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Spags To Interview Tuesday

League sources said Steve Spagnuolo, the Giants defensive coordinator, will meet with Dan Snyder and Vinny Cerrato tomorrow to formally interview for Washington's head coaching vacancy.

He is likely to be the last person to do so. Jim Fassel has been the front runner but this process has been in flux and things could be changing post-Super Bowl.

Stay tuned/

By Jason La Canfora  |  February 4, 2008; 10:54 AM ET
 
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what happened to mooch?

Posted by: robpilkerton | February 4, 2008 10:59 AM | Report abuse

2nd?

Posted by: jwlemons | February 4, 2008 11:00 AM | Report abuse

i'd take spags

Posted by: psps23 | February 4, 2008 11:01 AM | Report abuse

thinkin' 'bout givin' up fball for lent . . .

Posted by: skinsfan8KaboveMSL | February 4, 2008 11:01 AM | Report abuse

thinkin' 'bout givin' up fball for lent . . .

Posted by: skinsfan8KaboveMSL | February 4, 2008 11:01 AM

Wow....as a Redskin fan, you cant give up football for Lent. This is the time of year that we make the most noise. We are the King of February/March football. It is the draft in April, training camp, and the season that we should be skipping out on.

Posted by: drbatchelor | February 4, 2008 11:04 AM | Report abuse

"what happened to mooch?"

He might as well said "It ain't me" when the others on the NFL networked pressed him about it.

He was really wishy-washy, but for all intents and purposes he said as much.

I'm gonna be really unhappy if it's Fassel. I'll take Meeks or Spags any day over that guy.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | February 4, 2008 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Let's not go ga-ga over Spags just yet. Don't forget, it's easy to look like a genius when you can rush only 4-5 guys and get an a$$ load of pressure. That allows you to play 6-7 back in coverage.

No doubt he is a fine coach, however, he is afforded many more options when you can rush Strahan, Uminyoura, Tuck, and Robbins.

Here he isn't afforded that luxury....nobody is confusing Montgomery, Carter, Daniels, Colston, etc for the Jints D-Line

Posted by: cej75024 | February 4, 2008 11:07 AM | Report abuse

I'd have taken Spags 3 weeks ago, but not now that Blache is in place. Both will want to call the shots on defense so that relationship just won't work. It'll be Fassel or Marriuci.

Posted by: tartanskin | February 4, 2008 11:07 AM | Report abuse

thanks for the update jasno.

I will most definitely stayed tuned/

Posted by: Dorf | February 4, 2008 11:10 AM | Report abuse

I still can't figure out why Spagz would want to coach here.

Pros:

1. Money and lots of it.
2. HCing giggs. Because of the Fickle nature of "hot" candidates in the NFL you can't afford to turn down too many HC giggs because you may not get another shot.


Cons:

1. The owner also likes to play GM.
2. Your Coordinators have already been hired.
3. The Midget from Maryland has a penchant for firing people quickish.
4. Salary Cap hell.
5. Competitive division.
6. Aging D in key positions.
7. Fickle fanbase.
8. Following a legend.
9. Did I mention the idiot owner?

and number 10....
Two Words: Vincent Cerrato

Posted by: Skinz | February 4, 2008 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Our next HC will be a guy who is desperate for a new job and will just take the first HC vacancy he gets offered. That guy is not Spagnuolo as he can now afford the luxury of waiting until a job comes along that he really wants.

Posted by: tartanskin | February 4, 2008 10:58 AM

You're smoking something, aren't you?

This is a pretty choice job that the 'Skins are offering. It's a playoff team -- not Atlanta, Miami, or Baltimore. HC on playoff teams doesn't come up often, usually only after Marty's been fired.

It's NFC East -- high prominence and visiblity. This is where Spaghetti is at home. Not Seattle or Arizona.

It pays a better salary than most head coaching jobs, and it comes with an owner who will buy any players that the coach wants. It's not Cincinnati or Minnesota where they're always under the cap.

Many of the drawbacks that would keep you from taking the job (assistant coaches) can be negotiated with a big spending owner.

And, it's in Washington. We've got Lindsey Czarniak covering the practices.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 4, 2008 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Wow (from profootballtalk):

POSTED 5:39 a.m. EST, February 4, 2008

BEST WISHES TO LEN

We've been advised that ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli underwent quintuple heart bypass surgery on Saturday at St. Joseph's Hospital and Medical Center in Phoenix. We wish him a quick and full recovery.

A source who was in the room tells us that Len was showing all of the symptoms of heart trouble during the Hall of Fame voting on Saturday -- shortness of breath, pale, shivering.

"He was absolutely suffering through the voting, and he stayed in that room," the source said. "I begged him to just fill out his ballots, leave, and get to a hospital. But he not only stayed, he wrote a story on the voting afterward. When he finally sought medical help, he was rushed into surgery." ...

Posted by: dcsween | February 4, 2008 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Skinz,

Love the pro/cons...in almost full agreement except:

7. Fickle fanbase.

I don't see that one...cranky, whiny, demanding, tempremental....

but fickle...?

but whateves...nice work!

chris LARRY

Posted by: clawrence | February 4, 2008 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Spags is hot now, but so was Norv Turner once upon a time. Mooch would be OK, but the 'Skins need it to be Russ Grimm. Maybe if I yell it loud and long enough, Snyder will hear me (it should be easier since he cleared all those trees in Potomac).

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 4, 2008 11:15 AM | Report abuse

"what happened to mooch?"

He might as well said "It ain't me" when the others on the NFL networked pressed him about it.

He was really wishy-washy ...


Posted by: rmcazz | February 4, 2008 11:07 AM

"Really wishy washy" sounds like he has the chops to fit in perfectly with the Skins FO.

Posted by: dcsween | February 4, 2008 11:15 AM | Report abuse

NONE of this would be an issue if Snyder and company just went with GWilliams and lived up to the talk about continuity.

Oh well - at least the final curtain is about to happen on this awful month...lets get this over with already.

Posted by: Stevida | February 4, 2008 11:16 AM | Report abuse

I believe someone brought up the point already but whoever/whomever will be the new coach needs to be announced post haste...

There needs to be some serious sit down time between the new coaches and a clear direction set to be ready for draft-free agency...

Posted by: trailblazer658 | February 4, 2008 11:18 AM | Report abuse

I don't want to seem like a homer....but...

let's not reduce the nature of this gig yet...while this is a tough period, i believe there are many more than just 2 pros...

1. Still a top-rated franchise in this league
2. Young QB with still more upside.
3. You don't have to "start over" with this team. If he went after Miami, Atl, Oak, etc....these are teams that you have to start from scratch. We are closer to winning than they are.
4. Yes Snyder can meddle into business, however, he also is willing to spend money. Other owners look at the bottom line and won't go after players believed to help.


Anyhow, lets not be toooo quick to diminish our pro's ......YET !

Posted by: cej75024 | February 4, 2008 11:19 AM | Report abuse

By Tuesday, Spags will be annointed Giants head coach in waiting, and will not be a candidate for the Skins' job.

Posted by: mike8 | February 4, 2008 11:20 AM | Report abuse

"This is a pretty choice job that the 'Skins are offering."

Really, Talent Evaluator? A job that includes a meddling owner, a personel guy in way over his head, and a roster that is old and overpriced (particularly on defense)? That's a choice job? Yeah, they made the playoffs, but that's more a tribute to Gibbs than it is any kudos to the way this team is built. They have enough talent to make the playoffs on accident every 5 years or so, but they will never do it with any consistency. And if Spags or anyone else with out big name recognition takes this job, they won't be here long enough to find out.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 4, 2008 11:21 AM | Report abuse

NONE of this would be an issue if Snyder and company just went with GWilliams and lived up to the talk about continuity.

Posted by: Stevida | February 4, 2008 11:16 AM

And none of it would have been an issue if Gibbs had honored his contract. And if the Queen of Hearts had balls she would have been the King. Etc.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 4, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

Does JLA ever had any inside info? These post have been so lame. Yahoo posted last night the Skins were meeting with Spags on Tuesday.. Does JLA actually get paid for this? No inside info on the Mooch intervieww at all?? Keeping up with this blog is becoming a complete waste of time!! PICK IT UP JLA and do your F ING JOB!!!

Posted by: greg_hughes90 | February 4, 2008 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Hopefully Len has a full recovery. Sorry to hear that. His writing still sucks, and he still carries a grudge against the Redskins. But I wish him well.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 4, 2008 11:23 AM | Report abuse

That's actually pretty shocking about Wilbon and now about Pasquarelli. Don't these guys ever have annual physicals?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 4, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

sam3, if its any comfort, I will stop talking about Snydermanbashi for the rest of the day.

[From the last post} I've postponed announcing this ... because I didn't want to distract from the Championship game, but I am attaching below a link to the ENTIRE Skins 2007 season in haiku format.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2007/08/jc_says_he_will_play.html#comments

It is one thing to be able to post "first," but it is another thing (and truly grueling) to post last. Special kudos to daggar (aka cload and daggar) and MV Dame. The haikuing starts around 6pm on August 16th ... during the preseason and ends after William's 4th interview for the HC spot.

Posted by: dcsween | February 4, 2008 11:27 AM | Report abuse

I will always be an eternal optimist for my beloved skins...

To say this is a "choice" gig for any head coaching candidate may be an overstatemnet.
I don't want to rehash what has already been said but there is some serious cons to taking this job. Sure Snyder is willing to spend money but he is taking his personel cues from a guy that quite simply does not know football. It all goes back to picking your OC/DC before your coach. If you have full confidence in your HEAD coach than he should be the one calling the shots.

The reason you don't see any other teams hiring their coordinators before their? It's a bad idea...

Posted by: trailblazer658 | February 4, 2008 11:27 AM | Report abuse

I got the date and time wrong. Here are the posts that threw down the gauntlet to be "last".
______________

Last! Stop posting helpful tips hidden behind old post!

Posted by: 4th | August 28, 2007 04:29 PM

I still say pushing on your hemmy is the best solution. Last!!

Posted by: pseudonym | August 28, 2007 04:38 PM

Posted by: pseudonym | August 28, 2007 04:38 PM

I can be here all day buddy......

Posted by: 4th | August 28, 2007 04:40 PM

Posted by: dcsween | February 4, 2008 11:30 AM | Report abuse

You're smoking something, aren't you?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 4, 2008 11:13 AM

HaHa! I wish I was smoking something talent evaluator but unfortunately workplace rules forbid it!!

I totally appreciate what your saying but I just think a lot of prospective HC candidates will worry about coming into a franchise and not being able to choose his own assistants - particularly a first time HC. If I were a first time HC I'd want people around me that I was sure I could trust and work with. But then that's just me - maybe I'm insecure.

Posted by: tartanskin | February 4, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

And none of it would have been an issue if Gibbs had honored his contract. And if the Queen of Hearts had balls she would have been the King. Etc.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 4, 2008 11:22 AM

snyder didn't have a choice with gibbs. he had one with williams.

Posted by: psps23 | February 4, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

I could think of 5 million reasons why this would be a good gig, regardless....

Posted by: carocanesfan | February 4, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Or should I say 20 million reasons why it would be a good gig. (5 per for 4 years...guaranteed)

Posted by: carocanesfan | February 4, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Just call Cowher and give him 50 mil over 5 years.. PLEASE

Posted by: greg_hughes90 | February 4, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

I don't want to rehash what has already been said but there is some serious cons to taking this job.


Posted by: trailblazer658 | February 4, 2008 11:27 AM


No doubt, there is a lot of craziness happening right now. There are some things that need to be worked out and things that need fixing.

My opinion is that I would rather work with and for Upper Management that my get things wrong, but has the desire to at least try to make it work. Rather than a system that has the owner/Gm/whomever in an office that only studies the P/L sheet to make football decisions.

We may just have to agree to disagree on this one, but, i still believe this is still a prime job.

Posted by: cej75024 | February 4, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

You guys knocking the 'Skins job need to spend a little less time reading each others' negative posts. Where is this coaching nirvanna that is looking for a new head coach?

Meddlesome owners? They're all over the league. That's why they became NFL owners.

Below average personnel guys -- that's half the personnel guys in the league.

There are only four or five of these jobs that come up every year, and most of them are with losing franchises. If you're a hot coach, you have to strike while the iron is hot. Tom Coughlin's not going anywhere anytime soon, and Spagnoulo's already served a long apprenticeship.

If the 'Skins really want him, then he can negotiate what he wants -- assistant coaches, personnel decisions. And if he can't get what he thinks he needs to succeed, then either he has to compromise (have any of you ever had to compromise?) or wait for a better offer. When, exactly, will that be coming up?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 4, 2008 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Just call Cowher and give him 50 mil over 5 years.. PLEASE

Posted by: greg_hughes90 | February 4, 2008 11:38 AM

That won't do us any good because Snyder won't give him 14 years to win a Super Bowl like the Rooneys did. Besides, with Green Bay losing this year, now the Redskins have the best home playoff record of all time (14-2), and we don't need Cowher ruining that (IF he could get this team to the playoffs).

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 4, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

I nominate Anthony Mix. Poor dude could have had a Super Bowl Ring as a rookie, and now all he's got is a few special teams hits and a recovery in a playoff game. The Redskins owe him one after snaring him off the Giants practice squad.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 4, 2008 10:54 AM

With the success of the Giants' drafting the thing to do is probably keep a keen eye on the Giants' practice squad.

Posted by: skinfanman | February 4, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Just call Cowher and give him 50 mil over 5 years.. PLEASE

Posted by: greg_hughes90 | February 4, 2008 11:38 AM

Cowher's going to coach the Cowherlina Panthers. He has no interest in this job.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 4, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

LETS GO SPAGS!!!

Posted by: AreYouKiddingMe1 | February 4, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

this is without doubt a prime job... short-term success-wise. i think any coach that gets the gig will be a playoff coach next year. there's too much talent on this team not to be. with the amount of bad-luck and injuries this team endured last season, we had no business being in the playoffs. we got there anyway. if we can stay even remotely healthy, we'll be a 10-win team next year (even in a division with no team sub-.500, the regular season nfc champs at 13-3, and the defending super bowl champs). you might say i'm crazy, but i truly believe that fassel, mooch, meeks, or spags will be successful as the HC next season. the real question will come 2-3 years down the road: will this FO structure and coaching hierarchy be able to consistently keep this roster and team in a position to win?

Posted by: psps23 | February 4, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

So Redskins will win the next superbowl. Since the last 2 time the Giants won the next year Redskins has won.
Yuppyyy!!!

Posted by: sepehr | February 4, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

I will say this last nights game made it apparent that defense still wins championships. In order to compete especially in the NFC East we need to improve on the our ability to get pressure on the QB.... I understand this is a John Maddenesque statement but still valid nonetheless. First round pick needs to be a young stud DE.

On the flip side of that is the ability to run and keep our QB upright. I initially thought we should go with the prototype big receiver in the 2nd round... Now I think we need to look at suring up the O line.

Hopefully we can pick up a big receiver in free agency or maybe even in the third round.

What say you?

Posted by: trailblazer658 | February 4, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Perhaps fickle isn't the word. Unforgiving and impatient perhaps is a better.

CEJ,

I agree with most of what you say. Starting over I'm not so sure about. This team can't start over because the salary cap won't let them but take a look at this team and tell me what's so great about this roster?

You have soup who COULD be a good qb. He's got an abundance of poise and arm strength. Other than that he's nothing exceptional. That is probably enough but I see him as a Hassleback or McNabb more than a Brady or Favre.

You have the makings of a very good safety in Landry and good TE in Cooley. What else is there?

Oline: Good but about to be 31.
Rest of the Oline is solid if unspectacular and old.

WR's: Injury prone, small and inomplete.

RB's: Portis is an upper echelon back but the way the NFL is going RB's are being devalued.

TE's: Cooley is a bright spot but may not flourish as a true TE instead of the hybrid H-Back he's been. He is small and not a great blocker.

Dline: Monty and Goldston are solid but nothing special, they could suprise but probably will never be dominant. Carter is a speed rush specialist. I think he'd be a 3rd down guy on alot of teams.

LB: Old or injury prone or both at all positions. Rocky has the body of a 30 year old.

DB's: Springs old, Smoot a decent CB but well into his prime, Rogers now coming off a major injury has been pretty good...i guess. Landry is a bright spot.

So Landry seems pretty solid, Cooley I love but we'll see how the new offense suits him. You have a massive cap number. I dunno I don't see how this job looks that great to anyone right now.

Posted by: Skinz | February 4, 2008 11:54 AM | Report abuse

why does everyone assume Cowher will win here? there are way too many factors to be able to predict with such certainty.

Posted by: DreamOutLoud | February 4, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Sorry I should really read my posts before posting.

Should read "Samuels" is about to be 31 for O-line.

WR's: Should read "incomplete"

Posted by: Skinz | February 4, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

barno

You did not predict that the Skins were going to the playoffs at 5-7! I remember, we just thought is was possible.

