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Talks Continue with Daniels

Jason Reid checks in with updates:

Not a lot has changed concerning Phillip Daniels since my Sunday post. He still wants to return to the team and his people and the Skins are continuing to talk.

No offer had been made to Pete Kendall as of Monday, according to a league source, but nothing has changed since Jim Zorn stated recently that the team would like to bring him back for depth.

The Redskins remain determined to upgrade at right tackle and are seeking a better option than Jon Jansen. However, they have only about $7 million in salary-cap space at this point with which to complete all the personnel moves they'd still like to do and sign their draft picks .

By Cindy Boren  |  March 10, 2009; 10:11 AM ET
 
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Comments

Pete Kendall is older than my bowling shoes. I say let him walk.

Posted by: Eze167 | March 10, 2009 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Never doubt the ability of the Redskins front office to have enough money to sign the people they think they need.

Posted by: --swb | March 10, 2009 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Just in time....the old post was starting to stink....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | March 10, 2009 10:41 AM | Report abuse

What other RT's are out there in FA?

Obviously I would rather they draft one, but it seems the FO might have other plans.

Posted by: GreenTerror23 | March 10, 2009 10:49 AM | Report abuse

where is this $7m figure coming from? i've heard more like $9 - $11m

Posted by: mopp04 | March 10, 2009 10:49 AM | Report abuse

About time for an update, this is ridiculous...any word on who we might still be pursuing for LB, OL and DL...any ideas on where we are at with Drafting and what the skins are looking for.

Or how about some real insider info...would be nice.

Posted by: mhartz1 | March 10, 2009 10:50 AM | Report abuse

What about Khalif Barnes? Are the Jags gonna let him walk now that they signed Thomas?

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 10, 2009 10:51 AM | Report abuse

I guess Olshansky was too expensive, but I really dont see the interest in Daniels at all. Lets play out the scenario...re-up with Daniels, do nothing for DE through the draft or what is left on FA...come August, Daniels blows something - knee, calf, whatver and we are stuck with nothing at DE but young useless players...FO steps up and trades the world for J. Peppers or Re-Treds J. Taylor and the season looks just like last season. BOO!

Posted by: mhartz1 | March 10, 2009 10:53 AM | Report abuse

"the Skins should look to improve EVERY POSITON and that includes QB.. and if there is a better one sitting on the bench.. find out."

And this is where your entire argument falls flat on its face.

"Find out" if a 6th round pick with bad mechanics and and a lack of trust from the QB guru head coach will be better than the #1 QB in the league in turnover percentage by playing him in regular season games just for the improbable chance that he blossoms into an even better quarterback than anybody else ever saw him becoming? Really? You're resting an entire season on that?

If teams followed this logic, every backup QB in the league would get a start or 2 during the regular season just to "find out" if they fit in the very low percentage group of being a stud hidden behind a lesser QB on the depth chart. Unfortunately for us, no other team does this, unless the current starter is so god-awful that there's no chance he's actually good enough to lead any team to any moment of significance.

Posted by: psps23 | March 10, 2009 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Signing Daniels is a decent ideal,Signing Kendal would be an f*%*ing bad ideal.
Lets get young on the offensive line.

Posted by: jeffhudds | March 10, 2009 10:54 AM | Report abuse

When read forward:

"...Never doubt the ability of the Redskins front office to have enough money to sign the people they think they need..."

When read backwards:

"...Never doubt the ability of the Redskins front office to have enough money to sign the people they shouldn't sign and should avoid..."

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 10, 2009 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Not sure if I would broadcast how old my shoes are, no matter what I used them for.

Posted by: RedDMV | March 10, 2009 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Except getting Peppers would be amazing with Haynesworth...We would have to leverage our next 3 drafts and then he would be 40! Kidding of course. Seriously what about K. Barnes any word, any word if JLAC can out eat J. Reid (ReRun) or if we are seriously trying to bring back R. Wynn???WTF.

Posted by: mhartz1 | March 10, 2009 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Looks like the 'skins are giving Kendall and Daniels similar options that they gave Rock Cartwright last year.

I don't see how they find a better option then Jansen at RT and draft a tackle at #13. Do they wait until after the draft to sign a tackle? Who is it? Willie Colon? Khalif Barnes? Jon Runyan? the guy from Green Bay?

