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Steve's Guest Blog

Steve did some serious research on the Skins and the draft - as we slowly turn out attention away from free agency -and I promised him a while back I would post then got caught up in all the news. So here, it is. Enjoy.

Steve writes:

Once again we're getting closer to another draft and everyone has an opinion on who the Redskins should take. I thought it would be interesting to take a look at what they've done in the past, with apologies to Clint Eastwood, the good, the bad and the ugly. I decided to go back to 1999 because the was the last year the team had a general manager and it was the year Dan Snyder bought the team. The players in bold type were on the Redskins 2006 roster, practice squad or have been resigned for 2007. There are a few picks from the 2000 and 2001 drafts that I couldn't find out what the Redskins got in return for trading them, it obviously wasn't much.

I've also provided links to the actual drafts so the we can partake in endless what-might-have-beens. For example, in 2001 we had the 15 th pick and took Rod Gardner. But we could have drafted Santana Moss, Steve Hutchinson, Deuce McAllister, Reggie Wayne, Todd Heap or Adam Archuleta. Sorry about that, I just had to throw Adam in.

I hope there aren't too many mistakes, for those that slipped through, my apologies.


1999 Draft
Round Pick Results
1 5 From Carolina as compensation for Sean Gilbert, traded to New Orleans for picks #12, 71, 107, 144, 179, 218 and picks #2 and 64 in 2000
1 7 From Chicago for picks #71, 106, 143, took Champ Bailey
1 11 Traded to Minnesota for Brad Johnson
1 12 From New Orleans for #5 pick, traded to Chicago for #7 pick
2 37 From Chicago for picks #40, 144, took Jon Jansen
2 40 Traded to Chicago for pick #37
3 71 From New Orleans for pick #5, then traded to Chicago
3 73 Traded to Minnesota for Brad Johnson
4 106 Traded to Chicago for pick #7
4 107 From New Orleans for pick #5, took Nate Stimson
5 143 Traded to Chicago for pick #7
5 144 From New Orleans for pick #5, traded to Chicago for pick #37
5 165 From Denver for picks #179, 218, took Derek Smith
6 179 From New Orleans for pick #5, traded to Denver for pick #165
6 181 Jeff Hall
7 217 Tim Alexander
7 218 From New Orleans for pick #5, traded to Denver for pick #165
http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/years/1999

2000 Draft
Round Pick Results
1 2 From New Orleans for #5 pick in 1999, took LaVar Arrington
1 3 From San Francisco for pick #12, 24, took Chris Samuels
1 12 From Carolina as compensation for Sean Gilbert, traded to San Francisco for pick #3
1 24 To San Francisco for pick #3
2 56 To Minnesota for Brad Johnson in 1999 trade
3 64 From New Orleans in trade for Redskins 1999 #5 pick
3 87 To Chicago for their 1999 #7 pick
4 119 Traded to San Francisco for...
4 129 Compensatory pick, took Michael Moore
5 154 Traded to San Francisco for...
5 155 From Minnesota for...
6 192 Traded to Philadelphia for
6 202 Compensatory pick, took Todd Husak
7 216 From Pittsburgh for...
7 231 Traded to Denver for...
7 250 Compensatory pick, took Ethan Howell
http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/years/2000

2001 Draft
Round Pick Results
1 15 Rod Gardner
2 45 Fred Smoot
3 77 To Kansas City as compensation for Marty Schottenheimer
4 109 Sage Rosenfels
5 145 To St. Louis for their #154 and 186 picks
5 154 From St. Louis, took Darnerien McCants
6 177 Trade to Miami for...
6 186 From St. Louis, took Mario Mounds
7 215 Traded to Denver for...
7 224 From Miami, traded to San Francisco...
http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/years/2001
2002 Draft
Round Pick Results
1 18 Traded to Oakland for their #21 and 89 picks
1 21 Traded to New England for their #32, 96 and 234 picks
1 32 From New England, took Patrick Ramsey
2 52 To Baltimore for their #56, 87, and 159 picks
2 56 From Baltimore, took Ladell Betts
3 79 From Jacksonville for picks #89 and 118, took Rashad Bauman
3 84 To Kansas City (then to St. Louis) as compensation for Marty Schottenheimer
3 87 From Baltimore for pick #52, took Cliff Russell
3 89 From Oakland to Jacksonville for pick 79
3 96 To Baltimore for their #56, 87, and 159 picks
4 118 To Jacksonville for pick #79
5 154 To NY Jets for David Loverne
5 159 Andre Lott
5 160 From NY Jets in trade for David Loverne, took Robert Royal
6 192 Reggie Coleman
7 230 Jeff Grau
7 234 From New England for pick #21, took Greg Scott
7 257 Compensatory pick, took Rock Cartwright
http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/years/2002

2003 Draft
Round Pick Results
1 13 To Jets as compensation for RFA Laveranues Coles
2 44 Taylor Jacobs
3 75 To New England for their 3 rd and a 5 th round picks
3 81 From New England, took Derrick Dockery
4 107 To St. Louis in a trade for Trung Candidate
5 140 From New England, to Jets as compensation for RFA Chad Morton
5 144 To Detroit in trade for Brendan Stai in Aug 2002
6 185 To Green Bay as compensation for RFA Matt Bowen
7 226 To Miami as compensation for RFA Jermaine Haley
7 232 Gibran Hamdan
http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/years/2003

2004 Draft
Round Pick Results
1 5 Sean Taylor
2 41 To Denver for Clinton Portis
3 72 Traded to Jacksonville for Mark Brunell
3 81 From New Orleans to take Chris Cooley
4 104 To New England for two 2003 picks
5 139 To New Orleans in Cooley trade
5 151 From New Orleans in Cooley trade, took Mark Wilson
6 171 Traded to Denver for Lionel Dalton in Aug 2003
6 180 From Chicago in trade for Bryan Johnson, took Jim Molinaro
7 240 Traded to New Orleans for Martin Chase in Aug 2003
http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/years/2004

2005 Draft
Round Pick Results
1 9 Carlos Rogers
1 25 From Denver, took Jason Campbell in 2005
2 40 To New Orleans to take Chris Cooley in 2004
3 76 To Denver to take Jason Campbell in 2005
4 112 To Minnesota for their picks #120 and 154
4 120 Manuel White
5 146 To Philadelphia for James Thrash
5 154 Robert McCune
6 183 Jared Newberry
7 222 Nehemiah Broughton
http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/years/2005

2006 Draft
Round Pick Results
1 22 To Denver to take Jason Campbell in 2005
2 35 From Jets to take Rocky McIntosh
2 53 Traded to Jets for pick #35 pick, took Rocky McIntosh
3 84 To 49ers for Brandon Lloyd
4 119 To Denver to take Jason Campbell in 2005
5 153 Anthony Montgomery
6 173 From Jets for Patrick Ramsey, took Reed Doughty
6 189 Traded to Jets to get #53 pick, took Rocky McIntosh
6 196 From Carolina for Rod Gardner, took Kedric Golston
7 230 Kili Lefotu
http://www.nfl.com/draft/drafttracker/round/round1

2007 Draft
Round Pick Results
1 6
2 Traded to Jets to get #53 pick in 2006, took Rocky McIntosh
3 To Denver for TJ Duckett in 3 team trade
4 To 49ers for Brandon Lloyd
5
6
7
Denver also gets a 4 th round pick in 2008

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Comments

JLC, can you confirm that we are losing our Fourth Rounder next year to Denver? There is so much debate in cyberspace about that pick...

