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Spring Shabinguses

Shabingi? Shabingo?
Whatev. You need to know that early and late-spring shaflinguses are afoot...one is an out-and-out shabingus, the other a minibingus, so mark your calendars as members of RI Nation meet to plan their global conquest.
First, the minibingus. Redcoat, the resident Brit/Dolphins fans who is, um, a little lost but nonetheless a stalwart of RI Nation, has suggested that folks gather at Summers in Arlington at 10:30 a.m. Sunday (warning: if you go, you're on the express bus to hell), April 13 to watch a soccer thing (Man U vs. Arsenal, methinx). He realizes full well that this is a crowd that prefers fubball to futbol, but it sounds like a fun time. Unless, um, you have to work in a Sports Dept., and it's Masters Sunday...
And then there's the evil genius that is Nate. You will not believe what he is planning. Without further ado, here's a guest blog he has filed from the PDX:

Hello, Redskins Insider blog peeps, rabid hamsters, occasional commenters, and lurkers,

A big offseason meet-up is being planned, and it is likely to be a shabingus. A lot of the "regulars" have already confirmed they'll be coming, including locals and some folks from out of town. Simply put, you should be there if you can, especially those of you in DC/VA/MD. The more, the merrier!


WHEN: Saturday, June 7
WHERE: Washington, DC
WHAT: happy hour from 4pm until about 6pm, THEN over to the new ballpark for Nationals-Giants at 7pm


For more details and to RSVP, please send me an email: nateinthepdx@gmail.com

I will be buying a block of tickets to the baseball game, and I need to hear from you soon if you'd like to be part of that group. Otherwise you can buy your own tickets to the game, or if you like, just come to the happy hour. Either way, please let me know with an email.

-Nate in the PDX


P.S. For the record, this event is not officially associated with the Washington Post... though I do hope some of the fine Post people who make the blog possible will be joining us!

By Cindy Boren  |  March 29, 2008; 5:44 PM ET
 
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Comments

Holy Guacamole First?

Posted by: corkczar | March 29, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Who's that team they call the Arsenal?
Who's that team we all adore? They're the boys in red and white, And we're f-n dynamite.

4th,
Regarding the Vogue cover with Lebron James, I am not 50 but here's my take. Historically blacks often have been compared to monkeys. So when a black man is posed with a white woman in a manner that is reminiscent of King Kong, it has the tendency to rub some people the wrong way. I chock this up to ignorance more than racism. While I wouldn't necessarily expect people at Vogue to be sensitive to this issue, I would expect that Lebron or whoever advises him would have some consciousness.

Back to our regularly scheduled programming.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | March 29, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

BONG!

Posted by: bigmurf08 | March 29, 2008 7:34 PM | Report abuse

Now as you know JLa, I am a season ticket holder at Emirates Stadium, so while I won't be able to join the Arlington thing, please make sure there is full support for The Mighty Gunners and none for the glory chasers.

Posted by: barrie.whipp | March 29, 2008 8:28 PM | Report abuse

I believe it should be called a shindingus.

But then again, I think Laron should be called Double Vision, such as.

Posted by: daggar | March 29, 2008 9:08 PM | Report abuse

So, beer-deprived as I am at 6pm on a Saturday evening (a situation I shall be rectifying shortly), I am having a little trouble with reading comprehension. From what I gather, the 'Skins signed some dude from England who plays with a round ball and then finally hired a head coach from Portland.

I think I got that right.

Well, at least we finally have a head coach.

Posted by: PDiddy | March 29, 2008 9:13 PM | Report abuse

There's still more action on the political blogs, diddy.
Well, feckless whining at least. Which has been mistaken for action in the past.

Posted by: daggar | March 29, 2008 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Lordy I miss saying Flapjacks.

Posted by: pulldownclaw | March 29, 2008 9:43 PM | Report abuse

The New Nationals Ball Park a Fans Perspective

First the top moment of the game was in the bottom of the 2nd or 3rd inning when Zim was at his second at bat. One of the pitchers in the bullpen decided to christen the stadium in his own way by pissing in the far left corner of the bull pen. There was a lot of noise from the fans in my section when it happened and one guy said it was Chad Cordero, but as the player was wearing his wind breaker I could not see a jersey number.

Well its a nice looking park overall, I don't see it becoming the next Camden Yards or Fenway, and as a Washingtonian I will miss RFK for the history. Nothing great, and nothing stands out as truly Washingtonian. Once inside it does not look that different from any other new stadium by HOK. It does seem that everyone gets a great view of the game. I kinda wish we could burn down the garages and get a better view of the city.

I have one big architecture complaint, as I wandered around the stadium taking it all in I learned that you cant walk from end to end on the second tier because they let the luxury boxes take up the entire catwalk, and you have to go back to the first floor to get around to the other side, can you say bourgeois?