Posted by: mul | February 4, 2008 03:26 AM


I love how Barno's quote from when he predicted the Skins to make the playoffs from 5-7, came from Feb??

Posted by: kost52 | February 4, 2008 06:04 AM

Predicting skins to go to playoffs at 5-7 is what 90% of Redskinville Predicted.LOL
Barno and rest of Redskinville has Predicted SB & Playoffs till they are out Mathmatically every yr since 91 also?

Posted by: 1991solongago | February 4, 2008 06:59 AM

As much as the above posters would like to re-write history, the fact remains that there was one person on here talking playoffs less than 24 hours after the Redskins blew it against Buffalo to fall to 5-7....not "90% of Redskinsville" as some sorely mistaken fellow by the name of "1991solongago" now claims.

Go back and read the thread from right after the Buffalo game, then let's see if you still claim "90%" were talking playoffs.

Posted by: barno | February 4, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

"I will say this last nights game made it apparent that defense still wins championships. In order to compete especially in the NFC East we need to improve on the our ability to get pressure on the QB.... I understand this is a John Maddenesque statement but still valid nonetheless. First round pick needs to be a young stud DE."

I think it goes both ways. You hit it in your 2nd paragraph, but it's not just getting pressure on the opposing QB, but being able to keep your own QB upright. I've been defending JC the entire year on this point, but I'll rehash it again for the sake of comparison... no QB looks good when he spends every play looking up from the turf. The immortal Tom Brady proved that last night. I would personally be a fan of drafting o-line in the 1st 2 rounds, simply because our o-line is older and more injury-prone than our d-line. In any case, I think our #1, 2, 3...etc focus in the offseason should be both lines. Spending more money and time on finding another receiver won't do any good if JC doesn't have the time to throw it to him.

Posted by: psps23 | February 4, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

All right, talent_evaluator...

"Meddlesome owners? They're all over the league. That's why they became NFL owners."

Dan Snyder, Jerry Jones. That's it. That's the list. Everyone else let's their personel people handle hiring a coach, free agency, the draft. And that's how it's supposed to be.

"Below average personnel guys -- that's half the personnel guys in the league."

True. But even the below average guys laugh their asses off at Vinny because nobody else is trading away their draft picks at an alarming rate and playing Smithers to Snyder's Mr. Burns. The only time the 'Skins player acquisitions weren't a joke is when Gibbs had is hands in it.

"There are only four or five of these jobs that come up every year, and most of them are with losing franchises."

True again. But even those teams make their hires count once they do make a change, and don't have to go through it again in two years.

The bottom line is this: we can agree that the Redskins are one of the 3-5 most storied franchises in the NFL at worst. This is not an organization to flounder. And we haven't seen it do that until Snyder took it over. This team has become a punch line. Who else in recent memory has gone from feel-good playoff story to laughing stock in less than a month? And if we as biased fans can see that, what do you think a coach with no ties to the franchise (and for whom this is simply a job opportunity) would see?

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 4, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

IN CASE YOU HADN'T HEARD!

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3229495

The Cowboys are interviewing Gregg Williams.

Posted by: filmchis | February 4, 2008 12:00 PM | Report abuse

I think the Gint's need to thank the ol' Skins coaching blunders in the third game at the goalline. Remember going into that game they had been BLOWN OUT and were 0-2. If we hadn't HANDED them the game (remember we were up by like 2 TD's at half), they might have actually collapsed, fired Coughlin (which they were talking about -- remember everybody was actually listening to Tikki back then).

So good job, Skins!

Posted by: carocanesfan | February 4, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

I think we should all be able to tell just by looking at the guy that he's the man.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/04/AR2008020400183.html

Posted by: skinfanman | February 4, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Cincinnati signed a two-year contract Wednesday with quarterback Jordan Palmer, the younger brother of starter Carson Palmer.

I know everyone here was not impressed but still thought this was interesting...

Posted by: trailblazer658 | February 4, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

IF YOU DON'T HAVE NEW NEWS, DON'T POST...

Posted by: greg_hughes90 | February 4, 2008 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: psps23 | February 4, 2008 11:57 AM

Sadly, our so called GM or whatever the hell his title is does not believe in drafting DL as a priority. He was quoted as such last year when many of us were begging them to draft there. They did make a solid pick with Landy so can't knock them for that but last night is just another prime example that games are won in the trenches. That front 4 last night made the lives of Kevin Dockery and Sam Madison much easier.

Posted by: cdubb | February 4, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Skinz, pretty decent evaluation. However, i think Carter is much better than a 3rd down pass rusher. he makes some pretty good plays and is very athletic. If they had a threat or two more he would run wild.

Monty has the ability to be above avg but golston does not.

Posted by: sams3 | February 4, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Let's not go ga-ga over Spags just yet. Don't forget, it's easy to look like a genius when you can rush only 4-5 guys and get an a$$ load of pressure. That allows you to play 6-7 back in coverage.

No doubt he is a fine coach, however, he is afforded many more options when you can rush Strahan, Uminyoura, Tuck, and Robbins.

Here he isn't afforded that luxury....nobody is confusing Montgomery, Carter, Daniels, Colston, etc for the Jints D-Line

Posted by: cej75024 | February 4, 2008 11:07 AM

This poitn is really important. I don't want to denigrate Spags at all, but it was like saying Norv was a genius because an offense with Aikman, Smith and Irvin was good.

He did not scheme that pressure - but on the other hand it did not happen the same way last year or the year before, without him. He should get props, but GG showed far more value as a guy that schemes.

Spags may be great, but VinnyDan should not hire him because that DLine was able to get to the Golden Boy.

Posted by: RedBee | February 4, 2008 12:10 PM | Report abuse

First off, I would like to say that I don't want Fassel! I think people are jumping on the Spags bandwagon a little quick. We don't have the front four the Giants do, and that is a huge part of the guys scheme. I think naming him head coach would be a huge mistake for this franchise. The only valuable thing he brings is info from the eagles, and giants but thats it. At this piont, I don't know who should be the coach. I'm worried!!!!

Posted by: redryan400 | February 4, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

here is another question to ponder....

Why are we now foaming-at-the-mouth in love with ol' Spaggs??

Other than last night, who knew ANYTHING about him....other than he has a maniac look on the sidelines. Now because he held the Evil Empire to 14 pts, he's the second coming.

And if this fizzles out and we go 6-10 and 5-11 people will say....."see this guy had no experience ...blah blah blah and our crazy owner hired him anyway"

Posted by: cej75024 | February 4, 2008 12:14 PM | Report abuse

Hey, did you guys see that game last night? Wow!


Anyway, time to go back to the coaching search, and I have an idea for a new candidate, one so great that I can't believe no one has priorly thunk it:

Sgt. Slaughter


Big-time professional wrestler. Member of the GI Joe team. I'm mean, come on, is there anything he can't do? He's one guy who won't lose the locker room.

Sgt. Slaughter. Book it.

Posted by: freakzilla | February 4, 2008 12:14 PM | Report abuse

As far as I can tell, there's only one HC position available this year. (I suppose Al Davis could change that, but since he's looking at high school coaches I'll discount that.)
Who's on that "last chance" bubble for next year, for a job that Spagnuolo would definitely wait for?

Raiders (changing coaches the way some people change underwear)
Detroit? (the world's "most futile" coaching job)
Chiefs? (he'd have a blank slate on defense... and offense too)
Rams? (I can see how they'd like to get him)
Jets? (Is Mangini on the hot seat?)
Eagles?? (Well, now, that would be an interesting possibility, now wouldn't it)

Posted by: daggar | February 4, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Spags should stay in New York and replace Coughlin when he retires. No one but a mercenary or a prostitute would coach for Snyder after what he did with Gregg Williams. Gregg Williams should sit out this year and collect his well earned money from Snyder. He would be so underemployed as a linebackers coach. How many times would Coughlin have been fired by Snyder if he coached here? Continuity is very important, instead of blowing up the team every couple of years.

Posted by: jimwell | February 4, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Say what you will about the Skins being the Cards of the East, but it looks like Jerrah Jones is trying to turn the Cowboys into the Skins of the South (or, more accurately b/c Texas isn't in the "south" and instead considers itself to be a separate country, the Skins of Texas):

"Should Capers and Williams become assistants, the Cowboys would have added four coaches with at least defensive coordinator experience (Capers, Williams, Campo and Grantham) and three former head coaches (Capers, Williams and Campo)."

Posted by: dcsween | February 4, 2008 12:17 PM | Report abuse

He did not scheme that pressure - but on the other hand it did not happen the same way last year or the year before, without him. He should get props, but GG showed far more value as a guy that schemes.

Spags may be great, but VinnyDan should not hire him because that DLine was able to get to the Golden Boy.

Posted by: Levinems | February 4, 2008 12:10 PM

yes, that d-line definitely made spags' job easier. but don't confuse that with "he did not scheme that pressure." spags sent pressure from all over the place. safeties, corners, LB's all were blizted. some from the outside, some up the middle. there were straight blitzes and there were zone-blitzes. he had all types of disguised coverages (one play in particular that comes to mind was when welker was running a crossing route over the middle and madison came clear across his face from the opposite direction...brady never saw him and madison almost came away with the pick). the end result was that brady never knew where and when the pressure was coming. yes, he was definitely helped out by the d-line being able to get pressure with only 4, but spags didn't simply rely on only the front 4. spagnuolo schemed that game to perfection.

Posted by: psps23 | February 4, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Eagles?? (Well, now, that would be an interesting possibility, now wouldn't it)

Posted by: daggar

Ahh don't forget the Redskins on that list for next year.

Posted by: mul | February 4, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse

I have never been more pessimistic about the Redskins. Now that Cerrato has complete power, with Danny, they will destroy us. We will be in Cap hell like no one has ever seen before. As a fan, I feel like our fanbase has been completely demoralized by Snyder!

Posted by: jimwell | February 4, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse

greg_hughes90- Remember, this is actually now known as Barno Insider. He's the one with all the sources, predictions, pontificatingnesseses, self prop giving, maps like such as.

Nobody out self-props the barno.

Posted by: 4-12 | February 4, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Spags was quoted as saying that he only blitzed roughly 30-35 percent of the time. Just shows you how amazing their pass rush is.

Further proof why trading picks is bad. Justin Tuck, 3rd round pick. The Redskins need to DOMINATE this next draft. Our first 3 picks need to stick, and make an immediate impact.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 4, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Question: Was it the scheme if Spags or the players he has that won the game? I think a combination of both with more being on the talent side of the D line. But does that also mean he would make a good HC? This is one year. Does one year make a great DC or even a great HC? I think pass on Spags.

Posted by: CTCapsFan | February 4, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Sgt. Slaughter?

Freak, I have abided with your nonsense for quite some time now, but seriously, Sgt. Slaughter?

You are way off base on this one!

Million Dollar Man.

Gibbs would like his squeaky clean repentance, Snyder would like his "big name" status, Vinny would like him because Snyder likes him. He would have great locker room influence because anyone who opposed him would get the Million Dollar Dream.

Posted by: Dorf | February 4, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Because I have hope once again I will second a post on the draft.

We need O-line and D-line 4 out of the first 5 rounds. We need one LB Free agent, a big WR. We need a very good DT more than a DE in my opinion.

Lets hope CR and Rock get better soon.

I do think Vinny can draft OK, but nothing else that I have observed.

Spag if he can make the right deal can help us and give Dan a way out of this mess.

Posted by: mul | February 4, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Hey Brownwood

If you are going to list meddlesome owners and you do not list Al Davis then your list is a joke. Also player acquisition under Gibbs was not that good do not forget that Gibbs 1 he did not pick players. Lets start at the begining first he traded a 3 round pick for Mark Brunell who was going to be released and had no other options. Arch and Lloyd need I say more. He traded a pro bowl corner and a 2 round pick for an OK running back that did not fit our scheme. He let Ryan clark leave who starts for Pittsburgh. I almost forgot the best of all traded a 3rd pick for Duckett who got like 2 carries for us. I am sure I am missing some hey Sams help me out with more of the great personeel moves by Gibbs.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 4, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

He did not scheme that pressure - but on the other hand it did not happen the same way last year or the year before, without him. He should get props, but GG showed far more value as a guy that schemes.

Spags may be great, but VinnyDan should not hire him because that DLine was able to get to the Golden Boy.

Posted by: Levinems | February 4, 2008 12:10 PM

yes, that d-line definitely made spags' job easier. but don't confuse that with "he did not scheme that pressure." spags sent pressure from all over the place. safeties, corners, LB's all were blizted. some from the outside, some up the middle. there were straight blitzes and there were zone-blitzes. he had all types of disguised coverages (one play in particular that comes to mind was when welker was running a crossing route over the middle and madison came clear across his face from the opposite direction...brady never saw him and madison almost came away with the pick). the end result was that brady never knew where and when the pressure was coming. yes, he was definitely helped out by the d-line being able to get pressure with only 4, but spags didn't simply rely on only the front 4. spagnuolo schemed that game to perfection.

Posted by: psps23 | February 4, 2008 12:19 PM

PSP23 - yup, he did scheme the defense, but how much easier is it to blitz when you know you could just leave your front four alone and get real pressure.

I don't want to lessen him by saying he had nothing to do with it, but having that DLine makes any DC's job MUCH easier.

Posted by: RedBee | February 4, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

daggar, I anticipate that a few teams will be looking for head coaches due to retirement. Holmgren and Dungy are deferring the inevitable. Also, if that NE videotape guy from seasons past actually HAS a copy of the Rams warmups for that Super Bowl, Bellichek might be in bigger trouble (more from profootballtalk that).

Posted by: dcsween | February 4, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Question who wanted Spags 8 weeks ago?

I did not look at the Giants and say we need there DC.

Posted by: mul | February 4, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

""Really wishy washy" sounds like he has the chops to fit in perfectly with the Skins FO.""

LOL, very true. :)

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | February 4, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

sween--

Seattle and Indy have already locked up replacements. Those jobs will not be hired on the open market.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 4, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

"The reason you don't see any other teams hiring their coordinators before their? It's a bad idea..."

Actually, Jerry Jones did it last year when he hired Garret before he hired Phillips. Not that I would ever want to follow in Jerry Jones' footsteps.

Posted by: skinsfan_81 | February 4, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

PSP23 - yup, he did scheme the defense, but how much easier is it to blitz when you know you could just leave your front four alone and get real pressure.

I don't want to lessen him by saying he had nothing to do with it, but having that DLine makes any DC's job MUCH easier.

Posted by: Levinems | February 4, 2008 12:34 PM

Agreed. But I personally think that Spags showed that he is a true gamer last night while McDaniels showed that he might be more of a consequence of talent. Other teams have had the personnel to do what Spags did, but couldn't finish it out in the end (the Colts come to mind with Freeney and Mathis). The difference was that Spags didn't purely rely on his talent, he actually planned his pressure out and how he was going to attack Brady.

One thing this team has done is de-emphasize the defensive line over the years. I think that if they bring Spagnuolo in, they'll be almost forced to give him the weapons he needs to be successful. And that will start with the draft this year. I am now in full-force support of Spags, as long as he's not an idiot in terms of interviewing.

Posted by: psps23 | February 4, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

sween--

Seattle and Indy have already locked up replacements. Those jobs will not be hired on the open market.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 4, 2008 12:44 PM

kinda like the skins locked up their replacement 2 years ago. that worked out.

Posted by: psps23 | February 4, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

"Seattle and Indy have already locked up replacements. Those jobs will not be hired on the open market."

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 4, 2008 12:44 PM

If you're thinking Mora, Jim L. is a lock, I don't think so. Seattle would at least need to interview or -- as a certain deadbeat reporter of the beat reporter would report -- demean another guy.

Posted by: dcsween | February 4, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Hey JLC

You do not post for 2 days and this is the best you can come up with did you read ESPN like I did yesterday to get this information. Were is the Mooch post I read in a couple of other places that they talked to him earlier in the week this is supposed to be Redskins Insider give us some stuff that is not already reported on other networks.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 4, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

sween--Rooney Rule doesn't apply if you promote someone who's already on your staff.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 4, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Super Bowl XLII Snap Judgments
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/don_banks/02/03/superbowl.snaps/index.html?eref=T1

GLENDALE, Ariz. -- Musings, observations and the occasional insight from Super Bowl XLII, a game so ugly it was absolutely beautiful. And historic. And dramatic. And everything a New York fan could have dreamed of ...

• Unless he's a complete stiff in the interview process -- and I don't think he will be -- we might want to go ahead and give Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo the Redskins' head-coaching job. That's how hot Spagnuolo will be, now that his Giants defenders shut down the most prolific offense in NFL history.

Oh, the delicious irony! Jim Fassel, the former Giants head coach had to be sick watching this game. I believe he was the leader in the clubhouse for the Redskins job, unless Spagnuolo made up some ground with a stellar outing by his unit in the Super Bowl.

