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So Far, a Typical Monday in Ashburn

Despite the debacle in Detroit, the Redskins appear to be preparing for as normal a Monday as possible. Coach Jim Zorn was parked in his regular spot at 7 a.m., and the rest of the coaching staff and players trickled in between 8 and 9 a.m.

The players are scheduled for their regular run just after 11 a.m., and Zorn will address the media at 12:25 p.m., after he has broken down the film of the 19-14 loss to the Lions.

This is a big week in Ashburn, with myriad issues on hand. Can the defense recover from a 390-yard performance against Detroit? Can Zorn put behind the questions -- which will almost certainly come up again -- about his decisions to go for a touchdown on fourth and goal from the 1 and to give Detroit another opportunity by accepting a penalty after the Redskins had stopped the Lions on third down? Can Clinton Portis of 2009 resemble the Clinton Portis of 2008? How bad is Albert Haynesworth's injury? Are any of the other players who were banged up -- among them captains Mike Sellers and London Fletcher -- seriously hurt?

We'll have rapid updates from Zorn's press conference, and pass on any news from the locker room. Stay tuned.

By Barry Svrluga  |  September 28, 2009; 10:57 AM ET
 
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This team sucks.

Posted by: Original_etrod | September 28, 2009 11:01 AM | Report abuse

I'm sure I'll have to say this again, no matter how obvious: comparing fans (who are supposed to overreact to everything surrounding their team) to the owner (who is supposed to keep a level head and set the tone for the organization) is beyond retarded. Snyder has the power to fire coaches impulsively, fans don't.

Posted by: brownwood26
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My take on this comments board is a little different from yours. I don't see this as a place where "fans are supposed to overreact". I see it as somewhere for fans to speak their opinions about the team, and what the team should or shouldn't do - and have a fun discussion about it.

So I guess what you're saying, is I should disregard everything you say as the equivalent of shouting expletives into a pillow, because you're just exercising your license to overreact here.

I had been looking at your comments in the context of "If I was the Owner, here is what I'd do", which is why it makes sense to draw a comparison between the fans (You) and the Owner. But now you're saying that you're just blowing off steam, so I'll keep that in mind in the future.

Posted by: REXskins | September 28, 2009 11:02 AM | Report abuse

"Didn't the Bengals win yesterday? Can't think of a more deserving crew.

Posted by: Samson151"

That they did. They're a fluke deflection away from being 3-0. You'd have never thought Palmer could have done it, though, because apparently good QBs never get stuck with losing teams, and his career W/L record shows that Carson Palmer is a bad quarterback.

Posted by: psps23

Posted by: psps23 | September 28, 2009 11:02 AM | Report abuse

And if you want to know any of this information, listen to ESPN 980 or go to PFT.

Posted by: Flounder21 | September 28, 2009 11:03 AM | Report abuse

PORTIS DECLARES HIMSELF UNAVAILABLE FOR PRACTICE

ASHBURN, VA – Washington Redskins running back said this morning that he was so fatigued from just watching his other teammates practice last week, that he couldn’t summon the energy to play effectively in a Sunday afternoon loss to former league doormat Detroit.

When asked who then was wearing his uniform during the embarrassing loss to the Liobns, Portis said: “Yeah, I was there, but that wasn’t me.”

Portis said that watching his teammates running around at practice and trying to get their timing and rhythm down left him feeling winded and tired.

“All that standing around during the practice sessions left my ankles feeling pretty sore too,” he said.

Portis has therefore made himself unavailable this week’s practices, and he won’t even bother to attend any team meetings in preparation for next Sunday’s home game against Tampa Bay.

Said the star running back, “I don’t want to take any chances this week. So I’ll just plan on seeing ya on Sunday. But you should know, I'm only playing for part of the 3rd Quarter.”

Posted by: Vic1 | September 28, 2009 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Um...

Posted by: 4-12 | September 28, 2009 11:04 AM | Report abuse

I have a great play call. Forget a bootleg, misdirection or play fake... Lets run it to the left just like we do every other time.

Posted by: isonic1 | September 28, 2009 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Wil_GA,
Thanks for letting me know on RiggoTwitter.

Posted by: alex35332 | September 28, 2009 11:04 AM | Report abuse

This is a link to an article on the front page of the Detroit Paper...

http://www.freep.com/article/20090927/COL01/90927035/1319/Blacked-out--knocked-down-…-Lions-arise-

Posted by: Sports_Guru | September 28, 2009 11:04 AM | Report abuse

I, uh...

