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Redskins sign Hunter Smith to punt Sunday

Josh Bidwell said last week that he had overcome a recent injury and he punted for the Redskins in their win Sunday over Philadelphia. But the team will have a new punter at Redskins Park Thursday.

Washington is expected to sign Hunter Smith, who appeared in 13 games for the Redskins in 2009, to a one-year deal Thursday morning and Smith will be the team's punter Sunday against Green Bay, according to a league source.

The Redskins already have a full 53-man roster, so it is likely they will drop someone to make room for Smith. It seems very doubtful that they would carry two punters.

Bidwell did not practice Wednesday and no explanation was offered by Redskins Coach Mike Shanahan. Bidwell hurt his hip during pre-game warmups at St. Louis on Sept. 26. An MRI last week revealed no structural damage, he said, and he hoped the injury was simply the loosening of scar tissue.

Bidwell punted five times at Philadelphia last Sunday, averaging 37.2 yards per punt and placing one inside the 20-yard line.

Smith, 33, was originally signed by the Redskins as a free agent prior to the 2009 season. He averaged 41.3 yards per punt, placing 23 inside the 20-yard line.

After finishing worst in the league in punting in 2008, the Redskins had a top unit during the 2009 season. Smith had the highest net average (36.8 yards) of a Redskins punter in 10 seasons and played a key role in the improvement of the coverage team via effective hang time.

Washington allowed no punts to be blocked. Smith rushed for one touchdown and passed for another.

By Rick Maese  | October 6, 2010; 5:48 PM ET
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Comments

Welcome back Hunter!

Posted by: Rypien11 | October 6, 2010 5:53 PM | Report abuse

he can bring the swinging gate back!

Posted by: hcic55 | October 6, 2010 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Welcome back Hunter the Punter. We missed you dearly as Josh Bidwell became Sir Shanks-A-Lot on a level that we hadn't seen since the legendary Durant Brooks. Our offense regains its key scoring threat from last year.

Posted by: Crunkenstein | October 6, 2010 5:56 PM | Report abuse

"Smith rushed for one touchdown...."


The 'punter' thing is just a ruse! He's going to be the new back-up RB!

Posted by: 4-12 | October 6, 2010 6:00 PM | Report abuse

never understood why we created a problem when there wasnt one and let Hunter go. Good riddance Bidwell.....

Posted by: chrislarry | October 6, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse

Definitely can't please all people, Franco, that's for sure.

If you really want to get the wife back, start eating boiled eggwhites as a way to increase protein intake (try eating 10 a day or so).

Those farts will make the wife want to sleep outside in the shed if you get her with a dutch oven a few times.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 6, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse

never understood why we created a problem when there wasnt one and let Hunter go. Good riddance Bidwell.....

Posted by: chrislarry | October 6, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse


"we"? "we" did not create a problem.

"Shanahan" created the problem. Kudos to Shanny for making amends on bad personnel decisions.

Hopefully he's finding his groove as a personnel-guy, and in the future we can get our roster set at the end of preseason, as opposed to Week 4.

Posted by: p1funk | October 6, 2010 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Is an aging Clinton Portis finished with the Redskins?

Did you know that Portis and Campbell were born within months of each other in the small Miss hamlet of Laurel?

Posted by: FrancoBegbie | October 6, 2010 6:08 PM | Report abuse

never understood why we created a problem when there wasnt one and let Hunter go. Good riddance Bidwell.....

Posted by: chrislarry | October 6, 2010 6:01 PM |

Bidwell is the scion of Arizona Cardinal ownership.

Posted by: FrancoBegbie | October 6, 2010 6:14 PM | Report abuse

never understood why we created a problem when there wasnt one and let Hunter go. Good riddance Bidwell.....

Posted by: chrislarry | October 6, 2010 6:01 PM


Agreed...I'll never get why they didn't keep Hunter the Punter and The Red Snapper. Besides having great nicknames, they both played very well for us.

Hate to see Portis down for as long as he is. Hopefully he's back after the bye week...and Torain entrenches himself as the primary ballcarrier in the meantime.

Oh, and fingers crossed on TWill...we're gonna need him this week with that beast Clay Matthews on deck...

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 6, 2010 6:17 PM | Report abuse

Is an aging Clinton Portis finished with the Redskins?

Do woodchucks chuck wood?

Posted by: FrancoBegbie | October 6, 2010 6:17 PM | Report abuse

I never understood either why they let Smith go, after he had such a great season in 2009. Not just the touchdowns, he did a very solid job of punting. I'm really surprised some other team didn't pick him up.

Josh Bidwell has been nothing short of disastrous.

Posted by: SkinsfaninNebraska | October 6, 2010 6:21 PM | Report abuse

we're gonna need him this week with that beast Clay Matthews on deck...

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 6, 2010 6:17 PM |

Is it holding if you grab his hair and play "Crack The Whip" with him?

Posted by: FrancoBegbie | October 6, 2010 6:23 PM | Report abuse

if there is one thing p1funk is good at is parsing words for lame jokes/observations..........

using the royal "fan" we....duh....

Posted by: chrislarry | October 6, 2010 6:28 PM | Report abuse

moe, MLynch was traded to the Seahawks yesterday. He's not available.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | October 6, 2010 6:28 PM | Report abuse

moe, MLynch was traded to the Seahawks yesterday. He's likely not available.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | October 6, 2010 6:32 PM | Report abuse

Nice! Good punter, and if it's possible for any punter to be called a scoring threat, it's him.