Spagnuolo's unit got after Tom Brady all night long and played with a passion and intensity that will speak volumes on behalf of his candidacy in Washington. It's hard to imagine a scenario where you could be deemed a hotter assistant, or a more sought-after head-coaching candidate than Spagnuolo is, thanks to tonight's prime-time audition.

Posted by: JustMe | February 4, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

What no one has imagined or gamed out yet is what Snyder is asking from his new coach candidate? Here are some scenarios:

1. Snyder is willing to be patient. Stay with a draft choice build-up stategy. Build depth in both lines. Keep grooming Campbell but do not over expose him with more of an offensive load than he can grasp. Guide posts will be 8-8 for season #1, 9-7 for #2, 10-6 and division for #3 and beyond. This assumes not going crazy in the free agent market and bringing salary caps into a form that can mesh with a run in 3 years. Coach's contract is laden with incentives for deep playoff victories in 3 years. The coach and staff will have 2 years to get used to each other. Coach can be offensive or defensive oriented. Strong coach not as necessary as a one who is a builder and visionary.

Scenario #2 Use this team as a launching pad. Hope that coaching changes alone and 3 draft picks will close the gap with the rest of the NFC East. Allow that the offensive line is vulnerable but hope that they can be held intact for the next two years without turnover of personell. Trade for West Coast offense veteran qb. Trade for D linemen. Forego draft picks in 09 and 10. Sign Chad or use top pick on wide receiver. The coach will be given a mandate to have a 10-6 record in '08. (Kind of a redux of the George Allen "The Future is Now" plan.) Coach to be offensive oriented. Coach needs a lot of control to bring this to fruition.

Scenario #3 "The old system has worked for Vinny and Me so far concept."
Spend very heavily. Try to be competitive in all games. Long term plan consists of building through #1 draft choices only. Other draft picks will be treated as assets if trade value can be found. Sign older free agents with "name" recognition. Campbell will be expected to perform at a high level this year even with a new offense. The coach is expected to bring the team consistently to the playoffs. Coach to be offensive oriented.
Coach needs to manage coordinators well and to be a motivator but not necessarily a control type person.

Posted by: driley | February 4, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Admittedly, I don't remember the names Adam Koets or Michael Johnson from last night, but I do recall at least one big play by each of the following: Aaron Ross, Steve Smith, Jay Alford, Zak DeOssie, Kevin Boss, Adam Koets, Michael Johnson, and Ahmad Bradshaw. These were the guys picked by the Giants in the last draft (April 2007).

On the Skins personnel front, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" ... and promote Vinny Cerrato. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure it was plenty easy to pick wrong at #6 in the first round, so props on LaRon ... and, in the words of PeKing, Blades was an "absolute steal," but the other three guys, Sartz, Jordan Palmer, Tyler Ecker?


Posted by: dcsween | February 4, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

"Rooney Rule doesn't apply if you promote someone who's already on your staff."

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 4, 2008 01:01 PM

I'm pretty sure this is an incorrect statement.

Posted by: dcsween | February 4, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

IF YOU DON'T HAVE NEW NEWS, DON'T POST...

Posted by: greg_hughes90 | February 4, 2008 12:06 PM

Joe Gibbs retired and they opted not to hire GG...

Posted by: deadskin | February 4, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

IF YOU DON'T HAVE NEW NEWS, DON'T POST...

Posted by: greg_hughes90 | February 4, 2008 12:06 PM

Roy Williams will be replacing Sean Taylor in the Pro Bowl.

Posted by: dcsween | February 4, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

ETHAN ALBRIGHT MADE THE PRO BOWL!

Posted by: Dorf | February 4, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

The new HC should be Meeks. The 'Skins do better with a one syllable coach...and shortened names don't count (ala Spaggs).

I wish they'd just make a decision and be done with it. That way if it's Fossil, I can start the mourning period now and be ready for pre-season.

Posted by: kickinblonde | February 4, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

kmdp4,

Yes, I did omit Al Davis. But there's a fine line between meddlesome and self-destructive...

As for the moves you listed, those are eggregious errors. But that only proves the point that the moves under Gibbs were far less disasterous (sans 2006, of course) in contrast with what happened under Spurrier and the first full year of the Danny in 2000. While I disagree with what they gave up to get them, Brunell was good for at least one year, Portis has been productive for the most part, and the defense is anchored by Washington, Springs, and Griffin. Better than Wuerffel, Canidate, Armstead, and Deion, no?

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 4, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 4, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

IF YOU DON'T HAVE NEW NEWS, DON'T POST...

Posted by: greg_hughes90 | February 4, 2008 12:06 PM

We still don't have a head coach

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 4, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

"Rooney Rule doesn't apply if you promote someone who's already on your staff."

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 4, 2008 01:01 PM

I'm pretty sure this is an incorrect statement.

Posted by: dcsween | February 4, 2008 01:08 PM

if he's contractually signed to be specifically named as the next head coach prior to the current head coaches banishment, then yes, it can happen. mike martz did it with the rams after vermeil left. however, we all thought GW had the same clause in his contract, but look how that worked out. who knows what's in mora's contract.

Posted by: psps23 | February 4, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

IF YOU DON'T HAVE NEW NEWS, DON'T POST...

Posted by: greg_hughes90 | February 4, 2008 12:06 PM

Joe Gibbs retired and they opted not to hire GG...

Posted by: deadskin | February 4, 2008 01:09 PM

IF YOU DON'T HAVE NEW NEWS, DON'T POST...

Posted by: greg_hughes90 | February 4, 2008 12:06 PM

Roy Williams will be replacing Sean Taylor in the Pro Bowl.

Posted by: dcsween | February 4, 2008 01:13 PM


2 homo's

Posted by: greg_hughes90 | February 4, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Sween,

It is wrong. Here's what the Beat Reporter wrote:

I contacted the league for the official statement, as there was some confusion if you had interview a minority candidate it a team was going to hire from within. And, yes they do; there is one exception to the rule that does not apply in this case.

Here's the NFL briefing on the rule from 12/20/02:

"On the December 19-20 conference calls, the owners strongly agreed on the principle that any club seeking to hire a head coach will interview one or more minority applicants for the position. The one exception occurs when a club has made a prior contractual commitment to promote a member of its own staff and no additional interviewing takes place (e.g. Mike Martz and the St. Louis Rams in 2000)."

By Jason La Canfora | January 8, 2008; 2:44 PM ET

Of course, why would you trust the Beat Reporter?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 4, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone heard how the Mooch interview went?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 4, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

2 homo's

Posted by: greg_hughes90 | February 4, 2008 01:16 PM

i believe homo's refers to either "homo is" or homo as being possessive.

i think what you were trying to say is "2 homos"

Posted by: psps23 | February 4, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Way to resort to bigoted lash outs greg-hughes. Chill out.

Fire alarm... gotta go!

Posted by: Dorf | February 4, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Prior to his stint at Maine, Spagnuolo spent four months as a scout for the San Diego Chargers under then-general manager Bobby Beathard. His first NFL experience came in 1983 as an intern with the Washington Redskins under then-assistant general manager Charlie Casserly.

http://www.giants.com/team/coach.asp?coach_id=10

Posted by: CMoney1 | February 4, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Redskins Fact:

Tackle Todd Wade's father, Luther, was a fullback in college in the same Mississippi backfield that included quarterback Archie Manning (Peyton and Eli's dad).

Posted by: Forrest | February 4, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Spagnuolo did an impressive turnaround with that defense this year and schemed the SB beautifully. He was able to beat the Patriots with a very unimpressive secondary. The other thing about him is that he seems to have a lot of passion for the game. That is one of the things that would concern me about hiring either Mariucci or Fassel. Are they really going to be able to act as motivators?

All that said, I read somewhere yesterday that Spags apparently is not dead-set on becoming a HC right now. I suppose a big ol' pile of money on the table could change his mind. And he has to be mindful of the "Grimm/Rivera Factor." If the Giants take a dive next year (certainly possible), then it could be awhile before he gets another sniff at a HC position.

Posted by: acoberst | February 4, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

beat you to it forrest...

last thread.

Posted by: Dorf | February 4, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Redskins Fact:

Tackle Todd Wade's father, Luther, was a fullback in college in the same Mississippi backfield that included quarterback Archie Manning (Peyton and Eli's dad).


Posted by: Forrest | February 4, 2008 01:26 PM

At least the calendar is starting to talk about current players on the roster. I was getting tired of reading about old players who hardly played for the skins.

Posted by: ceevans | February 4, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Redskins Fact:

While with the Dolphins in 2002, tackle Todd Wade blocked for Ricky Williams, who was the NFL's leading rusher that year.


How bout this one Dorf?

Posted by: Forrest | February 4, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Forrest,

Quick, you and me... staring contest.


You win. You always do.

Posted by: Dorf | February 4, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

IF Napolean does hire Spag's, That means that our offense will be run by a QB coach... I thought that we needed to improve our offense? Our D is and will be solid..

This is why I am confused by the search. We need and O minded coach at the least..

Posted by: greg_hughes90 | February 4, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

IF YOU DON'T HAVE NEW NEWS, DON'T POST...

Posted by: greg_hughes90 | February 4, 2008 12:06 PM

This just in....

Vince Lombardi is still dead.
Gut Lombardo is still dead also.
In another news Carole Lombard was today announced to be 'still dead'.

In other news, the Redskins' search for a Head Coach continues.

Unattributable sources* have informed me that CEO/President and "Bona-Fide Big Kahuna" of the Washington Redskins, Daniel M. Snyder has now placed a $2M contract with Muppet Labs, Co. to manufacture a new Redskins coach from DNA samples 'recovered'** from all leading NFL coaches over the last 40 years.

Dr Bunsen Honeydew of Muppet Labs stated today "we are very excited to be given this opportunity to work with Mr Snyder, as people do not usually place contracts with fictional entities. We have already begun work on a chimera of my assistant Beaker, whose DNA has been successfully merged with samples from Bill Walsh, Joe Gibbs, John Madden and Daniel M. Snyder***."

I guess that makes 3 of us greghughes....

* Because they don't exist...
** I'll leave it to you to decide how they get it....
*** This was a condition of the contract being placed

Posted by: Redcoat | February 4, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Blast! Should have been Guy not 'Gut' Lombardo.

Now it's all ruined. Not that you guys care.

* walks off muttering under his breath *

Posted by: Redcoat | February 4, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

I think we should get Steve. He held the Patriots to 14 points. Yeah the Giants have a great D-Line, but other than the D-Line and Antonio Peirce, the Giants defense is not that talented.

Posted by: F0X | February 4, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Fridays in Hell

One day a guy dies and finds himself in hell. As he is wallowing in despair, he has his first meeting with the devil...
Satan: "Why so glum?"
Guy: "What do you think? I'm in hell!"
Satan: "Hell's not so bad. We actually have a lot of fun down here.
You a drinking man?"
Guy: "Sure, I love to drink."
Satan: "Well, you're gonna love Mondays then. On Mondays, that's all we do is drink. Whiskey, tequila, Guinness, wine coolers, Tab, and Fresca.
We drink 'til we throw up, and then we drink some more! And you don't have to worry about getting a hangover, because you're dead anyway."
Guy: "Gee that sounds great!"
Satan: "You a smoker?"
Guy: "You better believe it"
Satan: "All right! You're gonna love Tuesdays We get the finest cigars from all over the world, and smoke our lungs out. If you get cancer - no biggie, you're already dead, remember?"
Guy: "Wow...that's awesome!"
Satan: "I bet you like to gamble."
Guy: "Why, yes, as a matter of fact I do."
Satan: "Good, 'cause Wednesdays you can gamble all you want. Craps, blackjack, roulette, poker, slots, whatever. If you go bankrupt, it doesn't matter, you're dead anyhow."
Guy: "Cool!"
Satan: "What about Drugs?"
Guy: "Are you kidding? Love drugs! You don't mean...?"
Satan: "That's right! Thursday is drug day. Help yourself to a great big bowl of crack or smack. Smoke a doobie the size of a submarine. You can do all the drugs you want. You're dead so who cares."
Guy: "Wow! I never realized Hell was such a cool place!"
Satan: "You gay?"
Guy: "No..."
Satan: "Ooooh, Fridays are gonna be tough..."

Posted by: Forrest | February 4, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

2 homo's

Posted by: greg_hughes90 | February 4, 2008 01:16 PM

actually, I'm an Australopithecus, but its a common mistake.

On that Rooney rule bit about the Martz "in the contract" exception, I thought that was meant to be retroactive. The Rooney rule didn't come about till 2002 (or thereabouts ... in response to a threat of litigation) and Martz' 2000 contract pre-dated it. Even if a coordinator could get a clause, I assume it would have to have been in a contract written around the same time that the team is also hiring the head coach (i.e., a process that included an interview with a minority coach) so that the coordinator's contract clause comes either when the coordinator gets hired at the same time as the HC (but doesn't win that job for the time being) or that the contract gets re-negotiated at that time.

Posted by: dcsween | February 4, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Let the process continue!

As long as we have Todd leading us I fear nothing.

Posted by: mul | February 4, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 4, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

this may be new news:

All fluorescent lamps contain mercury.

Please dispose of then properly.

Also, my ST probowl jersey didn't arrive yet. I was hoping to wear it yesterday during the game, but alas, I wore my cooley jersey.

Question: what do you with old jersies that you don't feel good about wearing anymore? Is there some jersey recycling program?

Posted by: Dorf | February 4, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Todd is not going to leave us is he?

Posted by: mul | February 4, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Tooooooooooooooooooodd!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: mul | February 4, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

All fluorescent lamps contain mercury.

Posted by: Dorf | February 4, 2008 01:47 PM

I always wondered what they did with Freddie's remains.

Posted by: Redcoat | February 4, 2008 1:49 PM | Report abuse

On a non-football note, my fav commercial from yesterday was the Bud-Lite one, starring Wil Ferrel:

"Bud Light.....suck one"

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 4, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Will Ferrell. Explain please?

Posted by: Redcoat | February 4, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Hire Spagnuolo, he held the Best Offense in history to 14 points. Other than there D-Line and Peirce the Giants defense is not that good. This was his first year as a defense of coordinator. Maybe Synder asked him about the assistant coach's before he hired them.

From the Giants website:

Steve Spagnuolo was hired as the Giants' new defensive coordinator on Jan. 22, 2007. He replaced Tim Lewis, who held the position the previous three seasons.

Spagnuolo comes to the Giants after eight seasons with the Philadelphia Eagles, the last three as the club's linebackers coach. While he was in that role, middle linebacker Jeremiah Trotter was selected to two Pro Bowl berths. In 2005, Trotter was voted to the game after leading the Eagles with 169 tackles, including 13 for a loss. That season, Philadelphia led the NFL with 60 tackles for a loss, including 25 by the linebackers.

Spagnuolo was the only coach to work under highly-respected defensive coordinator Jim Johnson during his entire tenure in Philadelphia. During six of his eight seasons with the Eagles, Spagnuolo coached a player who earned Pro Bowl honors.

In his eight-year tenure in Philadelphia, Spagnuolo helped coach an Eagles defense that is traditionally one of the NFL's best. In a six-year period from 1999-2005, Philadelphia's defense ranked first in the NFL in opposing third down percentage (33 percent), second in points allowed (17.0 per game), second in sacks (265) and third in red zone defense (43.3 percent). During this period, the Eagles played in four consecutive NFC Championship Games and one Super Bowl.

Spagnuolo originally joined the Eagles coaching staff in 1999 as a defensive assistant/quality control coach working specifically with the team's safeties. Two years later, he was promoted to defensive backs coach, where he spent three seasons tutoring Pro Bowlers Brian Dawkins, Bobby Taylor, Troy Vincent, Lito Sheppard and Michael Lewis. In those three seasons, the Eagles pass defense ranked in the NFL's top 10 in three key statistical categories: third-down defense, touchdown passes allowed and net yards per pass attempt.

Prior to joining the Eagles, Spagnuolo coached 15 seasons in college football and two years in NFL Europe.

He spent the 1998 season as the defensive coordinator of NFL Europe's Frankfurt Galaxy, who finished second in the league in total defense en route to a World Bowl appearance. Four of the six linebackers and nine of the 11 defensive starters he tutored went on to play in the NFL. Spagnuolo also served as the defensive line and special teams coach of the Barcelona Dragons in 1992.

Prior to his stint at Maine, Spagnuolo spent four months as a scout for the San Diego Chargers under then-general manager Bobby Beathard. His first NFL experience came in 1983 as an intern with the Washington Redskins under then-assistant general manager Charlie Casserly.

Posted by: F0X | February 4, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

IF YOU DON'T HAVE NEW NEWS, DON'T POST...

Posted by: greg_hughes90 | February 4, 2008 12:06 PM


Jesus is still the Lord and Savior to people under the Christian faith.

