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Taylor Unlikely to Play Sunday

Jason La Canfora reports

Jason Taylor missed practice for a previously scheduled doctor's appointment. He has not practiced for two weeks and a return Sunday against the Philadelphia Eagles is unlikely, Coach Jim Zorn said.

Taylor said the appointment went well, and his recovery from emergency surgery to relieve compartment syndrome in his left leg is on schedule. Avoiding infection is key.
"I'm probably ahead on some things and not where I want to be on other things," Taylor said.

He had hoped to practice today but was told to rest the duration of the day. "Its coming," said Taylor, who added that the stitches will remain in his calf probably a couple more weeks and missing games "is killing me."

Although he did not give a specific timetable for his return -- "it's a matter of how everybody's body reacts" -- Taylor said he could play with the stitches still in.

...

Marcus Washington (hamstring) and Randy Thomas (turf toe) continue to work through their injuries, Zorn said, and were limited again in practice. ... Cornerback Shawn Springs missed practice again with his calf injury, and Zorn said "the light is fading ... But we have to wait and see how the calf responds." ... Stephon Heyer missed practice again with his shoulder injury and is unlikely to play. Malcolm Kelly (ankle) will "be okay to go Sunday, but I don't know if he'll be active," Zorn said. Andre Carter remained excused for family reasons, Zorn said, but could return tomorrow. Zorn said, it was a "positive" thing for Carter to be working through a "very important situation."

By Cindy Boren  |  October 2, 2008; 3:44 PM ET
 
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I hope Clinton mom is there again. She has no problem bustin some philly fans @sses!

Posted by: Stu27 | October 2, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Foist?

Posted by: DikShuttle | October 2, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Sports_Guru, I'll take the bait... is there anything, anything at all, that anyone has done or said that you can cite as evidence that there is any possibility that Chris Horton would be treated the way LaVar and Laveranues were treated?

Posted by: NateinthePDX | October 2, 2008 12:18 PM |

Just based on the fact the Doughty started the following week after Horton was named NFC Defensive Player of the Week. I don't want there to be some back office reason for us not to put our best personell on the field.

Posted by: Sports_Guru | October 2, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

playing with stitches...dude, that's tough.

Posted by: dealer1 | October 2, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Man this place is deader then the cowboys run game.

Posted by: Stu27 | October 2, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Just based on the fact the Doughty started the following week after Horton was named NFC Defensive Player of the Week. I don't want there to be some back office reason for us not to put our best personell on the field.

Posted by: Sports_Guru | October 2, 2008 4:00 PM

Huh? WTF?

Here's a towel. Wipe the egg off your face and then throw it in.

Coach wants to see you. Oh and Bring your playbook.

Posted by: RedDMV | October 2, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: BarackObama | October 2, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Playing with stiches has got to be tough, but i would fear for infection if he did that, if he has stitches then the wound is still got to be open.

Posted by: SAK2 | October 2, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Feels like you're reaching awfully hard with that one, Sports_Guru. Horton will eventually pass Doughty on the depth chart, but as recently as a few weeks ago Doughty was the starter. Guessing that the starter started because of a front office conspiracy to keep the rookie down is quite a leap.

You would have us think that Vinny and Danny guessed that -- after one game -- it would be a good idea to decrease Horton's playing time because at some point in the future there could be a salary negotiation in which his good play could be a factor? That's quiiiiiite a stretch, dude, you have to admit.

I hated what happened with LaVar, and what happened with Coles, but it's been a while, and signs indicate the front office has changed its ways. And your notion of this preemptive manipulation of playing time just seems, well, bonkers. You don't really believe that, do you?

Posted by: NateinthePDX | October 2, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

ying with stiches has got to be tough, but i would fear for infection if he did that, if he has stitches then the wound is still got to be open.

Posted by: SAK2 | October 2, 2008 4:10 PM

...and how deep into the muscle does the wound itself go?

Posted by: Sports_Guru | October 2, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

SAK2, I'm thinking this could be a Curt Schilling bloody sock situation.

Except that was in the playoffs or whatever, and we're talking about week 5 of a long, grueling season.

Get healed up, J-Tay. How's this sound: we'll go on without you for one more week and then we'll be that much better when you get back healthy.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | October 2, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Feels like you're reaching awfully hard with that one, Sports_Guru. Horton will eventually pass Doughty on the depth chart, but as recently as a few weeks ago Doughty was the starter. Guessing that the starter started because of a front office conspiracy to keep the rookie down is quite a leap.