There is a huge step up in terms of food and other vendors, you can get a Ben's chili dog at many of the vendors. BTW if you want a chili dog go for the Ben's dogs I also tried one from Hard Times, lame.

I would imagine that the kids area is a big plus for the 4-12 crowd, though when I went to stadiums as a kid I went for the game. Though if I were that age I would want to get to the stadium 1-2 hours early to play around.

The servers seemed overwhelmed but hey this was the first game.

The wind in the stadium seemed to swirl in a counter clockwise motion through the stadium and I think thats gonna drop a lot of homers into pop fly range if it's like that regularly. And being that I live in SW, the wind here is constant and can get crazy.

Posted by: alex35332 | March 29, 2008 9:52 PM | Report abuse

WHEN: Saturday, June 7
WHAT: happy hour from 4pm until about 6pm, THEN over to the new ballpark for Nationals-Giants at 7pm
-Nate in the PDX

F**k the Giants!!

Posted by: RedskinWillie | March 29, 2008 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Any get togethers planned for HOF weekend in Canton?

Posted by: COskins | March 29, 2008 10:12 PM | Report abuse

CO if you want one plan one.

Posted by: alex35332 | March 29, 2008 10:14 PM | Report abuse

The RI blog's resident displaced-Marylander-turned-Hoosier (Indiana townie) will be at the shabingus shindig. Though, I'm happy to report that I'm moving back to good old merlynd to try and do some community college teaching, so perhaps a few more rounds will be in order in due course. Look for the fullbackular fellow sporting a #45 Mike Sellers jersey and not liking baseball as much as football.

Nate has all of the cards on this one-- shall we have a roll call so we know who is gonna be attending?

Oh, and murf, I don't think that the metro will allow your bong onboard (something about security and/or the war on drugs/ terror).

Cheers,
TDawg

Posted by: TDawg | March 29, 2008 10:34 PM | Report abuse

So Nate, I think the cheep seats will be great spots to watch a game from at the Baseball stadium come June. More money for drinkin.

Posted by: alex35332 | March 29, 2008 10:41 PM | Report abuse

Nate thanks for the invite. Somehow my wife is going to a girls weekend that weekend while I take my kids to see **her** cousin get married? I am sure someone can explain.

Not to look beyond the current ripe social calendar -- but any plans for a Redskins draft party? I think that would be great.

Posted by: zornskins | March 29, 2008 11:00 PM | Report abuse

this nate guy is a douche, what a waste of a post on a redskins "insider" blog.

please don't make this type of post in the future.

Posted by: makalb18 | March 30, 2008 12:07 AM | Report abuse

Challenge question:

Why did the Redskins lose to the Patriots 52-7, when the Giants beat this same team 38-35 in the Super Bowl. Considering the Skins were competitive against the Giants during the regular season, how does one account for this disparity? Is this simply about match ups?

Posted by: podspeak | March 26, 2008 05:35 PM

On offense JC had a terrible game. All those fumbles is why Gibbs always liked to have a veteran at QB. But the other side was GW had a terrible game plan. After playing back and not blitzing had worked so well against the Lions he tried the same stategy against other teams. But a team like the Pats you have to pressure, as the Giants demonstrated. GW got back to his pressure defense later in the season and that is part of why the Skins had the late run.

Posted by: skinfanman | March 30, 2008 12:08 AM | Report abuse

Blog's neologism
Insider's gift to mankind
Shabingus, be proud!

Posted by: HaikuMan | March 30, 2008 12:12 AM | Report abuse

I DON'T FN ROLL ON SHOMER SHABINGUSES!!

(Then why did you answer the phone, Walter?)

Nats-Giants? Really? Pirates not available? ;^)

Posted by: WorstSeat | March 30, 2008 1:07 AM | Report abuse

I DON'T FN ROLL ON SHOMER SHABINGUSES!!

(Then why did you answer the phone, Walter?)

Nats-Giants? Really? Pirates not available? ;^)

Posted by: WorstSeat | March 30, 2008 1:17 AM | Report abuse

makalb18, I'll put you down as a "no."

Posted by: NateinthePDX | March 30, 2008 1:21 AM | Report abuse

Dammmmmnnn!

Impressive, Nate. It seems you have been promoted to head honch at RI. Kudos...

Is this a paid position? Taking over for JaLa, are we?

The Nats game and get together back east sounds like fun. I have extended the invite to my buddy, the much reviled Sports_Guru; think he could benefit from the comradeship. Perhaps, you could get him thinking positive about the Redskins again, in that he's really bummed about the direction the team is taking.

Let's see: can anyone help me out as to what is meant by "pigeonholed?"

I'm lost on this one.

Posted by: podspeak | March 30, 2008 3:01 AM | Report abuse

Dammmmmnnn!

Impressive, Nate. It seems you have been promoted to head honch at RI. Kudos...