Good job Steve. I bet there are doctoral dissertations that required less research than the recent Redskins Draft History!

Posted by: duck | March 5, 2007 8:13 AM | Report abuse

My initial thoughts: Rashaud Bauman was a frickin 3rd round pick!?! BLEAH!!

Posted by: Bucktown Skins Fan | March 5, 2007 8:33 AM | Report abuse

I thought Lloyd was both a 3rd and a 4th round pick ... will not, however, argue with the research (though if its true that the Skins only gave up one pick for Lloyd, I feel a little better about today being Monday).

Posted by: dcsween | March 5, 2007 8:55 AM | Report abuse

This is a repost from yest!!! Give us something new Jason...

Posted by: Rob | March 5, 2007 8:55 AM | Report abuse

Now that I have my blog relevant post up, I want to gripe about this past weeekend. The ES invasion was fairly painful to watch, mostly b/c of the interference with any back-and-forth conversation. There were several new posts within the same minute and it was real hard to follow the actual conversations going on. [Spent time with my young kids this weekend so I was only really able to lurk, then when I did post, I tried to be thoughtful, but it was always near the end and peeps were already moving on to the next Jason post ... btw, we to blog your guts out Jman!]

The PRIMARY reason I'm upset about this past weekend was because of the HUGE news bit (about the Geico Caveman) that hit Friday ... and went unnoticed ALL weekend ...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/02/AR2007030201322.html

Posted by: dcsween | March 5, 2007 9:00 AM | Report abuse

The Geico Caveman is a local creation (Richmond VA) which means he is probably a Skins fan!

Okay, reaching...

dcsween, Lloyd was acquired for a 3rd last year and a 4th this year, as Steve indicated. A whole lot for a whole lotta nuthin' so far...

Posted by: duck | March 5, 2007 9:08 AM | Report abuse

Now for actual Skins relevance ... does it occur to anybody that the new starting three CBs are all coming off some injuries that are kind of significant to a CB from whom we want interceptions?

Springs: groin and broken shoulder blade
Rogers: broken thumb bone
Smoot: broken shoulder blade (and broken jaw)

I'm guessing that the Skins have a top dollar orthopedic surgeon on the medical staff, but do they have a regular doctor who can just do routine workups looking for nagging lurking unfixed injury problems? There's a difference btwn fixing something that's broken and discovering that its broken (or effectively fixed) in the first place.

I think Cap Hell Sucks posts yesterday, while too negative, do make a good point. Alot of the Skins newly shown 'restraint' just may be the reality of not having enough cap room to be insane (i.e., as opposed to actual sanity). Skins still have pressing needs along the D line.

Posted by: dcsween | March 5, 2007 9:09 AM | Report abuse

duck, thanks about pointing out the Lloyd point ... now I'm back to having a regular crappy Monday.

Posted by: dcsween | March 5, 2007 9:10 AM | Report abuse

On Kenny Wright landing in Cleveland:

"The addition of Kenny Wright to the Browns will add experience and depth to our corner position," Browns General Manager Phil Savage said in a statement. "We feel he'll bring a veteran presence to that group as well."

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/sports/117308756892460.xml&coll=2

Translation: We kind of needed to fill a roster spot with someone who would take vet minimum and who wasn't injured. He's survived 8 seasons in this league and Gregg Williams wanted him last year, so how bad could he be?

Posted by: dcsween | March 5, 2007 9:16 AM | Report abuse

Guys, the Caveman sitcom was reported all over on Friday. Old News since today is Monday.......

BTW, JLaC - Did you see that your Bloging got put on PFT.com/rumors?? Pretty Cool, eh?

Does this mean you will leave us to write for SI like Nunyo (Business) did?

Posted by: 4th Floor via 4th Floor | March 5, 2007 9:19 AM | Report abuse

Cap hell is nonsense -- IIRC they entered the weekend with almost $10M in cap space, to the point that they didn't cut Hall or do anything with Wynn/Daniels.
You keep the cap hit for 2007 low with a huge signing bonus + long contract + vet minimum salary. For example, Smoot's contract (5 year $25M with a $5M signing bonus) can have a cap hit as low as ~$1.6M ($1M of the bonus + vet minimum salary).

Posted by: cload and daggar | March 5, 2007 9:21 AM | Report abuse

I got your back, dcsween, I got your back.

I will admit there was this itsy-bitsy part of me that wanted Wright to come back as depth CB...Maybe because I am concerned that he will now go out and tear it up ala Walt Harris.

Posted by: duck | March 5, 2007 9:22 AM | Report abuse

Nice work on the draft.

Just reinforces the inability of this FO to evaluate talent after the third round.

How about just staying put and picking when your slot comes up. Wheeling and dealing up and down with picks going allover the place, trading for guys that likely would be june cuts and they could have picked up for nothing (Jermaine Haley and Lionel Dalton). Just stay where you are at 6 and keep the other picks to, until they prove they can actually select someone of value do not make a trade.

Posted by: Old School | March 5, 2007 9:30 AM | Report abuse

Harris was a quality back in Chicago who played hurt a lot of the time he was here, on a defense that didn't give him a lot of help in the way of pressure (a precursor of last year, as it turned out).
Wright was just a guy, and is just a guy. Maybe in Cleveland he can aspire to occasional flashes of adequacy.

Posted by: cload and daggar | March 5, 2007 9:33 AM | Report abuse

WhileI qppreciate steve's Blog for what it is. I think this is a litle too much for me. I may be a nerd, but I am def not a geek or a dork, which I feel this will only apeall too.

I don't care about going that far in the past. Look, I scanned through the Redskins' draft when it happened since prob '95. You ain't telling me nothing new. What are you trying to accomplish from this?? Compare this to other teams draft and what kind of comparrison do you get. Compare us to the Raiders, we might have done better than them, Eagles maybe not. The best comparisson would be to a recent SB team, specifically the PAtriots.

I'm sorry to say, but this is Total Shabingus.......

Posted by: 4th | March 5, 2007 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Also, if you wanted to make this thing better, you would have put in who the other team got with the picks we gave up. Total Shabingus.........

Posted by: 4th | March 5, 2007 9:36 AM | Report abuse

4th, I know that the Caveman article was reported on Friday, but not HERE. [Just went back over Jason's nine (!) blog posts from Friday to search.] With the time I spend on RI, how can I be expected to read anything else? THIS house is where I get my news. Its all good (except for Skins draft history ... plus how the Skins need to be able to rely on this draft to repopulate some talent on the D-line ... with only one pick before the 5th round ... agreement here on shabingus ... d'oh!)