Posted by: bangkokben | March 10, 2009 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Hi Jeff. Your post contained two excess L's. I will leave it up to you to figure out where the overuse occurred. Thanks.

PS - Blog Police.

Posted by: --swb | March 10, 2009 10:58 AM | Report abuse

"Signing Daniels is a decent ideal,Signing Kendal would be an f*%*ing bad ideal.
Lets get young on the offensive line."

Completely agree. New faces are needed along the o-line more so than any other area on the team.

Posted by: GreenTerror23 | March 10, 2009 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Barnes would be nice to have, he is pretty solid, could work with Bugel and get his head straight. I still think we are going to get a LB in the draft, I think Cushing or Rey from USC, unless Orakpo is still available, but with all of the FA moves, I feel he will be gone before 13th.

Posted by: mhartz1 | March 10, 2009 10:59 AM | Report abuse

BEANTOWN STINKS

Posted by: TheTruth11 | March 10, 2009 11:01 AM | Report abuse

If they bring on Kendall it would just be for depth, to hold over for next year. What I dont understand is if Rinehart is so bad, why is he still on this team, not on practice squad or cut??? What about L. Alexander being on the OL full time in a RG or RT capacity, not sure what this would entail, but havent they used him there before??

Posted by: mhartz1 | March 10, 2009 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Orakpo will bust.


I'm The Truth, baby.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | March 10, 2009 11:05 AM | Report abuse

About time for an update, this is ridiculous...any word on who we might still be pursuing for LB, OL and DL...any ideas on where we are at with Drafting and what the skins are looking for.

Or how about some real insider info...would be nice.

Posted by: mhartz1 | March 10, 2009 10:50 AM | Report abuse


don't get your hopes up this is Redskins Cut and Paster

Posted by: jonthefisherman | March 10, 2009 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Barnes is the highest rated tackle left out there.... 6'5 325, will be 27 opening day... might not be a bad option in the neighborhood of 3 years $10M if we can swing it... can always draft a tackle in future drafts.

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 10, 2009 11:13 AM | Report abuse

The Redskins remain determined to upgrade at right tackle and are seeking a better option than Jon Jansen. However, they have only about $7 million in salary-cap space at this point with which to complete all the personnel moves they'd still like to do and sign their draft picks .


By Cindy Boren | March 10, 2009; 10:11 AM ET

How many times do I need to bash this in people's head's???

STEPH-ON

HE-YER

Now, say it 100 times and do not mention (bloggers and posters) we do not have a starting RT again......

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 10, 2009 11:13 AM | Report abuse

It is indeed...I am just annoyed that they call this RI with no new news for 2 or 3 days. NO mention of where we stand with FA and pretty inaccurate numbers on the cap, anyway to verify the cap numbers? Anything worth reading would be nice to post. Bush League

Posted by: mhartz1 | March 10, 2009 11:14 AM | Report abuse

ryp, agreed on Barnes, I just question what kind of deal he turned down with the raiders, and why J-Ville didn't try and resign him.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | March 10, 2009 11:16 AM | Report abuse

"Now that's real news, that's not like some politics slot. What's the name of the Lone Ranger's nephew's horse?"

"Victor, his name is Victor"

Posted by: MrMike4 | March 10, 2009 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Since when is a back-up right tackle considered a starting right tackle?

Only possible answer: when a there is no other starting right tackle.

This is the situation the Redskins find themselves in. It is not a desirable one. We also had a starting left guard in Chad Rinehart on the roster, but the skins did the smart thing and relegated him back to the bench by bringing in someone worthy of filling that position.

Posted by: psps23 | March 10, 2009 11:18 AM | Report abuse

I am not sure why no attempt to bring in Barnes, never an attempt to bring Olshansky - maybe $$$ too high, what about the visit we had with Elton Brown - what happened there, no word, no insider scoop, nothing. Do the Skins have any interest in K. Burnett LB from the cowboys, even if only to pick his brain when here on the Cowboys, etc. What about Crowell LB from the Bills. We readers DEMAND better coverage than Rerun and Doughy JLAC. Hey here is an idea, what about an interview with Cerrato, except he hates the beat writers?????

Posted by: mhartz1 | March 10, 2009 11:18 AM | Report abuse

Thanks for the post...nothing new to report.

