by the yardage between the spot where the interception was made and the goal line; for example, if Hall was playing for the Redskins on Sunday and picked a ball off on the Redskins' 30-yard line, and then returned it 50 yards to the opposition 20-yard line, the percentage of yards Hall gained would be (50/70)*100, or 71 percent.
Using the average of this figure for each interception, Hall's 42.4 percent marks him as the best defensive back in the league on interception returns through 2007. That number may not remain the case now that he's picked up only 31 yards on his three interceptions in 2008 {with Oakland] but.. [Jerry] Gray was right about Hall's ability to return interceptions."

So I checked and lo and behold, the guys produced 114 yards on his 4 INTs last season, for an average of 28.5 per return.

Be interesting to see what he produces under Haslett.

Posted by: Samson151 | May 16, 2010 9:56 AM | Report abuse

"My wife owns a slave but since we're the same race I guess it isn't racism.Posted by: beep-beep"

Yes, she would be operating more on the Roman model. They'd enslave anyone.

Posted by: Samson151 | May 16, 2010 10:00 AM | Report abuse

Except he was a closeted homosexual. And they're all republicans.

Posted by: mack1 | May 15, 2010 10:16 PM | Report abuse

Hmm...that's funny. 1) Wallace was a Democrat. 2) If Republicans are homosexuals why is it that all gays are liberal?
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Ah scamp, it's always cute when you explain to us how the world works. Unfortunately, inflammatory right-wing radio seems to have diminished your reading skills. I said "closeted" homosexual, you know like your reverend Ted Haggard, Larry Craig, Eric Cantor, and just about every other moralizing hypocrite you clowns elect to public office. You know, the guys who spend their days condemning liberals and their nights consuming cock.

Posted by: mack1 | May 16, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse

Moe, I was not using "not owning a slave" as an indicator that I'm not a racist. Please go back and read the entire interaction. I just explained this a minute ago. My point was that it isn't fair for people to accuse people todat for actions of ancestors. It's a little late to be mad at whites today for slavery. I'm not saying that people today are not racist because they haven't owned slaves. Indeed racism is still very much prevalent in society. Of course maybe you weren't referring to me in specific.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 16, 2010 10:04 AM | Report abuse

Ah Mack, for once I'm trying to have a civil conversation abd you seek to draw me into the depths at which we have become accustomed. "Not gonna do it, wouldn't be prudent."

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 16, 2010 10:07 AM | Report abuse

America was founded upon the labor and enslavement of one race and the complete eradication of another race. There's definitely some residual angst from many people about this, people who think they're owed something because of this country's past. Much like black folks and native americans who were exploited, there are LOTS of southerners are still bitter towards the north for the civil war. Everyone's got a beef if you look back far enough in history.

Posted by: aaronharman | May 16, 2010 10:09 AM | Report abuse

"You're missing the point. The point was that some blacks are angry at whites today for slavery. 1) We don't even have the option to own slaves so how can you be mad at us. 2) You're if then question is just that, an if then question. Pointless and irrelevant. That response, if you read the whole interaction, was to a statement about people of certain races feeling like they are persucuted based on their culture and something they've never done. I certainly was NOT arguing against the idea that racism is still prevalent. I'm sure if you read the whole interaction you would see that.Posted by: scampbell1975"

LOL I wasn't focusing on your post, just pointing out a flaw in a common argument made by a lot of folks over the past half-century. Here's a hypothetical: if slavery were legal in Georgia today, would a number of Georgia business owners possess slaves? A fanciful question, of course, but if I'm honest with myself, I have to answer: hell yes, they would. And no doubt have a lot of rationalizations to justify it in the face of the inevitable moral judgments of others.

Some of those rationalizations were the same ones used by Maddox and Wallace back in the Sixties to justify Jim Crow laws. And not so much different from what you heard from South Africans who supported apartheid.

My point being that when one class of citizens gets a significant advantage over other classes because of a particular set of laws or policies, they tend to do what they can to hold onto it -- sometimes to the point of civil war.

In the US, slavery was always race-based. Elsewhere in the world (some parts of Africa, for instance), it sometimes isn't. But the human tendency to manufacture bullsh!t reasons for unfair laws and policies remains constant.

Posted by: Samson151 | May 16, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse

And the tyranny of dull continues..

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 16, 2010 10:20 AM | Report abuse

LOL I wasn't focusing on your post, just pointing out a flaw in a common argument made by a lot of folks over the past half-century. Here's a hypothetical: if slavery were legal in Georgia today, would a number of Georgia business owners possess slaves? A fanciful question, of course, but if I'm honest with myself, I have to answer: hell yes, they would. And no doubt have a lot of rationalizations to justify it in the face of the inevitable moral judgments of others.

Some of those rationalizations were the same ones used by Maddox and Wallace back in the Sixties to justify Jim Crow laws. And not so much different from what you heard from South Africans who supported apartheid.

My point being that when one class of citizens gets a significant advantage over other classes because of a particular set of laws or policies, they tend to do what they can to hold onto it -- sometimes to the point of civil war.