Posted by: dcsween | March 5, 2007 9:44 AM | Report abuse

Sween - Friday was the FIRST DAY OF FREE AGENCY, Otherwise known as the Redskins' SUPER BOWL...

What did you expect??

Posted by: 4th | March 5, 2007 9:48 AM | Report abuse

I'll give it a partial shabingus -- I don't care so much about what other teams did with those picks, but you have to list free agent signings (and departures) to get a reasonable picture of what the team did each year.
We always give BobbyB props because he drafted Jacoby in the 12th round. So last year, that pick was the 233rd undrafted free agent signing. Tell me which undrafted FAs we signed, and whether any of them stuck.
One thing that is kind of surprising about the draft list is that almost everyone on it is still in the league somewhere -- usually not here, but if you're going to analyze their assessment of talent, they seem to be doing something right.

Posted by: cload and daggar | March 5, 2007 10:01 AM | Report abuse

4th, just havin' fun with ya. [I see you are having one of those days called a "Monday" too.] Truthfully, I expected a little bit of loco mullin, daveb55, random 'tests', and some of the accompanying chatter that makes this place home.

In the end, compared to last year's opening day of free agency, this year's free agency was a Dennis Green year ("they picked up who they thought they would pick up!").

Subtract out the blog war, and it would have been a manageable blogging day. The blog war (and running commentary) took about about a half of the posts. Something like the Caveman gig might have lightened the mood.

I admit, I wanted to go off on "Todd," but by the time P.Diddy got it done, I figured I would have just been venting spleen (which is never good for blog karma anyway).

Posted by: dcsween | March 5, 2007 10:04 AM | Report abuse

Jeez 4th relax, you gonna hate on steve for dropping some knowledge?!?!

Gotta say we looked smart in 1999...


Posted by: Chris Larry | March 5, 2007 10:05 AM | Report abuse

Mr. Tony: "The Reskins have acquired Fred Smoot. This is a mistake. We are too close to the Chesapeake Bay..."

LMAO

Posted by: cload and daggar | March 5, 2007 10:10 AM | Report abuse

CL (The real one I hope), I kinda like to move forward sometimes from the Ugly Years, and all of the late '90s early '00s were ugly.

Plus, I you can look up every draft since 1936 @ http://redskins.scout.com/3/historicaldraft.html , save for the who we traded the picks to or how we got them.

Also, these drafts were done under 4 regimes (Casserly/Schottheimer/Spurrier/Gibbs 2.0). So, how do you even them out????

Posted by: 4th | March 5, 2007 10:13 AM | Report abuse

Def the real one here....

I see your point but just think you were harshing on steve a bit....


This is the new mellow chris larry "OM..."

Posted by: Chris Larry | March 5, 2007 10:16 AM | Report abuse

I think we all should bait CL into a blog war. lol

Posted by: jm220 | March 5, 2007 10:21 AM | Report abuse

jm220

Are you gonna harsh my mellow dude?

Posted by: Chris Larry | March 5, 2007 10:24 AM | Report abuse

no, but he's going to try...

Posted by: cload and daggar | March 5, 2007 10:26 AM | Report abuse

Would you believe I missed it by that much? lol

Posted by: jm220 | March 5, 2007 10:29 AM | Report abuse

I think the real question at this point is, and may have already been addressed elsewhere, is this; doesn't the fact that the skins failed to land a Dock replacement and are probably going to lose Wade, mean that they will be more motivated to trade down for more picks?

Or does it make them more likely to take an OLman with #6. You all are much more tuned into this than me, so I'm asking sincerely.

Posted by: evan | March 5, 2007 10:31 AM | Report abuse

Evan - Expect us to trade down, seriously. Especially if we get a trade with the Broncos...

Posted by: 4th | March 5, 2007 10:35 AM | Report abuse

evan,

I think they still go defense with their first pick, whether it be #6 or or lower with a trade. I think they really want to trade down because they want that 19 yr old DT and #6 is a big stretch... plus they could use a TE and a 2nd 0r 3rd rounder would bring in a starting caliber TE.


This Luke Petigout rumor is more along the lines of what I expect to see the Skins do at LG. Did Timmerman from STL get signed yet?

Posted by: Inigo Montoya | March 5, 2007 10:37 AM | Report abuse

I checked this am and Timmerman was still out there. And the 19 yr old is Okoye, right? I think his draft stock went up a lot, didn't it?

What trade with the broncos, for whom? Dre Bly?

Posted by: evan | March 5, 2007 10:42 AM | Report abuse

4th, cload, dcsween, everybody.

I don't want to bash or rehash but I think we are setting the bar pretty low when we say "hey, alot of the guys we drafted are still in the league just not for us."

I often repeat myself on here. The front offices that are good evaluate talent especially late and find "players" not just guys who make a team. To add insult to injury many of the SKINNY BOZO CLOWNS we draft haven't been able to make our team

When we where thought to have a good FO many moons ago, we excelled at finding talent late that really impacted our team and we did this consistently. We also made many mistakes (all teams do) but because we had so many examples of players on our team late rds Fa's etc, not only did our FO get a pass for the mistakes they made, they where lauded by the media and other personell people as smart and aggressive.

Posted by: Old School | March 5, 2007 10:42 AM | Report abuse

by the way, no harshin' the mellow...

marshin' the mallow, maybe

Posted by: evan | March 5, 2007 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Has anybody reported yet that Pat Ramsey stopped over in Denver for a talk to become their Back-Up over the weekend??

I say the Redskins get involved in this.......

Posted by: 4th | March 5, 2007 10:48 AM | Report abuse

CL is a SKINNY BOZO CLOWN. LMAO

Posted by: jm220 | March 5, 2007 10:49 AM | Report abuse

yeah, the potential trade with denver for Bly could include all kinds of movement if it were to work out. Swapping picks, giving them Springs and or Ladell, who knows.

The 19 yr old is Amboi Okeye, I just didnt feel like locating the spelling of his name! LOL. And yeah his stock is going way up and Branch's is falling.

Posted by: Inigo Montoya | March 5, 2007 10:50 AM | Report abuse

I know that I've stated this previously, but I'm all for a trade back to #12/#13, and picking up a second rounder. Give me Carriker, and Manny Ramirez, the guard, and I'll be happy.

As far as previous drafts are concerned, whats done is done. Just get this current draft right, and I'll be happy.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | March 5, 2007 10:51 AM | Report abuse

So to totally change subjects for a half a second:

Anyone else have trouble NOT smiling during Smooter's PC??? The dude is freakin hilarious, man I missed the Smoot Smack Talk!

Posted by: Inigo Montoya | March 5, 2007 10:52 AM | Report abuse

I forgot about these...

