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Some NFC East Team Is Gonna Be Unhappy

The Redskins' win in Dallas makes the NFL's most competitive division that much more intriguing. Which NFC East team won't make the playoffs is today's topic in The League.

By Cindy Boren  |  September 29, 2008; 12:35 PM ET
 
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Would love for it to be Dallas, but we'll see. Think it Philly may be starting down that unwinning road again...

Posted by: suzannepdc | September 29, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

first

Posted by: Flounder21 | September 29, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Hail!

Posted by: COskins | September 29, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

So many things to be pleased with today. Offense appears to be headed in a very good direction, defense has played well. Fletch wont let people rest on the day off. Zorn is calling plays like a 10 year vet, Suisham is hitting field goals.

Good times.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | September 29, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Easiest cut to get to this 53 man roster was Frost. There will be no one to blame after he is cut from GB and will be out of FB work from that point on.

And Brooks is only going to get better!

Posted by: Curzon417 | September 29, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

It's Monday...stay nimble...

Posted by: Cindy Boren | September 29, 2008 12:38 PM | Report abuse

It's Skins football ... stay medium ...

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2008/09/morning_look_jim_zorn_stays_me.html

Posted by: dcsween | September 29, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

"And at least for one day, the Redskins looked like the team to beat in the NFC East. Or maybe the Cowboys are simply overrated." From the ESPN article.

Dont get me wrong I love me some skins, but statements like this comfirm that the world champion Giants are still being overlooked by the media. The sports media's obsession with the cowboys is ridiculous and I am sure it is fuel for the fire in the Giants locker room. That was a great win yesterday, but until we beat the G-men I still think they are the team to beat in the east. Right now I would rank the NFC East as follows
1. Giants
2. Redskins
3.Cowgirls
4.Eagles

Posted by: Brutus2 | September 29, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Lets not sleep on Eagles, it will be another huge challenge this week...

All 4 teams are very good, going to be a street brawl...tape up the phone books, grow the nails, cut the hair off, shine the brass knuckles, vasaline the limbs, sharpen the shank!

Posted by: chrislarry | September 29, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Really difficult to rule any of these teams out... we're only four weeks in... but unless and until the league adopts my highly sensible proposal that our division, in the event all four of its teams are worthy, be awarded the heretofore guaranteed playoff berth for the winner of a clearly lesser division in the conference (I'm looking at you, Seattle or whoever "wins" the NFC West), at least one of these teams will be ringing in the new year on the couch.

And I think it's silly for any of us to assume that the Skins are entitled to a playoff berth because of this big win yesterday, as great as it was. Play with that kind of fire for the next 10 weeks and we'll talk.

Much more realistic to think we'll have some ups and downs...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | September 29, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Great Great WIN

What I loved:
Zorn's play calling
Portis and the O-line making the run game very effective
Campbell and another zero turnover game
Campbell and another day of accurate throws
The Skins defense, for 56 minutes
Chris Horton!!
The team's attitude and focus


What I liked:
Betts
Thrash making a catch
Suisham making 4 FGs, even if one was too close
ARE on punt returns, see what happens when you go forward?
Carlos Rogers
The pressure on Romo

What I didn't like
2 times a TD called back (though I never saw the 'holds'
Our defense in the last minutes of both halves, those late scores were both too easy

Posted by: zcezcest1 | September 29, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

I posted this earlier Fletch. is a great leader on and off the field, they do not have time or cause to celebrate they need to focus on the Eagles.

Zorn is great at press conferences he is fun to listen to.

Posted by: Flounder21 | September 29, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

"And at least for one day, the Redskins looked like the team to beat in the NFC East. Or maybe the Cowboys are simply overrated." From the ESPN article.

Dont get me wrong I love me some skins, but statements like this comfirm that the world champion Giants are still being overlooked by the media. The sports media's obsession with the cowboys is ridiculous and I am sure it is fuel for the fire in the Giants locker room. That was a great win yesterday, but until we beat the G-men I still think they are the team to beat in the east. Right now I would rank the NFC East as follows
1. Giants
2. Redskins
3.Cowgirls
4.Eagles

Posted by: Brutus2 | September 29, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Marion Barber vs. Redskins

12/18/05 30 yards 0 TD
09/17/06 39 yards 1 TD
11/05/06 45 yards 0 TD
11/18/07 43 yards 0 TD
12/30/07 -6 yards 0 TD
09/28/08 26 yards 0 TD

Total: 177 yards 1 TD

Portis last 2 games vs. Dallas
225 yards 2 TDs

Posted by: WhySoSerious | September 29, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

ESPN's name should be changed to Dallas' Sport Show. On 1st take, they had two segments on Owens and nothing on the Skins during the Skip Baylis show. Stephen A was on and did not want to talk about the Skins, then only made excuses for Owens' behavior. What a punk!

