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Spags To Stay With the Giants

Steve Spagnuolo will remain with the New York Giants and is not a candidate for the Redskins job according to a source with knowledge of the situation. A formal announcement is likely to come later today, with a new three-year deal from the Giants on its way, too.

Spagnuolo returned to the New York area this morning. Jim Fassel was seen by many as the frontrunner to get this job, with Spagnuolo emerging late. It would appear to be headed that way now.

By Jason La Canfora  |  February 7, 2008; 11:55 AM ET
 
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Comments

Isht!

BONG!

Posted by: bigmurf08 | February 7, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Pick a bridge and plan your jumps. Feel free to double or even triple up, plenty of 'em around.

Posted by: Megskin | February 7, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

10th!

Posted by: bgmoneym20 | February 7, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Come on MOOCH!

Posted by: bigmurf08 | February 7, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Its time for Gibbs round 3

Posted by: phillychill03 | February 7, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Spags is a smart man...as evidenced by his decision as sad as it is to say.

Posted by: tvalado | February 7, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

I DO so seriously hope and pray that JLC's barometer is off. Of all the candidates, Jim Fassel, is the worst...end of discussion!

Posted by: songsofpraise | February 7, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

F Fassel & Snyder!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: celts32 | February 7, 2008 12:00 PM | Report abuse

WE should ask Snyder to rename the team "+/- 1"
Looking at Fassel's record, thats about all we can expect in his tenure....8-8 +/- 1.

Posted by: scotchirishprince | February 7, 2008 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Spags would be a great coach for the Eagles if/when Andy Reid retires. So would GG. Would love to know what precipitated Spags no longer being in the running...

If Fassel ends up winning a Super Bowl, I will print this post, wrap it around a hot dog, and give it to barno to eat.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 7, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

This has gone from bad to worse.

What a joke.

Posted by: CMoney1 | February 7, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Ahem...I'll rehash my post from earlier today.

""The biggest thing I believe that he has learned is patience. He obviously has more patience than we do. If not he would probably already hired a HC and perhaps made a huge mistake that in years to come everyone would be slamming him about."

There's a fine line between patience and complacence. Don't discount the fact that his lengthy decision process is losing him candidates. If you find the right man, you hire him. That's it. You don't need to take 4 interviews and a month without contact to decide if somebody will come along who's better suited for the job.

Snyder used to be the guy that when he found who he wanted, he wouldn't let that guy out of his sight before a deal was in place. Now he's done a 180, and just lets his candidates run free hoping that they'll come back to him when he calls.

Remember, it was originally reported that GW pulled his name from the list of candidates. It was GW's decision, not Snyder's. GW wanted out.

And what if the best candidates out there were Jim Caldwell or Jason Garrett? What if Snyder secretly had them at the top of his list? But he and his "due diligence" released them to get counter-offered by Indy and Dallas, and they agreed.

Snyder used to be the guy that snatched up whoever he wanted. Now he's having it get done by other owners. Not necessarily for those two guys listed before, but it is getting done. Remember a couple weeks ago, who was at the top of Snyder's reported list? Jim Mora. What if at the end of this whole process, it turns out that Mora was the best out of any candidate out there? Snyder had to go through his "thorough process", he allowed Mora to leave, and Mora decided to take his options elsewhere. The old Snyder would've had his man on the 1st try. The new Snyder allowed his man to leave.

I'm not saying that any of these guys would've been the best choice for Snyder. In fact, I think Snyder has lucked out with Spags ending up so hot, being IMO the best candidate, and being able to be the last guy interviewed. What I AM saying is that this whole process was done incorrectly. I'm saying that if Spags was available and was interviewed a month ago, and Snyder opted to practiced his "due diligence", it's very likely that Spags would've went elsewhere.

He lucked out and now has Spags available, but the way Snyder went about this process just screamed for a mediocre selection. He very well would have waited and waited for the next best guy to come along, then finally realize that there is no perfect guy, and by the time he turned around all his "plan B" top choices would've been snatched up. All he would've been left with are "plan C" retreads and leftovers that weren't good enough for any other jobs out there.

Just one man's opinion.

Posted by: psps23 | February 7, 2008 09:07 AM "

I guess I'm forced to support my leftover fossil. yaaaay fassel.

Posted by: psps23 | February 7, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Please help me understand something ...

Almost everyone is up here screaming, bit@@ing and moaning about Fassel....F FOSSEL ... yadda yadda yadda....

Why on Earth is everyone sooo convinced that Spags is the answer??? Is it because he "is sooo intense??" Because he has a cool nickname?? Because he yells and screams on the sideline?? He was an assistant that did a great job for ONE GAME !! Granted, it was a pretty amazing game. None the less, we are going to hand over the keys to someone with NO RESUME?!?!?

Fassel at least has taken teams top to the play-offs and a Super Bowl. He has a history of at least leading quality teams.


I guess I'm in the minority here, but I don't feel the need to jump off the 14th st bridge....besides my ex-wife lives in SW DC...she might get a kick out of me jumping.

Posted by: cej75024 | February 7, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

WE should ask Snyder to rename the team "+/- 1"
Looking at Fassel's record, thats about all we can expect in his tenure....8-8 +/- 1.

Posted by: scotchirishprince | February 7, 2008 12:00 PM

God help me, I think I'm nostalgic for Norv.

Posted by: InRealAmerica | February 7, 2008 12:03 PM | Report abuse

The only positive I see coming out of this is that fassel should have something to prove with all of the negativity coming his way . . .

It seems as if Snyder can't even make the "splash" hire anymore

Posted by: jrickard | February 7, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Neither Spags nor Fassel are great candidates. But at least Spags was an unknown. Maybe you hit the lottery.

Fassel is a mediocre joke of a coach and we're going to be at the same place three years from now when he gets fired as we are now:

8-8 +/-1

Posted by: smutsboy | February 7, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

AAAAAAUUUUUUGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

Posted by: theslick50 | February 7, 2008 12:06 PM | Report abuse


Here we go again.

Any leads on Redskin One picking up Jeff George?

Posted by: the_squire | February 7, 2008 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Well, I guess Spags had enough wisdom not to join the the cluster#$%^ that our team has become. I REALLY hope that Snyderatto can dig deep and avoid the team-killing mistake of hiring Fassel. Fassel is a boo-inviting retread who will not be successful here. Maybe he'll be a stopgap measure until something shiny is able to distract the attention of the Redskins brain(?)trust. Why does Snyder make it so hard to be a fan of this team?

Posted by: mw11385 | February 7, 2008 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Spags must of gotten a preview of Sally Jenkins column and decided to take her advice!

Posted by: howardhaney | February 7, 2008 12:07 PM | Report abuse

MEEKS! MEEKS!

Posted by: dah19972003 | February 7, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Are they saying Boo or Boo-urns?

Awful, just awful. Please go with Meeks.

Posted by: cdubb | February 7, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Yeah...let's bring in Norv...oops...we can't afford him either....he's taken SD to championship...IN HIS FIRST YEAR....and look where we are.

Posted by: hardhitter | February 7, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Why do people hate Fassel so much? Didn't he win a Super Bowl? Since it's not Greg Williams or some hot young assistant then it's a bad hire? C'mon people...let it play out!

You'd have crucified Greg Williams after 0-1...stop pretending he was the savior. I wanted him to but damn!

Posted by: rickyroge | February 7, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Think Fassel will bring Kerry "Cocktail" Collins in as backup?

Posted by: mofass79 | February 7, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

From the previous post, someone (mofass maybe?) mentioned a "ball peen hammer". Because my "job" consists of reading Wikipedia all day, I had to go find out what this is:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball-peen_hammer

RI once again proves that as long as you ignore barno's posts, you may actually learn something up here.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 7, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Maybe the only reason Fassel would be a good choice is because he really doesn't give a damn and just wants the money, so maybe he'll just let the coordinators do all the work. Let's hope.

Oh yeah, Fassel sux!

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 7, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Skins presser coming soon.... - Team apparel bonfire immediately after ...

Posted by: pat5387 | February 7, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Boo!!!

The only hope now is Ron Meeks, and I'm not optimistic.

Let's not even stage a charade. Just let Snyder coach the team. It's going to happen eventually. Snyder has already played the role of "the scout who brought you Patrick Ramsey" and "the GM who brought you Trung Canidate." How could coaching be far off? Heck let's even have him take a few snaps under center. He deserves it for all he's given this city!

Posted by: drischord | February 7, 2008 12:10 PM | Report abuse

MOOCH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: drumer1972 | February 7, 2008 12:10 PM | Report abuse

mooooooooch, no to Fassel!

Posted by: tkawamoto22 | February 7, 2008 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Have the Reskins become such a laughing stock that the front runner for the HC position is someone who hasn't been a head coach in 5 years and got fired as Off Coord from a pathetic offense 3 years ago is now poised to lead this team... oh fun times ahead.

Billionaire = expensive toys = heartache for those that support the toy

Posted by: Stevida | February 7, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

This is beyond entertaining....

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 7, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Why do people hate Fassel so much? Didn't he win a Super Bowl? Since it's not Greg Williams or some hot young assistant then it's a bad hire? C'mon people...let it play out!

You'd have crucified Greg Williams after 0-1...stop pretending he was the savior. I wanted him to but damn!

Posted by: rickyroge | February 7, 2008 12:08 PM

He did not win a Superbowl..he made it there and choked. Regardless, I do not like Fassel, he has no personality.

Posted by: hardhitter | February 7, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Prior to the Giants/Buffalo game, many believed that the Giants were going to complete yet another 2nd half collapse and miss the playoffs entirely. This would have cost Coughlin and the rest of the Giants staff (including Spags) their jobs. As it turns out, they made a great run through the playoffs and Spags was made to be a genius, with his HC stock at an incredible high.

My bet is that the Giants return to their mediocre ways next year, as they often do after a great season. Spags stock will return to being a hit and miss DC, and he will have missed his opportunity to land a head coaching opportunity.

Posted by: drbatchelor | February 7, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

I have been in snyders corner since hes been here, I cant believe ive defended him the whole time.I always felt he really wanted this team to win. I have no more in the tank, there is no defence he is running this team into the ground and since we have become the running stand up comedy in this league...off all the candidates left it better not be fossil he frikkin SUCKS!!!!!!im dont with it then, no more tickets, jerseys and hats...screw the front office

Posted by: flk23 | February 7, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Wow, this has become an amazing joke.

Don't forget that Ron Meeks is still out there. Wonder if he gets another interview/torture session out at the Mansion?

Posted by: acoberst | February 7, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

rickyroge, come on, dude. You know it's our God-given right to complain endlessly without any knowledge whatsoever!

For the record: I think if Fassel takes this underachieving lot and manages to eke out 9 wins, he will have done his job. The offensive line is old, the defensive backs are injured or worse, the linebackers are old and/or injured, and the receivers are midgets. The team has some great running backs, a very compelling, young defensive line, and a QB to build around. 9 wins would be a miracle, just as it was this past season.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 7, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Almost everyone is up here screaming, bit@@ing and moaning about Fassel....F FOSSEL ... yadda yadda yadda....

Why on Earth is everyone sooo convinced that Spags is the answer??? Is it because he "is sooo intense??" Because he has a cool nickname?? Because he yells and screams on the sideline?? He was an assistant that did a great job for ONE GAME !!

Posted by: cej75024 | February 7, 2008 12:02 PM

I think you're misinterpretting. We're not saying Spags is the answer, we're saying that Fassel IS NOT!

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 7, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Wow. Easy on the melodrama, everyone.

I am with most of you in that I seriously hope it's not Fassel, but I'd still rather have him than spagnulo.

Hopefully, for everyone's sake, Mariucci will be the man.

Anything from his people recently??

Posted by: redskins91 | February 7, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

"Billionaire = expensive toys = heartache for those that support the toy" by Stevida

Can't be true enough.

Posted by: hardhitter | February 7, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

F Snyder!

F Vinny!

F Fossil!

Posted by: tafka | February 7, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

All I hear now is circus music. I see the Snyderrato dancing in a circle...

Posted by: Skins__Stons | February 7, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

>>> "he has no personality."

Should they hire Jerry Glanville? Man, that would be entertaining. I'd have to buy several ball peen hammers.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 7, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Wow, this has become an amazing joke.

Don't forget that Ron Meeks is still out there. Wonder if he gets another interview/torture session out at the Mansion?

Posted by: acoberst | February 7, 2008 12:12 PM

Let's hope. Grimm hasn't been interviewed at all. What's the chance of that happening. Slim to none I'm guessing but a man can still dream until the bell tolls.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 7, 2008 12:14 PM | Report abuse

Meh. It doesn't much matter to me since the real screw-up occurred when Snyder couldn't stomach Williams as HC. Everything since then is just damage control.

That said, I think Fassel would provide better immediate returns. I'm not sold on a position coach with one year as a coordinator having the best DL in the league carry him being able to handle all of the administrative duties that come with being a head coach.

Posted by: bobzmuda | February 7, 2008 12:14 PM | Report abuse

"Why do people hate Fassel so much? Didn't he win a Super Bowl?"
Posted by: rickyroge | February 7, 2008 12:08 PM

Ricky, Fassel got the G-men to the show, so kudos. They then preceded to get STOMPED by the Ravens 45-16 or something to that effect. This is the same Ravens that were lucky to put up 15 points that season.

Thats a great reason not to want him in my book...

Posted by: scotchirishprince | February 7, 2008 12:14 PM | Report abuse

My sources tell me Mitt will drop out of the race today at CPAC.

Bang!

Posted by: barno | February 7, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

>>> "Wow. Easy on the melodrama, everyone."

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Easy on the voice of reason, my friend. Rational thought has no place up here. This is a mob, I suggest just going with the flow. It's easier for everyone. Don't be a hero.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 7, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

I look forward to the day that Danny-boy stops playing fantasy football with our team (it was OURS before it was his, after all...) and does the right thing for the team for a change.

Hoping for Mooch, but expecting Fossil, and four more years of mediocrity and rebuilding...

Posted by: gr8day4bsbll | February 7, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Ok ok everyone I figured it out, Snyder is hiring the weakest possible candidate so it will make sense next year to fire them and hire Bill "The Jaw" Cowher. WOOOT!

Posted by: mofass79 | February 7, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Why do you think it was spags that turned the skins down, maybe snyder didn't feel he was ready, Let face it, we all know that if danny really wanted spags he would have giving him so much money he couldn't have said no. They said spags left and that the skins didn't offer him a contract.

Posted by: drumer1972 | February 7, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

I HAVE THE ANSWER!!!

The next coaching candiate and big suprise splash for VinDan will be...

Charlie Weis!!!

Ohhh give me back that bottle.. it is 5 somewhere in the world

Posted by: Stevida | February 7, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Why do people hate Fassel so much? Didn't he win a Super Bowl? Since it's not Greg Williams or some hot young assistant then it's a bad hire? C'mon people...let it play out!

You'd have crucified Greg Williams after 0-1...stop pretending he was the savior. I wanted him to but damn!

Posted by: rickyroge | February 7, 2008 12:08 PM

uh...no ricky, jim fassel did not win a super bowl. he took a team in his first year as giants head coach that he didn't build to the SB, lost...then soundly fell into mediocrity.

Posted by: songsofpraise | February 7, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse

It's sad when a first year coordinator turns down what was once the marqee coaching job in the NFL. These are dark days for skins nation!!!

Boycott Synder and his idiocy!!

Posted by: skinsfan7 | February 7, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse

There is no room on this blog for reason, logic, or ANY rational thought. Panic People, the SKY IS FALLING!!!!

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 7, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

fassel claus is coming to town!

Posted by: djwinborne | February 7, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

YES!!!! We want him to stay with us!!!

Posted by: alize8769 | February 7, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Ok, Spags is out. Not so bad people...he is a 1st year Def Coord who rode a hot team to a nice pay bump from the Giants. Good for him and his family. He was not the answer. I say we give Meeks a shot. He is ripe to be a head coach and the upside is unlimited. We also have the coaching staff all set, so we need a guy like him who will go with the flow at least this year (2008).

Posted by: Bob2770 | February 7, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

since when did this place turn in to 'Lord of the Flies Insider'

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 7, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

whatever the Giants brass told spags about Snyder/Cerrato beforehand, he verified in person. shocker,huh!

if snyder hires fassel, get ready for 1/2 empty Fedex, starting with the first game, and by the end of the season, completely empty.

hiring fassel is a complete slap in the face.

Posted by: tbarz1 | February 7, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

>>> "it will make sense next year to fire them and hire Bill "The Jaw" Cowher"

I believe that this would have been the case no matter who he hired. Remember, no assistant coach (save, perhaps, Zorn or Blache) have more than a 2 year deal remaining. It would be easy for "Mr." Snyder to clean house next year or the year after.

All NFL jobs have an inordinate amount of pressure associated with them, and NFL head coaches bear a ton of that pressure on their shoulders. Add the Snyder Factor to the equation, and, well, that's a lot of pressure. Even barno would crack.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 7, 2008 12:22 PM | Report abuse

I'm sickened by this.. I hope Synder enjoys pissing off the fan base of the REDSKINS again. He may own the team, but he isn't the team. We don't want this guy to be our coach.

Posted by: legelsegel | February 7, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

rickyrouge, please come correct Fassel not only didnt win a SB he got crushed by Trent Dilfer in one of the most unwatchable SBs of all time...

But at this point whateves...what will be will be with the Snyderskins...just have to accept it like death, taxes, and Barno.....

When wil the vindanity end? Not in our lifetime!

Posted by: chrislarry | February 7, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

*ZOINKS!*

Posted by: linroy62 | February 7, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
God I hope they got this wrong and it's anybody but Fossil. And we were having such a good week with the whole HOF thing.

With Fossil the 'skins are gonna be FUBAR.

Posted by: kickinblonde | February 7, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

>>> "a first year coordinator turns down what was once the marqee coaching job in the NFL"

We do NOT know this for a fact. Spags may well have not been offered the job at all. I'm all for bashing "Mr." Snyder. He is, after all, an arrogant jerk who treats his people (both at Snyder Communications and the Redskins) like dirt. He is a horrible manager and a worse executive, and his track record of success proves that out.

BUT we do NOT know if anyone other than Jim Mora, Jr. has declined to be considered, and even then we now know there were extenuating circumstances behind Mora's decision to withdraw.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 7, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps we could use the peening head to "work" Fassel by such methods until he loses all of his ductile characteristics and becomes strong but brittle.