In the US, slavery was always race-based. Elsewhere in the world (some parts of Africa, for instance), it sometimes isn't. But the human tendency to manufacture bullsh!t reasons for unfair laws and policies remains constant.

Posted by: Samson151 | May 16, 2010 10:16 AM |

Gotcha, and yes, I believe that a lot of Southerners and probably Northerners, Easterners, and Westerners would run their businesses off the backs of slave labor. Probably wouldn't matter what color either as long as they didn't have to do the work themselves.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 16, 2010 10:20 AM | Report abuse

Oh, and samson, I'm sure you can understand why I thought you were focusing on my post since you sited it at the beginning of that statement.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 16, 2010 10:22 AM | Report abuse

All right folks, I'm gonna get my Mom, her church hat, and myself to the service. I hope I don't burst into flames walking through the door. Last time to this church as next week I will be driving myself and a giant dog across country to our new home on the left coast. HAIL!!!

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 16, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

"Oh, and samson, I'm sure you can understand why I thought you were focusing on my post since you sited it at the beginning of that statement.Posted by: scampbell1975"

Sure. You were citing a hoary chestnut so I didn't see it as necessary.

Posted by: Samson151 | May 16, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Ah Mack, for once I'm trying to have a civil conversation abd you seek to draw me into the depths at which we have become accustomed. "Not gonna do it, wouldn't be prudent."

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 16, 2010 10:07 AM

What's happening to you? This move out west is turning you into a hippie. Enjoy your civil discourse. I'm going to build a deck.

Posted by: mack1 | May 16, 2010 10:43 AM | Report abuse

If I had to pick a college QB to watch this year, it would be Blaine Gabbert of Missouri. He's almost as big as Ryan Mallett and way more mobile. He plays in that gimmicky spread offense and still needs loads of work on his technique, but in many ways he's a better fit for a pro set than Jake Locker and could climb fast around draft time.

Posted by: Samson151 | May 16, 2010 10:44 AM | Report abuse

And the tyranny of dull continues..

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 16, 2010 10:20 AM

you made a good effort above @ 12:09 AM...

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 16, 2010 10:57 AM | Report abuse

moo-

maybe we can discuss some burg & gold on the political blog of Wapo.

My attempt last night was to somehow get the wheels back on the wagon and discuss the serious medical red flags of the DL with the exception of Haynie & Golston.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 16, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse

"Gotcha, and yes, I believe that a lot of Southerners and probably Northerners, Easterners, and Westerners would run their businesses off the backs of slave labor. Probably wouldn't matter what color either as long as they didn't have to do the work themselves.Posted by: scampbell1975"

I think that's a way of discounting the importance of racism by pretending it's simply something anyone would have done in similar circumstances. Fact is, slavery was institutionalized in the American South. The Jim Crow laws that followed it were almost as repressive as slavery itself.

This would be an example of the sort of rationalizing I referred to.

Posted by: Samson151 | May 16, 2010 11:14 AM | Report abuse

"My attempt last night was to somehow get the wheels back on the wagon and discuss the serious medical red flags of the DL with the exception of Haynie & Golston.Posted by: Diesel44"

And you'd be right. There is a significant medical risk associated with players with injury histories of that sort. It's not as bad as last season with Samuels and Randy Thomas, but it's still something to worry over.

Posted by: Samson151 | May 16, 2010 11:26 AM | Report abuse

just got back from church and saw y'all were having a discussion about slavery.

bible-believers have long looked to "the good book" for guidance on this issue. they've found all sorts of rules about how to be good slaves and masters, but NOT ONE VERSE CONDEMNING SLAVERY.

how could supposedly divine law-givers from moses to jesus have missed out on seeing the inherent wrong in slavery?

for example, remember the "parable of the faithful and the evil servant"? jesus is talking about obedient and disobedient slaves and says disobedient slaves should be BEATEN more severely than obedient ones....

luke 12:47:
"And that slave who knew his master's will and did not get ready or act in accord with his will, will receive many lashes, but the one who did not know it, and committed deeds worthy of a flogging, will receive but few..."

now, we can rationalize and say things like "well, that's just the way things were back then" and so forth, but isn't it weird that it NEVER OCCURRED TO JESUS to say "don't have slaves - it's immoral"? imho, this is good evidence that the bible is not divine.

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | May 16, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse

now, we can rationalize and say things like "well, that's just the way things were back then" and so forth, but isn't it weird that it NEVER OCCURRED TO JESUS to say "don't have slaves - it's immoral"? imho, this is good evidence that the bible is not divine.

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | May 16, 2010 11:28 AM


Only two words to describe this stuff you're posting up here, walter-in-fallschurch: Holy sh1t.

Posted by: beep-beep | May 16, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

and on the redskins front:
from the previous post by maese,
"Snyder replaced Vinny Cerrato with Allen as general manager, ousted Jim Zorn and hired Shanahan and oversaw the trade for McNabb."

this worries me a bit. does this mean/imply getting mcnabb was snyder's idea? i mean there's overseeing and there's overseeing...