J Las gonna get CUT!

Posted by: PrisonBalls00 | March 10, 2009 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Stephon is a viable option to replace Jansen. If his only problem is run blocking, then I'll live with that if he can Keep our QB upright. We always run left anyways.......DOCK IN THE HOUSE NOW BABY!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: BurgwithaU | March 10, 2009 11:20 AM | Report abuse

"I don't see how they find a better option then Jansen at RT and draft a tackle at #13. Do they wait until after the draft to sign a tackle? Who is it? Willie Colon? Khalif Barnes? Jon Runyan? the guy from Green Bay?
Posted by: bangkokben | March 10, 2009 10:56 AM"

If A. Smith falls to #13 then we have a better RT, waiting for his name to be called.

Posted by: matthewvickers | March 10, 2009 11:21 AM | Report abuse

"what about the visit we had with Elton Brown - what happened there..."

Apparently it never happened:

"Cerrato also denied a report that Arizona Cardinals offensive lineman Elton Brown visited the Redskins last week. Cerrato said that as of now, no free agents are scheduled to visit this week."

- David Elfin

Posted by: GreenTerror23 | March 10, 2009 11:22 AM | Report abuse

But if we only run to the left we become predictable, which is what the Skins have been for 3 years now, PREDICTABLE on OH-Fence...I say we feed Sellers more and stick him on the Right side of the line.

Fire JLAC for lack of production!!

Posted by: mhartz1 | March 10, 2009 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Having trouble picking a side but I think you gotta fix the OhhhLine before the D-line. Last years second half collapse was mainly due to the OhhhhhLine breaking down, not the lack of sacks the D-Line was getting.

Posted by: REDneckSKINhead | March 10, 2009 11:24 AM | Report abuse

I have no problem with Daniels and/or Wynn at DE. We got the AL-bominable Bro-man now.

If you draft a Cushing, or Matthews, or Laurinitius to play behind the left end, and even be left end in passing situations. It could work. I would love to get Everette Brown from FSU, but I doubt he'll be there. Chris Wilson took quite a few snaps on passing downs late last season, and 2nd year Rob Jackson needs a chance.

Same with Jansen and Heyer. We beat the Eagles with Heyer on the left and Fabini on the right. I would love to get Andre Smith, too. But we can't upgrade every position we want or need.

CAMPBELL IS AWESOME! ANYONE DISAGREE? BRING IT! Colt Brennan is about as good as Marcus Mason who is not as good as Rock Cartwright

Posted by: pabrian2003 | March 10, 2009 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Did we not get a post from JLAC about E. Brown visiting Redskins Park??? WTF. Hey, whoever, anyway we can set up a Q&A with Vincenzo Cerrato, so we might get real answers or Insider info???

Posted by: mhartz1 | March 10, 2009 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Heyer is not a 16 game starting RT. Hes just not good enough yet. And with Rabach and Thomas, that side is already much weaker than our left.

I feel like the Skins may wait until the draft to see what to do at RT, but by that time, FA's like Barnes will be gone by then.

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 10, 2009 11:27 AM | Report abuse

If we're gonna take Orakpo in the first, we would probably be better off trading back, getting a second and a third, and taking Everette Brown. Pabrian mentioned him and he'll be just as good as Orakpo in the NFL, will cost less initially, and we could pick up another pick.

He's projected outside of the first round I believe.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | March 10, 2009 11:28 AM | Report abuse

"We beat the Eagles with Heyer on the left and Fabini on the right."

We beat them by scoring 10 points with our only touchdown drive starting on our opponents 18 yard line. That's not exactly something you want to bring up if you're in favor of those guys.

Posted by: psps23 | March 10, 2009 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Problem with Daniels and/or Wynn is that they are old, have crappy motors and bumps and bruises, when the season is late, where will they be, sitting in the trainers room on Tuesday and Wednesday and then the team will be out of sync on game day. I think the youngsters need a shot too, but how long are we going to keep youngsters for shots, when they suck? But what other option do we have?? I think if we could add a Barnes or similar, the Oline is ok until next year, without a doubt we need to get younger there, but we did with Dock and hopefully Barnes or similar,but big IFs. LB I think is what we are in desperate need, RIGHT NOW.

