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Graham Gano faces night of trials

Following Sunday's loss, kicker Graham Gano's offering on his Twitter account was short and simple: "James 1:2-3," he wrote.

The Bible verse -- "Consider it pure joy, my brothers, whenever you face trials of many kinds," reads the New International Version, "because you know that the testing of your faith develops perseverance" -- was fitting after a tough loss for the second-year kicker.

Gano had a chance to win Sunday's game in overtime. In fact, for a second, it looked as though he had. On their lone possession of the extra period, the Redskins reached the Houston 34-yard line. Gano, who'd already hit field goals of 41 and 27 yards, trotted out and kicked a 52-yarder through the uprights. The kick was so strong, it might've been good from 60 yards out.

But just before the snap, Houston coach Gary Kubiak had called a timeout.

"It's fine, you know, it's the way it is," Gano said of the icing. "It's fine."

After the timeout, Gano's second kick sailed wide right.

"The operation was good," he said of the second attempt. "I felt real good about the first one, hit the first one real well. I think maybe I got a little more relaxed on the second one. I thought I was going to make it. Maybe next time not relax as much."The Texans took over possession on their own 42-yard line and their ensuing drive ended with a 35-yard game-winning field goal off the foot of Neil Rackers.

The Redskins' special teams had a chance to make it a two-possession game on another field goal attempt midway through the fourth quarter. It was a 29-yard attempt that was blocked by Houston's Bernard Pollard, who appeared to blow past Fred Davis on the line.

"I don't know. The operation felt good," Gano said of the block. "That's something we'll see tomorrow in film. We'll do better next time."

By Rick Maese  | September 19, 2010; 9:45 PM ET
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I can't blame him... although that second kick was ugly. Too bad for him, he missed a chance to be the hero..

it would've been truly amazing if he hit on it the second time too.

Posted by: rachel216 | September 19, 2010 9:52 PM | Report abuse

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Hey all, I was at the game and didn't realize we averaged 1.1 yards per carry? Crazy. Other than that, how did we look? It seemed like injuries were a factor late in the game.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | September 19, 2010 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: RomoLongballs | September 19, 2010 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Whatevs, Dallass is 0-2. So we got that going for us.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | September 19, 2010 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Well, the Colts are absolutely handling the Giants, so we'll still be first in the division.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | September 19, 2010 9:56 PM | Report abuse

24-0 at half. If this holds, Skins in first place on tiebreakers.
This division is winnable.

BUT Redskins need to execute flawlessly. They have no margin for failing to make special teams blocks and jumping offsides.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | September 19, 2010 9:57 PM | Report abuse


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One things for sure, the Redskins have no depth to speak of, let alone their weakness at certain positions. That said, we couldn't drive 92 yards for a TD last year. Small steps, big returns.

Posted by: hessone | September 19, 2010 9:58 PM | Report abuse

Hey... if Heyer didn't hold, if we had more than 3 yards rushing though three quarters, if the defense could cover anyone... the missed FG would be moot point.

Posted by: Redskinrex | September 19, 2010 10:00 PM | Report abuse


Wasn't it Shanahan who started icing kickers with the timeout right before the snap ? If so, it came back to bite his ass.

Posted by: hessone | September 19, 2010 10:01 PM | Report abuse

KMoore41 needs to get back on the field.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | September 19, 2010 10:02 PM | Report abuse

romolongballs: how did we look? Passing game was fantastic. I do wish we had better recievers though. God bless Joey Galloway but he is an old man. I wanted better effort on that long bomb..maybe if he was quicker it would've been a TD. Running game was non-existant and LJ is an embarrassment. Defense was KILLED in the second half.. we all know how that went. Recievers left wide open for some reason... lots of missed opportunities at INTs. Laron is agressive but can be too agressive sometimes. Reed had a pick and Laron ran into him. sh**.

Biggest play in my opinion was Fred Davis not getting to Pollard and letting him block that kick. He didn't need to "block" him, just nudge him enough that he couldn't get there. We got a 10 point lead instead of 7 and we most likely win in regulation.

Oh well, I hate saying "we gave it a good fight" because we literally gave this game away... or Kubiak stole it away from us. Regroup and get the Rams next week. I think we're going to be okay.

Posted by: rachel216 | September 19, 2010 10:05 PM | Report abuse

RomoLongballs the Skin's passing offense looked very good, their pass defense not so. Their rushing defense was good, their rush offense not so. They need another true FS, center, pass rush specialist, and a decent backup LT to be more than an average team this year.