You would have us think that Vinny and Danny guessed that -- after one game -- it would be a good idea to decrease Horton's playing time because at some point in the future there could be a salary negotiation in which his good play could be a factor? That's quiiiiiite a stretch, dude, you have to admit.

I hated what happened with LaVar, and what happened with Coles, but it's been a while, and signs indicate the front office has changed its ways. And your notion of this preemptive manipulation of playing time just seems, well, bonkers. You don't really believe that, do you?

Posted by: NateinthePDX | October 2, 2008 4:15 PM

I don't put anything past The Danny and VC.

I would just hate to see someone with such a knack for being in the right place at the right time end up on the sidelines.

Posted by: Sports_Guru | October 2, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

I hated what happened with LaVar, and what happened with Coles, but it's been a while, and signs indicate the front office has changed its ways. And your notion of this preemptive manipulation of playing time just seems, well, bonkers. You don't really believe that, do you?
Posted by: NateinthePDX | October 2, 2008 4:15 PM
I don't put anything past The Danny and VC.
I would just hate to see someone with such a knack for being in the right place at the right time end up on the sidelines.
Posted by: Sports_Guru | October 2, 2008 4:19 PM |

Isn't this what happened with Thiesmann? You see Jack Can't Cook and Bobby B both knew that Gibbs would play Thiesmann into the ground, and he was playing very poorly in 1985, and had a pretty rich contract (for the times). It is my theory that JKC and Booby Beathard secretly put a bounty on Joey T, and paid Lawrence Taylor ONE MEEEELION DOLLARS to break his leg. In comes Jay Schroeder, who only costs pennies, and was a Bobby Beathard super steal in the draft. Schroeder lit it up, Joey T was gone, and the fron toffice looked great while paying the new starting QB, a paltry sum at best.

Top that Guru.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | October 2, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

++++I would just hate to see someone with such a knack for being in the right place at the right time end up on the sidelines.

Posted by: Sports_Guru | October 2, 2008 4:19 PM++++

Wow. Who should pick who starts? Sports Guru or Greg Blache. Tough call....

Posted by: Corkczar | October 2, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

I never could understand why Grilliams' vaunted scheme didn't have a place for LaVar on passing downs, giving him one job: kill the QB. Marvin Lewis used LaVar in that manner and had absolutely great results.

But Grilliams didn't budge, and apparently LaVar never could learn how to play in his scheme, and the animosity that created spilled over into the contract side, and the brightest star in the DC sports scene was suddenly gone. I hated it, as a fan.

But as far as playing time went, Gregg Williams honestly believed his team was better with LaVar off the field. He really did! Otherwise he would have found a way for LaVar to be in more packages.

I trust this coaching staff to put the best 11 players on the field every down... and that includes their usage of Doughty (when healthy) and Horton so far.

(Good grief, we've gone a long way to drum up anything even remotely controversial this week, haven't we?)

Posted by: NateinthePDX | October 2, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

guru,

your conspiracy theory is even more ridculous considering the FO has got to want to see horton on the field to prove that they drafted well this year, despite the absence (or invisibility) of the second round picks. outrageous, but at least you're not harping on JC.

Posted by: braker19cleartheline | October 2, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Dam...."Year of the Calf" on the injury front...

F Calves!

Posted by: chrislarry | October 2, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

As long as our line is playing like it did last week, JT can take his sweet old time getting back.

Gotta get in McNabbs face though, hes slinging the ball with more velocity then I've ever seen him throw.

Here's to hoping Westbrook is not 100 percent *chug*

Posted by: mattsoundworld | October 2, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

all i eat is veal!

Posted by: braker19cleartheline | October 2, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone else hate the fact that every time Springs gets a little banged up he doesn't play?

Posted by: bwhare1 | October 2, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Williams' D had no place for free roamers. And that's all LaVar (who I loved despite being a Lion...) really had - was insane ability and great instincts. LaVar was nobody's situational player... add to that the ego mashing & Gibbs' mis-interpretation of Today's players...

Posted by: DikShuttle | October 2, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Mattworld, don't kid yourself....JT would be a huge weapon against the athleticism of McNabb and Westbrook....