Posted by: freakzilla | October 6, 2010 6:35 PM | Report abuse

ZEKE’S UNIQUE PERSPECTIVES brought to you by the great people at Yahoo!

I couldn’t gloss over the week 3 loss and I don’t want to gloss over the big week 4 win. But I will -- except to say that it was extra great to see Donovan walk off THAT FILED with a W.

Today, I look at where our success will come from in 2010.

The 2 games we played in the NFC East were played in NFC East style. We won them both. Gritty and hard hitting, with few plays that saw guys open in space. Neither game required fancy blitz packages, both romo and kolb threw quick, short passes. Solid defense behind the DL was more critical than hits on the QB. On offense, few mistakes. McNabb completed less than half his throws in each win.

The Redskin Insider folks talked about blitzes and airing it out vs GB. They are wrong. Forget Halsett’s fancy blitzes, at least most of the time.

Our key guy is Brian Orakpo. He is the team’s MVP and may be the best player in the NFC East. He is unblockable on the line, which is where he needs to be. Every time I focus on Orakpo pass rushing, someone has a fistful of his jersey. If I’m Shanahan, I send film on Orakpo each week to the league so they can see how often he is held. We need to get more of those calls (Steinberg’s Bog has more on this).

Orakpo alone doesn’t get us over the top. The second guy is Albert. He drew a hold on the play vick got hurt. Instead of 1st and goal, philly had to kick a 50yd FG. It changed the game. If AH92 plays like a beast, our defense becomes elite. Our best 3-4 looks a lot like a 4-3. Use a 3-4 and put Orakpo over the weakest link. Orakpo + Albert can consume 4 blockers on a play. Opponents will need to keep a TE and perhaps an RB in. Even if the extra blocking buys some time, there won’t be much space to throw it in with 7 defenders (playing physical) and just 3 guys to cover.

This is classic NFC East football. We hoped Shanahan + McNabb would open up the offense and create a more explosive style. That Haslett’s aggressive approach would create big plays on defense. But grinding it out works for this team.

Except … we must do better controlling the ball. In each game, the other team ran more plays. vs dal 71-56, Hou 81-58, StL 75-50 and phil 68-55. More plays have been run against us than any other team -- the reason we’re next to worst in yards allowed (yds/play rank: 20). Only 3 teams average fewer offensive plays/game. The league avg is 63 plays/game. Neither our O or D has been on the right side of that number this season. Based on league averages, our D has played the equivalent of 4.8 games, our O, 3.7 games.

Rush 4 or less and count on Orakpo + Albert to win the battle up front. The offense needs to milk the clock and not lose games. The defense needs to win games, but must be on the field less. That is our formula for success in 2010.

That’s a wrap on ZEKE’S UNIQUE PERSPECTIVES, brought to you by Yahoo!’s finest.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | October 6, 2010 6:36 PM | Report abuse

That’s a wrap on ZEKE’S UNIQUE PERSPECTIVES, brought to you by Yahoo!’s finest.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | October 6, 2010 6:36 PM |

BTW dude this stuff is a crock. What does Yahoo! have to do with it? Are you an employee or an agent of theirs?

Posted by: FrancoBegbie | October 6, 2010 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Yahoo sucks anyway, people still are using yahoo?

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 6, 2010 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Zeke, I like your perspectives. You have a better handle on things than the coaching staff.

I suspect they let Bidwell punt last week so they could cut him and not have to pay the remainder of his contract. He should have been put on IR, but he said he was healthy, so now he can't claim an injury settlement. Anway, we were damn lucky the Giants didn't sign Hunter, as he worked out for them this week.

Posted by: Iamhumongous | October 6, 2010 7:09 PM | Report abuse

I'm still wishing they'd throw Barker some love. Man, that pig nose was DISGUSTING. Tough dude. I don't care if you can punt, you need some recompense for leaving your nose on the field.

Posted by: WorstSeat | October 6, 2010 7:12 PM | Report abuse

Bob Barker could probably punt better than Bidwell.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 6, 2010 7:17 PM | Report abuse

It seems very doubtful that they would carry two punters.
________________________

So you're tellin me keeping a gimpy, worthless 34 yr old punter isn't worth it??? This is an outrage.

See ya Josh. Don't let the door hit your trick hip on the way out

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | October 6, 2010 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Thank goodness. Welcome back Hunter the punter.

Posted by: JulzDC | October 6, 2010 7:23 PM | Report abuse

Way to get rid of Bidwell before he costs us another game.

Posted by: skins91r | October 6, 2010 7:29 PM | Report abuse

We love bringing guys of the street, off IR, and off practice squads and then starting them!

That's a winning formula!

Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 6, 2010 7:29 PM | Report abuse

So Torain starts but what of the guy I predicted would be right behind a healthy Portis, Chad simpson? I have not read ne thing. NE one know what he looks like in practice? has he picked up the system and the plays? I know he may return kick offs too, but he's quick and I think he fits MS's scheme perfectly!

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | October 6, 2010 7:30 PM | Report abuse

We love bringing guys of the street, off IR, and off practice squads and then starting them!

That's a winning formula!

Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 6, 2010 7:29 PM | Report abuse

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It worked pretty well with Torain.