Posted by: TWISI | September 19, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse

Lost in all this hoo-hah is the fact that Carlos Rogers actually caught an interception.

Posted by: Predator48 | September 19, 2010 10:11 PM | Report abuse

Lost in all this hoo-hah is the fact that Carlos Rogers actually caught an interception.

Posted by: Predator48 | September 19, 2010 10:11 PM |

A wasted miracle!

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 19, 2010 10:13 PM | Report abuse


Say it ain't so !

As Raiders kicker Sebastian Janikowski lined up for a game-winning attempt, Shanahan sidled up to an official on the sideline to tell him he was going to call a timeout. Then Shanahan waited until Janikowski looked up for the snap of the ball before calling it.

Because the call came from the sideline, the players did not realize there was a timeout until the ball had been snapped. Janikowski made the kick, but it was waved off. The rekick ricocheted off an upright, the Broncos eventually won the game and a fad was born.

Shanahan has never said how the tactic evolved, but it might have come from Colorado State Coach Sonny Lubick, a friend of his who last year successfully iced the Colorado kicker at the last second.

And Shanahan inspired Raiders Coach Lane Kiffin, who a week after Oakland lost to the Broncos, used the tactic to freeze Browns kicker Phil Dawson. The Raiders won the game.

“I learned that from Mike,” Kiffin said later. “Thanks, Mike.”

Posted by: hessone | September 19, 2010 10:15 PM | Report abuse

KMoore41 needs to get back on the field.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | September 19, 2010 10:02 PM

Need him back. When you can't get a pass rush that can create pressure w/o blitzing then you need your FS to have range. Reed doesn't have it. LL played great and then when he went down CH48 showed why he was lucky to make the 53 man roster.

I would have also liked to see more man coverage and less 2 deep zone but that was Haslett's call.

We also have an offseason needs list of OLB, 3-4 DEs, FS, C, RB, OG, OT, & WRs. Last year's coaching staff wouldn't have been competitive with this roster and yet we're 1-1.

Posted by: Diesel44 | September 19, 2010 10:15 PM | Report abuse

"24-0 at half. If this holds, Skins in first place on tiebreakers.
This division is winnable."

...Not with Heyer starting at Tackle. No way McNabb survives that. Then we're stuck with Heyer and Grossman. Ughhhh.

We had all off season to upgrade Heyer and failed. Now we have to deal with it.


Too bad Gano missed the second kick. I hate that rule. I think on FG's, the Time-Out has to be called by a player on the field. That BS of having the coach grabbing a ref and waiting for the last possible second is just crap.

Never liked it.

Anyway, the Skins are a lot more fun to watch this year- even when they lose.

Posted by: edvar | September 19, 2010 10:16 PM | Report abuse

Rachel, TWISI, thanks. I guess nothing we didn't already know. The timely pass and catch by the other team seems like a holdover from last year, along with the inability to run it when we need to. Hope it doesn't become a pattern. The solid run D is a very welcome surprise.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | September 19, 2010 10:16 PM | Report abuse

We also have an offseason needs list of OLB, 3-4 DEs, FS, C, RB, OG, OT, & WRs. Last year's coaching staff wouldn't have been competitive with this roster and yet we're 1-1.

Posted by: Diesel44 | September 19, 2010 10:15 PM | Report abuse

Easy does it, take your Xanax and get some rest. Last year's coaching staff would be 0-2 with a 50 point score differential. This is a much improved team that will be dangerous throughout the season.


Posted by: TheDirtySanchez | September 19, 2010 10:21 PM | Report abuse

Too bad Gano missed the second kick. I hate that rule. I think on FG's, the Time-Out has to be called by a player on the field. That BS of having the coach grabbing a ref and waiting for the last possible second is just crap.

Never liked it.

Anyway, the Skins are a lot more fun to watch this year- even when they lose.

Posted by: edvar

I don't like it either. It just seems cheap to lose like that. Icing is fine.. call the timeout before they line up. But once they line up, ball is snapped and the ball goes through the uprights... it should be over. But unfortunately Shanny did this often in denver so..

Posted by: rachel216 | September 19, 2010 10:22 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: hessone

well came back to bite us, didn't it? I still hate it though...

Posted by: rachel216 | September 19, 2010 10:24 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: TheDirtySanchez | September 19, 2010 10:21 PM

Thanks for validating my point. This is a flawed roster that is 1-1, and very competitive. Last year's regime would be 0-2.