Joe Gibbs retired

Michael Irvin was caught smoking crack at the Hall of Fame press conference

Dan Snyder was caught smoking crack outside the Hall of Fame press conference, and subsequently almost offered Fassel the HC job

The Giants beat the Patriots to win the Super Bowl

Posted by: jmc2007 | February 4, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

RC, it was a combination of an ad for Bud-lite, as well as a teaser for an upcoming movie that Ferrel is in. Ferrell is dressed up in a 1970/1980's style basketball uniform, un-comfortably snug shorts, afro, head band, pitching Bud-lite.
The commercial consists of Ferrel ad-libbing the lines of the commercial:

"Bud Lite......suck one"...then

"cut....please just stick to the script"

He had a couple other funny lines in there as well. Hope that helps.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 4, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

PRUNE CANDY!

Posted by: Dorf | February 4, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Greg, I think I saw it but skipped past on the DVR. I just find myself bemused by all the love for Will Ferrell. He seems to try really hard but I just don't find him very funny.

Hollywood just seems to have dropped in the whole formulaic "if it's a comedy it must have Will Ferrell in it" rut at the moment.

Before him it was Ben Stiller, before him Adam Sandler, before him Robin Williams and so on back into time immemorial...

I'm know that I'm merely a curmudgeonly* Brit but I just don't get it with Will Ferrell.

* who also has manliness issues because I don't like Will Ferrell.

Posted by: Redcoat | February 4, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

what was with the racially insensitive/overtly stereotypical dot com commercials? As a 20-something, middle class, white male I felt uncomfortable.

Posted by: Dorf | February 4, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

the problem with Will Ferrell is . . . .

he's just no Benny Hill huh Redcoat?

Posted by: jclansburgh | February 4, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

IF YOU DON'T HAVE NEW NEWS, DON'T POST...

Posted by: greg_hughes90 | February 4, 2008 12:06 PM

President Bush sent the nation's first-ever $3 trillion budget proposal to Congress on Monday

Aruban Prosecutor Considers Hidden Camera Footage of Holloway Suspect Admissible in Court

3 Men Shot Dead at During Super Bowl Telecast at Maryland Pizzeria

Posted by: Forrest | February 4, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

I take no responsibility for Benny Hill either jclansburgh, he was booted off UK TV years before he died because everyone was sicked and tired of his schtick yet he's still on TV here 20 years later!!

And don't get me started on "Are You Being Served?"...

Posted by: Redcoat | February 4, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

FOX, all that stuff about Spagnuolo is good to know, but I'm not sure how relevant it is to becoming the HC of the Redskins. Reading Ross Tucker's excellent Q&A that just finished on this web site, the HC nowadays is really more of a CEO than a traditional coach and is primarily responsible for overall administration and direction, with the only real 'coaching' coming on gameday itself.

I'm not saying that Spags can't do this stuff, just that there isn't anything in his resume that screams out "top-notch administrator." It's something that Snyder will have to get a feel for during the interview. And yes, I just shuddered when I wrote that...

Posted by: acoberst | February 4, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

I bet you're a real Mr. Bean fan then . . .

Posted by: jclansburgh | February 4, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Don't remember where I saw it(espn) but when Gibbs retired it was brought up that Williams was supposed to be head coach so there would be no search. They were then corrected that it could not be written into
any contract due to the Rooney Rule and other league bylaws.

Posted by: BILL | February 4, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

rc - had to google being served - hat's off - pretty funny

Posted by: jclansburgh | February 4, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

I bet you're a real Mr. Bean fan then . . .

Posted by: jclansburgh | February 4, 2008 02:23 PM

Sorry, no. Although apparently they love him in Italy, Germany and France.

Posted by: Redcoat | February 4, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Sorry to say...if you don't like Will Ferrell in OLD SCHOOL & ANCHORMAN.....

You are dead inside.

As for the SKINS.....the wait is almost over.....

we've got quality personnel in place....let the YOUTH MOVEMENT begin!!!

God I wish Rogers and McIntosh's rehabs could go faster.....but on the upside...when they get back....we will be DEEP at their positions.

Posted by: goosedude | February 4, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Old School has some funny lines. I tried to watch "Talladega Nights" last night after the super bowl; I got halfway through and haven't laughed once.
But I did like the commercial...
"A lot of sweat went into this bottle. Not really, 'cause that'd be gross"

Posted by: daggar | February 4, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Let the youth movement begin? I recall the Redskins getting really old and really close to the cap room as soon as Danny and Friends took the helm of the franchise.

Posted by: Dorf | February 4, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

IF YOU DON'T HAVE NEW NEWS, DON'T POST...

Posted by: greg_hughes90 | February 4, 2008 12:06 PM

i haven't gotten my DVD yet from Jasno...

Posted by: barno | February 4, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Bravo barno, bravo!!

Posted by: Redcoat | February 4, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Don't remember where I saw it(espn) but when Gibbs retired it was brought up that Williams was supposed to be head coach so there would be no search. They were then corrected that it could not be written into
any contract due to the Rooney Rule and other league bylaws.

Posted by: BILL | February 4, 2008 02:25 PM

Reason number 741,924,289 not to believe everything you read on a blog. The above comment from Bill is INCORRECT.

Posted by: barno | February 4, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

good one barno

Posted by: Dorf | February 4, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

i haven't gotten my DVD yet from Jasno...

Posted by: barno | February 4, 2008 02:34 PM

Can someone please remind me what this dvd shabingus is about? Is Jasno giving out dvd's? If so, how do I get one?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 4, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Brownwood26:

Before you mock someone, you should do your homework. NFL experts routinely say the Redskins are a talented team. What made the job Gibbs did great, was how he pulled together the team in the face of tragedy and also how he held the team together despite a mountain of injuries this season. I have never heard one NFL scout say this team has a talent issue and I have heard quite a few talk about their talent level.

Posted by: croftonpost | February 4, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Monty has the ability to be above avg but golston does not.

Posted by: sams3 | February 4, 2008 12:09 PM

Reason number 741,924,290 not to believe everything you read on a blog. The above comment from sams3 is INCORRECT.

Posted by: tafka | February 4, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

RC, I'm a fan of Ferrell because of his low-brow type of humor. Old School is just classic, thats a tough one not to laugh at, same with Anchorman, which has some GREAT lines in it. Talladega Nights, has some funny parts in it, but also has long stretch's of nothing....

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 4, 2008 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat,

Will Ferrell is funny the way a squeaky shoe in a quiet office is funny.

Posted by: tafka | February 4, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

I'm completely onboard with low-brow humo(u)r Greg; I laughed my a$$ off at Caddyshack/Police Squad/Naked Gun/Airplane movies, etc. I just never warmed to Will Ferrell is all. Maybe it's just cultural.

I will try Old School and Anchorman. I watched Talladega Nights and gave up after about 45 minutes because I was falling asleep, but then I think Nascar is a crashing bore too.

Sorry all, I'll hand my 'man-ness' permit back as I leave....

Posted by: Redcoat | February 4, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

***TREEHOUSE POST***

dcsween,

A belated "Congratulations!" on winning our mighty epic last poster death match. Finally. I went and read the entire thread the other night and was loving it. Unbelievable work we did (some of it unbelievably bad, but still).

After you and me and cloadie, I think we need to give a shout out to Nate Dogg and Redcoat also for their small haiku contributions along the way. And I highly recommend to all you coked-up hamsters out there that don't know what we're talking about, check it out:

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2007/08/jc_says_he_will_play.html#comments

It's good stuff.

MV Dame

Posted by: mvdame | February 4, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

The Cowboys' attempt to build an all-star defensive staff has turned to former Redskins defensive coordinator Gregg Williams. According to a source, the Cowboys have talked with Williams about joining Wade Phillips' staff. The team also continues to wait for Dom Capers to decide if he wants to join the Cowboys. -- Dallas Morning News

Wow, if they hired Williams that would be the ultimate indiginity to this whole fiascal. I wouldn't blame Williams for going to the Cowboys so he could really stick it to Snyder twice a year.

Posted by: ga8085 | February 4, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Chris,

Talladega Nights isn't what I'd call a good funny movie. It was ok, but nothing special. Old School and Anchorman are quality comedies however.

I don't know how to put this. ..I'm kind of a big deal around here.. People know me.

Posted by: barno | February 4, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

I don't know how to put this. ..I'm kind of a big deal around here.. People know me.

Posted by: barno | February 4, 2008 03:07 PM

You're being very cryptic lately Barno, what gives?

I have no issue with you using my given name, I posted it on the other thread because I wanted 4th to know that a real person cared about what had happened, to his family rather than just a nameless/faceless 'ID'.

Posted by: Redcoat | February 4, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

i like Taledega Nights myself better than Anchor Man.....but as a rule I love all that sht

Walk Hard ruled...

Old School and Wedding Crashes are topz in my book

"What did you do, any tricks...did you motor boat you did you did!!! you old sailor you!"

Posted by: clawrence | February 4, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

WOW!!! Thanks Barno, I don't know how we would survive without intelligent people like you around to straighten everything out for all us regular folk. But son, you are WRONG!!!

Posted by: BILL | February 4, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

TE, Jasno is NOT giving out CDs.

Barno is NOT forgetting that he's NOT gotten a CD.

Most of do NOT care--or, we care, but it's funny, NOT, as barno sees it, unfair.

Where's the not-guy when you need him?

P.S. It's so great the Giants won with Spags the man--now Danny's bizarre 'hire-the-assistants-first' plan seems out of touch with what his tremulous little gut is no doubt rumbling to do--hire the sudden genius. I am NOT sorry for little Danny.

Posted by: farstriker | February 4, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Nice work Barno.

Posted by: mack1 | February 4, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

RC, that "I'm kind of a big deal" line is from a WF movie. Of the pictures mentioned (Old School, Anchorman, Talladega Nights), I think his cameo in Zoolander or the whole movie of "Blades of Glory" are funnier, esp. Blades of Glory ... the multiple entendres, such as (not that there's anything wrong with that!).

Posted by: dcsween | February 4, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

sween, I don't know what you had to do to/for Cindy to get her to close the treehouse down; I tried to post for two days afterward and was convinced it was just temporary blog authorization issues (or "Nateification", as I refer to it).
Anyhoo, he who posts last wins... where is that garden gnome?

Posted by: daggar | February 4, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

farstriker, it was a DVD, not CD. [In the words of Jasno, "come correct!"]

Posted by: dcsween | February 4, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

MV Dame alive!
Eons and epochs go by
He lives on old thread.

Posted by: 4-12 | February 4, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

IF YOU DON'T HAVE NEW NEWS, DON'T POST...

Posted by: greg_hughes90 | February 4, 2008 12:06 PM

Patriots attempt to trade mark "19-0 The Perfect Season"

Posted by: skinsfan1234 | February 4, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Was Ferrell the maniacal villain in Zoolander? I thought that was a not bad movie, Mrs Redcoat HATED it.

Posted by: Redcoat | February 4, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

daggar, I'd been trying to add posts during the whole search, esp. on the Fassel Fasizzle Fiasco, but it kept resetting w/ nothing. I took it to Cindy, who took it to higher powers (editors I hadn't heard of), who took it to tech people, who took it to the limit ("one more time"), lots of emails, what have you, maps, such as. I don't think there is a prize, other than the joy in knowing we have provided a perpetual sublicenceable license to the WaPo on the content (or portions thereof) in any media known or yet to be developed. Good times.

Posted by: dcsween | February 4, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

For a second I thought I was being cryptic about the Ron Burgundy quote! Ah, the name thing...no real reason, just changing it up is all.

If you'd like, you can refer to me as the boring, aggressive, ridiculous, nerd, opposed to JLC.

aka B-A-R-N-0

Posted by: barno | February 4, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

cloadie, I think we should take sween out and buy all this drinks. Weak, watery ones to match his haiku.

4-12, I'm always around. (In Bill Parcell's voice:) "You should know that."

Posted by: mvdame | February 4, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

" ... Zoolander? I thought that was a not bad movie, Mrs Redcoat HATED it."

Posted by: Redcoat | February 4, 2008 03:18 PM

RC, there's your problem right there. Spousal co-viewing. That arrangement right there can RUIN the opportunity to enjoy perfectly excellent man-viewing. For example, the Simpsons. Never watch the Simpsons with (most) wives, esp. if they are kind or gentle people (and totally do not watch it if they lack meanness or other forms of guile).

Posted by: dcsween | February 4, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

I don't know how to put this. ..I'm kind of a big deal around here.. People know me.

Posted by: barno | February 4, 2008 03:07 PM

Sort of like herpes.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 4, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Don't hate the player, cload, hate the game.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 4, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

farstriker, good to see you up here.

You referenced "not guy," who has been not around lately, and also did not reveal who he or she was after whatever self-imposed conditions were met (Skins' getting into the playoffs?).

You too, MV Dame, long time no see.


Hail to the blog! and such as...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 4, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Spousal co-viewing is my preferred approach: I can NEVER spend enough time with Mrs Redcoat.

She has a very similar sense of humo(u)r to mine too, which is one of the many things that attracted her to me in the first place (she does a GREAT Cartman impersonation).

We watched the Simpsons movie the other week as we both liked the show but never get a chance to watch any more. It was like all the pace and humo(u)r that is packed into a 22-minute show were suddenly strung out over about 90 minutes. Result: a few good jokes with nothing much between.

Posted by: Redcoat | February 4, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

cload, I also believe the WaPo has terminated its relationship with the garden gnome and has authorized him to interview with different newspapers. Something about fogging up the webcam, shoveling around the stick, or some such (as). Also, I will pick up the tab for mvdame's drinks ... half filled pints ... b/c the bartender quit before the glass filled up ... like dame on his haiku-ery.

Posted by: dcsween | February 4, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

I wouldn't blame Williams for going to the Cowboys so he could really stick it to Snyder twice a year.

Posted by: ga8085 | February 4, 2008 03:01 PM

What job are they discussing with him? Linebackers coach? How would he get on with Wade Phillips? And the D-Coorinator.

If he really wants to "stick it to Snyder twice a year" he needs to be head coach or Mrs. Snyder.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 4, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Sort of like herpes.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 4, 2008 03:23 PM

hispes, herpes, it's all the same to me. Why do we have to play the blame game here?

Posted by: Redcoat | February 4, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Nate, notguy made some appearances last week. Timing-wise, all signs point to Redcoat.

Posted by: dcsween | February 4, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

which one do you think is best at raquetball?

Posted by: jklaw | February 4, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Why do we have to play the blame game here?

Posted by: Redcoat | February 4, 2008 03:31 PM

This is Washington, not St. Louis or Buffalo. What other game is there?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 4, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

I could go for an unsourced rumor about now. I'm even willing to accept fiction, but only if its plausible, and surrounds a person or organization that is big enough to be known, but not big enough to be important.

Posted by: dcsween | February 4, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Nate, notguy made some appearances last week. Timing-wise, all signs point to Redcoat.

Posted by: dcsween | February 4, 2008 03:31 PM

You keep bringing this one up. I confessed to my occasional Skippyness, but this accusation is one, up with which I shall not put.

To put it another way "me not he not".

Posted by: Redcoat | February 4, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Good grief, what if it's Fassel after all this?

That would suck.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 4, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

ahhh the offseason bloggers are in full form. Just one day after the NFL season is over, congenial and jocular fellows and fair maids descend on the blog like flies to roadkill.

This happens to also be Cindy's best time to shine. No one really cares about the Caps, Wiz or Nats to fully occupy her time. Now she can devote even more attention to this ragtag group of ragamuffins.

Enter Wiz, Caps and Nats apologists.

Posted by: Dorf | February 4, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

I could go for an unsourced rumor about now.

Posted by: dcsween | February 4, 2008 03:35 PM

Don Mattingly married Nick Nolte...

http://thebiglead.com/?p=4472

Posted by: 4-12 | February 4, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

I know most of my post about Spagnola was irrelevant, but it did show that he has had successes everywhere he's been. He might not make a good head coach, but compared to the other candidates I like him the most. Mooch was horrible in Detroit, Ron Meeks coached a defense that until recently was seen as weak, how many rushing yards did they give up the Jags in 2006?, and Jim Fassel just got fired from the Ravens and Giants.

Posted by: F0X | February 4, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

I could go for an unsourced rumor about now. I'm even willing to accept fiction, but only if its plausible, and surrounds a person or organization that is big enough to be known, but not big enough to be important.

Posted by: dcsween | February 4, 2008 03:35 PM

When Gibbs resigned, The Owner secretly engaged a top-level advisor* to review all the potential candidates for fit** with the Redskins organization.

After a careful evaluation the advisor recommended someone familiar with the Washington market with extensive managerial experience at CEO level.

Ladies and gennulmen, I give you the next coach of the Washington Redskins;

Richard Bruce "Dick" Cheney!!

Will this do Sween?