Posted by: 4-12 | September 28, 2009 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Has Ladell Betts and his inability to know when to stay in bounds and when to get out of bounds been addressed. Is he too focused on running or just too stupid to grasp the concept?

Posted by: will_ga | September 28, 2009 11:05 AM | Report abuse

SNYDER FINDS A NEW WAY TO PROFIT FROM FAN MISERY

ASHBURN, VA -- The word from Redskin Park this morning is that Washington Redskins owner Dan Snyder is set to unveil a new line of Redskin apparel -- starting with a maroon golf shirt emblazoned with "FIRE ZORN" in big black letters.

The shirts will be available from Tuesday for $75 each from Redskin fan apparel outlets.

While Snyder is said to have no intention of firing Zorn despite the miserable (1-2) start of the season, the team owner allegedly figures that millions of angry fans -- combined with an expected season-long series of painful and embarrassing team loses -- will boost sales of the shirts to record levels.

Redskin Insiders also noted that Snyder expects to make at least $74 in profits from each sale.

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CRUISE STARS IN JERRY MAGUIRE SEQUEL

HOLLYWOOD, CA -- Famed Hollywood movie actor Tom Cruise is set to reprise his Academy Award nominated role as football player-agent Jerry Maguire in a new comedy movie debuting this weekend.

In this sequel to the 1996 movie "Jerry Maguire," Cruise's character finds himself as a down and out player-agent whose career is suddenly resurrected when he is named as the general manager and personal confidante of the quirky, irresponsible and irrepressible owner of a highly lucrative but unsuccessful National Football League franchise composed of a bunch of not-so loveable losers who find new ways every week to insult and alienate their fans, while laughing all the way to the bank.

The title of the new comedy, being released on Friday by Paramount Pictures, is "Show Me the Money."

Posted by: Vic1 | September 28, 2009 11:05 AM | Report abuse

zorn should have them in full pads running the oklahoma drill.....................

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 28, 2009 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Ah...

Posted by: 4-12 | September 28, 2009 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Boooooooooooo.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | September 28, 2009 11:06 AM | Report abuse

alan4

"You're right, Moe. JC should have played better defense. And how could he let their RB get nearly 100 yards in the first half?"

You post like a man who doesn't see the whole picture.

Jason Campbell is playing for an extension, bro'.

So in games where the defense just isn't getting it done, the big money deal comes when you can win the game with your arm.

We hate on Eli, but Eli is da prince when it comes to the last two minutes of a game.

We mock Romo, but dude hits guys in the end zone on the regular.

The Carson Palmer comparison is laughable: yesterday, Palmer took victory from the World Champ stillers.

The only thing Campbell is taking up is space and time.

Put Campbell on an 8-game leash.

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 28, 2009 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Why don't we ever run a bootleg or a screen?

Posted by: Rypien11 | September 28, 2009 11:07 AM | Report abuse

zorn should have them in full pads running the oklahoma drill.....................

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 28, 2009 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Only if he has to run it too.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | September 28, 2009 11:08 AM | Report abuse

New GM will be Morraco Brown who replaces Vinny. Its a change, he has a good rep as talent evauluator and Synder keeps and in house guy to do his bidding.

Case closed

Posted by: ocskins | September 28, 2009 11:08 AM | Report abuse

If anyone needs to go it's Blache. He and his great quotes can go as far as I'm concerned. This defense couldn't defend 3rd and 40! Yesterday was just like last year when the defense didn't show at Cincinati or San Fran. They play with heart one week and then none the next? I think not. I say the defense's game plan was flawed.

Posted by: bangkokben | September 28, 2009 11:08 AM | Report abuse

The, um...I, uhhh...

Posted by: 4-12 | September 28, 2009 11:09 AM | Report abuse

Carson Palmer and Brett Favre led their respective teams to last-minutes winning drives yesterday.

Campbell didn't. As usual.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | September 28, 2009 10:39 AM


Palmer and Favre have coaches that are wise enough to call plays to go INTO THE END ZONE with the game on the line. Campbell doesn't.

And for those with the "Stafford outplayed JC" stuff...Stafford played with a lead the entire game. He got hamstrung by his team the first two games because they had to come from behind in the 2nd half. They didn't have that problem against Washington.