Posted by: skins91r | October 6, 2010 7:31 PM | Report abuse

Ladies and Gentlemen, please give a warm welcome to your 2010 Washington Rentals...

Starting at Quarterback...

Posted by: Vic1 | October 6, 2010 7:33 PM | Report abuse

Out of all the "experts" and regular fans or whatever who usually post comments here, I think Poopy_McPoop is probably the best!

Posted by: keywester-va | October 6, 2010 7:35 PM | Report abuse


keywester-va

damn dude, how many handles do you have ? barno1 busted you over on the bog. if barno has your number, don't you think most posters do ?

Posted by: hessone | October 6, 2010 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Who is Chad Simpson anyway?

Posted by: dcsween | October 6, 2010 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Also, I just don't understand how they could possibly re-sign an aging Hunter Smith when Derrick Frost is out there and available.

Posted by: dcsween | October 6, 2010 7:55 PM | Report abuse

chad simpson is a rb picked up recently.. short, stocky and quick one cut and go type guy. what was i thinking ri might have something on him in light of cp going down? wapo will let all real reporters tell the story, then copy and paste it per usual two days later. terrible source for "insider" news.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | October 6, 2010 7:59 PM | Report abuse

1965, I knew he was a recent pickup ... I just didn't know why they thought he was better than Keiland Williams.

Posted by: dcsween | October 6, 2010 8:07 PM | Report abuse

They're releasing Bidwell??? What? No explanation? He had a couple awesome preseason games (that I never saw) and now he's kicked to the curb? He could be the next Ray Guy. WTF? Shanahan's ego is out of control! Bidwell is going to punt all over us some time down the road. We'll regret this move for sure!

Posted by: mack1 | October 6, 2010 8:10 PM | Report abuse

We love bringing guys of the street, off IR, and off practice squads and then starting them!

That's a winning formula!

Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 6, 2010 7:29 PM

I know you're having a tough time with the JC trade and now with CP26's career as a Redskins all but finished. So, I'll continue to tell you...root for the TEAM because players come and go and when they do there is no reason to act like a scorned 13 yr old girl.

Also:

IR means the player is done for the year..
Who was brought off the street and started?
Torain is starting because CP got hurt, again.
and Riggins will remain the skins all-time leading rusher.

You and beantowngreg sound like two teenage girls crying because one of those twilight dorks was killed in one of their latest stupid movies.

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 6, 2010 8:17 PM | Report abuse

Glad to see they addressed the punter situation. Bidwell was awful last week and it would have hurt to watch him shank his way through another game. Not sure what happened to Bidwell. Maybe he got Danny Smith-itis, a common affliction that many a punter has suffered from. Fortunately for us, Hunter Smith seems to be immune.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | October 6, 2010 8:21 PM | Report abuse

I suspect they let Bidwell punt last week so they could cut him and not have to pay the remainder of his contract. He should have been put on IR, but he said he was healthy, so now he can't claim an injury settlement.

Posted by: Iamhumongous | October 6, 2010 7:09 PM

No, your suspicion is wrong. The Redskins have to pay the salary for every player who was on their opening day roster. So, unless Bidwell gets picked up somewhere, he'll get 12 more checks from the Redskins.

Posted by: beep-beep | October 6, 2010 8:22 PM | Report abuse

Also, I just don't understand how they could possibly re-sign an aging Hunter Smith when Derrick Frost is out there and available.

Posted by: dcsween | October 6, 2010 7:55 PM |

MS is having enough issues with Derrick Dock. All he needs now is another Derrick to Frost his balls.

Posted by: FrancoBegbie | October 6, 2010 8:23 PM | Report abuse

Who is Chad Simpson anyway?

Posted by: dcsween | October 6, 2010 7:53 PM
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He's a running back that was primarily used as a kick returner at Indy. Indy released him and now we have him. He has pretty much been a kick returner for his career with only a few carries on offense, but the dude is fast and might be a surprising change of pace back. After hearing that DT was on the trading block, I am speculating that Simpson was signed to take DT's place at kick returner. That's why it wouldn't surprise me if, having not been able to find a trade partner, Washington cuts DT this week...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | October 6, 2010 8:26 PM | Report abuse

lol mack1…rabble! rabble! rabble! rabble!

Posted by: RomoLongballs | October 6, 2010 8:29 PM | Report abuse

RSH- "Not sure what happened to Bidwell."

Bidwell made the pro bowl in 2006 for TB. So he had ties with BA and was a quality punter until he had a hip injury and missed the whole 2009 season. He reinjured the same hip and should have been cut last week.

I wonder what Durant Brooks is up to?

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 6, 2010 8:30 PM | Report abuse

If Shanahan wants to trade DT, he has to at least give other teams a taste of what they will be getting....PLAY DT AT WR, if you do, you may decide to keep him

Posted by: kingpenn1 | October 6, 2010 8:31 PM | Report abuse

If Shanahan wants to trade DT, he has to at least give other teams a taste of what they will be getting....PLAY DT AT WR, if you do, you may decide to keep him

Posted by: kingpenn1 | October 6, 2010 8:31 PM

He started ten games last year. Everyone has had a taste. No one is asking for seconds.

Posted by: beep-beep | October 6, 2010 8:37 PM | Report abuse

... and Riggins will remain the skins all-time leading rusher.

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 6, 2010 8:17 PM |

Dude - and I'll bet you breathed a sigh of relief. Not very fun thinking about changing your handle from Diesel44 to Shizzle26 is it?