* Richard Bruce "Dick" Cheney
** Myers-Briggs psychometric test for compatibility with Daniel M. Snyder

Posted by: Redcoat | February 4, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Don't hate the player, cload, hate the game.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 4, 2008 03:23 PM

LMGO... that just hit the spot!

Posted by: daggar | February 4, 2008 3:49 PM | Report abuse

dude Dorf! Caps rule! Buy a clue man!!!!!!!

just taking your cue...no hard feelings...i do love the caps though......keep on abiding on

krissy lArrY

Posted by: clawrence | February 4, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

McNabb to the Ravens.

http://www.philly.com/dailynews/sports/20080204_Eagles_-_Ravens_eye_McNabb_.html

Plausible? Check.
Heard of them? Check.
Unimportant? McNabb? Ravens? Check.

Posted by: dcsween | February 4, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

So, who is taking the blame in Boston today for the Patriots' loss? They don't have Snyder or Cerrato to kick around so the finger has to point at ... Belichick? McDaniels? the O line? Rodney Harrison? Who?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 4, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Had a great night last night. Sat at home with a few beers to watch the Giants debacle the Patriots, while I had some L Cool JJ playing in the background. I was so happy I blurted of at the mouth!

Posted by: kost52 | February 4, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Good grief, what if it's Fassel after all this?

That would suck.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 4, 2008 03:39 PM

Nate, sometimes the killer turns out to be the guy who was caught with the bloody knife in the first scene.

Posted by: freakzilla | February 4, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

TA, I delightfully listened to the local sports talk radio last night after the game, and people were pinning this on Coach Bill, which when you think about it makes sense. ZERO adjustments in their offensive game-plan. Going for it on 4th and 13, instead of kicking the FG. You don't have to be any type of expert to know that Brady was getting the smugness beat out of him, they needed to go max-protect.

Like I said, all things considered, a delightful time not to be a pats fan.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 4, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

** Myers-Briggs psychometric test for compatibility with Daniel M. Snyder

Posted by: Redcoat | February 4, 2008 03:45 PM

I'm saying I-I-F ... not sure how to evaluate the J-P continuum on him, but he doesn't seem like a guy with much P-ness.

Posted by: dcsween | February 4, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

"So, who is taking the blame in Boston today for the Patriots' loss? They don't have Snyder or Cerrato to kick around so the finger has to point at ... Belichick? McDaniels? the O line? Rodney Harrison? Who?"

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 4, 2008 03:54 PM

"TE, I delightfully listened to the local sports talk radio last night after the game, and people were pinning this on Coach Bill, ...."

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 4, 2008 04:00 PM

I had assumed that Pats fans (like the ones in my office) were incapable of finding fault in their personification of perfection ... and would be blaming the officiating today.

Posted by: dcsween | February 4, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

greg,

The Emperor has no clothes? Belichick doesn't walk on water?

He would have been my first pick. I still can't understand the thinking on 4th and 13.

How do folks feel about him walking off the field before the game was over?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 4, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Not that I think Spags would necessarily be a bad choice...

I do think it is funny that after one prime time audition people are ready to crown him... I will admit he looks pretty good on paper but consider this...

What if the Patriots had clobbered the Giants yesterday would there have been a Josh McDaniels Bandwagon?

Also I know a couple people have said it already but what the hell happened with the Mooch interview? In scouring the internet I am only able to find a few outlets reporting that the meeting took place... If this is true where are all the juicy facts/rumors as to how said meeting went?

Posted by: trailblazer658 | February 4, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

I delightfully listened to the local sports talk radio last night after the game, and people were pinning this on Coach Bill, which when you think about it makes sense. ZERO adjustments in their offensive game-plan. Going for it on 4th and 13, instead of kicking the FG. You don't have to be any type of expert to know that Brady was getting the smugness beat out of him, they needed to go max-protect.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 4, 2008 04:00 PM

That sounds more like the responsibility of one Josh McDaniels, the uber-OC, but maybe with not quite enough experience.

Posted by: tafka | February 4, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

How do folks feel about him walking off the field before the game was over?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 4, 2008 04:03 PM


Wasn't Randy Moss fined by the team when he did that against us? I certainly hope Billy Boy gets the same treatment!

Posted by: kost52 | February 4, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

I must admit, at least Brady hasn't come out and blamed anything on his ankle (has he?). Nothing worse than a case of loser's limp!

Posted by: kost52 | February 4, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

FOXX, how does Spag impress you?

You discredit Meeks because "up until recently, he coached a defense that was seen as weak."

Meeks' defense has been rock solid for two YEARS. Spags defense has been solid for two MONTHS.

In any case, what they coached their defenses to do is irrelevant... Blanche is coaching our defense, so if you want either of these two to be the new HC, you have to ask yourself: "which of these two guys do i want teaching Zorn how to be an offensive coordinator?"

Answer - NEITHER. The hiring of Zorn and promotion of Blanche demands an offensive-minded head coach. If we had kept saunders, we could have afforded to hire a defensive HC, but now, we can't. We've got a seasoned defensive coordinator who needs NO HELP running his defense. We've also got a FIRST TIME offensive-coordinator who is going to need A LOT of help to run our offense.

Its Fassel or Mooch. Any defensive hire would be foolish on Snyders part.


Posted by: SETH.LEMASTER | February 4, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Wasn't Randy Moss fined by the team when he did that against us? I certainly hope Billy Boy gets the same treatment!

Posted by: kost52 | February 4, 2008 04:07 PM

I thought that the league should fine Belichick -- and the Patriots. The commissioner can't be too happy about having to kiss Arlen Specter's ass because of the Patriots, and that behavior last night really gives the league a bad image.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 4, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

On the other hand, maybe the Patriots lost simply because they were not able to videotape the Giants' final walk-through?

Posted by: tafka | February 4, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

If you read here, you must be a league insider (or should be). Here's the offer, Chad Johnson/WR/Bengals for Jeremy Shockey/TE/Giants. Do you make the trade? To me, this kind of trade looks like it would be a major attitude adjustment ... in that both guys have major attitudes ... that would be adjusted geographically.

Posted by: dcsween | February 4, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Another rumo(u) for you Sween:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AjleeJ_3u4_NufC6nvVP.b85nYcB?slug=ap-vick-signingbonus&prov=ap&type=lgns

2009 Atlanta Falcons quarterback? Michael Vick. Count on it.

Posted by: Redcoat | February 4, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

DC, bostonians are quick to turn on someone. Bill is the latest person that everyone is turning on. The local paper is calling this one of the worst choke jobs in Boston sports history.

TA, he deserves the scorn that he gets. He's truly a classless, and bitter man, arrogant to a fault.

I mean, there were no shortage of players deserving blame last night, either.

1. 4 possible interceptions dropped during the final drive by the Giants. Pick a player, Harrison, Samuel, Hobbs, all had a ball go off their hands.

2. Matt Light getting LIT up all game long, as well as 2 falst start penalties.

3. The defensive line getting ZERO pressure on Manning until the 4th quarter. The same defensive line that has 3 First Round picks in it.

I'm truly enjoying this.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 4, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

If a malcontent screams in Cinncinati, does it make make a sound?

Posted by: tafka | February 4, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

I would trade Snyder for Vick

Posted by: greg_hughes90 | February 4, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Great weekend

MONK and GREEN into the hall and classless little billy belichek whines his way off the field before the game is even over.

Sweet!!!!!

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 4, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Vick doesn't have to pay back his bonus, so Arthur Blank is going to welcome him back with open arms? I don't think so.

Posted by: tafka | February 4, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

I'm saying I-I-F ... not sure how to evaluate the J-P continuum on him, but he doesn't seem like a guy with much P-ness.

Posted by: dcsween | February 4, 2008 04:00 PM

For those who want to know what on earth this means (though why you would, I have no idea).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myers-Briggs_Type_Indicator

I have to agree with you Sween, I don't think he has any P-ness at all. Are you an HR bod or something?

Posted by: Redcoat | February 4, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Its Fassel or Mooch. Any defensive hire would be foolish on Snyders part.


Posted by: SETH.LEMASTER | February 4, 2008 04:09 PM

the two hottest offensive coordinators in the game this year were first-timers, and both had to look up to defensive-minded head coaches (Jason Garrett and Josh McDaniels to Wade Phillips and Bill Belichick respectively). I don't think Snyder hired Jim Zorn because he wanted someone to come in and mentor him.

Posted by: psps23 | February 4, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Even though they won last night (esp. against all odds and Big Media), I'm no more concerned about the Giants next season than I was this season. The first game (week 3?) was given to them (by Gibbs, Betts, or Yoder, depending on your perspective) and the game at the Meadowlands was a Todd Clobber Fest.

That said, they did jam in the last draft under their new GM, esp. in comparison to the Skins "unbroken, unfixed" approach to the draft (and to promoting the unbroken, unfixed approach to racquetball).

Posted by: dcsween | February 4, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

I heard this morning that 148.3 Million US Americans watched the game. That's almost half the population!

Posted by: kost52 | February 4, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

#!1 Goat of the Super Bowl:

Adam Vinitieri for missing that 49 yard field goal on 4th and 13.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 4, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Ignoring the Spygate implications for the moment, the triumvirate of Spags/Zorn/Blache would look alot like the old triumvirate of Belichick/Weis/Crennel in New England, circa 2002. (A defensive-minded head coach might be the best friend a new OC could have, from the perspective of how to gameplan against a specific defense.)

Posted by: tafka | February 4, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Vick doesn't have to pay back his bonus, so Arthur Blank is going to welcome him back with open arms? I don't think so.

Posted by: tafka | February 4, 2008 04:17 PM

Prodigal Son Tafka, Prodigal Son.

Atlanta retained his registration. Vick (deliberately?) failed a drug test just before giving himself up for incarceration, which actually gives him a chance of earlier release! Blank has 0% chance of getting his money nack, but he would be able to have Vick at Vet. minimum when he comes back, which should be in time for the '09 season.

If you were Arthur Blank who has really stood by Vick the whole way through this and other problems, what would you do? I think Blank is a good man who will give Vick another chance because he thinks it's the right thing to do.

Posted by: Redcoat | February 4, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

I concede that I know nothing about Spagnuolo other than the stuff here today and the recent media reports, but the one thing that is most attractive to me about this guy is that he looks slightly insane in an about-to-escape inmate kind of way. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/04/AR2008020400183.html

If they go for a head coach with a background in defense, then along the lines suggested by tafka (game plan brainstorm help), I'll jump on the (probably small) Ron Meeks bandwagon. Playing your guys against the Peyton Manning machine has got to be edifying, plus Dungy, for all his moralism, seems like he's run a disciplined show with his team, i.e., I like the influences that Meeks would have learned under.

Posted by: dcsween | February 4, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

the two hottest offensive coordinators in the game this year were first-timers, and both had to look up to defensive-minded head coaches (Jason Garrett and Josh McDaniels to Wade Phillips and Bill Belichick respectively). I don't think Snyder hired Jim Zorn because he wanted someone to come in and mentor him.

Posted by: psps23 | February 4, 2008 04:17 PM

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All you need to know about Zorn is that Seattle couldn't have cared less about keeping him. Garrett, if i'm not mistaken, is making more money than his HC now... you really can't compare the two. As far as McDaniels goes, in my opinion, last night he proved that he would likely crumble without Belichick.

Zorn needs some hand-holding and he needs an offensive guy to do it.

Posted by: SETH.LEMASTER | February 4, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

The primary thing that Meeks lacks compared to this Spagnuolo fellow would be that look of potential insanity.

Posted by: dcsween | February 4, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Darrell Green is going to be on Rome is Burning on ESPN. The show just came on.

Posted by: JustMe | February 4, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Just as an aside, anyone else think that Tom Petty now looks like one of the guys from Abba?

What happened there?

Posted by: Redcoat | February 4, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

All you need to know about Zorn is that Seattle couldn't have cared less about keeping him.

Posted by: SETH.LEMASTER | February 4, 2008 04:29 PM

Seattle actually wanted to keep him, but couldn't block a progressive move. Holmgren wasn't retiring, and there was no opening for offensive coordinator.

Posted by: psps23 | February 4, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Vick may be out of jail in time for the 2009 season, but I don't think Goodell will allow Vick to play in 2009. Pacman got suspended for a year for (mostly) bad behavior. It seems easy for Goodell to justify another year off for Vick after his jail term, since Vick actually admitted to and was convicted of a serious crime. Since Vick appears to have lied to both Blank and Goodell in the process of covering up his misdeeds, there is no reason to believe that Goodell will be lenient. Add to that the damage done to the NFL trademark by the Vick saga, and a 2010 reinstatement seems optimistic.

Posted by: tafka | February 4, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Over/Under on a new post today?

Posted by: naes22308 | February 4, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

UNDER

Posted by: greg_hughes90 | February 4, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

My point was that if you bring in a guy for specific skill-sets, you try to let him do his thing. If you hire Zorn because of his pedigree, then you don't bring in someone above him that will negate that. You don't bring in Al Saunders to run his system Gibbs' way. And you don't bring in Jim Zorn to run his offense the way Mooch would. If you want Mooch's offense, then let him bring in who he wants.

Posted by: psps23 | February 4, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Add to that the damage done to the NFL trademark by the Vick saga, and a 2010 reinstatement seems optimistic.

Posted by: tafka | February 4, 2008 04:37 PM

You're probably right, but the dynamic I would throw into this mix would be twofold:

1. Will Goodell be able to get away with levying an additional punishment once Vick has served his time?
2. Will the NFLPA get involved if Goodell tries to extend his ban?

Posted by: Redcoat | February 4, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

We watched the Simpsons movie the other week as we both liked the show but never get a chance to watch any more. It was like all the pace and humo(u)r that is packed into a 22-minute show were suddenly strung out over about 90 minutes. Result: a few good jokes with nothing much between.

Posted by: Redcoat | February 4, 2008 03:28 PM

The Simpson movie is what I could call an unfunny movie. Seems like to whole point of it was to further the agenda of the global warming crowd. In fact, the show itself hasn't been all that funny in about 10 years. Right around the time Phil Hartman was killed, the show went downhill...

You may remember me from such self-help tapes as 'Smoke yourself thin' and 'Get some confidence, Stupid!'

Posted by: barno | February 4, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Seriously.. Is anyone going to be excited at this point when they finally hire someone?? I think only disapointment is in the near future.. None of these guys excite me, it a case of picking the best of the worst.

Posted by: greg_hughes90 | February 4, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

re: Vick. Besides, I think Atlanta will draft a new QB in April and move on without Vick, since there is no way for them to know when Vick might be back at this point. It seems like a logical move, unless they can get one of their current roster QBs to step up. (Redman? Harrington? The DC guy from Jax?)

Posted by: tafka | February 4, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

i actually would be excited by spags. i like his coaching lineage (jim johnson has always been one of my favorite coordinators to watch work), and he showed last night and the past month that he's big-time when the pressure's on. meeks is intriguing, but i don't think his system would fit our personnel well (we were awful in the cover-2 last year). i just hope it's not fassel or mooch.

Posted by: psps23 | February 4, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

1. Will Goodell be able to get away with levying an additional punishment once Vick has served his time?
2. Will the NFLPA get involved if Goodell tries to extend his ban?

Posted by: Redcoat | February 4, 2008 04:42 PM

1) Yes, because he has been able to do so with much less to work with. (PanMan case is a good example.)
2) I don't see the NFLPA getting involved in the issue, because I don't see the dog-killing issue going away. The PETA-type groups are going to be waiting to see what the NFL does when Vick gets out of jail. The NFLPA will be smart to stay out of that fight.

Posted by: tafka | February 4, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Sample anti-Vick PETA campaign of the future: "Dead dogs don't get a second chance - why should Michael Vick?"

Posted by: tafka | February 4, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

As a Republican voter in Maryland, I can't decide if I'm less excited about the GOP candidates or the Redskins' HC candidates. None of them have the proper credentials for the job but we're forced to deal with the "least worst."

my political mantra is: anyone but Hillary. my football mantra is: anyone but Fassel.

Posted by: DreamOutLoud | February 4, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

"As a Republican voter in Maryland, I can't decide if I'm less excited about the GOP candidates or the Redskins' HC candidates. None of them have the proper credentials for the job"

Posted by: DreamOutLoud | February 4, 2008 04:54 PM

John McCain has been criticized for a lot of things, but not having the "proper credentials" is a new one. DreamOutLoud, my friend, you couldn't be more wrong. The man has every credential one could hope for in a president, especially during war time.

Posted by: barno | February 4, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Re Vick,

I am not sure if he has been sentenced on state charges yet. As I recall the state charges were posted well after his Federal sentencing. I am also not clear if the terms (if convicted) would be served concurrently or consecutively.

Posted by: driley | February 4, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

We could always start a write-in campaign: Fassel for President. Anything to keep him away from the Redskins.

Posted by: tafka | February 4, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

HIRE MARIUCCI, DAN!!

HIRE MARIUCCI!!