Is this a paid position? Taking over for JaLa, are we?

The Nats game and get together back east sounds like fun. I have extended the invite to my buddy, the much reviled Sports_Guru; think he could benefit from the comradeship. Perhaps, you could get him thinking positive about the Redskins again, in that he's really bummed about the direction the team is taking.

Let's see: can anyone help me out as to what is meant by "pigeonholed?"

I'm lost on this one.

Posted by: podspeak | March 30, 2008 3:03 AM | Report abuse

I also have no idea what "shabingus" means, but it doesn't sound good, nor do I know what "loseable type" signifies.

Posted by: podspeak | March 30, 2008 3:07 AM | Report abuse

Ok, I think I got it.

Shabingus means "get together?"

It must.

But, why?

Posted by: podspeak | March 30, 2008 5:27 AM | Report abuse

Podspeak, this is part of the RI lexicon. kina like SJK and stuff.

Posted by: alex35332 | March 30, 2008 8:01 AM | Report abuse

The Giants game has been moved up to June 7? Woo-hoo! That's good news. The last I read it wasn't until September 4. Definitely a step in the right direction, and I guess they'll have to move training camp up to April 15.

And Nate is buying us all tickets for the game? I can hardly believe what I'm reading. Maybe I should read it again.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | March 30, 2008 8:11 AM | Report abuse

Hmm... yeah, silly me for not clarifying that the particular Giants participating in a sporting contest in Washington on June 7 are of the baseball variety, and they hail from San Francisco.

Reminds me of how annoying it is when Chris Berman says "New York football Giants." This other Giants team shares the blame for the persistent usage of that aged affectation in our culture. Maybe they should have picked another name when they moved to the west coast.

Fish is fish, and Giants is Giants. Go Washington, either way.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | March 30, 2008 9:56 AM | Report abuse

I'm not adding anything of value here. I'll bow out, exit stage left. It's clear that I don't know as much about football as you all, and that I'm not in on the club. Not a big fan of being insulted, either.

Podspeak is spoken here no more.

Posted by: podspeak | February 22, 2008 10:29 AM

Welcome back, podspeak! Many of us up here missed you.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | March 30, 2008 9:58 AM | Report abuse

June 7 is my birthday.

Posted by: skinfanman | March 30, 2008 10:03 AM | Report abuse

And t_e, are you joining us, dude? That would be great. Evaluating all of the blog talent in person would be a big step forward after having to rely on game film all this time.

I will gladly send details in email, including the answer to your question about whether I'm buying everyone's tickets to the beisbol game. (The answer may surprise you!)

Posted by: NateinthePDX | March 30, 2008 10:07 AM | Report abuse

How better to celebrate your birthday, skinfanman?

Posted by: NateinthePDX | March 30, 2008 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Won't be able to, NateinthePDX. Would enjoy it if I could, even though I'm no longer into baseball.

Posted by: skinfanman | March 30, 2008 10:58 AM | Report abuse

It's SHABINGI.

Nate, Good response to maka-caca.

Posted by: cmecyclist | March 30, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

I'd rather swallow a hand greande than meet anyone from RI.

Posted by: knight1977 | March 30, 2008 11:37 AM | Report abuse

i regret that i have but two hand grenades to give for the blog.

one for makalb, one for knight 1977.

Posted by: RedskinWillie | March 30, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

ANOTHER SHABINGENUM

I'm organizing a Welcome to Washington get together for all the new FAs the Redskins signed this off-season.

All of you are welcome to attend. Will let you know the details once I've booked a phone booth for the festivities.

We're hoping to get Vinny as guest speaker if it doesn't interfere with his busy racquetball sked.

Posted by: corkczar | March 30, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe my hand grenade post was deleted!!

I was just kidding.........I love RI

Posted by: knight1977 | March 30, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

LOL :

"Oh, and murf, I don't think that the metro will allow your bong onboard (something about security and/or the war on drugs/ terror).

Cheers,
TDawg"

Too fuuny!

No, but I could sneak my dugout (pardon the baseball pun), no problem. In between Miller Lites step in the bathroom for a quick puff....lol....be twasted by game time!

BONG!

Posted by: bigmurf08 | March 30, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Zornskins,

Half my family relocated to Cincinnati so when the Skins play the Bengals, I'll probably be there and need to enlist your aid. The last time I went to the "Jungle", fans threw their stupid cornhole beanbags at my car!

Posted by: mmok | March 30, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Nate, unless I win the lottery in the next few weeks, I'm going to have to give it a miss unfortunately!

zcezest1, the mighty Cats took care of Essendon for you! 150-51

Posted by: kost52 | March 30, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

I see I'm sitting in 5th in RI Tournamania! Woohoo!! Go you Memphis Tigers!