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | May 16, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

diesel44

"And the tyranny of dull continues...."

Amen.

That's why we are takin' it down South.

AFC V. NFC style

The Super Bowl reps were from the NFL's division--Da Saints and Da Colts.

Some feel the AFC East will be the toughtest division, but take a look at the AFC South:

(In predicted order finish)

AFC South: Colts, Titans, Texans, Jags

NFC South: Saints, Falcons, Panthers, Bucs


Tenn. v Indy will be must-see sports tv this year.

If Vince Young is to be considered a decent to great q-back, he must dethrone the Great Manning.

Jimmy Claussen will get the starting job in Carolina late this fall.

No matter hard they try, the falcons just won't take the saints down.

The texans will be an exciting 8-8 team.

The texans, colts, and titans might all be better than the bengals, stillers, and ravens.

The bucs and jags will be in the hunt for new coaches this winter, and you wonder if Grilliams and J Haslett will get well-deserved shots.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 16, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | May 16, 2010 11:28 AM |

The Christian Bible consists of over 60 books (Old & New Testament) and while there is some "good" written in there there is also some "bad". Makes sense considering these novels date back to the 1st and 2nd centuries AD. Safe to say it may be a little outdated, but here is something to live by..

You take the good, you take the bad,
You take them both and there you have
The Facts of Life, the Facts of Life.

There's a time you got to go and show
You're growin' now you know about
The Facts of Life, the Facts of Life.

When the world never seems
to be livin up to your dreams
And suddenly you're finding out
the Facts of Life are all about you.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 16, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

oooooooooooooo. Arguing racism isn't enough. So Walter adds religion into the argument. Something tells me this blog isn't going to resolve both issues.

Me? I'm all in favor of the Skins refurbishing football fields -- and I agree, its important to maintain them.

Darrell Green, in his HOF speech said one of the reasons he lasted so long were the guys that maintained the Skins practice fields did such a good job, that he avoided injuries in practice. I'd never thought of it before until he said it. He spent thousands of hours practicing on those fields -- if they had holes or soft spots, injuries would be more likely.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 16, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

"The bucs and jags will be in the hunt for new coaches this winter, and you wonder if Grilliams and J Haslett will get well-deserved shots."

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 16, 2010 11:47 AM
...................

i sure hope we get to keep haslett for more than one year. after we get this thing going, we'll need some continuity 'round here.

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | May 16, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Walter, Scamp, et all..

Now, the world don't move to the beat of just one drum,
What might be right for you, may not be right for some.
A man is born, he's a man of means.

Then along come two, they got nothing but their jeans.
But they got, Diff'rent Strokes.
It takes, Diff'rent Strokes.
It takes, Diff'rent Strokes to move the world.
Everybody's got a special kind of story
Everybody finds a way to shine,
It don't matter that you got not alot

So what,
They'll have theirs, and you'll have yours, and I'll have mine.
And together we'll be fine....
Because it takes, Diff'rent Strokes to move the world.
Yes it does.

It takes, Diff'rent Strokes to move the world.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 16, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse

whatchu talkin' 'bout, diesel?!

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | May 16, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Diversity of intellect.

Posted by: glawrence007 | May 16, 2010 12:14 PM | Report abuse

you know diesel, beep-beep, zcezcest1, scamp, et. al. - that's the great thing about the 'skins. we all may disagree (or not) on politics and religion and race-relations and who knows whatever else, but we all love the burgundy and gold. way cool.

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | May 16, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Hail to the peacemakers for they shall inherit the REDSKINS. HAIL to the REDSKINS. GO WALTER, you da' man.

Posted by: glawrence007 | May 16, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

My thoughts on..

Politics: The two party system, I prefer the after party.

Religion: take a left on abortion street, go two blocks and turn left on gay marriage ave, then continue left.

Everything I ever needed to know about life I learned fishing
1)Gotta have a line in the water to catch fish
2) Don't leave fish to find fish
3) You can't control the weather; sometimes you just can't fish
4)Anytime is a good time to fish

All of this may or may not be true.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 16, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Diesel44,
that was so funny up there when you burst into song... "you take the good, you take the bad...." hahahaha

zcezcest1, you said,
"Darrell Green, in his HOF speech said one of the reasons he lasted so long were the guys that maintained the Skins practice fields did such a good job...."

of course they should have absolutely the best practice fields in the world. and weight room(s) too. i couldn't believe that earlier article about how crappy the weight room is... snyder's one of the richest owners and says (and i believe him) he wants to win. there's no salary cap for this kind of spending. same with coaches.

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | May 16, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

I think that's a way of discounting the importance of racism by pretending it's simply something anyone would have done in similar circumstances. Fact is, slavery was institutionalized in the American South. The Jim Crow laws that followed it were almost as repressive as slavery itself.

This would be an example of the sort of rationalizing I referred to.

