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TCCLs

Not a lot of time here with a webchat coming up at noon, but here's what I got:

10.4 TCCLs - Offensive Line. The names keep a changing but so far so good. Not sure how well Fabini will work as a long-term starter and wonder if DeMulling will push for that spot coming out of the bye.

9.6 TCCLs - The Kids on D. Sure, Rocky and LaRon screw up sometimes because they are a little too over zealous - LaRon miss-fired big time on a few plays letting Westbrook pick up big yards - but they have a sense of theatre to them as well and seem to come up big in the clutch. Their speed, aggro attitudes and playmaking skills are big additions.

8.7 TCCLs - Shuishy and Frosty. Way to get it done, boys.

7.5 TCCLs - The D Line. Very, very early still in this season, but they are certainly holding up better than a year ago. A lot of transition going on at this spot as well, and lile the O Line, they are getting through it. Squuezing the max number of plays out of Griffin is essential, but keeping his healthy is even more imperative. That's a tough line to straddle.

0.9 TCCLs - Clock Management. Come on Joe, get it together. That fire drill at the end of the half wasn't good enough, and it's hardly an isolated incident. They got bailed out this time but you can't count on too many second chances in this league.

-10 TCCLs - The Media. I think a lot of schlubs are over-reacting big time to what Donovan McNabb said and taking the entire episode way too personally.

-162 TCCLs - The Sox. You guys are killing me. Ridiculous. Theo's job should be on the line. Management failed miserably to address roster concerns and their collection of big-money busts are the primary reasons why this team didn't score a few more runs and run away with the best record in the AL weeks ago.

By Jason La Canfora  |  September 21, 2007; 11:47 AM ET
 
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Comments

Funny how Rush Limbaugh said the same thing about McNabb two years ago and was basically forced to quit ESPN , yet McNabb can say it and get away with it why? because he is black. Total double standard.

Posted by: Jeff | September 21, 2007 12:00 PM | Report abuse

I'm a bit new to the blog. What are TCCLs?

Posted by: BDWESQTM | September 21, 2007 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Agreed to an extent Jeff

Posted by: oc Skins | September 21, 2007 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Regardless of what Herm Edwards would say ("HE'S a Kicker"), I think thats kind of low for the kickers. I thought they've performed great and deserve a higher rating than the Dline, which still needs to smack around a quarterback.

How about 10 TCCL's for the 'teams in general.

12 for Sellers...He's a bad, bad man.

Posted by: WaPoLiveFan16 | September 21, 2007 12:06 PM | Report abuse

LB Marcus Washington told me he would like the rest of the country to continue to ignore the Redskins saying he hopes people weren't paying attention to their Monday Night win over Philly.. "I want us to be like crocodiles, we sit back, wait and bask and then we eat when we eat."

Posted by: via bram | September 21, 2007 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Rush actually said that McNabb was getting the benefit-of-the-doubt because he is a black QB -- because, according to Rush, the media is clamoring for a successful black QB.

Posted by: Get Facts Straight | September 21, 2007 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2007 12:08 PM | Report abuse

DorkCanforna is back with his negative comments about the 2-0 skins. Dude you are hardly around and when you are you shout sH!t.

Posted by: Forrest | September 21, 2007 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Agree that Media overreacting to DMac story, and now we get all the weird "reverse rasism" rants....so tiresome......

TCCL definition can be found...

Here:

http://redskinsinsiders.wetpaint.com/page/RI+Lingo

Posted by: chris laRry | September 21, 2007 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Your too tough on Coach Joe for the clock management for last week. J Campbell said that the confusion came because the audio in his headset went out. Yes, there still needs to be a backup plan to execute but it wasn't the total incompetence that it appeared to be.

Posted by: Dennis | September 21, 2007 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Yo, BDWESQTM, it stands for Tom Cruise Couch Leaps, cuz tom cruise is a big dbag.

Posted by: Tweedr01 | September 21, 2007 12:09 PM | Report abuse

do we have a link for the webchat?

Posted by: Tweedr01 | September 21, 2007 12:10 PM | Report abuse

New "She Says, Z Says" on cnnsi.com. I am massively in love with Brooklyn Decker. Even if she DID pick the Giants! She deserves a spanking for that one. Naughty, naughty zoot.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 21, 2007 12:11 PM | Report abuse

OF COURSE she picks NY, her name is BROOKLYN for SJK sakes!

Posted by: JonTPK126 | September 21, 2007 12:17 PM | Report abuse

How Now Brown Cow.

Where is everyone?

Posted by: P Diddy | September 21, 2007 12:17 PM | Report abuse

"...and then a second but much smaller (to wit, Shavian) earful about Jevon Kearse..."

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 11:41 AM


Shavian earful... Bryant Shaw... tiny ears... Anyone? Anyone? Too clever by half? Yeah, that's what I thought.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 12:19 PM | Report abuse

its interesting how mcnabbs comments surface now and not a month ago when mcnabb had the interview. I hate how the media likes to try and start fires to make more intersting stories....

Posted by: peter | September 21, 2007 12:19 PM | Report abuse

what does "jumping the shark" mean?

Posted by: ? | September 21, 2007 12:20 PM | Report abuse

If a tree falls on the Forrest and he cries like a p***y, does anyone hear it?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2007 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Diddy, if you enjoy "She Says, DBag Says", then you'll love "The Alternative with Jay Mohr" on FOX Sports. WAY funnier and his wife Nikki Cox makes a regular appearance (usually scantily clad) to make their picks for the week. I encourage all to check it out.

Posted by: JonTPK126 | September 21, 2007 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: P Diddy | September 21, 2007 12:24 PM | Report abuse

How about Wilbon dropping the N bomb in his column? Kind of takes my breath away to see that word on WashPo, but I absolutely understand why he used it. And I do agree with McNabb that the criticism of him has gone above and beyond what could be expected simply for poor play at QB.

I caught the whole HBO piece while I was in NYC and as usual McNabb made tons of sense. Not sure if it's available on the net or something but I would recommend watching the whole thing to provide some context. Not that James Brown was fishing for controversy, but he did press McNabb on the history of being criticized from many different angles.

McNabb looked really bad against us on Monday, the same kind of really bad we've seen a lot from Brett Favre during his long decline. Shaking your head because the guy used to be so very good. But he (McNabb) is only 30, and I hope he gets well and has a nice long career after leaving Philly and our division.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Diddy a little more help for those in wiki challenged work places, please

Posted by: gethanr13 | September 21, 2007 12:26 PM | Report abuse

The thing is that Brooklyn and I have history. I've been lusting after her for more than a year now, she's been ignoring me for even longer. It's the kind of healthy relationship my mom told me to seek out.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 21, 2007 12:26 PM | Report abuse

From wiki:

"The term Jumping the shark alludes to a scene in the TV series, Happy Days, when the popular character, Arthur "Fonzie" Fonzarelli, on water skis, literally jumps over a shark. The scene was so preposterous that many believed it to be an ill-advised attempt at reviving the declining ratings of the flagging show.

Since then, it has become a metaphor that has been used by U.S. TV critics and fans to denote the point at which the characters or plot of a TV series veer into a ridiculous, out-of-the-ordinary storyline. Typically, such a show is deemed to have passed its peak. Once a show has "jumped the shark," fans sense a noticeable decline in quality or feel the show has undergone too many changes to retain its original charm."

My favorite JTS moment is either Cousin Oliver on "The Brady Bunch", the replacement of Ponch and Jon on "CHiPs", or the signing of Norv Turner to be the head coach of the 'Skins.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 21, 2007 12:29 PM | Report abuse

The thing is that Brooklyn and I have history. I've been lusting after her for more than a year now, she's been ignoring me for even longer. It's the kind of healthy relationship my mom told me to seek out.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 21, 2007 12:26 PM

she has been ignoring you, too?? That two timer!

Posted by: gethanr13 | September 21, 2007 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Rush was wrong. By the time McNabb came around, there were enough successful black QBs in the league to nullify his point. Not only that, over his career Brad Johnson had a few things McNabb has only had once (or never had at all): 1) effective receivers and tight ends, 2) a firm commitment to the running game, and 3) consistent RB production from decent runners. Alstott and Pittman combined were better than everything the Eagles trotted out until Brian Westbrook found his inner muse two season ago. And let's not even discuss that loaded Vikings offense Brad played with earlier in his career.

I am not an Eagles fan, but I certainly didn't root for McNabb because he is black. However, he is charismatic and athletic -- which makes him popular for similar reasons to, say, Michael Vick. Except McNabb is about 50 times the QB Vick was. Steve Young was charismatic, athletic and popular...and a better QB. Then again, Young also had a much better supporting cast: Jerry Rice, Tom Rathman, John Taylor, Ricky Watters, Bill Walsh and others.

By the way, Rush and McNabb didn't say the same thing, Jeff. But someone else beat me to that point. Sounds to me like you saw what your preconceived notions led you to see.

Posted by: jcabana | September 21, 2007 12:30 PM | Report abuse

I can't recall on Redskins.com
was it Sellers who was upset that the Skins aren't getting any respect?

Who cares about respect? I don't.
Just win baby... and the respect will come.
Meanwhile this team can sneak up on people.

For example on ESPN Salisbury and Hoage were salivating over the Packers and Texans being 2-0.

It's ok folks, maybe we can get some wins now, because that schedule sure does heat up in a few games! Yikes!!

HTTR!

Posted by: Redskin Ray | September 21, 2007 12:30 PM | Report abuse

The turmoil engulfing Red Sox Nation is ohh so sweet.

Hail To The Redskins!

Posted by: mjwies11, D.C. | September 21, 2007 12:31 PM | Report abuse

MV Dame... you want to go back and start tallying how many posts people have made and we can measure our self worth by that # on the wiki?

even better, cindy could go back with the IP addys and see who posts the most as someone else. I'll confess I've done it a few times.

Posted by: Dorf | September 21, 2007 12:31 PM | Report abuse

You keep your lusting, sinful eyes off that girl. She's MY sweet little potato pie.

Posted by: Dr Z | September 21, 2007 12:32 PM | Report abuse

In my typically nitpicky way, I took the liberty of amending the definition of TCCLs on the wiki. That bit about "jumping the shark" just didn't sound right to me.

A teevee show "jumps the shark" when it airs a moment which is just absurdly untrue to its very nature, usually in a desperate attempt to regain lost ratings, and everything from that point until the inevitable cancellation is tainted.

Tom Cruise Couch Leaps are not unrelated to jumping and to teevee. Tom Cruise demonstrated his delight in something by jumping up and down on a couch, on Oprah's teevee show. But that's where the connection ends.

TCCLs are used to measure praise doled out here on the blog. More TCCLs indicate higher praise. It has no similarity to the notion of faded glory, being past your prime, or whatever is embodied by the phrase "jumping the shark."

Blah blah blog. You all have permission to hate me for this post.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 12:32 PM | Report abuse

If a tree falls on the Forrest and he cries like a p***y, does anyone hear it?

Posted by: | September 21, 2007 12:20 PM

Classic Anon! ITA

Posted by: Forrest | September 21, 2007 12:33 PM | Report abuse

My biggest JTS moment......when Law & Order started the spin-off "Juvenlie Court for crimes of Vandalism over $5000" or for CSI when CSI Fargo started.

Posted by: Jack | September 21, 2007 12:34 PM | Report abuse

I agree with Nate... I think the TCCLs have lost their original meaning.

Posted by: Dorf | September 21, 2007 12:36 PM | Report abuse

I am so sick of "the black excuse" Cmon folks haven't we been passed all that. That whole thing died once Doug Williams raised the Lombardi trophy. McNabb is just using that as an excuse cause...well... he sucks. If anyone watched the MNF game he was walking around smiling, overflowing with confidence because he believed that the game would already be his for the taking and that he could shine in the MNF spotlight. Then reality set in and the outcome was obvious ... your skills are no more and thats why the Iggles drafted Kolb. So what does he do, uses the black excuse....typical. Listen McKnobb, the black excuse has been worn down as much as the"Wuuuuuuz up" term. The spotlight isn't on you anymore and your confidence isn't what it was, so ditch the black excuse and practice more.

Posted by: Jeff | September 21, 2007 12:36 PM | Report abuse

MV Dame... you want to go back and start tallying how many posts people have made and we can measure our self worth by that # on the wiki?

The simple answer, Dorf: no.

I'm two days from retirement like Danny Glover in Lethal Weapon 14 and you want to put me on an exploding toilet?

Posted by: MV Dame | September 21, 2007 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Who are these a$$clowns on the chat trashing JC.......makes you really wonder about people...

Posted by: chRIS Larry | September 21, 2007 12:38 PM | Report abuse

McNabb is coming off knee surgery. It usually takes an additional season to recover. I have a feeling he'll be back in form next year. It's a worst to first League, you know.

As for the African American QB thing...I haven't seen the full HBO interview, so I'll refrain from commenting. The media love to take specific incendiary lines and blow them out of proportion.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 21, 2007 12:39 PM | Report abuse

I told you all there was a BEEP BEEP!, I believe a select few owe me an apology.

Posted by: C-lo | September 21, 2007 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Also, Dorf, as discussed last week, I am a fan of the "classic" TCCL scale, which as I recall simply measured from 0 to 5.

This year has introduced a newfangled scale like something out of Doc Brown's lab which apparently can go from absolute zero (a zillion negative TCCLs) to infinity and beyond.

But I am change-averse, as a rule. 0 TCCLs for "change for change's sake."

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Jeff, just curious, did you watch the entire HBO segment with McNabb's interview?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 12:42 PM | Report abuse

9 TCCLs to the Yankees, for making up 13 games on the Red Sox in the ranking.

I will give them 10 next week when they take first place

Posted by: gethanr13 | September 21, 2007 12:43 PM | Report abuse

two in the pink, one in the stink

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2007 12:43 PM | Report abuse

can somebody post the link to the chat?

Posted by: gethanr13 | September 21, 2007 12:44 PM | Report abuse

"I am so sick of "the black excuse" Cmon folks haven't we been passed all that. That whole thing died once Doug Williams raised the Lombardi trophy. McNabb is just using that as an excuse cause...well... he sucks."

Jeff, you again miss the point completely. McNabb made those comments months ago in an interview. He wasn't trying to justify anything. He wasn't even talking about himself, nor was he speaking bitterly. It's not an excuse. It's a fact.

Read Wilbon's column for an intelligent take: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/20/AR2007092002688.html
Save you "black excuse" rants for Al Sharpton. Just because you don't bother to dig past your superficial perspective doesn't mean your view of reality is accurate.

Or you can keep the blinders on if you want...whatever.

Posted by: jcabana | September 21, 2007 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Hey Nate. Yes I did and it seemed to me like this was a guy who obviusoly put too much onus on being black and how the world works as opposed to focusing on the fact that his skills have diminished and hios team has lost their spark. If McNabb and Iggles fail this year; expect to see him in Minnesota.

Posted by: Jeff | September 21, 2007 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone remember the Simpsons episode where Bart is watching a "McBain" movie where McBain and his partner are at a bar and his partner Mendoza is sharing about how he's about to retire and go yachting with his wife and some scumbag who McBain busted comes back for revenge and kills his partner?

MENDOZA!!!!!

MV Dame, you reminded me of that... thanks!