Posted by: chrislarry | October 2, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

JKC and Booby Beathard secretly put a bounty on Joey T, and paid Lawrence Taylor ONE MEEEELION DOLLARS to break his leg. In comes Jay Schroeder, who only costs pennies, and was a Bobby Beathard super steal in the draft. Schroeder lit it up, Joey T was gone, and the fron toffice looked great while paying the new starting QB, a paltry sum at best.

Top that Guru.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | October 2, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like a great conspiracy theory to me. I'm sure there will be some people quoting RI as a source of this newstory that has just "broken"!

Posted by: frediefritz | October 2, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Whoa, whoa, whoa -- before we start playing the X-Files theme and dream up front-office machinations about Horton, let's keep something straight:

Horton is a rookie who is learning defensive schemes, including when to pick up receivers in zone coverage. (Remember his failing to do that on Whitten's TD in the LAST STINKIN' GAME?) Blache's defense is predicated on strong downfield coverage, and he's careful not to weaken that coverage by giving a rook more responsibilities than he's ready to handle.

Besides, if there are front office machinations afoot, wouldn't they be on the side of OVER-playing members of the 2008 all-Vinny draft class?

That said, I do like the rook a lot, and his role in the defense will grow as he keeps learning.

Oh, and as for the X-Files on Arrington and Coles, let's remember that Arrington is now an in-studio commentator after washing out with the NYG, and though Coles continues to be a talent with the NYJ, he also continues to be a doofus. (See his initial comments about Favre joining the NYJ.) Anyone wanna undo the Moss-for-Coles trade (except the NYJ)?

Don't get me wrong -- I love me some quality rips of The Daniel. But in these cases, the rips are BBBIIIIIIGGGG stretches.

Posted by: tfirey | October 2, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

There are some teams we don't really *need* Jason Taylor for, like the Giants and some other run-first teams. But Philly's offense is almost MADE for Jason Taylor to succeed against. Could've used him last week, too.


I say he takes this week off and next week and makes sure he is 100%

Posted by: TheTruth11 | October 2, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Ladies and Gents,

There should be no conspiracy theory about Horton. If things continue as they have so far, Horton will be starting and playing every down by the end of the season. One, he seems to have great play-making ability, and two, Reed Doughty is not very good. Reed Doughty is a liability in my opinion. I'm glad to see Carlos picking his game up and how he is improved his study habits. It blows my mind that some players come into this league and shun studying film and tendencies, or refuse advice from veteran players. I just can't believe that Carlos, or any player would feel they do not need either. But, that said, I am happy he seems to have matured and opened his mind up. He is playing well, and we need to him to become an All-Pro and be a constant one one side of the field.
Don't even bring up Lavar. What happened with him was terrible, sickening and such a waste of talent. In my humble opinion, it seemed to be a no-brainer to simply have Lavar go after the QB every play/or play some coverage. The guy seemed like the next LT and I will never understand how he was never utilized.
CP is the freekin' man. Top 5 Back in the league and if you disagree you are either a moron, or ignorant.
J-Taylor needs to rest and we will have him around for the pontential playoff push. Plus, I like having our young guns on the line get experience and become battle-tested, and hopefully build some confidence and swagger.
BTW, all hip hop fans need to but the new TI cd.

Posted by: marleyb313 | October 2, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Methinks there is no such thing as machinations with Blache. I don't care who you are.

Posted by: Stumped1 | October 2, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

"Oh, and as for the X-Files on Arrington and Coles, let's remember that Arrington is now an in-studio commentator after washing out with the NYG, "


whoa check yourself real quick please, LaVar most certainly didn't "wash out"


please, LaVar was, is and always will be the man

Posted by: TheTruth11 | October 2, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

sports guru, you are insane. Stop it. Please stop it. Your logic makes my head hurt. The guy is crazy humble. Nothing but team. No contract dispute. Didn't hold out. What's more as was already posted it is in VC's best interest that every one of his picks shine. You, sir, are a maroon.

Bugs Bunny and Friends

Posted by: 44riggosranger44 | October 2, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

I believe Sports_Guru suffers from a mild case of Histrionic Personality Disorder. He craves attention, even that which is negative. This craving manifests itself here in the form of repeated postings he clearly believes to be controversial or dramatic. It's how he gets the attention he needs.