JC had to stand behind a line that couldn't protect the passer OR run block. If he played a real defense yesterday he'd likely be dead. The only thing I blame on JC is his inability to keep the ball in his hands on those two untouched fumbles. And since he recovered them both, no harm no foul.

JC ain't the problem. So pick a new argument. God knows there's plenty.

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 28, 2009 11:09 AM | Report abuse

Another rhetorical post from JR.

but stay tuned....

Posted by: Chia_Pet | September 28, 2009 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Once I saw that, I knew the game was over. Where was CP? I think I sense a big rift because they aren't feeding him the ball anymore and he isn't on the field but for 1st and 2nd downs in most instances.....

And is 'Stretch Left' the only run play Zorn knows?

Posted by: 4thFloor | September 28, 2009 10:56 AM | Report abuse

I don't know if he was hurt or not.

CP getting 12 carries isn't how this team will win.

And yes stretch left is the only run play zorn knows.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | September 28, 2009 11:01 AM | Report abuse

You mean the run game that failed to get any yards in the first half? I know this may not have occured to some people but the Lions actually have a decent run defense. They have Gravy Jackson and that sammie hill something or toher is the same size as Haynesworth. You can't run through them. That's why we were passing and trying to run around them. If you want to gash the Lions you have to spread them out. The Saints were effective at this and that's why Mike Freakin Bell got twice as many yards against them them Adrian Peterson.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | September 28, 2009 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Wil_GA,
Thanks for letting me know on RiggoTwitter.
Posted by: alex35332 | September 28, 200

He's either brutally honest, doesn't care what people think, or he drunk tweets. Not sure which, but he can be entertaining at times.

Posted by: will_ga | September 28, 2009 11:11 AM | Report abuse

JC ain't the problem.

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 28, 2009 11:06 AM
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He isn't the solution either.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | September 28, 2009 11:10 AM |

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | September 28, 2009 11:11 AM | Report abuse

PA,

True even the Vikings could not run against them.

Posted by: Flounder21 | September 28, 2009 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Dan Steinberg should be the RI guy.

He's much wittier.

I've had enough of JR.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | September 28, 2009 11:12 AM | Report abuse

As you all know I have been a big supporter of JC. I still think that he is a good QB, however it time to move on. I want Dan to blow things up including Vinny and start rebuilding. That said rebuild with a new QB. JC to me is done here knowing that Dan really wants another QB has mess with his head. I do think he will do very well with another team. I hoping with get Bradford.

Posted by: jm220 | September 28, 2009 11:12 AM | Report abuse

"PORTIS DECLARES HIMSELF UNAVAILABLE FOR PRACTICE"


Some of us posted last week that he should've been inactive yesterday.

Thing is, it looks like he was, but the whole team took the game off.

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 28, 2009 11:12 AM | Report abuse

@bangkokben :

Totally agree. With all the money and draft picks spent on our defense, a monkey could scheme it as well as Blanche. Blanche is doing less with more money and talent than any coordinator I know of. Yet the offense improves with no additions.

Posted by: REXskins | September 28, 2009 11:12 AM | Report abuse

REDSKINS REWORK SPECIAL PROMOTION PACKAGE

ASHLBURN VA -- The Washington Redskins today announced that they are reworking their schedule for several promotional events set for the balance of the football season because of a series of unforeseen events.

Team officials said they are canceling a Jason Campbell Bubblehead Giveaway promotion originally set for the next home game -- an October 4 match against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Team officials explained that the Chinese toymaker had some production problems that left the replica quarterback’s head firmly affixed to his shoulders.

Said one team marketing official, “It isn’t much of a bubblehead of our quarterback, especially since the head don’t work.”

The toymaker responded, “While we will admit that this bubblehead isn't much of a quarterback, I can assure you that this is the most faithfully detailed and accurate replica that we have ever produced. Just look at the blank stare and funny mustache. Frankly, we can’t help it if your QB can’t read defenses, check down to secondary receivers when the primaries are covered, or throw for more than 7 yards downfield – but despite all this, we have been able to reproduce each of these traits in these dolls.”

In other news, team officials said they are putting on hold plans for a Coach Jim Zorn Appreciation Day, as many team insiders wonder if he’ll still be around by the time that promotion date -- an October 18 game against the Kansas City Chiefs –- rolls around.

