Network News

X My Profile
View More Activity
On Twitter: RedskinsInsider and PostSports  |  Facebook  |  E-mail alerts: Redskins and Sports  |  RSS

Holiday Week in TCCLS

It's the official abbreviated holiday edition of the weekly TCCLs! Hope you all are having a wonderful holiday season; all the best to you and yours.

79 TCCLs: Lorenzo Alexander.
Dude is the unsung hero of the Skins and all heart. Watching him try to chase down Brian Westbrook tearing down the left sideline was never going to end well, though, was it?

34 TCCLs: "Fear Of Music."
It's a book of the 261 best albums since the dawn of the punk/dicso era. My wife got it for me and it rocks. I'm definitely biased because I agree with the author, Gary Mulholland, on about 85 percent of the stuff in here and own most of it already. He gives short shrift to metal, and seems to let his politcs take over at times, but if you are looking to fill in the cracks of your musical library with overlooked moments of genius, this would be a great place to start.

2 TCCLs: Footie Pajamas (dubbed sleepy sacks in my house, primarily by me).
Nothing like seeing a couple of crazy kids scampering around the tree in these wooly full-body stockings to get you thinking about holidays seasons long gone..

-39 TCCLs. Carlos Rogers/Jason Campbell.
The Redskins may want to handle this situation with care. I am starting to doubt that both will be back, and the impact of the labor situation upon their individual contracts - they will likely be only eligible for restricted, and not unrestricted, free agency after the 2009 season, should not be forgotten. If the Redskins don't want to enter into long-term deals with these two this offseason - and I'm not blaming them for perhaps not wanting to - there is potential for both situations to get ugly. I also wouldn't blame either of these kids for wanting to be someplace where they were considered worthy of solid, long-term deals. Stay tuned.

By Jason La Canfora  |  December 26, 2008; 1:33 PM ET
 
Save & Share:  Send E-mail   Facebook   Twitter   Digg   Yahoo Buzz   Del.icio.us   StumbleUpon   Technorati   Google Buzz   Previous: Hoping to Return, Golston Ready to Play
Next: Fletcher, Golston, Jansen Questionable

Comments

What does TCCLS stand for?

Posted by: jiacinto | December 26, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

JLaC has finally come to reality with JC17 and CR22.

He was harping on the skins to lock them up because their prices were only to get higher.

But, sadly, like myself recommending to buy Six Flags @ $0.95/Share, it was bad advice........

Posted by: DaReal4th | December 26, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

It seems like CRog went from a solid #1/very good #2 corner to an iffy #3 corner overnight.


wtf, LET THE DUDE BEAST

Posted by: TheTruth11 | December 26, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

If one of them has to go, then I want it to be Rogers. I think that CR is easier to replace than JC. But, I would really like to see what we could get in a trade before this ever happens. If we can not get enough, then keep them and go from there. But, I assume that we would at least get some interest.

Posted by: NCMatt1 | December 26, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

150 TCCLs:
Punk Rock was originally derived from Reggae. Yes, JLC, Reggae. Started in England with "bar bands" like the "Specials" also know as the "Two Tones". Who can forget that Punk classic "Ghost Town"?


"34 TCCLs: 'Fear Of Music.'
It's a book of the 261 best albums since the dawn of the punk/dicso era"

Posted by: periculum | December 26, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

I think they need to keep them both. Definitely, positively. Else you will have to go to the draft for a replacement. Clearly CB would be easier to fill than QB. Getting someone like McNabb? Problematic. The chemistry isn't there.

If you go for CB then you miss out on picking that OT/OG they desperately need ... yesterday.

Thank you Snidely Owl / Vinnster for all that wonderfully huge dead cap space. There is no way Joe Gibbs could ever do something that silly. We know its all on you two.


"If one of them has to go, then I want it to be Rogers. I think that CR is easier to replace than JC."

Posted by: periculum | December 26, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Here's an idea:

Keep Springs
Trade Carlos for picks

Posted by: DaReal4th | December 26, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Reggae -> Punk Rock -> Noveau Surfer toons.

Posted by: periculum | December 26, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Makes sense to me. Then you can draft a CB high and still get OL help.


"Keep Springs
Trade Carlos for picks"

Posted by: periculum | December 26, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

I agree that I would like to keep both, but if one had to go, I would say Rogers. We could get by another year or so with Hall, Springs and Smoot, then address CB later.

Posted by: NCMatt1 | December 26, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Trade both to the Lions for all their 2009 and 2010 picks.

Posted by: Keyskonnection | December 26, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

This draft needs focus on offensive linemen, then LB / DE. If Rogers go they will have to draft someone like Mickens first. Be nice to get a running back to replace Portis but for that you would need 3 first rounders. 1. OT 2. LB/DE 3. RB. Then OG/C or best athlete available.