Posted by: FrancoBegbie | October 6, 2010 8:39 PM | Report abuse

Glad Josh injuredwell will not be punting.

Posted by: skinswillwin | October 6, 2010 8:43 PM | Report abuse

... and Riggins will remain the skins all-time leading rusher.

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 6, 2010 8:17

CP still comes back and gets it done this year. I can't wait to see Riggins record go away. Some up here have a problem with CP but I'd hate to see if Riggins played today. He would've been run out of town a while ago.


Posted by: dcwun | October 6, 2010 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Dude - and I'll bet you breathed a sigh of relief. Not very fun thinking about changing your handle from Diesel44 to Shizzle26 is it?

Posted by: FrancoBegbie | October 6, 2010 8:39 PM

Not a bad idea...Now if only someone like t_e/L-S/beep-beep would teach a hamster how to change a handle.

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 6, 2010 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Looks like we are getting the packers at the right time:

Nick Barnett could be lost for the season

Posted by Mike Florio on October 6, 2010 8:05 PM ET
Packers middle linebacker Nick Barnett injured his wrist during Sunday's win over the Lions. He finished the game with a cast on his wrist.

According to Greg Bedard of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, Barnett could now be finished for the season.

Barnett needs surgery to repair the wrist. If/when he has it, he won't play again this year.

But the question becomes whether Barnett will be able to play for the balance of the season without having the surgery.

"If it's not a break, I can tape it up and play," Barnett said after Sunday's game, per Bedard.

Barnett, an eighth-year veteran, missed the last seven games of the 2008 season after tearing an ACL. He has started all but two other games of his career.

Posted by: Curzon417 | October 6, 2010 8:54 PM | Report abuse

I don't hate Portis but I think he's done. If the dick Riggo of today played today I'd hate him. (Unless he was averaging 4 plus yards a carry and we were winning.)

Posted by: mack1 | October 6, 2010 8:57 PM | Report abuse

if only someone like t_e/L-S/beep-beep would teach a hamster how to change a handle.

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 6, 2010 8:50 PM

I was sworn to secrecy by Chia_Pet, the master of 37 handles. If we told, everyone up here would be changing their handles.

Posted by: beep-beep | October 6, 2010 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and and what time does scamp come up here and start a political argument, lose a political argument, make it personal, lose some more, and then complain about politics being brought up on RI? I missed the conclusion of last night's health care discussion and have been bummed about it all day.

Posted by: mack1 | October 6, 2010 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and and what time does scamp come up here and start a political argument, lose a political argument, make it personal, lose some more, and then complain about politics being brought up on RI? I missed the conclusion of last night's health care discussion and have been bummed about it all day.

Posted by: mack1

Too funny! You know he'll be here soon.

Posted by: dcwun | October 6, 2010 9:10 PM | Report abuse

dcwun-

CP will eventually end up on IR. "Detached from the bone" and we will need his roster spot.

It rarely has a story book ending.. He was a GREAT running back in Denver averaging 5.5 ypc and 1500+ per year for his two years and was very productive for his first 6 years here. The last 2, not so much. He's 29 going on 40 and will go down as a good but not great player. He'll be on the outside looking in at the HOF.

Believe it or not, I liked him as a player (still felt like we were robbed by MS in the trade) but also felt that they should have gotten out of the Clinton Portis business after last year and they would of if it wasn't for his contract.

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 6, 2010 9:10 PM | Report abuse

He started ten games last year. Everyone has had a taste. No one is asking for seconds.

Posted by: beep-beep | October 6, 2010 8:37 PM
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Would you buy a 3 year old car if I told you that it has not been driven in a year but you can't test drive it. Just pay me and I'll have it shipped to you?...good luck

Posted by: kingpenn1 | October 6, 2010 9:16 PM | Report abuse

dcwun-

CP will eventually end up on IR. "Detached from the bone" and we will need his roster spot.

It rarely has a story book ending.. He was a GREAT running back in Denver averaging 5.5 ypc and 1500+ per year for his two years and was very productive for his first 6 years here. The last 2, not so much. He's 29 going on 40 and will go down as a good but not great player. He'll be on the outside looking in at the HOF.

Believe it or not, I liked him as a player (still felt like we were robbed by MS in the trade) but also felt that they should have gotten out of the Clinton Portis business after last year and they would of if it wasn't for his contract.

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 6, 2010 9:17 PM | Report abuse

I'd hate to see if Riggins played today. He would've been run out of town a while ago.

Posted by: dcwun | October 6, 2010 8:49 PM | Report abuse

He'd be run out of town in this era? Is this if he helped us win a superbowl and brought us to a second? Or is this if he played dress up every Thursday and banged locker room reporters two at a time?

Posted by: RomoLongballs | October 6, 2010 9:17 PM | Report abuse

Now bring back the Red Snapper!!

Posted by: wireman65 | October 6, 2010 9:18 PM | Report abuse

kingpenn1-

There should be lemon laws for WRs..

We bought him, he sucks, and we can't get any trade in value for him. Probably going to have to leave him on the side of the road.

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 6, 2010 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Believe it or not, I liked him as a player (still felt like we were robbed by MS in the trade) but also felt that they should have gotten out of the Clinton Portis business after last year and they would of if it wasn't for his contract.


Posted by: Diesel44

Why would you get rid of him after last year? He got hurt and was a Pro Bowl player the prior season.