Posted by: Samson151 | May 16, 2010 11:14 AM |

I'm certainly NOT trying to rationalize or discount the impotance of racism and slavery by saying, well, everyone elso would do it so... Really all I was saying is that there is probably a lot more people than just Southerners that would take advantage of it if they could. And I do agree that slavery and Jim Crow laws were a Southern Institution. I'm not in any way a fan of Southerners. I was born in VA, moved out west and then up north before ever moving to GA. I moved to Forsyth County which at the time was still very racist. As a matter of fact I was targeted as a "damn Yankee" and a hippie because my hair was kinda long and I didn't have a Southern drawl.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 16, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

All right folks, I'm gonna get my Mom, her church hat, and myself to the service. I hope I don't burst into flames walking through the door. Last time to this church as next week I will be driving myself and a giant dog across country to our new home on the left coast. HAIL!!!

Posted by: scampbell1975

Doncha just love those cornpone comments they put on the sign outside the church??? "Your Ticket To Heaven Was Hung On A Nail" or somesuch silly-a** comment?? I'd like to see "We Have Birkenstocks!!" or"Deep Soul Mining Starring Hardhat Harry" or "Baitmeat For Bonzo Starring Billy Boy"...I have faith in my Chelada..

Posted by: frak | May 16, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

You and Larry King would have a lot shared experiences to reminisce over if you two ever hooked up.

Posted by: SnakerJake

I spent some weekends around the country in hotels with Shawn, Larry's #8, back when she was single. Read into that whatever you want, and I'll betcha you are wrong. Great smile, Terrific figure. sweet laugh. Great company. And she looked good too.

Posted by: TheCork | May 16, 2010 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Gotcha, and yes, I believe that a lot of Southerners and probably Northerners, Easterners, and Westerners would run their businesses off the backs of slave labor. Probably wouldn't matter what color either as long as they didn't have to do the work themselves.

Posted by: scampbell1975

You have just defined why unions exist.

Posted by: TheCork | May 16, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Ah Mack, for once I'm trying to have a civil conversation abd you seek to draw me into the depths at which we have become accustomed. "Not gonna do it, wouldn't be prudent."

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 16, 2010 10:07 AM

What's happening to you? This move out west is turning you into a hippie. Enjoy your civil discourse. I'm going to build a deck.

Posted by: mack1 | May 16, 2010 10:43 AM

Well, after last weeks spat with Red I felt really juvenile and stupid so I'm gonna try to revert to my original RI form. For those of you that remember I was a much easier going fellow back then. It wasn't until I started taking political bashings that I started weighing in with both fists. Besides, that type of crap is disrespectful to not only the target but to everyone else on here as well. Not how I want to come across anymore.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 16, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Gotcha, and yes, I believe that a lot of Southerners and probably Northerners, Easterners, and Westerners would run their businesses off the backs of slave labor. Probably wouldn't matter what color either as long as they didn't have to do the work themselves.

Posted by: scampbell1975

You have just defined why unions exist.

Posted by: TheCork | May 16, 2010 1:06 PM

I'm not going to debate unions. They had a great purpose for the time they were created.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 16, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

...there are LOTS of southerners are still bitter towards the north for the civil war...
Posted by: aaronharman | May 16, 2010 10:09 AM

Granted, I have some bitterness towards Yankees but that's due more to World Series beat downs than Sherman's torching everything.

Posted by: will_ga | May 16, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

scampbel1965:

I'll accept your mia culpa at face yalue if you're accept mine in return. I apologized last week for my infantile outbursts at those deriding my takes on all things REDSKINS. You were in my mind. brownwood said my mia culpa was fine with him as long as I didn't post up anymore stupid takes, and just agreed with anything he put up here. That was the point where I just had to back off, and get some space from the keyboard. Like you, I'm willing to start over. When we disagree in the future I'll try to do it without any particular snarkiness.

Posted by: glawrence007 | May 16, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse

All is always forgiven glawrence. And you can continue to post whatever you like. I'll do the same, I'll just try to do it in a much more civil fashion. There is obviously common ground to be found here. I'm sure I will still take some sh!t here and will probably slip up and give some but for the most part the disrespect will hopefully cease. New coast, new attitude.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 16, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Granted, I have some bitterness towards Yankees but that's due more to World Series beat downs than Sherman's torching everything.

Posted by: will_ga | May 16, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

I am a historian, and yet,I don't want to be held accountable for what my antecedents did or didn't do five and ten generations back in this country. I'm willing to take folks at face value. Same with the REDSKINS. SAMMY BAUGH got me into this mess, dang it. Now SNYDER has to get me out of it before I'm - out!!!!

Posted by: glawrence007 | May 16, 2010 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Def Martha Stewart Style Fed Time.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 16, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Random thoughts
1.London Fletcher should make it into the HoF.