Posted by: Dorf | September 21, 2007 12:49 PM | Report abuse

McNabb's comment?

Look, why do we have to make race the focus?
Why did McNabb throw race into the question? Because he wanted to direct the attention off of himself that's why.

Fact: whomever is the QB in Philly, NY, Chicago
will have much worse scrutiny than the QB in Tampa, GB, KC, etc.

But hey, weren't we all brutally tough and honest about #8's poor performance here in DC last year?
Oh, he was white, and that doesn't count?

Double standard.
Excuse.

Posted by: Redskin Ray | September 21, 2007 12:50 PM | Report abuse

I dunno, Jeff, I saw it and didn't have at all the reaction I was led to believe I would have from all the hype. And I certainly didn't come away with the feeling you did, that (if I follow you) McNabb was trying to say that criticism of his play is not completely valid because people hold him to a higher/different standard than they hold white QBs.

Anyway, I repeat that I like the dude, and I want him to get healthy, get the heck out of our division, and wrap up his career in a happier place than Phillthy. I'm still guessing Chicago, his hometown, but you're right that MINN is a good guess too.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Jeff;

The interview was apparently prior to last weeks game and from the sound of it prior to the regular season starting. So its not an excuse.

All McNabb is saying is that he feels judged differently. Can you truly sit there and say HIS feelings are invalid? Have you lived one day as him?

As a whole I think we will never get past race in this country if we keep pointing it out. But then there are situations like the Jena 6. There is a lot more 'hidden' racism in this country versus the out and out in your face racism.

As a white person I feel in a privileged position b/c people put their guard down around me being white and say shti they shouldn't. Just from that I know there is still a lot or racist bigots in this country.

If you dont know about the Jena 6, enlighten yourself and do some reading.

Posted by: Zebra | September 21, 2007 12:53 PM | Report abuse

and yes, I know the interview was prior to the start of the season... that is my point.

QB's in some cities will have it much harder regardless of their race!
Ask Eli Manning
Hey, ask Rex Grossman! They are all over him and were last year as well when they were winning!

Posted by: Redskin Ray | September 21, 2007 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and philly is know for their race issues.

Posted by: Zebra | September 21, 2007 12:56 PM | Report abuse

I'm getting more and more paranoid about this game.

This is a classic trap game.

Division opponent.
Able to put up points.
Team "finally getting respect"
Opponent getting trashed by hometown media
Favorable matchups.


I don't like it. I don't like it at all.

Posted by: Skinz | September 21, 2007 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Hey Nate, I hate McKnobb too but you have to admit he walked around with a swagger before the game because he thought the game was already won....ya by the Skins. its all an excuse on his part.

Posted by: Jeff | September 21, 2007 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Dame,

You're killin' with the lethal weapon ref. Did I mention I have a deep bone bruise in my ribs? No fair making me literally LMGO.

Posted by: Larry Bud | September 21, 2007 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Again, Redskin Ray, if you watch the interview I think JB was pushing steering McNabb to analyze the nature of the criticism he has received throughout his career from many sources. And in the course of that analysis McNabb made some points about how he feels he is perceived, which have now been conflated into some racist/reverse-racist screed which just was not there. This is just my opinion.

Anyway, I feel like this conversation has jumped the shark. 0 TCCLs for us on this one.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Jeff -> Redskins Ray
Redskin Ray -> Jeff

Posted by: Zebra | September 21, 2007 12:57 PM | Report abuse

I'm officially nervous, last week nobody picked us to win, now every single expert on ESPN picks us to win this week, I like it better when Tom Jackson and Ditka are the only people who think we can win.

Posted by: Jack | September 21, 2007 12:57 PM | Report abuse

I wouldn't jump the shark. He might not appreciate it.

Posted by: Larry Bud | September 21, 2007 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Plus, he's always chewing on that towel, which is a big turn-off.

Posted by: Larry Bud | September 21, 2007 12:59 PM | Report abuse

okay, fun time is over... back to work

real work, not Ultimatum work

Skinz, I feel the same way... we're getting too proud... let's hope the fellers actually putting helmets on this weekend arent'.

Posted by: Dorf | September 21, 2007 12:59 PM | Report abuse

I don't see the making excuses thing. Isn't it at least possible that he can discuss what he thinks is unfair criticism AND take responsibility for his play? Because I think McNabb is a smart guy and capable of both.

Ugh. Why are we still talking about this? Are we that hard up? Should we go back to random quote generation? :)

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Lets all have a cry for Zebra, boo friggin hoo. This isn't about a racially hick town in Louisana Zebra. Its about a has been, stuck up quaterback who made a bone head comment. Oh ya and Zebra, I would like to be in his shoes making all that money, you knw what I would do......leave Philly. Go to another chat room Zebra that talks about racial equality, we are talking football.

Posted by: Jeff | September 21, 2007 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Wow people sound stupid up here today....

Posted by: chRIS Larry | September 21, 2007 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Haha Emitt didn't pick us. I can just hear him now on TV.

"Redskins has good players but Manning have all the tools at his disposal to pull off a win."


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/notebook?page=sundaycountdown07

Posted by: Skinz | September 21, 2007 1:03 PM | Report abuse

skins need to get up on the jizants early and take their will out of the game. cuz NY can score... we don't want to let them hang around into the 4th quarter & definately don't want to have to play catch up with 'em. They have no confidence at all, let's keep it that way and crush them early.

Posted by: sniksder | September 21, 2007 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Redskin Ray:

Race was the focus because he gave an honest answer to the question he was asked. To McNabb's credit, he didn't shirk from the question. He tackled it head-on. To paraphrase Wilbon: nobody called Mark Brunell, Rex Grossman or anybody else a n___er, a cracker or anything else racial because of their poor play. But McNabb gets that kind of abuse from Philly fans -- just like Doug Williams did when he played for the Bucs.

That's right: even after all this time, nothing has changed for some ignorant folks. Comparing that to critiques of Rex Grossman's performance is ignorant at best and downright slimy at worst.

It's mind-boggling how people can't seem to have an intelligent, reasonable conversation about race. A black person says there might be some bias, and it seems that a whole lot of non-black people react by immediately throwing up their hands and shouting, "OHMIGOD WHYAREWETALKINGABOUTTHISAGAIN GETOVERIT!!!11one!"

Like I said, save your venom for the real rabble-rousers like Sharpton. Jason is right: too big a deal is being made of this.

Posted by: jcabana | September 21, 2007 1:03 PM | Report abuse

We hit 900 comments on the last thread... remember when hitting a total like that was a big deal up here?

Anyway, we're rocking and rolling our way towards 100k... let's keep going, get as many comments as possible before we break for the weekend...

I promise, I promise, there will be NO MORE MILESTONES after we hit 100k (sometime tomorrow??)...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Anyway, about the game: I could definitely see the 'Skins blowing this one. Every time a team loses, they become more desperate - and every time a team wins, they become less desperate. Factor in the division rivalry and media all picking the Skins, and you have a recipe for an upset.

Posted by: jcabana | September 21, 2007 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Nothing gives white people hard ons like oppurtunity to scream "reverse rascism".....like SWEET we get in on some of this!!!!

Posted by: Chris laRry | September 21, 2007 1:07 PM | Report abuse

I hear ya Chris LaRry

Posted by: Jeff | September 21, 2007 1:09 PM | Report abuse

When I first heard what McNabb said, I took offense. But after watching the interview, I don't see what the big deal is.

What he said is NOTHING like what Rush Limpd**k said. Rush alluded to him getting special treatment because the liberal media wanted a black QB to do well. McNabb said that black QB's get extra criticism because they are black.

I've never been a black QB so I don't know if it's true or not but McNabb has been classy throught his career so he's earned the benefit of the doubt.

Posted by: etrod | September 21, 2007 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Nate,

Don't let Cyn Cyty see that post. Next thing you know we'll be on Boren our way to 1 meeelyon. (with my pinky turned backwards and pressed to my the corner of my mouth)

We'll call it the Allan Parson's Project.

Posted by: Larry Bud | September 21, 2007 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Chris Larry: it is disturbing how true that is and how right you are...except I would amend it to "some white people."

Posted by: jcabana | September 21, 2007 1:10 PM | Report abuse

You can always email me at - lacanforaj@washpost.com - or find me on the blog, Redskins Insider. YEAH RIGHT!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2007 1:13 PM | Report abuse

J-La balks at posting a DEVO song title "Jocko Homo" which shuffled by on his ipod during the chat. It's not a gay context, it's just typically weird DEVO Esperanto style language manipulation. Just for the record.

And just for the record, it IS a great record, "Q: Are We Not Men? A: We Are DEVO." I do love DEVO.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Nothing gives white people hard ons like oppurtunity to scream "reverse rascism".....like SWEET we get in on some of this!!!!
Posted by: Chris laRry | September 21, 2007 01:07 PM

There is no such thing. Racism is racism. Period.

Posted by: nah | September 21, 2007 1:14 PM | Report abuse

McNabb is like Mike Vick was in Atlanta last year without the mobility. He has the arm but the targets aren't getting open. When he was mobile, those scrambles would have allowed his mediocre receivers to break off their route and get open. Right now, all he has is B Westbrook out of the backfield. Those other guys get no separation off the line on most downs. Vick would get unwarranted criticism because he would take off running. Couldn't blame the guy because other than Crumpler, nobody there hung on to the ball much.

Posted by: Gregskins | September 21, 2007 1:14 PM | Report abuse

etrod, I was just about to ask you how long you've been a black quarterback!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 1:14 PM | Report abuse

I hate to even dip my toe in this.

I don't think anything that McNabb said had even the slightest bit of reverse racism. I just think what he said was idiotic and wrong.

There is a very simple way for Mcnabb or any other QB to end the critism. Stop cashing the paychecks and retire.

There are plenty of things that I don't care for at work and I have the right to stop coming at any time.

Posted by: Skinz | September 21, 2007 1:15 PM | Report abuse

JLC, I feel your pain with the Bo Sox. I am a Mets fan and watching them crumble this past week is tough... I can only hope they turn this around, get healthy quick and make a big post season run through October. This really sucks... And to see the Yankees going strong now - just bites even more.

But I still got my Skinz playing tough...

Hail!

Posted by: E in VB | September 21, 2007 1:15 PM | Report abuse

i think etrod is a retrod

Posted by: Jeff | September 21, 2007 1:15 PM | Report abuse

plaxico hasn't practiced all week... is he playing? if he does L2 should just put him out of his misery..

Posted by: sniksder | September 21, 2007 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Boo hyper-sensitive white people!

Hooray Beer!

Posted by: Red StripeGuy | September 21, 2007 1:16 PM | Report abuse

E in VB - Hi I'm bigfish, longtime Mets fans and I feel you pain brutha.

Posted by: bigfish | September 21, 2007 1:21 PM | Report abuse

At least I know how to spell "yeah".

Posted by: etrod | September 21, 2007 1:22 PM | Report abuse

J-Cab

yeah should have said "some"....I am white by the way so I have racial self hater rights...

Posted by: CHRIS Larry | September 21, 2007 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Jasno, answered my ridiculous question on the chat. Don't know why that made my day.

I posted an interesting take on this all Donovan McNabb shabingus days ago from Jason Whitlock of Fox.com. His points are that QB's are now perceived as management by the other players and that he has criticized by his own black players as result of not supporting TO desire for more money.

Posted by: bangkokben | September 21, 2007 1:24 PM | Report abuse

McNabb ain't nothing but a nappy headed ho.

Posted by: Imus | September 21, 2007 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Calmer than you guys are..

Posted by: Walter | September 21, 2007 1:26 PM | Report abuse

I asked Jasno if he planned on giving J3 a spare set of keys to the blog but he didn't answer.

Posted by: bigfish | September 21, 2007 1:26 PM | Report abuse

First post on this chat... so who brought up race d-bag Jeff

"Funny how Rush Limbaugh said the same thing about McNabb two years ago and was basically forced to quit ESPN , yet McNabb can say it and get away with it why? because he is black. Total double standard.

Posted by: Jeff | September 21, 2007 12:00 PM "

Posted by: Zebra | September 21, 2007 1:27 PM | Report abuse

previous post should say has been not has criticized.

Staggering possibility this week: If the Skins win and the Eagles and Dolphins lose, our team will be 3-0 and all of their opponents will be 0-3.

Posted by: bangkokben | September 21, 2007 1:27 PM | Report abuse

PLEASE... FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, MAKE SOME NOISE ON SUNDAY! Especially all my fellow season tix holders in the nose-bleeds

Posted by: sniksder | September 21, 2007 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Jeff = David Duke

Posted by: I'm just sayin | September 21, 2007 1:29 PM | Report abuse

I do love DEVO.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 01:13 PM

Hey Nate, Mrs Redcoat just decided that she and I will be appearing as Devo from 'Whip It' at Thanksgiving. The Energy Domes have been ordered!!

Come back to Ashburn for 10/31 and join us!!

Posted by: Redcoat | September 21, 2007 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Dang, Redcoat... that is awesome, but do you think any of the squares in Ashburn will get it?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 1:31 PM | Report abuse

So the poms do thanksgiving on Halloween. I know you were different.

Posted by: bangkokben | September 21, 2007 1:32 PM | Report abuse

HaHa...this little tid-bit from the chat bears repeating:

"Herndon, Va.: ENOUGH with the music comments!

Jason La Canfora: sorry bro, it's my chat and i'll ipod if i want to"

John from Herndon? All I can say is, if the 'Skins lose to the lowly Gints, John's heart will be extremely broken.

"Redskins, why do you break my heart??"

[A classic line in RI history]

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 21, 2007 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Yes Zebrat, you are right I intially brought it up in relation the to the article that also talked about the O-line and other REDSKINS related topics. The McKnobb was posted at the bottom of the article and I responded to it because I don't think it belongs here. Listen D bag(oh such strong words) why don't you move to Louisana and make a difference.

To the rest of the Skins fans, I think Plaxico is a game time decision.

Posted by: Jeff | September 21, 2007 1:33 PM | Report abuse

So the poms do thanksgiving on Halloween. I know you were different.

Posted by: bangkokben | September 21, 2007 01:32 PM

Huh?

Posted by: Redcoat | September 21, 2007 1:34 PM | Report abuse

I'm tired of all the the people who are saying McNabb should shut up and play. I bet you the ones whon are thinking and saying this are from the caucasian persuasion or other race. Don't tell me the whole "He's a BLACK quaterback?" thing died when Doug Williams lifted the trophy. You know why? It still took another couple of years for Warren Moon to throw an NFL pass and even then you could count on two fingers the amount of black quateracks. It sickens me to hear people come with that "We've come along way" crap, it's bulls&@*! Everyone knows it. Let me tell you this country, this world will never come to a time where you look at a person of differnt race, color, religion, or orgin and physically see them as exactly like you, or in some case equal. Donovan McNabb told the abso truth and I LOVE how he stuck by his comments, no moonwalkin or flip-floppin. Here is an example of how racial equality is a jike in this country, well a few.

1)Affrimitive Action - if everything was so damn hunky dory, why is it needed? And if I could I would smack the first muthaf@&* who said "The individual best qualified for the job always gets the job".