No running back would have been successful behind that line last year. Bad O line won't get it done for anyone.

I didn't like the Dockery move but its apparent that the unit is opening more holes now as they adjust to this scheme. Torain is a good power runner, but lets not fool ourselves to think that he's in CPs class even at this stage of his career.

Posted by: dcwun | October 6, 2010 9:26 PM | Report abuse

Now bring back the Red Snapper!!

Posted by: wireman65 | October 6, 2010 9:18 PM | Report abuse

No joke. How our long snapper still has a job is beyond me.

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | October 6, 2010 9:26 PM | Report abuse

kingpenn1-

There should be lemon laws for WRs..

We bought him, he sucks, and we can't get any trade in value for him. Probably going to have to leave him on the side of the road.

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 6, 2010 9:24 PM
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Yeah there should be lemon laws for WR, FEDEX field would be covered with lemon trees...Westbrook,Howard,Lloyd,Randle El,Gardner, the list could go on

Posted by: kingpenn1 | October 6, 2010 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Now bring back the Red Snapper!!

Posted by: wireman65 | October 6, 2010 9:18 PM | Report abuse

No joke. How our long snapper still has a job is beyond me.

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | October 6, 2010 9:26 PM

Ethan Albright is 39 and had offseason back surgery. Dearth had a shaky preseason but has been solid.

If that doesn't change your mind, then maybe the fact that he's on the Chargers will.

dcwun- Portis is and was a shell of his former self, still better than what we had but I think as a pure RB Torain has more to offer. If only he could develop into 1/10 the blocker CP26 was then we would have something.

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 6, 2010 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Believe it or not, I liked him as a player (still felt like we were robbed by MS in the trade) but also felt that they should have gotten out of the Clinton Portis business after last year and they would of if it wasn't for his contract.


Posted by: Diesel44 | October 6, 2010 9:17 PM |

It didn't help that the OL dropped off bad his last two years. When Heyer started in place of Jansen CP went to Zorn and had him reinstated. Jansen could still drive block but the dude was stuck in cement when it came to parrying edge rushers.

Posted by: LibertyValence | October 6, 2010 9:35 PM | Report abuse

Time to bring back The Red Snapper to fix another problematic personnel decision

Posted by: 3rings | October 6, 2010 9:36 PM | Report abuse

Instead of worrying about RB depth, we should be worried about O-line depth. We're only as good as those guys. (well, ok. RB depth is a little concerning)

I suspect we are going to be "shaping" this roster all season....

Posted by: edvar | October 6, 2010 9:36 PM | Report abuse

Westbrook,Howard,Lloyd,Randle El,Gardner, the list could go on

Posted by: kingpenn1 | October 6, 2010 9:32 PM

Cliff Russell, Taylor Jacobs, Malcom Kelly, Devin Thomas...

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 6, 2010 9:39 PM | Report abuse

He'd be run out of town in this era? Is this if he helped us win a superbowl and brought us to a second? Or is this if he played dress up every Thursday and banged locker room reporters two at a time?

Posted by: RomoLongballs
Even if we won a Super Bowl. You know he'd be a d!ck to "da Mayor" and LaCanHater
daily. They'd write all this stuff about him being a problem in the locker room and according to "sources" wasn't a good teammate.

Next thing you know, all of the bloggas take it as gospel and thus you have the birth of the Rigg hate fest.

Posted by: dcwun | October 6, 2010 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 6, 2010 9:39 PM |

Did you know that Chad Rinehart, a former Skins 3rd round pick, is on the Jets taxi squad? And what's been doing with Jammin Jarmon, a supplemental 3rd rounder?

Posted by: LibertyValence | October 6, 2010 9:44 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: LibertyValence

No doubt. Even Johnson and Peterson would have had trouble running behind last year's OL.

Regardless tho, The CP of the last 2 years would only get you what was there, nothing more. Occasionally he would get you less, ie. the 3 belly flops this year.

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 6, 2010 9:44 PM | Report abuse

Would you buy a 3 year old car if I told you that it has not been driven in a year but you can't test drive it. Just pay me and I'll have it shipped to you?...good luck

Posted by: kingpenn1 | October 6, 2010 9:16 PM

Well if I had video of the car being driven with smoke coming out of it, unable to go faster than 20 miles per, and with a lot of scratches all over it, I wouldn't want it at any price.

No, on second thought, I'd give you a 4th round draft pick for the hunk of junk.

Posted by: beep-beep | October 6, 2010 9:44 PM | Report abuse

And I still like Freight-Torrain.

Wish I could remember who said it first...

Raise your hand if you're the clever bastard one who came up with it.

Posted by: edvar | October 6, 2010 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Diesel44

I thought CP ran the ball really well against the Iggles. What I noticed most is his vision seeing the holes was much better and he hit them hard.

Torain runs very well down hill but seems to hesitate or freeze when he has to make a cut. Anyway, RB production equals wins so I hope he's ready.

Posted by: dcwun | October 6, 2010 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Just when you think ESPN couldn't get any cheesier (see their puff piece on Danny Boy) they come out with this Body Mag shti, looking to score with the hombre types I guess.

Posted by: LibertyValence | October 6, 2010 9:57 PM | Report abuse

I didn't come up with Freight-Torain, but I think I was the first to suggest...

Ryan "The Tank Engine" Torain.