Posted by: Diesel44 | September 19, 2010 10:24 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: TheDirtySanchez | September 19, 2010 10:21 PM

Thanks for validating my point. This is a flawed roster that is 1-1, and very competitive. Last year's regime would be 0-2.

Posted by: Diesel44 | September 19, 2010 10:24 PM | Report abuse

My bad.....we are of one mind!

Posted by: TheDirtySanchez | September 19, 2010 10:27 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for validating my point. This is a flawed roster that is 1-1, and very competitive. Last year's regime would be 0-2.

Posted by: Diesel44

As flawed as it may be.. this team should be 2-0...and that's remarkable. We have no run game and we were almost 2-0. (should be.) Unfortunately sometimes it's better to be lucky than good. Texans got lucky, we did not.

Posted by: rachel216 | September 19, 2010 10:27 PM | Report abuse


well came back to bite us, didn't it? I still hate it though...

Posted by: rachel216 | September 19, 2010 10:24 PM |

Me too rach. I agree with edvar that the players should call time outs.

Posted by: hessone | September 19, 2010 10:28 PM | Report abuse

My problem with the icing rule is the timing. The coach shouldn't be able to tell the ref to call a TO prior to the kick....He should have to call it himself.

When a TO is called it should be granted but to tell a Ref to call it for you is bogus.

Posted by: Diesel44 | September 19, 2010 10:28 PM | Report abuse

Tough loss for the Skins, but at the end of the day they will be tied for 1st and the Cowboys are DFL (Dead Freaking Last).

Posted by: Diesel44 | September 19, 2010 10:31 PM | Report abuse


Nice one 44, the Cowboy's play in the DFL, not the NFL ! LMAO

Posted by: hessone | September 19, 2010 10:33 PM | Report abuse

well came back to bite us, didn't it? I still hate it though...

Posted by: rachel216 | September 19, 2010 10:24 PM |

Me too rach. I agree with edvar that the players should call time outs.

Posted by: hessone | September 19, 2010 10:28 PM

If I could change the rule, it would be that only a player on the field can call a time out on a FG or EP attempt. And once the kicking team's line is down and set, no time-outs can be called.

You want to ice the guy, fine - but not micro-seconds before the snap. I think that's cheap.

My two cents...

Posted by: edvar | September 19, 2010 10:33 PM | Report abuse

I still don't understand why Devin Thomas isn't out there. He has to be faster than Galloway? He may have caught that second deep post ball?

Posted by: shanteefamilee | September 19, 2010 10:41 PM | Report abuse


DThomas gets a D- on kick returns today. As big a play as FDavis to the 1 yard line was, the guy cannot block, period. MKelly is on freakin $1M disability and the class of 2008 is looking more like a Cerrato/ Snyder bust, period.


Posted by: hessone | September 19, 2010 10:44 PM | Report abuse

Well kids, we have a long way to go before we are Super Bowl contenders but we are a lot closer than we were last year. Consistency is an issue but like I said before the season started it will take time to get all these new concepts down. I hate losing this way but hopefully a couple of lessons will be learned. Too bad we couldn't upgrade every position this offseason but that's the way things go. We have upgraded in many areas with many to go. Only gonna get better.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 19, 2010 10:46 PM | Report abuse

It's been over three hours now, and I still am ticked off:
with a 27-10 loss at home
3rd and 1 and we false start for a 3rd and 6
Then the FG attempt gets blocked
so we get nothing out of that drive.
IT would have put us up ten!

choked one a way this time.

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | September 19, 2010 10:46 PM | Report abuse

DT doesn't see the field because he doesn't do what it takes Monday - Saturday. Blame him and until he gets it, he will be nothing but a guy with potential.

Posted by: Diesel44 | September 19, 2010 10:49 PM | Report abuse

Concerned about T.Williams. Any words yet?

Posted by: bones21 | September 19, 2010 10:50 PM | Report abuse

I'm not concerned about Graham Gano. He's waaaaay down the list of things to worry about on this team.

Top of that list is our left tackle, our running game, our linebackers and coverage in the middle of the field... we scored touchdowns today and Donovan showed that he can work with the receiving corps we have. Plenty to like about this team.

I hate losing this game, but it was a hell of a game, wasn't it? And I think in the final accounting of the 2010 season, there will be little shame in losing a game to these Houston Texans, even if we "shoulda woulda coulda."

Posted by: NateinthePDX | September 19, 2010 10:51 PM | Report abuse

Concerned about T.Williams. Any words yet?