Posted by: WrongDog | February 7, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

The main problem with this franchise is that everyone wants to have their cake and eat it to. This team will not be better without 2-3 years of rebuilding from the ground up - through the draft.

Instead, we perpetually try to argue that we are just one or two missing pieces away from being a real contender... so instead of sinking the ship and building a new one, we are just mopping the decks of the titanic. Fassel will just continue this trend.

Unless Snyder is willing to destroy everything and build from scratch and accept several consecutive seasons with less than 5 wins, this franchise will never turn the corner and be a contender.

Posted by: SETH.LEMASTER | February 7, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

YNOT Russ GRIMM!

Posted by: LongTimeSkinsFan | February 7, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

I WILL SAY IT ON THIS POST AS WELL.

F Fa'Sul,

F Snyder,

F all the posters who like either!!

You think George Allen, who, besides Gibbs, is the greatest of great Redskin's icons, would want a Giant coaching the 'Skins? Fa'Sul is a hack...a has-been...a failed offensive coordinator. And, for all you "he was NFL Coach of the Year" F YOU ALL!

Here are some coaches of year.

1989 Lindy Infante (NFC) 36-60
1991 Wayne Fontes (NFC) 67-71
1994 Dave Wannstedt (NFC) 82-87
1995 Ray Rhodes (NFC) 37-42-1
1996 Dom Capers (NFC) 48-80
2000 Jim Haslett (NFL) 45-51
2001 Dick Jauron (NFL) 36-49

Combined record? 351-440-1

That is a .443 winning percentage. You want Fa'Sul, listen to Westwood One. You want Snyder, eat at Johnny Rockets and ride Superman Tower of Power @ Six Flags (where that poor girl lost her feet). Leave the 'Skins alone, and hire some F-ing football people. Look at who was up for the Hall of Fame? Jacoby, Grimm, Monk and Green. Who drafted Grimm, Monk and Green and signed Jacoby as a RFA? B. Beathard. Who screwed Beathard after trying to resign him? Napoleon Un-Dynamite. Who has screwed the 'Skins since 1999 and will do so well into the 21st-century? You got it.

Posted by: duh2mag | February 7, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

"Don't panic we know what we're doing, we have a plan..." V. Ceratto

I'm not panicing. In fact, I know Snyder has another card up his sleve. And, you guessed it.. Bobby Knight! He's available right Danny?

Posted by: jeffjwb | February 7, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Why do you think it was spags that turned the skins down, maybe snyder didn't feel he was ready, Let face it, we all know that if danny really wanted spags he would have giving him so much money he couldn't have said no. They said spags left and that the skins didn't offer him a contract.

Posted by: drumer1972 | February 7, 2008 12:16 PM

You're mistaking the new Snyder for the old Snyder. The new Snyder must practice his "due dilligence", and thus will refuse to offer any candidates the job until he has scoured the earth and interviewed all current NFL assistants, out-of-work former NFL employees, NFL analysts, writers, and life-long fans before making his decision. It's a good thing that every possible candidate is completely desperate for a job and has no other options available, and thus will come running as soon as Dan phones them in.

Posted by: psps23 | February 7, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

I just do not see the fascination with candidates like Fassel and mariuchi who have been lucky to field a .500 win % At least take a chance with a proven good assistant (Russ Grimm). I would rather take a risk on someone like Grimm (or Spagnoula) than be guaranteed a middle of the pack finish.

Posted by: jbrooks | February 7, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

The search for a HC continues and what the skins are left with are the scraps that every other team has thrown to the gutter. No coach in his right mind would want to coach for the little Napoleon and his boy Cato cerrato! These are dark days for skins nations!

Boycott Synder and his avarice!!

Posted by: skinsfan7 | February 7, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

I knew Spagz would never take this job, I didn't even hope. He leveraged the HJ from vindanity into a fresh contract...well played sir!

Posted by: chrislarry | February 7, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

It doesn't matter who coaches as long as Dan has the team.

Fassel is fine. The results will be the same
no matter who we bring in so who cares.

At least Fassel has some experience.

Posted by: soc22210 | February 7, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

It's simple, Dan Snider is a loser!

Posted by: jonacameronsr | February 7, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Everyone get off Fassel's back he was 31-19 vs the NFC East while he was the giants coach that is 62% so how many of you would complain about himgoing 4-2 vs the NFC east every year. II think that's pretty good. As for his time in baltimore you can't hold that against him. How many of you on here complained about gibbs conservative style hampering Al Saunders offense well rthe same thing happend with fassel in baltimore billick handcuffed him. I wanted GG like everyone else but I am a skins fan till the end and how bout we give fassel a shot before we throw him under the bus.

Posted by: murraysdaman10 | February 7, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

I think barno is that hack Larry Michael, coming here to protect the (little) integrity of Dan Snyder against the mostly warranted attacks from the Redskins beat reporters.

Anyway, Fassel would be awful. He inspires zero confidence. Go with Mooch or Meeks. Snyder never should've let Grilliams walk. That's the move that will bite him in the butt.

Posted by: CDon | February 7, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Pick a bridge and plan your jumps. Feel free to double or even triple up, plenty of 'em around.


Posted by: Megskin | February 7, 2008 11:58 AM

Ahem, will those of you preparing to jump please do so after rush hour? It really fs things up otherwise.

Posted by: kickinblonde | February 7, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

It's nice to see someone "play" Snyder for a change. I'm betting Antonio Pierce let Spag know what a f'ed up organization the Redskins have now reverted to and Spags used the interview process to get a huge contract increase from the Giants.
Fassell sucks!!!!

Posted by: pd2710 | February 7, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Welcome back to the era of 1993 - 2003. Feels so GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: richie_sheppard | February 7, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse


This Redskins Head Coach "Process" is like a ride at Six Flags:

1. Free ride on private jet
2. Sleep in a mansion with a beautiful clear view of the Potomac River (no trees)
3. Eat, Drink, and smoke cigars
4. Have butterflies caused by suspense
5. Go home and ask yourself "That was it?"

Posted by: the_squire | February 7, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone else noticed that the once great franchises of the NFL (redskins, dolphins, bills, chiefs, raiders, 49ers) have completely fallen by the wayside while eternal losers/laughing-stocks (Patriots, Chargers, Seahawks) are now some of the premiere franchises?

Posted by: scotchirishprince | February 7, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: hardhitter | February 7, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Oh man. Snyder and Vinny have turned this once great franchise into the laughing stock of the NFL. Neither of the two have a clue as to what they're doing. I am ashamed to be a Redskins fan right now.

Posted by: admir81 | February 7, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

hardhitter, please don't be irritating.

Posted by: SETH.LEMASTER | February 7, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Spags is a lot smarter than maybe some people gave him credit for.
This team is headed nowhere fast. Couldn't happen to a nicer owner.

Posted by: ken_berlin | February 7, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

I have never been so humiliated/embarrassed to be a Redskins fan! And Fassel would just be the absolute worse choice! Only Russ Grimm would save the day for me!

Posted by: frank_digiovine | February 7, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse


Spags to Snyder:

"You got served....biotch"

Posted by: the_squire | February 7, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Yea, what you guys really need is a new owner. No coach will ever succeed under "Chainsaw Dan".

Posted by: dwood31 | February 7, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

The only positive in all this is at least Snyder is taking his time and taking this coaching search seriously and methodically. On that count, this certainly appears to be the best coaching search he has conducted.

Of course, it remains true that Snyder should not be involved in the process at all. Jerry Jones was a player, and has been a football guy all his life. Snyder is just a rich fan who has no technical understanding of the game or personal experience of the game whatsoever.

If Vinny the the new Executive of Football Operations, shouldn't Vinny be taking the lead on the coaching search, then bringing his choice to Snyder for approval?

Posted by: mirf59 | February 7, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Let me see. Assistants already hired, a couple of old Gibbs coaches still on the payroll, an aging O-Line, no big draft picks, big time cap problems, a bobbing head VP and a meddling owner who just wants to be part of the action. Sounds like a sweet deal to me. Who wouldn't want that.

Posted by: bfjam | February 7, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

This is all hilarious. Eli/Coughlin this time last year? Right, both on the way out. Now? Genius. Bottom line is you need players and talent. With that D- Front line you look good. Let Blache have a crack at that front with the depth etc. Let us have a Moss/Burress jump ball receiver with Campbells arm. Its players folks. They make coaches look like geniuses...

Posted by: csquaredskins | February 7, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

redskins radio saying rogers will be ready for the season and rocky has a good chance too.

Posted by: lsoyka | February 7, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

this is worse than norv. at least norv had some sort of track record as a coordinator. fassel has stunk on every level. that one super bowl team was a complete fluke. the dirty bird falcons were less of a fluke than those giants.

Posted by: epdaly | February 7, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Spagnuolo musy have read Sally Jenkins' article!

Posted by: bandg1fan-mcl | February 7, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Meeks or bust. No retreads!

Posted by: drischord | February 7, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse


Has anyone else noticed that the once great franchises of the NFL (redskins, dolphins, bills, chiefs, raiders, 49ers) have completely fallen by the wayside while eternal losers/laughing-stocks (Patriots, Chargers, Seahawks) are now some of the premiere franchises?

Posted by: scotchirishprince | February 7, 2008 12:31 PM


You know the difference?? Scott Pioli, AJ Smith and Tim Ruskell...that's who.

Posted by: hardhitter | February 7, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

I believe your right. As long as Snyder had the team it's always gonna be like this

Posted by: jlimler | February 7, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

what a train wreck this has turned into. as i am listening to these snyder hacks like larry michaels spinning this, i find myself longing for the bad old days of norval turner.

Posted by: mdoughtie | February 7, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

uh...no ricky, jim fassel did not win a super bowl. he took a team in his first year as giants head coach that he didn't build to the SB, lost...then soundly fell into mediocrity.

Posted by: songsofpraise | February 7, 2008 12:19 PM

Actually, Fassel took the Giants to the playoffs in his first year and was named NFL Coach of the Year. He took the 2000 Giants to the Super Bowl, 3 years after he was hired so I'm pretty sure he helped build that team.

That said, he doesn't excite me too much either...but then again, none of the candidates really do at this point.

Posted by: sean.reese | February 7, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Boycott the little Napoleon! Stop subsidizing this idiocy and let's implement a fan strike! Skins might be Synder's team but the fans also have a stake in this as well. As long as Synder is blind to this fact the idiocy will continue.

Continue to support the skins by watching the games on TV but don't renew your season tickets and don't purchase skins merchandise or support any of Synder's enterprises including six flags, cruise movies, redskins tv, redskins radio, redskins.com, etc etc

Posted by: skinsfan7 | February 7, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

My Guess is that he never planned to take the HC job but use it as a bargaining chip for a renegotiated contract in NY. Can't blame the man...just sucks balls for us.

Posted by: bryanlowers | February 7, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Spags is a wise man. He must've read Sallys column this morning. Snyder might as well coach the team himself at this point, because no decent coach is going to want to work for him.

Posted by: harrelsonw | February 7, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Also I am a huge Gibbs fan but Fassel finished 1st in the NFC East twice in his first 4 years and in the top 2 of the division 4 out of his 7 years in New York. In four years how many first place finishes did Gibbs have? none How many second place finishes? 1 how many last place finishes? 2 How many last place finishes for Fassel? 1 in seven years as coach. I think the numbers speak for themselves Fassel never won a super bowl like Gibbs but he is not that bad. Even his last season in New York he lost a lot of players and even the players thought he took the blame when it wasn't his fault

Posted by: murraysdaman10 | February 7, 2008 12:38 PM | Report abuse

>>> "it will make sense next year to fire them and hire Bill "The Jaw" Cowher"

I believe that this would have been the case no matter who he hired. Remember, no assistant coach (save, perhaps, Zorn or Blache) have more than a 2 year deal remaining. It would be easy for "Mr." Snyder to clean house next year or the year after.

All NFL jobs have an inordinate amount of pressure associated with them, and NFL head coaches bear a ton of that pressure on their shoulders. Add the Snyder Factor to the equation, and, well, that's a lot of pressure. Even barno would crack.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 7, 2008 12:22 PM

It's amusing to read comments like these. It's just amazing to see that some people actually believe that Dan Snyder has spent all of this time, countless hours over the past month, putting all these pieces together on his coaching staff, interviewing countless candidates and advisers into the wee hours of the night, then re-interviewing many of them--some as many as 4 times--all so he can break it all up a year from now. Yeah, I'm sure that's his plan. You've figured him out, Puffy.

Like I said...there are some intellectual lightweights among us.

Posted by: barno | February 7, 2008 12:38 PM | Report abuse

>>> "redskins radio saying rogers will be ready for the season and rocky has a good chance too."

This is good news, but history has proven that it takes one additional year of playing for a player to fully come back from a torn knee ligament.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 7, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

The only positive in all this is at least Snyder is taking his time and taking this coaching search seriously and methodically.

Posted by: mirf59 | February 7, 2008 12:33 PM

Am I the only one who thinks this has gone beyond the point of methodical and careful. HE hasn't narrowed his search, the candidates have narrowed it for him. They're leaving him in the dust. First Mora, then GW, now Spags. At some point you have to make a decision. All we're left with is are three coaches with no interest from any other franchises, two of which aren't even employed as coaches right now, and one of which who can't find a job at all. How is this coaching search encouraging at all?

Posted by: psps23 | February 7, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Why does everyone speak of Grimm as if he has "credintials" to be a good head coach? he doesn't. He was a good player and thats it. He might be a good HC some day, but we have no evidence of that fact.

Posted by: SETH.LEMASTER | February 7, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Smart move by Spagnuolo. I would never want to work for Snyder, situation is better in NY anyways..coming here he'd have to win over the majority of the players since everyone wanted Gregg Williams. and for a rookie coach that'll be tough to do. I guess Fassel is our man now..haaa Good luck because you'll need it

Posted by: ttn703 | February 7, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Sorry to hear Spagnuolo is out of the running. I think he would have been a good choice. I'm not that excited about the possibility of Fassel becoming the Redskins' next coach, but if he gets the nod i'll be willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. He did have a lot of success in his last head coaching stint, and he knows the NFC East. Going back to the hindsight annointment of the Giants as the model franchise, how many New York reporters and fans were stoked when Coughlin wasn't fired last year and was given an extension? I personally loved it, thinking that the Giants had chained themselves to a horrible coach for at least another season. Not a lot of people knocking Coughlin now.

Posted by: billyrich | February 7, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

F Fossil!

Posted by: tafka | February 7, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Excellent....so we waited two weeks for Spags and his wife Carrot Top, and now we are gonna settle for a coach that nobody else in the league wants......excellent.

I hope hope hope that I look back in disbelief that I was down on Fa'Sul.....but I dont think so.

BONG

Posted by: saltynuts | February 7, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

I used to be a Snyder defender...it is becoming nearly impossible now though...He was a mensch for Sean Taylor, as he should have been. But at this point, if we go with Fassel, it feels like a step backwards and a lack of consideration for the fanbase. Who has ever heard of a team hiring an OC and a DC and still searching for a coach. As a Skins fan living in NYC it becomes even harder to take the sad daily updates on this floundering search...

Posted by: sloopy | February 7, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Hey since Snyder F#CKED it all up again, how bout we ask Brunnel to run the team. LOL God help us this year.. I dont want fassel. I cant stand to look at him. damnit. We need Grimm. At least he is a Skin by heart

Posted by: tbonetucci | February 7, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

barno, I can assure you, I am not an intellectual lightweight.

I stand by my assertion. If Fassel goes 8-8 or worse, this thing will get blown up again. If he wins the Super Bowl, I have some organic ketchup for you.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 7, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Man I would pay top dollar to witness a live intellectual debate between Barno and Pdiddy. ..............I love a good azz whupping!

Posted by: chrislarry | February 7, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Spags is not ready for prime time. You don't bet your franchise on him until he's proven a little more than he has.

The Pats lost the Superbowl much more than the Giants won it. They came out heartless and soft. And I think Tom Brady was maybe 70% healthy. He couldn't plant quite right, and all of his throws were short. I give Spags a lot of credit for beating the Pats, but not all of it. I think you'd have seen a moderately similar game out of Dallas (ack) or Green Bay.

I applaud Snyder for taking his time. Hiring in reverse is weird, and I don't understand his motivation, so I won't comment on that. But it seems in the past he's had his one guy in mind, and this time he entered the process with an open mind. He didn't go with conventional wisdom (Williams) and he didn't go with the flavor of the moment (Spag), and for that he gets kudos.

Fassel and Mooch are proven pro coaches. Neither has earned a spot in Canton, but you could make the case for either of them that they have a lot left in the tank, and with a good team, they could be very good coaches. Mora was in that category, too. But he wanted (and got Seattle).

Meeks, Grimm, Schwartz, Spags (and so forth) are unknown. They have more potential (because you haven't seen them lose a ton of NFL games as a HC), but a lot more risk. I only have to point to Norv Turner, hired by the great can-do-no-wrong Jack Kent Cooke. To illustrate this point. If you're rebuilding, sure, why not. If you have a nucleus of strong talent, then I wouldn't gamble that on a novice coach.

Fassel has had some bad breaks. He was fired from NY after a not-so-bad season. Coughlin was about to be fired THIS season. Things turn on a bit of luck (and a Redskin goal line stand).

And I don't count Baltimore for Fassel. Arguing with Brian Billick about offensive ideas has got to be like arguing with Darth Vader about wearing black. The man's going to do what the man's going to do.

I hope we find out soon, though.

Posted by: jvwright | February 7, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

TAKE THAT DANNYBOY!
You've managed to throw away a hell of a coach in Greg Williams. Why?
Because YOU want to control personnell, this, that, and the other.
You're the one who needs to go!

Posted by: bernard.deane | February 7, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Come on! Last time Fassel coached with the Ravens, he was fired by one of his best friends. The Ravens improved immediately after that. The only thing Fassel was considered for, was broadcasting, for radio. He might be the only one wanting to work for Snyder.

Good for Spagnuolo that he took the right decision and will remain with a winning team!

Posted by: verdi1 | February 7, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Can anyone out there check on the jet and see if it is on the way to/from Phoenix?

That will tell us if Fassel is imminent.

Posted by: gdennie | February 7, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

hire the other STEVE , go mooch

Posted by: wingmd | February 7, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

If true may be why it was not Spags:

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2008/02/07/ap4628306.html
WASHINGTON - The Washington Redskins eliminated Steve Spagnuolo on Thursday from their list of candidates to fill their coaching job.