Kids love Tank Engines.

Posted by: Thinker_ | October 6, 2010 10:02 PM | Report abuse

And I still like Freight-Torrain.

Wish I could remember who said it first...

Raise your hand if you're the clever bastard one who came up with it.


Posted by: edvar | October 6, 2010 9:52 PM |

I won't take credit for it. The thought crossed my mind when posters first started posting suggestions but I didn't have the energy to type up a post and hit the sub button.

Posted by: LibertyValence | October 6, 2010 10:03 PM | Report abuse

C'Mon Dcwun-

Who could hate the Diesel and who reads/cares/values what JR "reports".

Sometimes I skim the actually post but the only insight comes from those in the comment section. I definitely wouldn't give JR any credit for forming anyone's opinion positive/negative for a certain player.

This town will always make exceptions for winners. For god sakes Ricky Sanders ran over some dude like he was a squirrel.

If you're a winner then you are quirky/charismatic/eccentric, but if you lose then you are a flake/malcontent/etc... Simple as that..

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 6, 2010 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Or Choo Choo Torain.

"CHOO CHOO!"

(In effeminate voice of course, perhaps blared over the stadium speakers in Ru Paul's voice)

A slight variation on The Diesel Horn of yesteryear.

Posted by: Thinker_ | October 6, 2010 10:05 PM | Report abuse

You know he'd be a d!ck to "da Mayor" and LaCanHater
daily.

Posted by: dcwun | October 6, 2010 9:42 PM | Report abuse

So now you're saying that you'd like him??

Kidding, I feel you on this. Riggo confirmed that he'd reached the top, the pinnacle of dooshdom when he no-showed at DG28 and AM811 HOF ceremony because of his "if I ain't paid to be there, I ain't there" policy.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | October 6, 2010 10:07 PM | Report abuse

And the fans could grab the waist of the person to their right and Fed Ex break's the World Record for longest human train!

Yay!

"CHOOO CHOOO!"

Posted by: Thinker_ | October 6, 2010 10:09 PM | Report abuse

I didn't come up with Freight-Torain, but I think I was the first to suggest...

Ryan "The Tank Engine" Torain.

Kids love Tank Engines.

Posted by: Thinker_ | October 6, 2010 10:02 PM |

Thinker, Dude! How did this happen?

Choo choo?

No.

Posted by: edvar | October 6, 2010 10:13 PM | Report abuse

A slight variation on The Diesel Horn of yesteryear.

Posted by: Thinker_ | October 6, 2010 10:05 PM

This is a winner. I would love to hear some sort of locomotive noise as Torain runs for 1st downs.

But let's not put the caboose in front just yet. He has serious injury red flags.

We wouldn't want Sir Topham Hatt to be cross if he gets derailed.

Oh and Let's Go Caps..

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 6, 2010 10:13 PM | Report abuse

Kidding, I feel you on this. Riggo confirmed that he'd reached the top, the pinnacle of dooshdom when he no-showed at DG28 and AM811 HOF ceremony because of his "if I ain't paid to be there, I ain't there" policy.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | October 6, 2010 10:07 PM |

So passing out under a lady Supreme Cout Justice's chair at some swank dinner was just a way-station on the trip up to the top?

Posted by: LibertyValence | October 6, 2010 10:13 PM | Report abuse

A slight variation on The Diesel Horn of yesteryear.

Posted by: Thinker_ | October 6, 2010 10:05 PM

This is a winner. I would love to hear some sort of locomotive noise as Torain runs for 1st downs. Definitely something tougher than choo-choo tho.

But let's not put the caboose in front just yet. He has serious injury red flags.

We wouldn't want Sir Topham Hatt to be cross if he gets derailed.

Oh and Let's GO CAPS..

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 6, 2010 10:23 PM | Report abuse

F Dallas
F Eagles
F Giants
F Duke
F Yankees
F Pens
F Movable type

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 6, 2010 10:27 PM | Report abuse

LV

yes.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | October 6, 2010 10:28 PM | Report abuse

F Dallas
F Eagles
F Giants
F Duke
F Yankees
F Pens
F Movable type

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 6, 2010 10:27 PM

You forgot the Phillies.

If it comes outta Philly, it's just no good...

Posted by: edvar | October 6, 2010 10:30 PM | Report abuse

If you're a winner then you are quirky/charismatic/eccentric, but if you lose then you are a flake/malcontent/etc... Simple as that..

Posted by: Diesel44

I got it, I guess.

Its the old Bobby Knight theory....

Posted by: dcwun | October 6, 2010 10:39 PM | Report abuse

So passing out under a lady Supreme Cout Justice's chair at some swank dinner was just a way-station on the trip up to the top?

Posted by: LibertyValence

Hillarious! Who could ever forget the "C'mon Sandy, lighten up" comment (or something like that).

Posted by: dcwun | October 6, 2010 10:42 PM | Report abuse

I smell a big week coming for Freight Torain.

GB defense is looking pretty banged up... both starting safeties are doubtful at this juncture and a LB is also in doubt....

Game plan could be to grind clock with Torain to keep Rodgers off the field. I look for a 4 man rush to get pressure... GB Oline is not the best.

"We're getting the band back together..." Rak, AC99 and AH92 creating havoc and getting sacks in the backfield....

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | October 6, 2010 10:46 PM | Report abuse

I smell a big week coming for Freight Torain.

