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Strictly Un-Reid-stricted

Just how good are the Redskins? From his undisclosed, unrestricted location, Jason Reid gives the matter some thought. (Practice today, fyi, is from 1:20-3:15.)

By Cindy Boren  |  August 20, 2008; 11:26 AM ET
 
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no comments. I feel so unrestricted

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | August 20, 2008 11:30 AM | Report abuse

thongs!

Posted by: jm220 | August 20, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

second?

Posted by: skinfanman | August 20, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

If I'm first...I am actually last

Posted by: cej75024 | August 20, 2008 11:34 AM | Report abuse

so for the love of God LET IT GO!!!!

Posted by: Greg | August 20, 2008 11:33 AM

Greg good not have said it better myself.

Posted by: kmdp4 | August 20, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Is there anything worse than making a (what you deem) a funny comment or insightful thought or deeply diagnosed Redskins issue...click submit...then read " Beep Beep"

All that effort, thought wasted by Unrestricted

Posted by: cej75024 | August 20, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

I think there is a better chance of landing Bolt, than Boldin...

And as for Bolt, why he heck not!

Posted by: chrIS lArry | August 20, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

al, because you wont let it die, and you keep beating a dead horse that just is not happening, how do you propose the skins make cap space for the accelerated cap hit in trading Moss, and then the cap hit in signing Boldin to a contract. These issues PREVENT this deal from ever happening, so for the love of God LET IT GO!!!!

Posted by: Greg | August 20, 2008 11:33 AM

Greg, don't you want this guy here? Imagine how much more Valuable those bonus points become when the Skins start tossing out the wins.

Zorn would love this guy here. Since its his a$$ on the line, I'm guessing he pushes for it. The Spaghetti Gang has done some crazy things with the cap for guys with a lot less production than Q.

Get him here!!

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | August 20, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Maybe we can sign Saftey Isaac Holt

Posted by: cej75024 | August 20, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Cej brings up a good point....this unrestricted post ruined some pretty good mojo on the varied jibba jabba front...

Cindy, why not a have like a permanent sidebar for the rotating clips, not new posts?

Posted by: chrIS lArry | August 20, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

On the d-line in Madden, I take the strongest (85 and up STR) linemen and put him at LE, this way he can probably handle double teams better and if he's matched up solely against a TE, FB, or what I'm hoping for, a RB, the QB is as good as sacked.

The fastest DE goes on the right. He's not as strong as the LE (usually around 75 STR) but his speed is his strength (about 75-80)

My DTs are space eaters. 320 pounds and up with nothing less than 90 strength.

Of course all the other things matter too like acceleration (very important), tackle (not as important for d-linemen), and awareness.

Posted by: Red of the DMV | August 20, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

When Boldin gets here, grabs 109 catches, we go unbeaten in the division and play the Pats with 20 in the Super Bowl, y'all be saying how right I was.

Especially Greg and Alex.

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | August 20, 2008 11:43 AM | Report abuse

no one gives a dang if youre first, second or thong...

and nothing against jason reid, as hes an excellent writer, but these videos are about as bad as the guest blogs. i come to a newspaper site to READ the news, not watch it. but none of that is as bad as this comments section, with people like megskins, dcsween, and nate in the pdx thinking theyre cool here. this is probably the only place theyve gotten any respect in their life from another human being, lame how they soak it up while secretly wallowing in self pity. now, why do i mention megskins you ask, because shes the first one to ever do a guest blog, and the guest blogs are lame as hell and offer no real insight, usually just incessant rambling about heck all. Now while she had the only good guest blog ever, it lead to a string of incompetent ones. and if she wasnt the first one(working off memory here) shes still to blame because she elevated it to trend.

oh yeah, props to cindy boren for being so quirky and down right weird at times

Posted by: X-E | August 20, 2008 11:43 AM | Report abuse

My guess is Boldin is a financial impossibility. With less than 1 mill in Salary Cap and any trade expediting S. Moss' bonus amortization along with "resigning" Bolding, I'm pretty sure we'd have to cut just about every player on the team who didn't receive a signing bonus.

My suggestion to those focused on the Boldin trade is to spend your time and energy focusing on those things more likely to happen like Miss Teen South Corolina getting an academic scholarship to Harvard; UGA Winning the Nat. Championship, etc.

Posted by: Skinz | August 20, 2008 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Fashion Question

Anyone notice and have thoughts on our new style unies, the ones allot of the DL and Soup are wearing? The sleeves are tight around the biceps and rather than our classic sleeves they have the very small yellow strip ring with a partial red strip on the outside.

No 52 has the new one on here: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/gallery/2008/08/16/GA2008081602366.html

Collins still wears the classic look with the 2 inch old stripes

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 20, 2008 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Colt to pass ....Looking for Bolt....PICKED OFF by Holt...jolts down the sideline for the score

Posted by: cej75024 | August 20, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

al, nice job brushing past the reasons why this CAN'T/WONT happen. Really.

Again, if we're trading for Boldin, bring in Brady too.


Lets all play fantasy football, who else should the Redskins trade for?

I say, they trade for the 1985 version of Lawrence Taylor.

Posted by: Greg | August 20, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Allow me to speak like a non-homer and say that we are not, in fact, better than the Vikings.

We could have a better year, I don't know, but I'd bet on The Vikings having a better year if I had to. That's not a diss on us, I think we're gonna be very good, but Vikings are stacked, and I've always been a fan of APete's game. I don't think last year was a fluke.

Posted by: The Truth in 1st person | August 20, 2008 11:36 AM

Wow, seriously? The Vikings aren't even clear favorites in their own division. They have a negative QB with zero WRs. A great running game won't carry an offense for an entire season anymore.

Last season may not have been a fluke for them, but we beat them when they were healthy, in their house, in a decisive game, and we did it soundly (while we were severely beat up, I might add). Fluke or not, going 8-8 is not reason to anoint them as a favorite of any kind in the NFC.

Posted by: psps23 | August 20, 2008 11:45 AM

Posted by: psps23 | August 20, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Allow me to speak like a non-homer and say that we are not, in fact, better than the Vikings.

We could have a better year, I don't know, but I'd bet on The Vikings having a better year if I had to. That's not a diss on us, I think we're gonna be very good, but Vikings are stacked, and I've always been a fan of APete's game. I don't think last year was a fluke.

Posted by: The Truth in 1st person | August 20, 2008 11:36 AM

The Truth is wrong. We'll kick the Vikes whether or not we get Boldin

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | August 20, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

See Red, I do the opposite. I tend to control the RE on defense, and I do better with the power/swim move. So the strength rating doesn't matter so much for me on the LE. But if you've got it (like Peppers), it makes him unstoppable.

But my LE has to have speed (80+ rating), because most times the LE just runs around the RT for sacks in nickel/dime packages.

That's why I'm mad at the PS3 version; none of these money tid-bits apply.

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 20, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

When Boldin gets here, grabs 109 catches, we go unbeaten in the division and play the Pats with 20 in the Super Bowl, y'all be saying how right I was.

Especially Greg and Alex

No, because this wont happen, and you wont let it go, I'll still be saying how much of an moron you are.

Posted by: Greg | August 20, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

AL Zeke, did you have any comment in response to what Greg said that a trade for Boldin right now would be, if not impossible, highly unlikely due to the salary cap implications?