A person familiar with the selection process, speaking to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity, said the New York Giants defensive coordinator and the Redskins agreed he is probably a year or two away from being prepared to become a head coach.

Spagnuolo also felt he could play an important role as the Giants try to repeat as Super Bowl champions...

Posted by: kerzon417 | February 7, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Must have read Sally's column today. Smart man!

Posted by: kbmcwhinney | February 7, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Oh WOWSER!! not again, what the it`s again. It`s getting harder and harder to be a fan of this team, is SNYDER really that DUMB? Really that Stupid of a man. What a Joke. Fassell or whatever = Failure and honestly F that, i`ll be Dallas fan soon, this is insane what Snyder is doing. What a moron.

Posted by: rommi7 | February 7, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone really believe that the Redskins will be any better as long a Snyder owns the team? Nothing in the past eight years would support such a belief. It doesn't matter who he hires, the team will still be mediocre, or worse. Snyder had an opportunity to show he has changed. He could have followed Gibb's recommendations, but he didn't. It's just not in his personality. I'm giving up my tickets. It's just not worth it anymore.

Posted by: dfogleman | February 7, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

The reason "Snyder is taking his time and taking this coaching search seriously and methodically" is because the candidate pool is empty except for the few retreads that other teams have declined to consider. This is the sad state of the redskins organization, once the envy of the league, and the holy grail of coaches everywhere. Under Synder and Cato's oversight we have become the laughingstock of the NFL!

Boycott Synder and his lunacy!!

Posted by: skinsfan7 | February 7, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Um Team JVwright,

Fassel's final season was 4-12 if thats your definition of "not so bad season" than your mentally prepared for the Skins next couple a years...

And the Pats lost the SB? Do you watch Football? The Giants punched them in the mouth repeatedly. Beat em in the trenches. That wins you games.....

In the words of the great Libertine Intellectual Barno....wow...just wow!

Posted by: chrislarry | February 7, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

F Snyder!

F Vinny!

F Fossil!

Posted by: tafka | February 7, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

I knew Spagz would never take this job, I didn't even hope. He leveraged the HJ from vindanity into a fresh contract...well played sir!

Posted by: chrislarry | February 7, 2008 12:28 PM

Post of the day so far. I was hoping against hope but I knew this to be the case all along.


I just removed "redskin radio" from my presets and won't be going to any games next year. Time to put my money where my mouth is and this guy is ruining my team.

/steps off soap box

Posted by: Skinz | February 7, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

If you people think that Bill Cowher is going to walk into this clusterf**k nightmare of a football franchise after being with the Rooney's in Pittsburgh for 15 years.....

Then you had better start lining up for the fantasy rides at 6 flags along with Danny, Tom, Katie, Vinny and all the other vermin who are over there in fantasy land !

Posted by: Davo61 | February 7, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Thats it...... I wanna coach the team. I have 10 years of Madden under my belt and I have watched football for 33 years.

Posted by: porcelainproductions | February 7, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

He did not win a Superbowl..he made it there and choked. Regardless, I do not like Fassel, he has no personality.

Posted by: hardhitter | February 7, 2008 12:11 PM


Well, I would argue that they didn't choke. They went up against one of the toughest Defenses EVER in the Ravens. As far as personality....THAT IS MY POINT !!!

Just because Spags and GW yells and screams and hops up and down while the ball is in the air, doesn't mean they can be a good coach.

DISLAIMER: I am not comparing these HOF coaches to Fassel !!

How much personality did Tom Landry have? I must have forgotten about the laugh a minute pressers that Tony Dungy had? How 'bout Chuck Noll? I always get Chris Rock and Joe Gibbs confused.

This is my argument about politics... just because someone gives a great speech, doesn't means they can be president. ( see Obama ) I hope he does/and is a good president. But don't mistake charisma for excellence.

Posted by: cej75024 | February 7, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

I feel that everything that has happened to this point just undoes everything that the return of Joe Gibbs did for the franchise. It now seems that everything that he helped build over the past 4 years is quickly crumbling. Transitioning to Gregg Williams and Al Saunders was more than likely the logical move that Gibbs would have made if the decision was his. The team was in good hands and would have likely made the playoffs again. However, I believe they will be 6-10 next season under whoever takes over because the powers that be have not grasped what Gibbs attempted to teach them. I hope that I am wrong and will be the first to eat crow if I am but at this point I am ashamed to be a fan of this team as I donot believe that the ones making the big decisions have any clue on how to work with people or to run a team that can win!

Posted by: mottermx | February 7, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Everyone get off Fassel's back he was 31-19 vs the NFC East while he was the giants coach that is 62% so how many of you would complain about himgoing 4-2 vs the NFC east every year. II think that's pretty good. As for his time in baltimore you can't hold that against him. How many of you on here complained about gibbs conservative style hampering Al Saunders offense well rthe same thing happend with fassel in baltimore billick handcuffed him. I wanted GG like everyone else but I am a skins fan till the end and how bout we give fassel a shot before we throw him under the bus.

Posted by: murraysdaman10 | February 7, 2008 12:29 PM

Very well put. Please don't be a one-time poster (forgive me if you've written on here before, I don't read all the comments). Please come back, this board desperately needs people like you!!!

Posted by: barno | February 7, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Just imagine where we would be if Gibbs had fulfilled his contract and we weren't looking for a HC until next year....

Continuity leading up to Cowher.... it would have been a beautiful thing.

Posted by: SETH.LEMASTER | February 7, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

They fired Spags already????

Posted by: pat5387 | February 7, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

HA. So Spags agreed that he is a year or two away?

And who wants to bet Snyder and his bug eyed puppet ate that up as Spags dated his new, inflated, contract with the Giants due to his 2-day stay with Napolean?

Anyone who couldn't see this coming should be committed...

Heck, maybe we all need to be committed when it's realized that Napolean/Vinny/Fassel are running our favorite team.

Posted by: RickyBobby | February 7, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Karma will bit you in the a**. Danny's getting his now after treating so many people like crap.

Make no mistake, the word's out about the Danny and Vinny show. Two inept individuals who know none of what they actually think they do.

There's no coaches beating down the Skins' door to work for him.

He's getting exactly what he deserves.

Posted by: SavedByZero | February 7, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

I'm with skinsfan7, no more of my hard earned cash is going into that chump's pockets, no matter who He hires as HC. The reason he's made so much money off the Redskins franchise is NOT because he's a business genius, but that he happens to own a team with a large DIE-HARD fan base which sits in the nation's most affluent metropolitan area. You think he'd pulling the kind of bills he does now if he owned, say the Lions? The Redskins are a cash cow with a large, wealthy, loyaly fan base....and this "HC search" has been the watershed moment that has begung to significantly erode that loyal fan base. I love the Redskins, but as long as he owns the franchise I'll be watching the games on tv, filling my local watering hole's coffers and wearing my old 'Skins gear until it returns to dust.

Posted by: kelly2field | February 7, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

It takes 16 hours of talks for them to mutually agree he is not ready?

Are you kidding me?

What in heaven's name do they talk about for 16 hours?

Does Snyder have some pathological
syndrome in which he can't get to the point quickly?

The questions are unending.

Posted by: gdennie | February 7, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

This was from mul on the previous thread--but it's worth reposting. LMAO:

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"It was the most thorough process I've been involved in in the NFL."

Can we do a new blog insult -

"Thorough" process

That was the most Thorough post I have ever read.

Iraq is the most Thorough war we have ever been in.

Sally is the most Thorough writer I know outside of Willbon.

Posted by: mul | February 7, 2008 03:29 AM

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Posted by: farstriker | February 7, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

I wish I could give up on this team and choose another, but I can't. I will be rooting for them next year even with (choking) fossil as the HC.

We could use some taller buildings in New Mexico!!

Posted by: kerzon417 | February 7, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

redskins radio now pushing for grimm to interview. saying the fans will rally around him.

Posted by: lsoyka | February 7, 2008 12:53 PM | Report abuse

I wanted GG like everyone else but I am a skins fan till the end and how bout we give fassel a shot before we throw him under the bus.

Posted by: murraysdaman10 | February 7, 2008 12:29 PM

AMEN !!!!!!!!!

Posted by: cej75024 | February 7, 2008 12:53 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: RedBee | February 7, 2008 12:53 PM | Report abuse

kerzon417...I agree..."redskins, I can't quit you"

Posted by: chrislarry | February 7, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Let's all go POOP on Dan Snyder, literally.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | February 7, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Looking at the "who's staying/who's going" list from the coaching staff...

They basically got rid of the Space Cowboys (being a consultant is so much fun!), Weird Al (who none of us could stomach anyway), and GG (who was a fan favorite, admittedly).

The rest of the staff has remained more or less intact. So, "Mr." Snyder aims for "continuity" (a concept which I still think is a myth when you change head coaches in the NFL) and replaces a guy he probably hated as much as we did (Weird Al) with a really, really good coach (Zorn). I think he totally screwed up the GG situation, but there was no way he was going to stay as DC after getting passed over, so they elevate another fantastic coach (Blache).

In the end, we're going to get an offense that may be easier for JC to digest and an offensive coordinator who is likely less dogmatic about his system and will alter things to suit the QB's strengths instead of simply scaling things back to protect him.

The defense is in trouble at defensive back and linebacker (age and injuries) and they need to get stronger there. But that defensive line could be really good next season.

It's not as bad as it seems, but who am I to stand in the way of today's vigorous attempt to reach 500K posts by training camp!

Posted by: PDiddy | February 7, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Just imagine where we would be if Gibbs had fulfilled his contract and we weren't looking for a HC until next year....

Continuity leading up to Cowher.... it would have been a beautiful thing.

Posted by: SETH.LEMASTER | February 7, 2008 12:51 PM

SL,

No player/roster control. A front office that is arguably the worst in the league.

Cowher would NEVER touch this job under these circumstances.

Even he did, it would just be Marty II.

Posted by: gdennie | February 7, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

and repeat . . .


Funny how coaches who want to be able to have their players respect them don't really want this job, while coaches who only want a paycheck and the cachet of being a HC in the NFL do . . .

- Let me say that I don't think that applies to Ron Meeks, so I hope to heaven that he gets the job, but history says that is what will disqualify him -

Posted by: RedBee | February 7, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

This is all Joe Gibbs fault, he's not even a man of his word.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | February 7, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Any Redskin fan that wanted Spags to be our coach needs their head examined. This guy caught magic in a bottle at the end of the season. What makes this guy the next great coach? Who wants a stinking Giants coach anyways? Much the same as Norv (a Cowboy) being our coach, sucked!

Mooch is my pick. He's a proven winner and players like him.

Posted by: kapiskosky | February 7, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

I've been posting this for days..

"I still think spags is pulling thee ole "squeeze play" and using the redskins... which everyone does.. can't blame them.. i'd be surprised if he takes a job where he has little control, the staff is already picked, etc.. look for Fassel as the only one who will take the job here (after this half ass way of getting a coach) and danny to say "he was their man all along".. yeah right..

Wow, i'm i surprised he used the redskins to get a better deal.. to bad because I really think he would be a great coach.. and knows the nfc east inside and out..
we all better realize that no good coach wants to be a puppet here..

and I can see it now, danny boy at the podium saying: after an extentive search Fassel came out at the top of our list.. i'm getting my barf bag ready..

Posted by: vpar57 | February 7, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

PLEASE STEP DOWN!!!SNYDER, PLEASE STEP DOWN!!!SNYDER, PLEASE STEP DOWN!!!

Posted by: RedBee | February 7, 2008 12:53 PM

Stop wasting your time, you have a better chance of being struck by lightening, winning the lottery and being elected President of the U.S. all within the next 20 minutes before Danny will step down.

Ain't gonna happen, get ready for Jim Fassel.

Posted by: Davo61 | February 7, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

F Fossil!

Posted by: tafka | February 7, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

I'm writing this post only so I can be one of those "you read it here" j@ck@$$es. Also, because people are posting so fast and furious up here, no one will read this.

Big Media is being played ... the answer is Jim Schwartz. The FIRST guy to be interviewed. They've never stopped talking. It was Schwartz, not Fassel or Mariucci, who said Zorn was the guy. Schwartz is a "Moneyball" guy (per the wikipedias). Sciencey. Young. Late nighter. Local guy.

Anyone remember when Emilio posted Jasno's call-in about other teams asking to interview Saunders and Williams after they got canned? The Rams and the TITANS requested the opportunity to interview Williams. You think Jeff Fisher is going anywhere?

The Owner likes plash. Even though there are no celebrities to hire, the other way to make a plash is "surprise!" When they hired St. Joe, everyone freaked out b/c it was Joe Gibbs. The reason it was a plash was b/c NO ONE SAW IT COMING.

Schwartz will be the guy. Just sayin'

Posted by: dcsween | February 7, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

When you are a coach that has been actively looking for a head coaching job ever since you got fired from your last one (READ: Jim Fassel), and the only team to seriously show interest is the Washington Redskins, then that is a concern.

When you are the last head coach to be fired by the team that just won the Super Bowl (READ: Jim Fassel), and the only team to still show interest in you is the Washington Redskins, then that is disconcerting.

When you are the self-proclaimed offensive genius and "molder of quarterbacks" who was fired from your last head-coaching job AND your last offensive coordinator job (READ: Jim Fassel), and, inexplicably still draw interest from but one team, the Washington Redskins, then that is joke.

Let me see if I understand who the choices are now:

The aforementioned Jim Fassel.

The much-heralded Steve Marriuci (who, aside from getting fired from his last head-coaching job, also lost control of a quality team in San Francisco and was fired there as well).

Ron Meeks. The former assistant coach of the Washington Redskins seeking his first head coaching opportunity.

Tell me again...What was so wrong with Gregg Williams? Oh, yes. I remember. He wouldn't let his name be smeared by the poor spin disseminating from the mouths of Dan Snyder and Vinny (what grown man calls himself Vinny) Cerato.

And as for that one man who longed for Norv Turner:

The Norv Turner-coached San Diego Chargers were in the AFC Championship Game. The Washington Redskins - who made a valiant effort to get into the playoffs twice in the past three years - were at home.

And now, every coach who had responsibility for getting the Redskins to the playoffs, from Joe Gibbs to Gregg Williams to Al Saunders (yes, even Al Saunders), is gone.

Congratulations, Mr. Snyder and Mr. Cerato. You have both done a fantastic job of living up to your promise of "continutity" of Joe Gibbs II.

Bravo. Bravo, gentlemen. And I use that term loosely.

Posted by: ilovewilbon | February 7, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Enough already just name a friggin coach...this is getting downright stupid! If this wasn't the guy, then the choice should've been already to go..I mean how hard is it to say if Spags is not the guy here's our first and best choice for the job and get'er done....

Posted by: papaskynz | February 7, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

I wanted GG like everyone else but I am a skins fan till the end and how bout we give fassel a shot before we throw him under the bus.

Posted by: murraysdaman10 | February 7, 2008 12:29 PM

AMEN !!!!!!!!!

Posted by: cej75024 | February 7, 2008 12:53 PM

Agreed. No throwing Fassel under the bus. It's not Fassel's fault if Snyder chooses him over the other candidates. Can't hate the man for trying.

Doesn't mean that I'm going to like him as my head coach.

F Snyder.

Posted by: psps23 | February 7, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

I'm just upset that we don't have a HC that we can refer to as "Spags". oh well. I think I would like to see what Meeks can do, but I am not holding my breathe.

Cannot quit the 'skins either - hey - the actual players will need us next season - good or bad.

Posted by: suzannepdc | February 7, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

How cool would it be if Fassel, Meeks, Mooch and anyone else said no thanks.

Posted by: truetradition1946-1970 | February 7, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

SNYDER, PLEASE STEP DOWN!!!SNYDER, PLEASE STEP DOWN!!!SNYDER, PLEASE STEP DOWN!!!

Posted by: RedBee | February 7, 2008 12:53 PM

REDBEE, PLEASE STEP DOWN!!! REDBEE, PLEASE STEP DOWN!!! REDBEE, PLEASE STEP DOWN!!!

that was fun

Posted by: barno | February 7, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Sorry to hear that Spagnuolo is out of the running. I think he would have been a good choice. Not that excited about the possibility of Fassel becoming the next coach, although if he gets the nod I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. He had a lot of success in his last head coaching stint, and he knows the NFC East. As for the hindsight annointment of the Giants as the model franchise, how many New York reporters and fans were stoked when Coughlin wasn't fired at the end of last year and was given a contract extension? I personally was ecstatic about it, as I thought the Giants were getting saddled with a horrible coach for another year. Not too many people are knocking Coughlin now.

Posted by: billyrich | February 7, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

What if, Danny-boy said "screw it" and proclaimed himself to be headcoach?

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | February 7, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

I wanted GG like everyone else but I am a skins fan till the end and how bout we give fassel a shot before we throw him under the bus.

Posted by: murraysdaman10 | February 7, 2008 12:29 PM

F Fossil!

If he wants a job so badly, let him drive a bus.

Posted by: tafka | February 7, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

I just do not see the fascination with candidates like Fassel and mariuchi who have been lucky to field a .500 win % At least take a chance with a proven good assistant (Russ Grimm). I would rather take a risk on someone like Grimm (or Spagnoula) than be guaranteed a middle of the pack finish.

Remember Gibbs was an assistant at San Diego and Cook's second choice when he came to Washington. Give R. Grimm a chance but he must have the same power over the team that Gibbs had last year. That is the problem. Danny boy wants to make decisions and not get laughed at by the real coaches.

Posted by: warnerr | February 7, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

For the ham-handed way this has been hadnled I believe the boy should move the team to Los Angeles to fit his personality and etiquette for dealing with people.

Posted by: truetradition1946-1970 | February 7, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

BARNO, LICK MY TAINT!!! BARNO, LICK MY TAINT!!! BARNO, LICK MY TAINT!!! BARNO, LICK MY TAINT!!! BARNO, LICK MY TAINT!!! BARNO, LICK MY TAINT!!! BARNO, LICK MY TAINT!!! BARNO, LICK MY TAINT!!!

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | February 7, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

NOOOOOO!!! WHY?!?!?!? I don't want another rebuilding year! Well, here comes Fassel, great... well, lets start hoping for Cowher in 09! Maybe he'll be here for a year to wait out Cowher?! Hey, we can always hope... so in the mean time lets just throw away some draft picks, and pick up an expensive free agent on his way out, that would be the par for the course.