2. Orakpo may win defensive player of the year.

3. Haynesworth will be traded during training camp- I'm thinking to the Vikings.

4. One of Gibbs' boys will have a HUGE year.Either CP or Santana(maybe both)

5. The Giants will not be a factor in the NFC East.It's a 2 team race- Wash. and Dall.

6. Carlos Rogers intercepts 4 passes!

7. Laron Landry makes the Probowl as a SS.

8. We will all be happy Devin Thomas is on the team.

9. Adam Carriker has a big impact.

10. Skins make playoffs.

Posted by: iH8dallas | May 16, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

I love your optimism h8

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 16, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Def Martha Stewart Style Fed Time.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 16, 2010 1:56 PM

another form of 'living off the government'

Posted by: dcsween | May 16, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Gotta be optimistic. Only way to live

Posted by: iH8dallas | May 16, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

AFC South: Colts, Titans, Texans, Jags

Tenn. v Indy will be must-see sports tv this year.

If Vince Young is to be considered a decent to great q-back, he must dethrone the Great Manning.

The texans will be an exciting 8-8 team.

The texans, colts, and titans might all be better than the bengals, stillers, and ravens.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 16, 2010 11:47 AM

This the year that Peyton gets hurt. Polian himself already is hating on his O-line. No one expected Brady to go down as quickly and for as long as he did. Odds-wise, it has to happen sooner or later. Just a hunch.

NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition ...

Posted by: dcsween | May 16, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: iH8dallas | May 16, 2010 2:37 PM

thanks iH8, I'll bite on this one...

1. doubt it
2. possible... but as Diesel pointed out, the DL is a mixed bag
3. despite shenanigans, still intrigued by Jax
4. maybe, but I see an offense distributed among role players
5. it's a four-way race right now
6. wouldn't that be something!
7. see response to #2
8. Thomas should do well this year
9. if he's healthy
10. see response to #5

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 16, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

1.London Fletcher should make it into the HoF.

Posted by: iH8dallas | May 16, 2010 2:37 PM

How many one-time Pro Bowlers are in the HOF?

Posted by: beep-beep | May 16, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

How many one-time Pro Bowlers are in the HOF?

Posted by: beep-beep | May 16, 2010 3:19 PM

good question...

outside of the historical era (i.e., Pro Bowl was only played 1939-1942 and 1951-present) there are almost none:

Paul Hornung twice.

Ray Nitschke once.

and of course... John Riggins once.

everyone else has three or more selections.

http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/ProBowl.aspx

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 16, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

RIP Norman Hand

Posted by: terrapin3 | May 16, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Anyone signed Adalius Thomas yet? He'd add some flexibility to Haslett's defense and would be step up from the Lo Alexanders and Dre Carters of the world.

Posted by: coparker5 | May 16, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Gotcha, and yes, I believe that a lot of Southerners and probably Northerners, Easterners, and Westerners would run their businesses off the backs of slave labor. Probably wouldn't matter what color either as long as they didn't have to do the work themselves.

Posted by: scampbell1975

You have just defined why unions exist.

Posted by: TheCork | May 16, 2010 1:06 PM
------------------------------------------
Correction. He's just defined why unions used to exist. Now, they are little more than toll booths on the way to moving manufacturing out of this country.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | May 16, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: scampbell1975

**howl**

"3. Haynesworth will be traded during training camp- I'm thinking to the Vikings."

Why would they want to absorb Haynesworth's monstrous contract when they've already got the Williams boys doing an admirable job inside??

Posted by: frak | May 16, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Why would they want to absorb Haynesworth's monstrous contract when they've already got the Williams boys doing an admirable job inside??

Posted by: frak | May 16, 2010 4:09 PM

U.S. Supreme Court might have something to say about this, and the Vikes are in win-now mode if Favre comes back... the contract is actually pretty manageable right now.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 16, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

aaronharman

"...there are LOTS of southerners are still bitter towards the north for the civil war..."


I'm trying to understand how the South started the Civil War, lost, then became upset at how the region got treated by the winning North.

You can't start a fire, then complain if you get burned.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 16, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Why would they want to absorb Haynesworth's monstrous contract when they've already got the Williams boys doing an admirable job inside??

Posted by: frak | May 16, 2010 4:09 PM

1. Haynesworth's contract is cheap now that the bonus has been paid.

2. Two Vikings DL are possible facing consecutive four game suspensions.

Posted by: beep-beep | May 16, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

You can't start a fire, then complain if you get burned.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 16, 2010 4:23 PM

Murder, torture, pillage, rape ... everyone in the South had it coming.

Posted by: beep-beep | May 16, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

"Gotta be optimistic. Only way to live."

I dunno.

Pessimism has it's advantages.

If you think the day is going to suck, it means you can take advantage of the opportunity and sleep in.

Settling for the ugly babe means you won't have to spend a lot of money and time on her like you have to keep the hot one.

It doesn't bother out that your neighbor has a bigger house as all it means is that he has way more painting than you to do.

And house painting sucks.

The optimistic go to church thinking about the afterlife, while the pessimistic makes sure they have the NFL Sunday Ticket paid as all they think about is Fall afternoons.