I understand how much you like the idea of landing Boldin -- good lord have you made that clear -- but how do you think it would work, from a practical standpoint, to execute that trade right now and manage our salary cap?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 20, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Big Bucks, Big Bucks, No Whammies, and STOP!

Posted by: Catch Phrase Central | August 20, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

I am for new uniforms.

Posted by: kmdp4 | August 20, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

jeez X-E your xanax script run out, your prostrate problem keep you up last night?

"I come to the paper to READ the news, not watch it", did you fax that statement to the blog from 1997?

Whats next on your agenda for the day, steal sweets from kids on their last week of summer break, volunteer to kill puppies at the pound, take dumps in other punch bowls?

Posted by: chrIS lArry | August 20, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

no one gives a dang if youre first, second or thong...
Posted by: X-E | August 20, 2008 11:43 AM

Lighten up, Sandy Baby

Posted by: Anonymous | August 20, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Watch it, sucka!

Posted by: Aunt Esther | August 20, 2008 11:51 AM | Report abuse

I dunno I realized a trick that if you spread out you line in Madden and try to match up your DT with their OT on a side with no extra protection you have a great chance at getting a sack with that end every play. So I tend to play the DT and get the open rush wth the E. Usually get 1-2 guys with 4+ sacks a game.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 20, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

X-E is the coolest poster ever.

Also, is anyone else disturbed by the trend of "renegotiations" in the NFL? Here, we'll sign you before you do anything Pro-Bowl caliber to a solid deal fair to both parties for an extended period of time. Okay, but then the guy has a couple break out years and he can just sit and the contract becomes void? That's not fair to the team.

We're gonna eventually see teams NOT signing players for lengthy contracts because of crap people like Rosenhaul (sp) who will whine that they're player isn't getting paid as much as so-and-so after his great year. The point of lengthy contracts is to sign them for a cheaper value than you would in 2 or 3 years when they are playing at a higher level, and now that idea is getting crapped on by these stupid players.

And I have no problem with the amount anybody is getting paid in pro sports, but I have a big problem with breaking contracts to get more money.


/rant

Posted by: The Truth in 1st person | August 20, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

My guess is Boldin is a financial impossibility.

Posted by: Skinz | August 20, 2008 11:43 AM

Impossibility. The Skins front office doesn't know the meaning of the word. They won't quit. Its not over.

Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!
And it ain't over now. 'Cause when the goin' gets tough...
.....
the tough get goin'!

What the f happened to the RI posters I used to know? Where's the spirit? Where's the guts, huh? "Ooh, we're afraid to go with you Zeke, we might get in trouble." Well just kiss my a$$ from now on! Not me! I'm not gonna take this. Wormer, he's a dead man! Marmalard, dead! Niedermeyer...

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | August 20, 2008 11:53 AM | Report abuse

i come to a newspaper site to READ the news, not watch it

Posted by: X-E | August 20, 2008 11:43 AM

So then, I'm confused why you would come to the BLOG section of the "paper". Just like anything else, if it is not your cup of tea....don't click on it. Oh by the way...


THong

Posted by: cej75024 | August 20, 2008 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Wow, seriously? The Vikings aren't even clear favorites in their own division. They have a negative QB with zero WRs. A great running game won't carry an offense for an entire season anymore.

Posted by: psps23 | August 20, 2008 11:45 AM

The Skins did it last year and in '05 and made the playoffs. And we're in a tougher division. I'm just sayin...

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 20, 2008 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Usain Bolt sets world record with a 19.30 200.....seriously, can the dude catch a fubball?

Posted by: Cindy | August 20, 2008 11:25 AM

What difference does it make? If he can't catch, he's a cornerback. And if he can catch, he's a corner, a wide receiver, and a punt and kickoff returner.

Posted by: Mull It | August 20, 2008 11:54 AM | Report abuse

I am for new uniforms.

Posted by: kmdp4 | August 20, 2008 11:49 AM

thoughts on this small change?

I am for it except I don't think any team recently has done it well at all, except I hate to say it, when NY went back to the old school logo. Most the Blue teams all do the same thing and the Cards, and Falcons look like ****.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 20, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

X-E, that was fascinating... you say that you only come here to READ the news, but you're incredibly well versed in not just these new Unrestricted videos, but also the conversation down here in the comments AND the full history of 'guest blogs.' So you have amassed all this disdain, but you apparently keep reading! Ha ha ha!

(Is it Cindy? Is it all about Cindy? That would be an acceptable answer.)

... now I'll go back to thinking I'm cool, soaking up the respect I get here but nowhere else in my life, and secretly wallowing in self-pity. You nailed it, dude. Nailed it.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 20, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Not so fast Truth. Your the biggest moron on here. At least the rest of Rosie O'Canfora's sewing circle accept they are losers on here, and act like friends.

You on the other hand post 2-1 more than they do, sound like your missing 2-5 chromosomes, and than THIN YOUR AN OUTSIDER????

The only thing dumber than being "in" is so desperately wanting to be "in" by posing as a detached "outsider"

Your whole existence is akin to a guest blog....

Posted by: X-E | August 20, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

I'll somewhat agree with the X-E guy in that I would like to at least have the text accompanying it. As many have said, I can't watch videos at work.


Also why haven't we signed the entire Pro Bowl team? Just offer every team a 20** first rounder (or two). We'll never have another draft pick, but are you telling me The Patriots wouldn't trade Brady and Moss for 6 first rounders in the years 2012 through 2018? Liar! And then we can offer 2019 entire draft for LT, 2020 entire draft for Adrian Peterson (talk about a one-two punch).

Posted by: The Truth in 1st person | August 20, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

also, panties.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 20, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Classic Nate

Posted by: jm220 | August 20, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

+++Is there anything worse than making a (what you deem) a funny comment or insightful thought or deeply diagnosed Redskins issue...click submit...then read " Beep Beep"

All that effort, thought wasted by Unrestricted

Posted by: cej75024 | August 20, 2008 11:38 AM++++


TELL me about it. I INVENTED that move.

Posted by: Corkczar | August 20, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

I dunno I realized a trick that if you spread out you line in Madden and try to match up your DT with their OT on a side with no extra protection you have a great chance at getting a sack with that end every play. So I tend to play the DT and get the open rush wth the E. Usually get 1-2 guys with 4+ sacks a game.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 20, 2008 11:52 AM

Dude are you playing on rookie? I've tried that on Pro-Bowl level, doesn't work. But I did get 8 sacks in a game with Peppers one time!

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 20, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Actually Nate, I did comment on that ... and no doubt its an issue. Probably THE issue. The Spaghetti Gang has bent the cap more ways than anyone could imagine, so I don't doubt they could do it again for the right situation. But a lot depends on how much $$$ Boldin wants. And I have no idea on that

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | August 20, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Here, we'll sign you before you do anything Pro-Bowl caliber to a solid deal fair to both parties for an extended period of time. Okay, but then the guy has a couple break out years and he can just sit and the contract becomes void? That's not fair to the team.

Posted by: The Truth in 1st person | August 20, 2008 11:52 AM

For the sake of argument...

What if said player has 2 sub-par years. The team then has the right to cut him and claim "cap casualty". It is crazy, but sadly it appears to go both ways.

Posted by: cej75024 | August 20, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

You guys smell that??? Yep...I think X-E is scorching the Earth.