* A 1st and 3rd in 2000 and a 2nd in 2001 for Brad Johnson.
* A 3rd as compensation for Marty

I think I'm going to hurl.

Oh, and I wish Ditka was GM somewhere and that Adrian Peterson falls to 6, lol.

Posted by: BurgundyNGold | March 5, 2007 10:53 AM | Report abuse

Yo JM220 come correct:

CL is a FAT BOZO CLOWN

Posted by: Chris Larry | March 5, 2007 10:53 AM | Report abuse

Dockery is on sportstalk980 now. Why is it that everyone always says after they take the big money, when they've previously said that it's not all about the money, that they decided to take the big money after they "prayed about it???" I don't have an issue with people getting paid, but don't act like the biggest pay day possible is not what you were after all along when your actions show it clearly was.

And, I normally don't mind BMitch all that much, but for him to sit there and act like it is reasonable in anyone's universe for Dockery to get the contract he got is really ticking me off.

Posted by: JustMe | March 5, 2007 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Thanks for the update JustMe. Being back in the office sucks.

OK CL I am going to let it go before I lose some blog points. But it's been great joking around with you.

Where is Lisa?

Posted by: jm220 | March 5, 2007 10:57 AM | Report abuse

IM - Brad was in his prime back then. Nobody gives up a 1st nowadays, but Casserrly is from the Old School and he (as would Bethard) would not hesitate to trade a 1st rounder (plus other picks) for an established veteran, especiallt @ QB, which we despearately needed at that time. It paid off in my eyes but the Danny F'd it up by bringing in Jeff George....

I don't see the problem here. No one was complaining whe nRedskins Fans started to see the light......

Posted by: 4th | March 5, 2007 11:00 AM | Report abuse

JM220 I love jokes as well, dont stop on my account.

BMitch is of course gonna say players deserve it, he was a player. Also with Bmitch you have to remember he has an axe to grind with Snyder and deservedly so.

Also praying for a big contract....GROSS! Reminds of that lard azz Sean Gilbert.

Posted by: Chris Larry | March 5, 2007 11:02 AM | Report abuse

Sorry IM, that was for BurgundyNGold....

Posted by: 4th | March 5, 2007 11:02 AM | Report abuse

she was on the previous thread; asked me to call her crazy, but hasn't posted since...

Posted by: cload and daggar | March 5, 2007 11:04 AM | Report abuse

4th is right, the B. Johnson move was a no brainer and he paid off in spades from where I sit....who know if Snyder hadnt mucked it up with the George debacle BJ would still be here! He could have lead the skins back to long term respectability I feel....


What we did to him was one of the worst mistakes of the Snyder era.

Posted by: Chris Larry | March 5, 2007 11:04 AM | Report abuse

JustMe, I think you are misunderstanding Dockery when he says he "prayed about it". The football translation for that is "prayed for it."

Posted by: dcsween | March 5, 2007 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Agreed on that point.

Re: Sean Gilbert - I have nothing to say bad about the guy, since we got to 1st rounders out of it which resulted in Champ and LaVar.......

Question - Is he the only guy Franchise Tagged that someone actually signed and gave up two 1st rounders?

Posted by: 4th | March 5, 2007 11:08 AM | Report abuse

The result worked out good for the skins, but I got plenty bad to say about Sean "God made me hold out" Gilbert.

Posted by: Chris Larry | March 5, 2007 11:10 AM | Report abuse

dcsween,

Don't feel bad. I work a the home of the caveman and we didn't even get an announcement on Friday. I had to rely on Elliot in the morning to find out about the sitcom.

It's the mother of all bad ideas. The caveman spots are fantastic but they are starting to get overexposed as it is. A sitcom will destroy them completely and ruin my profit sharing.

On football matters, I'm happy we got Silky Johnson back in the mix. I'm not sold on Fletcher but he's the only other big-ticket item of the FA period so I'll give him a chance. Good for Dockery that he got so much money and I'm glad the Skins didn't pay him that much. and THANK THE LORD we didn't give that kind of money to L Davis.

Posted by: etrod | March 5, 2007 11:12 AM | Report abuse

The 1st in 2001 for Brad Johnson! Does anyone remember who the Vikings chose with that pick? Wasn't it Daunte Culpepper? Who had more upside -- Johnson or Culpepper?

Posted by: KK | March 5, 2007 11:13 AM | Report abuse

I have a raise review tomorrow. I wonder if I could get Dock to pray for me. I'm quite reasonable, I'd settle for the veteran minimum.

Posted by: SMACK | March 5, 2007 11:17 AM | Report abuse

He said that? I don't mind when people pray to God to keep them healthy or ask for protection. But, when it comes to $$ and winning football games, what does God care.

I would think God would hope you use your experinces in your work place as a learning experince. For example, I wuold prob be able to work more effeiciently if I didn't stretch myself so thin with my main job/doing taxes/blogging my guts out.......

Posted by: 4th | March 5, 2007 11:17 AM | Report abuse

OldSchool -- having a Brady or Manning on your team makes a lot of picks look better. NE was lauded heavily for picking up Reche Caldwell last year -- for us, he'd have been another guy that likes to drop passes; and Addai would have about the same name recognition as the current #1 RB in Green Bay (Morency???) on a lot of other teams.

Posted by: cload and daggar | March 5, 2007 11:18 AM | Report abuse

KK: Which QB has a SB ring BJ or Culpepper? I like Dante as well but that comparrison is suspect. Considering BJ lead us to the playoffs and probably would have lead to more if they hadnt messed with him you gotta say that worked. Also remember who knocked us out of PO that year, Tampa. Who did BJ take over with basically same team and win SB...Tampa...so its very possible he could have done it with us with out Snyders messing up that offseason of a PO team...

You don't remember Sean Gilbert saying God was advising him to hold out and not sign? One of the all time sports related abuses of God.

Posted by: Chris Larry | March 5, 2007 11:23 AM | Report abuse

We traded a 1, 2 and 3 for one and a half seasons of brad johnson. oy.

He led us to the playoffs his first year, and if we hadn't screwed everything up with the Jeff George stuff, and instead built around brad long term, i actually think that could have worked out.

HOWEVER, the picks we traded away resulted in:

1. Daunte Culpepper
2. Some DE from Miami that I think turned out to be a bust.
3. Minny traded this one to Pittsburgh, who drafted . . . JOEY PORTER!

Some people consistently find gems in later rounds. We don't.

Posted by: LincolnParker | March 5, 2007 11:24 AM | Report abuse

jm220, I've actually been busy with work this morning...imagine that :-)

Posted by: Lisa | March 5, 2007 11:25 AM | Report abuse

So I finish reading Boswell's column this morning and I'm thinking, "Seems reasonable, maybe I should fork over the $145 for DirecTV Super Sunday so I can catch the Skins down here without having to blow $4.50 a pop for Yuengling drafts at some palm-festooned sports dive (with Jets and New England fans arguing for control of the screen over the bar and deriding me for trying to get in a couple plays of a Skins-Eagles game).