Posted by: bones21 | September 19, 2010 10:50 PM |

Initial indications are knee sprain and sore toe. MRI's coming.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 19, 2010 10:52 PM | Report abuse

Per Chris Russell of ESPN 980, it's a sprained knee.

The injury looked serious at first, but Williams was apparently standing on his own power after leaving the game.

Posted by: Diesel44 | September 19, 2010 10:52 PM | Report abuse

RedskinRay1: choke certainly is the word, unforunately. I do not like when people say their team gave the game away... but we DID give the game away. We shot ourselves in the foot. Yes, as bad as our defense played at times, we had the chance to go up by 10. One critcal mistake cost us big time. We don't get that blocked, we probably have a... 95% chance to win the game. Very tough one to swallow.

Posted by: rachel216 | September 19, 2010 10:52 PM | Report abuse

Well if the Skins do their part and beat the Rams next week, the game against the Iggles will be that more important.

Posted by: TWISI | September 19, 2010 10:53 PM | Report abuse


Concerned about T.Williams. Any words yet?

Posted by: bones21 | September 19, 2010 10:50 PM |

Redskins Coach Mike Shanahan said Williams would have an MRI exam to determine the extent of the injury. Williams said he was tested for a tear of his anterior cruciate ligament on the field and passed. He also left wearing a walking boot to protect his left toe.

Posted by: hessone | September 19, 2010 10:53 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: JFro | September 19, 2010 10:53 PM | Report abuse

Chad Clifton may be a $7.5 million backup

Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on September 19, 2010 9:06 PM ET

Green Bay benched left tackle Chad Clifton during Sunday's game for a combination of performance and health reasons. First round pick Bryan Bulaga came in and acquitted himself well. The switch could be permanent.

"[Clifton] didn't look good today so . . . He didn't look like he was healthy," coach Mike McCarthy said, via Greg Bedard of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel. "He struggled last week through the Philadelphia game. We'll assess it in the morning and set our plan for next week."

Clifton was paid huge money this offseason by the Packers in a move that looks panicked in retrospect, but made sense at the time. The Redskins were after Clifton and the team simply couldn't risk wasting the season without a decent blind side option.


So, there you go. Lot of guys up here were yammering to get Clifton and were in a funk when we didn't. "Skins are too cheap to go after this guy. He's the real deal."

Posted by: beep-beep | September 19, 2010 10:55 PM | Report abuse

Well, at least we won't have to hear from the Jason Campbell buy (PaBrian) this week. I would say the same about the Brandon Lloyd guy but I don't think he's very bright or even all there.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 19, 2010 10:59 PM | Report abuse


freakin payton manning


Posted by: hessone | September 19, 2010 11:00 PM | Report abuse

Who starts at LT Heyer or Brown?

Posted by: TWISI | September 19, 2010 11:05 PM | Report abuse

Brown...

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | September 19, 2010 11:07 PM | Report abuse

I am going to say this one more time: move Barnes to free safety. They need someone with some speed and coverage skills. Moore will be back but if he goes down again, I want to be assured that Doughty isn't playing free. He's just not athletic enough to drop back in deep coverage in the NFL. The dude has given up two big touchdowns this year and shouldn't be out there.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | September 19, 2010 11:08 PM | Report abuse

anyone notice how Soup got yanked by Cable for stinking up the joint and then Gradkowski came in and won the game for them?

pull a Loser, insert a Winner.

I've been watching the Raydas with special interest this year to see if Soup would flourish or remain his normal losing self and it didn't take long to show did it? LOL

the QB difference on our team is astounding with a real player under center.

at least they took Soup off our hands so we didn't have to cut him.

Posted by: greatteamdan | September 19, 2010 11:10 PM | Report abuse

Who starts at LT Heyer or Brown?

Posted by: TWISI | September 19, 2010 11:05 PM

I would think that JB goes to LT and Heyer plays RT.

TW was seen moving around after the game and reports have stated that he's passed most of the tests. Hopefully he won't miss any significant time because he has pro bowl potential and that could be this year.

Posted by: Diesel44 | September 19, 2010 11:12 PM | Report abuse

I agree that Brown would move to LT. Hopefully he'll be back by the Packers or Colts game. Skins will probably have to elevate an Olman off the PS. Calling danger Will Robinson.

Posted by: TWISI | September 19, 2010 11:20 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins lost today because hessone didn't give out enough blumpkins.