2) Don Imus vs. Lamar Thomas - You probably don't know who Lamar Thomas is, huh? He's the guy who was fired for his on air comments regarding the The "U" and FIU brawl. Should he been fired? Yes. It was completley unprofessional, especially given it is during a fight with teenagers on the field. Note to Lamar Thomas: Its probably not good to promote violence among teenagers. By now we are all familiar with the comments made by one, Don Imus. What he said wasn't just degarding to that basketball team, but to all women, especially black women. (FTR, I don't know any nappy headed white women)So when CBS decided to axe his a$$ I had no issues what so ever. What surprised me was the uproar about his termination. 'Are you F'n kiddin me?' He refered to them as "Nappy headed hoes", where the beef? Oh and the kicker to me is the fact that people try to justify it by saying "Well, what about 'Rap' music?" Again, are you REALLY F'n kiddin me? Hip Hop is not real. 95% of what is said in hip hop or rap songs is not real. People don't care to pick the brain of 50 Cent, Kanye West, or T.I. on political issues, global warming, the iraq war, etc... They do with Don Imus. He was, excuse me, still is adored my millions of americans, which means they somewhat value his opinion, and it is a safe bet they'd agree on 90% of the crap that shoots out his face portal. Bottom line, Lamar Thomas (Miami U alumnus) is fired the next day, after his comments saying, "You don't bring that stuff to the OB baby." Y'alls (america) boy Don "Cause" Imus calls a basketball team "Nappy headed hoes" and "Jiggaboos", gets told to sit in acorner for a couple of days and when the cheddar starts to melt, tell him to get the steppin. Double Standarded. For who? I'll let you decide. All that racial equality, justice for all nonsense, can be told to a ignorant fool who dosen't know any better.

Posted by: Drama KING | September 21, 2007 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Hey I'm just saying, I will be sure to bring that up at my poker game tonight with my black friends who not only agree with me but when i beat them at Texas Hold em' they won't say they were trgeted for losing becuase they were black. Friggin dummy.

Posted by: Jeff | September 21, 2007 1:35 PM | Report abuse

bangkokben, 'Coat, funny funny.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Nate,

What do you think about generating a list of the classic, all-time best RI quotes?

Sounds like fun.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 21, 2007 1:37 PM | Report abuse

This is the dumb sh*% im talkin about right here!

First post on this chat... so who brought up race d-bag Jeff


"Funny how Rush Limbaugh said the same thing about McNabb two years ago and was basically forced to quit ESPN , yet McNabb can say it and get away with it why? because he is black. Total double standard.

Posted by: Jeff | September 21, 2007 12:00 PM "

Leave it to one of the fine people on RI to dress his a$$ up and set him straight.

Posted by: Drama KING | September 21, 2007 1:38 PM | Report abuse

JLa quit your whining. The Sawx have the 3rd best record in the majors since the All Star break. Unfortunately for the them the Yankees have the best record over the same period. Your boys are going to make the playoffs whether or not they win the AL East. Hold your head up son. Didn't they win their last World Series as a wild card?

Posted by: LH | September 21, 2007 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Hey Drama King, the truth hurts doesn't it. The fact of the matter is there will always be racism in the world but the point that people in the NFL are trying to prove is that you shouldn't be judged by your colour when it comes to winning football games. Rex Grossman isn't saying that. Drama King= dumbass

Posted by: Jeff | September 21, 2007 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Jeff, I'm hoping you're not as hidebound and uninformed in your views as you come across.

As a European conservative with a small 'c', which makes me a 'bleeding heart Liberal' over here, I want to believe the best of all people, but you're really not presenting yourself in a very enlightened way.

You keep referring to McNabb making 'excuses' for his play, when he had not yet played even a pre-season snap when the interview was conducted. What did he need to excuse back then pray tell?

If you don't like him because he's the Philly quarterback just say that and move on. McNabb's entitled to his opinion about how he's treated; neither you nor I are really in any position to posit on whether he's right or not.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 21, 2007 1:39 PM | Report abuse

What? you make no sense.

Your original post was about Mcnabb and limbaugh. Jasno had it in his second to last tccl... so that is why you responded. And if it doesnt belong here, then why respond? And then you proceeded to put your foot in your mouth by saying it was the same as limbaugh.

then people, like myself called you out and then you said lets not talk about race. Talk about backtracking.

I really dont understand why you want to cry for me or think I am a brat, I wasnt crying about anything. Just your position on the topic was stupid and I was pointing that out.

So keep talking so everyone can ignore you.

Posted by: Zebra | September 21, 2007 1:40 PM | Report abuse

So... how 'bout them Redskins?

Posted by: mmok | September 21, 2007 1:40 PM | Report abuse

My dad is black and my mom is white so I see both sides easily but I don't get involved in race wars therefore I will not comment.

Wake me up when this turns back into the blog that we all know and love.

Posted by: bigfish | September 21, 2007 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Why are we even bickering about McNabb. We all know he whines when things don't go his way.

I agreed with Skinz, he said something idiotic because he can't handle a little verbal abuse the same way he couldn't handle TO.

The sad part is he made this a racial issue when it really ought not to be. It was the iggles fan they boo anyone. Let's stop accusing each other of getting a boner out of calling another racist.

Let's focus on beating the crap out of the Jints instead.

HTTR.

Posted by: Stop | September 21, 2007 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Yawn....

Posted by: CHris larry | September 21, 2007 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Actually alot of people are talking about me on here, and I love it. I must be pulling a "McNabb".

How bout them redskins!

Posted by: Jeff | September 21, 2007 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Personal attacks seldom win arguments.

Posted by: etrod | September 21, 2007 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Reading this thread, I feel like I am sitting in the middle of one of my old political science classes.

I just don't think we will resolve the race issue up here. Can we talk about the Redskins, maybe?

*ducks his head from all the incoming vitriol*

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 21, 2007 1:43 PM | Report abuse

McNabb should shutup and play.

Your living up to your name Drama King.

Jeff just because Limbaugh was talking about the same person doesn't mean he was saying the same thing. He was actually saying almost the antithesis of what Limbaugh said. You're an idiot.

ITA

Posted by: I'm just sayzin is all.... | September 21, 2007 1:44 PM | Report abuse

This well be the last post about this...
Don't act like racial inequality dosen't exist. You probably are reminded when you look at another human who does not look like you and you from your conclusions about that persons race, whether good or bad. It's out there people. I find it pleasing to hear that other people, besides blacks, express the same sentiment and know this is still taking place.

Posted by: Drama KING | September 21, 2007 1:44 PM | Report abuse

...Unless you're arguing with Sean Taylor.

Posted by: etrod | September 21, 2007 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Time for a blogsprint... let's get the mojo back.

Somebody fire out a topic, something we can rapidly riff on...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Drama King, your name suits you. No one claimed it doesn't exist. It's just that not everything is about racism.

Posted by: Stop | September 21, 2007 1:48 PM | Report abuse

I say IJTA and let's talk Redskins. I know, I'm a huge hypocrite b/c I'm the King of Jibba Jabba, it's a real place ya know. But some folks (Jeff) are just here to spout venom.

Posted by: Larry Bud | September 21, 2007 1:48 PM | Report abuse

panties

Posted by: bigfish | September 21, 2007 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Favorite RI line:

John from Herndon (c. 2006 loss to Iggles to drop out of playoff race)

"Redskins, WHY DO YOU BREAK MY HEART?!?!"

This line concisely summed up my feelings of the '06 season (when I went under the moniker "disappointed").

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 21, 2007 1:48 PM | Report abuse

I agree with your first point to Drama King, I'm just sayin. Oh I'm an idiot, maybe is because I'm mexican, thats is isn't u racist bastard

Posted by: Jeff | September 21, 2007 1:48 PM | Report abuse

thongs

Posted by: bigfish | September 21, 2007 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Nate, it was NOT random quote generation ... it was the Statement Game. [Invented by yours truly, inspired by you saying that this game was a game where the Skins needed to make a statement. I think you actually put it in quotes, "statement" game.]

Also, did I just read someone type "some of my best friends are black"? I thought that was only on television. White privilege is invisible (to most white people), so I'm just going to pull the pin on that grenade and run.

I don't really have much that I'm "looking for" from the Skins on offense. Kind of going to kick back in a lawn chair kind of way and see what they have to show me. I'm back in full pre-season mode on offense, i.e., PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don't anybody get injured. Its the defense that will keep me nervous (and I don't want anybody there to get injured either). Return to my regularly scheduled irrational timidity.

p.s. Redcoat, don't the British have some autumn holiday that involves burning things or a bonfire or something like that? In the words of the immortal Beavis, "fire fire fire!"

Posted by: dcsween | September 21, 2007 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Bloomers

Posted by: bigfish | September 21, 2007 1:49 PM | Report abuse

.s. Redcoat, don't the British have some autumn holiday that involves burning things or a bonfire or something like that? In the words of the immortal Beavis, "fire fire fire!"

Posted by: dcsween | September 21, 2007 01:49 PM

I think that's Jeff and it's called a cross burning.

Posted by: I'm just sayin | September 21, 2007 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 21, 2007 1:51 PM | Report abuse

"Loud Noises!"

Posted by: bigfish | September 21, 2007 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Slender-alls

Posted by: etrod | September 21, 2007 1:53 PM | Report abuse

I kid, I kid, sween. I knew it wasn't random quote generation, it was a very, very serious game.

SCSkinsFan, the game you propose sounds like too much work! For up here, for the Ultimatum, I mean. All time greatest posts is a GREAT project for the wiki.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Why can't Mexican have BBQ's

The beans fall through the grill

Posted by: Jeff | September 21, 2007 1:55 PM | Report abuse

bikini briefs

Posted by: bigfish | September 21, 2007 1:55 PM | Report abuse

underoos.

Posted by: etrod | September 21, 2007 1:56 PM | Report abuse

French cut bikinis

Posted by: Larry Bud | September 21, 2007 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Why does Michael Jackson shop at K-Mart?


He heard little boys' pants were half off.

Posted by: bigfish | September 21, 2007 1:56 PM | Report abuse

boxers

Posted by: mmok | September 21, 2007 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Do you think we start blitzing L2 more this week knowing that eli gets rattled whe he gets hit. and who do we put on shockey to keep him quiet.

Posted by: SAK | September 21, 2007 1:58 PM | Report abuse

DONT NEED A F'N REMINDER WHY COMMENTS FROM ME HAVE THIS NAME ATTACHED TO IT!!!! ME A RACIST, HARDLY, LOL. I TELL WHATS ON MY MIND, AND GIVE TWO SH*TS IF YOU LIKE IT OR NOT. TRUTHFULLY, I COULDNT TELL A WHITE MAN, OR A MAN WITH MEXICAN DECENT WHAT IT IS LIKE TO WALK IN THEIR SHOES, JUST LIKE HOW YOU CANT TELL ME WHAT IT IS LIKE TO WALK IN THE SHOES OF A BLACK MAN. IT IS TRUE THAT EVERYTHING IS NOT ABOUT RACE, BUT TELL ME HOW EASY IT IS TO MAKE A STATEMENT LIKE THAT WHEN THE COLOR OF YOUR SKIN IS FOUND IN PROBABLY LIKE 65% OF THE US POPULATION, MAYBE HIGHER. LOOK I'M EVEN DONE WITH TALKIN ABOUT THIS. TWO THINGS THAT SHOULD NEVER BE BROUGHT UP. ONE, POLITICS. TWO, RACIAL AND RELIGION ISSUES, IT ALWAYS SEEMS TO PISS EVERYONE OFF, AND DESPITE THE NAME I REALLY DON'T ENJOY DRAMA. CAREFREE IS THE WAY TO BE! HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY EVERYONE

Posted by: Drama KING | September 21, 2007 1:58 PM | Report abuse

G-strings

Posted by: bigfish | September 21, 2007 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Uhhhhg, I'm beginning to miss the statement sprint. What I really want is to migrate to another blog. I stay for the ol' timers. You're my boy Blue!!!!

I digress:


5 TCCL: Buges-another injury another fine game by the O-line. I personally think you one crazy son of a SJK but you sure can "coach-em-up"

5 TCCL: Winning- At midnight on monday night myself and two other grown men were jumping up and down giggling like 12 year old school girls slapping "fives" with my dog looking at us like we are idiots.

4 TCCL: The new Bois on D- Rocky, LFB and L2 flying to the ball.

4 TCCL: Sellers- My man crush on you continues. I see a Pro Bowl invite for you this year.

3 TCCL: Right side of the line- Good job last week. Keep it up you have a far more stern test upcoming.

2 TCCL: Cooley's involvement- TD catch aside, I don't see him involved as much as i'd like. I think him being a threat in the passing game is the key to our O this year.

1 TCCL: Politics, Religion and Race on the blog- It's divisive and doesn't belong here. There are other forums to discuss such things.

Posted by: Skinz | September 21, 2007 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Please see the rules regarding the caps lock key.

ITA

Posted by: bigfish | September 21, 2007 2:00 PM | Report abuse

crotchless

Posted by: Zebra | September 21, 2007 2:00 PM | Report abuse

White privilege is invisible (to most white people), so I'm just going to pull the pin on that grenade and run.

Posted by: dcsween | September 21, 2007 01:49 PM

American privilege is invisible to most Americans. Some of you fine folks should go live or just visit a third world country (not Cancun or Aruba!) and see how good both Black and White people have it in America!

Posted by: Forrest | September 21, 2007 2:01 PM | Report abuse

From an ESPN chat:

John(Manhatten): Do you think Sean Taylor and Laron Landry will be more feared for their hard hitting or their playmaking abilities?

Matt Williamson: (12:23 PM ET ) Both. Those two are bad bad men. I guess their striking ability. Killers.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | September 21, 2007 2:02 PM | Report abuse

I think the Skins need to apply a liberal dose of L2 to Eli's face the same way LSU did in that clip on the RI wiki

http://redskinsinsiders.wetpaint.com/page/Video+Pages

(first vid)

Posted by: redskirt | September 21, 2007 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Thank God it's Friday.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 2:02 PM | Report abuse

p.s. Redcoat, don't the British have some autumn holiday that involves burning things or a bonfire or something like that? In the words of the immortal Beavis, "fire fire fire!"

Posted by: dcsween | September 21, 2007 01:49 PM

You're referring to Guy Fawkes Night 'sween. It 'celebrates' a failed plot by conspirators to blow up the houses of parliament with barrels of gunpowder while the representatives were in there at the time on November 5th, 1605.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes_Night

Traditionally people would build a bonfire and put a 'Guy' on the top (Guy was named for Guido Fawkes, leader of the plot). A 'Guy' is actually a dummy made out of old clothes stuffed with newspaper, with a fake head on the top. While the bonfire burns kids used to sing "Remember, remember the 5th of November, gunpowder, treason and plot"

The idea was that you let fireworks off (to celebrate the gunpowder part of the plot) and then burn the Guy on the bonfire.

The actual conspirators weren't burnt, that would be barbaric; I believe they were hung, drawn (while still alive) and quartered, and then their severed heads were placed on spikes at the Tower of London until they rotted.

It was still a big deal with bonfiresd in most people's backywards when I was growing up, but mostly it's just official firework displays now as SO many people had been injured/killed by fireworks over the years.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 21, 2007 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way when you criticize them, you'll be a mile away and you'll have their shoes.