During the December 6 game against the New Orleans Saints, randomly selected fans will be invited onto the field during actual games to field and return punts for the team. Said one Redskin special teams coach, “We're looking forward to this one. The fans couldn’t do any worse than any of the punt returners we have at the moment, and we might even find some real talent out there.

During a December 21 game against the New York Giants, Redskin officials had planned to wear throwback jerseys to remind fans of the team’s long gone history of Superbowl championship caliber seasons. However, representatives from each of earlier the teams are appealing to Redskin officials to not allow the current team to wear their colors or let the players anywhere near their Lombardi awards – fearing they might fumble the football shaped trophies and leave them dented and tarnished.

While the rest of the promotion schedule is still in flux, one final event for this lost season will definitely take place -- a so-called Fan Appreciation Day set for the final home game of the season -- a December 27 game against the Dallas Cowboys.

Said a spokesman for team owner Dan Snyder, “After the merciless abuse of our fans this season, it’s only natural that we would finish up with a big lie and tell them how much we love them. And if they don’t like it, we’ll let our lawyer dogs loose on them.”

Posted by: Vic1 | September 28, 2009 11:13 AM | Report abuse

The only thing Campbell is taking up is space and time.

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 28, 2009 11:07 AM |
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Ha... That's a good one.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | September 28, 2009 11:14 AM | Report abuse

didn't watch but 5 minutes of the game, was JC under pressure all game long?? didn't seem like it from the radio feed...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 28, 2009 11:14 AM | Report abuse

"He isn't the solution either.

Posted by: MrRedskin21"

What one QB is?

Posted by: psps23 | September 28, 2009 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Most team progress from year to year. Unfortunately, the Redskins are the ones that regress. The front office is disillusioned into thinking the roster is a lot better than it is. There is no Gibbs here to save us now...

Posted by: isonic1 | September 28, 2009 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Our 2009 Draft:
1 - B. Orakpo
2 - Jason Taylor (courtesy Dolphins)
3 - K. Barnes
4 - P. Kendall (courtesy Jets)
5 - G. Cody
6 - R. Henderson
7 - E. Williams
7 - M. Mitchell

From this group we got 3 no longer with the team, 1 starter, 3 inactives, and 1 practice squad.

Posted by: RITCA | September 28, 2009 11:15 AM | Report abuse

The Redskins currently have 2 running plays: Run left and run left for loss.

Posted by: Original_etrod | September 28, 2009 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Why don't we ever run a bootleg or a screen?
Posted by: Rypien11 | September 28, 2009 11:07 A

Because our bootleg just winds up being a stanky leg.

Posted by: will_ga | September 28, 2009 11:16 AM | Report abuse

My bad.

This latest post is from Barry Svlurga.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | September 28, 2009 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Palmer and Favre have coaches that are wise enough to call plays to go INTO THE END ZONE with the game on the line. Campbell doesn't.

And for those with the "Stafford outplayed JC" stuff...Stafford played with a lead the entire game. He got hamstrung by his team the first two games because they had to come from behind in the 2nd half. They didn't have that problem against Washington.

JC had to stand behind a line that couldn't protect the passer OR run block. If he played a real defense yesterday he'd likely be dead. The only thing I blame on JC is his inability to keep the ball in his hands on those two untouched fumbles. And since he recovered them both, no harm no foul.

JC ain't the problem. So pick a new argument. God knows there's plenty.


Posted by: brownwood26 | September 28, 2009 11:09 AM | Report abuse


My arguments in order are:

1. Nickel CB sucking.
2. Rush defense.
3. Pass rush.
4. Run Blocking.
5. Portis.
6. Mental errors. JC fumbling twice, Moss/Cooley not knowing where the sticks are, and Betts not knowing when to get in or our of bounds.
7. Penalties.
8. Dropped passes.
9. JC
10. play calling

Yeah, JC is 9th on my list of reasons why we suck.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | September 28, 2009 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Can someone explain to me why we re-signed Alridge to be a "spark" or change of pace guy and why he was active yet didn't get a single touch the whole game? If you aren't going to use him why dress him? And what in the world is Rock Cartwright doing in the game on offense in 4th quarter? Sometimes it just makes absolutely no sense what Zorn does with his personnel decisions.

Posted by: zjfr2 | September 28, 2009 11:18 AM | Report abuse

If there's evidence Dan is a dirty Scientologist I'm done with this team until he's gone.


I'd like to know who D Hall is referring to when he says there are guys on this team that think they're superstars without accomplishing anything. maybe portis, landry, sellers, smoot, betts all garbage players.