GB defense is looking pretty banged up... both starting safeties are doubtful at this juncture and a LB is also in doubt....

Game plan could be to grind clock with Torain to keep Rodgers off the field. I look for a 4 man rush to get pressure... GB Oline is not the best.

"We're getting the band back together..." Rak, AC99 and AH92 creating havoc and getting sacks in the backfield....

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | October 6, 2010 10:46 PM

Amen!

Posted by: edvar | October 6, 2010 10:52 PM | Report abuse

A slight variation on The Diesel Horn of yesteryear.

Posted by: Thinker_ | October 6, 2010 10:05 PM

This is a winner. I would love to hear some sort of locomotive noise as Torain runs for 1st downs. Definitely something tougher than choo-choo tho.

But let's not put the caboose in front just yet. He has serious injury red flags.

We wouldn't want Sir Topham Hatt to be cross if he gets derailed.

Oh and Let's GO CAPS..

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 6, 2010 10:23 PM | Report abuse


I think the opening riff from Blackfoot's "Train Train" would do nice very nicely.

Harmonica into the kicking riff...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBP15lRprPs&feature=related

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | October 6, 2010 10:54 PM | Report abuse


I think the opening riff from Blackfoot's "Train Train" would do nice very nicely.

Harmonica into the kicking riff...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBP15lRprPs&feature=related

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | October 6, 2010 10:54 PM |

I see you brought your "A" game tonight.

Stay thirsty my friend.

Posted by: edvar | October 6, 2010 11:03 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 6, 2010 11:15 PM | Report abuse

Always enjoyed seeing DG returning kicks. Wished Gibbs would have let him do more, though I understand his reluctance.

Thanks for those D44.

Posted by: Curzon417 | October 6, 2010 11:31 PM | Report abuse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBP15lRprPs&feature=related

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | October 6, 2010 10:54 PM |

YES

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 6, 2010 11:43 PM | Report abuse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBP15lRprPs&feature=related

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | October 6, 2010 10:54 PM |

YES

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 6, 2010 11:45 PM | Report abuse

If only we moveable type could play NT.

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 6, 2010 11:48 PM | Report abuse

now they need to resign Ethan Albright, one of the most reliable long snappers. Why did Shanahan feel the need to replace both of them?

Posted by: jgluke | October 6, 2010 11:57 PM | Report abuse

Ethan Albright is the LS for the Chargers.

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 7, 2010 12:20 AM | Report abuse

Without CP, I don't think the freight Torain has a good day. He had a good game against Philadelphia, but that was when he was splitting carries with Portis. Their D will probably stack the box to force Donnie to throw, and as we saw in the Eagles game that is a hit or miss proposition.

Anyone notice that Torain tends to run a bit deep when he's making an outside run? He cuts back like 3 yards before suddenly turning and gaining speed. At times, I think this led to -3 yard plays when the Eagles' D collapsed on the run lanes. Food for thought.

Even though Armstrong seems to be getting better with every game, he's still a barely-functional #3. Defenses know that they just have to double Moss and Cooley, and it's just like every other year on this offense: 3rd down disasters.

Don't even get me started on Sellers. He drops the ball so much...

Posted by: Crunkenstein | October 7, 2010 12:48 AM | Report abuse

Before we get to giving Torain flattering nicknames based on one game in which he ran over a safety, we may want to find out if he is any good. I mean this guy may end up sucking worse than Poopy_McPoop and Albert_Haynesworth put together, even if he does stay healthy for an entire season.

Instead of Freight Torain for now we could call him Toraining Wheels, or Choo-Choo Torain, or Torainee, cuz if he turns into Torainwreck we feel less stupid if we use cautious optimism instead of "all hail the new guy" hysteria.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | October 7, 2010 1:00 AM | Report abuse

Yayyyyy!!!! I know I'm behind you guys but this is certainly great news!!

Welcome back, Hunter "The Punter" Smith!

Posted by: RedCherokee | October 7, 2010 1:17 AM | Report abuse

Screw waiting to find out if this kid RB is any good by watching him play over a few games.

I'm going with "Foreight Torain."

Posted by: NateinthePDX | October 7, 2010 1:50 AM | Report abuse


http://olbagofdonuts.com/index.php/2010/10/06/injuries-cast-grim-shadow-for-defense/

Green Bay defense... bitten by the injury bug. They are hurting. We are catching them at a good time.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | October 7, 2010 3:36 AM | Report abuse

Looks like it's official...now I like our chances a lot better for Sunday:

Report: Nick Barnett done for the season
Posted by Mike Florio on October 6, 2010 10:43 PM ET
Earlier tonight, Greg Bedard of the Milwaukee Journal Senintel reported that Packers linebacker Nick Barnett would miss the season if/when he has surgery to repair a wrist injury suffered on Sunday against the Lions.

Now, Adam Schefter of ESPN reports that Barnett is "out for the season." Schefter says that the injury is similar to the one that ended Bears linebacker Brian Urlacher's season in 2009.

The news caps a bad two days for Packers fans. First, they failed to land running back Marshawn Lynch. Then, receiver Randy Moss returned to the Vikings, where he'll team up with Brett Favre. Now, Barnett leaves a gaping hole in the second level of the Green Bay defense.