--Jack Handy

Posted by: etrod | September 21, 2007 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Some of you should step off your high horse, get off the cross and quit assuming you know who you are talking to. It's really tiresome and ignorant.

Posted by: I'm just sayzin is all.... | September 21, 2007 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Now getting back to the basics...

The four keys to the game
http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=29486

Should see a great matchup with Jermey Shockey vs. Fletcher/Washington/Landry.

Who is the RB for the Giants, Jacobs is still out right?

Posted by: Drama KING | September 21, 2007 2:05 PM | Report abuse

I second the ITA.

Posted by: Stop | September 21, 2007 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way when you criticize them, you'll be a mile away and you'll have their shoes.

--Jack Handy

Posted by: etrod | September 21, 2007 02:03 PM

LMGO

Posted by: redskirt | September 21, 2007 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat,

Either Jeff is a troll or he's completely blind. At this point, he either deserves pity or loathing.

After winning the Super Bowl, Doug Williams was asked, "What was the lowest point in your career?" He replied that once, when he was on the Bucs, he played a bad game and his team lost. A couple of days later, he got a package in the mail wrapped in beautiful paper with a bow on it. Inside the package was a rotten grapefruit. The grapefruit had a note attached to it: "If it wasn't for your black a*s, we would have won."

Despite playing in a time that was a lot less kind to black QBs, that was STILL the lowest point in Doug Williams' career. It's not just something that "goes with the territory" for anyone. Only someone who had never had an experience like that would say something so incredibly ignorant.

According to some, McNabb faces similar criticism: people in the Philly stands calling him the n-word when he plays badly.

Nobody in their right mind would compare the criticism Rex Grossman or Eli Manning gets to the type of hate I just described. If you do, you're a damn fool. Period.

And the same people that say "not everything is about race" are the people who say that *every time* an issue like this comes up. How many people have ever said, "Every single solitary thing in this world is about race"? McNabb never even said that his treatment was "all about race" - he just said it was a factor in the way people view his career. Nothing more, nothing less.

Jason blogged about it, so it's fair game. If you want to be annoyed that people are discussing this, be annoyed at him for bringing it up. Personally, I'm glad he allows stuff like that in every so often.

Posted by: jcabana | September 21, 2007 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat, the inspiration for V for Vendetta, correct?

Good movie BTW

Posted by: Zebra | September 21, 2007 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Interesting.... Jeff spelled color with a "u".

Posted by: Hmmmm | September 21, 2007 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Big Fish,

Me too...

Huge game tonight... We have to turn it around now... 1.5 games is not much with 9 or 10 games to go... Reyes needs to pick his head up and sto pressing. He's got too much talent to be down on himself. Everybody has slumps but enough is enough... Willie and or Rickey need to give him a big pep talk if they haven't yet. I'm glad we have Pedro on the mound 2night. I'm trying my best to stay positive, but blowing the leads we keep blowing and the lack of production from a couple of key guys is really hurting.

I think Willie is taking some unfair criticism! It's a bit exaggerated. What is he supposed to say, 'Hey - we suck I think we're screwed, put a fork in us... we're done.' Come on... Now, granted, some of his comments have been a bit shocking considering the situation they are in... but no way he should loose his job if they continue to collapse. HOWEVER, if he's not getting in some players faces and challenging them and making understand the urgency of what they have left in the season... then he's not doing his job.

Rick Peterson needs to start coaching up this staff.. they have struggled since the all start break with their consistency...

Time to be Big Time, guys!

Posted by: E in VB | September 21, 2007 2:07 PM | Report abuse

White privilege is invisible (to most white people), so I'm just going to pull the pin on that grenade and run.

Posted by: dcsween | September 21, 2007 01:49 PM

American privilege is invisible to most Americans. Some of you fine folks should go live or just visit a third world country (not Cancun or Aruba!) and see how good both Black and White people have it in America!

Posted by: Forrest | September 21, 2007 02:01 PM


Served 6 years in the US Army. Been to Iraq x2. Nothing nice about that place, very depressing actually. Yes, it does make you long for home.

Posted by: Drama King | September 21, 2007 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Yep Z, that was the inspiration, right down to the mask 'V' wears being the same as the design that was always sold to put on the dummies.

I agree, it was a really good movie.

I spell colour with a 'u' too Hmmmmm, so what?

Posted by: Redcoat | September 21, 2007 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Just got done talking to my co-worker who is a huge eagles fan. She rolled her eyes and said "I just hope they win this weekend" when I asked "What's up with your boy McNabb?"

We are fickle people that care about winning and losing. If you don't think its that simple, I apologize.

Posted by: Dorf | September 21, 2007 2:11 PM | Report abuse

I promise, I promise, there will be NO MORE MILESTONES after we hit 100k (sometime tomorrow??)...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 01:04 PM

Hopefully then megskin will come back to grace us with her presence

Posted by: Dante | September 21, 2007 2:11 PM | Report abuse

anyone remember when the blog used to be fun?

Posted by: Jeff Hayes | September 21, 2007 2:11 PM | Report abuse

These will be the best receivers the Redskins have faced yet. Despite the "Plexiglass" stuff, Plaxico has actually developed into a very dangerous receiver over the years. And Toomer is consistently good, especially against the 'Skins. I think the Redskins' secondary play will be the key to the game (along with the o-line, of course).

Posted by: jcabana | September 21, 2007 2:11 PM | Report abuse

LOL, one word for you Drama King " Prozac".

Posted by: Jeff | September 21, 2007 2:12 PM | Report abuse

A Vicky's Teddy w the snap button crouch!

Posted by: E in VB | September 21, 2007 2:13 PM | Report abuse

***Baseball related post***

Very well put E in VB. I agree with everything you said but the number 1 problem IMO is the bullpen. Blowing leads like they have too often in the last couple weeks is just unacceptable, especially last night (horrible). Our offense keeps putting up the numbers but the bullpen keeps losing the games against bad tems like the Nats and the Marlins. Meanwhile Philly is hot on our tails. I hope things get turned around very quickly starting tonight.

Posted by: bigfish | September 21, 2007 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Anyone notice that Lisa has been missing mostly since JM has been gone for Ramadan?

Just sayin' is all...

Posted by: Redcoat | September 21, 2007 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Not sure if this has been linked. Lot's o skin questions.

http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/chatESPN?event_id=17332

Posted by: Skinz | September 21, 2007 2:14 PM | Report abuse

I am so sick of "the black excuse" Cmon folks haven't we been passed all that. That whole thing died once Doug Williams raised the Lombardi trophy. McNabb is just using that as an excuse cause...well... he sucks. If anyone watched the MNF game he was walking around smiling, overflowing with confidence because he believed that the game would already be his for the taking and that he could shine in the MNF spotlight. Then reality set in and the outcome was obvious ... your skills are no more and thats why the Iggles drafted Kolb. So what does he do, uses the black excuse....typical. Listen McKnobb, the black excuse has been worn down as much as the"Wuuuuuuz up" term. The spotlight isn't on you anymore and your confidence isn't what it was, so ditch the black excuse and practice more.


You sound like a real Idiot with the whole black excuse thing. It was hardly ended just because Doug Williams raised the Lombardi trophy. You Idiot!!!!

Posted by: wstclair | September 21, 2007 2:15 PM | Report abuse

And the same people that say "not everything is about race" are the people who say that *every time* an issue like this comes up.

Posted by: jcabana | September 21, 2007 02:05 PM

I agree I'd say it every time for issues like this--which is not about racism. But won't say it for other issues that are.

Posted by: Stop | September 21, 2007 2:15 PM | Report abuse

jcabana,

what you last posted... i agree completly. at this time though, its best to let it go and let the peeps who try to be numb to the notion of racial inequality live in their damn fantasy worlds. BTW, Hunky Dory citizens of the USofA, is it possible i could get number of your travel agents, becuase it is obvious you don't live on this planet. Letting it go... letting it go... letting go... now... gone.

Posted by: Drama King | September 21, 2007 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Jeff Hayes!

Haven't seen your name in a while. After seeing what Sean Taylor did to that punter, I don't blame you. You should have been here yesterday during the "statement game". A complete blast.

Posted by: etrod | September 21, 2007 2:16 PM | Report abuse

As an airplane is about to crash, a female passenger jumps up frantically and announces, "If I'm going to die, I want to die feeling like a woman."

She removes all her clothing and asks, "Is there someone on this plane who is man enough to make me feel like a woman?"

A man stands up, removes his shirt and says, "Here, iron this!".

Posted by: bigfish | September 21, 2007 2:18 PM | Report abuse

jcabana, maybe facing a better set of WRs in this game, but not necessarily a better QB. I would say Elisha is as capable of screwing up as old Trent Green and old, hurt McNabb, and far more susceptible to getting flustered than either of those two.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 2:18 PM | Report abuse

I told you all there was a BEEP BEEP!, I believe a select few owe me an apology.

Posted by: C-lo | September 21, 2007 12:39 PM

Hey, C-lo - here's your apology, RI-style:

F off.

Posted by: B-high | September 21, 2007 2:19 PM | Report abuse

***Baseball related post***

Bigfish... Very True.

The bullpen was the staple of this team last year. Now, it is the demise!

Philly is damn hot and they have become so accustomed to their skethcy pitching that they know they have to come from behind every game and it doesn't phase them anymore.... That is scary.

Posted by: E in VB | September 21, 2007 2:21 PM | Report abuse

A husband and wife and their two sons are watching TV. She looks at her husband and winks at him, he gets the message and says, "Excuse us for a few minutes boys, we're going up to our room for a little while."

Pretty soon one of the boys becomes curious, goes upstairs and sees the door to his parents bedroom is ajar. He peeks in for a few minutes, trots downstairs, gets his little brother and takes him up to peek into the bedroom.

"Before you look in there," he says, "keep in mind this is the same woman who smacked our a$$es just for sucking our thumbs."

Posted by: bigfish | September 21, 2007 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Throwing the ITA flag on myself for bad grammar and perpetuating the conversation.

TGIF and HTTR.

Let's blitz LBM, shut down the sidelines, and force Plax and Shox to go inside Area 51.

Posted by: Stop | September 21, 2007 2:21 PM | Report abuse

LOL, one word for you Drama King " Prozac".

Posted by: Jeff | September 21, 2007 02:12 PM

Does it work for cataracts? Oh well about to get my daily 10 grams anyway

Posted by: DRAMA King | September 21, 2007 2:23 PM | Report abuse

An old man in the nursing home got a bottle of wine for his birthday. He talked the old lady in the next room into sharing it with him.

After they were both totally bombed, he started groping the old lady and pulling at her clothes. He managed to get her blouse and bra off before she stopped him.

She said, "I can't do this, I have acute angina".

The old guy says "God, I hope so cause you've got the ugliest tits I've ever seen."

Posted by: bigfish | September 21, 2007 2:23 PM | Report abuse

A man says to his wife "Get your coat on. I'm going down to the bar."

His wife replies "Oh, you're taking me out for a drink? How nice!"

The man says "Don't be stupid. I'm turning off the heat."

Posted by: etrod | September 21, 2007 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Wait, so it's going to be off-colour jokes then? I'm as lousy with jokes as I am with everything else.

Dare I ask for another topic to be suggested?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Just need a few more comments from each of you before you leave work today.

Just a few comments, on ANYTHING, with extra bonus points for making it Skins-related.

If you don't chip in your buck oh five, who will?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Dare I ask for another topic to be suggested?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 02:25 PM

How about McNabb's comments?

Posted by: Stop | September 21, 2007 2:27 PM | Report abuse

I spell colour with a 'u' too Hmmmmm, so what?

Posted by: Redcoat | September 21, 2007 02:10 PM

Exactly.

Posted by: Hmmmm | September 21, 2007 2:27 PM | Report abuse

mmok said they prefer boxers, to which i thought mmok is a she.
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Then I remembered my days at private school.

Freshman year, one of the cutest girls in the class, sitting across the room, with boxers on underneath her rolled up skirt. I was just staring at her crotchal region (hey i was 14 and I wanted to know why i was drawn to this area of her body)... so she notices and calls me out in the middle of class.

I was embarrassed for a second since event he teach heard, then I quipped back loudly "well if you would close your legs I would have nothing to stare at wouldnt I?" You heard a couple "D@mn!!!s form the other guys in the room.

Funny S...

Posted by: Zebra | September 21, 2007 2:28 PM | Report abuse

"Help him."

"Help who?"

"Help the bombardier."

"I'm the bombardier!"

"Help him!"

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Drama King, Brandon Jacobs replacement is a guy named Derrick Ward. Do a search in the previous post. He is one of guys that gives me pause. [He leaped frogged from #3 to #1 and Reuben Droughns remains the proverbial Ladell Betts, only without the yardage.]

Posted by: dcsween | September 21, 2007 2:29 PM | Report abuse

If we are just going for post number i'd prefer just do a dot or something. Easier to scroll through.

Posted by: Da Truef | September 21, 2007 2:29 PM | Report abuse

I know this is in 'olde English' but as a Brit it stirs my heart to hear it just the same.

I wonder whether anyone makes 'blood and thunder' type speeches in locker-rooms any more before games, or is it "remember your assignments, now go out and do your best" stuff now?

If we are marked to die, we are now
To do our country loss; and if to live,
The fewer men, the greater share of honour.

God's will, I pray thee, wish not one man more.
By Jove, I am not covetous for gold,
Nor care I who doth feed upon my cost;
It earns me not if men my garments wear;
Such outward things dwell not in my desires:
But if it be a sin to covet honour,
I am the most offending soul alive.

No, faith, my coz, wish not a man from England:
God's peace, I would not lose so great an honour
As one man more, methinks, would share from me,
For the best hope I have. O, do not wish one more.

Rather proclaim it presently through my host,
That he which hath no stomach to this fight,
Let him depart. His passport shall be made
And crowns for convoy put into his purse:
We would not die in that man's company
That fears his fellowship to die with us.

This day is called the Feast of Crispian:
He that outlives this day, and comes safe home,
Will stand a-tiptoe when the day is named,
And rouse him at the name of Crispian.

He that shall see this day and live to old age,
Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours,
And say "To-morrow is Saint Crispian":
Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars
And say "These wounds I had on Crispin's day."

Old men forget: yet all shall be forgot,
But he'll remember with advantages
What feats he did that day. Then shall our names,
Familiar in his mouth as household words
Harry the King, Bedford and Exeter,
Warwick and Talbot, Salisbury and Gloucester,
Be in their flowing cups freshly remembered.

This story shall the good man teach his son;
And Crispin Crispian shall ne'er go by,
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remember'd;
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he today that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition:
And gentlemen in England now abed
Shall think themselves accursed they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap while any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day.

Shakespeare's version of Henry V's speech to his hugely outnumbered army before the Battle of Agincourt.

* St Crispin's Day is 10/25 so sadly no games that day this year!

Posted by: Redcoat | September 21, 2007 2:32 PM | Report abuse

bigfish, I hope Larry Bud isn't reading right now. You've got to be doing a number on his bruised ribs.

Posted by: redskirt | September 21, 2007 2:32 PM | Report abuse

They call me tater salad

Posted by: ron "tater salad" white | September 21, 2007 2:32 PM | Report abuse

My wife spells color with a "u" also. Hmmmmm.