Posted by: theblackman96 | February 7, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Think Meeks.

Posted by: skinfanman | February 7, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Psychiatrists all over DC are smiling right now.

Posted by: thusler | February 7, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Serious question - if you were Fassell would you want the job? Okay, I realize that there are only 32 of these out there, but what to do you/how do you handle all of this incredibly negative reaction about you? It's not like people are split - 95% of the reaction is very, very negative - think it takes some balls (or perhaps some arrogance) to come on in under these conditions.

And if thing re: Spags not being ready is true - good for him for recognizing where he is professionally.

Posted by: suzannepdc | February 7, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

I guess Spags decided he didn't want to drink Little Danny Snyder's wine from a coke can a-la Michael Jackson. No worries though, I am sure that Vinny Cerrato came through and serviced Little Danny Snyder's useless genitals to help ease the pain.

Posted by: VeloStrummer | February 7, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Mooch is my pick. He's a proven winner and players like him.

Posted by: kapiskosky | February 7, 2008 12:56 PM

There are guys in a town called Detroit that might disagree with your statement.

Mooch was the steward of a team that dominated the NFL in the 80's and early 90's and declined under him as it got older. He then bombed out in Detroit.

His claim to fame was that Brett Favre played well under him. Hardly unique in that regard.

Posted by: Skinz | February 7, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

One thing is clear:
F Fassel!!!!!!!!

Posted by: pat5387 | February 7, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: dcsween | February 7, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Romney to quit today is on the Wash Post front page as of 12:50. Score one for Barno.

Posted by: lsoyka | February 7, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

How cool would it be if Fassel, Meeks, Mooch and anyone else said no thanks.

Posted by: truetradition1946-1970 | February 7, 2008 12:59 PM

Hahaha As big of a skins fan as i am, i would actually be extremely delighted and satisfied to see that happen. Snyder and his dumb-ass due diligence deserve it. This isn't rocket science, you only have a handful of options to decide between. You're a businessman, you're supposed to be decisive.

Posted by: psps23 | February 7, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Serious question - if you were Fassell would you want the job? Okay, I realize that there are only 32 of these out there, but what to do you/how do you handle all of this incredibly negative reaction about you?

Posted by: suzannepdc | February 7, 2008 01:04 PM

You win games. Hatred quickly turns to adulation if you win.

And no matter how loved you are, if you lose, adulation turns to hatred. If Spanuolo or Cowher took the job, then went 5-11, this blog would be bemoaning the fact that Snyder didn't pick Fassell.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 7, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Not to state the obvious, but I have come to the conclusion that Danny's interview "Process" is actually working in reverse.

It's really not Danny and Vinny interviewing potential coaches, it's potential coaches interviewing Danny and Vinny. And no one's buying what they're selling, not Al, not GW, not Carroll, not Cowher, not Mooch, not Meeks, not etc etc etc......

Work with me on this. Maybe Danny's meeting with Jerry Jones was so Jerry could tell Danny that he should seize the opportunity, put on the headset and stand on the sidelines and run the team himself!
Jerry sure acts like he wants to in Dallas.....

It will be interesting to see if Fassel is really serious about entering the world of Dannydom....

Posted by: Skinzfan2 | February 7, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse


Everyone get off Fassel's back he was 31-19 vs the NFC East while he was the giants coach that is 62% so how many of you would complain about himgoing 4-2 vs the NFC east every year. II think that's pretty good. As for his time in baltimore you can't hold that against him. How many of you on here complained about gibbs conservative style hampering Al Saunders offense well rthe same thing happend with fassel in baltimore billick handcuffed him. I wanted GG like everyone else but I am a skins fan till the end and how bout we give fassel a shot before we throw him under the bus.

Posted by: murraysdaman10 | February 7, 2008 12:29 PM

Very well put. Please don't be a one-time poster (forgive me if you've written on here before, I don't read all the comments). Please come back, this board desperately needs people like you!!!

Posted by: barno | February 7, 2008 12:50 PM

Yeah but Fa'Sul had a stellar 25-33 as the head coach at Utah. Granted, he had 2 1st place seasons in the NFC EAST, but he also had 3 3rd place seasons and 1 4th. He also is 2-3 in the post-season.

According to our friends at Wikipedia, "In 2004 and 2005, Jim and Kitty Fassel owned a Quiznos restaurant in Denville, New Jersey. Their son Brian was in charge of day to day operations. The store was sold in April 2005 but still remains open."

Anyone for some flatbread sammies?

Posted by: duh2mag | February 7, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

*****************BREAKING NEWS***************************

Dan Snyder to announce new coach this afternoon. The Redskins have scheduled a press conference to announce the hiring of their new head coach, L. Ron Hubbard. Press conference will begin at 3 pm.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | February 7, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

CNN is reporting Lou Holtz is being brought in this afternoon to interview with Snyder. It just gets more and more ridiculous.

Posted by: yellow_jacket98 | February 7, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

SHABINGUS!

Posted by: Dorf | February 7, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

All that are left are solid choices..... no ol ball coach or some other crazy half wit ...... Good QB play makes any quality football man a little smarter.... Jason Campbell is our future, he either developes into a franchise QB and our coach and FO look smart, keep stability and be a consistant winner or he doesn't and we continue to lose, be a laughing stock,but I think that leads to the end of Vinny..... I will continue to monitor this situation using 20/20 hindsight and provide the blog with timely updates.....

Posted by: Oldschool | February 7, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Just popped by between presentation sessions (and nursing a hangover from being overserved last night).

Many thanks to Markin21132 for coming down to Annapolis to meet up with me on Tuesday evening. He's a very interesting, fun guy; who knew a Redskin fan could be those things? :)

Thanks 4-12 for suggesting the Boatyard, the beer and food were excellent.

As he had come from the future he was able to tell me the outcome of the current coaching search but I am unable to pass that on as:

7. He made me promise not to.
%. You'd never believe it if I told you.

Sorry to see you guys are still without, but rest-assured you'll have your new person within this quarter!!

Annoyingly yours,
RC

Posted by: Redcoat | February 7, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

who would you rather have..
Fassel or GG ?
Fassel or Mora Jr ?
Fassel or Spags ?
Fassel or Schwartz ?
Fassel or Mooch ?
Then ask yourself why all these other non-Fassels won't come here ?
Wake up Danny !!!!!!!

Posted by: vpar57 | February 7, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

A lot of Mooch calling going on. I'm not calling for mooch, or Fassel. Mooch had 2 good seasons, both with a Hall of Fame quarterback. His other seasons were under .500. Why do you think the 49ers fired him after Steve Young was gone? They didn't see anything in him. I would rather have Mooch than Fassel though. I think Mooch is adaptable and does bring good experience, If he is the type of guy to learn from his mistakes. Meeks, Cowher, or Mooch would satisfy me, all could leave us utterly dissappointed still. Cowher only turned the job down because he wanted personnel control and Danny didn't want to give it to him. Stupid.
As frustrated as I am with Snyder I can't stop being a Redskin. Although I think Snyder is living off of Redskin "Diehards" like me that couldn't stop supporting them if we tried.

Posted by: JMABaxter | February 7, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

I'd still be surprised if he picked Fassel.

Snyder more than anyone else understands you have to sell sizzle. Fassel is unsizzle.

In fact, I think he's included Fassel in process just so everyone will be excited when it's not Fassel.

Posted by: info | February 7, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

I love to see Snyder fail. He deserves all of the bad things that happen to him. Talk about bad "karma". Maybe he could lure Pepper Rodgers to coach after all. I used to root for the Skins but thanks to Snyder I have a new favorite team every week. I just root for the team playing the Snyderman.

Posted by: jekstadium | February 7, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

How cool would it be if Fassel, Meeks, Mooch and anyone else said no thanks.

Posted by: truetradition1946-1970 | February 7, 2008 12:59 PM

then i guess it would be blache eh???

maybe that wouldnt be sooo bad...for continuity sake...

Posted by: deadskin | February 7, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

AP Breaking News: "In his infinite wisdom, Washington Redskins owner Dan Snyder hires Mark Brunell as Head Coach."

Posted by: f_smoot27 | February 7, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Mooch's final season in SF was without Young, and he won the division.

Posted by: info | February 7, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

I am glad Spags is out of the mix for the HC job. I am so angry about how this has played out. If Snyder hires Fassel, then my 55 as a Redskin fan may be over. Snyder has yet again blown up a team on the cusp of being pretty good. And what really tees me off is the Gregg Williams has signed on in Jacksonville. We may never know what the problem between the owner and Williams was. But I suspect it has something to do with the fact that Williams was not going to be a puppet for the owner. Snyder wants someone he and Vinny can manipulate. Everyone can see, as Sally Jenkins said in her latest column, that Snyder is a coach killer. He even killed Joe Gibbs. He really did. I am not big on conspiracy theories, but I wonder if Gibbs left because of Snyder, or at least in part because of that, or maybe he was pushed. Sounds crazy. But nothing about this guy Snyder surprises me. As Jason wrote the other day, Snyder and Vinny leave people by the road. Unbelievable that someone like Snyder could end up owning this franchise.

Posted by: royhobbs56 | February 7, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

I'd still be surprised if he picked Fassel.

Snyder more than anyone else understands you have to sell sizzle. Fassel is unsizzle.

In fact, I think he's included Fassel in process just so everyone will be excited when it's not Fassel.

Posted by: info | February 7, 2008 01:12 PM

sizzle at this point would mean who???

mooch i say...and thats my vote...

Posted by: deadskin | February 7, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

It would have been nuts for Spagnuolo to leave a great organization just won the Super Bowl and to take over HC job of a dysfunctional organization in which every job is filled before head coach even hired, and has no say about personnel and their competence as if running DC school system.

Posted by: chensiqi | February 7, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Wouldn't it be funny if he was set to take the job, and then read Sally's article?

Posted by: info | February 7, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Wouldn't it be funny if Robin Williams were the new coach?

Actually, given Robin Williams' career trajectory of late, maybe not...

Posted by: PDiddy | February 7, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

who will even take this job...
snyder has had three people and counting withdraw their names for consideration now
-mora jr
-williams
-spagnuolo
**will this circus ever end...maybe now he'll have to suck it up and interview russ grimm...

fingers crossed...

Posted by: carsonspence | February 7, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Wonder if Spurrier would be interested in Round 2?!??!

Posted by: bussman24 | February 7, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Wouldn't it be funny of Marcel Marceau were the new head coach?

Actually, he's dead. But if he were alive and the new coach, we'd have the hand signals down pat in case the coach-QB headset stopped working.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 7, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

One more thing. If I were the team's owner, I would give Mooch a chance and more than one year. His selection is the only one that I can think of that would not so antagonize Redskin fans. Meeks might be OK, but I still would go with Mooch.

Posted by: royhobbs56 | February 7, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Spags is a very, very smart man. I believe his stock went up even more by not becoming part of the Snyder Circus. Why would anyone want to work for Snyder. Spags will get his chance with a professional, well-run organization.

Posted by: cyril.p.dubrachek | February 7, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

I suggest we try to setup a system similiar to a lot of European soccer teams, where the fans own a stake of the club. We can buy the majority shares of the Redskins from Snyder, have a say in the structure of the team. We can also fire the GM or personnel director after a set amount of time if they do not perform up to our standards. If we get over 500,000 fans to buy shares ranging in price from $20 to $20,00 we can retake this beloved team, and try to restore to the way it was when the Squire was running things.

Posted by: brandest32 | February 7, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

F Snyder!

F Vinny!

F Fossil!

Posted by: tafka | February 7, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

My sources tell me Mitt will drop out of the race today at CPAC.

Bang!

Posted by: barno | February 7, 2008 12:15 PM


Romney to quit today is on the Wash Post front page as of 12:50. Score one for Barno.

Posted by: lsoyka | February 7, 2008 01:06 PM

Thank you.

Posted by: barno | February 7, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Being a one time poster know nothing rulez
Making sense drulz

Posted by: sams3 | February 7, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

I say again, we do NOT know if Spags withdrew, if he was never offered the job, or if it was a mutual decision. As I said numerous times before, young coaches should take every opportunity afforded them to interview for a head coaching job. It's a job interview process obviously unlike anything we've ever seen (except maybe barno, he knows everything). And interviewing with a little dynamo like "Mr." Snyder has to be great preparation for when your time HAS come.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 7, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

maybe snyder will appoint a head coach by committee idea...when faced with decisions...blache, zorn, and ceratto all vote...best two out of three wins...

how much sense does that make...well, look at our owner...

Posted by: carsonspence | February 7, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

redskins radio saying rogers will be ready for the season and rocky has a good chance too.

Posted by: lsoyka | February 7, 2008 12:34 PM

Unfortunately, it was a referance to George Rogers and Rocky Balboa.

Posted by: InRealAmerica | February 7, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

As far as I know, Brian Billick is still available. Remember, you heard it here first. :)

Posted by: MyPostID8 | February 7, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

It's amazing how dumb a person can be while making so much money.

Snyder is a nightmare for Redskins' fans.

Posted by: fufighter2121 | February 7, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

What is Richie Kotite doing these days? How about bringing him in for one of 'dem 15 hour interviews?

Posted by: vmrg1974 | February 7, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

I think Mr Gibbs back to coach Redskins was a waste of time.He knows it, even though, it seems like he stabilize things, really he tried, but SNYDER is a DESTROYER. Nothing is really achieved, Absolutely big FAT ( Zero O).I see tis organization going down the DRAIN.. Anyone know of LIVERPOOL FC in England? the Fans R trying to Buy out the Club from the Current Owner, WHY Can`t we do that with the REDSKINS? Let`s Buy and take away REDSKINS From SNYDER b4 he destroy it, he`s a DESTROYER. We need to create a site, get names and contribute $$ and BUY OUT the team we love, this is a TV show that SNYDER plays in, produce and direct, this is BAD BAD BAD show to watch.This team nees help and only FANS can do it.

Posted by: rommi7 | February 7, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

I'd sign Rocky Balboa in a heartbeat. And that Rudy guy from Notre Dame. Oh, and Marky Mark from that Iggles movie. And we'd get the "Friday Night Lighs" coach (from the TV show, not the movie or book). I'm sure my little team of Hollywood tough guys could take on the big bad NFC East.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 7, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

I'm with skinsfan7, no more of my hard earned cash is going into that chump's pockets, no matter who He hires as HC. The reason he's made so much money off the Redskins franchise is NOT because he's a business genius, but that he happens to own a team with a large DIE-HARD fan base which sits in the nation's most affluent metropolitan area. You think he'd pulling the kind of bills he does now if he owned, say the Lions? The Redskins are a cash cow with a large, wealthy, loyaly fan base....and this "HC search" has been the watershed moment that has begung to significantly erode that loyal fan base. I love the Redskins, but as long as he owns the franchise I'll be watching the games on tv, filling my local watering hole's coffers and wearing my old 'Skins gear until it returns to dust.

Posted by: kelly2field | February 7, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

***SNYDER HIRES FASSEL***

According the the AP FASSEL was the only canidate that was willing to lick Snyders bung hole on command. Press conference to follow.

Posted by: greg_hughes90 | February 7, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Don Breaux as a mime?

Posted by: tafka | February 7, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Diddy,

It was reported that they came to mutual agreement that Spags was 1 or 2 years from being ready for a HC job. Again I said "reported" who can know for sure.

I think it's more and more likely that the theory of unintended consequences is biting Danny in the arse.

The coaching ranks are now so flushed with cash even at the coordinator level (due in no small part to Danny) that he can't even give away his millions. Well done Danny, you have seen the enemy and he is thee!

Posted by: Skinz | February 7, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Skins fans, it's real simple. As long as people keep buying tickets, luxury boxes, and Redskins paraphernalia, Dan Snyder will continue to do what he has always done. It's called "voting with your wallet." Anyone close to DC should understand that concept.

Posted by: stevesuders | February 7, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Don't forget to sign Wooderson (Matt McConahey) from that "we are marshall" movie.

"alright....alright...alright...party at the moon tower."

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | February 7, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Spagnuolo would not have made a good coach with the Redskins. The right personell is not in place to run his defense which depends on a strong inside rush to allow the ends to get in an disrupt. Something the Redskins have not had since the days of Dave Butz and Grant. With Butz in the middle, no one man could move him. I would have to say between Fassel and Meeks - Meeks is the better of the two. On a seperate note - the Skins need to get a player that can do what Butz did.

Posted by: lvdave | February 7, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

I've just called Roger Goodell and DEMANDED that the Redskins franchise be disbanded and everything Redskins related be stricken from the Record books.
It is the only way.

LOGIC, WILL NOT BE TOLERATED.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 7, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

"Didn't he win a Super Bowl?"

**No. He's the only coach in Giants history to LOSE a Super Bowl, and lost it badly, 34-7, to Baltimore. His last resume entry is getting FIRED from Baltimore as OC.

**8-8 would be a miracle.

Posted by: brad40 | February 7, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Sorry...Rocky Balboa is not available right now. He is tied up, as Rambo, saving the world from terrorists for the foreseeable future.

Posted by: drbatchelor | February 7, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

NO TO FASSELL!!!!!!!!!!


SINGLETARY
GRIMM
MEEKS
DENNY GREEN

Posted by: jamesrice | February 7, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Don't forget to sign Wooderson (Matt McConahey) from that "we are marshall" movie.

"alright....alright...alright...party at the moon tower."

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | February 7, 2008 01:26 PM

That's "Dazed and Confused"

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 7, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Hello Redskins Nation:

I am a new yorker, giants fan through and through and happened to be poking around the Wash Post to see if I could pick up some nuggets on what was happening with our DC Spagnuolo.

First to clear up a few mistakes I noted in some of the posts on this blog:

1. Spagnuolo is not the one who was screaming and intense on the sidelines, that was HC Coughlin. He switched to decaf and is much better now

2. Fassel did not win a Supe for Giants. He took us to the Superbowl after the 2000 season when we got crushed by Ravens 34-7.

3. Fassel's success was moderate with the Giants. He had a few playoff appearances, a few good years and a few awful years. He is a very mediocre coach and in retrospect, I can assert that any success he had came from his good fortune to hire two very good assistant coaches. John Fox was his DC and Sean Payton was his OC. Both have gone on to head coaching positions and good playoff runs with their respective teams. Personally, I disliked Fassel as a coach. He was far more concerned at playing up to the media than coaching his team. He did not develop his young players, exclusively playing the veterans until they got tired or injured and he NEVER was able to fix the special teams. Coughlin fixed our ST the first year he arrived.