Posted by: cej75024 | August 20, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

X-E = jjsmallwilly#####

Posted by: Anonymous | August 20, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

And I have no problem with the amount anybody is getting paid in pro sports, but I have a big problem with breaking contracts to get more money.

Posted by: The Truth in 1st person | August 20, 2008 11:52 AM

You're way too Republican, too pro-ownership. You are happy for management to void contracts and fire guys when they don't measure up, but when they overperform they get none of the reward except a few "incentives."

We're Democratic up here. We think if a guy works harda and comes up big, management should pay him at the level of his performance. Yeah, we have no problem at all with renegotiation.

Posted by: d-bag | August 20, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

What the f happened to the RI posters I used to know? Where's the spirit? Where's the guts, huh

Well, the majority of us have the ability to reason, and form logical thought. You, on the other hand, have rammed your own head up your own behind, in an attempt to push your fantasy agenda of landing Boldin, which will not, and cannot happen. Keep beating that dead horse though...

Posted by: Greg | August 20, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

who ate the biscuit, cL or nate?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 20, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

I only play All pro and or Madden. I guess I just get the right combo of players in terms of timing. Usually it works with a typical setup of a Powerful DT+ a DE with a ton of speed and acceleration. (I tend to look for a safety or OLB in the draft and swap em into the DE spot (add an extra 50 lbs on em and its good to go)

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 20, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Actually we gave it an extra basing and gave the honor to Anon....

Posted by: chrIS lArry | August 20, 2008 12:03 PM | Report abuse

"Your the biggest moron on here."--X-E

It's a blog. You don't get marked down for spelling and grammer. But for God's sake, when calling someone a freaking MORON, at least proof the critical sentence.

Posted by: E.B. White | August 20, 2008 12:04 PM | Report abuse

lame how they soak it up while secretly wallowing in self pity.


Posted by: X-E | August 20, 2008 11:43 AM

Hmm seems to me that it's more lame to bash people for simply posting on a message board and pointing out people who in general never really make negative or disparaging remarks.

F X-E

Posted by: Skinz | August 20, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Pop culture reference went right past you, ehhh Greg? Did ya also miss the part about the Germans bombing Pearl Harbor?

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | August 20, 2008 12:06 PM | Report abuse

... now I'll go back to thinking I'm cool, soaking up the respect I get here but nowhere else in my life, and secretly wallowing in self-pity. You nailed it, dude. Nailed it.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 20, 2008 11:56 AM

LOL!

Posted by: Red of the DMV | August 20, 2008 12:06 PM | Report abuse

We now return you to our regular scheduled programming...following that X-E interuption.

Posted by: Generic Announcer Voice | August 20, 2008 12:07 PM | Report abuse

Or was it X-E Eruption?

Sounds like a late nite add for male sex aid....

Posted by: chrIS lArry | August 20, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

X-E male breast enhancement drug. We don't know why you would use it but we came up with it anyway.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 20, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

al, Belushi in Animal House, right.

Doesn't change the fact that the Redskins are not trading for Boldin, and the more you push your agenda on it, the more you look like an a-hole who can't differentiate between fantasy, and reality.

Posted by: Greg | August 20, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

so for the love of God LET IT GO!!!!

Posted by: Greg | August 20, 2008 11:33 AM

Who died and made you The Decider of the blog?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 20, 2008 12:10 PM | Report abuse

X-E male breast enhancement drug. We don't know why you would use it but we came up with it anyway.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 20, 2008 12:09 PM

If it works for Gregg Williams, think what it can do for you.

Posted by: Mull It | August 20, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

I only play All pro and or Madden. I guess I just get the right combo of players in terms of timing. Usually it works with a typical setup of a Powerful DT+ a DE with a ton of speed and acceleration. (I tend to look for a safety or OLB in the draft and swap em into the DE spot (add an extra 50 lbs on em and its good to go)

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 20, 2008 12:02 PM

Yeah, I used to do that too. Moving those speedy LBs with 80+ strength ratings is an easy way to get a dominant DE in a hurry, at least once you change that 6'1", 230 lb frame to a 6'6", 280 lb DE. That's the other thing I hate about the PS3 version: you can't change the player's height/weight or appearance. But then again, the draft generator doesn't churn out goofy ratings (i.e.-MLB that's 5'7", 165 lbs and has a 88 strength rating), so it's a bit of a trade off.

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 20, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

My guess is this thing by Zeke will go the way of Poolman with his 25 reposts trading half our starters.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 20, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

al, Belushi in Animal House, right.

Doesn't change the fact that the Redskins are not trading for Boldin, and the more you push your agenda on it, the more you look like an a-hole who can't differentiate between fantasy, and reality.

Posted by: Greg | August 20, 2008 12:09 PM

Greg, I resent that. I can differentiate between fantasy and reality


Posted by: AL Zeke etc | August 20, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Don't you have to be able to catch a fubball to be on punt/kickoff return teams and even in the secondary? And ... I "can be quirky and downright weird at times"???(Mouthed to computer screen a la Eric Stratton)

Posted by: Cindy | August 20, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Well, the majority of us have the ability to reason, and form logical thought. You, on the other hand, have rammed your own head up your own behind, in an attempt to push your fantasy agenda of landing Boldin, which will not, and cannot happen. Keep beating that dead horse though...

Posted by: Greg | August 20, 2008 12:01 PM

You're a grouchy Gregory! You were a grouch when you went to school here. You were a grouch all the way to high school! You shouldn't mock people. It makes them feel bad...

Grouchy Gregory Grouchy Gregory Grouchy Gregory Grouchy Gregory Grouchy Gregory Grouchy Gregory Grouchy Gregory Grouchy Gregory...

Posted by: Haley | August 20, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

This year's Boldin trade is last years Preist Holmes as third wide out......

People be so geeked up for season, they lose their mind a little more each day...

Posted by: chrIS lArry | August 20, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Here's my way of resolving the Al vs. Greg battle:

Greg: admit the Boldin trade would greatly improve the WR core

Al: admit there's no way this trade goes down

There you have it.

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 20, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

I agree greg, no need to resort to name calling. Zeke has proven himself to be a civil person in the past. As are you and most of us up here. Hold the mud for the AC's

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 20, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Brownie,

Why do you want to end it? What's RI w/o at least one p1ssing match going on?

Posted by: Motivator | August 20, 2008 12:17 PM | Report abuse

You know...a month ago, i thought we were SET at WR. I am very concerned now. Thomas and Kelly may prove me wrong, but a wise man once told me...The only thing worse than a rookie --- is an injured rookie.

So I have that going for me, which is nice.


Seriously, I can't see how Boldin would fit financially. Joe Horn looked old when he was 25.and with all respect to the McMullen family, we are left with hoping Billy McMullen will come through. He couldn't even stick with the WR starved Igles....

dunno mon, dunno

Posted by: cej75024 | August 20, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Am I the only one finding the 11:57 posts of both X-E and Truth funny as hell?

Whats that word again? Oh yeah... irony, I think.

Posted by: Red of the DMV | August 20, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse

No, no, no on Horn.

Posted by: Cindy | August 20, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse

He couldn't even stick with the WR starved Igles....

Posted by: cej75024 | August 20, 2008 12:18 PM

Neither could TO, but he seems to have done pretty well in his next assignment. Igles can't get their own feet out of the way when they're shooting their firearms.