Redskins

Posted by: bigfish | September 21, 2007 2:32 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 2:33 PM | Report abuse

3. Don't be scared by Washington's patchwork offensive line (Jason Fabini and Jon Wade on the right side) because Joe Gibbs knows he can still power-rush left,


Peter King at his best. Jon Wade sure looks good.

Posted by: Skinz | September 21, 2007 2:33 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: bigfish | September 21, 2007 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Redskins related post:

As good as the D has been through 2 games, I'm still concerned by the number of times I've seen a third in long situation addressed by sending an all out blitz, only to see the D get burned for a first down.

That happened routinely last year during every single game. It isn't happening as much this year, but it's still happening.

At what point do you guys think the gamble will no longer be worth it in the eyes of Man Boobs? Never? Once they start producing turnovers without a blitz?

Posted by: swb | September 21, 2007 2:35 PM | Report abuse

I spell colour with a 'u' too Hmmmmm, so what?

Posted by: Redcoat | September 21, 2007 02:10 PM

Exactly.

Posted by: Hmmmm | September 21, 2007 02:27 PM

Whatever.

Nice "Catch-a-twen-tee-too" ref. there Nate. Dang that was a good film!

Posted by: Redcoat | September 21, 2007 2:35 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 2:35 PM | Report abuse

I agree with sween, Derrick Ward is a back of the Brian Westbrook/Tiki Barber variety that our stout defense tends to have trouble with. They're gonna have to wrap him up because he'll do some damage in the open field.

Posted by: etrod | September 21, 2007 2:35 PM | Report abuse

I think that a couple of the key's to this game are going to be:

1. Running the ball between the tackles, as well as running right at Strahan. I know that he's slowly working himself into shape, which combined with it being a hot day, we should wear his a$$ out.

2. Scoring EARLY, and OFTEN, to put them into a panic, and forcing them to throw. Their offensive line isn't anything to write home about, so Carter needs to bring it hot off the corner.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | September 21, 2007 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Just read the plaxico did not practice and the gints are concernicus re his ankle. Any knowledge on this? I would love it if that chooch couldn't play and catch 16 yard passes in front of Fred 'The Cushion' Smoot and the super frustrating awkward lob from Manning where the Fox guy gives him credit for a great throw when it was really a duck because he's contractually obligated to spitshine new york players...

Note: I hate the giants so much.

Posted by: ArtMonkToTheSticks | September 21, 2007 2:37 PM | Report abuse

"I'm mad as hell and I'm NOT going to take it anymore!"

Posted by: Redcoat | September 21, 2007 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Blogging all week ... free

Statement Game ... free

Getting a call at 2:30pm on a Friday afternoon from a co-worker with a spare seat on the lower level at FedEx for face value (plus permission from the wife) ... priceless.

Posted by: dcsween | September 21, 2007 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Sean Taylor spells color with a 'U' as in; "U gonna correct me? I din't think so."

Posted by: etrod | September 21, 2007 2:37 PM | Report abuse

A Dallas Cowboy fan, a Washinton Redskin fan and Julia Roberts were all sitting together on the subway when the lights went out, and the car went completely dark. In the darkness there was a kissing noise, and then the sound of a really loud slap! When the subway car's lights came back on, Julia and the Redskin fan were sitting as if nothing happened, while the Cowboy fan was holding his slapped face! The Cowboy fan was thinking, "That Redskin fan must have kissed Julia, and she swung at him and missed, slapping me instead!" Meanwhile, Julia was thinking, "That Cowboy fan must have tried to kiss me, accidentally kissed the Redskin fan, and got slapped for it!" And the Redskin fan was thinking, "This is great! The next time the subway car's lights go out, I'll make another kissing noise and slap the crap out of that Cowboy fan again!"

Posted by: bigfish | September 21, 2007 2:37 PM | Report abuse

I think color with a "u" in it is how its spelled in french, cant remember 100% french class was more years ago than i want to remember

Posted by: SAK | September 21, 2007 2:38 PM | Report abuse

"Insanity runs in my family. It practically gallops."

Posted by: Redcoat | September 21, 2007 2:39 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Wife and in-laws are Brits. Color with a "u" is a British thing for sure. I'm sure it's spelled like that elsewhere as well.

Posted by: bigfish | September 21, 2007 2:42 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Skinz | September 21, 2007 2:42 PM | Report abuse

"You aren't too bright. I like that in a man."

Seems I've heard that in person a few times.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 21, 2007 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Yo my boy Jeff Hayes poppin in!

Posted by: chris larry | September 21, 2007 2:43 PM | Report abuse

There is a Redskins fan, a Giants fan, and a Cowboys fan that got caught drunk in Saudi Arabia, where it is highly illegal to consume alcohol. They are all sentenced to be whipped 200 times. Luckily the whipper was a football fan and seeing as they were too, he gave each of them one wish. The Giants fan was first, he asked if he could have a pillow tied to his back to make it hurt less. But the whip broke through the pillow after like 20 whips and the Giants fan was in extreme pain. The Cowboys fan saw what had happened, so he asked to have 2 pillows tied to his back, but the whip again broke through. Last was the Redskins fan. The whipper said "You are a redskins fan, the greatest team in the world, you are allowed 2 wishes!" So the Redskins fan thought for a minute. "For my first wish, i want to be whipped 1,000 times!" The whipper was confused. "For my second wish, tie the Cowboys fan to my back!!!"

Posted by: bigfish | September 21, 2007 2:44 PM | Report abuse

How come "panties" are plural but "bra" is singular?

Posted by: etrod | September 21, 2007 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Is there blog addiction hot line I can call...

I'm starting to worry about myself.

Posted by: Dorf | September 21, 2007 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Pretty-much anywhere that used to be a colony bigfish, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa (not Canada now though, sigh).

I think all the phonetic spellers (why isn't that word spelled the way it sounds?) travelled over on the Mayflower so you're stuck with different spelling.

Oh, and that odd thing where you don't use knoves to eat except when you cut your food up at the start!!! I know the origin of that but I've rambled on more than enough already today....

Posted by: Redcoat | September 21, 2007 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, for 'knoves' please read 'knives'.

.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 21, 2007 2:46 PM | Report abuse

A first grade teacher explains to her class that she is a Dallas Cowboy fan. She asks her students to raise their hands if they, too, are Cowboy fans. Everyone in the class raises their hands except one little girl. The teacher looks at the little girl with surprise and says, "Jenny, why didn't you raise your hand?" Jenny replied, "Because I'm not a Cowboy fan!" The still shocked teacher asked, "Well, if you aren't a Cowboy fan, then who are you a fan of?" Jenny answered, "I'm a Redskin fan and proud of it!" The teacher couldn't believe her ears. "Jenny, why in the world are you a Redskin fan?!" Jenny replied, "Because my mom is a Redskin fan, my dad is a Redskin fan, so I'm a Redskin fan, too!" The teacher answered in a slightly annoyed tone, "That is no reason for you to be a Redskin fan! You don't have to be just like your parents all of the time. What if your mom was a moron and your dad was a moron, what would you be then?!" Jenny smiled and said, "Then I'd be a Dallas Cowboy fan!"

Posted by: bigfish | September 21, 2007 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Sporks, knoves, whatever...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 2:48 PM | Report abuse

How come "panties" are plural but "bra" is singular?

Posted by: etrod | September 21, 2007 02:44 PM

The same reason that boxers, briefs, pants, and shorts are, while shirt, sweater, and tank top are not--there's more going on down there.

Posted by: redskirt | September 21, 2007 2:49 PM | Report abuse

A Cowboys fan tried to blow up my car but he burned his mouth on the tailpipe.

Posted by: etrod | September 21, 2007 2:49 PM | Report abuse

"Insanity runs in my family. It practically gallops."

Posted by: Redcoat | September 21, 2007 02:39 PM

Why the quotes?

Posted by: Mark (in 21132) | September 21, 2007 2:49 PM | Report abuse

We're about 80 shy of 98,500...

Posted by: MV Dame | September 21, 2007 2:49 PM | Report abuse

This seems more like a classroom discusion than a football blog.
Just a thought, not a cermen

Posted by: SAK | September 21, 2007 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Heh heh, Jasno said "big-money busts" heh heh.

Posted by: Beavis | September 21, 2007 2:50 PM | Report abuse

The whipper was confused. "For my second wish, tie the Cowboys fan to my back!!!"

Posted by: bigfish | September 21, 2007 02:44 PM

brokeback football fans?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2007 2:51 PM | Report abuse

A body was found naked here the other day, and when the coroner arrived to examine the body. The police officer said to him "you're not going to believe this one". The coroner began his exam, he noticed an Eagles cap over the victim's left breast, he lifted it up, jotted a few words on his legal pad and continued his exam. He then noticed a Redskin's cap over the right breast of the victim he again looked under it and jotted a few more notes on his legal pad. Then the police officer said to him"what do you make of this"...pointing to a Cowboys hat covering the victim's crotch. The coroner lifted it up, shook his for a few seconds then lifted it up again for a second look, about this time the police officer ask "what's the problem" The coroner said I'm use to seeing A#@holes under Cowboy hats!

Posted by: bigfish | September 21, 2007 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Thank you, redskirt. But how come "skirt" is singular?

Posted by: etrod | September 21, 2007 2:52 PM | Report abuse

You said Busts, but no time to laugh at that now

Posted by: Peter Griffin | September 21, 2007 2:52 PM | Report abuse

I'm a complete and utter mongrel American, but I eat with my knife in my right and my fork in my left (not just to cut at the beginning). I've been told that's weird of me.

I think I learned it from my Alabaman(?)grandfather...

Posted by: redskirt | September 21, 2007 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Upon hearing that her elderly grandfather had just passed away, Katie went straight to her grandparent's house to visit her 95-year-old grandmother and comfort her.

When she asked how her grandfather had died, her grandmother replied, "He had a heart attack while we were making love on Sunday morning."

Horrified, Katie told her grandmother that 2 people nearly 100 years old having sex would surely be asking for trouble.

Oh no, my dear," replied granny. "Many years ago, realizing our advanced age, we figured out the best time to do it was when the church bells would start to ring. It was just the right rhythm. Nice and slow and even. Nothing too strenuous, simply in on the Ding and out on the Dong."

She paused to wipe away a tear, and continued, "He'd still be alive if the ice cream truck hadn't come along."

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2007 2:54 PM | Report abuse

It's in quotes because sadly I didn't say it Mark (in 101001010001100).

An acting hero and fellow countryman of mine, did.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 21, 2007 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Thank you, redskirt. But how come "skirt" is singular?

Posted by: etrod | September 21, 2007 02:52 PM

Ahh! I knew that question might be coming. I'm a champion theorizer, so I'll say it's because the word is of Scandinavian origin.

Posted by: redskirt | September 21, 2007 2:55 PM | Report abuse

A boy is wallking near Fed Ex Field when he sees a man being attacked by a viscious dog. He finds a stick and charges the dog without any fear. He gets to the dog, slips the stick through the collar and twists really hard, breaking the dog's neck and saving the man's life. A news reporter for the Washington Post was close by and witnessed the whole event. He rushes over to the hero and tells him he wants to put this in the paper with the head line: "Redskins Fan Saves Man from Imminent Death"

The boy replies "I am not a Redskins fan." Perplexed, the reporter asks "what kind of fan are you?" The boy replies " A Cowboy fan!" The reporter decides on another headline: "Ignorant Redneck Ba$tard Kills Family Pet."

Posted by: bigfish | September 21, 2007 2:55 PM | Report abuse

could Lisa and redskirt be the same blogger?

Posted by: dcsween | September 21, 2007 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Sure, say somethin bad about Alabama, and Lisa will be up here in a flash.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2007 2:55 PM | Report abuse

I'm a champion theorizer
Posted by: redskirt | September 21, 2007 02:55 PM

Oh, if only my name were Theo!

Posted by: etrod | September 21, 2007 2:56 PM | Report abuse

I'm a complete and utter mongrel American, but I eat with my knife in my right and my fork in my left (not just to cut at the beginning). I've been told that's weird of me.

I think I learned it from my Alabaman(?)grandfather...

Posted by: redskirt | September 21, 2007 02:53 PM

That's interesting, maybe there's some European heritage way back in your family 'skirt.

Mrs Redcoat's mother used to get told off for doing that by her grandparents when she was little, they would say "stop eating like a German!".

Posted by: Redcoat | September 21, 2007 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone have the link to Jason's Redskins chat?

Posted by: Chad | September 21, 2007 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Keep 'em coming bigfish

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2007 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Hey Chad, how's it hanging?

Posted by: Redcoat | September 21, 2007 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: redskirt | September 21, 2007 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Gee, I'm not sure - let me check with Jeremy.

Posted by: Chad | September 21, 2007 3:02 PM | Report abuse

This one's just for Cooley:

During preseason training, a college football lineman married one of the team's cheerleaders. The coach was a bit surprised and remarked to his star football player, "You are such a big, burly guy. Why in the world did you marry such a tiny, petite woman? She is no bigger than your hand." "That's right, Coach," replied the lineman. "But, she's much, much better!"

Posted by: Redcoat | September 21, 2007 3:02 PM | Report abuse

In my family, we used the knife in the right, and the fork in the left. On my dad's side third generation german. On my mom's side, scotch-english, many generations in Maryland.

Posted by: Mark (in 21132) | September 21, 2007 3:03 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2007 3:03 PM | Report abuse

The Seven Dwarfs were marching through the forest one day they fell in a deep, dark ravine. Snow White, who was following along, peered over the edge of the steep chasm and called out to the fallen dwarfs. From the depths of the dark hole a voice returned, "The Cowboys are Super Bowl contenders."
Snow White thought to herself, "Thank God... at least Dopey's survived!"

Posted by: SAK | September 21, 2007 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Hey Chad, when you smile do you have dimples?

Posted by: Redcoat | September 21, 2007 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Hey Jeff, thanks for providing the idiot's perspective on race and the QB position. You do a real service to those of us who don't spend a lot of time hanging out with mouth breathers.
All QBs receive the lion's share of credit as well as blame for a team's success. And most QBs have their skills and abilities questioned at some point during their career regardless of color. The difference between the way a white QB is treated versus a black QB, is with the later group, fans and media folks will often ask, "Can he play the position?" As if he has all the tools necessary athletically but somehow something is missing to qualify him for the job. That may not be the noose in tree type of racism we've been hearing about lately, but it's racist non the less.

Posted by: Mac | September 21, 2007 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, redskirt!

Posted by: Chad | September 21, 2007 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Mark (in 528C) I don't think you're supposed to use the word 'Scotch', rather use 'Scots'. At least that's what my grumpy Scottish friends tell me.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 21, 2007 3:06 PM | Report abuse

No, sorry, dcsween, I'm just me (not posing as anyone else).

These jokes are great, bigfish...I'm thinking they should get added to the Wiki, too.

And Redcoat! Wow...well, most of my family heritage is I *suppose* German, but they immigrated in the 1720's and 1750's so I would seriously doubt any cultural connection remains. Still it's kind of cool, thanks for the anecdote!

OK...back to regularly scheduled Skins-blogging.