This is also why he chose a name with the word "guru" in it. This shows a need to assert from the beginning that he is smarter than others. This second need is related to the first in that the more drama he stirs up, the more people will argue will him. The more people argue, the more he's able to display his guruness through rebuttal. That his rebuttals are nonsensical to most is unimportant. What is important is that they're not to him.

The third and final symptom of HPD he displays is his latent homosexuality. He may deny his homosexuality, perhaps even vehemently, here on this blog. In his case, any denial should be taken as an affirmation. As should any non-denial.

Posted by: EpsteinsMothersDoctor | October 2, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

I never could understand why Grilliams' vaunted scheme didn't have a place for LaVar on passing downs, giving him one job: kill the QB. Marvin Lewis used LaVar in that manner and had absolutely great results.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | October 2, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

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I think Gregg Williams is going to have to go in the books as slightly over rated. You always hear about his complex schemes and blitzing style and all that, but sometimes we got burnt by that philosophy.

To speak more to what you said about scheme, you just get the feeling that Blache is very aware of his personell capability, whereas Williams always thought that if you blitz the nipples off someone you didnt have to have the best athletes.

That worked fine except when Arrington wasnt on a blitz and Williams forced him to play a soft defense to cover his backside.

Blache's philosophy doesnt allow for the weakness that overload blitzes can create. Instead, hes got his guys well supported and in position to capitalize on unforced errors. I think the results show, as we are +6 in turnovers already this season.

Maybe you put some of this on Gibbs, too, because he ran Smoot, Pierce, Arrington, Coles, and Lloyd outta town. Arrington had a career ending injury, but all of them have demonstrated they can still play at a high level.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | October 2, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

I don't want there to be some back office reason for us not to put our best personell on the field.

Posted by: Sports_Guru | October 2, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

LOL... now that's funny, considering even the player himself has stated that he miffed on coverages, and still doesn't understand the defenses enough.

Horton will be a great player, and mostly likely will push doughty out of the starting line-up before the end of the year... but he is not the best player yet!

The fact that he gets on the field as much as he does is testament to watch the coaches and FO thinks he can be one day. But it too far off for anyone to care about what he next payday will cost them.. and since when do we really care about paying producing players??

Lavar wasn't producing when the issues with his contract went down. Even Coles, who was producing, and really fallen off. That's why there are some minor contract issues with Springs, because he produces when healthy... but it soften not.

But Horton is too young and too cheap to even think anyone is worrying about that right now.

Posted by: fbchick | October 2, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

"As Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where– where do they go? It’s Alaska. It's just right over the border." --Sarah Palin

I personally believe that, uh, who the heck am I kidding? This lady is more off the wall than me!

Posted by: MsTeenSouthCarolina | October 2, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

whoa check yourself real quick please, LaVar most certainly didn't "wash out"


please, LaVar was, is and always will be the man

Posted by: TheTruth11 | October 2, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

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+1 A blown Achilles tendon will do in the best of us.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | October 2, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Thank you, fbchick. Thank you. So, you're smart. You like football. Are you hot too? That's probably asking too much...

Posted by: 44riggosranger44 | October 2, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Coach wants to see you. Oh and Bring your playbook.

Posted by: RedDMV | October 2, 2008 4:07 PM

"Gold Jerry..."

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | October 2, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Sorry Truth, but the numbers tell a different story. Here are the Games Played and Tackles numbers for Arrington from the start of Gibbs 2.0 (including Arrington's one year with the NYG):

YEAR---GP---Tackles
2004---4----15
2005---13---47
2006---6----16

What we see, I think, is a player in decline, not a vendetta from the front office (unless you think The Danny convinced the NYG to also blackball Arrington after signing him -- and I'd LOVE to hear that conspiracy theory).

Arrington simply couldn't play at a high level by the end of his career (as happens to a lot of players as time and injuries take their toll), and the coaching staff adjusted his PT accordingly and let him go when his contributions on the field no longer justified his salary & cap hit.

That's no knock on Arrington -- that's just professional sports.