Having low self-esteem means you can walk into the convinence store slightly inebriated and dirty during the beer/weed run as you figure no one cares who you are.

And if someone annoying does recognise you and want to chat, tell them you're taking a break from helping your neighbor paint his house and have to go.

The optimist goes to work hoping for the promotion while the pessimist prefers to spend his day snarfing the free donuts and bagels the brown-nosers leave in the workroom.

The optimist slurp coffee opening to be alert and ready.

The pessimist puffs at his blunt after work and says, "I would get a better job."

"But I suck."


Posted by: MistaMoe | May 16, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

You guys make trading Haynesworth to the vikes sound highly enticing...Maybe we can get one of the Williams's in return..

Posted by: frak | May 16, 2010 4:58 PM | Report abuse

You guys make trading Haynesworth to the vikes sound highly enticing...Maybe we can get one of the Williams's in return..

Posted by: frak | May 16, 2010 4:58 PM

I was thinking trade for both...

at that point, we will have achieved the rare feat of having four linemen -- two each on OL and DL -- with the last name Williams.

our new team name could be the "Washington Williams".

you guys can come up with the mascot and uniforms.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 16, 2010 5:02 PM | Report abuse

our new team name could be the "Washington Williams".

you guys can come up with the mascot and uniforms.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 16, 2010 5:02 PM

Named for a former president, Slick Willie. The mascot should be obvious.

Posted by: beep-beep | May 16, 2010 5:07 PM | Report abuse

1.London Fletcher should make it into the HoF.

2. Orakpo may win defensive player of the year.

3. Haynesworth will be traded during training camp- I'm thinking to the Vikings.

4. One of Gibbs' boys will have a HUGE year.Either CP or Santana(maybe both)

5. The Giants will not be a factor in the NFC East.It's a 2 team race- Wash. and Dall.

6. Carlos Rogers intercepts 4 passes!

7. Laron Landry makes the Probowl as a SS.

8. We will all be happy Devin Thomas is on the team.

9. Adam Carriker has a big impact.

10. Skins make playoffs.
1. I hope yer right.
2. Again.
3. Still with ya. But the player/pick package better be damn substantial.
4. How about #47?
5. 2 Team race? Hmmmm.....
6. Pass that sh*t this way, my man.
7. Wishful thinkin' but certainly possible.
8. I like DT. I think this is his year to shine since he now has a QB that will throw to a spot instead of waiting for him to be open by 2 or 3 steps BEFORE releasing the ball.
9. Hope yer right. This could be a major acquisition at an incredibly low price.
10. Skins in the playoffs in '10? No bogartin' my man, puff, puff, pass. I gotta try some o' dat.

Hail to 'em.

Posted by: RedskinWillie | May 16, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

And one more thing while I'm at it.

MistaMoe, I love readin' yer posts. Don't matter what the subject is, you always got somethin' provocative or entertaining to say.

Ya know, I tried that work thing, but it made me quite ill. The doctor recommended I do as little of it as possible, and that seemed to suit me a lot better.
Now I run a lil' bidness out of one o' the spare bedrooms and only have to get dressed when I take stuff to the Post Office.

Hail...

Posted by: RedskinWillie | May 16, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

posted by: beep-beep | May 16, 2010 5:07 PM

indeed!

here is our top candidate, on loan from the wonderful world of hockey:

http://www.footballbabble.com/images/scrotie.jpg

redskinwillie would be a great nickname for this mascot...

kinda reminds me of the "red rocket" when our dog has an erection.

(peace dude... just too easy to resist)

does walter have any suggestions for unis?

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 16, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

apologies all, but have not been able to vanquish the memories of ladies night after-party from my feeble bovine mind.... still processing the caboose and exploding balls.

Moe, something tells me that your wife and mine would get along just fine.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 16, 2010 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Can we get a new post. I am tired of looking at Danny Boy.

Thanks

Posted by: WRBD | May 16, 2010 5:47 PM | Report abuse

I'm glad they are doing this too Ray, but was DS "given" his fortune, or did he earn it?
Posted by: 1965skinsfan
___________________________________________

Great question, 1965skinsfan.
My answer is "yes".

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | May 16, 2010 5:57 PM | Report abuse

I think Haynesworth ahould face a firing squad of seven capable riflemen for violating and abusing his contract and obligations to the new boss. I would volunteer to load and fire one of the M1 rifles.

Posted by: KurtShanaman | May 16, 2010 6:38 PM | Report abuse

I think Haynesworth ahould face a firing squad of seven capable riflemen for violating and abusing his contract and obligations to the new boss. I would volunteer to load and fire one of the M1 rifles.

Posted by: KurtShanaman


Amazing isn't it.

He thinks because he is not always batting clean-up, despite his salary(which would make the Sultan of Brunei spit his drink all over the floor), he is still entitled to whine right out of the gates.