Posted by: Motivator | August 20, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Cindy for GM!!

Posted by: Zebra | August 20, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

To be fair the Eagles have a rule about WR's

If you have talent we don't want ya.

last thing they need is a good WR who comes up short of their potential to prove McNabb is actually not good.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 20, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Danny Buggs...where are you when we need you !!??!!??

Posted by: cej75024 | August 20, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

I also heard the crap on Mike & Mike this morning (idiot Eric whatever his last name is). He dissed our receiving corp as nothing special compared to the other teams in the NFC....pray tell who are the special WRs for the Eagles?????

Posted by: Lisa | August 20, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

You're right, Motivator. Let the battle commence!

By the way:

but a wise man once told me...The only thing worse than a rookie --- is an injured rookie.

Posted by: cej75024 | August 20, 2008 12:18 PM

Was this George Allen? Sounds a lot like George Allen...

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 20, 2008 12:22 PM | Report abuse

+++He couldn't even stick with the WR starved Igles....

Posted by: cej75024 | August 20, 2008 12:18 PM

Neither could TO, but he seems to have done pretty well in his next assignment. Igles can't get their own feet out of the way when they're shooting their firearms.

Posted by: Motivator | August 20, 2008 12:20 PM++++


I would argue that was a totally different situation than Billy Mac.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 20, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

The eagles have White Lightning!

You know who is stacked at WR, the Giants.....Tyree might not even make the team and LBMoss is 100% cut next week....

Posted by: chrIS lArry | August 20, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Haley @ 12:15 is amusing also. If you know the movie, and have been posting here for a little bit you'll understand the humor behind it.

Posted by: Red of the DMV | August 20, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse

+++but a wise man once told me...The only thing worse than a rookie --- is an injured rookie.

Posted by: cej75024 | August 20, 2008 12:18 PM

Was this George Allen? Sounds a lot like George Allen...+++

Nah....it was either Desmond Howard or Michael Westbrook...one of the two.


Posted by: brownwood26 | August 20, 2008 12:22 PM

Posted by: cej75024 | August 20, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Agreed Lisa, we at least have a clear cut #1 receiver who's made a Pro-Bowl. They have crap poured in to jerseys with 80s numbers on them. I'll take our crew over theirs 10 times out of 10.

ESPN has it in for the Skins. Everyone except our own Scott Van Pelt, that is. I can't tell you how upset I was to see Berman as the MC at the HOF inductions...

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 20, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

... we go unbeaten in the division and play the Pats with 20 in the Super Bowl, ...

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | August 20, 2008 11:43 AM

Pats aren't going to the Super Bowl; its going to be the Jags. Pats have that that thing that happens the season after you lose a Super Bowl ... the curse? the clap?

Also to X-E, I agree ... I miss Megskin too.

Posted by: dcsween | August 20, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Red, is Joel Osmet?

Posted by: Zebra | August 20, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Well be warned...I live here in the Belly of the Beast (Dallas) and they have mentioned the possiblity of a Joey Galloway-type trade....2 firsts for Boldin.

Posted by: cej75024 | August 20, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Thing is, none of us know if the Spaghetti Gang is on the phone over Boldin. I don't believe that they are satisfied with the WR situation, especially with the rookies injured.

Boldin first came up for me when the Ocho Cinco thing was going on. I felt we needed someone that better fit the Skins and TJ Houshmanzadeh (sic?) and Boldin were the names that made the most sense. Boldin had the edge because he was younger. And you just know the Bidwell's will mess things up.

So here we are. The Skins have a need. The perfect fit may be available. The $$$ is an obstacle. Skins mgmt is creative with $$$ and have a history with Rosenhaus.

Boldin likely? No. Possible? Yes

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | August 20, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Well, the majority of us have the ability to reason, and form logical thought. HAVING SAID THAT You, on the other hand, have rammed your own head up your own behind, ...

Posted by: Greg | August 20, 2008 12:01 PM

Greg, I added some text in caps ... inserting the code CC-75 wouldn't have made sense.

Posted by: dcsween | August 20, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

This may be a dumb question but can we get that Antwaan Boldin dude from the Cardinals? I know we drafted 2 receivers but they suck at the moment it seems. Is this something that could happen like the JT trade? Boldin seems like a Top 10 receiver in the league and would be a very good compliment to MOSS.

Posted by: Boldin | August 20, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Damn, CL, you just gave me an idea: do you think the Skins make a run at Santana's little brother if he's cut? Can you imagine having those two running streaks on the edges and Cooley and Davis (if he wakes up) catching everything underneath? Insane man, just crazy!

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 20, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

I would argue that was a totally different situation than Billy Mac.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 20, 2008 12:23 PM

And different from Donte Stallworth, too, right? And James Thrash, who the Eagles tried to use as a #1 receiver, right? Yeah, Eagles are great with WRs.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 20, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Ok Al,

We dont have a need. Period. You dont waste 3 draft picks then pick up Bolden or to keep him away from others. You just dont do that. And finally I can say our FO is now on the right side of not doing those things.

Posted by: Zebra | August 20, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Good in theory Browning but Sinorce plain sucks, and gets injured twice as much as Sanatan...

He was a college player, not a pro.

Posted by: chrIS lArry | August 20, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

I mean Brownie....sorry bro!

Posted by: chrIS lArry | August 20, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

To you, Lil' AL Zeke, I say hang onto your dreams and keep believing. Dreams can come true, I just know they can.

To the Skins FO, get on the phone with the Bidwells right now and make sure to drive up the costs of any trade to an NFC East rival. Bluff and posture if you need to ... make sure that Rosenhaus keeps dropping your name and what you're "willing" to do, even if its complete fraud. If someone else is going to get him, make sure it hurts. [Because Boldin on the Cowboys or Eagles will hurt the Skins plenty.]

Posted by: dcsween | August 20, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

This may be a dumb question but can we get that Antwaan Boldin dude from the Cardinals? I know we drafted 2 receivers but they suck at the moment it seems. Is this something that could happen like the JT trade? Boldin seems like a Top 10 receiver in the league and would be a very good compliment to MOSS.

Posted by: Boldin2 | August 20, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

We won;t know the answer to this unless Boldin comes here ... but a lot depends on how the Spaghetti Gang thinks Zorn and Campbell will fare. If they think Zorn is going to be a solid coach and Jason makes the step this year, then Boldin is a difference maker that gets the Skins into Super Bowl discussions. Take some cap risk to get to that trophy.

If they aren't as sure of Zorn and Campbell, they let Boldin go elsewhere. But it'd suck if Dallas got him. Big time.

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | August 20, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

pray tell who are the special WRs for the Eagles?????

Posted by: Lisa | August 20, 2008 12:21 PM

Reggie Brown? Avant?

Posted by: Red of the DMV | August 20, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Cindy, I think I felt a germ in my open letter to the Skins FO re: faking interest in Boldin ... fraudenshame. Um, well, it sounds German anyway, even if its not a germ.

Posted by: dcsween | August 20, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Boldin2, you should read every al zeke post and the reponses from everyone else...

Posted by: Zebra | August 20, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

In the brief bits I saw of Philly's WRs, the only ones I remember were Kevin Curtis and DeSean Jackson. White Lighting looked reliable, but Jackson could be made to hear footsteps and drop.