P.s. Bad etrod. :)

Posted by: redskirt | September 21, 2007 3:06 PM | Report abuse

If you see a Giants fan on a bike, why should you not swerve to hit him?
It could be your bike

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2007 3:06 PM | Report abuse

I just read Wilbon's article. Kind of Ironic it wasn't in the usual box on the right gutter.

Anyways. I think Mr. K and Wilbon are great at analyzing these issues, I just wish we could comment on them, like we can on others.

Look at Weinstein. He writes a few pieces a week and normally gets bashed abundantly (guilty) in the comments section, but at least he's enabled that forum.

Man...Why did I drink all those Mai Tai's at lunch.

Posted by: WaPoLiveFan16 | September 21, 2007 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Mac - You can ask those questions about any player regardless of race or position they play. You're reaching now...

Posted by: Not Jeff | September 21, 2007 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat,

Thanks, my mom always says the other, but I will remember - Scots.

Posted by: Mark (in 21132) | September 21, 2007 3:10 PM | Report abuse

You're trapped in a room with an angry grizzly bear, a hungry Lion, and a Cowboy fan. You have a gun with two bullets. What should you do?

Shoot the Cowboy fan... twice.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 21, 2007 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Mac, for retard perspective on things. The debate was originally started by just making about that color of skin means nothin. So go F*ck your mother, I di last night.

Posted by: Jeff | September 21, 2007 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Albert Einstein arrives at a party and introduces himself to the first person he sees and asks, "What is your IQ?" to which the man answers,"241." "That is wonderful!," says Albert. "We will talk out the Grand Unification Theory and the mysteries of the Universe. We will have much to discuss!"
Next Albert introduces himself to a woman and asks, "What is your IQ?", to which the lady answers, "144." "That is great!," responds Albert."We can discuss politics and current affairs. We will have much to discuss!"
Albert goes to another person and asks, "What is your IQ?" to which the man answers, "51." Albert responds, "How 'bout them Cowboys?"

Posted by: bigfish | September 21, 2007 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Zebra | September 21, 2007 3:14 PM | Report abuse

As always, Stay classy Jeff.

Posted by: bigfish | September 21, 2007 3:15 PM | Report abuse

There's a guy from Washington, DC (Redskins fan) driving from DC to Dallas, and a guy from Dallas (Cowboys fan) driving from Dallas to DC. In the middle of the night with no other cars on the road they hit each other head on and both cars go flying off in different directions. The Redskins fan manages to climb out of his car and survey the damage. He looks at his twisted car and says, "Man, I am really lucky to be alive!"
Likewise the Cowboys fan scrambles out of his car and looks at the wreckage. He too says to himself, "I can't believe I survived this wreck!" The Cowboy fan walks over to the Redskin and says, "Hey man, I think this is a sign from God that we should put away our differences and live as friends instead of arch rivals. The Redskin fan thinks for a moment and says, " You know, you're absolutely right! We should be friends. Now I'm going to see what else survived this wreck."
So the Redskins fan pops open his trunk and finds a full unopened bottle of Jack Daniels. He says to the Cowboys fan, "I think this is another sign from God that we should toast to our newfound understanding and friendship."
The Cowboys fan says, "You're damn right!" and grabs the bottle and starts sucking down Jack Daniels. After putting away nearly half of the bottle the Cowboys fan hands it back to the Redskins fan and says, "Your turn!"
The Redskins fan twists the cap back on the bottle and says, "Nahh, I think I'll wait for the cops to show up."

Posted by: bigfish | September 21, 2007 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Q. What do you call a drug ring in Dallas?
A. A Cowboys huddle.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 21, 2007 3:17 PM | Report abuse

whoa.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 3:17 PM | Report abuse

That's all for now. Gotta get ready to go pick my kids up. Stay classy RI's.

Posted by: bigfish | September 21, 2007 3:17 PM | Report abuse

I hear the Cowboys will have an 11 and 5 season this year. 11 arrests, 5 convictions.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 21, 2007 3:18 PM | Report abuse

F*ck u as well bigfish or is that what your mom's p*ssy smells like

Posted by: Jeff | September 21, 2007 3:18 PM | Report abuse

whoa, Jeff & his detractors, whoa. everybody cool it.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Little Johnny was in his Kindergarten class when the teacher asked the children what their fathers did for a living. All the typical answers came up - fireman, policeman, salesman.

Johnny was being uncharacteristically quiet, and so the teacher asked him about his father.

"My father's an exotic dancer in a gay cabaret and takes off all his clothes in front of other men."

The teacher hurriedly set the other children to work on some colouring in and took little Johnny aside to ask him...

"Is that really true about your father working in a gay strip club?"

"No" said Johnny, "he really plays for the Dallas Cowboys but I was too embarrassed to say."

Posted by: Redcoat | September 21, 2007 3:20 PM | Report abuse

".....Then speaking and removing any doubt"

need I say more Jeff?

Posted by: Zebra | September 21, 2007 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Jeff, please cool it. Tried to be the kinder, gentler Nate and draw you into a civil conversation up here, and I still think that's possible if you want to play nice, but at the moment you are out of line.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Z. ITA.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 21, 2007 3:21 PM | Report abuse

ixnay, Zeebs. you too. cool it now.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 3:22 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2007 3:23 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2007 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Wow. We need a new thread in a bad way. Way too much tension on the old blog today! Can't we all just get along?

Posted by: nah | September 21, 2007 3:24 PM | Report abuse

WHO: Nate in the PDX
SONG: Cool It Now (New Edition)

Posted by: MV Dame | September 21, 2007 3:25 PM | Report abuse

All righty, moving right along after that little burst of unpleasantness.

Catch up with y'all in a bit for the evening shift.

Almost exactly two days left to go, and we're about 1,500 comments shy. Let's get this ridiculous Ultimatum behind us, people, so we can focus on the game... and the other jibba jabba.

Happy Friday, everybody.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat, way to pick up the joke-torch from bigfish.

Seriously, are you guys putting these together on the wiki? I wish I'd known some of these jokes back in middle school when all the ignorant Dallas bandwagoners were buying Emmitt Smith and Troy Aikman jerseys.

Posted by: redskirt | September 21, 2007 3:26 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2007 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Geeze, I'm bored and the blog isn't exactly stimulating. We need to institute the "boozy lunch" here in the stats. That's one thing you Brits get right RC.

Posted by: Skinz | September 21, 2007 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Mac, for retard perspective on things. The debate was originally started by just making about that color of skin means nothin. So go F*ck your mother, I di last night.

Posted by: Jeff | September 21, 2007 03:11 PM

Jeff, thanks for making my point for me.


Mac - You can ask those questions about any player regardless of race or position they play. You're reaching now...

Posted by: Not Jeff | September 21, 2007 03:08 PM

Right, like when everyone suggested moving Patrick Ramsey to wide receiver.

Posted by: Mac | September 21, 2007 3:32 PM | Report abuse

One more for the road.

There was a Frenchman, a Mexican, a Redskin fan, and a Cowboy fan sitting up on a hill getting drunk. The Frenchman tilts up his bottle of Champagne till empty, throws the bottle in the air, shoots it with his pistol, and yells
"Viva La France".

Just after that the Mexican finishes his bottle of Tequilla, throws it in the air, fires his pistol, and shouts "Viva La Mexico"

Just about that time the Redskin fan finishes his Budwieser, tosses the can on the ground, pulls his gun and shoots the Cowboys fan, and then says calmly "IT DOESN'T GET ANY BETTER THAN THIS"

Posted by: bigfish | September 21, 2007 3:33 PM | Report abuse

An Redskin fan was driving down a country road when he came upon two Cowboy football players hitchiking. He told the Cowboy players to jump in the back of his pick-up truck. He then drove down the dirt road rather fast and lost control of the truck as they were going around a curve. The truck landed in a lake. The Redskin fan scrambled to the surface and swam to the bank. When he looked back at the lake, the two Cowboy football players were still sitting in the bed of the truck looking frantic. As the truck began sinking the Skin fan yelled for the Cowboy players to get out truck, to which they replied, "We're tryin' to get out, but we can't get the dang tailgate open!"

Posted by: SAK | September 21, 2007 3:33 PM | Report abuse

The DC Police officer pulled over a car with Texas plates. When the driver opened the window the officer smacked him upside the head.

"What the hell was that for" The driver exclaimed, as his passenger laughed beneath his breath.

"Here in DC when you get pulled over you have your License and Insurance ready." Replied the Cop.

The driver quickly got his information ready and the officer returned to his squad car to write the ticket. When he got back he handed the driver his papers and his new ticket. The officer proceeded to the passenger side window and asked that it be rolled down. After it's down the officer smacks the passenger upside the head.

"What the hell was that for" Asked the confused passenger.

"Granting a wish" stated the officer.

"What wish?"

"I just knew that as soon as you pulled away you were going to say 'I just wish he would've tried that S*** on me.'"

Posted by: Redcoat | September 21, 2007 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Last one for now. I swear.

The assistant county coroner calls the head coroner at 3:00 AM and says excitedly, "You have to come into the office, I have something incredible to show you."
The coroner responds, "Just tell me what it is over the phone."
But the assistant says, "This is something you just have to see."
The coroner then says, "It better be good for you to wake me up so early."
He gets dressed and drives the fifteen minutes to his office. When he gets there, he sees a dead man, wearing a Cowboys' hat, lying on a gurney, face down, with a cork stuck in his butt.
The assistant coroner pulls the cork out and out comes a noxious fart that says, "The Cowboys are number 1."
The assistant asks "Isn't that the most amazing thing you've ever seen?" To which the coroner replies, "You mean you got me up at 3:00 in the morning just to hear another a$$ say the Cowboys are number one?"

Posted by: bigfish | September 21, 2007 3:35 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: | September 21, 2007 03:29 PM

That about sums up Rex Grossman's upside.

Posted by: SMACK | September 21, 2007 3:38 PM | Report abuse

I think white runningbacks face greater criticism than their black counterparts.

Posted by: SMACK | September 21, 2007 3:39 PM | Report abuse

During the Super Bowl, there was another football game of note between the big animals and the small animals. The big animals were crushing small animals and at half-time, the coach made a passionate speech to rally the little animals.

At the start of the second half the big animals had the ball. The first play, the elephant got stopped for no gain. The second play, the rhino was stopped for no gain. On third down, the hippo was thrown for a 5 yard loss.

The defense huddled around the coach and he asked excitedly,"Who stopped the elephant?"

"I did," said the centipede.

"Who stopped the rhino?"

"Uh, that was me too," said the centipede.

"And how about the hippo? Who hit him for a 5 yard loss?"

"Well, that was me as well," said the centipede.

"So where were you during the first half?" demanded the coach.

"Well," said the centipede, "I was having my ankles taped."

Posted by: Redcoat | September 21, 2007 3:40 PM | Report abuse

The stunning 30-ish woman is looking at the 40 year old guy in the supermarket. She walks over to him ad says 'Hi, I think you're the father of one of my kids".

Instantly, the always faithful husband starts flashing back to his pre marriage days. And it hits him. Drunk at his bachelor party. "OH MY GOD. You were the one who was on top while those other women were putting the stockings on me and tying me up in that corset thing that night!!! He gasps.

She looks at him. "Don't think so, but your son Timmy is one of my students in my 1st grade class.

Posted by: AL | September 21, 2007 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Brandon Lloyd is jogging down the street when he sees a building on fire. A lady is standing on a third story ledge holding her pet cat in her arms.

"Hey, lady," yells Lloyd, "Throw me the cat."

"No," she cries, "It's too far."

"I play football, I can catch him."

The smoke is pouring from the windows, and finally, the woman waves to Lloyd, kisses her cat goodbye, and tosses it down to the street. Lloyd keeps his eye on the cat as it comes hurtling down toward him. The feline, bounces off an awning and Lloyd runs into the street to catch it. He jumps six feet into the air and makes a spectacular one handed catch. The crowd that has gathered to watch the fire breaks into cheers. Lloyd does a little dance, lifts the cat above his head, wiggles his knees back and forth, then spikes the cat into the pavement.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 21, 2007 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Nate,

have you ever been told you look like a celebrity, and if so, who?

Posted by: Tomskin | September 21, 2007 3:44 PM | Report abuse

,.l..

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2007 3:47 PM | Report abuse

1,2,3,4,5 against 1. 5, 5, 5 against 1.

Posted by: Eddie Veder | September 21, 2007 3:48 PM | Report abuse

The young woman was talking with her gynocologist and began blushing and stuttering. The doc calmed her down and said that she could ask any question, that he was a professional.

So, awkwardly, seh asked "Can I, umm, get pregnant, uh, from ugh, anal sex?"

"Sure" said the doc, "where do you think Cowboy fans come from?"

ps -- feel free to substitute lawyers in there instead

Posted by: AL | September 21, 2007 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Every time a bell rings....

...Troy Aikman says "I'm batman"

Posted by: Dik | September 21, 2007 3:49 PM | Report abuse

I think white runningbacks face greater criticism than their black counterparts.

Posted by: SMACK | September 21, 2007 03:39 PM

Lol, which one Travis Jervey? He dosen't play anymore, I think.

Posted by: Drama KING | September 21, 2007 3:51 PM | Report abuse

In my search for (vaguely) football-related jokes I found this great write-up for the upcoming Grrls v. Bears game.

Cowboys at Bears: That's right. It's a possible NFC Title Game (soon to be renamed "The Default Bowl") preview. It all comes down to the quarterbacks: on one side, you have Tony Romo, who is calm, composed and works just as hard as his fellow Mexican day laborers. On the other side, you have the Sex Cannon, who plays the position exactly the same way I would, i.e.

"Holy pooh! Look at this! I'm a fricken pro quarterback! Good God, I feel like a fricken rock star. I really did a nice job tucking my jersey in today. It's not coming loose at all. I love how this tape feels around my fingers. Look at those honeys in the third row. I bet I could tag that. That's not Florida "meow", but still. "meow" ain't got no face! That's what I say! Wait, where'd the ball go?"

LMGO!

Posted by: Redcoat | September 21, 2007 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Who cares about the SOX. They gave us Willy Joe and whatdya know. Next year it will be NATIONALS and NO MORE DIRTY SOX!

Posted by: periculum | September 21, 2007 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Of course there isn't a pic of him. On wiki its noted that he beat Chuck Norris in a race, F'n Chuck Norris.

Posted by: DRAMA King | September 21, 2007 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Whaddye call a 3/4 full bus of Cowboys fans goin over a cliff?

...A waste of space.

Posted by: Dik | September 21, 2007 3:56 PM | Report abuse

He jumps six feet into the air and makes a spectacular one handed catch. The crowd that has gathered to watch the fire breaks into cheers. Lloyd does a little dance, lifts the cat above his head, wiggles his knees back and forth, then spikes the cat into the pavement.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 21, 2007 03:42 PM

LMGO

Posted by: Stop | September 21, 2007 3:58 PM | Report abuse

I am out - the lawn calls.

Posted by: Mark (in 21132) | September 21, 2007 4:01 PM | Report abuse

don't hate the lawyers....

Posted by: mile high | September 21, 2007 4:02 PM | Report abuse

On the D-line. Two new guys at the end positions. (Three if you figure that Andre' took a year to readjust to end as opposed to hybrid linebacker.) Two new guys at the tackle positions.

Two veteran stalwarts in Daniels and Griffin.