Posted by: mhartz1 | March 10, 2009 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Since when is a back-up right tackle considered a starting right tackle?

Only possible answer: when a there is no other starting right tackle.

This is the situation the Redskins find themselves in. It is not a desirable one. We also had a starting left guard in Chad Rinehart on the roster, but the skins did the smart thing and relegated him back to the bench by bringing in someone worthy of filling that position.

Posted by: psps23 | March 10, 2009 11:18 AM

Dude. Where were you in 2007?

We made the playoffs that year and, oh yeah, HEYER STARTED MOST OF THE SEASON AS AN UNDRAFTED ROOKIE FREE AGENT.

Where the SJK have you been? And he BEAT OUT Jansen for the starting spot last year. He only lost it due to injury and JZ not wanting to jinx himself with the chemistry of the line (witch in hindsight back fired against him).

Y'all need to stop hating. Why bring in BArnes who has serious knee problems and is not going to make it the whole year? (Greg - That's the problem with Barnes).

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 10, 2009 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Maybe Cerrato isn't pursuing a RT in FA because he feels confident that he'll be able to snag a top 4 OT in the draft?

Maybe there is optimism for Heyer @ RT?

Has anyone noticed the poll on redskins.com?
Asked where the greatest depth on the skins roster is, 45% say 'Corner Back,' and 24% say 'Defensive Tackle.'

Hall, Rogers, Smoot, Tyron & Westbrook is not as deep as some think.

Speaking of DBs, we currently have only four Safeties on the roster, and they're really young. Doughty anybody?

Posted by: matthewvickers | March 10, 2009 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Everett Brown I think is not going to be available in the later rounds, I thought I saw him listed in the Top 20 with most mock drafts, but I will recheck. Trade I would like to see----Betts paired with someone else for K. Dansby and E. james from the Cardinals. They need RB and want to get rid of E. James, we need LB and would take James, maybe.

Posted by: mhartz1 | March 10, 2009 11:34 AM | Report abuse

What are we gonna do at OLB??

i know OT and DE are the positions we are going to be focusing in during the draft, but because of our upgrade at D line this year with Hanynesworth i say we hold off on the DE until next year,let philip andre and wilson do it next season, we need a starting OLB who can cover elite TE and occasionally blitz the QB on 3rd downs, which we wont be able to find late in the draft, we either our 1st or 3rd needs to be OLB

Posted by: mehtadman87 | March 10, 2009 11:34 AM | Report abuse

truth, regardless of who is there, I firmly believe that given the depth that this draft has in OL types, the best thing for the team to do is trade back.

I'd rather have 3 guys, 2-ol, and 1-dl, 1 ol, 1-dl, and 1-lb.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | March 10, 2009 11:34 AM | Report abuse

"He's projected outside of the first round I believe."

Really? He's in the top 10 in a bunch of mock drafts.

Posted by: GreenTerror23 | March 10, 2009 11:36 AM | Report abuse

""He's projected outside of the first round I believe."

Really? He's in the top 10 in a bunch of mock drafts.

Posted by: GreenTerror23"


I guess he moved up at the combine then. I only keep up with draft info during the season

Posted by: TheTruth11 | March 10, 2009 11:38 AM | Report abuse

4th,

I have to agree with you on Heyer.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 10, 2009 11:38 AM | Report abuse

My vote for drafting is Cushing...if they believe Heyer can do the job at RT, then maybe they should come out and say something, but neither Zorn nor Bugel has said he is the man.

Posted by: mhartz1 | March 10, 2009 11:40 AM | Report abuse

"Dude. Where were you in 2007?"

Right here, watching our offensive line play average and seeing Heyer get demolished by Patrick Kerney in the playoffs. He got absolutely wrecked. He is not a starting caliber tackle unless he significantly improves his run-blocking and also polishes off his pass-protection.

Initially beating out a Jon Jansen that was coming off a shattered ankle isn't the most impressive feat in the world, especially considering Jansen ended up winning the position in the end.

Heyer is a great utility man on the edge. Plug him in here and there for injured players and he'll be satisfactory, which is more than most back-up linemen. He should not be counted on as a starter, however.

And I never said anything about Barnes. I don't want Barnes. The skins should be looking straight at the top of the draft for an upgrade.