Posted by: dcsween | August 20, 2008 12:38 PM | Report abuse

pray tell who are the special WRs for the Eagles?????

Posted by: Lisa | August 20, 2008 12:21 PM

Reggie Brown? Avant?

Posted by: Red of the DMV | August 20, 2008 12:35 PM


Oh...Oh... I know... I Know...Hank Baskett!

Posted by: cej75024 | August 20, 2008 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Moss's little bro? No. Twice in our game in the Meadowlands, he caught a pass, went backwards and lost them a first down. TWICE!!! Not the kind of mistake any player should make, let alone twice in one game.

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | August 20, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Anyway, we all know what are biggest need is .... Tight End, right ??

Posted by: Vinny C | August 20, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Red, is Joel Osmet?

Posted by: Zebra | August 20, 2008 12:28 PM

I'm assuming that's the one. I'm a movie nut, remember lines from a bunch of different ones. I definitely know that came from The Sixth Sense.

You're a stuttering Stanley..... Shhhhhhut upppp you fffffffreak!

Posted by: Red of the DMV | August 20, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

To the Skins FO, get on the phone with the Bidwells right now and make sure to drive up the costs of any trade to an NFC East rival. Bluff and posture if you need to ... make sure that Rosenhaus keeps dropping your name and what you're "willing" to do, even if its complete fraud. If someone else is going to get him, make sure it hurts. [Because Boldin on the Cowboys or Eagles will hurt the Skins plenty.]

Posted by: dcsween | August 20, 2008 12:33 PM

Don't you think Rosenhaus already has that go ahead with Snyder? I'm sure he's done that in every negotiation he's ever done.

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 20, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Dallas IS going to add another receiver to step in for Glenn b/c their #2 guy has not shown up on the roster. Jerrah knows how to plash with the big dogs ("if you want to run with the big dogs, you have to learn how to pee in the tall grass"), and Boldin seems within shooting distance for Dallas. Hopefully, the go Horn instead.

Posted by: dcsween | August 20, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Don't you think Rosenhaus already has that go ahead with Snyder? I'm sure he's done that in every negotiation he's ever done.

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 20, 2008 12:40 PM

You're probably right ... I'm guessing Rosenhaus even knows The Owner's PIN number.

Posted by: dcsween | August 20, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

I would argue that was a totally different situation than Billy Mac.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 20, 2008 12:23 PM

And different from Donte Stallworth, too, right? And James Thrash, who the Eagles tried to use as a #1 receiver, right? Yeah, Eagles are great with WRs.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 20, 2008 12:29 PM

Again, let's not over estimate Thrash's value as a WR. I'm not saying he sucks, but, NOBODY is shaking in their cleats when he splits out wide. As far as Stallworth, there is a reason he bounces from team-to-team ( 3 in 5 years in the league? sound about right? )

Posted by: cej75024 | August 20, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

I did forget about Kevin Curtis... was naming Reggie Brown in jest. I have the picture of Sean Taylor de-cleating him in week 2 or 3 last year as my screen saver.

Damn.

Posted by: Red of the DMV | August 20, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Ok Al,

We dont have a need. Period. You dont waste 3 draft picks then pick up Bolden or to keep him away from others. You just dont do that. And finally I can say our FO is now on the right side of not doing those things.

Posted by: Zebra | August 20, 2008 12:31 PM

Zebra, we don't know what we have at WR beyond Moss and ARE. Thrash got injured last year in his only productive game. Both rookies are injured. #2 draft picks at WR have a mixed history (I posted the names yesterday). We have a big ? at WR.

I do agree that you don't sign Boldin just to keep him away from others. Never supported that thinking.

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | August 20, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Will Landry ever become as good a player as Sean Taylor (RIP)?

Posted by: Laundry | August 20, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse

I say let him go to dallas, or iggles. I could give a f--- less. Laron will correct him (hopefully) when he comes across the middle.

Remember, La Ron mean The Ron...

Posted by: Zebra | August 20, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse

And another thing....every preseason the media makes surh a BIG deal about how wonderful McNabb is....and then every off season they talk about the Eagles cutting him.

Posted by: Lisa | August 20, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Say what you will about Rosenhaus. If I'm playing football, he's my agent without question.

Rosenhaus in football.
Falk in basketball (before he semi-retired).
Boras in baseball.

Posted by: Red of the DMV | August 20, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

We dont know what we have anywhere. From year to year and this year; coach to coach.

I dont supposed how good or bad any player will be in a different system.

But based upon number alone, you dont make that move after investing so many draft picks. Otherwise they were really wasted on the rooks when we could have got OL, CB or LB depth.

What we should have done is made a trade before the draft, not now. We missed our opportunity, now we just have to wait and see.

Posted by: Zebra | August 20, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

And another thing....every preseason the media makes surh a BIG deal about how wonderful McNabb is....and then every off season they talk about the Eagles cutting him.

Posted by: Lisa | August 20, 2008 12:45 PM

What was it that Rush Limbaugh said about McNabb? I think it was "overrated."

Posted by: Anonymous | August 20, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

dcsween, I heard this morning that Jerry Jones said he has no interest in Joe Horn.

Posted by: Lisa | August 20, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

to follow that, we made one mistake by not doing it sooner, lets not compound that mistake since we made up for it by drafting 3 pass catchers in the 2nd...

Posted by: Zebra | August 20, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Why would it take boldin on the Cowboys or eagles to hurt the skins, both teams are better than the skins already. Another pre-season of hope for you dilusional fans. Teams who win in the pre-season $uck in the regular season so live it up!!

Posted by: Osaka | August 20, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

from the AZ paper ...

FLAGSTAFF - Anquan Boldin stood outside the building on a serene college campus, praised the Cardinals for signing him to a contract extension and called it "a tribute" to what the team was trying to accomplish.

Unfortunately for the Cardinals, that was a different time (three years ago) and a different place (Prescott).

Now, Boldin is in Flagstaff calling team officials liars and saying his relationship with coach Ken Whisenhunt has soured to the point that he doesn't talk to his boss.

Those are damaging words from a player whom coaches, management and media have propped up as the new icon of the organization.

Team officials pointed at Boldin and told scouts that this is the kind of player they wanted. They pointed at Boldin and told players that this is how you practice; this is how you conduct yourself off the field.

Now the relationship has devolved into accusations and denials.

It is not a new story. Boldin has been unhappy all off-season with what he perceives as the team's unwillingness to get a deal done. That feeling grew stronger when the team re-signed receiver Larry Fitzgerald this spring to a four-year, $40 million deal, paying him on average more than twice as much as Boldin.

Boldin opened camp at Northern Arizona by ripping the team for allegedly not being serious about re-signing him.

This latest episode, team officials believe, was choreographed by agent Drew Rosenhaus. News of the most recent trade request was reported to ESPN's Chris Mortensen shortly before the Monday Night Football broadcast. Profootballtalk.com reported that Whisenhunt and Boldin haven't been talking. NFL.com reached Boldin, who ripped Whisenhunt for being a part of the negotiations.

All of this happened Monday.

Trade me
On Tuesday, Boldin repeated his comments that he thought Whisenhunt had crossed a line by becoming involved in negotiations. Coaching and negotiating should be "completely separated," Boldin said. "I think that's why we have a department that deals with that."