And then I'm hit with this image of Lucy Van Pelt holding the football and goading Charlie Brown into taking another shot at it, assuring him that this time, there's no way she's going to pull the ball away and leave him flat on his back.

If only DirecTV had the "If Your Team Totally Sucks and Is Out Of It By Week 9 Rebate." But it's just not that kind of world.

Posted by: Riding Sean Taylor's ATV Without Permission | March 5, 2007 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Dcsween, I think you're absolutely right. LOL

Another statement Dock made that really irked me was about how he was drawn to the rich tradition and history of the Bills organization, and he wanted to help them get back to that, or something to that effect. Yeah, okay. If you call never winning a Super Bowl and losing more consecutive Super Bowls than any team in recent memory a rich tradition to aspire to, then I guess you're welcome to believe that. LOL

Again, wanting to get as much money as possible is fine with me. I just hate it when these players pretend that's not what it is.

Nate Clements didn't put a smiley face on it. He made it plain that he was going to the highest bidder. That, I can respect that.

But, don't pretend that it was about prayer and tradition when you've been saying for many weeks that you wanted to stay and that you told your agent to do whatever it took to close the deal.

I know that there are probably plenty of people who believe the Skins might have lowballed him, but in a year when a thin market wasn't paired with a significant cap increase, I suspect if Dock had still left, he would have gotten money closer to what the Skins were reportedly offering him than to what he got from the clueless Bills.

Posted by: JustMe | March 5, 2007 11:26 AM | Report abuse

those interested in Forbes top 100 GMs in sports go to ESPN? Vinney got #79 & be sitting when you see who got #13 ?

Posted by: Anonymous | March 5, 2007 11:28 AM | Report abuse

The picks Minnesota got in 2000, they used on DT Chris Hovan(1) and RB Doug Chapman(3)

The 2nd rounder in 01 was used for DE Willie Howard

Posted by: etrod | March 5, 2007 11:29 AM | Report abuse

JLaC is def going to leave us now. Even ESPN picked up his notes on Bly.....

Posted by: 4th | March 5, 2007 11:38 AM | Report abuse

While reading up on all the talking heads opinoins of what has happened in Free Agency, I had to laugh.

1. If the Redskins had offered a guard, ANY guard, let alone a guard that never made the pro-bowl, a 49 million dollar contract, we'd have been LAMBASTED by the usual suspects, Len, Peter, Dick Banks, Prisco.
2. Had we singed Leonard Davis, we'd have been the laughing stock of the league. Dallas did it, and nothing gets said.
3. Last year we paid 30 million for ARE. This year, New England is going to pay Wes Welker 38 million, ALONG with a 2nd round pick. People fell all over themselves to say how we over paid for ARE, but this year, NE is making schrewd moves.

People write what they want to write, when it comes to us, we can do nothing right.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | March 5, 2007 11:39 AM | Report abuse

I didn't mind the repost... Steve-o really didn't get a fair deal in the midst of all the craziness over the weekend... thanks for the insights. The biggest thing (and yes, its not new) was the success we had with early picks back in 99/00. We had a great amount of talent, but threw it away with FO shuffling and overall upheaval. So its not new news. So its in the past. So we can't change it. I didn't really mind. Thats just me (Dorf)

So I have this co-worker who is a "die-hard Cowboys fan"... I was shooting the breeze with him this morning (chewing the fat really) and mentioned that the Boys signed Davis and the Skins got Smoot back. His response was:

"That was the dumbest thing the Broncos ever did, getting rid of Fred Smoot."

gotta love those cowboy fans, super smart. I think he meant champ bailey and the redskins... maybe he just had a case of the mondays.

Posted by: Dorf | March 5, 2007 11:39 AM | Report abuse

I show up in the office for the first time in a week and a half and all of a sudden, my calendar is totally full. Did want to drop in real quick and thank Steve for putting this post together. Some great (and not so great) memories in that list.

Posted by: P Diddy | March 5, 2007 11:39 AM | Report abuse

cload

The Pats drafted Brady in the 6th rd. That move buys them an eternity of F'ing up journey WR's

Posted by: Old School | March 5, 2007 11:40 AM | Report abuse

How in the world can Jerry Jones be the #13 GM in sports when his team hasn't won a playoff game in more than a decade? How did Vinny make the list at all?

Considering just those two rankings, my initial thought is that this list may not be so good. Then I look at #1 Kevin McHale and #3 Billy King??? What have the T-wolves and 76ers won?

I understand the metric they used to formulate the list. But, they should have compared the results of applying that metric to the only thing that matters (wins and championships) and scrapped the article altogher. What garbage.

Posted by: JustMe | March 5, 2007 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Better yet, the Pats drafted Brady with their SECOND 6th round pick.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | March 5, 2007 11:43 AM | Report abuse

The more I read about the Shawn Springs situation, the more it sounds like he is not a "true" Redskin. When other players that can actually play a few games in a row have taken a paycut, you have to be willing to jump on the grenade if it will help the team overall.

I don't think a $2 million cut will force him to eat hot pockets and yoohoo for dinner.

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | March 5, 2007 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Greg (Boston),

I was thinking the same exact thing.....

Posted by: Rob | March 5, 2007 11:44 AM | Report abuse

2. Had we singed Leonard Davis, we'd have been the laughing stock of the league. Dallas did it, and nothing gets said.

People write what they want to write, when it comes to us, we can do nothing right.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | March 5, 2007 11:39 AM

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Greg,

While I agree with you that we generally get skewered no matter what we do, I have to say that I was watching Cold Pizza this morning and that Davis signing was lambasted as the worst signing of free agency so far. So, it seems the "love" is being spread out a little bit.

Posted by: JustMe | March 5, 2007 11:46 AM | Report abuse

SORRY FOR THE CAPS BUT WANTED YOUR ATTENTION

Anybody down with a Redskins Insider March Madness Yahoo pool? I could create a group and give out the password and link (or maybe do it through email so we don't get a bunch of yahoos) but who cares, i know its NCAA ball and has nothing to do with anything, but hey... its march. Plus I want to see the funny team names. Lemme know. I could throw it together after work.

Posted by: Dorf | March 5, 2007 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Please forgive my ignorance but will someone please tell me what "shabingus" means?

Posted by: Cheyene, WY | March 5, 2007 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Peter King this morning is scratching his head over the money that the Three Guards got. Mind you, not the vitriol he usually reserves for the Redskins, but he did notice that there's a bunch of other dummy GMs.

Posted by: KK | March 5, 2007 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Beantown Greg

We both know living up here, that there is plenty of local New England synics (Media and Fans) waiting for the Pats to fail. Another year without a championship and they will be out of the woodwork to be all over the Pats. Their success has (rightfully) kept them labled as a "Smart" organization. But expectations can and will eat away at that.