Posted by: psps23 | March 10, 2009 11:40 AM | Report abuse

OT or LB for #13

Posted by: TheTruth11 | March 10, 2009 11:42 AM | Report abuse

I like the idea of trading back, in the draft. OLine and OLB have been mentioned numerous times as a position of depth in this years draft.

I think you gotta look hard at Tyson Smith & Matt Sinclair @ Strong Side LB. There is no way that we leave the draft without selecting Oline, LB and CB.

DLINE will be Fine! Especially if we get Daniels back. We have a much stronger Dline this year than we did last year. It's the OLB that we need to nail down.

OLINE will OK! Especially if a top4 OT falls to #13.... and we select him, of course.

Posted by: matthewvickers | March 10, 2009 11:45 AM | Report abuse

OT or LB for #13

Posted by: TheTruth11 | March 10, 2009 11:42 AM |

This is a change from your earlier posts:

"Best available 'University' of Georgia player for #13."

Posted by: talent_evaluator | March 10, 2009 11:46 AM | Report abuse

psp, agreed on Heyer, hopefully, he makes a big jump his 3rd year.

I'd rather they steared clear of any lb in this draft.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | March 10, 2009 11:46 AM | Report abuse

We can't throw money at every freakin problem. Why throw money at RT when you can go impact @ 13? (Barring a trade down).

Heyer has all the potential in the world. You go no where from up. Now is NOT the time to throw him to the side and label him 'not a Starter in the NFL'.

What if they did that to Jacoby? Or how about the Defensive MVP from Pittsburgh?

Heyer is in the same boat.

Sure, Kearny blasted him coming off the edge, but he didn't lose us the game.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 10, 2009 11:47 AM | Report abuse

matthewvickers

'...Hall, Rogers, Smoot, Tyron & Westbrook is not as deep as some think...'

And based on this, do you think the front office will confuse and confound us all, and draft a corner--M Jenkins/A Smith-- with the 13th pick, figuring they'll get a good tackle prospect in the 3rd round?

Speacking of corners, I like Macho Harris, but not at 13, of course.

Hate to say it, but I think it'll happen.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 10, 2009 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Sure, Kearny blasted him coming off the edge, but he didn't lose us the game.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 10, 2009 11:47 AM |

Gibbs unwillignes to help the kid out didn't help either. Theyt didn't even chip Kearney, you would think a HOF coach would have seen what was going on an adapt to it.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 10, 2009 11:49 AM | Report abuse

From offical redskins blog - Fincher resigned.

Posted by: matthewvickers | March 10, 2009 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Never doubt the ability of the Redskins front office to have enough money to sign the people they think they need.

Posted by: --swb | March 10, 2009 10:41 AM | Report abuse

B/C this has created a perennial powerhouse in the past?

Posted by: Devo2 | March 10, 2009 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Moe,

Of course NOT! I am in no way, shape or form advocating the Skins to select a CB with a high draft pick. I'm only trying to say that Matteral Richardson is far better than Tyron and maybe even Westbrook.

Posted by: matthewvickers | March 10, 2009 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Heyer is a backup. He isn't a good run blocker and he struggles with speed rushers. Heyer would be the 6th best tackle in this draft.

Posted by: fj8152001 | March 10, 2009 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Did anyone see the film on NFL network last night for this guy?

http://www.footballsfuture.com/2009/prospects/robert_ayers.html

Robert Ayers DE 6'3 273 Tennessee

He is a BEAST!!! I know it maybe a reach at 13 but I would take this guy in a heartbeat. If we could tadre back a little to get him I think it would be a perfect senario.

Posted by: slimbo-Rice | March 10, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

"What if they did that to Jacoby? Or how about the Defensive MVP from Pittsburgh?

Heyer is in the same boat."

So is every undrafted free agent. You don't rely on these guys, you give them an opportunity. Most of the time they do not end up working out. You bring in someone safer, then if Heyer wins out, so be it. If not (and most of the time it's "not") then you aren't stuck with a subpar player starting at a critical position.

Posted by: psps23 | March 10, 2009 12:01 PM | Report abuse

beantwon

'...given the depth that this draft has in OL types, the best thing for the team to do is trade back...'


Thing about this is that a lot of teams will want to trade back thinking the same thing.

Trading back will be harder than folks think. So you need something of value to make trading work to your advantage.