Posted by: bhoang888 | September 28, 2009 11:18 AM | Report abuse

JC is a loser, period. A nice guy, but a loser.

I recall last spring how many people on RI said he'd go out there this year, kick azz, take names, and then thumb his nose at The Danny and sign a big contract with another team for 2010.

Right.

Campbell's agent probably stares at his cell phone muttering, "ring, dammit, ring."

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | September 28, 2009 11:19 AM | Report abuse

mistamayor

"...I've had enough of JR..."


Looks like the citizens are grabbing their torches and pick forks.

Ya betta scram!

Better yet: how about a little research related to the performance of fifth year quarterbacks.

What's their average completion rate, winning perentage, yards per throw, and touchdown/interception ratio?

The rhetorical questions and polls are driving folks nuts.

And we get enough of that from the games.

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 28, 2009 11:20 AM | Report abuse

Greg,

No he wasn't under pressure all game, he does not step up in the pocket very well. The lineman were pushing there guys up the field but JC was waiting to long to move up in the pocket.

Posted by: Flounder21 | September 28, 2009 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: 4thFloor | September 28, 2009 11:21 AM | Report abuse

If there's evidence Dan is a dirty Scientologist I'm done with this team until he's gone.

Posted by: bhoang888 | September 28, 2009 11:18 AM

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No evidence, just speculation.

Scientologists are a secretive bunch.

but I'd be surprised if he wasn't caught up in it.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | September 28, 2009 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Question for anyone who's actually been to the games. Has Malcolm Kelly been open on any of those long balls yet? They haven't been close to completing yet, which may be JC’s fault as much as anyone. To me, MK seems like more of a possession receiver and someone with actual speed like Devin Thomas should be running the go or fly routes. Of course overall it doesn’t matter a whole lot with the way the entire team is playing.

Too early to think about how high our draft pick will be next season? Hmm Bradford (QB), LB, CB. So many needs……

Posted by: skinswest | September 28, 2009 11:21 AM | Report abuse

I think Hall is most likely referring to Landry. And possibly Moss.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | September 28, 2009 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Two in the Back of the Head! Please!

Posted by: lylefish | September 28, 2009 11:22 AM | Report abuse

Portis only got 12 carries because the Lions had the ball for 22 minutes in the first half. Same reason Aldridge didn't get a touch. I hope Cartwright replaces Betts because I agree with will_ga that Betts has his sideline intuition backazzwards.

Posted by: bangkokben | September 28, 2009 11:22 AM | Report abuse

Can Clinton Portis of 2009 resemble the Clinton Portis of 2008?

Posted By JReid

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How can he when he ain't getting fed the ball and you keep Betts/Cartwright in the game.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | September 28, 2009 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Watching Greg Blanche's post-game interview on CSN yesterday, my first thought is that he is already thinking about his retirement. The man had no fire in him. Just kept saying that the Lions were a much better team this year than the media had been giving them credit for.

Posted by: JohnnyRyde | September 28, 2009 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Has Ladell Betts and his inability to know when to stay in bounds and when to get out of bounds been addressed. Is he too focused on running or just too stupid to grasp the concept?

Posted by: will_ga | September 28, 2009 11:05 AM

Also... DONT GET TACKLED ON A HOOK AND LADDER! GO DOWN LADERALING THE BALL... A TURNOVER DOESNT MATTER AT THAT POINT!!!!!!!

Posted by: Sports_Guru | September 28, 2009 11:24 AM | Report abuse

What we could have drafted in 2009:

1 - Michael Oher OT
2 - Phil Loadholt OT
3 - Kevin Barnes CB
4 - Lawrence Sidbury Jr. DE/LB
5 - Duke Robinson OG
6 - Matt Slawson OG
7 - Eddie Williams FB/TE
7 - Marko Mitchell WR

2 starting tackles, 2 back up guards, 1 back up DE/LB, 2 inactives, 1 practice squad.

Posted by: RITCA | September 28, 2009 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Vinny Cerrato is a confirmed scientologist, however.

Take one look at his eyes for confirmation.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | September 28, 2009 11:24 AM | Report abuse

riggo44

Such a poet!

Posted by: will_ga | September 28, 2009 11:24 AM | Report abuse

When DeAngelo Hall actually covers someone then he can start running his mouth. Until then he should STFU.