The defense is sound. Messing with Carlos could affect that. Stay the course. I think they can get rid of some of the high priced vets to fit them both. They are both young after all.

Another novel from JK Rowling:
Snidely Owl and the Dead Cap Blues.

Posted by: periculum | December 26, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Trade both to the Lions for all their 2009 and 2010 picks.

Posted by: Keyskonnection

This situation would only work out if Danny and Vinnie ran the Lions. It is amazing to me that I would even think that, considering the Lions are about to become the worst team in the history of the NFL!

Posted by: NCMatt1 | December 26, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

-39 TCCLs. Carlos Rogers/Jason Campbell.
The Redskins may want to handle this situation with care. I am starting to doubt that both will be back...

By Jason La Canfora | December 26, 2008; 1:33 PM ET

Is your doubt based on any reporting or just on your dislike for the Redskins' management?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | December 26, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

This draft needs focus on offensive linemen, then LB / DE. If Rogers go they will have to draft someone like Mickens first. Be nice to get a running back to replace Portis but for that you would need 3 first rounders. 1. OT 2. LB/DE 3. RB. Then OG/C or best athlete available.

The defense is sound. Messing with Carlos could affect that. Stay the course. I think they can get rid of some of the high priced vets to fit them both. They are both young after all.

Another novel from JK Rowling:
Snidely Owl and the Dead Cap Blues.


Posted by: periculum

Too bad our 2nd round pick is wearing #55 and posted 3 sacks this year.

I say:
1) OT
3) DT
4) OLB
6) OT/OG

Or, trade for more picks, but don't trade down out of our 1st round pick! We need to get someone there who can immediately step in and play from day one.

Posted by: NCMatt1 | December 26, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

They need to keep both. I dont get why everyone has turned on carlos rogers? Yeah, the guy has hands made of concrete, but he has been a lock down corner all year, and thats coming off a serious knee injury. Did we all forget earlier this season when springs was injured and it was just los and smoot? Carlos shut down braylon edwards, the zona receivers, t.o., calvin johnson and the list goes on. Also, he has turned into a good character guy, or at least more than deangelo hall. Also, gotta keep JC. I dont think we should give him a massive deal, but enough to keep him around for the next 4 or 5 years. People that complain about him should just think about how futile the Skins qb's have been in the last 15 years. I would rather go 8-8 every year and at least have the appearance of moving forward than being the 5-11 embarassment that we have been for the last 15 years.

Posted by: gtstang9t3 | December 26, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Since 'Area 51' is gone, perhaps we can start up a new 'Area 39' where JC throws a pass in the vicinity of Carlos, and Carlos fails to catch it.

Posted by: daggar | December 26, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

There is no good way to say what positions to take in the draft until we see who we sign in free agency. If they sign Jordan Gross, then obviously you go DL unless there is a stud guard there that must be taken. Same way if we go after Peppers or Haynesworth that you would then focus the draft on the other side of the ball.

If either JC or Rogers are going to make a stink about not getting a new deal it will definitely be Rogers. That is not JC's style plus we may be giving money to DHall which may get to Rogers. I'd much rather keep Rogers over Springs though. Way younger and actually suits up for more than half the games.

Posted by: Posse81_83_84 | December 26, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

I would agree wqith you that CR did a good job early in the year against some good receivers, but I would contest you saying that he locked them down. The numbers at the end of the game look good, but those guys dropped a lot of balls and a lot of bad passes were thrown to them. To me, when you say that guys are being locked down, that would constitute that the DB is in their hip pocket for the entire play. Rogers was not doing that. The tape does not lie.

Posted by: NCMatt1 | December 26, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Posse81_83_84

I agree that we can't say 100% on what we need, but I am almost sure that the Panthers will re-sign Gross. I live down in NC and listen to a ton of sports talk radio and everyone is saying that the Panthers are going to make Gross a priority in the off-season.
Now, Peppers is a different story. A good amount of people don't like him because they say that he takes plays/games off. So, I don't know how aggressive they are going to be trying to re-sign him. We will see.

Posted by: NCMatt1 | December 26, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

NCMatt, considering I am not infront of game film its going to be hard to argue with you about this. But as you said the numbers dont lie. Why were the passes off? Was los knocking them off the timing/ routes? Were they dropping passes because they heard footprints? (remember the josh cribbs hit?) Im just saying the guy is a stud, and if we keep hall over him it will haunt us. Hall is a flashy guy who makes a ton of mistakes and a few big plays, the kind of guy the morons in our front office love. But how has that worked out (brandon lloyd)? Keep rogers, hes not gonna put up a highlight reel but he will shut people down and give the opportunity for others to make plays

Posted by: gtstang9t3 | December 26, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

gtstang9t3,

I hear ya man. I like Rogers, but I just think that people got a little bit carried away with him early in the year and were not looking at the whole picture.