F ESPN!!

Posted by: Curzon417 | September 29, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Would love for it to be Dallas, but we'll see. Think it Philly may be starting down that unwinning road again...

Posted by: suzannepdc | September 29, 2008 12:44 PM

No no no. That's trap thinking. This week is no different than last week preparation-wise, except the Philly has better LBs than Dallas. [Better defense all around.]

Also, how long is Westbrook out? From what I could tell last night, Buckhalter looked re-injured (I turned it off after that).

Agree with Nate about how Week Four is way way to early to be thinking about anything other than Week Five. The final division rankings in the NFC East reflect who remains healthiest for the longest.

Posted by: dcsween | September 29, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

I'm hearing alot of the talking heads say that Dallas didn't go to the run enough. If they did their homework, I think they'd see that the Skins have been doing a pretty good job bottling up Barber. Last year when we played the 'Girls Barber had 43 yds on 15 carries followed by his whopping -6 yard rushing game at FedEx. What had always killed us was TO and Witten. Maybe Dallas didn't go to the run b/c they know we have Barber's number?

Posted by: p1funk | September 29, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

No doubt Philly is gonna represent a huge challenge. After watching the game last night, their blitz package is gonna be tough to counter. The LB's are playing well, really well right now. Coles/Thomas their DE's are also playing well, the type of fast guys that give Samuels trouble.

I think they can be run on however, I think their DL is somewhat light, and can be moved around. I want to see Moss TORCH Samuel however...

Posted by: BeantownGreg | September 29, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Zorn def does not know Redskins history.....

But that's ok...

Posted by: 4thFloor | September 29, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

How good are the Skins?

Combined record of the Skins opponents (AZ, NYG, NO and dal) in the games they played other teams:

10-2

Combined record against the Skins
1-3

Posted by: zcezcest1 | September 29, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Scary thing about the skins.. They basically are playing with just one reciever right now.. No disrespect to "EL". But he and thrash arent really 2 and 3 recievers... This thing could get scary if we can ever get Devin and Malcom going...

Posted by: cocodc1 | September 29, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

6) Skins O-line owned that 4th quarter drive to kill the game. Good old fashion slobber-knocking with plenty of runs up the middle.

7) My last memory of Texas Stadium: Jerry Jones trying to whince with dismay through his botoxed face after Sam Hurd muffs the onside.

Posted by: p1funk | September 29, 2008 9:14 AM |
Classic!!!

Posted by: Brutus2 | September 29, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

F5 ZORNADO!

Posted by: Zornado | September 29, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Stephen A. A standing for A-Hole why is he even commenting on football he knows nothing about it.

TO is a punk and a crybaby and people that take up for him are A-Holes.

ESPN is a joke with there coverage no one on there ever admits they were wrong, let them keep talking Dallas we do not need them.

Posted by: Flounder21 | September 29, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Nice post showing Barber's numbers, WhySoSerious. Looks like you already did the research while I was trying to peck up my post.

Anyhow, given those numbers I'd like to hear some talking heads stop saying: "I don't understand why Dallas didn't use their running game more."

Posted by: p1funk | September 29, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Whyso, thanks for posting the Barber stats. That alone, to me, is proof that he's somewhat overrated, and the fact that he's been outrushed by Portis in only 2 games, proves that Portis is way under-rated.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | September 29, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

No no no. That's trap thinking. This week is no different than last week preparation-wise, except the Philly has better LBs than Dallas. [Better defense all around.]

Also, how long is Westbrook out? From what I could tell last night, Buckhalter looked re-injured (I turned it off after that).

Agree with Nate about how Week Four is way way to early to be thinking about anything other than Week Five. The final division rankings in the NFC East reflect who remains healthiest for the longest.

Posted by: dcsween | September 29, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse
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Sween - I agree with you (I would just prefer that we're not the ones on the outside looking in). I just think that if Philly doesn't step up the way they need to, they will start finding ways to lose games in general. I am nervous for our game on sunday. I have watched WAY too many Skins/Eagles games that are decided on the last minute FG.

I also think the Giants love that no one is paying attention to them and hasn't since the season started - just adds more fuel to the fire - will be an interesting next few weeks to see how things shake out.

I do love that our division is undefeated outside of the division, but it makes these games (and our win yesterday) so much more important!

Posted by: suzannepdc | September 29, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

They didn't even try to run with Felix Jones either. Not once. Don't understand that at all.

The key for the skins will be staying healthy. Lack of depth at LB might hurt particularly with Washington appearing to struggle. But for now HTTR and don't overlook the iggles who might be feeling a little desperate after last night.

Posted by: skinswest | September 29, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

My biggest complaint with Zorn at this point is his post game celebration...."hip hip Hooray" is the best he can come up with???