Posted by: skinswest | September 28, 2009 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Before I shut down for the day, I'd like to give out a personal game ball to #23:

DeAngelo Hall

Hall spent most of the day chasing Calvin Johnson around.

And from what we all, Johnson didn't beat us or have a monster day.

Hall was given big money to 'shut down' the other team's top receiver.

Yesterday, he earned his money.

Hail to #23!

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 28, 2009 11:25 AM | Report abuse

FIRE CERRATO
HIRE PARCELLS

Posted by: jj44skins | September 28, 2009 11:25 AM | Report abuse

I think im getting to the point where I might be losing complete faith in this team. Until I read the headline "Dan Snyder Retires," "Dan Snyder dies of heart attack," or "Dan Snyder Shot by Crazied fan" I think I might be done with this team....

Not saying I want anyone to shoot snyder...but if it happened I don't think I'd be too upset...

Posted by: peoplearestupid1 | September 28, 2009 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Vinny Cerrato is a scientologist.

Take one look at his eyes for confirmation.

The relationship between Tom Cruise and Dan Snyder also raises eyebrows, obviously.

What other explanation is there for the curious choice of Jim Zen as HC?

Posted by: Chia_Pet | September 28, 2009 11:26 AM | Report abuse

How can he when he ain't getting fed the ball and you keep Betts/Cartwright in the game.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | September 28, 2009 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Truth. I like that people on here call him garbage or washed up. How many successful running backs in the league are consistently asked to break tackles in the backfield?

It's hard to put up #'s when your opportunities are cut, your line can't run block, and everyone in the world knows which side your going to run to.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | September 28, 2009 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Really? Fire Zorn? Who's the Messiah? Shanahan, Gruden? Please. Gruden won a Super Bowl with Tony Dungy's team. We all saw what happened with "His Teams". Shanahan? Couldn't beat Baylor without Elway at QB. Trust me HOF QB's make any coach look like a genius. Holmgren? Insert Favre for Elway in the previous remark. His Seahawks were living off of the pathetic NFC West. They were handed a playoff berth by default every season. Cowher? One title in 15yrs. WOW! Let's rush out and get him. Probably if you left Zorn here for 15yrs and let him pick his coaches and players he would win a Super Bowl too.

And as far as Campbell, he is the 9th rated QB in the league. Sanchez? Cutler? 15 and 16 respectively. So let's not lay this at his feet. How about we address the elephant in the room. They can't run the football. Portis is done. Gibbs ran him into the ground. He has nothing left. But since he's paid like a stud back everyone thinks he still is. The line can't run block and barely provides adequate pass protection. Last I checked that is Bugles responsibility. Remember him? A Gibbs guy. He's just collecting a paycheck at this point. Or he knows he has nothing to work with, which is probably the case.

Please do yourself a favor. Just walk away. I have been a Skins fan for 30+ years. Until Snyder takes his greedy little paws of the controls this team will NEVER WIN. I refuse to live and die with this franchise on a weekly basis anymore. There is no long-term plan from this front office. And the short-term plan is obviously to line the owners pocket with money. How else do you explain the Haynesworth signing? The Jason Taylor trade? Never drafting O-lineman with any type of pedigree? The last one was Samuels 10yrs ago. Send the message to Snyder and Vinny. Stop wasting your money and stop going to games. When it hits them in the Wallet they may finally listen. Otherwise why would they change anything?

Posted by: renhoekk2 | September 28, 2009 11:27 AM | Report abuse

He's either brutally honest, doesn't care what people think, or he drunk tweets. Not sure which, but he can be entertaining at times.

Posted by: will_ga | September 28, 2009 11:11 AM | Report abuse
Why does that have to be either or? With wine comes truth.

===
Re Vic's bobbled joke. I hear that they we're going to give away 1 Jim Zorn bobble-head on November 1st.

Posted by: alex35332 | September 28, 2009 11:27 AM | Report abuse

I bet Hall is talking about Landry, I cant stand to see that joker make a tackle. He comes in makes a tackle on somebody's ankles and then jumps up and stares them down like he just did something. Then he stays taking the wrong angles and whiffing on potential big hits.

I say move Landry back to SS and put Kareem Moore at FS. Let horton play SLB on some downs.

I dont understand how you cant come up with a creative play call on defense or offense.