Which is why Moe asks the same question: would trading a high pick from 2010 to get a 2nd and 3rd rounder this year be a smart thing as it would give the skins four picks in the top rounds?

The team could draft for it's needs in a draft filled with the kind of players it could immediately put to use.

Seems like a no brainer to me.

But I have no brains.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 10, 2009 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Well, yeah, you CAN throw money at every problem, if you have it. Whether or not it works is another story all together.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | March 10, 2009 12:11 PM | Report abuse

A lot of NFL players are undrafted and some of them turn out better than those selected in the draft.

Keep in mind that nothing is certain. M. Sellers, Willie Parker, Antonio Gates, London Fletcher... all undrafted.

Posted by: matthewvickers | March 10, 2009 12:13 PM | Report abuse

"Which is why Moe asks the same question: would trading a high pick from 2010 to get a 2nd and 3rd rounder this year be a smart thing as it would give the skins four picks in the top rounds?"

Next year's 1st round is supposed to better than this year. Do you really want Vinny picking in later rounds anyway? I want every 1st round pick possible as long he's doing the picking. 1st rounders are harder to miss on.

Posted by: GreenTerror23 | March 10, 2009 12:15 PM | Report abuse

moe, someone will fall in love with a player that falls to 13. this team has too many holes to not use that to their advantage....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | March 10, 2009 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Some good insight.

13 WASHINGTON REDSKINS: TYSON JACKSON, DE, L.S.U.

Scouting Report
The Redskins addressed one defensive line need with the signing of Albert Haynesworth but they created another by releasing Jason Taylor. Not that the 34-year-old Taylor wouldn’t have had to be replaced in the near future anyway… However, there is now a big hole opposite Andre Carter and while the common perception is that Tyson Jackson is a five-technique in a 3-4 scheme he could also excel at left defensive end in a 4-3. In fact, the 6-4, 296 pound Jackson would serve as a nice compliment to Carter, who is more of an undersized pass rusher, and could even kick inside to tackle in passing situations. If available Brian Orakpo, Everette Brown and Aaron Maybin would all be possibilities here as well. After cutting ties with Marcus Washington the Redskins also need an outside linebacker so watch out for Brian Cushing, who would be an ideal fit for them on the strongside. The Skins have some issues along their offensive line as well, especially outside where Chris Samuels is almost 32-years-old and right tackle is a mess, so they could target Michael Oher. This may also be a worst-case scenario for Andre Smith if he begins to slide a bit.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 10, 2009 12:16 PM | Report abuse

"Do you really want Vinny picking in later rounds anyway? I want every 1st round pick possible as long he's doing the picking. 1st rounders are harder to miss on."

Cerrato actually hits better on picks in the later rounds. You'd think that it would be easier given the assumed level of talent in the earlier rounds. Check out Cerrato's picks from rounds 1 to 3, then check out 4 to 7.

Posted by: RedDMV | March 10, 2009 12:21 PM | Report abuse

JohnD is becoming more techinical than cL. Though you are right.....

You can but you shouldn't.

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 10, 2009 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Some good insight.

13 WASHINGTON REDSKINS: TYSON JACKSON, DE, L.S.U.

Scouting Report
The Redskins addressed one defensive line need with the signing of Albert Haynesworth but they created another by releasing Jason Taylor. Not that the 34-year-old Taylor wouldn’t have had to be replaced in the near future anyway… However, there is now a big hole opposite Andre Carter and while the common perception is that Tyson Jackson is a five-technique in a 3-4 scheme he could also excel at left defensive end in a 4-3. In fact, the 6-4, 296 pound Jackson would serve as a nice compliment to Carter, who is more of an undersized pass rusher, and could even kick inside to tackle in passing situations. If available Brian Orakpo, Everette Brown and Aaron Maybin would all be possibilities here as well. After cutting ties with Marcus Washington the Redskins also need an outside linebacker so watch out for Brian Cushing, who would be an ideal fit for them on the strongside. The Skins have some issues along their offensive line as well, especially outside where Chris Samuels is almost 32-years-old and right tackle is a mess, so they could target Michael Oher. This may also be a worst-case scenario for Andre Smith if he begins to slide a bit.