Its a lot younger. I think they are still evolving and/or progressing in Williams scheme. I don't think they are clicking on all cylinders yet. The linebackers are probably further along and they are still adjusting. The corners have played the best. The safeties next.

The "O" is still a work in progress Jason. And the Hank Stram Chinese fire drill at the half seems to prove it. However, progress is being made as Joe's risky call at the half also proves. Still won't admit that he really isn't the bastion of conservatism will you?

Teams are doing well, and steadily getting better as expected.

Nice look on redskins.com Jasno! Got to see you ask Joe a question about the new receiver, Caldwell? Or were you asking about Brandon again? Couldn't quite hear the question.

Posted by: periculum | September 21, 2007 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Why are laboratory scientists switching from rats to Cowboys fans for their experiments?
1. Cowboys fans are more plentiful than rats
2. the lab technicians don't get as attached to the Cowboys fans
3. there are some things a rat just won't do
4. neither the animal rights activists nor the human rights activists get all upset about it

What's the only disadvantage to using Cowboys fans instead of rats in laboratory experiments? It's harder to extrapolate the test results to human beings.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 21, 2007 4:02 PM | Report abuse

funny or true? Brandon Lloyd vs Taylor Jacobs in 2007

Catches Yds Rushes Yds
BL 0 0 0 0
TJ 0 0 1 -8

So, you can't tell me that BL is the worst WR out there ...

Posted by: AL | September 21, 2007 4:03 PM | Report abuse

A Redskins-loving truck driver used to amuse himself by running over Cowboys fans he would see walking down the side of the road. Every time he would see a Cowboys fan walking along the road, he would swerve to hit them, and there would be a loud "THUMP" and then he would swerve back onto the road.

One day, as the truck driver was driving along he saw a priest hitchhiking. He thought he would do a good turn and pulled the truck over. He asked the priest, "Where are you going, Father?" "I'm going to the church 5 miles down the road," replied the priest. "No problem, Father! I'll give you a lift. Climb in the truck." The happy priest climbed into the passenger seat and the truck driver continued down the road. Suddenly the truck driver saw a Cowboys fan walking down the road and instinctively he swerved to hit him. But then he remembered there was a priest in the truck with him, so at the last minute he swerved back away, narrowly missing the Cowboys fan. However even though he was certain he missed the Cowboys fan, he still heard a loud "THUD".

Not understanding where the noise came from he glanced in his mirrors and when he didn't see anything, he turned to the priest and said, "I'm sorry Father. I almost hit that Cowboys fan." "That's okay", replied the priest. "I got him with the door!"

Posted by: Redcoat | September 21, 2007 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Where is SMACK?
He's missing all the fun.

Posted by: Stumped | September 21, 2007 4:09 PM | Report abuse

I am out - the lawn calls.

Posted by: Mark (in 21132) | September 21, 2007 04:01 PM

You need to start screening your calls Mark.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 21, 2007 4:10 PM | Report abuse

A man was sent to Hell for his sins. As he was being taken to his place of eternal torment, he passed a room where a man in a Giants shirt was having an intimate conversation with a beautiful young woman. "What a rip-off," the man muttered. "I have to roast for all eternity, and that Giants fan gets to spend it with a beautiful woman."

Jabbing the man with his pitchfork, the escorting demon snarled, "Who are you to question that woman's punishment?"

Posted by: Redcoat | September 21, 2007 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Q. How do you kill a Jets fan when he's drinking?
A. Slam the toilet seat on his head.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 21, 2007 4:13 PM | Report abuse

98,511

Exactly 48 hours left. Need to average 744.5 per day or 31 per hour...

Posted by: MV Dame | September 21, 2007 4:13 PM | Report abuse

What's the difference between a Giants fan and a catfish? One's an ugly, scum sucking bottom-feeder and the other is a fish.

Uh-oh, I tink I'm mono-blogging....

Hullo..? ..llo.. ..lo ..o?

Posted by: Redcoat | September 21, 2007 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Q. What's the difference between a Cowboys fan and a trampoline?
A. You take off your shoes before you jump on a trampoline.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 21, 2007 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat,
No one can keep up. You're churning them out faster than I can read,em...and I got nothin.

Posted by: Stumped | September 21, 2007 4:18 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2007 4:19 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2007 4:20 PM | Report abuse

I'm just sitting back and reading...sorry, you lulled me into a blog-induced haze.

Posted by: redskirt | September 21, 2007 4:21 PM | Report abuse

I saw a number of negative comments on Jason Campbell in the online chat and I want to put this in perspective.

My mother started going to games when the Skins arrived here. Of Sammy Baugh, she said that whenever he launched it deep, she heard a sound in her head like a bomb dropping, it felt like time stood still, and you had to stand up and watch because it was likely that something spectacular would happen way downfield. She stopped going to games and let us go because, after Sammy retired, she never heard the "sound" again.

In my generation, I heard the "sound" with Sonny Jurgensen for years when he threw deep, which is why I wear his number to games. I have never heard the "sound" from another Skins QB since.

Suddenly, with Jason Campbell I hear the "sound" again, and I thought I never would. This is NOT to suggest he is Baugh or Jurgensen -- there are many years to go and many mountains to climb before he can even approach that. What it does mean to me is that this kid is the real deal, and if he keeps on the path he is on, in a couple of years we might have something real special here (that's a couple of years, folks -- stop demanding it by the 1st Quarter this Sunday) and if we end up with a special QB, then we are never truly out of it. Until then, enjoy the signs of what is there, applaud when he does something really good, groan when he doesn't, and just watch him growing right before your eyes. And, if you listen hard enough, you will also hear the "sound".

Posted by: Gaithersburg Skin | September 21, 2007 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Awesome Redskirt the plan is working. Now take off all you clothes and post the naked pictures on the Wiki.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 21, 2007 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Gaithersburg Skin...now that's a great contribution to the blog today.

Posted by: redskirt | September 21, 2007 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Gaithersburg Skin...now that's a great contribution to the blog today.

Posted by: redskirt | September 21, 2007 04:26 PM

I second that.

Posted by: mmok | September 21, 2007 4:28 PM | Report abuse

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and I'll say it one more time

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OK, outta here.

Posted by: dcsween | September 21, 2007 4:28 PM | Report abuse

...unlike Redcoat's contribution at 4:24 PM today.

Posted by: redskirt | September 21, 2007 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Redskirt, My apologies lass. I got caught up in the moment. Silly wanker I am.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 21, 2007 4:31 PM | Report abuse

A football referee died and went to heaven. Stopped by St Peter at the gates he was told that only brave people who had performed heroic deeds and had the courage of their convictions could enter. If the ref could describe a situation in his life where he had shown these characteristics, he would be allowed in.

"Well," said the ref, "I was reffing a game between the Cowboys and Redskins at Texas Stadium. Redskins were 2 points ahead, 5 seconds to go. Campbell took the snap, faked the handoff to Portis and passed deep to Moss. Moss got great blocks but was tackled by Wiliams and fell into the end zone as time ran out.

However, Moss put a knee down before he crossed the line, but as the Redskins were clearly the better side all game, I ruled that he had crossed the line and allowed the Touchdown."

"OK, that was fairly brave of you, but I will have to check it in the book." says St. Peter, and disappears to look it up. When he comes back he says "Sorry, there is no record of this. Can you help me to trace it? When did all this happen?"

The ref looked at his watch and replied "about 5 seconds ago."

Posted by: Redcoat | September 21, 2007 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Snap Gaithersburg....."Post of the Day"

The anti-JC questions on the blog I found puzzling, idiotic and short sighted

Posted by: chRIS larry | September 21, 2007 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Oh great, a fake Redcoat now....

Posted by: Redcoat | September 21, 2007 4:34 PM | Report abuse

10,000,000 TCCLs - Jasno: for putting up with the jerks on RI and putting in the long hours covering our team for us (even though he's a Skins hater)

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2007 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Where's Nate when you need him? Now I have to go look for my "fake-be-gone" spray.

Redskirt, I suggest it's fairly easy to tell the difference between my posts and the fakes.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 21, 2007 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat, Don't flatter yourself Sh!t head.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2007 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Gaithersburg Skin....you gave me chills

Posted by: POOP | September 21, 2007 4:44 PM | Report abuse

5 TCCLs (Even though I haven't read up on what they are... I know - I'll wiki this weekend!) to the real REDCOAT for BHGO in pursuit of the Ultimatum. And he ain't even a 'Skins fan!! Hey, a fan of the blog is good enough, right?

Everybody, let's BOGO this weekend, or if you prefer, wang chung.

"Maps"

Posted by: Dik | September 21, 2007 4:45 PM | Report abuse

News: The Bears released Jimoh, again, on Friday, in order to bring back Dirk Johnson.


Impacts: Chicago initially signed Jimoh on Sept. 11, cut him before the Kansas City game and signed him again Wednesday. He had 65 special teams tackles and 28 on defense over four seasons with the Washington Redskins.

Posted by: Not Again | September 21, 2007 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Wow, this must be some sort of very minor fame for me. I seem to have acquired my very own troll/impersonator.

Congratulations, you broke the Blog. You must be very proud. Is this the best thing that's ever happened to you in your life perhaps? Do you feel that you maybe even have enough courage now to go outside and (whisper it) speak to a girl!

Posted by: Redcoat | September 21, 2007 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Dik, much appreciated.

Gaithersburg, you sort of summed up how it used to feel when I fell in love with this game watching Marino play, although watching from thousands of miles away can't compare to the way you describe BEING THERE as it happens. Beautifully put.

And whichever blogger it was who listed Dirk Johnson as their favourite porn-star name will be happy he's back on the roster!!

Posted by: Redcoat | September 21, 2007 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Oh, no, Redcoat, was that a fake you? I'm sorry, I'm terrible at identifying a fake. I meant no insult (it did seem a tad out of character, if that helps).

Posted by: redskirt | September 21, 2007 4:51 PM | Report abuse

How many Cowboys fans does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

2 - one to screw in the bulb, the other to do all the coke and insult your wife.

Posted by: Dik | September 21, 2007 4:52 PM | Report abuse

-10 TCCLs for Baltimoreans who root for the Red Sox

- 1,000,000 TCCLs for Peter Angelos for forcing them to follow a competitive team

Posted by: skinswest | September 21, 2007 4:54 PM | Report abuse

F Fakes

Posted by: Stumped | September 21, 2007 4:54 PM | Report abuse

It was a fake me. Don't worry, I took no insult.

It's sad that some people have so little joy in their lives that this is the best they can do for themselves.

I basically always post 'in character' although I was 'skippy' a couple of times in the past - that will mean something to regulars, but I challenge them to pick which ones were me. ;-)

Posted by: Redcoat | September 21, 2007 4:55 PM | Report abuse

I thot they were called Baltimorons? jk.. kinda... ;-p

Posted by: Dik | September 21, 2007 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Skippy is subconscious theatre at its best.
The Skipster, Skipmiester, Skip!

Posted by: Stumped | September 21, 2007 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Yeah I agree about Sellers. They guy even looks better running the ball than Portis and Betts ... hmm John Riggins ... Gerald Riggs, George Rogers ... hmmmmmmmm


Posted by: periculum | September 21, 2007 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat,

Do the 'Fins get off the schnide this weekend against the Jets, or do you foresee an 0-3 start?

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 21, 2007 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Alright kiddos - have a great weekend and I hope to catch some of you.. maybe even Nate, lord knows he never comes by anymore... [:-|

xox

Posted by: Dik | September 21, 2007 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and I was also 'FauxCo Mullin' once, I have to admit that too. But 4:24 and 4:31 are NOT me, so if Cyn Cyty decides to have "the powers that be" trace the IP address of those posts I wouldn't object....

And if the WaPo doesn't have the technology to do that (which I believe they do) the company I work for does - and does so for 3-letter agencies all the time.

Fake posters, behave.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 21, 2007 5:00 PM | Report abuse

SC, Ihave to think if we don't win this one we're in real dire straits. Pennington is banged up and Clemens isn't that good, yet.

I think we scrape a win. If we lose, it will be a LONG season.

I must away, family calls. I'm 3 time zones off most of next week and working at a trade show, but I will make appearances as and when I can.

Have a great weekend all, and good luck vs. the evil Gints!

HAIL! (to the Dolphins)

Posted by: Redcoat | September 21, 2007 5:03 PM | Report abuse

You'll be missed Redcoat, you've been tearing it up, dude. Bon voyage.

Breach! Leap! Cartwheel! etc. etc.

Posted by: Stumped | September 21, 2007 5:14 PM | Report abuse

So...no more ultimatums after this one! Promise! You guys rule.
I'll check in tomorrow with an update or two or three...BTW, for those who live in the area and are, like, literate, Mark Maske is signing copies of his book on the NFC East from 6-8 p.m. tomorrow (Saturday) at Politics and Prose.

Posted by: Cindy | September 21, 2007 5:16 PM | Report abuse

where did all the geeks go?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2007 5:17 PM | Report abuse

reading hurts

Posted by: Stumped | September 21, 2007 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Re McNabb criticism - racially motivated or otherwise

Though Chris Cooley had a great point about this on the Elliott in the Morning show. Philly absolutely trashes its sports stars; a lot of the additional abuse may not be racially motivated, it may be a Philly thing.

Ron Jaworski got KILLED in the papers/by other fans throughout his playing days in Philly. While nobody called Jaws the N word, I certainly heard a lot of Polack jokes tossed around about him.

Not a sermon, just a thought

Adam

PS bangkokben, read the Whitlock article. interesting idea and well written, but I wasn't buying it.

Posted by: EaglesFan | September 21, 2007 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Cyndy:

Have you seen the wiki yet:

http://redskinsinsiders.wetpaint.com/

Posted by: chris laRry | September 21, 2007 5:22 PM | Report abuse

cheesesteaks!

Posted by: mmmmmm good | September 21, 2007 5:25 PM | Report abuse

No sympathy for McNabb here!

The media over reacts to everything, but McNabb is clearly too stupid or just not smart enough to eat a can of Campbell's Shut-Your-Mouth!

You win 1 of your last 8 games as a QB most people fall under heavy criticism and are usually fired!! Whether their skin is Paisley or Plaid!

BACK TO THE REAL ISSUE OF MONDAY NIGHT!!!

-10 TCCL for ESPN's Broadcast of Monday Night Football!!

I know I'm not watching it anymore this year!! You couldn't even turn the volume off because they kept cutting away from the game and back to the booth!

Only last year's NFL Network broadcast was historically worse....that will be forever known as "The Bryant Gumbel Game"

Posted by: Mike C | September 21, 2007 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Jeff, I will remind you that the interview was before the season started, before he even knew the team would be 0-2.

Now that being said, with how he's being treated over the course of the past two weeks, I'd say his statement was dead on.

Posted by: HU-Bison! | September 21, 2007 5:35 PM | Report abuse

All this talk about racism's got me stirred up, if a bit belatedly.

I don't know if this has been covered in this blog or not, I'm a pretty avid reader but I haven't come across an argument about the name of our beloved franchise.

Before I say my piece, just know that I'm obsessed with the Skinz and follow every game with the zeal of a total fanatic.

Nonetheless, come on guys, we are fans of what is clearly one of the most racist team names in the history of sports. The fact that we are here in the 21st century and still calling our team the 'Redskins' is pretty atrocious no? Every time I hear the name I can't help but wince.