Posted by: Old School | March 5, 2007 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Justme,

Ok, thats a start, but you have to admit, that had we signed Davis, or any of those guards, and the media trio of Banks/King/Len, would have all written about how Dan Snyder has no idea what he's doing. If we had done any of these ridiculous deals, EVERYONE would have been piling on the Redskins

Had we been forced to give up a 2nd round pick in order to sign ARE, they'd still be screaming about it.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | March 5, 2007 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Cheyenne, people "fall on the grenade" when their options are limited. If you can get your same salary in the market, you do that. Springs isn't saying he can't feed his family on less than $5 mil. He's saying if you won't give me $5 mil somebody else will. I don't blame him for that.

Springs salary wouldn't be an issue if they didn't pay more than necessary to a 32 y-o MLB who didn't have any other real suitors.

Posted by: LH | March 5, 2007 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Wyoming - Who took a paycut other the Brunell? No one who is a starter. Springs knows the market and he won't get d*cked becuase of that. I see nothing wrong with that. He maybe a chore Redskin, but why does the guy deserve less $$ when non-probowlers who play gaurd (not CB) are getting paid more than him. Dude gotta make his $$ if teams are willing to throw it at him. He already deffered payments due to him, just like LaVar...

Posted by: 4th | March 5, 2007 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Dorf, I'm down.

Posted by: PSF | March 5, 2007 11:55 AM | Report abuse

I emailed Jason about it... I'll have it up this afternoon if Jason is cool with it (not sure if WaPo would have issues?? I'm pretty psyched about it now... hard to stay focused on work... per usual.

I'm pretty sure laptops are the greatest thing ever. Can't wait til I get one for my very own.

Posted by: Dorf | March 5, 2007 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: dcsween | March 5, 2007 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Jason? Can you hear me? Question for you:

Any chance we still get Bly? I'm not encouraged by Smoot, Rogers and Springs. Spring is old and often injured. Rogers sucks and Smoot was demoted by the Vikings and I would say was only adequate as a Skin. Do you have a different opinion of this trio?

Posted by: nyskinsfan | March 5, 2007 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Greg,

I do have to agree with you. I was reading some stuff online yesterday and I saw something (can't remember where, exactly) about the Redskins making their annual splash in free agency. I'm sitting here thinking, splash? What splash? They've signed 2 players to relatively modest contracts, and have announced that no more signings are imminent at this time.

This team just can't win in the court of public opinion. Fortunately, I don't give a crap about public opinion. I want them to win more games, not fans in the media. Hopefully, this more measured approach (whether it is due to cap restraints or not) and the resulting continuity will help add to the win column.

Posted by: JustMe | March 5, 2007 12:02 PM | Report abuse

It's just tough to listen to someone who has trouble being consitently productive have such a over-developed sense of personal entitlement.

Such is pro football I guess!

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | March 5, 2007 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and, if we were to somehow still end up with Bly and lose Betts, I'm not sure how I would feel about that. I do think we need Bly more.

Posted by: nyskinsfan | March 5, 2007 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Greg(Boston), I'm sure folks will be laying into Dallas later, just no need for it till Sean Taylor blows right threw him and pops a few ligaments on the placeholder.

JustMe, my prediction is that Springs starts as a Redskin this season. With the sickness of the new market, his contract numbers are probably about right (compared to before when he was overvalued).

Also, God was unnecessary on the Dockery deal. The perfect storm was (1) Todd France (the agent) orchestrating a bidding war, (3) FA panic over guards generally, and (3) a miserly old guard owner (Ralph Wilson) having a grudge against the young turk overspender ($nyder).

Round Two of FA will be delayed because teams are still reeling and trying to figure how Round One turned out to be so lucrative to players. Evidence? Pay attention to how many players got contract extensions in advance of their FA years this season (esp. our own Randy Thomas and Mike Sellers). As a result of Round One, almost every starter with an overvalued contract suddenly became correctly valued ... and regular contracts suddenly became undervalue bargains.

Posted by: dcsween | March 5, 2007 12:07 PM | Report abuse

Springs' salary wouldn't be an issue if he played 14-15-16 games.

Posted by: cload and daggar | March 5, 2007 12:08 PM | Report abuse

speaking of Brady, the skins picked two slots later and selected the other HOF QB, Todd Husak.

Ah, what might've been.

Posted by: cload and daggar | March 5, 2007 12:11 PM | Report abuse

I feel the urge to confess...I don't really like the Caveman. He doesn't creep me out like the King does, but still.....

Posted by: Cindy | March 5, 2007 12:12 PM | Report abuse

I just love the fact that age and injuries are now an issue.

If I'm not mistaken, Springs had only played 1 full season in the 7 years he spent in Seattle and I'm pretty sure they would have known how old he was going to be at this point in his contract.

Maybe they should stop assuming players will want to restructure down the line when they sign these big deals.

Posted by: etrod | March 5, 2007 12:15 PM | Report abuse

"They've signed 2 players to relatively modest contracts, and have announced that no more signings are imminent at this time." -JustMe | March 5, 2007 12:02 PM

Giving $10M bonuses and $25M deals to a 31 year old (Fletcher) and a nickleback (Smoot) are hardly modest. Both could have been had for a lot cheaper but Joe does not drive hard bargains. He simply spends what it takes to instantly get the guys he wants.

We didn't break the bank like in years past, but two over-paid $25M deals is hardly modest.

Posted by: Clinton Hill | March 5, 2007 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Don't forget about Heath Shuler!!!

He is in the House Of Representatives now.

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | March 5, 2007 12:16 PM | Report abuse

I also think Springs ends up being here when all is said and done. Paying the man what he is scheduled to earn would be the smartest thing at this point.

Posted by: JustMe | March 5, 2007 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Leonard Davis played guard his 1st 3yrs and LT the last 3 with the cards and can play all line positions except Center! if he ever reaches potential Watch Out & playing for Cards can make anybody underachieve! The cowboys LT is in the last yr of his contract and will be 33.

Posted by: FYI | March 5, 2007 12:17 PM | Report abuse

'Watch Out & playing for Cards can make anybody underachieve!'

See Simeon Rice

Posted by: etrod | March 5, 2007 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Man, have I got some hot pockets. Anyone know where a guy can get a yoohoo around here?

Posted by: DaveB55 | March 5, 2007 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Smoot's not going to be the nickleback. That job will be Carlos Rogers. Smoot's starting. He did a darn good job when he was here before and Champ lined up next to him and all the balls came to Smoot. Dude's tough and dude's good. Probably will do more for the 'Skins this year than Springs and Rogers, together.

Posted by: KK | March 5, 2007 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Hey Cindy, editoratrix question for you -- who writes the little blurb on the main sports page that contains the link to the article. For example, today's Boswell piece:
"The Redskins have decided on a different tact this offseason, trading in their annual manic signing parade for modest acquisitions and stability"
-- is it the author, or someone else who's super-considerate of the feelings of others?