For next Sunday, hessone, you have to give out at least 100 blumpkins. That should cover the ones you didn't get to this week (that cost us the game) and cover the ones that should guarantee a victory over the lowly Rams.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | September 19, 2010 11:21 PM | Report abuse

icing the kicker goes back farther the Shanhan and definitely before Janikowski. used to be you could call two time outs in a row. remember Gibbs2.0 didn't know about the rule change. anywaywe went against a good team and fared well.Mc5 hit eight different receivers and the offense for the most part played to win instead of not to lose. by the time we hit mid season form hopefully we'll be in the thick of things. 10-6 or bust

Posted by: nflorida1 | September 19, 2010 11:38 PM | Report abuse

the QB difference on our team is astounding with a real player under center.

at least they took Soup off our hands so we didn't have to cut him.

Posted by: greatteamdan | September 19, 2010 11:10 PM

Yea, except he was a conditional pick so if he doesn't start/play a certain amount of games we get bupkis. Having said that we had bupkis with him so no biggie either way.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 19, 2010 11:41 PM | Report abuse

I am tired of people blaming only Doughty for the Johnson TD pass. We should never have left a safety one-on-one against the premier WR in the league. Buchanon gave up his coverage responsiblity on that play and let Johnson run right by him into the endzone. Doughty did his best to break up the pass and simply got beat by a more athletic player. I also saw Rogers getting beat on MANY passes this game. Why wasn't Johnson being double-teamed on every pass route instead of isolating Doughty with him in the end zone? Why weren't either Hall or Rogers covering on that play as opposed to Buchanon? You've got the best WR to cover and you leave your free safety alone to handle it? Nonsense. And I am still not sold on the 3-4. We DO NOT have the personnel to run it effectively. Why do Shanny/Haslett insist on forcing this down our throats? It's the height of coaching arrogance to do so. Andre Carter is playing out of position, so is Doughty who is much better at SS. (BTW - Laron Landry's over-aggressiveness cost Doughty a sure interception when Landry ran into Reed. Landry also nearly hurt Reed in an earlier play when he speared Reed in the ribs with his helmet. Give me a break, Laron, and stop hurting your own teammates!) Even that jerk, Hayneworth, is forced to play out of position. Makes no sense to me at all to stick with the 3-4 and it IS NOT working. Over 900 yds. given up in 2 games, both running and passing. By any stretch of the imagination, that is not successful. Yet Shanny's ego won't allow him to admit the 3-4 won't work with our personnel.

Posted by: teresae878 | September 19, 2010 11:47 PM | Report abuse

I am tired of people blaming only Doughty for the Johnson TD pass. We should never have left a safety one-on-one against the premier WR in the league. Buchanon gave up his coverage responsiblity on that play and let Johnson run right by him into the endzone. Doughty did his best to break up the pass and simply got beat by a more athletic player. I also saw Rogers getting beat on MANY passes this game. Why wasn't Johnson being double-teamed on every pass route instead of isolating Doughty with him in the end zone? Why weren't either Hall or Rogers covering on that play as opposed to Buchanon? You've got the best WR to cover and you leave your free safety alone to handle it? Nonsense. And I am still not sold on the 3-4. We DO NOT have the personnel to run it effectively. Why do Shanny/Haslett insist on forcing this down our throats? It's the height of coaching arrogance to do so. Andre Carter is playing out of position, so is Doughty who is much better at SS. (BTW - Laron Landry's over-aggressiveness cost Doughty a sure interception when Landry ran into Reed. Landry also nearly hurt Reed in an earlier play when he speared Reed in the ribs with his helmet. Give me a break, Laron, and stop hurting your own teammates!) Even that jerk, Hayneworth, is forced to play out of position. Makes no sense to me at all to stick with the 3-4 and it IS NOT working. Over 900 yds. given up in 2 games, both running and passing. By any stretch of the imagination, that is not successful. Yet Shanny's ego won't allow him to admit the 3-4 won't work with our personnel.