Through all of this, Whisenhunt and Cardinals General Manager Rod Graves have measured their responses.

On Tuesday, Whisenhunt denied that he and Boldin weren't talking, but hinted that he wouldn't be surprised if that was the case going forward.

"You guys have been at practice every day; we've been communicating," Whisenhunt said Tuesday. "At least, if communicating is talking, that's what we've been doing at practice. . . . I don't foresee anything changing, so if it does, that's certainly in his court."

The Cardinals have been adamant in their refusal to consider trading Boldin, at least for now. Rosenhaus first made the trade request last spring, according to team officials. Boldin has consistently denied that and did so again Tuesday. The recent trade request was the first, he said.

The Eagles, Redskins and Cowboys supposedly could use a receiver, but the Cardinals aren't likely to deal with those teams, which happen to be on the Cardinals' 2008 schedule. Never mind explaining how the Cardinals would compensate for Boldin's absence.

The Cardinals consistently note that they signed Boldin to an extension when two years remained on his rookie deal. That extension paid Boldin more than $23 million in new money.

Boldin passed up a chance at entering unrestricted free agency for the financial security. His agent then, as it is now, was Rosenhaus.

Case for 'Q'
The flip side is that Boldin clearly has outperformed his current contract. Club officials have admitted that, which is a reason they are willing to negotiate an extension, they said.

But those negotiations have been a joke to Boldin, who doesn't think the Cardinals are serious about re-signing him, having offered him a deal worth about half of Fitzgerald's, according to a source.

Judging from comments on message boards, most fans don't seem to be feeling sorry for Boldin, who said he's not worried that his image might be taking a beating.

"I'm not worried about my reputation being tarnished for me telling the truth," he said.

It's easy to say the situation is irreparable, but don't underestimate the healing powers of money.

If Boldin were to receive Fitzgerald-level money, we might see quotes such as this one, when Boldin signed the extension three years ago after a year of negotiations:

"A situation like that, you keep your fingers crossed and you take care of what you can take care of. You leave the rest up to whoever else."

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | August 20, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

I think if Boldin goes anywhere it's Chicago or Atlanta. I wouldn't rule out Baltimore either.

Posted by: Red of the DMV | August 20, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

"Team officials pointed at Boldin and told scouts that this is the kind of player they wanted. They pointed at Boldin and told players that this is how you practice; this is how you conduct yourself off the field."

When I (Richard Justice) covered the Redskins, Joe Gibbs would tell young players: ''Watch Art Monk and do everything he does.''

... just saying

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | August 20, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

The Bengals could use a receiver too. Trade CJ.

Posted by: Chris | August 20, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

d-bag thanks for bringing up polictics on this blog just what is needed

Posted by: Anonymous | August 20, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

do you think the Skins make a run at Santana's little brother if he's cut? Can you imagine having those two running streaks on the edges and Cooley and Davis (if he wakes up) catching everything underneath? Insane man, just crazy!

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 20, 2008 12:29 PM


Hey man, I don't care what everyone else says. On Madden anything is possible. Go for it!

Posted by: Red of the DMV | August 20, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

I think if Boldin goes anywhere it's Chicago or Atlanta. I wouldn't rule out Baltimore either.

Posted by: Red of the DMV | August 20, 2008 12:55 PM

How great would that be?? Boldin in on one of those teams catching one-hoppers from Orton, Grossman, T Smith, Boller, or Matt Ryan.

Posted by: cej75024 | August 20, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

This dude Al zeke is murdering, death killing the blog with the Boldin crap. Congrats, guy! You've managed to chase everyone off when your constant pissing and moaning for Anquan Boldin.

Posted by: flat lin________________ | August 20, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

cej75024, yeah those are some terrible QBs, but those teams need WRs to make those QBs you just named better. Unless Boldin has a no trade clause in his contract, he could, I said COULD end up there.

Posted by: Red of the DMV | August 20, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

I have the power :)

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | August 20, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

dcsween's lone moments of athletic glory was as a high school wrassler, esp. the time I turned and fell on a guy and ended up pinning him in 1:31 with a leg move they used to use in Iowa.

Posted by: dcsween in the Truth person | August 20, 2008 10:26 AM

Sween - I wrestled too! As a frshman I was on the Varsity team for every match but didn't earn a letter because I lost every match.

I knew nothing of wrestling and our AD suggested to me that I wrestle to stay in shape for the football season. Coach Lane - Best advice one could give. Dhani Jones was on a team we played against (churchill high school).

I remember we wrestled Damascus who were the best in the state, let alone the county. And I actually made it all three rounds without getting pinned. Everyone was glad for me.

I def helped my football skills.. I became Captin the very net season and all...........

Posted by: 4th | August 20, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

I'm also a tremendous d-bag.

Posted by: Al Zeke etc | August 20, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

QUICK POLL:

If your life depended on it, which QB situation would you want to take snaps for your life??

a. Ravens
b. Bears
c. San Fran
d. Atlanta

Posted by: cej75024 | August 20, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Usain Bolt sets world record with a 19.30 200.....seriously, can the dude catch a fubball?

Posted by: Cindy | August 20, 2008 11:25 AM

What difference does it make? If he can't catch, he's a cornerback. And if he can catch, he's a corner, a wide receiver, and a punt and kickoff returner.

Posted by: Mull It | August 20, 2008 11:54 AM

Just because Bolt is fast doesnt make him quick.How fast can he stop and start is major in determining if he would be a decent receiver.I'll tell you this,every safety in the league would give a left nut for a chance to crush this guy.

Posted by: dawglbs | August 20, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

4th what high school did you go to? My High school played Damascus and Churchill as well.

Richard Montgomery in Rockville MD,

Posted by: kmdp4 | August 20, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

"You're way too Republican, too pro-ownership. You are happy for management to void contracts and fire guys when they don't measure up, but when they overperform they get none of the reward except a few "incentives."

We're Democratic up here. We think if a guy works harda and comes up big, management should pay him at the level of his performance. Yeah, we have no problem at all with renegotiation.

Posted by: d-bag | August 20, 2008 12:01 PM "

Umm, wow. First where did I say it's okay for the opposite to happen? It's not fair either way, please stop putting words in my mouth d-bag. I think it's just as bad for the team to screw a player, but wasn't thinking about it at the time. A contract is a contract is a contract. Nice try and keep the lame red vs. blue crap to yourself, no one cares, they're all the exact same people.

Posted by: The Truth in 1st person | August 20, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, dawglbs, there isn't quite as much hitting in track.

But it is an intriguing idea. I'm sure Al Davis would agree.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 20, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

I'll tell you this,every safety in the league would give a left nut for a chance to crush this guy.

Posted by: dawglbs | August 20, 2008 1:10 PM

You called?

Posted by: nads guy | August 20, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Jogging my memory...track guys turned WR's

Willie Gault
Skeets Nehamiah (sp)


any other world class track starzzzz?

Posted by: cej75024 | August 20, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

LMAO

Posted by: The LMAO Guy | August 20, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Skeets Skeets Skeets ( if you know ... you know)

Posted by: Lil Jon | August 20, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

any other world class track starzzzz?

Posted by: cej75024 | August 20, 2008 1:20 PM

James Jett - Raiders
Ron Brown -Rams
Michael Haynes - Falcons
Bob Hayes - Girls.