HIRE MARIUCCI!!

(also Dan, you will be run out of town if you hire Fossil. . . just to let you know)

Posted by: SonnyFan | February 4, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

barno, thanks for pointing out that i needed to clarify something. It's not that McCain doesn't have credentials to be President. He doesn't have the credentials to be a CONSERVATIVE president...and that's something that I'm looking for (and not finding).

There are lots of people with credentials to be a head coach (frankly Fassel and Mooch have already been head coaches), but that doesn't mean they have what i'm looking for in a head coach.

bottom line: i'm forced to compromise, both politically and footbally.

Posted by: DreamOutLoud | February 4, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Random football thought - Jeremy Shockey would look great in a Dolphins uniform.

Posted by: tafka | February 4, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Well at least we have the HOF to take our minds of this HC debacle.
Just got my tickets today, looks like the floor is sold out and about half of the stadium too.... Should be lots of Skins fans. Now I just need to find that #81 jersey.

Posted by: COskins | February 4, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

fassel is the right short term hire. after next year, danny boy should break out the bearer bonds for cowher and long term success. i'd even take mooch long term, but fassel cannot be looked at as the savior of the franchise.

Posted by: jeffhall1906 | February 4, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

We could always start a write-in campaign: Fassel for President. Anything to keep him away from the Redskins.

Posted by: tafka | February 4, 2008 05:00 PM


I hope you aren't suggesting that Snyder hire Hillary to be the head coach. please, tell me you aren't.

Posted by: DreamOutLoud | February 4, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Football chat: HURRAH!
Jibba jabba: Huzzah!
Politics and Religion: Boo!!

Posted by: Redcoat | February 4, 2008 5:08 PM | Report abuse

I don't think anyone should get over excited about a new head coach....as its shown in the past to be a frivolous pursuit.

The players play......I'm more excited for having 6/7 Draft picks for a change and really building a team around Campbell.

What should the 1st round Skins Pick be...A DE / DL? A WR? A CB? Another LB? a RB? an OL?

Posted by: goosedude | February 4, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Hillary can be head coach of a field hockey team if she wants. She could never be the Redskins coach, because you would not be able to keep Bill away from the Redskinettes.

Posted by: tafka | February 4, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

DE/CB/OL/LB/OL/OL

Posted by: tafka | February 4, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

I'd trade Snyder for one of thoes 3 year old hotdogs at 7eleven

Posted by: naes22308 | February 4, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

That draft list was in order by round. Anyone who saw last night's game and doesn't see the need for a real threat at Left DE is clueless.

Posted by: tafka | February 4, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Once Spags talks to someone like Pierce about the Skins opening, there is a good chance that he will get talked out of it.

Posted by: joeboggs | February 4, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

It's only 4 weeks until Free Agency. DO you know where your salary cap is?

Posted by: tafka | February 4, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Only a moron would listen to Pierce regarding anything other than the coverages for the next series.

Posted by: tafka | February 4, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Zorn needs some hand-holding and he needs an offensive guy to do it.

Posted by: SETH.LEMASTER | February 4, 2008 04:29 PM

It doesn't matter if the head coach has an offensive or defensive background. The main point is to get the best head coach. I am definitely not sold on Fassel and am lukewarm on Mariucci. Zorn could be good for the Skins offense, we are not gonna know till they start playing again next year. But if we hire Fassel or Mooch I won't be shocked if we see the same type of underacheiving .500 teams.

Posted by: cdubb | February 4, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Had a great night last night. Sat at home with a few beers to watch the Giants debacle the Patriots, while I had some L Cool JJ playing in the background. I was so happy I blurted of at the mouth!

Posted by: kost52 | February 4, 2008 03:57 PM

Kost- I'm guessing either:

18-1) You're still drunk, or
not 19-0) You're channelling your inner Emmitt?

Posted by: 4-12 | February 4, 2008 5:22 PM | Report abuse

It's only 4 weeks until Free Agency. DO you know where your salary cap is?

Posted by: tafka | February 4, 2008 05:16 PM


Our new Head Coach is wearing it. Unfortunately we don't know where he is.

Posted by: kost52 | February 4, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse

So the group consensus on the Head Coaches seems to be leaning in the current direction:

1) Spagnuolo
2) Meeks
3) Mariucci
4) Spuds McKenzie
5) Mr. Ed
6) Cardboard cutout of various deceased coaches
7) Hillary Clinton
8) Fossilman

Posted by: tafka | February 4, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

So the group consensus on the Head Coaches seems to be leaning in the current direction:

1) Spagnuolo
2) Meeks
3) Mariucci
4) Spuds McKenzie
5) Mr. Ed
6) Cardboard cutout of various deceased coaches
7) Hillary Clinton
8) Fossilman

(Sorry - Fossilman is a poker player)
9) Jim Fassel

Posted by: tafka | February 4, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Anybody catch Danny $nyder's Garmin commercial last night?

Posted by: nojunk4me | February 4, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Snyder uses his Garmin to try to locate HCcaches.

Posted by: tafka | February 4, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Snyder uses his Garmen to find his ass with both hands.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 4, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

You can fantasize about draft picks all you want. However, we do not know if the master plan at this point is for immediate gratification or for long term building. I would put the chances at around 1 in 6 that we will actually have 6 draft picks on draft day, simply because in the recent history of this franchise a new coaching hire has meant that we have immediately traded draft picks to pick up some player that the new coach has deemed essential to his regime (remember Brunell?).

Posted by: driley | February 4, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

I laughed out loud when I read about the card board cut outs of dead coaches.

Posted by: Skinz | February 4, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

So the group consensus on the Head Coaches seems to be leaning in the current direction:

1) Spagnuolo
2) Meeks
3) Mariucci
4) Spuds McKenzie
5) Mr. Ed
6) Cardboard cutout of various deceased coaches
7) Hillary Clinton
8) Fossilman

(Sorry - Fossilman is a poker player)
9) Jim Fassel

Spuds McKenzie is dead.

So move him to number 8.

Posted by: RedBee | February 4, 2008 5:38 PM | Report abuse

4-12 - Nice work!! I reckon it's a big question mark going into the off-season. Does ESPN keep Emmitt?? He's gathering a bit of a cult following!

At first I hated listening to him, because he was just so bad, but now I like being able to laugh at him!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cy-Yx_yands

Posted by: kost52 | February 4, 2008 5:38 PM | Report abuse

tafka, I don't think there's a consensus about anyone of the guys who have actually interviewed or rumored to have interviewed. I'm not even sure that there is a consensus about whether The Owner and his EVP can or cannot be trusted to choose wisely.

Actually, I don't think there is much consensus about anything up here, except for maybe the part about feeling really really bad about Sean Taylor not being alive, and the part about Miss Teen South Carolina needing maps, such as.

Posted by: dcsween | February 4, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

With rapier wit
4th provides useful stories
but cannot haiku

Posted by: cload and daggar | August 29, 2007 12:42 AM

So true. That's why I don't try....

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 4, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

I also considered putting Tom Petty on the potential coaches list, but couldn't decide whether he was dead or alive after last night's performance.

Posted by: tafka | February 4, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Also, more on consensus (and lack thereof). Of all the guys pumping for Limas Sweed or a stud DE, I'm saying that the Skins need to think OT. I know people disagree with me on this. I'm just saying that an OT can play without use of his thumbs ... but an OT definitely needs to be able to use his ankles. THIS injury was something where there was blog consensus, when it happened, specifically, that this was a bad injury at a bad time. http://kissmesuzy.blogspot.com/2007/09/somethings-wrong-with-this-photo.html

Posted by: dcsween | February 4, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Next year's Super Bowl half-time entertainment: Steely Dan.

Posted by: tafka | February 4, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

I know this is not a political blog, but I am so tempted to jump in this McCain is not "conservative" enough.......

Maybe its just the limp wristed pinko commie self hating anti-american me, but if a anti-choice, pro 100 years of war, prisoner of war, lifelong republican, anti-gay rights, neo-con is "wrong"...i dont know what "right" is....

I guess acknowledging that not torturing our enemies, and that maybe...just maybe the earth might be warning makes you a lefty.

KRISSY LARRy

Posted by: clawrence | February 4, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Sween - Redskins can think about OT in the 3rd round, since they have Heyer and Alexander to consider at the position as well. At DE, there is only Demetric Evans (UFA) and Chris Wilson (3rd down guy only) behind Daniels, and I see Daniels leaving town very soon - like in 3 weeks.

Posted by: tafka | February 4, 2008 5:51 PM | Report abuse

Shockingly, I am with Barno. If I was a republican I would be happy to vote for McCain...

but oh yeah right Limbaugh and Coulter dont like him, and they have our countries interest at heart.....

OK OK I am done....

Fassel sucks!

Posted by: clawrence | February 4, 2008 5:52 PM | Report abuse

Hey, enough with the Fassel-bashing! He's obviously the best choice because:

1. He's soooooo available--no worries about "competing" for him or trying to deny him from the Skins. No worries about him withdrawing his name!

2. The Eagles, Giants, and Cowboys might even be willing to pay his salary for the Skins! I went to a NY Giants insider blog earlier and Giants fans are positively ecstatic about the prospect of Fassel as the Skins HC. They hope he gets a reeeeally long term contract. (One fan was generous enough to recommend Ray Handley for the Cowboys!).

3. Don't tase me, bro!

Posted by: Alan4 | February 4, 2008 5:56 PM | Report abuse

The sense of NEGATIVITY runs rampant in here. Jason please stop giving people that have no idea about football and no guiding light a forum to voice idiotic opinions.

Mooch won't last
Anything but Fossill
Who would want to take a head coaching job with the assistants in place

(Same old garbage- you guys are worse than Dan Snyder!

Posted by: jamesjb32 | February 4, 2008 5:56 PM | Report abuse

There's a winning campaign slogan - "Limbaugh and Coulter hate me - what else do you need to know?"

The moral compass of most politicians spins like a top. Can't imagine what the moral compass of a political pundit looks like. (Coulter in leather? Limbaugh in chains?)

Posted by: tafka | February 4, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Hmmmm..."Coulter in leather"-- I am finally able to see a pleasant side of her.

The only way I can successfully picture Limbaugh would be in a sound proof booth, where all of his gibberish would be contained and not let out to pollute the atmosphere. (Although I think that he only needs an audience of one, himself.)

Posted by: driley | February 4, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

I still can't get over the fact that the Pats got blewed out. And as for Belicheck's lack of class, that doesn't surprise me at all, you can't change a leopard's stripes.

Posted by: kost52 | February 4, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

You know I think Snyder has been given to much of a hard time with the hiring process right now.

We don't know about the Gregg Williams situation. But given the respect for Gibbs if Gibbs had said "make Gregg the next coach" he would be. For all we know of those four meetings only one could have been about the head coaching vacancy and the other three to try to convince him to come back as defensive coordinator.

Posted by: barnett2 | February 4, 2008 6:06 PM | Report abuse

I hope they hire the right person and not the flavor of the month!

Posted by: LongTimeSkinsFan | February 4, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

I still can't get over the fact that the Pats got blewed out. And as for Belicheck's lack of class, that doesn't surprise me at all, you can't change a leopard's stripes.

Posted by: kost52 | February 4, 2008 06:05 PM

Not defending the Pats cause I think the fact they lost is just flat out funny cause 18 & 0 means nothing but to say they got blown out or "Blewed out" as you stated is a bit unfair and not true....I wouldn't say 17 to 14 is a blow out.

Posted by: leevi98 | February 4, 2008 6:35 PM | Report abuse

leevi98, misunderstood me mate, I'm just in a Emmitt "Smithisms" mood. I don't think it was a blow out either.

Posted by: kost52 | February 4, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

I hope they hire the right person and not the flavor of the month!

Posted by: LongTimeSkinsFan | February 4, 2008 06:20 PM

What if the right person is also the flavor of the month? What should we do then?

Going with Fassel would ensure you don't get flavor of the month. He hasn't been any flavor for about six years.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 4, 2008 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Ya know It's hard to say who will be the next HC this week...But I can't help but keep thinking it will be Steve Mariucci with having to wait for him to finish his coverage of the Superbowl...after all...I feel if Jim Fassel were the guy, he would have been named by now with nothing in the way of the hire. Same with Ron Meeks. If Steve Spagnuolo were the guy, of course they had to wait, but I just don't see how this will work with him being a defensive coach with a defensive cord. already hired. Signs point to the Mooch...But hell who knows what will happen...would not surprise me if he comes out and says Bill Cowher is the coach...but why not annouce that already...Not saying that will happen...just saying nothing will surprise me.

Posted by: leevi98 | February 4, 2008 6:44 PM | Report abuse

I still can't get over the fact that the Pats got blewed out. And as for Belicheck's lack of class, that doesn't surprise me at all, you can't change a leopard's stripes.

Posted by: kost52 | February 4, 2008 06:05 PM

Not defending the Pats cause I think the fact they lost is just flat out funny cause 18 & 0 means nothing but to say they got blown out or "Blewed out" as you stated is a bit unfair and not true....I wouldn't say 17 to 14 is a blow out.

Posted by: leevi98 | February 4, 2008 06:35 PM

leevi98, misunderstood me mate, I'm just in a Emmitt "Smithisms" mood. I don't think it was a blow out either.

Posted by: kost52 | February 4, 2008 06:40 PM

got ya :) sorry

Posted by: leevi98 | February 4, 2008 6:45 PM | Report abuse

EMMITT FOR HEAD COACH!!

Can you imagine the post-game conferences!

"They were a fortable ponent, we just couldn't stop them from masturbating the ball down the field. Our goal is to win a National Championship, but we play in the NFC East, which is the toughest Conference in the NFC. We're going through a rice of passage at the moment, but if we win the division, we're a good chance to make the playoffs. Today, it came down to two words, we lost big time".

Posted by: kost52 | February 4, 2008 6:46 PM | Report abuse

I be done thinking we's can really win dis game....If we do we be the Greatess super bowl winners of all times and then we get our freak on!

Posted by: leevi98 | February 4, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

"We've got Lindsey Czarniak covering the practices."

Ugggggggggggg

As soon as I see that goofy wall-to-wall grin on Sports4 I can't get my hands on the gizmo fast enough. News4 in in the tank because of her!

Posted by: bestmick1 | February 4, 2008 6:57 PM | Report abuse

ESPN tonight -- Around the Horn, PTI, then Sports Center -- all thought that Snyder would go for the big plash and they agreed the big plash is Spagnuolo. Personlly, I like big splashes better than little plashes or no plashes at all.

They also agreed that Belichick is a classless jerk, and even Wilbon thought that the league should fine him or suspend him for a few games for walking off the field before the game was over. Tony said "You won't be having dinner with him again any time soon."

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 4, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Was Spags in Reno 911??

Posted by: kost52 | February 4, 2008 7:13 PM | Report abuse

I have to weigh in on the political discussion above. Sure McCain has some bad ideas, but he simply isn't incandescently incompetent enough to fire up the base. The perfect "conservative" candidate would combine traits from four of the top ones: McCain's passionate unwillingness to try anything new, Huckabees's shameless pandering to the religious right, Giuliani's practiced fear mongering and Mitt Romney's height and hair. Add to that a little homophobia, xenophobia and good old fashioned intolerance and you have a candidate worthy of grabbing the baton from the worst American president in modern history.

And F Fassel. I'll take the flavor of the week. At least it's fresh.

Posted by: mack1 | February 4, 2008 7:28 PM | Report abuse

Was Spags in Reno 911??

(1) I didn't know we were exporting that type of carp internationally.
(s) Only as a deranged psycho. We're surpried Up Here that you noticed.

Posted by: daggar | February 4, 2008 7:28 PM | Report abuse

I have to weigh in on the political discussion above.

No, really, you didn't.
We have perfected politics in America -- little, deranged people capable of doing little. If it was truly important, we'd
(a) pay better
(%) attract a better quality of human being
(145) use impeachment a lot more.

Posted by: daggar | February 4, 2008 7:33 PM | Report abuse

damn, that sounds a little cynical.

But as I say at the office... "I'll give up being cynical the moment it lets me down..."

Posted by: daggar | February 4, 2008 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Going with Fassel would ensure you don't get flavor of the month. He hasn't been any flavor for about six years.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 4, 2008 06:41 PM

That's good because at least he's not "vanilla" then! :)

Ann Coulter in leather....

http://www.tornadohills.com/strange/images/114.jpg

Posted by: Redcoat | February 4, 2008 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Cload, yeah we have it here. In trying to lure more people into signing on for Pay TV, they have gone for the quantity over quality approach.

Posted by: kost52 | February 4, 2008 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Ann Coulter makes a living out of making your blood boil.
Which is different than boiling your blood.
But not by much.

Posted by: daggar | February 4, 2008 7:45 PM | Report abuse

Wow, kost, so tell me that there's a "Gilligan's Island/Reno 911" doubleheader.