Posted by: kost52 | March 30, 2008 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Ri meet-up, so any of our great blog captains gonna be there? Queen Cindy, or Sir. La Canforta

Posted by: alex35332 | March 30, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Btw NFL.com has some top ten videos on various things fubball.

Here are some skins ranked in there.
Top Ten Seasons Performances of all time
No 10- Mark Moseley, 1982

Top Ten Most Versatile Players of all time
No 1 Sammy Baugh

Top ten Nicknames
No 9 Over the Hill Gang
No 3 The Hogs

Posted by: alex35332 | March 30, 2008 6:44 PM | Report abuse

Re: June 7 (D-Day)

Cyn City has signed a verbal letter of commitment.

If someone will bring Froot Loops, I'll bet we can get LaToucanfora to show up.

Posted by: daggar | March 30, 2008 6:59 PM | Report abuse

heck nate, if that darn bracket of yours was worth some mula, I'd offer to buy the nats tics myself. . .

alas, hopefully I wind up doing as well in the brackets worth some beers. . .

8K

Posted by: skinsfan8KaboveMSL | March 30, 2008 7:58 PM | Report abuse

test

Posted by: JustMe | March 30, 2008 8:04 PM | Report abuse

The sun in shining in PDX and its time for a beer.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | March 30, 2008 8:09 PM | Report abuse

kost--

You loser -- what do you mean you're not going? Oh, right, the Metro doesn't go to Melbourne yet.

Look, even if you can't make it, you should be there in spirit. Send me $250 and I'll buy everyone a drink and tell 'em Kost is thinking of them. $250 US is only like $3 in Australian money these days.

Hope that works as well for you as it does for me.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | March 30, 2008 8:48 PM | Report abuse

TE - Hahaha Let's just see how my plan with the lottery goes first!

Posted by: kost52 | March 30, 2008 9:01 PM | Report abuse

kost,

The lottery is for losers, and I hate to think of you in that way. Do you know anyone who's won the lottery? Of course not. They're all losers.

Break away from that sort of thinking. Just send me the money and we'll all lift our glasses and think kindly of you. "To kost!" You'll hear it all the way in Melbourne. Okay, maybe not that far. You might have to go to Sydney. Or Fiji. Or, I can put you on the speaker phone. That'll be a special moment for you.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | March 30, 2008 9:12 PM | Report abuse

The lottery is for losers, and I hate to think of you in that way. Do you know anyone who's won the lottery? Of course not. They're all losers.

TE, that's because they move away from the trailer park after they win...

Posted by: daggar | March 30, 2008 9:27 PM | Report abuse

kost,

The lottery is for losers, and I hate to think of you in that way. Do you know anyone who's won the lottery? Of course not.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | March 30, 2008 09:12 PM

I don't know anyone who has won, that's why I reckon I'm due! hahaha

Posted by: kost52 | March 30, 2008 9:30 PM | Report abuse

daggar,

You've got a point.

The only guy I know who won the lottery is that slob Hugo on Lost. And I'm not even sure whether he actually won or is just a nut job who thinks he's won or will win some day in the future. I don't know about you, but Hugo made me stop playing the lottery.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | March 30, 2008 9:30 PM | Report abuse

anyone know when HOF game tix go onsale?

Posted by: matthewwmccarthy | March 30, 2008 9:41 PM | Report abuse

unable... to post... comment...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | March 31, 2008 2:19 AM | Report abuse

what are you doing...up at this hour...oh wait.

hail

Posted by: SMACK1 | March 31, 2008 2:40 AM | Report abuse

Mr. Evaluator,

Thanks for the warm welcome back! I can see you've been anxiously awaiting my return. Coming from a blog bully like you, I'm truly heartened; even a little fuzzy and warm inside.

Copy and paste at will, my friend, copy and paste.

LOL!

Posted by: podspeak | March 31, 2008 4:37 AM | Report abuse

Btw NFL.com has some top ten videos on various things fubball.

Here are some skins ranked in there.
Top Ten Seasons Performances of all time
No 10- Mark Moseley, 1982

Top Ten Most Versatile Players of all time
No 1 Sammy Baugh

Top ten Nicknames
No 9 Over the Hill Gang
No 3 The Hogs

Posted by: alex35332 | March 30, 2008 06:44 PM
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You forgot Brian Mitchell. He was No. 9 in the Most Versatile Players. Where would I be without NFL Network?

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 31, 2008 6:22 AM | Report abuse

Just making sure I'm not getting hosed here, but did anyone else buy tickets to the Hall of Fame inductions? I bought tickets two months ago and still haven't recieved them in the mail.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 31, 2008 6:23 AM | Report abuse

Btw NFL.com has some top ten videos on various things fubball.