4. The one good quality that Fassel has is that he is an OUTSTANDING qb tutor. Read Phil Simms book, he raves about him. This is a quality that you would want in Washington to help your young qb, Jason Campbell develop, but truthfully - I don't know how much time a HC can spend tutoring the qb.

5. Finally, even though Spagnuolo handled himself very well this year and did a great job optimizing the defense, this is his first year as coordinator and he probably needs anoher year or two of experience before he can step into HC position somewhere.

Thanks for listening - sorry for the length of this post.

-hw

Posted by: hershel.wolf | February 7, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

What's all the bother? Snyder is the biggest money-winner in the NFL year after year. Who cares what product he puts on the field?
Spags? Is he a 1-yr wonder w/lots of talent in NY?
Is it Meeks or Dungy in Indi?
Fassel is a retread & that rarely works.
Mooch is another retread nobody else wants.
Williams would've been a retread (remember the Bills under him).
Mora, a retread.
...and there's nobody else out there, right Dan? How about Russ Grimm? A successful coach in 3 stops; Redskins ties to the glory days and Gibbs; what's wrong with talking to him? Ah, I'm ramblin' because it doesn't matter who they hire, until he let's go and let's a real football man run the team (or he sells it), this franchise will be a disaster.
GO RAVENS!!!

Posted by: alanx | February 7, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Correct me if I'm wrong...but didn't Fassel get fired from his last 2 jobs??? The last job he had was at B-More where his BEST FRIEND canned him because they couldn't score...they went 8-1 after he was gone I think...grrrreeeaaattt....I'm going to go throw up now.

Posted by: exp23 | February 7, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

They should at least interview Grimm. This sucks.

Posted by: countystyle | February 7, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Diddy, I'd take the Friday Night Lights coach over Fassel any day of the week. It's been fun guys...go caps.

Posted by: jeffhayes | February 7, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Could it be possible that Spags fell asleep during the late night interview? This may be why he is not ready at this time.

Posted by: kerzon417 | February 7, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

I kinda like Kornheiser's idea of Brian Bilick.

Posted by: mhjhahkh | February 7, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Diddy--Can't forget Keanu in The Replacements...I almost did a spit take when you said Robin Williams earlier...got an image of him at a postgame interview talking about something Snyder said to him and breaking into that Munchkin voice.."We represent the Lollipop Guild.."

Posted by: InRealAmerica | February 7, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Quitting the Redskins is impossible. I tried to become a Chargers fan for 3 weeks a few years back (even bought season tickets which I keep renewing and never use). I can't quit the 'Skins. Not going to happen. More power to you if you can walk away, though. It's like getting out of an abusive relationship.

Besides, these days I'm too old to care passionately for a football team. I know not to idolize professional athletes. I simply root for the uniform out of dutiful reminiscing of my childhood.

And I post on RI because everyone (even that silly barno guy) up here is pretty fun and it's great to hang out with 'Skins fans even though I'm 3,000 miles away from DC.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 7, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

(except maybe barno, he knows everything).

Posted by: PDiddy | February 7, 2008 01:20 PM

Listen Puff Daddy, I have never acted like I know everything. I have often admitted when I have been wrong (see Gregg Williams and Nick Novak) unlike some people, and just because you are an intellectual lightweight, doesn't mean you have to demonstrate it at every turn.

Posted by: barno | February 7, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Snyder doesn't care who he Pi$$es off, even the fans. He bought into a franchise that was built on loyal fans, who are diehard when it comes to supporting "their team". With a season ticket waiting list as long as the Redskins', Danny can afford to pi$$ off fans to the point of giving up on their tickets. He'll just sell them off to the waiting list......NEXT! I'd like to see Danny actually have to be creative by figuring out how to fill the seats in the stadium.

It's kinda sad that former players like Mark Mosley were quoted as saying that "....they (the Redskins organization) were becoming the laughing stock of the NFL. Joe Gibbs came in and turned that around....."

Based on Danny's current actions, we're likely heading that way again.

Think about it....this many coaches can't possibly be determined by Danny and Vinny as the "wrong fit". I still contend that these guys are all walking away because THEY don't like what THEY hear!

Posted by: Skinzfan2 | February 7, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

I think Fassel will be a great coach for the Redskins. Lighten up, everybody!

Posted by: hlef | February 7, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

danny painted himself into a corner by hiring his OC and DC already - only fossil (who is desperate) would be willing to take on a ready made coaching staff

i know i know, phillips did it at dallas but that's cuz he's jj's b-otch (any coach jj hires has to be his b-otch)

Posted by: kickinblonde | February 7, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone else thought it was a coincidence that Mitt Romney dropped out from the running the same day that the star coordinator decides to stay in NYC?

This can mean only one thing....Mitt Romney is going to be the new head coach for the Redskins. How did I reach this stunning conclusion? Two key things they both have in common:
1. The ability to make/raise a lot of money.
2. The inability to win on the big stage and run a promising/hyped up team into the ground.

Obama 2008

Posted by: scotchirishprince | February 7, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Snyder's the John of the NFL. Can't get it for free. Can't get it for affection.

Posted by: live1 | February 7, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

From NFL.COM

Indianapolis Colts defensive coordinator Ron Meeks, former Giants head coach Jim Fassel and former Detroit Lions head coach Steve Mariucci are the three leading contenders to replace Joe Gibbs, who resigned Jan. 8. Snyder has met with all three, and the owner has said he would like to have a coach in place by the end of the week. According to Schefter, Fassel is considered the favorite to get the job.

Posted by: Davo61 | February 7, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Hey Hardhitter,

Tell us how Fassel "choked" the SuperBowl? And do you think Coughlin has personality? I don't think so and he just won a Super Bowl.

Posted by: fearturtle44 | February 7, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Don't forget to sign Wooderson (Matt McConahey) from that "we are marshall" movie.

"alright....alright...alright...party at the moon tower."

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | February 7, 2008 01:26 PM

That's "Dazed and Confused"

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 7, 2008 01:28 PM
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Yeah yah think? But he was a FOOTBALL COACH in the "we are marshall" movie. Hence, the football tie-in.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | February 7, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Oh great, now we have New Yorkers coming up here acting all logical and stuff. Will the madness ever end???

Posted by: PDiddy | February 7, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

What's all the bother? Snyder is the biggest money-winner in the NFL year after year. Who cares what product he puts on the field?
Spags? Is he a 1-yr wonder w/lots of talent in NY?
Is it Meeks or Dungy in Indi?
Fassel is a retread & that rarely works.
Mooch is another retread nobody else wants.
Williams would've been a retread (remember the Bills under him).
Mora, a retread.
...and there's nobody else out there, right Dan? How about Russ Grimm? A successful coach in 3 stops; Redskins ties to the glory days and Gibbs; what's wrong with talking to him? Ah, I'm ramblin' because it doesn't matter who they hire, until he let's go and let's a real football man run the team (or he sells it), this franchise will be a disaster.
GO RAVENS!!!

Posted by: alanx | February 7, 2008 01:28 PM


Even though you're a Ravens fan I think you nailed it with this post. I don't know what more could be said besides what has already been said many times before. Russ Grimm needs to at least be given a look and if he's not considered for the job then rooting for the Redskins under Snyder is officially a lost cause.

Posted by: montybrns9 | February 7, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

MEEKS. That's the man. I can't stomach a former Giant being the coach of the Skins. Plus, didn't Gibbs come out of nowhere to become one of the greatest? Time to take a chance on Meeks. We know what Fassel is about.

Posted by: bharn | February 7, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

MEEKS. That's the man. I can't stomach a former Giant being the coach of the Skins. Plus, didn't Gibbs come out of nowhere to become one of the greatest? Time to take a chance on Meeks. We know what Fassel is about.

Posted by: bharn | February 7, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

This is so dumb. Please spags, please sleep over...I've oodles of snacks and movies and toys. No?! Hi Fassel, do you have your jammies on?

Posted by: jeffhayes | February 7, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

F Snyder!

F Vinny!

F Fossil!

Posted by: tafka | February 7, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

F Snyder!

F Vinny!

F Fossil!

Posted by: tafka | February 7, 2008 12:13 PM


AMEN to that!

Sports Illustrated reporting that Brittney Spears is coming in for an interview

Posted by: SeanTay77 | February 7, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

I say the skins hire BARNO as their headcoach, since he knows all.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | February 7, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

It will be Grimm. Prepare to be stunned. Remember who told you.

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 7, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

The saddest thing about all of this is that we all have VD (Vinny/Dan) and can't get rid of it...

Posted by: countystyle | February 7, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Spagnuolo would not have made a good coach with the Redskins. The right personell is not in place to run his defense which depends on a strong inside rush to allow the ends to get in an disrupt. Something the Redskins have not had since the days of Dave Butz and Grant. With Butz in the middle, no one man could move him. I would have to say between Fassel and Meeks - Meeks is the better of the two. On a seperate note - the Skins need to get a player that can do what Butz did.

Posted by: lvdave | February 7, 2008 01:26 PM

What makes you think our personnel is better for Meeks? He runs a cover-2, which we tried to employ...and were god-awful at it. He had two of the best pass-rushing ends in the game in Indy (Freeney and Mathis), and once again his system would rely on our front 4 to be the harbingers of pressure. That won't work for us unless we can pick up a couple studs in the offseason.

I've just hit rock-bottom. I'm now endorsing no current candidate, and praying that Snyder has something up his sleeve that nobody knows about.

Posted by: psps23 | February 7, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

cej75024 - are you telling me fossil has charisma? You are comparing Gibbs/Landry to Fossil?

Remember.... the season Fossil got fired....his players quit on him. He alienated his players. Is that charisma? He is plain vanilla...that's what he is. Now, I am not spags is the solution. But, we need somebody with some serious cred...not Fossil...man! I hate fossil.

Posted by: hardhitter | February 7, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Snyder is the anti-christ

Posted by: starkcp | February 7, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

PRESS RELEASE:

Ashburn, VA: The Redskins organization is pleased to announce the promotion of Mr. Daniel Synder as the new head coach of the Washington Redskins. Mr. Synder has always aspired to become a head football coach in the NFL and now that every proven candidate has declined to pursue the head coaching vacancey with the Washington Redskins Mr. Synder has decided to fulfill what has been a lifelong dream ever since he started to play Madden 1996.

Mr. Synder has an impressive record of achievement having won the title of Mr. Madden Superstar Coach for the past 10 years and he will be continued to be ably supported by the brillent Mr. Cato Cerrato who most recently was the Junior U.S. National Champion of Fantasy Football 2006.

Redskin fans are thrilled with this promotion and look forward to many more years of mediocrity and ridicule.

Posted by: skinsfan7 | February 7, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

hardhitter, please don't be irritating.

Posted by: SETH.LEMASTER | February 7, 2008 12:32 PM

You know what is irritating? Following the redskins coaching search...that's what is irritating...following Danny...that's what is irritating. Aren't we all here to vent?

Posted by: hardhitter | February 7, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

This is so dumb. Please spags, please sleep over...I've oodles of snacks and movies and toys. No?! Hi Fassel, do you have your jammies on?

Posted by: jeffhayes | February 7, 2008 01:35 PM

Jeff Hayes......I actually still have one of your jerseys. Well, it was originally a Heath Shuler jersey, but I was so disgusted by him I had to go back a few years and assign it to a retired punter. My, o my, the state of my once proud Redskins.

Posted by: drbatchelor | February 7, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

The sad fact is that NONE of these candidates are worth getting excited about...it's 2003 all over again.

Posted by: jeffhayes | February 7, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

People on here need to investigate getting a hobby....other than following the Redskins.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 7, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

I just don't see how Danny can be excited about Fassel after conducting a 16-hour interview with Spags.

It just doesn't add up. It just doesn't make sense.

Fassel is the fall-back choice. Fassel will be a short-termer as well. And no, Cowher will never walk into this huge mess.

Posted by: gdennie | February 7, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

dbatch, I want my jersey back!

Posted by: jeffhayes | February 7, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

It will be Grimm. Prepare to be stunned. Remember who told you.

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 7, 2008 01:36 PM


Is there a reason why he hasn't been interviewed? I would like to see Grimm get the job. I don't know for sure if he would be a great coach or not, but we don't know that about the other candidates either.

Posted by: fgtdr | February 7, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

what if snyder has been pulling the wool over our eyes and has been interviewing him behind closed doors?

Posted by: SeanTay77 | February 7, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Snyder is the anti-christ

Posted by: starkcp | February 7, 2008 01:39 PM
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Actually, Snyder is Xenu, dictator of the "Galactic Confederacy", who, 75 million years ago, brought billions of his people to Earth in DC-8-like spacecraft, stacked them around volcanoes and killed them using hydrogen bombs.

The anti-christ's got nothing on Danny-boy/Xenu.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | February 7, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

A Meeks hire sounds better and better. every minute. He is involved with the game and is respected. Hiring a failed head coaching retread nobody else wants to replace a beloved H.O.F. coach is like saying your favorite cheesesteak will now be made with rat meat.

Posted by: kalamazoostu | February 7, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

I hope there are annoying 'Skins fans scattered across the country just like there are annoying vaGiants, wIggles, and Cowpie fans in this area.

Posted by: bigmurf08 | February 7, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Unbelievable. Great example of a bad example. The team in Texas is looking better all the time.

Posted by: midkiffpizzaman | February 7, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

go root for them then...

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 7, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

The reason that the interviews take so long is because Synder has to determine if each candidate is a good a#@ kisser.

Guess Spags was not a very good kisser.

Posted by: skinsfan7 | February 7, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

MARTY SHOTTENHEIMER is the one coach we should have never gotten rid of. He was the absolute right choice for this team. I loved how he came in here & took these overpaid, underachieving wild card fruads and put them through the "ohio drill's". There is no doubt in my mind they would have been a CONSISTENT quality playoff contender each year under his leadership. Shame on Danny for stabbing him in the back with that PANZEE Spurrier and then ruinning Joe Gibb's good name.

Posted by: lszovati | February 7, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

People on here need to investigate getting a hobby....other than following the Redskins.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 7, 2008 01:41 PM
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and here you are, posting on the same message board. interesting.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | February 7, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Personality in a football coach is a ludicrous job requirement. A head football coach is the equivalent of a VP in a medium to large organization. His job is to articulate a vision and philosophy for the organization and show the people under him how to execute on same. He is the public face of the organization, and as such sets the tone both internally and externally. He has to be the most organized and efficient person in the whole hierarchy, and he has to have implicit trust that the people he has hired will get the job done. He has to be primarily focused on growing the people under him, which means understanding their goals and motivation and helping them achieve it. He has to be a master motivator, which is not to be confused with being loud.

Any of us who have ever worked for a living have had bosses who exemplify these traits. We've also all likely had bosses who exemplify the opposite.

The fire and brimstone stuff is irrelevant. I seem to recall a guy in Washington, DC who won three Super Bowls and never once looked like anything other than a really, really dull college professor. Some guy named Walsh out in San Francisco invented a whole new way of looking at the passing game, nurtured an entire generation of football coaches in the NFL and college, and won three Super Bowls, all the while being duller than a ceiling tile. Then there's a guy like Ditka, who was a superior leader of men, had all the energy of a pit bull on crack, and won a Super Bowl.

Again, personality is a ludicrous job requirement for a football coach.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 7, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

RUSS GRIMM for Redskins Coach!!!

Posted by: wwkayaker | February 7, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

What the F*uck, please anybody but Fassel. Fassel is probably the only one willing to take the job, everyone else is just interviewing so they can get a raise with their current team.

Posted by: F0X | February 7, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Long-time Skins fan now living in NYC area, but I've had it with this ownership taking a once-proud franchise and turning it into the joke that it has become. Why would a capable coach with other options want to come and join this circus? As long as the team remains as profitable as it has been recently, I don't think Danny will realize what a joke he has become. Let's hope he cashes out soon and we get an owner who can take us to the next level!

Posted by: geoffrey.varga | February 7, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

i'm just waiting to see the headline:

Daniel Snyder to Coach Redskins

Posted by: blushfilms | February 7, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse


It will be Grimm. Prepare to be stunned. Remember who told you.

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 7, 2008 01:36 PM


Is there a reason why he hasn't been interviewed? I would like to see Grimm get the job. I don't know for sure if he would be a great coach or not, but we don't know that about the other candidates either.

Posted by: fgtdr | February 7, 2008 01:41 PM


In Snyder's "interview" yesterday he said he told Grimm that he will be in the HOF very soon. I found it interesting that they are talking alot about trivial things but not about the coaching job. You would think that if they truly do get along then Danny would bring him in, if just to keep him relevant in coaching circles.

Who knows maybe Danny will suprise us. As long as we are making baseless guesses and claiming credit if they turn out right... My guess is in a suprise move, Danny hires Scott Peoli who then hires GG as HC, Spags as DC and Grimm as OC.

Hey a guy can dream can't he?

Posted by: Skinz | February 7, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Everyone that is still mad about Gregg Williams not getting the job get over it I thought he deserved a shot 2 but it's not up to me or any other fan. If I remember straight all of the fans in Pittsburgh wanted Grimm and the front office went against the fan favorite and hired Tomlin and pittsburgh went 2 the playoffs this year. Gregg was and great coach but it it amazing how quickly everyone forgets that in the 06 season everyone was saying the defense was horrible because of his ego and were calling for his head. Amazing how a year later everyone is in love with him again. That fact is give the new coach a chance if you wanna hate snyder and cerrato hate them. As a lifelong skins fan I may not agree with snyder and cerrato's decision but I will always support the players and coaches who work their hardest to make this a quality team.

Posted by: murraysdaman10 | February 7, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

What? No Ms. Spags to talk about?

Posted by: Barneybarnabas | February 7, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

No self respecting coach, who is not utterly desperate for work would walk into a situation where the entire coaching staff is already in place...........CUE FASSELL

Posted by: SeanTay77 | February 7, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse


Hey Hardhitter,

Tell us how Fassel "choked" the SuperBowl? And do you think Coughlin has personality? I don't think so and he just won a Super Bowl.

Posted by: fearturtle44 | February 7, 2008 01:33 PM

Yeah......how about 34-7? I know the Ravens were good on defense that year but not to the tune of 34-7? Have you watched the superbowl that year? Did you think his players put up a fight? They just took it like this years Redskins in the you-know-what 52-7 game. Completely overwhelmed. That's what it was.