Posted by: cload and daggar | March 5, 2007 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Clinton, I'm talking in terms of other deals from the past weekend, hence the word "relatively." The Skins didn't pay monster money for either player. And, everyone knows neither player will realize the entire $25million from either deal.

Posted by: JustMe | March 5, 2007 12:22 PM | Report abuse

It was Fall of '97. I knew Springbrook Blue Devils team was gonna suck this year. We started out the season against #1 METRO Area Team Sherwood (with ALL MET RB Tyre Foreman who didn't panne out with the Cavaliers in College).

So, we ALMOST beat these guys when we weren't suppose to. All the guys in the Locker Room were mad as S*IT cause we had a chance. 'Man, we could've beat those guys!' 'We would have changed our season based on this game!' 'We should've won that game.'

So, Coach Haberman was tired of all the whinning and said something that has stuck with me almost 10 years later.....

"Could've, Would've, Should've; BUT WE DIDN'T" Wow! Silence inside the whole locker room, because he was right.

Moral of the story - STOP WHINING ABOUT WHAT WE COULD'VE WOULD'VE SHOULD'VE DONE AND WORRY ABOUT TODAY GOING FORWARD.....

Posted by: 4th | March 5, 2007 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Man, I had a similar story and could've posted it first.

Posted by: etrod | March 5, 2007 12:29 PM | Report abuse

STOP WHINING ABOUT WHAT WE COULD'VE WOULD'VE SHOULD'VE DONE AND WORRY ABOUT TODAY GOING FORWARD.....

Posted by: 4th | March 5, 2007 12:27 PM


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I just thought this should be repeated.

Posted by: JustMe | March 5, 2007 12:30 PM | Report abuse

4th- we've got four months to kill... and now we can't go back and lash ourselves with wet noodles?

Posted by: cload and daggar | March 5, 2007 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Winning consistently is the only way to validate over player aquistion strategy. Until we do that the media will continue to play kick the can.

Posted by: Old School | March 5, 2007 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Man, I had a similar story and could've posted it first.

Posted by: etrod | March 5, 2007 12:29 PM

L M A O!

Posted by: cload and daggar | March 5, 2007 12:31 PM | Report abuse

The Media is no different then fans(opinions)you dont like one you go to the next,until you find the one you like!!!

Posted by: not a sermon | March 5, 2007 12:36 PM | Report abuse

then ≠ than

Posted by: grammAr policia | March 5, 2007 12:39 PM | Report abuse

4th your coach's name wouldn't happened to have been Lou Rawls?

Posted by: LH | March 5, 2007 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Cload, the answer to your question is that we have separate production staffs putting out the paper and the website. The person writing the home-page blurbs is an editor at dotcom (located in Arlington, 'cause I know who you guys like to know where we are at all times).

Posted by: Cindy | March 5, 2007 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Cindy. They hit one of my pet peeves, and I would've just let it go except I saw you post, and it's lunchtime, and I figured what the heck...

Posted by: cload and daggar | March 5, 2007 12:55 PM | Report abuse

4th, Chris Larry,

A 1st and a 2nd are starters. Maybe a 3rd too. Dockery is an example of that. For one weak armed QB that we cut 2 years later?

That's a bad deal, fellas. Easily in the ballpark of giving up a 3rd for Duckett.

Oh, and 4th, Casserly couldn't hold Beathards jock. If unemployed and miserable failures at both Washington and Houston are "old school", then it's time to transfer.

Posted by: BurgundyNGold | March 5, 2007 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and, if we were to somehow still end up with Bly and lose Betts, I'm not sure how I would feel about that. I do think we need Bly more.

Posted by: nyskinsfan | March 5, 2007 12:04 PM

What we NEED is more cowbell!

Cindy, I hear your pain about the Caveman, but as a hirsuit myself, I empathize (sp?) with the guy. The BK King, however, must be stopped. Other than the BK King, only Brandon Lloyd and Jimmy Farris run around in tights ... and you can see what that got us.

Posted by: dcsween | March 5, 2007 1:08 PM | Report abuse

So we make major changes to a team that won a playoff game and was the hottest team in the NFL at the end of the year in '05,
And make very few changes to a team that went 5-11 in '06.

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad we're taking a reasonable approach to free agency this year (mainly because there are not any good players out there in FA this year)...

I guess the logic is, the madness has to stop sometime?

Posted by: Diesel | March 5, 2007 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Random thoughts on commericals -

The GEICO cavemen - not funny; their show will flop if it makes it to broadcast

The King - strangely funny, albeit in a very creepy way; promising comedy show concept: "When Animals Attack the King"

They just don't make "spokespersons" like they used to:

http://www.rathergood.com/moon_song/

Posted by: The Mole | March 5, 2007 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Betts isnt going anywhere!! Denver has travis henry visiting today & theres too many RBs available without tradeing(theyre not the skins)!

Posted by: Anonymous | March 5, 2007 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Casserly was a crappy GM.

He got lucky in 99 when Ditka offered him the entire draft for Ricky Williams. Prior to that, zilch.

Posted by: etrod | March 5, 2007 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Hey 4th, thanks for the Coach Haberman reference. I played for him when he coached Walt Whitman's rugby team in the late 70's (won the East Coast championship!). He was one hell of a coach. Wasn't much of a teacher to newbies and he didn't like roundball athletes whatsoever, but man could he coach. He always called the perfect play for the A squad. (The B squad players were left to learn the hard way. Make a mistake and get clobbered, chances are you won't make the same mistake twice.)

We were playing St. Johns one day, and I was running my mouth...calling them all Johnny Mops and such. I was galloping towards the goal line, there was one person in front of me and my momentum was going to carry me to paydirt. Instead of tackling me, the guy hauls off and throws a haymaker, catching me flush. Everyone sees it, many gasp, the next thing I hear was Haberman's booming voice: "Keep running your mouth, Fred, keep running your mouth".

Posted by: Clarksburg, MD | March 5, 2007 1:19 PM | Report abuse

When are you going to start up the Sean Taylorisms again? They were desperately needed during the Great Blog War of 2007.

Posted by: etrod | March 5, 2007 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Diesel, I agree.

Fiscal restraint may be a byproduct of fiscal constraint. The wad was blown last year, there was not enough left to do anything crazy with.

Posted by: k Squared | March 5, 2007 1:21 PM | Report abuse

etrod -

That was To you, From Me. Sorry - it's Monday.

Posted by: The Mole | March 5, 2007 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Fake poster!

If you play 'stairway to heaven' backwards you can hear Sean Taylor banging your sister

Posted by: etrod | March 5, 2007 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Sorry I missed the blog wars. Stupid job.

Posted by: etrod | March 5, 2007 1:24 PM | Report abuse

LOL! (Sorry again)

Posted by: The Mole | March 5, 2007 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Sean Taylor can lead a horse to water ... AND make it drink.