Posted by: tfirey | October 2, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

I know we need to put the Cowgirls game behind us but I ran across this recap of the game. My favorite part is at 7:20 when Tony Homo says "These guys are done, they are tired, we can do anything we want now". How did that work out for you, Homo?

http://www.nfl.com/partner?partnerType=game-of-the-week&season=2008&seasonType=REG&week=4

Posted by: mornindew | October 2, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Malcolm Kelly (ankle) will "be okay to go Sunday, but I don't know if he'll be active," Zorn said.

If this kid is ready to go, we need to see what he is all about. Get Kelly in the game and see what the 51st overall can do.

Posted by: skinsforlife | October 2, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

...I'm hot...

oh.. wait - that's just my blood pressure... nevermind...

[:-\

Posted by: DikShuttle | October 2, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

I think Gregg Williams is going to have to go in the books as slightly over rated. You always hear about his complex schemes and blitzing style and all that, but sometimes we got burnt by that philosophy.

Posted by: fbchick | October 2, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Grilliams is far from overrated. He had one bad year, compared to 3 great ones. Say what you want about Todd Collins and Al Saunders, but it was Gregg Williams' defense that carried this team down the stretch last year. He was nothing short of spectacular covering for the loss of Sean Taylor, Carlos Rogers, Rocky Macintosh, and Marcus Washington in critical, must-win games.

That's not to say that Blache can't be as good. So far he's been brilliant as well (aside from the first half against NYG). Hopefully Blache can keep it up, but also remember, this is Grilliams' scheme that Blache is running.

I have zero ill-will and negative feelings towards Grilliams. He and Gibbs set the stage for this team's success this year. They built the car, just seems like Zorn/Blache may be the better drivers.

Posted by: psps23 | October 2, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Actually, I believe Horton is now officially the starter or am I out bicycling?

(this guy is amazing)
http://rubberburner.dodonetwork.net/


Posted by: Notorious_LMG | October 2, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

...I'm hot...

oh.. wait - that's just my blood pressure... nevermind...

[:-\

Posted by: DikShuttle | October 2, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Your name also has 'dik' in it. So, uh, no thanks.

Posted by: 44riggosranger44 | October 2, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Final thought for the day:

Jason Taylor is going to be a HUGE boost down the stretch for this team. Kinda like how Strahan was for the Giants last year, after he shook off the rust from not coming to training camp. This team will function fine in the meantime, then I'd say around week 9 or 10, Taylor gets that "pep" feeling back in his first step and just becomes an animal in the pass-rush. He'll make transform the Redskins from a feared team to an absolutely despised team. And I'm going to love it.

Posted by: psps23 | October 2, 2008 5:17 PM | Report abuse

'hence the "nevermind", ranger... hehe.

That NFL Films production is sweeeeet! Thx, Dew!

Posted by: DikShuttle | October 2, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Ms TeenSC,

Thanks, best laugh of the day.

Posted by: Markin21132 | October 2, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

mccain just conceded michigan...and he only has $84 million left to spend on this campaign. can't wait till the big debate tonite...

Posted by: dealer1 | October 2, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Horton is thinking, play me.
Show me the money.
Good for him.

Posted by: Stumped1 | October 2, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

EpsteinsMothersDoctor

Someone explain this reference to me.
I really want to know.

Posted by: Stumped1 | October 2, 2008 5:52 PM | Report abuse

So Czabe, Riggins, and Pollin were discussing the upcoming game on 980 this afternoon and Czabe said that Philly is going to make Jason Campbell look the same way Ben R. did (he will be on the ground a LOT) when the Steelers played the Eagles. Czabe said we are due for a bad game and the Eagles are due for a good game. Riggins and Pollin seemed to agree with Czabe. He then went on to say that IF we do manage to beat the Eagles, it will be lights out....we will be heading to the Playoffs after only playing 5 games.

Posted by: Lisa_R | October 2, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

IF we do win. We'll be the headline.

(maybe not such a good thing, but F it, take the risk)

Posted by: Stumped1 | October 2, 2008 5:59 PM | Report abuse

EpsteinsMothersDoctor

Someone explain this reference to me.
I really want to know.

Posted by: Stumped1 | October 2, 2008 5:52 PM | Report abuse

From Welcome Back, Kotter

Posted by: 44riggosranger44 | October 2, 2008 6:06 PM | Report abuse

oH!
thanks

Posted by: Stumped1 | October 2, 2008 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Any Riggo fans?

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Posted by: kmcguiney | October 3, 2008 1:33 AM | Report abuse

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