I have been following NFL for the last 15 years only but in all those years to me that was the dullest superbowl.

Posted by: hardhitter | February 7, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Mitt Romney for coach! The NFL needs a Mormon coach.

Posted by: floodtime | February 7, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

what if snyder has been pulling the wool over our eyes and has been interviewing him behind closed doors?

Posted by: SeanTay77 | February 7, 2008 01:42 PM

What if Snyder woke up one day and realized to ran the Skins into the ground and changed his ways? What if Peter Angelos woke up one morning and realized he ran the Orioles into the ground and changed his ways? What if Brittney Spears woke up one morning and realized she couldn't sing, accepted defeat and went into exile in Tibet?

People don't change. As a Fan of the Redskins, I have accepted that the wonderful history of the skins is just that, history. Say hello to the Detroit Lions of the new millennium...

Posted by: scotchirishprince | February 7, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Just to make a pitch for "retread" coaches ... some of them got teams into the playoffs this season: Tom Coughlin; Wade Phillips; Bill Bellichek; and Norv Turner.


Posted by: dcsween | February 7, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Real Philadelphia cheese steaks ARE made with rat meat.

Posted by: tafka | February 7, 2008 1:49 PM | Report abuse

magic underwear does not win super bowls

Posted by: jeffhayes | February 7, 2008 1:49 PM | Report abuse

I'm surprised The Danny hasn't talked to Dick Vermiel, Jimmy Johnson and George Allen . . . oh wait, George Allen is gone. But sure there are some other luminaries this little jock-sniffer wants to meet. Davy Johnson? Joe Torre? Phil Jackson? Red Grange?

Posted by: bethesdaguy | February 7, 2008 1:49 PM | Report abuse

This makes me want to puke. I can't think of words appropriate for posting in public that spell out how much I hate what Snyder has done to the Redskins. It's like murder.

Posted by: kmag1 | February 7, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

**************************BREAKING NEWS****************************


DAN SNYDER TO HIRE PETER ANGELOS AS HEAD COACH/C.E.O. OF TEAM.

you heard it here first.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | February 7, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

poop, yeah, I post on here, but you wont see me running around like a chicken without a head, cursing the team, swearing off my allegience to them, vowing never again to spend another hard earned dollar following this team, or any of the other illogical things people are doing.

And, its the "Oklahoma drill" to the poster above who called it the "ohio drill"..

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 7, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Rat ... the other white meat.

Posted by: dcsween | February 7, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

JESUS.....everytime we get into the playoffs and things are starting to click we have to stir up the pot again. WE WERE STARTING TO LOOK LIKE A REAL FOOTBALL TEAM....and Fassel is the worst idea i have ever heard in my life. COME ON MOOCH!!!!

Posted by: daniel.vespa | February 7, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

this blows.

Posted by: jeffhayes | February 7, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

>>> "Listen Puff Daddy, I have never acted like I know everything"

Really, barno? All of your posts reek of someone who is nothing more than a sanctimonious jackass. Worse yet, a sanctimonious jackass with absolutely no sense of humor.

And you're going to have to come at me with an accusation of something other than "intellectual lightweight" because I assure you, that is most certainly not the case.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 7, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Long time reader, first time poster... at this point, Mooch makes the most sense. With the coordinators on hand, an HC who is a dynamic motivator and communicator, and who understands the WC offense (ie. who can help Zorn) would seem ideal. The defense is solid and will have continuity with Blanche, so Meeks doesn't add any value. Mora Jr. and Spags used this interview to get leverage with their own organizations, and I don't think either of them had the resume for the job, anyway. For those who like Meeks, the Colts may very be waiting to make him a counter-offer as well (but the fact that they haven't rushed to lock him up makes me wonder why not?). Mooch is the only logical candidate left - you have to give him a break on the Detroit years, and he was very successful during his stint with SF. That, and the thought of us handing our franchise to a former Giant's coach (and an average one at that) makes me more than a little sick to my stomach!

Posted by: PDXskin | February 7, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

It will either be Meeks or Grimm!

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 7, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

A F me for stooping to that sanctimonious jackass's level. I feel like I'm rolling around in someone else's filth.

jm, a hammer to the back of my head, please. Make it a ball peen hammer.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 7, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Jenkins hit it on the head. It is what I have been saying since Danny pushed GG out. It is about respect. If you have respect and $$$, you get what you want. If you have respect, you can still get good people. If all you have is money, you get people that are 'money first'.

Two great Skins just went into the HOF. Does anyone think that Monk or Green was a 'money first' guy? They were 'win first' and the money will take care of itself (just don't insult me by trying to lowball me).

Both Mora and Spags played Danny. Zorn tried and was told he'd never get promoted. Its what happens when you mgmt isn't respected.


Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 7, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Everyone that thinks snyder is back 2 his old ways how bout you give him a chance. Everyone faults him for not hiring the popular choice well we don't know and will never know what went on behind closed doors. Free agency has not even started and everyone is talking about snyder signing over the hill high priced players. Let's see who we sign first and how thing go in the 08 season before we automatically asume danny boy is back to his old ways. All i am saying is let's sit back and see how things unfold before we flip out.

Posted by: murraysdaman10 | February 7, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

PDiddy,

per·son·al·i·ty (pûr'sə-năl'ĭ-tē)
n., pl. -ties.
The quality or condition of being a person.
The totality of qualities and traits, as of character or behavior, that are peculiar to a specific person.
The pattern of collective character, behavioral, temperamental, emotional, and mental traits of a person: Though their personalities differed, they got along as friends.
Distinctive qualities of a person, especially those distinguishing personal characteristics that make one socially appealing: won the election more on personality than on capability


HC will be coaching a bunch of millionaires...you think they are just going to follow instructions...you need to motivate them...you need to maintain the chemisty...agreed that Xs and Os is a prerequisite before any of this. But once you have that (which Fossil may have) you need to be a motivator of people and earn their respect. Gibbs/Walsh et al had the respect or could motivate people. On the other hand, Fossil I am not sure.

Posted by: hardhitter | February 7, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Would someone tell Danny-boy that he's hiring a head coach, and not a fishin' buddy? Whether or not he and a new head coach are sympatico on a personal level isn't all that relevant. Only two moves made sense after Gibbs retired-- hire G Williams, or hire a new GM and start over. Instead, he hires assistant coaches, a meddlesome move that rivals the worst of Al Davis.

Arrrgh!

Posted by: rvenable | February 7, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Of those who say the fans don't have a say in the matter, I ask who then buys the tickets? Who fills the seats and buys the concessions? If you want to get to Danny, stop buying his product. He will hear that message loud and clear. 90K empty seats will send a loud message.

Posted by: midkiffpizzaman | February 7, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

I always root for a guy like Meeks. Worked hard for years, a loyal lieutenant to a legendary coach, etc. He's in his mid to late 50s, right? I hope he gets a shot to prove himself. He'll be on a short leash in DC, as will any coach they hire, and will probably be canned if he doesn't make the playoffs, but at least he will have had a chance.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 7, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

President/CEO John Mara: "A year ago, Tom hired Steve because people that Tom trusts told him that Steve is a no-nonsense, hard-working, energetic young coach. And Tom liked the fact that Spags had earned his stripes every step of the way in his coaching career."

You know it's no accident that Mara said "Tom hired Steve" -- a clear shot at Danny hiring the assistants and force-feeding whomever ends up taking this job. Classic.

Posted by: CMoney1 | February 7, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

For those who like Meeks, the Colts may very be waiting to make him a counter-offer as well (but the fact that they haven't rushed to lock him up makes me wonder why not?).

Posted by: tertz68 | February 7, 2008 01:53 PM

There might be a different dynamic at play with Meeks. Dungy and company might be rooting for Meeks to get the job even though it is a negative for the Colts. It's been an ordeal for blacks to get head coaching jobs, and the Colts already have decided on the heir apparent to Dungy.

Posted by: skinfanman | February 7, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Readers may find this NY Giants History in Wikipedia interesting, especially the Jim Fassel years. Everyone seems to be getting the details regarding his tenure in NY all mixed up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_New_York_Giants_(1994-present)#1997-1999

Posted by: fmikisits | February 7, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Once again -$nyder is reporting that they eliminated Spags from the search, when Spags' side is saying he called Danny Boy and said no thanks.

To clear up the mystery, a well-placed source said -$nyder was outraged over Spags' outrageous demands:

"¿Pueden yo tener un poco de leche y las galletas antes de que me retire?
"

Posted by: nojunk4me | February 7, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Here's an excerpt from the NY Daily News regarding Spagnuolo's withdrawal:

"Spagnuolo'a agent Lamonte, by the way, insisted that Spagnuolo had a great meeting with Snyder and that his withdrawal had nothing to do with any misgivings about the Redskins organization. However, several people in the Giants' organization had warned him about Snyder's meddling ways - as evidenced by the fact that the Redskins' offensive and defensive coordinators have already been hired - and the fact that the 'Skins are currently nearly $20 million over the projected 2008 salary cap."

Boycott Synder and his stupidity!!

Posted by: skinsfan7 | February 7, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

hardhitter, I guess I'm misunderstanding your definition of personality (not Webster's though :-) ).

All I'm saying is that the fire and brimstone stuff is unnecessary. St. Joe CERTAINLY had a personality, and one that his players CLEARLY understood. I'd venture to say that most of his players played hard for him because they didn't want to disappoint him or let him down.

In my experience, that's the single greatest trait a leader can cultivate in an organization. But not all people are naturally capable of doing so. It takes a great degree of selflessness to pull that off, and many people who reach elite levels have a certain megalomaniacal streak to them that runs in contrast to selflessness. Humility and trust (in your people, and engendering the same among your people) are, in my opinion and in my experience, the fundamental basis of strong leadership.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 7, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

'As long as we are making baseless guesses and claiming credit if they turn out right... '

Skinz, I resemble that remark!

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 7, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Repeat after me:

Meeks or Grimm....

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 7, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Liverpool (a storied English Football team for those who don't know) is owned by a group of American that pissed off the fans.

Those same fans are now trying to raise the funds to BUY the team and and gain control of it in the same fashion as a publicly held company.

Instead of all this complaining about Snyder, why not attempt a similar movement? At the very least, media types will take notice, and it could pressure Snyder....or fail horribly. Either way, its worth a shot...

Posted by: scotchirishprince | February 7, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

*********POLL QUESTION**************


WHAT'S DAN SNYDER:

A GIANT DOUCHE?

or

A TURD SANDWICH?

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | February 7, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

He's in his mid to late 50s, right?

Posted by: PDiddy | February 7, 2008 01:57 PM

Meeks is 53.

Posted by: skinfanman | February 7, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

The Colts' situation is odd because Jim Caldwell is the recently announced coach-in-waiting, and they likely want to give him the option of choosing his own staff (imagine that!) and therefore don't want to lock everyone up to long term deals.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 7, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

The snickering is already starting around the league. Fassel, yuk-yuk, ha-ha. Well, it's not announced, YET. So, shut up! Let us suffer in peace.

This quote is from a newspaper article in Boston. Expect more of the same.

One NFC East executive, a Spagnuolo fan, said recently that he hopes the Redskins hire Jim Fassel, meaning it would be good for their team [not the Skins]. Fassel has been viewed as a frontrunner by some, but others see him as a fallback... "If they wanted him, they could have had him two weeks ago," one league source said. "He's not going anywhere."
http://www.examiner.com/a-1206266~Redskins_search_to_last_one_more_day.html

If Snyder hires Fassel and he sucks, forget about any love around the league for a decade or so. So long Gibbs 2.0.

Posted by: james7691 | February 7, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse


How much personality did Tom Landry have? I must have forgotten about the laugh a minute pressers that Tony Dungy had? How 'bout Chuck Noll? I always get Chris Rock and Joe Gibbs confused.

This is my argument about politics... just because someone gives a great speech, doesn't means they can be president. ( see Obama ) I hope he does/and is a good president. But don't mistake charisma for excellence.

Posted by: cej75024 | February 7, 2008 12:50 PM

There is such a thing as a coach who has gravitas. That quality that is parts command, respect, love and fear. Players know it when they see it. Lombardi had it; the one season he came to Washington he changed the culture of the team. Dungy has it. Bellichek has it. Unfortunately, for our cause, I do not sense any of the current possibilities for the Redskins having it.

Posted by: driley | February 7, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

beep beep, beepity beepity boo!

Posted by: PDiddy | February 7, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

This is for the Giants fan who posted his perspective on Fassel: Thanks, Mr. Wolf. I was actually wondering how the Fassel era was remembered by a Giants fan, and I think you gave us an even-handed account of his tenure in New York. It also confirms my belief that he would not be a good fit here. We already hired a tutor for JC when we hired Zorn. Meeks might make a good coach, but with Blache as DC, I don't see a defensive-minded coach being the right selection. I'm still pulling for Mooch, personally. I think he has the right personality to hobnob with Snyder and Cerrato, and still be somewhat productive as a coach. Just my opinion of course, and you know what they say about opinions...

Posted by: jaradel | February 7, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

It is a pleasure to introduce the new head coach of the Washington Redskins, Pepper Rodgers!

Posted by: JAMNEW | February 7, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Unprofessional & Chaotic: Snyder's reing in DC has been filled with nothing but dissapointment thru out the Washington DC area. I am a Redskin for life however just when one thinks we could possibly have continuity, leave it to Snyder to just crap all over that. I know it wasn't Snyder who pushed Gibbs away but to let GW go and to insult our other former coaches by hiring their replacements before they were let go is simply unprofessional and crazy. Now you have Spags who is staying with the Giants (who can blame him, lets be real ... the guy just won a SuperBowl)and now your only left option is Fassel?

Fassel stinks! what has he ever done? he was with the Giants and got nowhere, then he went to Baltimore and got fired by his beft friend Billick. At least we can say that GW was inhouse and know the players and plays and atmosphere around DC. Saunders, while i didn't reall y like him, he grew on me. We could have still kept him and his playbook, more importantly we could have had familiar system. Thanks to Snyder we haven't had a system that players were ever use to ... thus the no continuity within DC! It saddens me to say that we will continue to struggle as a team and franchise as long as we have Snyder. Or when he realizes to stop thinking like a immature fan with money and start thinking like a executive coach!

i have relocated from DC to Philly and still repo the burgandy and gold but it hurts when we have Fassel to look forward to ... what owner hires coordinator before a coach? Looks and sounds like Snyder wasn't keeping coach Gibbs for any kind of consultation/advisory notes. I know Gibbs would dissaprove.

when will the Redskins see another Championship? How long must we wait? we have all the talent in the world to win one and yet we still maintian to be the laughing stock of the NFC :(


Posted by: gamarra_max | February 7, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Sally Jenkins is right on point!........Don't take the job because of Danny Boy & Vinnie what ever his name is!. OK fan back to the 5-11 & 6-10 teams with That Loser Fassel! & Mooch all he want is a pay day! That's what these Coaches want is a paycheck from Danny Boy & in return we the Fans! get 5-11 teams. He should have hired Greg Williams but that was too much like being right!

Posted by: fogg4you | February 7, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

I guess the little Napoleon will have to stay in the kiddie pool by himself because the candidate pool is about empty!!!

Boycott the little Napoleon!!

Posted by: skinsfan7 | February 7, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

*********POLL QUESTION**************


WHAT'S DAN SNYDER:

A GIANT DOUCHE?

or

A TURD SANDWICH?

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | February 7, 2008 02:02 PM

The best part of this episode was the reference to Puff Daddy's asinine "Vote or Die" campaign.

Kyle: No, no, you... you wrote down Turd Sandwich.
Stan: Yeah, I know.
Kyle: Dude, you're supposed to vote for Giant Douche.
Stan: I thought I was supposed to make my own decision.
Kyle: Well yeah, but not if your decision is for Turd Sandwich! What the hell is wrong with you?!

Classic.

Posted by: barno | February 7, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

I guess the Little Napoleon has met his Waterloo!

Posted by: skinsfan7 | February 7, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Wouldn't it be funny of Marcel Marceau were the new head coach?

Actually, he's dead. But if he were alive and the new coach, we'd have the hand signals down pat in case the coach-QB headset stopped working.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 7, 2008 01:18 PM

Good. Real good.
Actually, he could mime the whole play, including Heyer whiffing on his block and Campbell limping off the field.

Posted by: driley | February 7, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

in honor of the 20th anniversary of the 1987 champs, skins are bringing in former qb ed rubbert for an interview.

Posted by: epdaly | February 7, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

I guess it is official.....Not that Spagnuolo isn't coming to town. That it is now a 2 horse race, not the Fassel/Meeks race but the Skins vs. Raiders race for laughingstock of the league. Seriously, if it wasn't for Al Davis, do you realize how much more negative national press we'd be getting - - above and beyond what we already get.

Posted by: umterp98 | February 7, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

It's great we've waited all this time only to get shafted by a 1st year defensive coordinator.

Posted by: isonic1 | February 7, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

A great day for the Giants. Snyder gets what he deserves.

G-man!

Posted by: mikey4 | February 7, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Let's see, sign with a franchise that is in total disarray, with a nutcase for an owner, or stay with one that actually has a future.

Hmmmm.
And people here wonder why spags stayed with the Giants.

However, there is hope. It may be Mariucci.

Posted by: gopher0819 | February 7, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Mooch would be the best hire. He did a good job in SF then they ran him out. Nobody can win in Detroit under Matt.

Posted by: jasbir_singh | February 7, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Again, I repeat that the best long term solution for the Redskins is for Dan Snyder to become head coach. He has great offensive and defensive coordinators. This solution would save Snyder the trouble of calling down from his skybox to put different players in the game. Also, when he wants to ream out a coach in front of the team after a loss, it would be easier for all concerned.

Dan has been general manager since 2000 so he's a football expert. Adding head coach to his official title isn't that much of a stretch.

Posted by: dcarmich | February 7, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Snyder wanted Fassel all along and when fans revolted, his tactics was to lenthen the hiring process to fool us. He is a complete idiot when it comes to running this organization and who in their right mind would want to coach for this control freak unless they want some moolah! Stop buying tickets people and squeeze Snyders wallet just the the O's fans are doing to Angelos.

Posted by: mofares | February 7, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

I'm wringing my hands worrying that Synder will name Deion Sanders the new head coach. He worked out so well the last time he was here.