Here are some skins ranked in there.
Top Ten Seasons Performances of all time
No 10- Mark Moseley, 1982

Top Ten Most Versatile Players of all time
No 1 Sammy Baugh

Top ten Nicknames
No 9 Over the Hill Gang
No 3 The Hogs

Posted by: alex35332 | March 30, 2008 06:44 PM
--------------------------------
You forgot Brian Mitchell. He was No. 9 in the Most Versatile Players. Where would I be without NFL Network?

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 31, 2008 06:22 AM

And both of you forgot John Riggins @ #2 in the Top 10 power running backs of all time. Yes I love NFL Network as well....

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 31, 2008 7:17 AM | Report abuse

Brownwood - I brought tickets as well. They said they won't be delivered until June.........

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 31, 2008 7:18 AM | Report abuse

Thanks, 4th. I was afraid I'd have to hear my wife give me the Parcells treatment for blowing a bunch of cash on the Skins for no reason. You staying for the game?

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 31, 2008 7:38 AM | Report abuse

And both of you forgot John Riggins @ #2 in the Top 10 power running backs of all time. Yes I love NFL Network as well....

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 31, 2008 07:17 AM

I was just going by the ones he listed. By the way, is there any higher form of unintentional comedy than the segment on Christian Okoye? The clips of him on that kid's show are hilarious!

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 31, 2008 7:45 AM | Report abuse

Happy Monday, hamsters.

Thanks for invitation to the game and putting that together Nate, but distance prevents me from attending.

Did some research this weekend, regarding the draft, and here is what I came up with, my lead-pipe lock for success:

1. Brandon Albert-G
2. Jordy Nelson-WR
3a. Jason Jones - DE Eastern Michigan
3b. Brandon Keith - G Northern Iowa

Vinny, are you taking notes....??

Posted by: gregmarino88 | March 31, 2008 8:38 AM | Report abuse

Top ten Nicknames
No 9 Over the Hill Gang
No 3 The Hogs

Posted by: alex35332 | March 30, 2008 06:44 PM

Once again The Fun Bunch are overlooked.

Posted by: skinfanman | March 31, 2008 9:19 AM | Report abuse

Redskins | Team interested in Banks
Sun, 30 Mar 2008 19:18:48 -0700

J.J. Pesavento, of Next Level Scouting, reports the Washington Redskins are showing interest in Iowa State LB Jon Banks.

Redskins | Team interested in Bowen
Sun, 30 Mar 2008 19:16:50 -0700

J.J. Pesavento, of Next Level Scouting, reports the Washington Redskins are showing interest in Iowa State University LB Alvin Bowen. The team put him through position drills during his Pro Day.

Redskins | Team showing interest in Roan
Sun, 30 Mar 2008 11:09:15 -0700

Josh Buchanan, of NFLDraftBible.com, reports Southern Utah C Matt Roan is receiving interest from the Washington Redskins.

Posted by: skinfanman | March 31, 2008 9:24 AM | Report abuse

gregmarino88, I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who took time out of their weekend to extensively research this. I like the way you have the draft laying out for the skins, but this is how I saw it...
1. Phillip Merling-DE
2. Jordy Nelson-WR
3a. Drew Radovinch-G USC
3b. Kirk Barton-T Ohio State

Don't get me wrong, I would love Albert as well in the first. I just don't see it happening if Merling is on the board.

Posted by: skinsfan_81 | March 31, 2008 9:27 AM | Report abuse

sf-81, I'm intrigued by Merling. I read where he played both DE, and DT, which makes him versatile, and adds to his value. I think that if Albert is there, the Redskins can't pass on him. He can spell Kendall at G, or step in for Jansen at T.

I don't know much about your two 3rd round picks, tell me about them?

Posted by: gregmarino88 | March 31, 2008 9:45 AM | Report abuse

Greg, skinfan I'm going to put my .02 in. I like both Merling or Albert. However, I feel the skins tend to look for play makers in the first. Hardy fits that bill, but I just don't see them taking him there. So her's what I see right now.

1. Aqeel Talib (13 ints)
2. James Hardy (36 TD's){Trade '09 #1)
2. Lawrence Jackson (30.5 sacks)
3. Dre Moore
3. Tony Hills

Posted by: marlonjohn | March 31, 2008 10:06 AM | Report abuse

Drew Radovinch
Height: 6-41/2 Weight: 301 40-Time: 5.38
Really strong and tough...Has decent range and can get to the second level...Has a terrific motor...He's pretty quick with nice footwork...A excellent pass protector...Smart with great awareness...Hard worker...Does not always play with proper leverage...Struggles to recover when he's beat...Does not get a great push in the run game...Has to use his hands better.

Kirk Barton
Height: 6-43/8 Weight: 310 40-Time: 5.30
Has long arms...Smart with excellent awareness...He is a solid technician...Tenacious and plays with a nasty demeanor...Equally effective as a run and pass blocker...Hard worker...A great leader...Has a lot of experience...Not very nimble or light on his feet...Has poor balance and agility...Struggles in space...Has some durability concerns.