Posted by: teresae878 | September 19, 2010 11:48 PM | Report abuse

I am tired of people blaming only Doughty for the Johnson TD pass. We should never have left a safety one-on-one against the premier WR in the league. Buchanon gave up his coverage responsiblity on that play and let Johnson run right by him into the endzone. Doughty did his best to break up the pass and simply got beat by a more athletic player. I also saw Rogers getting beat on MANY passes this game. Why wasn't Johnson being double-teamed on every pass route instead of isolating Doughty with him in the end zone? Why weren't either Hall or Rogers covering on that play as opposed to Buchanon? You've got the best WR to cover and you leave your free safety alone to handle it? Nonsense. And I am still not sold on the 3-4. We DO NOT have the personnel to run it effectively. Why do Shanny/Haslett insist on forcing this down our throats? It's the height of coaching arrogance to do so. Andre Carter is playing out of position, so is Doughty who is much better at SS. (BTW - Laron Landry's over-aggressiveness cost Doughty a sure interception when Landry ran into Reed. Landry also nearly hurt Reed in an earlier play when he speared Reed in the ribs with his helmet. Give me a break, Laron, and stop hurting your own teammates!) Even that jerk, Hayneworth, is forced to play out of position. Makes no sense to me at all to stick with the 3-4 and it IS NOT working. Over 900 yds. given up in 2 games, both running and passing. By any stretch of the imagination, that is not successful. Yet Shanny's ego won't allow him to admit the 3-4 won't work with our personnel.

Posted by: teresae878 | September 19, 2010 11:48 PM | Report abuse

We have several posters here pointing out that the 'Skins are in first place on tie breakers - in...week...2. This is how far the franchise has fallen.

Posted by: josettes | September 19, 2010 11:56 PM | Report abuse

You know what I'm tired of teresae878? People HATING on Laron Landry. Yeah he knocked some of our guys out, so what? He's out there distributing punishment. If you don't want Landry to pop you then make the play. Everytime Landry came in and hit one of our guys it's because they couldn't make the tackle themselves or because he was ball-hawking. Without Landry this defense would be a complete mess. That guy is on a mission and at this level of play he is a top 5 safety in the game and a lock for the Pro Bowl.

Posted by: Imjustlikemusiq | September 20, 2010 12:02 AM | Report abuse

One bright spot in all this remains the remarkable turn-around of L Landry. The guy is playing awesome.

...and did you see Rogers interception? He almost dropped it - twice! It almost like he tried to drop it but couldn't. If it wasn't so sad, it would be funny.

Posted by: edvar | September 20, 2010 12:04 AM | Report abuse

We have several posters here pointing out that the 'Skins are in first place on tie breakers - in...week...2. This is how far the franchise has fallen.

Posted by: josettes | September 19, 2010 11:56 PM

And your contribution is what?

Posted by: Diesel44 | September 20, 2010 12:09 AM | Report abuse

My take ... an interesting and complex game. The outcome was very disappointing. Still, we played what I believe is a top NFL team -- a likely playoff team, on even terms.

The game will be dissected and there were plenty of flaws -- but I think 1 thing is clear after the last 2 weeks. We can play talented teams and compete with them.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | September 20, 2010 12:20 AM | Report abuse

but I think 1 thing is clear after the last 2 weeks. We can play talented teams and compete with them.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | September 20, 2010 12:20 AM |

Maybe, next week should be real telling. Can we put bad teams away convincingly. In the past we have played down to their level.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 20, 2010 12:24 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: edvar | September 20, 2010 12:04 AM

I'm going to gloat a little. I watched him for 3 years at LSU and knew what kind of SS safety he could be playing 10 yards off of the ball. He showed glimpses as a rookie but when 21's tragedy happened the former brain trust didn't use their best player in a position to succeed. Only problem with him excelling at SS is that we have a glaring hole at FS.

I've touted LL30's ability for the last 2 years and while I'm not surprised by his success there is a lot of people that need to open wide and eat some crow.

Posted by: Diesel44 | September 20, 2010 12:30 AM | Report abuse

I've touted LL30's ability for the last 2 years and while I'm not surprised by his success there is a lot of people that need to open wide and eat some crow.

Posted by: Diesel44 | September 20, 2010 12:30 AM

Already done it homie...2 weeks in a row...and happy to do it.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 20, 2010 12:35 AM | Report abuse

Imjustlikemusiq - I definitely don't hate Landry. Just think he needs to temper that aggressiveness when it affects our own players. Reed had an interception until Landry barrelled into him. Landry also hit Doughty's ribs with his helmet on an earlier play. None of it was on purpose, of course, but Landry still needs a bit of discipline. However, he is not our problem on the D. My biggest problem with the D is the 3-4 scheme. I just don't think this group of players can run it effectively. However, since neither Haslett nor Shanny will budge from it, we are stuck with it. I just find it ridiculous that so many want to blame one player, Doughty, when there are many problems with our Defense. Most of those problems, however, are due to players being forced to play positions to which they are not suited. Andre Carter is a case in point, so is Doughty who is a much more effective SS than FS. Even that jerk Haynesworth is being asked to play a position that wastes his natural talent to go after the QB. How can the coaches expect success, when they are not putting the players in the best position to showcase their talents? Again, this 3-4 scheme forces 11 square pegs into 11 round holes - a sure and predictable formula for disaster. And 900 yds given up in 2 games is the natural result of such coaching arrogance.