I wonder how that's covered in our balance of trade? That would explain a lot of the trade deficit...

Posted by: daggar | February 4, 2008 7:49 PM | Report abuse

Bony Ann Coulter
a Michigan Law Alum
Crazy like a fox

Posted by: daggar | February 4, 2008 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Taking a cue from the classless quitting head coach??

Tom Brady and Randy Moss pulled out of the Pro Bowl on Monday, a day after the New England Patriots were beaten in the Super Bowl.

After throwing a league-record 50 touchdown passes during the season, Brady was battered by the New York Giants during their 17-14 win Sunday. He has been bothered by a tender ankle and was photographed in New York wearing a protective boot two weeks prior to the Super Bowl.

Brady, who first injured his ankle against San Diego in the AFC championship game, was sacked five times by the Giants. He will be replaced by Cleveland Browns quarterback Derek Anderson.

Moss, who caught a record 23 TD passes from Brady during the season, had five receptions for 62 yards and a TD in the Super Bowl. He will be replaced by disgruntled Cincinnati Bengals receiver Chad Johnson.

The Patriots have not said why either of the Patriots stars' opted out.

Posted by: cdubb | February 4, 2008 7:56 PM | Report abuse

Schefter reported on NFL Network that Snyder cannot interview Spags until after the Giants parade - so the interview will take place either tomorrow night or Wednesday. Schefter said he does not know which way Snyder will go (a rarity since he usually knows everything :) but thinks Spags leads the pack with Mooch and Fassel still in the race.

Posted by: Lisa_R | February 4, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Let's see, MASH, Hogan's Heroes (Double Header), I Dream of Jeannie, Bewitched, The Cosby Show, World's Wildest Police Videos, Worlds Craziest Videos, America's Funniest Home Videos, Ripley's Believe it or Not, Matlock, Beverly Hillbillies, Murder She Wrote. Nope, sorry no Gilligan's Island today!

Posted by: kost52 | February 4, 2008 8:00 PM | Report abuse

Lisa, and John Clayton STILL insists that it will be Fassel.

Posted by: kost52 | February 4, 2008 8:02 PM | Report abuse

I've got no real dog in the Bellichek fight, but it looked to me that the clock had expired, he gave Coughlin his hadnshake, pat on the back, and congrats, and then Mike Carey came over to tell them that they had to run one play.
I'm not going to excoriate him for getting off the field for that. Did you want him to do the handshake again?

Posted by: daggar | February 4, 2008 8:03 PM | Report abuse

$3 Trillion budget
$14 Trillion economy
buy Fiji instead

Posted by: daggar | February 4, 2008 8:08 PM | Report abuse

I've got no real dog in the Bellichek fight, but it looked to me that the clock had expired, he gave Coughlin his hadnshake, pat on the back, and congrats, and then Mike Carey came over to tell them that they had to run one play.
I'm not going to excoriate him for getting off the field for that. Did you want him to do the handshake again?

Posted by: daggar | February 4, 2008 08:03 PM

Nope, just take his loss like a man. Like everyone else in the league...every last glorious second of it.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 4, 2008 8:08 PM | Report abuse

Wow, little did I realize what a breath of fresh air the season ending would be.

That season really sucked.

Hail to the new season!

Posted by: farstriker | February 4, 2008 8:08 PM | Report abuse

He didn't have to go to congratulate Coughlin again but he could have to some of the Giants players. You win as a team and you lose as a team. His players were still on the field while he is running up the tunnel. You think they wanted to be out there for one last meaningless second?

Posted by: cdubb | February 4, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

I'm spewing that Eli took a knee in the first place, he should've faked the knee, and thrown deep to Burress.

Running up the score? Who me??

Posted by: kost52 | February 4, 2008 8:19 PM | Report abuse

I have to weigh in here on the coaching search. Frankly, I'm not thrilled about any of the candidates. There, I said it. If you could hire anyone available...who?? For me, it's a short list. I'd first take a long, hard look at Grimm. Is he head coach material? Why did the Steelers pass on him? He certainly has a history with us and he certainly knows line play. I would rather us take a chance on somebody up and coming than pick a retread. So I suppose Spags and Meeks would fit that bill. That about does it. Any thoughts?

cosmofla

Posted by: squashmo | February 4, 2008 8:29 PM | Report abuse

For the trillionth time
One too many syllables
cload in treehouse form

Posted by: mvdame | February 4, 2008 8:45 PM | Report abuse

I love what Spags did in the playoffs/superbowl this year but to me, he has that unmistakable flavor-of-the-month quality. He looks great now, but he only has one season as a coordinator to go by. His body of work, while impressive, is very short...so basically he's Snyder's kind of guy.

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 4, 2008 8:51 PM | Report abuse

I'd also like to add how elated I am that the Patriots 18 win season will forever be judged as a collasal failure.

But still, you know, F the Giants.

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 4, 2008 8:55 PM | Report abuse

mack1 pretty much summed up today's political debate for me. As someone who is fairly conservative in the old Barry Goldwater tradition, I am aghast at what has become of the Republican Party and, for the third consecutive presidential election will be casting my vote for the Democrats. Though, for the first time in my life, this will not be a reluctant vote. I am actually quite proud of my vote this time around and, speaking to the 4 other Republicans living in the Pacific Northwest, I get the impression they are as well.

At the same time, bestmick1 is in my doghouse for dissing Lindsey Czarniak.

I saw (briefly, because now I more or less ignore him) that barno hinted at not believing that Global Warming was real. I don't have the patience to look it up, but did we bring up Creationism as well? Because, if so, then I estimate we're only two posts away from calling for a bill recognizing the Tooth Fairy and a third post away from a mention of the Earth being flat.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 4, 2008 9:01 PM | Report abuse

mea culpa. A three-year-old wanted her ice cream, and I rushed that one. Kinda like a certain all-Pro QB last night.

Posted by: daggar | February 4, 2008 9:07 PM | Report abuse

Spags has been a DC one year! He is clearly not a seasoned candidate.

What is in the water around here?

Posted by: gdennie | February 4, 2008 9:08 PM | Report abuse

$3 Trillion is about $10,000 per person, or $1.95 if you include the illegals. Is the gummint using your $10K effectively?

Posted by: daggar | February 4, 2008 9:09 PM | Report abuse

His body of work, while impressive, is very short...so basically he's Snyder's kind of guy.

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 4, 2008 08:51 PM

Flag on the play. Snyder's hired Gibbs, Schottenheimer, and Spurrier. All had long, established track records of success as head coaches. Spurrier's was in the college level, but an unproven coordinator would be very much a leap.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 4, 2008 9:15 PM | Report abuse

Spagnuolo prepared a defense very effectively through an incredibly tough playoff run -- Garcia, Romo, Favre, and Brady.
You interview him to get a measure of the man, how he did it, what's important to him, whether he's a rising star or a one-hit wonder. I'm not ready to crown him, and I think our biggest challenges are on offense, but I certainly think he deserves an interview.

Posted by: daggar | February 4, 2008 9:16 PM | Report abuse

What is in the water around here?

Posted by: gdennie | February 4, 2008 09:08 PM

Likely that Spags will be pushed in the water if he's the one who can make the Big Plash.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 4, 2008 9:21 PM | Report abuse

Hang on a sec, did we just have an MVDame sighting??

Posted by: kost52 | February 4, 2008 9:44 PM | Report abuse

BONG!

Posted by: bigmurf08 | February 4, 2008 10:13 PM | Report abuse

Spags biggest selling point is that he knows the Giants and Eagles very well...and hiring him would take him away from the Eagles.

But can you all see Blache with all his experience having to answer to someone who has never been a head coach before? I can't see that happening.

Posted by: Lisa_R | February 4, 2008 10:23 PM | Report abuse

I heard Art Monk on Riggo's radio show this evening. He said that he hadn't told anyone publicly, but that last year he had written a letter to the HOF committee to tell them not to put his name on the ballot in the future. Fortunately, those close to him convinced him to wait one more year before sending it. He said he was 99% sure that if he hadn't been chosen this year he would have sent it so he'd never have to deal with considering whether he'd get in or not again.

Posted by: JustMe | February 4, 2008 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Thine eyes do not deceive, kost.

"Don't quit. Don't even quit."

Posted by: mvdame | February 4, 2008 10:39 PM | Report abuse

Another thing......on Redskins Radio today, Larry Michael let it "slip" that Mooch had been interviewed 2 weeks ago. At least it sounded like a "slip." Bram was questioning him about how Mooch would fit since Snyder has already hired the OC and DC. Bram said "if they have interviewed Mooch, it was just in the last few days and how would he feel about having no say in the coaching staff?" Larry replied "how do you know they did not interview him 2 weeks ago?" Bram said "did they?" Larry replied..."they could have." It looked like a slip to me - one that Larry was trying to cover up.

Posted by: Lisa_R | February 4, 2008 10:47 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for that tidbit, Lisa. I had turned my radio on Larry and Bram, then turned it off. They both kinda get on my nerves sometimes.

Posted by: JustMe | February 4, 2008 10:53 PM | Report abuse

Bye-bye, Double-G's.
You wouldn't kiss Vinny's ring.
So Danny axed you.


Fassel--true dat name.
Looks as old as a fossil.
And just as lively.


Mooch has such pretty
eyes--Vinny'd be SO jealous
of Danny's mancrush.


Spags: the new thrilla--
Or Peter principle?
O? Plain vanilla.

Posted by: farstriker | February 4, 2008 11:00 PM | Report abuse

Oops, typo. Here's a correction:

---------------------------------

Bye-bye, Double-G.
You wouldn't kiss Vinny's ring.
So Danny axed you.


Fassel--true dat name.
Looks as old as a fossil.
And just as lively.


Mooch has such pretty
eyes--Vinny'd be SO jealous
of Danny's mancrush.


Spags: the new thrilla--
Or Peter principle?
O? Plain vanilla.

Posted by: farstriker | February 4, 2008 11:02 PM | Report abuse

I'm going to get this right. Don't we have a thread count to build? Added a crucial syllable:

=================================

Bye-bye, Double-G.
You wouldn't kiss Vinny's ring.
So Danny axed you.


Fassel--true dat name.
Looks as old as a fossil.
And just as lively.


Mooch has such pretty
eyes--Vinny'd be SO jealous
of Danny's mancrush.


Spags: the new thrilla--
Or just Peter principle?
O? Plain vanilla.

Posted by: farstriker | February 4, 2008 11:09 PM | Report abuse

What we need is an old sea chantey. farstriker, this is your homework. I'm going to drink some tequila.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 4, 2008 11:14 PM | Report abuse

Zorn needs some hand-holding and he needs an offensive guy to do it.

Posted by: SETH.LEMASTER | February 4, 2008 04:29 PM

Zorn has Bugel and Breaux and people to lean on. Just put together a stout offensive line and any play will work. You don't have to invent new plays anymore, just pick what you like from what everybody else does, just so long as it fits your personell. And just so long as you don't get into a rut. Gotta change things up a lot. But Zorn will be as good as any coordinator. Just give him the horses.

Posted by: skinfanman | February 4, 2008 11:25 PM | Report abuse

Zorn needs some hand-holding and he needs an offensive guy to do it.

Posted by: SETH.LEMASTER | February 4, 2008 04:29 PM

Zorn has Bugel and Breaux and people to lean on. Just put together a stout offensive line and any play will work. You don't have to invent new plays anymore, just pick what you like from what everybody else does, just so long as it fits your personell. And just so long as you don't get into a rut. Gotta change things up a lot. But Zorn will be as good as any coordinator. Just give him the horses.

Posted by: skinfanman | February 4, 2008 11:25 PM

You really make it sound like winning a SB is just so very easy and a Monkey can do it.

Posted by: leevi98 | February 4, 2008 11:30 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: skinfanman | February 4, 2008 11:31 PM | Report abuse

Spags is not the guy. Just the Danny doing recon in the Division. Danny would have to fire Blache to hire Spags. Plus, you give me Yumi, Strahan, Tuck and AP and I can call a decent defense. That's basically like the Skins line in the 80s with Dexter, Mann, Butz and the rest...

Posted by: boot1 | February 4, 2008 11:34 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe folks aren't excited about Jim Zorn as the OC. This guy is fantastic. Give him a shot. Blache has proven himself as a DC. The coordinators will not be the issue next year.

The big question is whether or not the leadership triumverate will help or hurt the franchise...

Posted by: PDiddy | February 4, 2008 11:34 PM | Report abuse

I saw (briefly, because now I more or less ignore him) that barno hinted at not believing that Global Warming was real. I don't have the patience to look it up, but did we bring up Creationism as well? Because, if so, then I estimate we're only two posts away from calling for a bill recognizing the Tooth Fairy and a third post away from a mention of the Earth being flat.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 4, 2008 09:01 PM

RE: "I saw (briefly, because now I more or less ignore him)"

Wow. That is mighty big of you P Doody. Thanks for distorting my comments in which I referred to the "Global Warming crowd" by claiming I "hinted at not believing that Global Warming was real." Really? Is that what I was hinting at?

Actually, no. No one believes that Global Warming isn't "real." The debate is over whether man is the reason for global rise in temperature, not whether it actually is or isn't going up.

Amateurs. Gotta love 'em.

Keep it real PD.

Posted by: barno | February 4, 2008 11:58 PM | Report abuse

This is what I have to say... I am not very pleased about the way the owner for the skins has gone about things, considering the fact that he is keeping everybody in the dark..coaches and fans. First I loose my head coach, which I extremly admired, then I loose what I thought was a hard nosed redskin coach
Greg Williams.. that would keep "redskin football" alive. What poof of hope as a fan have I got now???? I want to here some GD insurance that our team is going to be alright!!! Is it to much to ask for the owner to make just one......one stupid anoucment about what is going on. Well wait a minute he can't even talk to his staff right along us little people,"the fans". THIS JUST SUCKS!!!

Posted by: gawnpostal | February 5, 2008 12:12 AM | Report abuse

HIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: leevi98 | February 5, 2008 12:13 AM | Report abuse

Okay, I love my new puppy, but bloody hell if I haven't picked up enough poop in the past 36 hours to fill my own landfill.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 5, 2008 12:13 AM | Report abuse

Hit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: leevi98 | February 5, 2008 12:13 AM | Report abuse

Spags biggest selling point is that he knows the Giants and Eagles very well...and hiring him would take him away from the Eagles.

But can you all see Blache with all his experience having to answer to someone who has never been a head coach before? I can't see that happening.

Posted by: Lisa_R | February 4, 2008 10:23 PM

Lisa, I see the samething with Grimm...I mean can you see Buges coaching under Grimm? Or any other of the seasoned coaches?

Posted by: leevi98 | February 5, 2008 12:17 AM | Report abuse

Just venting, thanks for listing .

Posted by: gawnpostal | February 5, 2008 12:20 AM | Report abuse

WTF? The Audi R8 (advertised during yesterday's Super Bowl, and the car Iron Man will drive in the movie this summer) is an inexplicable $120K. There better be a damn Cuisinart and champagne cooler in it for that amount of money, because unless the name of the car sounds like a strange pasta, it is simply not worth that kind of money.

Of course, the same crazy nanny state people who want to legislate people's bedroom activities will suddenly come up with an Anti-Cuisinart-While-Driving law. Idiots.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 5, 2008 12:20 AM | Report abuse

gawnpostal, I hear ya.

I've been watching lots of E! to cope with this nonsense. I know all about who's dating who in Hollywood. I feel like I'm somehow enriched by this knowledge. After all, famous people are better people.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 5, 2008 12:23 AM | Report abuse

Who the H. thinks of some crazy sh.. to say like that???

Posted by: gawnpostal | February 5, 2008 12:27 AM | Report abuse

First time in two years I have gotten a response to someone.I wasn't sure there where actually human beings on this thing.

Posted by: gawnpostal | February 5, 2008 12:32 AM | Report abuse

"WTF? The Audi R8 (advertised during yesterday's Super Bowl, and the car Iron Man will drive in the movie this summer) is an inexplicable $120K."


To start with the R8 shares a lot of engine components with the Lamborghini Gallardo....that'll add a few dozen eggs right there.

Posted by: isnadd | February 5, 2008 12:35 AM | Report abuse

Do you want to play a game of chess?

Posted by: PDiddy | February 5, 2008 12:37 AM | Report abuse

Yes...but...it's an Audi.

I subscribe to the one very simple Principle of Buying Cars That Cost As Much As Houses: If it doesn't get you l--d, it's not worth the money.

Sorry, an Audi doesn't rank. For that money, it's gotta be a Maserati or Aston Martin Vantage.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 5, 2008 12:39 AM | Report abuse

I live in Delaware. I have to deal with very rude Eagles fans for the most part off the year, some Steelers fans, and Ravens fans. For some reason the Eagles fans think Delaware is Eagle territory. If it is any consilation you should have seen the sea of redskins fans in the Grottos Bar in Seaford De, It would make your heart flutter. I have to put up with a lot sh$$. But I love my team.