I agree that signing Rogers is MUCH safer than DHall. DHall is like dealing with an infant, sometimes he will follow the rules and sometimes he will get out of line. It is no secret that his nickname is MeAngelo. He has to be surrounded by veteran teammates that he respects like Fletcher. If you don't have those guys to regulate him, he could turn into a problem fast than he can run 40 yrds. In my opinion, he is a ticking timebomb. But, I hope that I am wrong.

Posted by: NCMatt1 | December 26, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Im with you, MeAngelo needs veteran leadership to strive, but overall I would say we have a pretty young defense and the vets will be gone within the next few years. Griffin, Daniels, Taylor, Fletcher, Springs, Washington, ect will not be here in 3 or so years, so what happens after that? MeAngelo will have a meltdown and we will be back to 2006. Im cool with us signing him but not in favor of carlos and certainly not for a huge deal.

Posted by: gtstang9t3 | December 26, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

As long as CR and Jason are GETTING BETTER every year, DON'T LET 'EM GO!

Posted by: charley42 | December 26, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

I appreciate JLC for running this blog, but this post is baffling at best, absurd at worst. Lorenzo Alexander is our "unsung hero"? I like him but not sure about that statement. Far more puzzling is his final paragraph. What is he referring to and why the negative score for the Auburn boys? He acts like the two had a big blow out - unless I'm clueless, I haven't heard about anything. If he's simply referring to them tailing off - well that's more a result of the overall team's struggles. I say we absolutely keep both. If I had to choose, JC would for sure be the one to stay but Carlos is still a good corner and only 27. If he demands Clements/Samuel type money, let him go but he should get a solid long term deal.

Keep Springs - who will be 35 at the start of next yr - and trade 22?? I don't like that.

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | December 26, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

I move that TCCLs be banned and replaced with a term that does not involve Tom Cruise. Even if it's in mockery of that guy, I don't like him being associated with our squad (even if he does have dealings with Danny Boy).

How about BHF's (Borat "HIGH FIVES!!")?

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | December 26, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

I think any talk about getting rid of anybody is crazy until they get the offensive and defensive lines fixed.

The CB is probably pretty good if he's able to hold his opponents to few catches and fewer big plays even while the D-line is getting ZERO pressure on the opposing QB. If you think he's not that good, maybe he's not, but how can you really tell when there's no pass rush?

Also, how good or bad is our own QB? Hard to tell when the protection & O-line, due to age/injury/lack of depth/blocking schemes/etc, is not able to reliably keep him upright long enough for him to find somebody open downfield. He may be too slow in finding the open man, or the receivers may not be getting open very well, or the play calls may not be very good. But if the offensive line is not able to win its battles, it's hard to tell where the problem really is because the whole offense is distorted.

Both lines need to be fixed before the rest of the personnel can really be evaluated.

Posted by: chuggo | December 27, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Keep Rogers. Hell, keep Campbell, too. I don't think there will be lots of people trying to beat the door down to get either, so they can be had reasonably. If they think otherwise, they might find themselves "Rocked" like Cartright last FA period. The only way you get rid of either is if there's a major QB upgrade available through FA or multiple draft picks in the offing.

Does Campbell really think he deserves a big bonus and 4-5 yrs after this season and last? I know "it takes time" and "there've been new systems every year" blah blah blah--these are legitimate excuses, too--but you have to show something more than not throwing interceptions and executing the game plan. We saw a few things in the first five games. Since then it's been a smidge better than what we saw last year. Point is, and it pains me to say it, but Ceratto's right to basically let Campbell sweat this one out. This is the NFL. And you can't get a big contract just because circumstances didn't let you grow into the kind of performer you know you're capable of being.

Rogers, however, has merited at least an opening conversation. He has flat out played and should get a respectable but not break the bank kind of deal.

Posted by: DCUnited2 | December 28, 2008 2:01 AM | Report abuse

gtstang9t3 -- good post. You need three or four quality CBs in this league, and Rogers is one of them. I'd rather have my CB's weakness be dropping INTs than getting schooled on routes.

Is it realistic to thing Springs might be back?

And seriously, what has JC done to deserve this turncoating?

Posted by: WorstSeat | December 28, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

The comments to this entry are closed.

 
 
RSS Feed
Subscribe to The Post

© 2010 The Washington Post Company