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 7, 2010 5:21 AM | Report abuse

Notes and analysis from Keim:

1. The Redskins say Clinton Portis will be out for only four to six weeks with a third degree separation of his left groin. But there’s no guarantee he’ll return. Once players hurt their groin, there’s a higher likelihood of the injury re-occurring. Talked to one former player and asked how long he thought a player would be out if they suffered a third degree separation of the groin and his response? For the season. He stressed that it was a guess, but he also knows how tough it is to recover from such an injury.

2. Makes you wonder the damage Portis did by going back in the game after hurting his groin the first time. He re-injured it with one carry in the fourth quarter and now he’s done for at least a month. Give Portis credit for toughing it out.

3. Now we’ll really find out about Ryan Torain. The puns on his last name are great and everyone seems to have confidence in him. But let’s remember a couple things: He had few options this offseason before signing with Washington and he could have been signed by another team after he was cut this summer. He wasn’t. Point being, we don’t really know yet what he can do.

4. Obviously Mike Shanahan has seen something in him that he likes, which is why he drafted him in Denver and then signed him in Washington. Here’s what Shanahan said today about Torain: “It’s easy to see if you’ve been around it. I could tell you that when he was a rookie in Denver that he’s got it. He’s a top back in the National Football League. There’s no question about it. Now, can he stay healthy? What’s a top back? Is he one of the greater backs? Can he separate himself from being a good back to a great back? What’s a great back? A guy that runs for 1,000 yards or a guy that averages 5 yards per carry instead of 3.5 yards a carry and just carries the ball all the time. There’s so many factors that I look at.”

5. A small interruption for a brief plug: Got a question for Redskins mailbag? Click here.

6. Back to football…. Though Portis had clearly lost a step, he still served a purpose and was a good all-around back. Had he played the entire game Sunday, he likely would have had a 100-yard day. And don’t forget his pass protection ability. Sort of a big thing. If Keiland Williams is promoted from the practice squad, then he could serve in that role. But, at this point in his career, think Donovan McNabb has complete faith in him picking up various blitzes?

more...

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 7, 2010 5:43 AM | Report abuse

continued...

7. The other part, and this is selfish, is that Portis is a much better quote than Torain. Of course, he’s a better quote than most guys. Torain comes across as a very nice guy and Shanahan will never have to worry about what he says. But don’t expect to see a lot of quotes from him. In a 19-question interview today, he talked about hard work in seven answers. His interview lasted 5:45. In contrast, McNabb also answered 19 questions and needed 11 minutes. Yes, one’s a longtime vet and the other is really in the spotlight for the first time in his NFL career. Guessing Torain has more personality than he’s shown.

8. That said, he is a good story in perseverance. Torain had a fractured toe as a senior at Arizona State, dislocated his elbow as a rookie and then suffered a torn ACL in his one and only start that season. He then sprained his knee the following summer and was cut by coach Josh McDaniels. So Torain is allowed to talk about hard work.

9. The question is, who will they cut when they sign another back? They have six receivers and two are returners. Devin Thomas doesn’t play from scrimmage, but he helps on special teams. The one receiver who could be in trouble is Roydell Williams. Has one catch; doesn’t help on teams.

10. Trent Williams was very confident that he would be able to play Sunday. Said he felt "10 times better" than he did a week ago. Mike Shanahan was not ready to proclaim him ready, but it's a good sign that Williams' limp was gone. Couldn't say that last week.

11. The Redskins will sign punter Hunter Smith Thursday morning. Not sure if Josh Bidwell was hurt again, but his outing Sunday could not have helped. Bidwell’s last two punts of 32 and 15 yards showed he was just too inconsistent. Throw in the hip and he’s not someone the Redskins could rely on for the rest of the season.

12. One positive: We get to ask Smith about the fake field goal again from last year. Fun times.


Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/sports/blogs/redskins-confidential/Redskins-notes-and-analysis-10610-104448918.html#ixzz11fGogwf9

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 7, 2010 5:45 AM | Report abuse

For what it's worth (which is probably not much), Adam Schein at Fox Sports still has us 10-6...

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/NFC-East-tough-to-figure-out-100510

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 7, 2010 6:05 AM | Report abuse

Darn...Step aside for a short while and look what happens. All kinds of stuff.
Can we get the Red Snapper back...Should get mention for an all Redskin Team. The guy was a great snapper.

Posted by: fat_back | October 7, 2010 6:07 AM | Report abuse

Completely baffling that Hunter the Punter was not here from the beginning. Sure he had a groin injury last season, and he recovered, but he was awesome. He's also one of the better holders. Why he and Red Snapper were not re-signed to start the season makes no sense. Both were cheap and productive. Red Snapper is now in San Diego I think.

Posted by: jimc93 | October 7, 2010 6:46 AM | Report abuse

So passing out under a lady Supreme Cout Justice's chair at some swank dinner was just a way-station on the trip up to the top?

Posted by: LibertyValence

Hillarious! Who could ever forget the "C'mon Sandy, lighten up" comment (or something like that).

Posted by: dcwun | October 6, 2010 10:42 PM | Report abuse

O'Connor was the last justice that had an inkling of common sense... Oh, no! I am feeding the political trolls now!

Posted by: jboogie1 | October 7, 2010 9:45 AM | Report abuse

Is bidwell and joey galloway also related to mike shanahan?

bidwell sucked before he got injured and I've seen joey galloway primarily run one route all year. devin thomas must be flat-out uncoachable.

Posted by: deshackleford | October 7, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

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