You want a trade, try at least being sorta cool about it and play along for one year while we rebuild...really goddamn selfish.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | May 16, 2010 6:57 PM | Report abuse

I think Haynesworth ahould face a firing squad of seven capable riflemen for violating and abusing his contract and obligations to the new boss. I would volunteer to load and fire one of the M1 rifles.
Posted by: KurtShanaman
_________________________________________

Uh, Kurt, ole buddy.
AH is not being the team player others are, that is clear. However, technically, he has not violated his contract.
AH is a minimalist: he has proven he wants others to do for him, and get all he can get.
He is Self-absorbed and does NOT care about team, nor teammates.
Yet, he has violated his contract.

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | May 16, 2010 7:04 PM | Report abuse

I think Haynesworth ahould face a firing squad of seven capable riflemen for violating and abusing his contract and obligations to the new boss. I would volunteer to load and fire one of the M1 rifles.

Posted by: KurtShanaman

Why 7? Its not like Albert is a small target.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 16, 2010 7:14 PM | Report abuse

Why 7? Its not like Albert is a small target.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 16, 2010 7:14 PM

I think by 7 capable riflemen he meant blind guys capable of pulling a trigger.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 16, 2010 7:29 PM | Report abuse

redskinwillie would be a great nickname for this mascot...

kinda reminds me of the "red rocket" when our dog has an erection.

(peace dude... just too easy to resist)

does walter have any suggestions for unis?

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 16, 2010 5:29 PM
..................

well, first we'd have to determine whether or not the rites described in genesis 17:10-14 have been properly observed. colors should be flesh-tones, and maybe the helmet looks something like this?:
http://carbonfiberhelmets.com/images/pictures/gallery/german-side.jpg

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | May 16, 2010 7:40 PM | Report abuse

agreed about flesh tones, but to be honest... with all the talk about 'skin color up here, not sure we want to go there.

that helmet isn't working for me, either.

Dick's Sporting Goods has a fine selection of helmets, but none meet specifications for the proposed name change.

something a little more porno would be nice, although WaPo has blocked all attempts to post the mock-ups.

you're right about the question of circumcision, it might divide the fan base forever.

although Cindy could always post a new poll, ladies night after-party showed me that men simply are unable to talk about sex the way that women can.

catch you cows later.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 16, 2010 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Bloggers that RI would be better off without (mainly because they are boring and dull and post too much):

the alphabit duds; twi, zce, psp, zfj
mistamoe
brownwood
scampbell
frak

Bloggers that raise the quality level of RI posts:

thecork
crislarry
diesel
moodly
reddmv

Bloggers that have left the house and we hope they never return:

periculum
league-source

Posted by: PsyOps | May 16, 2010 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Ranking RI regulars = power rankings

Even worse when coming from non-regulars...just sayin'...

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 16, 2010 8:29 PM | Report abuse

Bloggers who are pretentious enough to make a list that rates bloggers' overall contribution:

PsyOps

(oh!, and monkeymayonaise)

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | May 16, 2010 8:33 PM | Report abuse

Ranking RI regulars = power rankings

Even worse when coming from non-regulars...just sayin'...

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 16, 2010 8:29 PM |

1. It's a slow day.

2. How do you know if I am a regular or not? Just because you haven't seen my nom de screen before means nothing.

Posted by: PsyOps | May 16, 2010 8:38 PM | Report abuse

Bloggers that have left the house and we hope they never return:

periculum
league-source

Posted by: PsyOps

league-source is now beep-beep, by the way. Sooooo...he has come back, and is still a dooshe who uses unnecessary hyphens.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | May 16, 2010 8:38 PM | Report abuse

Enough of Danny boy already.

Posted by: sb3b | May 16, 2010 8:40 PM | Report abuse

Bloggers who are pretentious enough to make a list that rates bloggers' overall contribution:

PsyOps

(oh!, and monkeymayonaise)

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | May 16, 2010 8:33 PM |

You have a disgusting nom de screen. If you have any hopes of getting on a list, good or bad, you need to clean it up.

Posted by: PsyOps | May 16, 2010 8:46 PM | Report abuse

You have a disgusting nom de screen. If you have any hopes of getting on a list, good or bad, you need to clean it up.

Posted by: PsyOps

hahahahahha! Thanks for ur input.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | May 16, 2010 8:50 PM | Report abuse

"Bloggers that RI would be better off without...mistamoe"

Actually, I agree with this dude.

I will repond without the usual snarky tone as mrsmoe's collard greens have left me a little gassy.

While sitting on the toilet, it dawned me that other than what I was doing at that moment, blogging was something else I did too much of.

The epiphany proved to me the power of an earnest strain.

I sat like Rodin's "The Thinker" while creating a stinker.

And while one activity is necessary for survival, we all know that the other is not.

And don't ask me which is which.

So in light of this fellows' perceptive comment about my soporific contributions to this forum, I will take some time away and let others have run of this place.

I will go back to reading posts and chuckling at the dudes who rant like gorillas in a cage about stuff that, in the long run, only concerns the gorilla in the cage.

So in leaving, I send a polite fart in all your general directions.

Think of it like I'm BP, and RI, the Gulf of Mexico.