Posted by: teresae878 | September 20, 2010 12:36 AM | Report abuse

If we are going to lose a few, this one does the least damage...non conference and division L.

Heal up Silverback, beat STL and 2-1 sounds fine.


Posted by: WaitingGuilty | September 20, 2010 12:37 AM | Report abuse

For people who say we don't need haynesworth, just look at that game no pressure up the middle at all when the skins could have used it.

Posted by: Jmel1 | September 20, 2010 12:41 AM | Report abuse

I don't know what a blumpkin is.

I'm okay with that.

Heartbreaker today. By rights, we should have won it, but give Houston credit for being a good team. The Skins did some things very well, did some other things not so well.

Against Dallas, it looked like McNabb was only comfortable going to Moss and Cooley. Today he completed passes to eight different receivers. Last week Sellers looked like crap. Today he was dang sharp. And we were able to move the pile on the goal line twice today for TDs. That last item alone is marked improvement over the past few years, for sure.

The main thing sticking in my craw is that for the second week in a row, an O-lineman (Williams last week, Brown today) jumped offsides on 3rd & short and turned it into 3rd and long at a key moment of the game where a 1st down conversion could have gone a long way to sealing the game. Sometimes the other team will make plays against you, but unforced errors are killers.

We need KMoore back, like, yesterday.

But pissing and moaning isn't going to do much good, so the Skins will look at what went right, look at what went wrong, try to fix what went wrong, and improve next week.

Hope Trent Williams is able to go. We need ya, big boy.

We all knew this would be an up and down season, so gird yer freakin' loins, and be happy that so far, there's been more up than down.

Posted by: freakzilla | September 20, 2010 12:43 AM | Report abuse

scamp- I know you did it last week, you're always a stand up guy. Other peeps on here wanted him cut and the equivalent to playing LL30 at FS is playing a guy like 99 at OLB.

Or better yet......playing a backup SS/special teamer like RD37 at FS. We need Moore back and healthy.

Posted by: Diesel44 | September 20, 2010 12:44 AM | Report abuse

edvar: Laron seems to be one of the very few defensive players who appear to be thriving in this scheme. Many others appear confused, hesitant, you name it. Many have already said this, including me, but we DO NOT have the personnel to run the 3-4. And why these coaches insisted on this major shift is beyond me, especially since it is failing so badly. Yes, the 3-4 allows all sorts of innovations and yes we may get more sacks, but we are giving up HUGE chunks of yards and big, big plays both running and passing. That tells me that our players are not suited to implement the 3-4 and that we should have stuck with the 4-3. I am no fan of Haynesworth at all, but I'm beginning to sympathize with the guy's reluctance to take on the role that was dictated to him in the 3-4. In doing so, you are negating the very reason we supposedly got him in the first place - his amazing pass-rushing and ability to get to the QB.

Posted by: teresae878 | September 20, 2010 12:45 AM | Report abuse

For people who was saying we don't need haynesworth, look at this game no pressure up the middle at all late in the game.

Posted by: Jmel1 | September 20, 2010 12:45 AM | Report abuse

Takes time teresa. Personally I'm glad we're moving the defense into the modern era.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 20, 2010 12:51 AM | Report abuse

scampbell1975: We were fine as a 4-3 with Greg Williams. More than fine, actually. Blache's system was horribly vanilla and unaggressive. But the 3-4 with this group of guys is just not working. Granted, the Texan QB is very, very good so you would expect the Texans to move the ball and score. But to allow over 500 yds of offense???? And though Dallas didn't score much at all, they moved the ball up and down the field on this D. The only thing that stopped them was their own stupid mistakes. This defensive scheme is resulting in huge gains by the opponents, big plays and, today, lots of scoring. Good coaches design systems around their players' talents. They don't force their own system onto players who are much better off playing in a 4-3. Shanny has always been an acknowledged offensive genius, but not good at all in designing defenses. His team's poor defensive play was why he was booted out of Denver. We are seeing the same results with the Skins and it's scary. I don't think any offensive lead is safe as long as we insist on playing the 3-4 defense.