Posted by: Charles07971 | February 7, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

At this point why not make Joe Bugel the head coach? He has head coaching experience, would keep the continuity somewhat and he's still under contract for another year. besides he never got a fair shot in the other 2 places he coached.

Posted by: stevesavoy | February 7, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Again, I repeat that the best long term solution for the Redskins is for Dan Snyder to become head coach. He has great offensive and defensive coordinators. This solution would save Snyder the trouble of calling down from his skybox to put different players in the game. Also, when he wants to ream out a coach in front of the team after a loss, it would be easier for all concerned.

Dan has been general manager since 2000 so he's a football expert. Adding head coach to his official title isn't that much of a stretch.

Posted by: dcarmich | February 7, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

After about a million screwed up personnel decisions went down and then when the idiots didn't resign Antonio Pierce is when I gave up on them... turned in my 4 season tix, the whole works... never gave him another dime. And now we are here. Great! Is this unbelievable or what? So, do what I did. Stop paying him. All you guys screaming boycott.... DO IT. They are all idiots. Too bad we love the team.

Posted by: gb810 | February 7, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

CORK's COACH LIST. 3.0

Copied and updated from last thread. And I believe we're all hanging from our last thread.

1. Spags. spags, spags, You'rea punk, you went home, our hopes have sunk. Burma Shave

2. Gibbs 3.2 The new patch has been issued. fixing some earlier glitches. Tanned, rested and ready.

3. Marcel Marceau. NOT my original idea, but a fine one. Why? As one expert put it " "

3. Damn you WGA strike. Without writers, you get that shopworn old MM joke at #3

4. FURST! Apparently very popular on this board.

5. The late Keith Moon. Dude was the BEST ever.

6. Kukla, Fran, but NOT Ollie.

7. Meeks. He's black. Obama's black. Coincidence? I don't think so.

8. Romney's out. Hmmmm. Snyder may lob him a call.

9. Danny Snyder. Come on, you KNOW you want it. Don't yuh? Don't deny it. Appoint yourself. It's daring. It's unprecendented, and when you suck and fire yourself as owner, too.

10. Mooch. Mooch, Mooch, he's our Man...yada yada.

Bubblng under the top ten: Michael Buble, Fergie, Fassel, Romey, Cowher, Bo Diddley. (You laugh, but you can 't judge a book by looking at the cover,)

I feel sad now. Very very sad.

Posted by: corkczar | February 7, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

As a Giant fan I'm happy the G-Men keep Spags, but though we're NFC East rivals, let me commend Fassel to you. He was our coach from 1997-2003... not spectacular, but he always got A effort out of some not-so-talented Giant teams. That 2000 team shouldn't have even gone to the Super Bowl, and the 1997 and 2002 teams shouldn't have made the playoffs at all. Fassel gets the most out of his players.

Posted by: funkmeisterjay | February 7, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

First of all to the person who made the comment about Gregg Williams when he was in Buffalo he didn't have much talent there as the Skins now have so he didn't do well next look at what he was able to accomplish with our D three out of four years. He did a good job. He should have been made the HC. And last I'll say this if Danny Boy hires Fassal which I think he will now that Spags is staying with the Giants we Redskins fans can get ready to be the laughing stock of the NFC east for as long as Fassal is there. Good going Dan Synder your messing it all up again. You should have listened to Gibbs and hired William as HC. In the press conferecne Dan said he has learned a lot from Joe but I guess that he hasn't learned to listen to him. Just ask some of the family that Jack Kent Cook has still left around the area, how many times he didn't want to listen to Gibbs and take his advise on this or that but he did give in and all turned out well. You don't coach a team to three Super Bowl titles and not know what you are talking about, but I guess Dan can't see that. He'll be sorry he didn't hire Gregg Williams. And if I'm wrong I'll come in here and give Dan and Fassal an aplogy. I hope I'll have to because that will mean the Skins have done well under Fassal if he is the HC, but I really don't think I'll have to aplogize because Jim Fassal want be able to do the job.

Posted by: rmilton | February 7, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

People are all fired up about Jim Fassel. What about Bill Callahan as long as we're talking about crappy coaches who took teams to the Super Bowl?

I like Meeks but watch Snyderrato screw this up. The 'Skins will end up with Joe Bugel.

Posted by: BBride | February 7, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

F**** Snyder He could screw up a wet dream. It is hell being a redskins fan with Danny Boy (short little man) running things Way to go Danny you are going to hire a former O cordinator that got FIRED by the Ravens. Hell of a Pick. Get a GM you a** hole. You are a smuck and we should all picket out side his house in Potomac or do some thing, I am in B-more I hope the local media is letting him have it for messing up a good thing. Some one please have some balls and let this little punk know that he if a fool.

Posted by: yousuck335 | February 7, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

the redskins are doomed as long a snyder owns the team. period.

Posted by: rpadscheer | February 7, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

This just blows. Please God, don't let it be Jim Fassel.

Posted by: David_G.Mistretta | February 7, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Look, for the redskins it doesn't matter who we get to coach, or who we get to play or how much we spend this organization is screwed up because of the two guys at the top. End of converstation. If Gibbs couldn't get it done...what makes you think that anyone else will. We need a legit football guy running the operation Not danny, vinny and the coach. It doesn't work. Its proven 1 playoff victory in 15 years. We need snyder out of most of decision except money and then we can start thinking playoffs.

Posted by: grace | February 7, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse


I get the feeling no one wants to coach under Snyder.

Maybe this should be a subtle hint for him.

Posted by: JackGallagher | February 7, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse

As a "happier-than-a-sissy-in-Boys-Town" long, LONG-time suffering fan of the NY Football Giants, I am thrilled that Spags is staying put. Unfortunately for all of you Redskin fans, I think Danny could hire J.C. himself and you'd still end up at the bottom of the NFC East for the next several years. What on earth is he thinking??? Steve Spurrier, call your service...

Posted by: bill57 | February 7, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Any votes for Llyod Carr? I hear he's not too busy. If they interview a few more canidates maybe they can stretch this thing out to draft day.

Posted by: kelly2field | February 7, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Fassel is Norv without the fire. Or the smarts. Or the rings. Or a job. (But better hair! Don't forget the hair!)

Posted by: gbooksdc | February 7, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

This is all quite irrelevant...

it's NOT a head coach that Snyder seeks -- it's a yes-man/figurehead that he intends to hire...

apparently, highly qualified NON-coaching coaches are hard to fine

Posted by: avolentine | February 7, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

I don't why everyone all of a sudden has jumped on the Spag wagon. Before the Superbowl and playoffs he was just another coordinator. Not taking anything awaye from him, he did an excellent job but lets face it his defensive crew is pretty stout. Before anyone hands him the top job he needs to prove himself and build a longer resume.

Posted by: ryanr007 | February 7, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

MARTY BALL. . . 8-8 was looking good a few years back. We could have been the chargesr of late

Posted by: monster | February 7, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Can't wait for baseball season to start, with Nats at their shiny new ballpark.
Can't wait to see hockey playoffs with Caps in it, led by Alex the Great.
Redskins off-season dramas are getting boring already.

Posted by: stevehoffman | February 7, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

At this point does anyone beside me think Marty probably did the best job while he was here?

Posted by: grace | February 7, 2008 2:52 PM | Report abuse

To call FASSEL as bad as NORV is offensive....

NORV singlehandedly ruined the REDSKINS....from which we only began to emerge when Gibbs 2.0 Began....

Posted by: goosedude | February 7, 2008 2:52 PM | Report abuse

My wife and I went to the Miami opener last season. $30 parking, $5 bottle of water and a $60 food bill. It's sad when you have to sell a kidney to go to a Redskin's game. What an enjoyable outing. Danny has ruined this team which has a rich history as a classy organization. Might as well let the player's coach themselves. Schottenheimer was a good coach. Danny the ego ruined his short tenure as head coach. Sounds like we are in for another Spurrier like scenario. I for one will be watching next seasons Redskins games on my HD TV.

Posted by: brescott77 | February 7, 2008 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Marty got a bum rap just like all the other coaches under Danny's ownership (except for St. Joe, of course). Why would ANYONE want to work for the guy??

Posted by: bill57 | February 7, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

As a giants fan, I can say that fassel is a pretty good coach. He won the division in his first year and the giants made the playoffs 3 out of the 7 years he was there. He almost won a superbowl and it was not completely his fault that they lost. The fact that he already has a rather successful resume as a coach should make you want him more even though the last 2 years were not that good. The giants hired coughlin who was good for a couple years but then not so good in jacksonville. After he had some time away from football and then came back as giants head coach, he was able to be successful. Fassel's situation is similar to that of coughlin's. I've always like fassel and am hoping the skins don't hire him because I feel like he will find ways to beat the Giants.

Posted by: henitz9 | February 7, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Good grief. Snyder is the devil. He has taken a proud franchise that worked long and hard to build itself up with blood, sweat, and tears and now has turned it into fools gold. Everyone who becomes associated with this franchise is bought off with 30 pieces of silver at the expense of their souls. They all have sold out for the almighty Snyder dollar. What do the fans have to look forward too? Snyder raising the ticket prices again? Raising the price of parking? Maybe he can add some "attraction fee's" while he is at it? I can't bring myself to ever get rid of my season tickets but instead I'll sell them from here on out until Daniel Snyder releases his cancerous grasp of this team! This franchise needs an intervention!!!!

Posted by: hog4life | February 7, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Spagnolo read Sally Jenkins article this morning on the Post. She nailed it to the T. and he took her advise.
Snyder is better off selling the team. We are the laughing stock of the NFL with the way he has handled things. He's got a head harder than a Coconut. He does not belong in the NFL.

Posted by: otutmo | February 7, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Wow a coach in modern American sports actually decided to stay and learn the craft a bit more instead of jumping at the dollar signs (Warhol or not)...Good for you Spag. This Giant fan and AU ALUM is proud of you and your amazing D.

Posted by: nnn | February 7, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

"Sources close to Spagnuolo told FOXSports.com's Jay Glazer that one of the major factors in his decision to pull out was that he wants to be able to hire his own staff rather than join a team with the coaching staff already in place." This is exactly what was posted in Post blogs last week. Any coach worth his salt is going to want to bring in his own team. That can't be done now because of the way Snyder handled the situation. The Redskins were a playoff team and not far from being a Championship one, now Snyder and Cerrato have thoughtlessly disassembled everything, and it's back to square one. It's just sad.

Posted by: steven09 | February 7, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Ron Meeks people!!!!...he has run way more defense the Spags has ever done...plus our best defensive player (Marcus Washington)is boys with Meeks....of course Spags looked like a genius with the best line in the NFL...

Posted by: Woodbridgeboy | February 7, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

I'm a downtrodden Redskins fan living in Northern NJ suffering amongst the hysteria of Giants fevor. That being said, I experienced the Fassel era first hand and he's not that bad a coach.

If we can't get Cowher, which we won't, he's not the end of the world.

Posted by: celano76 | February 7, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

I can't quit the Redskins but there is no way I can go back to the stadium with Snyder at the helm. When "little Napoleon" took over I got my seats from other Redskins fans who refused to go while he was the owner. Over the past 6 years I've now understood what they meant. I'm not in the same boat. I firmly believe that is why the stadium is so full of opposing fans. They buy up the seats from the fans who are sick and tired of Snyder and his regime. Until the Redskins get a GM and/or Snyder resigns this team will continually melt down. Plus he will stick us with every fee and charge known to man for our "loyalty". This I swear!

Posted by: hog4life | February 7, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

It's time to move back to DC! Get into a stadium with the home field advantage of RFK. Of course Synder won't sell the team but he needs a legit Bobby Bethard/Charlie Casserly GM and stay away! You are not Jerry Jones Mr. Synder!! Not that you should be Jerry.

Posted by: celano76 | February 7, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

I'm in the minority here, but I actually believe Fassel will make a good head coach if chosen. I give no credence to the fact that Billick fired him. That means nothing. Living in NYC and following Fassel's career as I did, I thought he did a decent job. His Super Bowl run was eerily similar to the Giants run this year, with of course the difference being the game result. Fact is, no one was going to beat the 2000 Raven team...no one. I love his motivational skills far more than I do Gibbs' passive approach.
This comment in no way absolves Snyder of his responsibility and handling of this situation. If it is Fassel, we could do worse.
Do we really think his team would have more blunders than Gibbs' coaching staff did the last 4 years?

Posted by: RollyMac | February 7, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Is Vinnie going to be the HEAD Coach?

Posted by: varora | February 7, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

I cannot believe that Daniel Snyder could not out bid the Giants for Spagnuolo. This basically means that Snyder did not want to really hire Spagnuolo all along. He wanted Fassell all along. The whole interview process with Spagnuolo was to fool the Redskins fans into thinking that he was exploring all options.

I hope none of the Redskins fans fall for this trick.

Posted by: sumc0609 | February 7, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Congratulations Danny!!!

A new all time low!!

(Just like SixFlags)

Posted by: Mike45 | February 7, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

i am 1 year away from be embarressed to be a redskin fan

Posted by: smqbert | February 7, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

First, to all that wonder why most of us don't like Fassel. Lets just look at his last job. He was ran out of Baltimore by his players. His players did not want him. Did not like him. Now that is just him in a OC spot. There are countless stories of him from NY.

Second, thank you Washington Post for have this comment section right under the story. Start putting the pressure on Danny and Vinney

Posted by: jjpleen | February 7, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Please, enough already!!!! Lets get Steve M. If were going to the west coast O, and with Zorn and Blache in place we just need the guy who learned from the best Bill Walsh. Mooch has the m.o. we need to put this all in place. Man, I have been a skins fan since 82, I'm only 38, this process makes me feel like 68!!!!

Posted by: lwehbe | February 7, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

good 4 spags=BAD 4 skins. i hope that skins dont end up with fatsell,that will not be real smart.but i guess snyder doesnt want any fans at the games anymore. come on MOOCH, OR MEEKS,PLEZ!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: bpetty1 | February 7, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Say what you want but there's no guarantee 1st year Def coordinator Spags was going to turn into the next great coach. Especially since he's bounced around from job to job for the last 20 years.

Posted by: celano76 | February 7, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Time to bring back Martyball!

Posted by: joethere | February 7, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Isn't it time to interview Russ Grimm?

Posted by: strictly_liberal | February 7, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

We could use Bill "SpyGate" Belichick and Tom Brady. That would help.

Posted by: celano76 | February 7, 2008 3:49 PM | Report abuse

JUST SAY NO TO FASSEL!

Posted by: jkrefetz | February 7, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Good move by Spagnuolo. Why work for "The Daniel" when you can stay with a winner?

BTW, what does Vinnie have on Danny to not only keep a job but to move up? Did Danny does something naughty and was caught by Vinnie?

Posted by: mortified469 | February 7, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse

"Welcome to Owner Purgatory, Dan. I'll be your host, Al Davis."

Posted by: warren85 | February 7, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Maybe they finally talked about the salary after 2-days interview. Spags said "Do I get at least $5 millions like Joe Gibbs?" Snyder said "Are you crazy? Gibbs won 3 SuperBowl, Who are you? A first year defensive coordinator with only a few good games at the end of the season and we almost swept your defense". Spags said "Didn't Spurrier get $5 million too?" Snyder said "He was a long-tim celebrity before he came here". So, Spags decided to go to New York.

Posted by: hoangnguyen33 | February 7, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

OH NO... WE SUCK AGAIN!!!!!!

Posted by: peterandmeredith | February 7, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

The job will now go to whoever is pathetic enough to take it and be a puppet. I frankly don't care anymore. I don't care if they hire one of the guys who sells hot dogs in the stadium for the job. What's the difference? Vinnie and midget boy are going to be calling the shots and pulling the puppets strings anyway. I've been a Skins fan since before this turd was old enough to watch football, and I'm close to wanting to see them do poorly just because I hate snyder so much.

Posted by: red2million | February 7, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Thank God. Now the Giants can continue to spank the Deadskins' a$$e$. LOL you stupid chumps.

Posted by: adrienne_najjar | February 7, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps Snyder wants to call the plays next year and he is looking for a stooge.

Posted by: bikenrpb | February 7, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Folks,........it really all goes back to Jack Kent Cooke. He made it impossible for John Kent Cooke to buy the team, and here we are today with this idiot Snyder. One post here made mention of "picketing" Snyder's house. Not bad,........... The Redskins will never be a winner as long as this little jerk owns the team. He refuses to hire a GM, he keeps the perenial loser Vinnie Cerato around to advise him, he dragged this "process" out to a point where there are no bonfide coaches still available and worst all, we should not be in this situation now, because "little Napoleon" didn't do the right thing and make Greg Williams the coach. Snyder talked of "consistencey" and the only consistency we have left is his normal,............blunder after blunder. Hire Jim Fassel? Gag me! Let's get some consistency,..........Joe Bugel would be my choice. Russ Grimm,.........OK by me. One thing is for certain, Snyder is a young man, and he's gonna be around for too long a time to come. Thank you,...........Jack Kent Cooke.

Posted by: kb_nash | February 7, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

What happened with steve mariucci?

Posted by: Mhalky | February 7, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

I'm done.......I will not give another cent to that little squirt.

Posted by: dwandell | February 7, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Disgraceful. The incredibly idiotic way Snyder has botched this up since inception is beyond comprehension. He makes Steinbrenner (in his younger days) and Angelos look like ideal owners. No one will want to coach here; no one will want to play here; and eventually no one will want to support the team.

Snyder has now made the Redskins the laughing stock of the NFL. What a shame for the loyal fans of this once proud franchise.

Posted by: chund | February 7, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

You know what would be funny? Fassel winning a Super Bowl with the Redskins. I'm not saying it'll happen, but nobody thought the Jints would beat the Pats either. Sorry, I just need some sort of good thought after all the doom and gloom I keep talking, hearing and reading. I don't want Fassel but I'd love it if I were wrong about him.

Posted by: countystyle | February 7, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Smart move by Spanuolo; while the Skins have a good defense, I have a hard time believing he would've been able to work the same magic he did with the Giants. He owes his credit to the Giants' D-Line.

Posted by: thegreat_one24 | February 7, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

JUST MAKE UP YOUR MIND DAN,WE HAVE THE PRE SEASON AROUND THE CORNER THE CORNER AND NO PLAN IN PLACE FOR OUR TEAM AND THE DRAFT IS NEAR AND WE DON'T HAVE CLUE WHAT THE NEW COACH WANTS TO RUN ON BOTH SIDES OF THE BALL AND DRAFT THE RIGHT GUY SO DAN MAKE UP $%#%# MIND

Posted by: wesleya17 | February 7, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

What about Joe Bugel?