I would say more, but, like I said, mrsmoe's greens have given me the runs.

I have to go back to the bathroom to make another earnest strain.

And hopefully, my absence should leave this place better off.

Ciao----

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 16, 2010 8:52 PM | Report abuse

Ich habe meine Unterhosen verschmutzt.

Posted by: Rotfrau | May 16, 2010 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Rotfrau-

Welcome back. Sorry to hear you have soiled your pants.

Ändern Sie Ihre Windel

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 16, 2010 9:08 PM | Report abuse

the fishing fleet has left the harbor...

except for one short trip to the local stream, this cow likes to keep four legs on shore.

have fun, but will sit this one out.

hopefully next mini-camp will bring more news.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 16, 2010 9:18 PM | Report abuse

PsyOps choice of bloggers for the hall of fame shows how much his opinion and list is really worth.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 16, 2010 9:40 PM | Report abuse

Ranking RI regulars = power rankings

Even worse when coming from non-regulars...just sayin'...

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 16, 2010 8:29 PM

This guy posts up here under several different handles, sometimes carries on conversations with himself under two different names. He's regular enough to have compiled a list of regulars but not regular enough to keep up with what's going on up here. He usually checks in for a while swinging madly to throw his elbows at peeps before his parents take him away from their computer.

Posted by: beep-beep | May 16, 2010 10:22 PM | Report abuse

This guy posts up here under several different handles, sometimes carries on conversations with himself under two different names. He's regular enough to have compiled a list of regulars but not regular enough to keep up with what's going on up here. He usually checks in for a while swinging madly to throw his elbows at peeps before his parents take him away from their computer.

Posted by: beep-beep | May 16, 2010 10:22 PM |

Funny. I would say something about his political affiliation but I'm trying to ween myself off that junk.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 16, 2010 10:33 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 16, 2010 10:33 PM

Let me fix this for you.

Sadly. I would bore you with my incessant ramblings about his political affiliation but I'm too busy trying ween myself off my black neighbor’s junk.

Seriously scamp, please for the love of the 8lb bald headed diaper rashed baby Jesus, give the political nonsense a rest.

Thank you in advance.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 16, 2010 10:49 PM | Report abuse

Not takin' the bait diesel. Nice try though.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 16, 2010 11:26 PM | Report abuse

Scamp- I wasn't trying to reel you in. Just asking for some self awareness.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 16, 2010 11:44 PM | Report abuse

More Random Thoughts

1. Saw the Broadway show "Wicked" last night- I wanted to hang myself.

2. DHall goes to probowl this year.

3. Phillip Buchanon is more valueable than people realize.

4. I'm glad Chris Wilson is still on this team, underrated pass rusher.

5. DMac will torch the Birds in Philly.

6. Horseshoes> Cornhole

7. Beerpong is the best drinking game ever.

8. Who's that girl with the daisy dukes on?

9. Fred Davis or Chris Cooley? I'm leaning towards Davis.

10. Watch out for Malcolm Kelly to be a good #3 receiver.

Posted by: iH8dallas | May 16, 2010 11:56 PM | Report abuse

Scamp- I wasn't trying to reel you in. Just asking for some self awareness.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 16, 2010 11:44 PM | Report abuse

interesting way of doing that what with the homosexual remarks and all. Seems to me like trying to pick a fight. Not gonna oblige. Goodnight and HAIL!!!

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 17, 2010 12:03 AM | Report abuse

scamp- I'm hetro, you my RI friend may have your questions. I don't care either way. I don't fight on an anonymous blog. I'd rather discuss the skins but you seem to rather conveniently drag everything into politics. My intentions were simple…please give the political b.s. a rest.

HTTR.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 17, 2010 12:15 AM | Report abuse

Say it ain't so, Moe.

Posted by: SoCal_SkinsFan | May 17, 2010 12:29 AM | Report abuse

DMac will torch the Birds in Philly.

Posted by: iH8dallas | May 16, 2010 11:56 PM


I'll go one further...I say he does it in both games. Skins sweep the season series and Eagles finish in last place. Book it!

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 17, 2010 5:17 AM | Report abuse

moe, surely you jest! i'll expect lots more posts from you soon.

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | May 17, 2010 6:43 AM | Report abuse

While sitting on the toilet, it dawned me that other than what I was doing at that moment, blogging was something else I did too much of.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 16, 2010 8:52 PM

Don't go, Moe! Doesn't have to be all or none. You could cut back. Three ways to do it. Reduce the number of posts by, say a half, to about 25 per day. Or keep the number of posts and limit the number of characters like a tweet. Or, finally, go back and get some of your old posts, paste 'em in, and treat us to four weeks of "the best of MistaMoe" or, as some would prefer, "the worst of MistaMoe." This stuff never grows old.

Posted by: beep-beep | May 17, 2010 6:59 AM | Report abuse

A man, a plan, a canal:

beep-beep

or,

peeb-peeb

Posted by: beep-beep | May 17, 2010 7:02 AM | Report abuse

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