I mean you have orakpo, wilson, jarmon, and carter. why dont we see all of these people on the field at one time. I mean you could have carter at jarmon at the DE's and Orakpo and Wilson as stand up blitzing LB's. I mean that is a pass rush. We always run this generic defense, where is the blitzing,and confusion.

Posted by: GreatOne1 | September 28, 2009 11:28 AM | Report abuse

FIRE CERRATO
HIRE PARCELLS
COME ON LETS ALL GET THE CHANT GOING

Posted by: jj44skins | September 28, 2009 11:29 AM | Report abuse

http://realredskins.com/2009/09/mentally-soft.html

Posted by: 4thFloor | September 28, 2009 11:21 AM

Mental toughness. Who can bring that here.

Posted by: TWISI | September 28, 2009 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, JC is 9th on my list of reasons why we suck.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | September 28, 2009 11:17 AM


Dude, you gotta get play calling higher on the last than 10! I'll try my hand at it:

1. Snyder meddling in player personnel
2. Snyder befriending players
3. Snyder getting away from Redskin tradition
4. Cerrato
5. O-line
6. Zorn's play calling
7. Zorn's general coaching
8. Player indifference/attitude
9. Lack of discipline
10. Team morale

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 28, 2009 11:29 AM | Report abuse

flound, thanks, thats what I thought about JC....thanks...

any QB's coming out of contracts after this season that would be worth bringing in? I just can't see JC being here next year....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 28, 2009 11:30 AM | Report abuse

The relationship between Tom Cruise and Dan Snyder also raises eyebrows, obviously.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | September 28, 2009 11:26 AM |
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I agree. If he was going to have a film star as a buddy, why couldn't it be someone cool like Christopher Walken?

A guy who delivers lines like, "You're talking to my guy all wrong. Do that again, and I'm going to stab you in the face with a soldering iron."

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | September 28, 2009 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Our 2009 Draft:
1 - B. Orakpo
2 - Jason Taylor (courtesy Dolphins)
3 - K. Barnes
4 - P. Kendall (courtesy Jets)
5 - G. Cody
6 - R. Henderson
7 - E. Williams
7 - M. Mitchell

From this group we got 3 no longer with the team, 1 starter, 3 inactives, and 1 practice squad.

Posted by: RITCA | September 28, 2009 11:15 AM | Report abuse

2008

trade 1st round for two seconds
2- thomas, davis, kelly
3- traded, reinhardt
4- traded (duckett), tryon
5- traded
6- brooks, moore, brenan
7 -jackson, horton

only 1 real contributor from this class. two no longer w/ the team. 1 on IR.

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | September 28, 2009 11:31 AM | Report abuse

beeps

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 28, 2009 11:32 AM | Report abuse

excuse me let me rephrase that "Dan Snyder Shot and Killed by Crazed Fan." Don't miss.

Posted by: peoplearestupid1 | September 28, 2009 11:32 AM | Report abuse

As you all know I have been a big supporter of JC. I still think that he is a good QB, however it time to move on. I want Dan to blow things up including Vinny and start rebuilding. That said rebuild with a new QB. JC to me is done here knowing that Dan really wants another QB has mess with his head. I do think he will do very well with another team. I hoping with get Bradford.

Posted by: jm220 | September 28, 2009 11:12 AM


I am disappointed in you JM220.....lol

Posted by: 4thFloor | September 28, 2009 11:32 AM | Report abuse

When you lose a game like this, everybody deserves blame.

The defense was just awful, especially in the first half. They continue to play a style that is short on attacking and long on reacting. Blech.

Seems like Zorn felt the pressure of all the no TD talk when he went for it on 4th and one. Though I think a team should expect to get a yard against Detroit when they really need it, it's just the first drive of the game; first quarter. Take the points.

I doubt Snyder will fire Zorn before the end of the season, but anything is possible. It seems he would have the support of the majority of fans here on this site anyways if he cut ties with Zorn now.

I'm curious now what will happen this coming week when the Redskins come out of the tunnel at Fed Ex. Will they boo? If they booed them off the field after the Rams, how can't they boo them on with that debacle last week (when they didn't get the chance to show 'em how they feel)?

Zorn needs to find a way to rally these guys. You would think he would take a "it's us against the world" stand in order to invigorate the team, but you would have thought that last week after they took a fair amount of abuse.

Forget the X's and O's. If Z man can't rally his troops, it will be a fugly season. If he can, there is plenty of time to right the ship.