Posted by: gawnpostal | February 5, 2008 12:46 AM | Report abuse

P Diddy when you wrote:

"I can't believe folks aren't excited about Jim Zorn as the OC. This guy is fantastic. Give him a shot. Blache has proven himself as a DC. The coordinators will not be the issue next year."

Were you serious?

I am not excited about either of these guys. I'm indifferent not quite pessimistic but definitely not cautiously optimistic.
Zorn, west-coast new offense for everyone third professional offense for JC.

Blache, was a coordinator himself before and didn't run the exact same thing as double gg but need I remind anyone about George Edwards? Yeah, the guy who was bringing us continuity on defense have Marvin Lewis got his HC gig. How did that work out? Not to mention can Blache get the same out of Doughty and Torrence or any other Joe Blow on the D?

Posted by: bangkokben | February 5, 2008 12:57 AM | Report abuse

I love how ya'll use the big anulitcal words to describe your feelings. but the answer to you question is simply ummm. Noooo.

Posted by: gawnpostal | February 5, 2008 1:08 AM | Report abuse

So Kids what did we learn from yesterday's Super Bowl? ANything and everything can happen and the biggest lesson?

The Redskins had a legitimate at not only getting there but WINNING IT! I for one inside as the end was nearing in the game. Kept thinking this could have been us......I was reminded the whole game about the Skins everytime I saw that 21 on the back of the Giants helmets....The single factor for me pulling for the Giants to win this game was just that. The Pats hardly had any plyers with Taylors 21 on their helmets...But the GiAnts ALL still had 21 theirs.

Damn I feel like Gibbs was soo close now that we saw the Ginats win it....man wouldn't that have been sweet...Oh well

Congrats to The G-men and their fans...You deserve it...ENJOY! hope someday we can also feel that one more time!


HAIL!!!

Posted by: mcdanielproductions | February 5, 2008 1:09 AM | Report abuse

if there is anyone real on this blog simply answer back by saying ...yes

Posted by: gawnpostal | February 5, 2008 1:16 AM | Report abuse

Gawnpostal,

This is an automatically generated response from the other side of the world - not an actual human being but a computer perbutrating one. So not quite a yes.

Posted by: bangkokben | February 5, 2008 1:24 AM | Report abuse

Yes, gawnpostal. And again, yes.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 5, 2008 1:38 AM | Report abuse

Things I learned during the Super Bowl:

1. The NFL will ensure that every commercial break next season includes a Manning.
2. Joe Buck is a fashion disaster. Two button suit, and he does up both buttons.
3. They should have Super SloMo'ed Belichick's exit from the stadium.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 5, 2008 1:41 AM | Report abuse

Hello, Dave.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 5, 2008 1:45 AM | Report abuse

Dead or alive, you're coming with me.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 5, 2008 1:46 AM | Report abuse

Danger Will Robinson!

Posted by: PDiddy | February 5, 2008 1:47 AM | Report abuse

"I'm incarcerated, Lloyd!"

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 5, 2008 1:55 AM | Report abuse

Oh Joanna, that was a new dress.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 5, 2008 1:56 AM | Report abuse

"My god, it's full of stars."

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 5, 2008 2:06 AM | Report abuse

Damn this! Testing...

Posted by: SMACK1 | February 5, 2008 2:17 AM | Report abuse

Great, the idiotic one goes through. Sigh.

Posted by: SMACK1 | February 5, 2008 2:19 AM | Report abuse

OK some of the coaching blog talk is very well thought out and reasoned. This is the problem as I see it. We need an 'independent' head coach because no one thinks Vinny is worth spit (see below). Even if he has learned and is independent of Dan the thought that the HC is not 'in charge' will cause more problems than he can fix without great talent. Spags can get this authority perhaps, the others have already 'sold out', although I don't think mooch would take the job after the lions. The situation is of VinnyDans' making and speaks to how badly they have gone through the process. I don't think Spags is the Key but for these reasons he is the only hope.


They way things have gone down we can see the ineptitude of how the whole HC thing. Not that we know all the insides but this is a VinnyDan power play. "We learned", "Gibbs is guiding us" ect. If mooch and Fassel gave the OK to a 3-4 then they are tools or retarded. Same if the gave the OK to hiring the whole coaching staff. The first move does not fit our personel the second attacks the authority of the HC.

Posted by: mul | February 5, 2008 3:20 AM | Report abuse

F continuity! Rebuilding is fun. Look where it's got us in the last 15 years.

Posted by: bangkokben | February 5, 2008 4:35 AM | Report abuse

Something is about to happen.

Posted by: mul | February 5, 2008 5:54 AM | Report abuse

"what"

Something wonderful!

(this is a 2010 reference - 1984)

Posted by: mul | February 5, 2008 5:56 AM | Report abuse

From Jasno's article (this morning) to our eyes:

Snyder and Cerrato interviewed Tennessee assistant Jim Schwartz, Fassel, former Redskins assistant Gregg Williams (then still on the staff), Seattle assistant Jim Mora, Indianapolis assistant Ron Meeks and former San Francisco coach Steve Mariucci. Snyder also had discussions with USC head coach Pete Carroll and former Pittsburgh Steelers coach Bill Cowher, league sources said.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/04/AR2008020402822.html

Posted by: TheCrickets007 | February 5, 2008 6:26 AM | Report abuse

I saw refences to one of my fav people - Ann Coulter. You might enjoy this:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=B4hacmvSPaI

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 5, 2008 6:45 AM | Report abuse

Kost -

Great job on your Emmitt Smith imitations!!!

Hahahahahahaha!!!

L Cool JJ may have to be your new nickname!

Posted by: TheCrickets007 | February 5, 2008 6:52 AM | Report abuse

Don't know if anyone noticed it, but in the Wilbon article of a few days ago, he mentioned that Sunday would have been his "21"st year covering the Super Bowl (had it not been for his sudden health issue).

It just seemed to be another one of those random coincidental occurrences.

Posted by: TheCrickets007 | February 5, 2008 6:57 AM | Report abuse

Is anyone else having problems with this froggy blog? It seems like the software is morphing into Freezable Type.

Posted by: TheCrickets007 | February 5, 2008 7:01 AM | Report abuse

Could MVDame be the "not guy"?

Posted by: TheCrickets007 | February 5, 2008 7:02 AM | Report abuse

So much for Peter King being a good guy this year with respect to Art Monk being voted into the Hall of Fame.

"Now, I heard a lot of people say, 'Wow. Cris Carter didn't get to the final five. That's an upset.' Maybe, but historically, not really. Lots of first-year candidates, regardless of their resumes, struggle to make it. I firmly disagree with the 'let's make him wait his turn' philosophy, because I believe Carter is a historically better wide receiver than Art Monk, but I am only one of 40 voters. My feeling, and it's one I've shared with my fellow selectors, is that we should ask ourselves every year, 'Who are the best candidates this year?' If Carter's better than Monk, we shouldn't be concerned about taking a guy who's been close so many years and finally putting him over the top. Finally, if you get to the final five, chances are you're going to make the Hall anyway, because you've already gotten a majority of voters to support you."

If you care to read the rest:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/peter_king/02/04/Giants/3.html

Posted by: TheCrickets007 | February 5, 2008 7:11 AM | Report abuse

"I've always taken the attitude of, 'If it happens, it happens.' It's out of my control. It would have been nice to get in the first year, the second year, the third year, but it's nice just to get in.''

--Former Washington wideout Art Monk, who, in his eighth year of eligibility for the Pro Football Hall of Fame, finally was elected Saturday.

Posted by: TheCrickets007 | February 5, 2008 7:12 AM | Report abuse

More garbage commentary from Peter King:

"I love this class. I wish Carter had made it, and not just because I work with him at HBO. But this class is good because it gets some of the deserving men who've been knocking at the door, like Tippett and Fred Dean and Monk and Gary Zimmerman -- a two-time all-decade player, and you can count those historically on two hands -- through the door so we can concentrate on a strong class next year."

Wow . . . just wow.

Posted by: TheCrickets007 | February 5, 2008 7:19 AM | Report abuse

In case you missed it yesterday, here is a site with lots of great video on the career of Art Monk.

http://www.monk4thehall.com/

Posted by: TheCrickets007 | February 5, 2008 7:28 AM | Report abuse

The WaPo server's batteries must be running low, so off we go!

Posted by: TheCrickets007 | February 5, 2008 7:29 AM | Report abuse

No need for a new post as there is no news.

Posted by: bangkokben | February 5, 2008 7:38 AM | Report abuse

Here's a super (smart?) salute to Super Tuesday.

Vote for coach.

The candidates are:

A) Jim Fassel
B) Steve Mariuchi
C) Ron Meeks
D) Steve Spagnuolo

If you're a party guy you good go with retreads against co-ordinators, offense vs defense, or Steves vs non-Steves.

I'm of the Steve party and my pick is Mooch but would support any of the Steves.

Posted by: bangkokben | February 5, 2008 7:49 AM | Report abuse

Why did could come out good? Don't think I can blame the blog.

Posted by: bangkokben | February 5, 2008 7:51 AM | Report abuse

Way to mono-blog.

I already answered above. Spags is the only hope at the moment. The rest of them will be run into the ground by VinnyDan. I think Mooch is a good coach. No opinion about Meeks. But the will be run into the ground.

BTW do you belive Al Davis got a good coach and sent him off the Tampa (then lost the supperbowl). And now is in a stand of with another young coach which everyone seems to like.

Posted by: mul | February 5, 2008 8:17 AM | Report abuse

Funny...

"Is There a Tabloid Hottie Jinx on NFL QBs?"
http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/story?id=4239658&page=1

Posted by: JustMe | February 5, 2008 8:24 AM | Report abuse

"Plus, you give me Yumi, Strahan, Tuck and AP and I can call a decent defense. That's basically like the Skins line in the 80s with Dexter, Mann, Butz and the rest..."

Good call.

I've been saying for years now that the Skins are building thier team ass-backwards. If you have a good d-line and o-line then the battle is more then already half won.

I'll give you another name: Mike Nolan.

He had no d-line here what so ever, he goes to the Ravens and he's a genius again. Dude is trying to save his job out in SF the last time I checked.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | February 5, 2008 8:25 AM | Report abuse

"Plus, you give me Yumi, Strahan, Tuck and AP and I can call a decent defense. That's basically like the Skins line in the 80s with Dexter, Mann, Butz and the rest..."

Having a great d-line definitely helps. But prior to this year, Umenyiora was just a talent, Strahan was a fading star, and Tuck was a nobody. Now all three are at the top of their positions with respect to the rest of the nfl. The difference this year? Spagnuolo.

Coaches make the players as much as players make the coaches.

Posted by: psps23 | February 5, 2008 8:39 AM | Report abuse

The theory that hiring Spagnuolo will weaken the Giants is a short-sighted fantasy.

Imagine that the Redskins sign Spagnuolo to be their head coach. The Giants will need a new defensive coordinator. Who's the best D coordinator on the market today?

The Giants D ranked seventh in the NFL last year and the Redskins ranked eighth.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 5, 2008 8:39 AM | Report abuse

My super tuesday vote goes to.....SJ9....that's right, what better canidate for the HC than the ol' gun slinger himself...at this point it's just a figure head anyway, I think that would cause a "splash"
Danny
Vinny
Sonny
see it works!

Posted by: kelly2field | February 5, 2008 8:43 AM | Report abuse

"grabbing the baton from the worst American president in modern history."

No, moron, the worst presidents in modern American history are as follows:

1. Jimmy Carter
2. Bill Clinton
3. Gerald Ford
4. G W Bush
5. FDR (for introducing entitlement government)

Posted by: bestmick1 | February 5, 2008 8:47 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 5, 2008 9:05 AM | Report abuse

I'm in NYC and heard on the radio from Micheal Kay (Yankee's Announcer with afternoon drive time show) that he sat in the same box with D. Snyder for the superbowl. Said he had a good time and that Snyder was really rooting for the Giants to win. I am taking this as a suttle sign that Snyder was pulling for Spags. On a side note, M. Kay also commented that Ms. Snyder had a diamond ring the size of a ring-pop but, we could have guessed that.....

Posted by: markobalkan | February 5, 2008 9:10 AM | Report abuse

"grabbing the baton from the worst American president in modern history."

No, moron, the worst presidents in modern American history are as follows:

1. Jimmy Carter
2. Bill Clinton
3. Gerald Ford
4. G W Bush
5. FDR (for introducing entitlement government)

Posted by: bestmick1 | February 5, 2008 08:47 AM

Nixon?

Or JFK he almost blowed us all up in 2 short years.

Posted by: mul | February 5, 2008 9:12 AM | Report abuse

grabbing the baton from the worst American president in modern history."

No, moron, the worst presidents in modern American history are as follows:

1. Jimmy Carter
2. Bill Clinton
3. Gerald Ford
4. G W Bush
5. FDR (for introducing entitlement government)

Posted by: bestmick1 | February 5, 2008 08:47 AM

I guess history is not your strong suit. FDR??? Do the words "The Great Depression" mean anything to you? Wow..Just Wow"

Posted by: roweq | February 5, 2008 9:16 AM | Report abuse

The theory that hiring Spagnuolo will weaken the Giants is a short-sighted fantasy.

Imagine that the Redskins sign Spagnuolo to be their head coach. The Giants will need a new defensive coordinator. Who's the best D coordinator on the market today?

The Giants D ranked seventh in the NFL last year and the Redskins ranked eighth.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 5, 2008 08:39 AM

Excellent point! I'm sure Williams would love to be the DC for the Giants and face us twice a year. If you look at the pedigrees of Spags and Williams, but take away the names, Williams is hands down the better qualified. Why would Snyder hire Spags to be head coach while firing Williams?

Posted by: jimwell | February 5, 2008 9:18 AM | Report abuse

"what"

Something wonderful!

Posted by: mul | February 5, 2008 05:56 AM

"where are you Dave, I can;t see you?"

"I am now where you will be"

"Will I dream?"

"Yes"

Posted by: Redcoat | February 5, 2008 9:37 AM | Report abuse

Why would Snyder hire Spags to be head coach while firing Williams?

Because Snyder likes new toys even if they're the same toy but with different packaging.

BTW, batteries not included.

Posted by: bangkokben | February 5, 2008 9:37 AM | Report abuse

Why would Snyder hire Spags to be head coach while firing Williams?

Because Snyder likes new toys even if they're the same toy but with different packaging.

BTW, batteries not included.

Posted by: bangkokben | February 5, 2008 09:37 AM

Maybe we can suggest that Gregg Williams spike his hair and grow a beard. He could then reenter the Redskins Coaching Sweepstakes!

Posted by: jimwell | February 5, 2008 9:41 AM | Report abuse

jimwell, I agree about the whole body of work, but Spagnuolo just led a really impressive D to a championship... which is something I believe GggW does not have on his resume. So there's that.

Saw about a hundred Giants jerseys this morning. (More Shockeys than anything else... which reminds me of the Onion headline "Fan Favorite White.") What a joy to be in NYC on the day they have their freakin' victory parade. Chooches. Better them than the Pats, anyway.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 5, 2008 9:47 AM | Report abuse

There is some other stuff about Spagnuolo that is tilting me that way. Stuff about having started in the NFL as an intern under Bobby Beathard in San Diego (i.e., personnel experience) and special teams stuff in NFL Europa. http://www.giants.com/team/coach.asp?coach_id=10

Also, I think Blache is a professional and that, having already accepted a "demotion" (from having been a DC for the Bears to then being a line coach under Williams), it doesn't seem like he would feel slighted if they brought in a defensive minded HC.

Also, I like the term "fire blitz".

It also occurs to me that having worked inside two of the organizations in NFC East means tons. The best the Skins can hope for in Division is 3-3. If there is any chance that Spagnuolo can tilt that to 4-2, then that could make all the difference.

That said, I still think next year will be another "transition year" ... again.

Posted by: dcsween | February 5, 2008 10:03 AM | Report abuse

Oh for crying out loud! Doesn't anyone have the courtesy to beep beep anymore!

Posted by: dcsween | February 5, 2008 10:06 AM | Report abuse

Bob Knight quit....WTF?

Posted by: gregorygibson | February 5, 2008 10:19 AM | Report abuse

Yes, Bobby Knight is throwing in the chair ... er, towel.

Posted by: dcsween | February 5, 2008 10:19 AM | Report abuse

lets stop buying skins gear and maybe snyder will wake up and realize he is going to lose his fans if he keeps jerking us around. i had faith in dan until this now. he starting to look more like peter angelos of the orioles, a real clown. maybe dan can give half ownership to angelos for half owner ship of orioles and call them red orioles. that way it would be only one team screwing up instead f two. buy skins gear only after they get to super bowl. its been long enough.

Posted by: rls1041 | February 6, 2008 10:05 AM | Report abuse

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