Both of these guys are prospects. Neither of them should start in '08, but I believe that Buges will correct their poor technique and make a starter out of Radovich in '09 and Barton in '10.

Posted by: skinsfan_81 | March 31, 2008 10:08 AM | Report abuse

Marl, I want no part of trading future draft picks. I also have stated previously that I want no part of Hardy, because of the baggage that he brings.

This is the first I'm hearing of Tony Hills. Where does he play?

Posted by: gregmarino88 | March 31, 2008 10:13 AM | Report abuse

marlonjohn, I like Talib and Hardy as well, but I do not believe either of them will be on the board when the skins pick in the first and second. Now I see you are willing to trade future picks to acquire Hardy... that's a path I would not prefer to take. I am really intrigued with Jordy Nelson (and I know I'm not alone here on this) and think he can be a terror in the slot.
Good call on Dre Moore, I wouldn't mind that selection at all.

Posted by: skinsfan_81 | March 31, 2008 10:15 AM | Report abuse

greg, i really like your mock.

I'd rather see us use our second 3rd rounder on a CB or another DL though.

Any OL not taken in the first round is probably not ready to be an immediate starter. that being the case, i think we'd be better drafting other OL in the lower rounds and letting bugel do his thing. sold defenisve linemen are hard to come by and cornerbacks are even harder. I think our compensatory pick would be better addressed with a player at one of our other positions of need.

Posted by: SETH.LEMASTER | March 31, 2008 10:17 AM | Report abuse

marlon, i am in agreement we should not trade our future picks, especially this year. it is very likely we will have a top 10 pick in 2009. why would we trade a top 10 pick in 2009 for a 2nd round wide receiver who could end up being the next pacman?

Posted by: SETH.LEMASTER | March 31, 2008 10:20 AM | Report abuse

Greg for better or worse I think the skins are going to put an emphasis on red zone production this year. Hardy is a playmaker and if he there early 2nd I can see the skins making a trade with Atlanta for one of theirs.

Tony Hills OT from Texas. He has injury concerns so he should be there at the end of the 3rd. Here's his bio.

Strengths: Possesses outstanding height and wingspan. Continues to add bulk to frame and still has room left to get bigger. He displays good feet and balance. A natural knee-bender with good mirror-and-slide skills in pass pro. He's big enough to engulf smaller defenders at the point of attack. Has quick hands and does a good job of keeping pass rushers in front of him. Very impressive mobility when asked to pull or block downfield on runs and screens. Fires out quickly in the run game and takes solid angles.

Weaknesses: Needs to do a better job of sustaining once locked on. Seems to lack a mean streak and must become more physical in order to elevate his game to the next level. Hands are quick but he lacks explosive power behind his punch. Rarely jars defenders with his punch. Must continue to improve overall strength. He will struggle at times versus powerful bull rushers that stand him up and get him off-balance. Sustained a potentially career-ending knee injury during senior season in high school and a broken left fibula ended his 2007 season in mid-November so durability is clearly a concern.

Overall: Hills signed with Texas in 2003 and redshirted the year. He was moved from tight end to offensive tackle, and in his first three seasons (2004-06) appeared in 31 games, including starts at left tackle in all 13 games his junior year. He started the Longhorns' first 11 games of 2007, but suffered a fractured left fibula that cost him the last two games. Hills was forced to redshirt and sit out the '03 season after reconstructive surgery on his left knee, following a career-threatening injury (nerve damage). Hills is coming off a season-ending leg injury and he needs to get stronger at the point of attack. However, he's still a good value early on Day 2 of the draft. The reason is he is quick, he moves very well for his size and he has the frame to bulk up without losing much if any of that agility.


* Player biographies are provided by Scouts Inc.

Posted by: marlonjohn | March 31, 2008 10:20 AM | Report abuse

Hardy's off the field issue is not causing him to slide in the draft. Which suggest to me that his character concerns are minimal. I've seen and heard recent interviews from Hardy, and he seems to be really mature. Also SETH, I don't see the skins being that bad. I'm also quite sure they don't view themselves in the same way you do.

Posted by: marlonjohn | March 31, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

marlonjohn, I couldn't agree more that red zone production will be an emphasis in this draft. That is why I think they will draft Nelson in the second. He is not as tall as Hardy and is still a bit raw, but I believe he will become a better WR than Hardy, doesn't come with the baggage, and will not require future draft picks to obtain.
I also think if Marcus Monk (6-4)is available in the sixth round, I would take a stab. You have to love a WR named Monk and I would like a WR core that consists of Moss, ARE, Nelson, Mix, and Monk.

Posted by: skinsfan_81 | March 31, 2008 10:29 AM | Report abuse

marl, he did a stint in prison while in college for hitting his girlfriend. I'd prefer the Redskins stayed away. Also, Hills more like a later in the draft type of guy, he's got some injury issues.