Posted by: dcsween | March 5, 2007 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Okay, Jason gave me the go ahead to create a Redskins Insider Bracket pool... I'll get it set up this afternoon and Jason will run it on a thread later in the week. Bracket selection is done Sunday night and the Tournament starts next Tuesday. This should be fun guys and gals. Feel free not to take it seriously at all. Feel free to talk trash. Feel free to no join if it ain't your thing.

No money is riding on it, but perhaps we can work something in for the winner at the next pubcrawl.

VCU/GMU tonight on ESPN. Go CAA!

Posted by: Dorf on March Madness | March 5, 2007 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Brett Favre can throw a football over 50 yards. Sean Taylor can throw Brett Favre even further.

Posted by: etrod | March 5, 2007 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Sean Taylor destroyed the periodic table. Sean Taylor only recognizes the element of surprise.

Posted by: dcsween | March 5, 2007 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Sean Taylor is 1/8th Cherokee. This has nothing to do with ancestry, the man ate an Indian.

Posted by: etrod | March 5, 2007 1:44 PM | Report abuse

I thought that was Leonard Davis

Posted by: Dorf | March 5, 2007 1:46 PM | Report abuse

He ate a cowboy. Ever seen brokeback mountain?

Posted by: etrod | March 5, 2007 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Lisa,

In case you haven't been listening, Springs is going to be on 980 during the 2 o'clock hour.

Posted by: JustMe | March 5, 2007 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Paper beats rock. Rock beats scissors. Scissors beats paper. Sean Taylor beats all three ... at the same time ... as well as punters.

Posted by: dcsween | March 5, 2007 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Another confession: I was fearing that perhaps we had hit the wall (too many people focusing on their jobs). Then the bracket idea came through and the Sean Taylor threads and I think we can keep rolling.
Which is my way of announcing that we're at (drum roll, please) 35,657.

Posted by: Cindy | March 5, 2007 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Sean Taylor is the reason why Waldo is hiding.

Posted by: Ktron | March 5, 2007 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Drew Rosenhaus is actually Sean Taylor's replacement agent. Sean Taylor once walked into the office of his original agent, who accidentally asked him for the three hole punch.

Posted by: dcsween | March 5, 2007 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Well, I am glad that we didn't sign Davis, sorry we couldn't afford Dockery (and we shouldn't have tried to match it), glad we didn't break the bank on Clements, hope Smooty turns up big for us with his "reasonable" contract, hope LFB is a man-child at MLB, and I REALLY hope that we get an impact D lineman at pick #6.

So far so good I think. I really do think that if we have linebackers who can tackle and actually stop someone, and a d-line that can generate pressure on the QB consistently without a blitz, our problems with the DBs will markedly improve. I think Smoot is an upgrade over what we had. I hope Springs stays. I think we'll be better at safety with Prileou back and hopefully they'll find a good way to use ArchDeluxe.

Posted by: 'Canes Fan (not Miami) | March 5, 2007 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Sean Taylor recently visited the Virgin Islands. They are now The Islands.

Posted by: etrod | March 5, 2007 2:00 PM | Report abuse

If someone could para-phrase for those of us not able to listen at work, regarding Springs, that'd be great. Much appreciated.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | March 5, 2007 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Cindy, what were we at before this weekend's shabingi took place?

Posted by: Dorf | March 5, 2007 2:00 PM | Report abuse

What do the 'Skins have to offer the Patriots for their second first rounder? PFT has NE taking an OT and WR with those picks, but I can't see them holding on to both. Another first rounder could really ease the pain of not having a 2nd or 3rd this year, as long as they don't want too much for it.

NE needs secondary and receiver help--Johnson will probably be gone at #6, but LaRon Landry will be there; what about #6 for #24 and their 2nd rounder?

Posted by: Will | March 5, 2007 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Greg,

I'll relay anything significant he says. I understand being impaired by work. I would be too if I was there. Fortunately, I telework 2-3 days a week, so today is one of the days I'm at home.

Posted by: JustMe | March 5, 2007 2:06 PM | Report abuse

who is the Redskins kicker going to be next year?

Posted by: ? | March 5, 2007 2:07 PM | Report abuse

It's hard to pinpoint on Loseable Type, but I think we were around 34,900.

Posted by: Cindy | March 5, 2007 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Cload
Jacoby was a free agent signing not a draft pick.

Posted by: Steve | March 5, 2007 2:11 PM | Report abuse

? - Suisham will be the kicker going in to training camp. Not sure if they will bring in competition or not, though.

Posted by: etrod | March 5, 2007 2:12 PM | Report abuse

I'm kind of hopeful about Suisham, but the Skins scouts apparently spent some time chatting up Nick Folk, who is a distance kicker/kick off specialist.

bep beep. new post

Posted by: dcsween | March 5, 2007 2:17 PM | Report abuse

new post

Posted by: Anonymous | March 5, 2007 2:18 PM | Report abuse

LMAO at the Sean Taylorisms!!!!


Question, since I belong to ES and read here frequently (started kinda posting on RI recently) am I a middle state, like say Maryland, in a civil war???

Posted by: Inigo Montoya | March 5, 2007 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Inigo, there are no sides. Only friendlies and trolls. RI takes all comers (frankly, because the software doesn't block anybody), but folks here generally support each other here (except for this guy named BOOFER, who is mostly hilarious but otherwise immune to direct conversation).

The more apt analogy would be Poland (throughout European history) or Thailand (throughout SE Asian history).

Posted by: dcsween | March 5, 2007 2:26 PM | Report abuse

sween - us being Poland doesn't bode so well for us successfully resisting the ES harassment and subsequent invasion/takeover. We may end up giving away portions of the blog deemed by ES to be "ours by language and culture."

NOT calling anyone a Nazi, however.

Posted by: stevie in ct | March 5, 2007 2:31 PM | Report abuse

stevie, the point is that invaders come and go, but in the end, the underlying culture remains what it is ... friendly-like ... (the Thais are even craftier ... they play invaders off against each other).

Posted by: dcsween | March 5, 2007 2:33 PM | Report abuse

What about Vanderjagt? He's laying low somewhere and I don't think the Skins have to worry about no stinkin' Super Bowl this year. I'm not real high on that Suisham chap and I don't much care for his name.

Posted by: Vanderjagt | March 5, 2007 2:43 PM | Report abuse

I for one am psyched that Smoot is returning, he should be a solid corner and stick around for awhile.

Is it just my cpu, or is there no bold text in the post (as stated there would be)?

Posted by: J-Mart | March 5, 2007 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Duck and Old School

Glad you liked the blog. 4th, I added the links to so that anyone who wished to could see what the other team got with the picks. I thought it was long enough as it is.

Posted by: Steve | March 5, 2007 5:35 PM | Report abuse

J Mart
No it's not your computer, I don't know why the bold print didn't show up. You'll have to run that one by Jason.

Posted by: Steve | March 5, 2007 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Dorf --

I thought someone already created a March madness pool for RI...

http://tournament.fantasysports.yahoo.com/men/group/14376

Posted by: Paps in Manila | March 5, 2007 8:29 PM | Report abuse

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