Posted by: etrod | August 20, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Just to put a perspective on how 2nd round WRs have fared over the years. Between 2001 and 2007, there have been 30 WRs picked in the second round. 2 have averaged over 1,000 yards per season (the oft mentioned Boldin and Chad Johnson).

Over 500 yards per season, there are 6 more guys (Randle El, Antonio Bryant, Deion Branch, Chris Chambers, Reggie Brown and Greg Jennings).

22 out of 30 WRs drafted in the 2nd round between 2001 and 2007 average under 500 yards per season. Odds of a #2 pick becoming a star? 7%. Odds of becoming a solid #2. 20%

Odds of something less than a #2 WR ... really high

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | August 20, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

I'm Dave Chapelle, trick.

Posted by: Rick James | August 20, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

RE: 1:19 PM...

purloined nads

Posted by: nads guy | August 20, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

any other world class track starzzzz?

Posted by: cej75024 | August 20, 2008 1:20 PM

James Jett - Raiders
Ron Brown -Rams
Michael Haynes - Falcons
Bob Hayes - Girls.

Posted by: etrod | August 20, 2008 1:25 PM

And #28 would've smoked them all

Posted by: Anonymous | August 20, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

cej- You forgot Olympic gold medalist Ron Brown. I think Darrell Green beat him in the NFL Fastest Man competition a few years after the olympics. My (fading) memory also says Green ran him down during a game.

On your "life depends on it" poll, I'll take choice number 'e', cremation.

Posted by: 4-12 | August 20, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Wow, seriously? The Vikings aren't even clear favorites in their own division. They have a negative QB with zero WRs. A great running game won't carry an offense for an entire season anymore.

Posted by: psps23 | August 20, 2008 11:45 AM

The Skins did it last year and in '05 and made the playoffs. And we're in a tougher division. I'm just sayin...

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 20, 2008 11:54 AM

Not really. In 2005 we threw for 3106 yards and 25 TDs (vs. 11 INTs), and in 2007 we threw for 3,463 yards and 18 TDs (vs. 11 INTs). Hardly a lack of a passing game. And we had 2 legitimate pro bowl threats those years (Cooley and Moss).

Meanwhile the Vikings threw for 2745 yards and 12 TDs (vs. 14 INTs). And the Vikings had no viable WR threats whatsoever. Big difference between the two.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 20, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

my anon post above

Posted by: psps23 | August 20, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Also I'd like to note that Reggie Brown in PHI is a freaking baller and a top 10 WR in the league.

that's top ten in WR's from UGA currently in the league :\


still a baller though

Posted by: The Truth in 1st person | August 20, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Of those 30 guys, only 3 ever made a Pro Bowl (Chambers once, Boldin 2x and Ocho Cinco 5x).

fyi-- pro football reference site is really easy for looking up all sorts of NFL stats

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | August 20, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

To the Skins FO, get on the phone with the Bidwells right now and make sure to drive up the costs of any trade to an NFC East rival. Bluff and posture if you need to ... make sure that Rosenhaus keeps dropping your name and what you're "willing" to do, even if its complete fraud. If someone else is going to get him, make sure it hurts. [Because Boldin on the Cowboys or Eagles will hurt the Skins plenty.]

Posted by: dcsween | August 20, 2008 12:33 PM

Don't drink and dial, it's unbecoming.

Posted by: SMACK | August 20, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Totally forgot about James Jett.... I actually thought he wasn't half bad.

But, of course, that means was wasn't half good either

Posted by: cej75024 | August 20, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

"Also, is anyone else disturbed by the trend of "renegotiations" in the NFL? Here, we'll sign you before you do anything Pro-Bowl caliber to a solid deal fair to both parties for an extended period of time. Okay, but then the guy has a couple break out years and he can just sit and the contract becomes void? That's not fair to the team.

We're gonna eventually see teams NOT signing players for lengthy contracts because of crap people like Rosenhaul (sp) who will whine that they're player isn't getting paid as much as so-and-so after his great year. The point of lengthy contracts is to sign them for a cheaper value than you would in 2 or 3 years when they are playing at a higher level, and now that idea is getting crapped on by these stupid players.

And I have no problem with the amount anybody is getting paid in pro sports, but I have a big problem with breaking contracts to get more money.


/rant

Posted by: The Truth in 1st person | August 20, 2008 11:52 AM"

Owners and GMs have the ability to terminate a contract at any time. The moment that owners and GMs are bound to guarantee a full contract is the moment that players should be bound to fulfill their end of the bargain as well. Until then, players should be obligated to themselves to make sure they get paid what they're worth, when they're worth it.

Posted by: psps23 | August 20, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

of those 30 #2 WR picks, 13 never spent even one season as a primary starter for their teams and 17/30 spend 1 or less.

For those who think that Kelly and Thomas are the answer at WR, history says the odds are not that great.

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | August 20, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

x-e=one millionth nate hater. congrats! here's your prize:

in any case...nate, are you sure x-e aint you? didn't cL say you "suffer" from split/bipolar personality/disorder...or something...

also hillarious thing was x-e is taking TT to town and the very next post is from TT agreeing with x-e....lol...fun stuff...

seriously cindy, moi no like this video thingies. at least accompany it with text. we're flying blind up here.

Posted by: dealer | August 20, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Speed guys who becomes NFL star?

I think they both ran track ...

James Lofton and Cliff Branch

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | August 20, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Hey Al,

How many 6th round QB's have one superbowls, I'll bet NE fans are glad you are not there GM.

I have another one how many 6th round running backs have one a SB MVP, Denver is glad you have a day job as well.

Posted by: kmdp4 | August 20, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Speed guys who becomes NFL star?

I think they both ran track ...

James Lofton and Cliff Branch

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | August 20, 2008 1:39 PM

Santana Moss

Posted by: psps23 | August 20, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

LMAO Posted by: The LMAO Guy | August 20, 2008 1:21 PM

LMAO! i'm going to miss this kinda freedom of speach...when registration kicks in...

Posted by: dealer | August 20, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Alexander Wright - Girls

Wright was one of the fastest sprinters in the NFL, winning the NFL's "Fastest Man" competition in 1990 and 1991.[6] In May 1991 he was recorded to have run the 40 yard dash in 4.09 seconds.

Posted by: SMACK | August 20, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

difference between moss, branch, lofton and bolt is 12 inches in height and 48 inches in wingspan

Posted by: dealer | August 20, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

psps, got to agree with you on the contracts. Both players and owners boxed themselves into a corner by trying to leverage the other.

One thing I'd like to see. Players that stay with a team for a large number of years, have their salaries not count fully against the cap.

For example, a 10 year vet with the same team might only count 90% of his pay against the cap. A 15 year guy might only count 50% of his salary against the cap.

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | August 20, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Smack, whats the word on the boy's trading for Boldin. If nothing else could they do it just to shut al up.

Posted by: Greg | August 20, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

ohh not to mention that he's fastER than any human alive...

Posted by: dealer | August 20, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

4th what high school did you go to? My High school played Damascus and Churchill as well.

Richard Montgomery in Rockville MD,

Posted by: kmdp4 | August 20, 2008 1:13 PM

Springbrook in Silver Spring.

School of our P Diddy and Lisa's Shawn Springs.......