I think this Brandon Keith is going to be a player.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | March 31, 2008 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Brandon Keith? One last thing on Hardy. Don't forget the Alumni connection ARE. If he's a good dude ARE may be doing some lobbying

Posted by: marlonjohn | March 31, 2008 10:44 AM | Report abuse

I think this Brandon Keith is going to be a player.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | March 31, 2008 10:35 AM

Would Brandon Keith put a boot in somebody's ass because it's the Redskins way?

Adam

Posted by: argh | March 31, 2008 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Big Sky Guy

Apparently one of the reasons the Cowslugs feel they can bring in Pacman to join fellow (former?) Bad Actor TO, is because of the positive influence of Grant Hill's daddy, Calvin--who coaches up Dallas bad Boys in the behavior department.

Seems to me if the 'skins are going to compete in that area, they need to hire new HOF'er and long time good guy Darrel Green as official team Chaplain.

Posted by: corkczar | March 31, 2008 10:49 AM | Report abuse

marlon, i'm sure the skins dont view themselves the way i do - i sure hope not. even the worst team in the nfl is made up of players who feel "this could be our year." they are players - if they arent optomistic, they will fail.

as a fan, i don't have to be optomistic. i can be more realistic. this team is not any better this year than it was last year. yeah, we are going to draft players to help, but so is every other team in the NFL. theoretically, the draft should improve every team more or less equally.

I will ask you this - just look around our division, and tell me which team are we noticably better than? the truth is, we are - by far - the weakest looking team in the division now. add to that the fact we have a new head coach who has never called plays, let alone coached a whole team, and its easy to predict that the skins are not in store for a good year.

if we had just won the superbowl, i might feel differently, but we BARELY made it into the playoffs last year, lost the wild card game, and we have the highest draft pick of all the non-playoff teams from last year. assuming we don't make the playoffs next year, there is no way our 2009 1st rounder will not be better than our 2008 1st rounder. why on earth would we trade that pick for a 2nd rounder this year? its utterly foolish and shows the same misguided "we are just one or two players away from a superbowl, lets mortgage our future on this year" mentality that we seem to have finally gotten rid of. no thanks. we need to keep our 2009 picks.

Posted by: SETH.LEMASTER | March 31, 2008 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Adam, Brandon Keith:

Brandon Keith, OL, Northern Iowa
Keith has been rising up draft boards since September and continued the upward movement on Thursday. He measured 6-foot-5, 345 pounds and posted outstanding 40 times which were as fast 4.96 seconds. His size and athleticism has scouts thinking he can start at a number of offensive line positions

Plug him in at G, along with Albert at the other G position, and roll...

Posted by: gregmarino88 | March 31, 2008 10:53 AM | Report abuse

Heck, I'd be all for taking Nicks, and Keith with the Redskins 2-third round picks. Two guys, in the 340 pound range who have run a 5.1, and a 4.9 40. Big, fast guards. I'll take it.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | March 31, 2008 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Greg, Nicks has more of a character problem than most. I don't see the skins having him on their draft board.

SETH I just don't agree with you as usual.

Posted by: marlonjohn | March 31, 2008 11:14 AM | Report abuse

"I will ask you this - just look around our division, and tell me which team are we noticably better than? the truth is, we are - by far - the weakest looking team in the division now. add to that the fact we have a new head coach who has never called plays, let alone coached a whole team, and its easy to predict that the skins are not in store for a good year."

SETH, well said. I'm not claiming to be some kind of know it all when it comes to sports, but in some crazy way being a first time HC with a "green" staff can work in your favor. For every Sean Payton, you'll have 5-7 Norvs'. I know that it's not a giving that the Redskins will do well, but you never know.

There was a guy last year that ended every post with "Think 2005 Steelers".


*Think 2006 Saints*

Posted by: RedDMV | March 31, 2008 11:14 AM | Report abuse

marl, while I will agree he has some issues, I don't believe that getting arrested at a house party is keeping him off of draft boards.

Hitting, or violence against women is just inexcusable to me.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | March 31, 2008 11:19 AM | Report abuse

i'm not saying its impossible that the skins do well, however, our division is extremely talented and no one can realistically argue that they are better than the cowboys or giants right now. If you disagree, then offer some proof, other than blind hope that the skins immitated the abberation that was the 2006 saints (they had one good year and then returned to mediocrity).

Right now, the smart money says the either the cowboys or giants wins the division and the other one wins a wild card. That leaves the skins, eagles, and 9 other NFC teams to fight over another wild card slot. the odds simply arent in our favor my friend.

Posted by: SETH.LEMASTER | March 31, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Seth, lets see how things play out? Injuries, draft, there are so many things that could effect how the season goes.

Lets give it a little more time before we declare it a done deal?

Posted by: gregmarino88 | March 31, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Greg sorry, I got Nicks and Purify mixed up.