I have trouble seeing Portis, Smoot and Santizzle getting on board with that post game cheer.

Love everything else about this team!!!

Posted by: NaptownSkins | September 29, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Philly has a good defense but remeber they gave up 41 to the Cowpies and barber had a good game.

They gave up 20 something to the Bears, so I think our defense is better then theres

There defense has had one good game and that was against Pittsburgh who is not that dynamic on offense.

Posted by: Flounder21 | September 29, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

I don't think Barber is overrated, I just think Garrett is waaay too overconfident in Romo/TO/Witten. Barber is the engine that keeps that team moving. When he's off, their team's off. When he's on, their team's on. Not really much different than Portis. The difference comes because Gibbs was so committed to the run that he would pound Portis even when the run seemed "ineffective". So far, Zorn seems close to the same way.

But I'll agree that Portis is definitely underrated, and in no way is Barber better than Portis.

Posted by: psps23 | September 29, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

We're at 249,365 posts....fyi.

Posted by: Cindy Boren | September 29, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

If we can get out of Philly with a win, how great will it be to be 2-1 in the division with only home divisional games remaining?

Posted by: CBT2 | September 29, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

I do love that our division is undefeated outside of the division, but it makes these games (and our win yesterday) so much more important!

Posted by: suzannepdc

Our division is not undefeated anymore since Pholdadelphia collapsed in Chicago.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | September 29, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Who starts versus Philly, Heyer, or Jansen, looking ahead to next Sunday. While I like Heyer, I was more than impressed with JJ, and that mean streak, and the run game to the right side is HUGE!!

Posted by: BeantownGreg | September 29, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

As the guy on this board who kept saying we should have gotten Anquan Boldin ... I was watching that game (Fitzgerald is on my FF team and I was hoping to get some last second points) when Boldin took that hit at the end. So frightening.

The little I've read said he is going to be OK, but my best wishes to Q for his full and speedy recovery

Posted by: zcezcest1 | September 29, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

I do love that our division is undefeated outside of the division, but it makes these games (and our win yesterday) so much more important!

Posted by: suzannepdc

Our division is not undefeated anymore since Pholdadelphia collapsed in Chicago.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | September 29, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

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Oops. As of 8:15pm last night, this was true!

Posted by: suzannepdc | September 29, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

We're at 249,365 posts....fyi.

Posted by: Cindy Boren | September 29, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Take that, Vinny!

Signed,
Jason LaCanfora

(Sorry, I couldn't resist.)

Posted by: p1funk | September 29, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

If Heyer is healthy, they may favor him due to Phillies pass rush...

Posted by: chrislarry | September 29, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

We're at 249,365 posts....fyi.

Posted by: Cindy Boren | September 29, 2008 1:21 PM

Cindy,

To bad we won if we had lost that number would be about twice as much, that haters are no were to be found today.

No Cork, Al or Sports_dodo

Posted by: Flounder21 | September 29, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: Cindy Boren | September 29, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Who starts versus Philly, Heyer, or Jansen, looking ahead to next Sunday. While I like Heyer, I was more than impressed with JJ, and that mean streak, and the run game to the right side is HUGE!!

Heyer. He won the job fair and square, and he provides precisely what will be needed against that blitzing defense -- pass protection. Maybe we'll begin to see a RT-by-committee scheme. Heyer starts out helping the pass offense set the tempo, Jansen comes in fresh in the second half to pound the defense into submission.

Posted by: psps23 | September 29, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Stephen A Smith is still on TV? Is there anyone less relivent in life that a 4 foot 5 inch racist know-nothing.

Posted by: Pleepleus | September 29, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

As the guy on this board who kept saying we should have gotten Anquan Boldin ... I was watching that game (Fitzgerald is on my FF team and I was hoping to get some last second points) when Boldin took that hit at the end. So frightening.

The little I've read said he is going to be OK, but my best wishes to Q for his full and speedy recovery

Posted by: zcezcest1 | September 29, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Is anyone listening to what Doc Walker is talking about on 980?? Abuse, playing like gangsters, what? is he seriously saying we disrespected Dallas??

Posted by: realchica | September 29, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

DOC is killing me with how sarcastic he is being about the game, he is saying the Skins should be fined by the league for how bad they beat up dallas.

Said Springs should be arrested for beating up poor TO.

Posted by: Flounder21 | September 29, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

I totally agree with you Flounder21, all this talk of violence against "our family"? Sounds ridiculous to me, it was definitely a brutal game but it's cowboys/redskins....we always have physical matches!

I don't understand all this talk of disrespecting them in their house...if we were disrespecting them so much why didn't they stand up and defend their home turf??

Posted by: realchica | September 29, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

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