Posted by: montana123 | February 7, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

all i have to say is I just hope the players are good even though are staff is falling apart and...

PATRIOTS ARE AWFUL!!!!!

Posted by: jsweeney1 | February 7, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Don't give Jack Kent Cooke too much credit. After Joe Gibbs I, we lost badly 6 years in the row because the way he handed off the team to Norve Turner. To be fair with Snyder, I think Snyder had to swallow Cooke's mistake, was forced to play bad-guy role and did the dirty job because he was the one who had to fire Norve Turner.

We should all agree that Snyder had been nothing but a good soldieur under Joe Gibbs II. Snyder let Gibbs run the team from day 1 and followed Gibbs order. Sure, we made playoff 2 years out of 4, but I'm very sure most of us expected more. If we are unhappy about anything about the past 4 years, don't blame Snyder, blame all on Joe Gibbs.

Snyder must take control after Gibbs left because he doesn't trust any unproven candidate and I think that's a good thing to do. I strongly believe the Giants won the Super Bowl because of the head coach Tom Coughlin and their GM. Tom Couglin has always been a very good head coach to me, he is discipline, hard working, lots of experiences. Please study the situation closely, the Giants has been solid the past few years even before Spags came, they lost in the playoff but their defense is always strong. Spags was only one small factor this year, he doesn't deserve all credits like many of us try to give him.

I agree with the minority in here. I'm okay with Jim Fassel. He is not my first choice, but it's not a bad choice. I like Brian Billich a litte more than Fassel because Baltimore seems to be very consistent for a long time before they collapsed, but Tom Coughlin was in the same situation too.

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Posted by: hoangnguyen33 | February 7, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Bring back Spurrier!!! The ol ball coach.

That is about Synder's speed.

Oh and raise the ticket, parking, and concession prices while he is at it.

What a sad owner for such a storied franchise.

Dan - please sell and go off to Six Flags where you belong.

Posted by: michael.mcdermott | February 7, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Well I sure Hope Meeks gets the job then.
How many people have to tell the skins to go F themselves before Snyder realizes he is a jacka$$?

Posted by: smithrob26 | February 7, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

We're done. It's over.

I'm completely done with Snyder but will always bleed burgundy and gold.

Posted by: thecayman | February 7, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Meeks Is who this team should hire, he was under the tutelage of one of the best coaches in the NFL, for years.
Meeks has a track record, that is nothing short of brilliant.
Moreover, this of hireing of coaches that are in vogue at the time,is utter crap!
I will take Meeks, and I wouldn't look back.

Posted by: dashriprock | February 7, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

If Fassel comes in let's boycott the Redskins!! Snyder has found a way to unite all political views--of course, its all negative against him.

Posted by: eagles1 | February 7, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

I hope to God Mooch is still a candidate.

Posted by: luvtheskins428 | February 7, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

about the only positive thing we can say is that snyder wants to win and money is no object. Sally Jenkins is right- the reason the Gnats won is because of Ernie Reese and I believe they are NOT a fluke for that reason. All 8 drafted players on the roster- 3 rookies make large contributions in the playoffs?! The skins don't have not had 8 draft choices in 2 years. The Skins will remain mediocre until the front office( read snyder) gets a decent football man in place to be GM and lets him run the show.Gibbs did leave for a reason: Snyder got to be too much. I am afraid there is no Gibbs 3 to rescue us from the oncoming debacle.

Posted by: shashikant | February 7, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Can't blame Snyder? Wake up! Let's see,....hires Vinnie Cerato the yes man of all yes men,....He hires Marty and gives the man no chance? Marty goes to San Diego,....and well,....you know. Snyder hires Steve Spurrier? Oh Lord! No,......can't blame Snyder for being an idiot,....that may be just inherent. Screwing up the Redskins? Oh yeah, I sure as hell can blame him for that!

Posted by: kb_nash | February 7, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Let's get real here! Spags was not the answer,Fassil will never be an answer,Meeks would have to be questioned,if he is offered and accepts.
Mariucci was the only answer and now he he has been exposed to this circus of ignorance,so he won't be applying again!
Face it skin fans, we are in the s--t as long as these two morons(Snyder/Cerrato) lead the show!
If anyone heard the commentary today on sirius radio(Adam Shine)you would be as depressed as i am. All they needed was Sally Jenkins in thier booth and the skins organization would have been completely humiliated!
They compared this team w/ the Oakland Raiders! Predicted us to be in last place for a number of years, and no positive future in sight as long as this is journey is conducted by Snyder/Ceratto.
Buckle down, sit in an upright position and brace yourselves for the most horrible ride in the world....The Washington Redskins front office madhouse!
Just for the record,this is killing me to print this,i've been a fan for 35yrs. and would want to beat the crap out of anyone who would dare say anything derrogatory about my Redskins but i also deal in reality and truth! This format allows me to vent my anger with hopes the dynamic dopes will lower themselves and read these blogs!
I'm to sad to continue, must go put in a DVD,when the Redskins were the Redskins! Not the Snyrattoback mountain morons!

Posted by: briannalynn21 | February 7, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Drischord wrote "Just let Snyder coach the team."

This is a great idea, after one year he will surely fire himself and the problems is solved!

Snyder for head coach!!!

Posted by: ericmc1998 | February 7, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Fossil. Those Giant teams were horribly boring, low level offenses and passable defenses. I don't even see how his name comes up. Seriously. Cerrato is a cancer. The Dolphins will step on us in two years. Here comes another decade of cellar dwelling. Meeks is the only interesting name I've seen, but without a football guy at GM we are hosed. Period, end of story, wake me up when Vick gets out of jail, or better, just let me sleep until Snyder sells.

Posted by: tchiarel | February 7, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

If we are heading towards Fassel, I guess we needed a change. So why not a complete change and Hire Ron Meeks.

Posted by: jglenn15 | February 7, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

The short list....

Jack Pardee
Ritchie Pettibon
Bud Grant (not dead just frozen)

Posted by: cafweston | February 7, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Holy crap! I guess the 12 hour interview didn't go so well. Spags is smart to pull out.

Posted by: thegoodings2 | February 7, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

oh well. Here we go again. Rackin up the rounds; I mean more losses.....Put your hat back on, the lawn needs mowing.

Posted by: jmpatnode | February 7, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

This is a nightmare. Just when you thought the Skins were going in the right direction. The offense ran pretty smooth with T.Collins. Now you have to teach the offense a whole no offense. That's tough especially for the still young J. Campbell. What's so bad is that i'm a die hard REDSKIN fan. born and raised in NYC. I'm still taking abuse from co-workers and my brother in law big Giant fans. And to top it off I had to work the victory parade. And Guess who started the REDSKINS Suck chants. None other then the ex- Redskin A. Pierce.Talk out painful. Now we're about to hire the soft J. Fassel. NIGHTMARE! Please Dan "what the hell you doing" Snyder sell the team.

Posted by: prjay120 | February 7, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Here we go again with the merry-go-round.

Perhaps this month off has given Gibbs new perspective and he will return to coach the Skins in 2008 and honor his contract...(ok, just woke up from my dream...), going back to sleep now.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzz......ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzz

When the Skins hire a coach, please wake me up.

Thank you.

Posted by: 2greekdc | February 7, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

prjay120

I feel for you having to live in enemy territory. That must really suck. You are really going to catch hell, now that spags has pulled out. Good luck!

Posted by: thegoodings2 | February 7, 2008 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Spaghetti (I mean Spagnuoulo - is that the way it's spelled?) probably called Joe Gibbs in the 18th hour of his 18 hours of meetings with the Boy King and asked him...is this guy really worth working for?

When he got his answer, he probably thought it over a bit and said, you know what, I'll take the money and unmeddlesome owner in NY instead.

Spaghetti's no dummy.

Posted by: 2greekdc | February 7, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

They deserve Brian Billick.LOL

Posted by: johnnyu19 | February 7, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

I've never posted here before but feel compelled to being a lifelong Skins fan.

I feel Fassel is one of the best candidates for the job. He was successful with the Giants. Towards the end of his stint, his players quit, not him. He took that group to the Super Bowl and won the NFC East twice in seven years. Other than Gibbs in first stint with the Skins, who has done that recently?

He took Kerry Collins, whom no one wanted, and made him very successful. The Giants have had personnel attitude problems post Parcells. The players quit on their coach. Look at what happened to Coughlin last year and the beginning of this year. Remember Tiki, Strahan, Shockey and others wanted Coughlin gone. Everyone thought he should have been fired last year and at 0-2 this year, thought he should be replaced mid year. I guess he turned them around because they won the big game. I think the post Parcell era Giants players have too much media attention and complain too much. It seems as if the bad attitudes unite in New York. I say again, I thought the Giants players quit on Fassel not the other way around.

Back to Fassel, the guy has head coaching experience. He has also helped develop some pretty good QBs along his way. Other than Mooch, no other candidate has that. I am huge fan of Joe Gibbs and the old school coaches - Buges, Breux, Simmons. However, the Skins were not dominant under him the second time around. I wanted Williams to succeed Gibbs but I am not heartbroken he didn't because I'd like to see the Skins evolve. I think the NFC East has evolved from a smash mouth division into a pass first division. The Cowboys, Eagles and Giants have moved on and ahead of us.

Mooch could be another option. George Seifert, who hasn't been heard from in years would be someone I think should be interviewed. I'd also want to interview Russ Grimm but he has no head coaching experience and I'd like the Skins to hire someone that is experienced as a head coach.

I don't care for most of our personnel and we don't have quality depth. We have decent running backs, 2 decent but streaky and oft injured receivers, a great tight end, a OK at best O line, a poor D line, OK line backers and secondary. We don't scare anyone with our personnel. So, let's go West Coast Offense and get some speed and size. How about a tall procession receiver? Anybody has got to be better than Brandon Lloyd. How about some D line members who can rush the QB? How about some young depth at O Line? Right now, we only have Steven Heyer and Todd Yoder. Everyone else is too old.

As I don't see our ownership changing and it doesn't appear as we will get a good personnel evaluator such as Ron Wolfe as our GM, we can't change much.
As such, I do not see how someone with no previous pro head coaching can be successful. Spurrier was a real bust. He had no idea on how to run a pro team. Norv was told who to play - Jeff George over Brad Johnson, etc.

I say welcome Jim Fassel, who I believe can work effectively with the current regime and institute change and eventually be successful. Who else can flourish with the Danny and Vinny in charge? If Gibbs couldn't do it, can anyone?

Neil

Posted by: neil64 | February 7, 2008 5:51 PM | Report abuse

I'm just disgusted with this team. Should of just keep everything intact. Until B. Cohwer was ready to coach again. I would of love to see T. Collins run the offense for a whole year with a real number 1 reciever. No knock on S. Moss. I love Moss not happy that he gave up on that last int by T. Collins in the playoffs. The Redskins were on the the verge of have a better year in 2008/2009. Thanks numbnuts for taking that away from us.

Posted by: prjay120 | February 7, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Last I checked, isn't the HC supposed to pick his own OC and DC - not the other way around?

Posted by: 2greekdc | February 7, 2008 5:54 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Snyder would be better served by first hiring a top notch General Manager who in turn could hire a top notch coaching staff. The idea of hiring the assistants first and then "hoping" a perspective head coach would be OK with it is ridiculous.

At this rate, Snyder will surpass Al Davis in the head coach hiring and firing Grand Prix. They can then share top honors in the Football owners Hall of Shame.

C'mon Danny, get a clue!

GS

Posted by: greggsol | February 7, 2008 6:01 PM | Report abuse

Let's give Danny a clipboard and have him coach for a couple years.

Posted by: rcwkent | February 7, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

We are going to make history, it will be bigger than the Pats lose, the owner is going to coach the skins. this will be a first for the NFL.

Posted by: kreed2 | February 7, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Forget about who is hired as head coach -- it will not make a difference as long as the Redskin front office remains as dysfunctional as it is. How about the 3rd round draft choice wasted on AJ Dunkett who became a free agent the following year, the 3 and 4 round choices wasted to obtain Brandon Lloyd, letting Antonio Pierce leave as a free agent, signing Archuleta and K. Wright while letting Clark and W. Harris go, etc. etc. Without a strong General Manager like Jerry Rease of the Giants, the Skins will be lucky to win 8 games next year no matter who is the head coach.

Posted by: dh110713 | February 7, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse

can we all just get along

Posted by: kreed2 | February 7, 2008 6:21 PM | Report abuse

Rumor has it, Snyder wasn't serious about hiring Spags anyway. He just wanted to see what info he could get out of him about his coaching strategy. I think Fassel has already been told he is getting the job & it's all a ploy. Why else would he have already hired the A.C.s? Most likely they were hand-picked by Fassel. What a mess.
Or......Snyder is screwing with things so much that Gibbs will get frustrated and then come back.

Posted by: scpaintz | February 7, 2008 6:21 PM | Report abuse

redskins LOOOOOOSERS

Posted by: confederate-son2002 | February 7, 2008 6:26 PM | Report abuse

lay off the owner, he pusts his pants on just like the rest of men and we should be happy that we have an owner that can spend so much for his team. he will make the best decision, and choice for the team and for every fan that dont see it that way, dont try to get tickets when the Redskins are playing in the SuperBowl.

Posted by: kreed2 | February 7, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse


go Skins

Posted by: kreed2 | February 7, 2008 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Didn't think Spags was going to sign up for the Danny show. Word is that Billick has a shot now.

Posted by: jckavanagh | February 7, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse

i beleive that the next redskin coach will be................drum roll, please......................

pause


Joe theisman

Posted by: kreed2 | February 7, 2008 6:35 PM | Report abuse

Profootballtalk.com is reporting that Redskins One is on its way to Arizona to pick up Fizzle. It looks like ten more years in the wilderness for the Redskins. I look forward to seasons of mediocrity filled with 6 and 10 records with the occasional 8 and 8 sprinkled in. Why didn't Jack Kent Cooke leave enough money to his son to buy the team? Why, dear God, are we stuck with this loser Scientologist dotcom millionaire Napoleon complex wannabe running this great franchise?

Posted by: fcknutz | February 7, 2008 6:37 PM | Report abuse

as long as the owner pick someone who is not one sho short of a pair like that Britnney chick we will be allright in my book

Posted by: kreed2 | February 7, 2008 6:37 PM | Report abuse

the plane could be going there to get some of the pieces of the Pats that the Giants left on the field, i heard it was the responsibility of all the teams to clean up that mess.

Posted by: kreed2 | February 7, 2008 6:41 PM | Report abuse

I love the NFC east and especially the Redskins.

Posted by: kreed2 | February 7, 2008 6:43 PM | Report abuse

we need new uniforms this year also

Posted by: kreed2 | February 7, 2008 6:45 PM | Report abuse

To all you folks still living in the 1980s:

Somebody like Cowher is not coming here given the current state of the ownership and front office. Its bush league.

Neil 64 had it right on Fassel. At least he won the division a couple times and went to Super Bowl in seven years in NY.

When is last time the skins did that? Never better than 10-6 (just twice) in the past 16 years. Many forgettable seasons with high-profile hires such as Spurrier, and Gibbs 2.

Going with an unconvential or unpopular choice could do no worse.


Posted by: loux23 | February 7, 2008 7:12 PM | Report abuse

lay off the owner, he pusts his pants on just like the rest of men and we should be happy that we have an owner that can spend so much for his team. he will make the best decision, and choice for the team and for every fan that dont see it that way, dont try to get tickets when the Redskins are playing in the SuperBowl.

Posted by: kreed2 | February 7, 2008 06:28 PM

Oh yeah, like all the SB tickets I've tried to get since Danny-boy has been the owner. Sheesh. It really bugs me when Vinny starts blogging.

Posted by: kickinblonde | February 7, 2008 7:12 PM | Report abuse

You guys are the greatest! Knowledgeable, funny and sardonic. Redskins fans are the best.

We'll weather the storm. It may take a long time until Danny decides to cash in and pocket his capital gains and sell the team, but some day the Skins will return to the glory days.

Hail to the Redskins! The owner: not so much.

Posted by: piovino1 | February 7, 2008 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Hey! I'd welcome Joe Theissman! John Riggins, Joe Bugel, Darrell Greeen! Just don't bring in a proven loser like Fassel! I'd like to lose for a year or two under some who is "family" than lose with a perinial loser from the outside!

Posted by: kb_nash | February 7, 2008 7:24 PM | Report abuse


At this point, the fans would like to part ways with Dan Snyder. We feel that that Dan Snyder is not ready to run a professional team. He needs a few decades of "seasoning" before he is considered qualified to run this team.

Posted by: FireSnyder | February 7, 2008 7:29 PM | Report abuse


Spags turns down Snyder!

Posted by: FireSnyder | February 7, 2008 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Hey, here is a forgotten phase of this circus our team is going through..How about the players,the team, the exsiting personnel of 2007?!!
You all think they're going to respond in a positive fashion to whomever takes over?
If we, as fans feel like this, can anyone imagine what the players feel.
Attitiudes and ego along with dismal memories of one of the greatest players past, on are still with them!
What's next? A new regime of coaches(having no ties or feelings) in this sensitive matter, coming in to pick up the pieces(if you will)of an organization that can't get out of it's own way! Uncertain if they'll play or start, thier comradery blown to bits because of Joe Gibbs departure, Williams/Saunders fireing and right in the middle of this rat maze,head coach finding game, no one has mentioned them!
Crap! I didn't even realize this until now but when the HC is put into place, how many of our remaining stars are going to want to play for this organization?
I see Clinton wanting out and that is where the ball will start rolling! There isn't enough leadership amungst the players for everyone not to follow his(Clintons) lead!
Then what? Chris Cooley leaves too? People,let me tell you this..i may be off on the aforementioned personnel but this is going to get so much uglier then trying to find the right fitting coach!
Thanks Dan, your money personifies exactly what the bible defines it..THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL. Way to go beelzebub, you came, you saw and you destructed! Not just your alleged beloved team, now the rippling effects are with us...The fans!
Your a parasite Danny boy and your boy Vinney is nothing more then an amoeba!
Stick that in your pocket and spend it,J/O

Posted by: briannalynn21 | February 7, 2008 11:59 PM | Report abuse

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