SETH I don't think that there is a great difference between the teams in the NFC East. Also, if you look at it the skins played the second hardest schedule last year and made the playoffs. You're not giving the skins credit for the team thy have. That's why keeping the roster together is important. You say you're realistic. Realisticaly, the skins made the playoff 2 out of 3 years. That puts them as one of the better teams in the league.

Posted by: marlonjohn | March 31, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Two Cents Alert!!!

Provided he's not declaring it a 5-11 type season, I think Seth is right. And no, I haven't been drinking. I'm actually agreeing with Seth's last statement.

I've been saying all off-season this season smells like 8-8. I doubt 8 wins gets you in the postseason this year. Especially not in the NFC East. And I wouldn't bet on Philly being down again.

I also agree with Greg that a lot has yet to happen. However, there were no significant additions in free agency (which isn't necessarily a bad thing) and unless the Skins draft studs with immediate impact in the first couple rounds, I doubt they are better than they were last year.

And please, let's stop with the 2006 Saints comparisons. Payton at least had experience as a coordinator (good or not) and had called plays before. Not to mention that Saints team had a better QB situation and had the benefit of playing in a crappy division. And they still only won 10 games! If they played in the NFC East, they probably would have been 6-10 (I think the NFC East won at least 3 games against them, if not all 4 that year).

Let's also remember the Skins are playing the AFC North division. No easy games there. I'll take 8 games and like it with this year's schedule.

Hope for the best, brace for the worst.

Oh, and sorry for the long post.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 31, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

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p.s. Third best in NFC East is better than best in AFC West.

Posted by: dcsween | March 31, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Realisticaly, the skins made the playoff 2 out of 3 years. That puts them as one of the better teams in the league.

Posted by: marlonjohn | March 31, 2008 11:50 AM

Realistically, "one of the better teams in the league" doesn't have a brain fart on defense the whole 2006 season and go 5-11. They didn't finish the season a game out, or miss out because of tie breakers. In one of the most mediocre seasons in NFC history, where 8-8 gets you in the playoffs as a wild card, this team tanked. And THAT more than anything makes me nervous that this team could go anywhere in between 6-10 and 10-6.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 31, 2008 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Hi Guys. I've been reading RI for quite a while, but only in the last couple of weeks have I noticed the "comments" area of the blog. I've been lurking for about 10 days, now, watching you analysis(which I find to be very well informed). I haven't followed college football too closely, so I don't have much to add on specific players. I'm a big Skins fan, and want to be optimistic about the upcoming season.

But I have to agree with Seth's assessment of the probably season results. I believe that the Boys are the team to beat in our division. I think that the Skins are on a par with the Giants and Eagles.

Having said that, it is a huge mountain to climb for a new coaching staff to be up and running in the first few games of the year. So I think that Seth is really making a good assessment. We have to save our top '09 draft picks. Someone in the top 10 or 15 or even top 20 players in next years draft will have a greater benefit to the Skins in the long run that someone who falls to the 35th or 40th selection of this years draft.

Posted by: fred | March 31, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Welcome Fred. Good stuff.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 31, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Hitting, or violence against women is just inexcusable to me.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | March 31, 2008 11:19 AM

You're not married, right?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | March 31, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Hitting, or violence against women is just inexcusable to me.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | March 31, 2008 11:19 AM

You're not married, right?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | March 31, 2008 12:20 PM

T_E,

I believe it was Chris Rock who said it best: "I don't condone it, but I understand."

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 31, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Welcome Fred,

Do me one favor please do not refer to the Cowgirls as the boys, that is what there idiot fan base calls them. If you need some suggestions try the following.

Cowgirls
Loosers from Dallas
Cowpies
T.O.'s thugs

Posted by: kmdp4 | March 31, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Welcome Fred,

Do me one favor please do not refer to the Cowgirls as the boys, that is what there idiot fan base calls them. If you need some suggestions try the following.

Cowgirls
Loosers from Dallas
Cowpies
T.O.'s thugs

Posted by: kmdp4 | March 31, 2008 12:28 PM
-----------------------------------------

You can also refer to them as the Anti-Christ or Satan's Army.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 31, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

I'll learn the vernacular. Believe me, I hate the Cowgirls. I just think that, in evaluating the likelihood of having a hugely successful season and drafting at the end of the first round, we are most likely to be more in the 10 to 20 range. We have a solid team, as evidence by the fact that the FO did not feel a need to pay huge bonuses in order to upgrade our players. To me, that was smart. I like our coaching staff. I just think that historically, there is a lead-in time for the players to adjust to a new system. So it is unlikely that we get off to a roaring start this season.

Posted by: fred | March 31, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: MsTeen_South_Carolina | March 31, 2008 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Did everyone move over to the new thread by Cindy?

Posted by: tafka | March 31, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

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