Posted by: shaunsherman12 | September 28, 2009 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Beep beep

Posted by: Flounder21 | September 28, 2009 11:33 AM | Report abuse

So far whatever is "Typical" has not worked. Period.

I need to go out and buy some more clipboards.

Posted by: BrokenClipboard | September 28, 2009 11:37 AM | Report abuse

No one should be blaming the defense.

That 99-yd drive is on the coach. The D stopped the drive. The HC gave Detroit another chance. At the end of the day, the Lions only scored 19 pts. The O can't score in first half or tally 20 pts in a whole game against the Lions.

These two plays say it all for me:

1) Stafford's touchdown to Johnson. CR22 stays with Johnson and has pretty good inside coverage. Stafford throws it up to Johnson's outside shoulder allowing receiver to jump up and make a play. Los can't reach back to affect pass.

2) 1st and 9 - Campbell's "fade" to Kelly. JC has no touch and Kelly has no chance to make play over DB.

And look at the season stats for the offense and defense (as represented by opponents' offensive production).

http://www.nfl.com/teams/washingtonredskins/statistics?team=WAS

Posted by: learnedhand1 | September 28, 2009 11:37 AM | Report abuse

The Redskins were just doing their patriotic duty and following in Obama's lead in helping to revitalize Detroit. Obama bailed out their auto industry and we bailed out their football team.
Beat Tampa and we are 500.
Bandwagon fans jump now it will be a more enjoyable ride without you!

Posted by: LogicNotRequired | September 28, 2009 11:37 AM | Report abuse

I don't get the "running left" criticism. We can all agree that running right won't work, because Heyer's "excuse me" run blocking couldn't move an old lady off the ball and Rhino isn't going to maul anyone either. So if we cant run effectively to the right, the staff's only choice is run left or don't run at all, isn't it?

To me all Zorn can do in the run game is exactly what he is doing: lean heavily to the left and run right (and get stuffed) just a couple of times in the hope of catching to the defense off guard. The inability to run right is on Cerrato, not Zorn.

Posted by: mhaslup1 | September 28, 2009 11:43 AM | Report abuse

My thoughts after watching the game yesterday:

1. Heyer is garbage. He was getting shoved all over the field on running and passing plays.

2. Betts is garbage. He lacks field and situational awareness. He lacks explosion, vision, power, and heart. The guy gets tackled by his own shoelaces.

3. D.Hall couldn't cover himself with a blanket.

4. Whoever thought it was a good idea to have our safeties covering the Lions wideouts in single man coverage is a lunatic.

5. If Fred Smoot plays any further off his man he'd be lined up in the stands. I'd almost rather have Tryon in there!

6. It's impossible to run the ball effectively when you only run left. Much like that 4th and 1 (terrible call), the Lions simply committed to an overload blitz on the left side of our line.

7. It's impossible to run the ball effectively when you only hand it off 14 times in the game.

8. Jason Campbell looks good when the training wheels are taken off. He can't lock onto recievers like he did when he threw the pick though. It's about time we take advantage of his mobility though to utilize roll-outs and bootlegs.

9. Someone needs to teach the receivers how to beat single man coverage. Seems like Moss and Cooley are the only ones who can do it.

10. Zorn can not create an effective gameplan to save his life.

11. Zorn couldn't motivate a two year old to eat ice-cream.

12. Zorn needs someone who is not retarded to call the plays as it seems he lacks that qualification.

13. We should replace Heyer with BMW. He sucks at pass blocking, but he seemed to run block better than Heyer. Since Heyer can't pass OR run block effectively, I see that as an overall improvement.

Posted by: ecale25 | September 28, 2009 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Mental toughness. Who can bring that here.

Posted by: TWISI | September 28, 2009 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Two words for you Russ Grimm!!!!!!!!

Posted by: rjohnson66 | September 28, 2009 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Vic1, your headline and story posts are hilarious, almost credible and the only good things I've seen coming out of the debacle yesterday. Keep up the good work. You should write for the Onion, but just in case you can't, could you play right guard or be an offensive coordinator?

Posted by: boothintexas | September 28, 2009 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Vic1, your headline and story posts are hilarious, almost credible and the only good things I've seen coming out of the debacle yesterday. Keep up the good work. You should write for the Onion, but just in case you can't, could you play right guard or be an offensive coordinator?

Posted by: boothintexas | September 28, 2009 3:22 PM | Report abuse

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