Posted by: 4th | August 20, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

kmpd, just pointing out the odds. As the marketing gurus will tell you, Goliath doesn't always beat David, but its the way to bet.

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | August 20, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Smack, whats the word on the boy's trading for Boldin. If nothing else could they do it just to shut al up.

Posted by: Greg | August 20, 2008 1:44 PM

We're just shucking and jiving to drive up the price for the Skinnies.

Posted by: SMACK | August 20, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Hey Al,

How many 6th round QB's have one superbowls, I'll bet NE fans are glad you are not there GM.

I have another one how many 6th round running backs have one a SB MVP, Denver is glad you have a day job as well.

Posted by: kmdp4 | August 20, 2008 1:40 PM

Just playing devil's advocate here.

You just referred to 2 players for a total of 5 super bowls.

Now guess how many 1st round QBs or 1st round RBs have won super bowls...

Or a different question, guess how many QBs, RBs, or WRs that have been acquired (not through the draft) to lead their teams to super bowls?

Just sayin.

Posted by: psps23 | August 20, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

So I guess no one has an opinion about the skins new uniform changes.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 20, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

so after praising JC and showering him with all sorts of compliments the clown (aka peter king) is saying the skins should've selected (other than colty)another QB? huh?! what an a$$! so i guess all that jc hype was all kissing snyderato's a$$. i hate punks like that.

Posted by: dealer | August 20, 2008 1:49 PM | Report abuse

So I guess no one has an opinion about the skins new uniform changes.


Posted by: Alex35332 | August 20, 2008 1:48 PM

Gimme the Gold "Circle R" helmet look from last years Giants game....that can be home uni's

Road can be the Spear helmet look.

Either way...it doesn't matter as long as we keep the Marron and Black alive !

Posted by: cej75024 | August 20, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

I mean the ones they are wearing. The change is small but it is there.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 20, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

6th round QB picks who've won Super Bowls?

53 QBs picked in round 6 since 1980

Super Bowl winners
Tom Brady, Mark Rypien

been there:
Stan Humphries

been close:
Matt Hasselback

other notables:
Marc Bulger
Jeff Blake
Rodney Peete
John Freisz
Babe Laufenberg

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | August 20, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

When will the boss realize .. I have no time for work. I have an obligation to the RI.

Posted by: cej75024 | August 20, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

What new uniform changes are you talking about, Alex? I must have missed that.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 20, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Last year, 20 wide receivers had more than a thousand yards. Eight of them were taken in the first round of the draft, but the rest came from all over the draft and one was undrafted. By round:

1st Round – 8
2nd Round – 2
3rd Round – 4
4th Round – 2
7th Round – 3
Undrafted – 1

And, here are the 20 and their round:

Reggie Wayne -- 1
Randy Moss -- 1
Chad Johnson -- 2
Larry Fitzgerald -- 1
Terrell Owens -- 3
Brandon Marshall -- 4
Braylon Edwards -- 1
Marques Colston -- 7
Roddy White -- 1
Torry Holt -- 1
Wes Welker -- Undrafted
Bobby Engram -- 2
T.J. Houshmandzadeh -- 7
Jerricho Cotchery -- 4
Kevin Curtis -- 3
Derrick Mason -- 3
Donald Driver -- 7
Plaxico Burress -- 1
Joey Galloway -- 1
Steve Smith -- 3

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 20, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

I really, really hope the Cowboys don't get Boldin, that would be bad.

Philly I could care less about, they are irrelevant in every sense of the word.

and Giants, it just wouldn't happen so no need to think about it.


We could draft MoMass next year when he graduates from UGA! Anybody interested!?!

Posted by: The Truth in 1st person | August 20, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else think we should trade for Boldin? I was thinking Portis and Springs would do it. Make it happen!

Posted by: F. Acetious | August 20, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Nate,

Its subtle but most the players have gone to uniforms that have a different strip pattern on the sleeve, rather than the old school 2 inch double stripes they are doing this thin stripes with a red dash thing:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/gallery/2008/08/16/GA2008081602366.html

Only one I see with the original look is Collins.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 20, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

THIS JUST IN: Boldin would be a distraction!!! how long before he's not satisfied with his contract here(if we sign him) yes he is talented (very!! watched him tear up the Ravens secondary last season) i personally love him(no not in that way) but he is high maintinence,he would demand a huge price before the cards would consider making that deal, can we just stand pat?. Any word on Landry's hammy who opens the season in his place if he can't go?

Posted by: dargregmag@aol.com | August 20, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

For those who think that Kelly and Thomas are the answer at WR, history says the odds are not that great.

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | August 20, 2008 1:36 PM

And, by this logic, they would have had a greater chance if we'd picked them in the first round. Gack.

Who could we have chosen in the draft who would have had a greater chance of becoming a #1?

Posted by: Mull It | August 20, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Truth, no, I have NEGATIVE interest in drafting anyone from Georgia.

Posted by: Greg | August 20, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Speed guys who becomes NFL star?

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | August 20, 2008 1:39 PM

Michael Irvin? Oops, my bad ... he was a coke guy ...

Posted by: Anonymous | August 20, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Hello AL Zeke,

Not arguing, but I thought of Brad Johnson.
He was drafted pretty low wasn't he?
Or am I mistaken?

How about Rich Gannen?

Both QB team to SB and both had been let go by our Skins.

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | August 20, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Badum bump

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 20, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Chad Johnson was a #2. That means Thomas and Kelly are going to blow up!

Posted by: S. Pecious | August 20, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: Cindy | August 20, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Seems like that's a good reason to draft WR's #1, talent evaluator. I hope that wasn't meant to say something negative about first round WR's...

Posted by: The Truth in 1st person | August 20, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Beep beep.

Posted by: Mull It | August 20, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

btw, Alex, on that link to the WaPo pix for the new unis, it was extremely UNCOOL not to provide advance warning about the appearance of the guy in the sunglasses in the second picture. That one game me the heebie jeebies.

Posted by: dcsween | August 20, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

+++Boldin likely? No. Possible? Yes

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | August 20, 2008 12:28 PM+++


That would require Vinny Ceratto to admit HE SCREWED UP THE LAST DRAFT!!!

SSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHH!

He has Snyder convinced he's a Personnel GENIUS!!!

Tell me, after your THREE TOP PICKS are receivers, how do you go in to Dan and say we need $40-50 million and a couple picks to get this WR from Arizona cuz the ones I got SUCK?

I don't think they suck, (yet) but that's the message. NO WAY Ceratto does that. Guys a corporate survivor. Corporate survivors assign blame, not accept it.

Next topic.

Posted by: Corkczar | August 20, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse

LMFAO at the fake X-E posting under my original post.

****And ... I "can be quirky and downright weird at times"???(Mouthed to computer screen a la Eric Stratton)
Posted by: Cindy | August 20, 2008 12:13 PM ****

and cindy i mean that in a good way, youre just coooooolllll(and thats no sarcasm)


and its really sad that people have gave up on reading. i mean its so much easier for nate from the PPx to watch a video than try to sound out words i guess...maybe nate can get up with the united way and have santana moss read to him aside some 1st graders...

Posted by: X-E | August 20, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Oh, here we go! The new sexy disgruntled WR wants to be traded and all of a sudden the armchair GM's go a-bloggin abuot how we should get him.

We're fine! It called developing your own talent.

Posted by: sicwidit | August 20, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

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