Posted by: teresae878 | September 20, 2010 1:05 AM | Report abuse

Shanny has always been an acknowledged offensive genius, but not good at all in designing defenses. His team's poor defensive play was why he was booted out of Denver. We are seeing the same results with the Skins and it's scary. I don't think any offensive lead is safe as long as we insist on playing the 3-4 defense.

Posted by: teresae878 | September 20, 2010 1:05 AM

This is Haslett's defense and the players will change over the next couple of years to fit a defense that is much more flexible than a 4-3. I understand your concerns and you're not wrong but I believe this will make the team better in the long run. JMHO

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 20, 2010 1:09 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: teresae878 | September 20, 2010 1:05 AM

The personnel isn't there but we were an 86's lazy block on a FG from being 2-0. I'm glad we made the switch, we are probably 2 years away from the right personnel but we will improve and be better for the switch.

Oh and F 92...he would have made no difference even if he was healthy.

Posted by: Diesel44 | September 20, 2010 1:12 AM | Report abuse

Diesel44,
Thanks for asking for my contribution. I won't make you wait any longer, I know you have to get to bed.

I'd say that in comparing this 'Skins team to last year's team, last year's team would have lost this Texans game.

Posted by: josettes | September 20, 2010 1:19 AM | Report abuse

Night all...
...HAIL!!!

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 20, 2010 1:26 AM | Report abuse

scambell1975: So we need to be patient for a couple more years? Sorry, but I'm not willing to do that. And I disagree that it's solely Haslett's defense. It was Shanny who gave the go-ahead to switch to a 3-4. That would be fine, if and when you have the players to implement it. It's sheer lunacy to do so now, when we clearly do not. Everyone keeps on saying -When will K. Moore return? As if his return is the Second Coming and will miraculously plug all the defensive holes. Talk about wishful thinking! Maybe if he were Sean Taylor that would be believable, but he's not. Still, it's an easy and convenient excuse for fans who want desperately to believe that it's just one player that is the problem on Defense, when it goes much deeper than that.

Posted by: teresae878 | September 20, 2010 1:31 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: josettes | September 20, 2010 1:19 AM

Great insight. We are greatful for your contribution.

Now go cuddle up beside your overweight average looking wife.

Posted by: Diesel44 | September 20, 2010 1:31 AM | Report abuse

The only consolation in all of this is that the NFC East appears wide open. Dallas is struggling badly and the Giants lost today too. Even the Eagles barely held onto their win, with 35 points. The division lead is up for grabs, so let's hope the Skins are up to the challenge. Another good thing is that, if we had to lose, it's best to an out-of-division, out-of-conference team like the Texans. But, we have to win next week and get back on track. And we'd all better say a prayer that McNabb stays healthy!!

Posted by: teresae878 | September 20, 2010 1:37 AM | Report abuse

Fred Davis lost this game for failing to block on the field goal that would have sealed the win. When the coaches see that film, they ought ot be all over his butt for that play. He gave no effort.

Posted by: sruppert | September 20, 2010 8:29 AM | Report abuse

sruppert: Very, very true about Davis on that blocked FG. It appeared that all he did was try and swat the defender with his hand. Disgusting lack of effort. For all the criticism he is receiving, at least Doughty made the maximum effort he could in trying to break up the pass to Johnson. And why did Philip Buchanon simply give up his coverage responsibilities on that play and let A. Johnson run right past him into the end zone? For that matter, why was our backup CB the one responsible for covering Johnson at all? Should have been either Rogers or Hall. There is plenty of shared blame for this loss, including some of the play-calling and decision-making by the coaches.

Posted by: teresae878 | September 20, 2010 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Agree This was all on Fred Davis. If he even makes a minor attempt at blocking at the FG we are up by 10 and win this game. I hope the coaching staff really lay in to him.

As far as the defense goes , Doughty and the rest of the secondary(except for Landry) have been terrible. We really need to upgrade at FS. On the other hand though we have gone up against two great offenses with a lot of weapons. Watch with teh defense does next week feasting on the rams and a rookie QB.

As far as the offense Mcnabb looks awesome. How many throws did he make yesterday that made you think, JC woudl have never been able to do that? He is confident and already the leader of the offense. I love his fire. The guy is a winner. Which is great to have after 4 years of watching a loser. It looks like the Raiders have already fugured that out.

Posted by: thegreatgrexican | September 20, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

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