Posted by: Flounder21 | March 10, 2009 12:16 PM

Flounder,

They just named seven possibilities with the 13th pick. I wouldn't call this insight. More like a wild-ass guess.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | March 10, 2009 12:23 PM | Report abuse

flound, how much does Maybin weight? He's under 240 right??

I can't see the team taking Jackson, Brown, or Maybin at 13. Makes no sense to me.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | March 10, 2009 12:25 PM | Report abuse

the FO will wait until the draft to address RT and SLB... if smith or oher fall to 13, then we'll try to get a SLB in trade or FA, if any good ones are left... if smith or oher are gone, then we'll trade down and for two second rounders, take a OT and a LB and then try to pick up a barnes or tauscher and a burnett or crowell...

OR, knowing this FO, we're waiting for pace to be released and put him at RT, and we'll trade a couple high picks next year for peppers...

Posted by: poopoobigelow | March 10, 2009 12:25 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: BeantownGreg | March 10, 2009 12:26 PM | Report abuse

4th - it's my new job, for some reason they expect me to be precise when I'm reporting sales revenue - I have no idea why.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | March 10, 2009 12:26 PM | Report abuse

someone will fall in love with a player that falls to 13. this team has too many holes to not use that to their advantage....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | March 10, 2009 12:16 PM

Unfortunately, the "someone" in question is Dan Snyder. Skins aren't trading down, unless it's to 14 or 15. Skins are going to trade next year's number 1 pick for a number two this year. Pats have three number twos, so they're the likely trade partner.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | March 10, 2009 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Why chase Canty anyway when you could draft that dude Tyson jackson from LSU?

"6-4"?
"296"?
"...could even kick inside to tackle in passing situations."


Draft him. Haynesworth won't be in on every snap anyway... slide him to DT and bring in Chris Wilson on thrid and long situations.

Posted by: RedDMV | March 10, 2009 12:27 PM | Report abuse

beeps

More bad news. What happens when you put all your eggs in one basket.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | March 10, 2009 12:28 PM | Report abuse

IFF we would actually draft a RT/LT a SLB, and a DE in the first three rounds would I be in favor of trading our first round pick next year for a 2nd and 3rd rounder this year.

Posted by: dante232 | March 10, 2009 12:32 PM | Report abuse

i would love to trade down and get a low first and a high second....

but one person that impressed me was jarron gilbert...and no not the youtube video...he isnt as refined as tyson jackson, but has a much higher ceiling...then we could take a right tackle with our other pick...and good linebackers can always be found in the 3rd round...

Posted by: jasonma1 | March 10, 2009 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Heyer started the season,then he was injured then they gave his spot to Jansen,now lets be fair you can't do that and expect Heyer to be all warm and fuzzy about that demotion, you are basically calling his ability into question, when he's sitting on the bench what do you think is on his mind? To be fair Buges had a lot on his mind last season(the death of his daughter) so Heyer was basically on his own to figure out what was going on hopefully Heyer comes to mini-camp ready to go and reclaim his starting spot and be treated fairly.

Posted by: dargregmag | March 10, 2009 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Okay everybody, lets look at this from a reality stand point. Andre Smith has been training hard since his combine situation. His pro day workout is going to be outstanding. The top OT's in the draft will be gone as well as Orakpo. Now what do we do. All three of those LB's from USC will be there. They are ready to start now for the skins. We need to bring in a O-lineman now, because if we wait until draft day, that's gonna backfire on us. They say Rob Jackson and Chris Wilson aren't starters. Bull#@$! You can't tell me that Greg Balch can't have either one of these guys ready to start for us. I really believe Rob Jackson is ready to prove himself. Sorry to say this, but Stephon Heyer will beat out Jansen again just like he did last year. We have so much untapped talent right in our lap and would rather spend money by having someone come in. If you look at the top teams in the league we could learn something. Colts, Patriots, Steelers all build through the draft and build up their own players. Now is the time for the skins to show the world that we have the talent right here in our lap. SKINS FOR LIFE.

Posted by: louloudekdek1 | March 10, 2009 1:49 PM | Report abuse


From offical redskins blog - Fincher resigned.

Posted by: matthewvickers | March 10, 2009 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Umm! Matthew that would actually be RE-SIGNED.... Resigned would be like, he's done, retired, quit....

Posted by: EinVB | March 10, 2009 3:14 PM | Report abuse

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