It's a simple analysis to make really. If an ethnicity, or race of people, or folks from a certain religion, find your name reprehensible as countless Native Americans have, then you just change it. And no, white people don't get to make the call just because they grew up with a team known as the redskins, because white people aren't the ones being denigrated. you can't tell Native Americans to 'take it as a sign of respect' when they find it repellent, you can't force them to have a different attitude about what we call them. considering the fact that the u.s. government systematically exterminated virutally the entire NA race, it's all the more egregious that we reduce their culture to a some dbag on the sidelines wearing a stereotypical headress and wielding a rubber tomahawk. It's all pretty sad isn't it?

Snyder's belief that all the sudden some of the most passionate fans in the world would stop buying his merchandise/tix/ad space if we changed our name is unsubstantiated and unlikely. If we changed the name of the Bullets for God's sake, I think it's okay if we change the name of the Blackies, I mean the Yellowskins, wait, I mean the slant-eyes, no the wops, oops, i mean the...

ps--i dare you to bring up the Fighting Irish.

Posted by: Geronimo | September 21, 2007 5:36 PM | Report abuse

What a fun dialogue on the blog today.

Who plans their poker night for a Friday? Aren't there more social things to do, that involve members of the opposite sex?

I'm nervous about the Giants game - the Giants defense appears to be really, really angry... like, "Jeff" angry. My hope is that they implode, but I could see a solid run-stuffing effort and an interception from their rookie corner.

I hope the Skins come in with a chip on their shoulder after last year's Giants games.

Posted by: mugamack | September 21, 2007 5:40 PM | Report abuse

And to the skins fan from Coral Springs, FL who wrote in on Jasno's chat today:

"Coral Springs, Fla.: Love the blog. During Gibbs 2, the 'Skins have had big let downs after big wins. In '05 after our big Monday night win in Dallas, they lost the next two."

The Redskins started 3-0 in 2005. Game 2 was the Monday night Comeback. They had a bye in week 3 and beat Seattle by a field goal in the closing seconds of game 3 (week 4). Then they went on the road and lost 2 games they should have won against Denver and KC.

At least that's how I remember it.

Posted by: mugamack | September 21, 2007 5:44 PM | Report abuse

I'm a little nervous about this Giant's game too. They seem to use the skins to get back on track on a regular basis.
As Michael Vick would say, we need to put this weak dog down. I hope the skins smell blood and tear these guys a new one.

Posted by: CoSkins | September 21, 2007 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: mugamack | September 21, 2007 5:51 PM | Report abuse

What a horrible analogy. Thank you.

Looks like Plexiglass is sand-bagging:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/2007-09-21-3804815003_x.htm

Posted by: mugamack | September 21, 2007 5:54 PM | Report abuse

What an idiotic blog! That was a waste of time on my part for reading it. NEVER AGAIN!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2007 5:54 PM | Report abuse

This blog is a waste of time...

Oh, you think so, Doctor?

Here's an entertaining, completely off-base analysis of the Skins:

New York Giants at Washington (-3.5): The Redskins are off to a fast start, but it's probably not going to last. Joe Gibbs tends to get a little distracted this time of year because of all the excitement surrounding NASCAR's Chase for the Cup.
Pick: Washington

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/extramustard/09/20/picks.week3/

Posted by: mugamack | September 21, 2007 6:01 PM | Report abuse

I'm banking on the Giants being a little too high-strung for Sunday's game.

Check out this article:

http://wnyt.com/article/stories/S202585.shtml?cat=300

Couglin and the vets are in do-or-die mode.

Shockey on the other hand, has to be pissing everybody off:


"Tight end Jeremy Shockey, mindful of the Giants' 2-6 second half last season, has found a silver lining in the Giants' slow start.

"It is definitely early, so you chill out as much as you can," he said."

Posted by: mugamack | September 21, 2007 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Just

Posted by: farstriker | September 21, 2007 6:07 PM | Report abuse

putting

Posted by: farstriker | September 21, 2007 6:08 PM | Report abuse

NFL NETWORK just reported that Tony Romo in his 12 starts is 2nd in NFL History with most yds thrown.Kurt Warner is 1st and we know what that offense accomplished!

Posted by: Megskin | September 21, 2007 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Interesting thing about that article - the byline:

"By: Michael Eisen and The NY Giants"

How does that work?

Posted by: mugamack | September 21, 2007 6:10 PM | Report abuse

my

Posted by: farstriker | September 21, 2007 6:10 PM | Report abuse

two cents

Posted by: farstriker | September 21, 2007 6:11 PM | Report abuse

in.

Posted by: farstriker | September 21, 2007 6:13 PM | Report abuse

megskin sighting!

Posted by: chRIS Larry | September 21, 2007 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Is that really megskin?

Write something in italics...

Posted by: mugamack | September 21, 2007 6:18 PM | Report abuse

The latest must-read from Dillweed:

http://www.postgameheroes.com/?p=875

Posted by: mugamack | September 21, 2007 6:19 PM | Report abuse

How great is it to have London Fletcher playing the Mike as Antonio Pierce loses his mind? 2006 was almost worth it, if it got us here.

Tiki on Horngate:

"Now that things are struggling, first of all he runs away from it early in the week and now he's refusing to answer questions by being completely disrespectful to a group of people who are just trying to do their job," Barber said. "That's the job of media, ask the question. And you don't have to answer it but don't be rude."

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/

Posted by: mugamack | September 21, 2007 6:28 PM | Report abuse

my favorite A.P. quote:

"I don't got no horn today. I've got a better one for you all next time." He said it would have something to do with "rotten eggs," but I'll admit I didn't really understand what he was saying.

Posted by: mugamack | September 21, 2007 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Giants DT Barry Cofield's response to Antonio Pierce's suggestion that all of the Giants' defenders were boycotting the media because they got together to read a book on Patton:

"I haven't read a book since elementary school," Cofield said.

Posted by: mugamack | September 21, 2007 6:34 PM | Report abuse

I humbly propose another haiku contest. That SJK was fun, if inherently antithetical to the essence of football. I'll attempt to kick-start this bad idea with one of my own. It took me 3 minutes, so I hope you like it:

Rocky road for Eli;
ARE you for real, man!
Campbell Soup - mm, mm, good.

HAIL!!

Posted by: LMG | September 21, 2007 6:35 PM | Report abuse

Rocky road for Eli

Isn't that 6?

Posted by: mugamack | September 21, 2007 6:39 PM | Report abuse

There's a place for those who love their poetry

It's just across from the place that says prose only

-TMBG

Posted by: SMACK | September 21, 2007 6:42 PM | Report abuse

http://www.postgameheroes.com/?p=887
More Dillweed, nice picture of The Receiver making an insane catch (historical pic).

Posted by: Stumped | September 21, 2007 6:50 PM | Report abuse

Kiwanuka said it would take about five games for him to fully understand the responsibilities of a linebacker. Steve Spagnuolo, the Giants' defensive coordinator, said on Thursday that moving Kiwanuka back to defensive end was still an option.

Kiwanuka has been such a liability in passing coverage that he has often been banished to the sideline on third downs.

"There's just so many more things you have to learn," said Kiwanuka, who never played linebacker until this season. "So, naturally, I don't think that anyone who switches from defensive end to linebacker is going to be as comfortable in pass as they are in run."

Has Cooley read this?

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/21/sports/football/21giants.html?_r=1&ref=football&oref=slogin

Posted by: mugamack | September 21, 2007 6:50 PM | Report abuse

This game should be a good test on where the skins are as a team. On paper they should win. However, the pessimist in me thinks this looks like a letdown game. They're 2-0 and finally getting some positive national recognition... I'm still haunted by that 36-0 pasting they got in the Meadowlands awhile back. Man I hope I'm wrong.

Posted by: skinswest | September 21, 2007 6:54 PM | Report abuse

I haven't watched/listened to any of the Skins press conferences this week. Has anyone explained why Springs was replaced by Torrence in the 4th quarter on Monday?

Posted by: mugamack | September 21, 2007 6:54 PM | Report abuse

skinswest,
I was at that pasting they got at the medowlands. Front row 50 yard line behind the giants bench. Talking smack to shockey until they started killing us.
It's still very fresh in my mind too.
Giants love to get back on track against us... makes me nervous.

Posted by: COskins | September 21, 2007 6:57 PM | Report abuse

I too am nervous, but it's a good feeling.

None of us are sure right now if we're watching a good team, or a lucky team. But their our team, and we're paying attention now, before the bandwagon revs up.

But Cooley on a converted DE sure does sound good.

Posted by: mugamack | September 21, 2007 7:09 PM | Report abuse

I have to agree. This, in theory, is a must win game. The Giants are Win-starved and desperate and that is dangerous in a divisional match-up.

We're at home and they're a team we should beat. These are the games good teams don't lose.

A Win here and we're 3-0 going into the bye week with an extra week to prepare for a home game against Detroit.

Posted by: Mike C | September 21, 2007 7:11 PM | Report abuse

I was glad to see JLC inferring in his live chat that the mood at Redskins Park is a cautious one. They know they still have their work cut out for them.

Posted by: redskirt | September 21, 2007 7:13 PM | Report abuse

I haven't watched/listened to any of the Skins press conferences this week. Has anyone explained why Springs was replaced by Torrence in the 4th quarter on Monday?

Posted by: mugamack | September 21, 2007 06:54 PM

Springs was cramping up in the second half.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2007 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Coach Gibbs should hold a banana eating contest. They won't get muscle cramps after that.

Posted by: redskirt | September 21, 2007 7:17 PM | Report abuse

Oh Cindy,

If we are going to crush it this weekend and achieve the Boren Ultimatum, we need a fresh start this evening. How about a new thread NOW?

Posted by: TM | September 21, 2007 7:18 PM | Report abuse

I heard the sound when mark reipn thre the ball

Posted by: Jason | September 21, 2007 7:19 PM | Report abuse

rieypn

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2007 7:20 PM | Report abuse

Mark Rypien

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2007 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the Springs info. Good to hear it wasn't Grilliams being Grilliams.

The Redskins SHOULD have a chip on their shoulder, right? The Giants punked them twice last year. The Giants held them to a field goal in game 5 last year, a week after the Redskins won the thrilling Jacksonville OT game and seemed like they could go on a roll. And then the Giants rolled over the Skins to close out the season.

Most of the 2006 core guys are still around. They SHOULD be motivated. The Sellers comments give me hope.

Posted by: mugamack | September 21, 2007 7:23 PM | Report abuse

Coach Gibbs should hold a banana eating contest. They won't get muscle cramps after that.

Posted by: redskirt | September 21, 2007 07:17 PM

I don't think you ever want to walk into a room full of dudes and suggest a banana eating contest.

Posted by: mugamack | September 21, 2007 7:26 PM | Report abuse

Yes, I agree. Mark Rypien had that same deep throwing ability (as did Doug Williams for the short time he was with the Redskins) as some of the others previously mentioned. Rypien was much like JCam - threw a beautiful long pass (occasionally beyond the reach of his receivers, also) but sometimes struggled with the medium and short passes. He improved with time and experience. JCam should improve similarly.

Posted by: TM | September 21, 2007 7:27 PM | Report abuse

1st documented victim of Area 51?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3030597

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2007 7:34 PM | Report abuse

where is POOP?

Posted by: mexican water | September 21, 2007 7:34 PM | Report abuse

"Wide receiver Plaxico Burress, who has been nursing a sprained right ankle, did not practice on Thursday. "I probably could've went today, but I'll definitely go tomorrow," said Burress, who added that he would play against the Redskins."

Also from mugamack's http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/21/sports/football/21giants.html?_r=1&ref=football&oref=slogin

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 21, 2007 7:34 PM | Report abuse

In the punch bowl?

Posted by: MV Dame | September 21, 2007 7:37 PM | Report abuse

We're past 98,600. You know, if anyone cares...

Posted by: MV Dame | September 21, 2007 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: mugamack | September 21, 2007 7:42 PM | Report abuse

we care.
We'll be gosh darn ecstatic when we've done it.

Posted by: Stumped | September 21, 2007 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Like I said in preseason, I'll take JC over McNair/Boller any day......good luck Ravens fans!!!! Looking forward to the Colts dumping on B-more yet again!!!

Posted by: Ravens Still Stink | September 21, 2007 7:45 PM | Report abuse

Its a tall order though, 1,400 to go.

Posted by: Stumped | September 21, 2007 7:45 PM | Report abuse

Sean Taylor vs. Godzilla in a game of badminton. Discuss.

Posted by: etrod | September 21, 2007 7:52 PM | Report abuse

This blog needs a sugar fix.

Posted by: Stumped | September 21, 2007 7:52 PM | Report abuse

I'm convinced Plaxico is fine, and just hates practice.

Posted by: mugamack | September 21, 2007 7:53 PM | Report abuse

MV Dame,

What's this about you taking a blogbattical or something? After the Ultimatum? I think we will all have postpartum depression after it happens.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 21, 2007 7:54 PM | Report abuse

etrod, it depends if Sean has the hair fro'd out - if so, I think he might be able to buffer enough of Zilla's fire breath to allow him to get in his grill and wreak some havoc. Besides, you can't kill the Grim Reaper - he's already dead, no? 21 by a nose.

p.s. glad to see my haiku suggestion went over like a Led Zeppelin

HAIL

Posted by: LMG | September 21, 2007 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Mugamack, nice catch - I did use an extra syllable. "Hey, I can't see too good - is that Bill Shakespeare??!"

Posted by: LMG | September 21, 2007 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Spent many a night stumbling from the Crab as well as the Malt shop. My dad used to play softball for them back in the 70's. He also played for the Rabbit's foot and the Godfather. Anybody remember those joints?

Posted by: cosmofla | September 21, 2007 8:06 PM | Report abuse

Gaithersburg Skin, you need to post a whole lot more.
Stumped, you headed to the OD on Sunday afternoon?

Posted by: RedskinWillie | September 21, 2007 8:07 PM | Report abuse

RedskinWillie,
Family permitting, I'll be there.

Posted by: Stumped | September 21, 2007 8:20 PM | Report abuse

Reptile shish-kabob using the badminton racket as the kabob.

ST: "Taste's like chicken."

Posted by: Stumped | September 21, 2007 8:23 PM | Report abuse

This is a MUST win for the REDSKINS. If we want to be a playoff team, we must win this game.
We all need to do our part as usual. Continue to think positive thoughts about our team. If we all focus on sending the Redskins positive vibes before and during the game, we will win.

Posted by: 70 Chip | September 21, 2007 8:42 PM | Report abuse

ain't much goin on here, back to porn..........

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2007 8:57 PM | Report abuse

you know why I love this blog? I can post a question about Sean Taylor and Godzilla playing badminton and get concise, thoughtful responses.

HAIL.

By the way, It was a trick question. Badminton is for pansies. ST and Godzilla would dig right past it in the backyard game set and start chucking the lawn darts at each other.

Posted by: etrod | September 21, 2007 9:06 PM | Report abuse

3 Things To Watch
by Gary Horton
Which teams are contenders and which are pretenders after two weeks? Horton breaks them down.

* Redskins: This is an underrated team and after years of underachieving, the Redskins are finally playing Joe Gibbs football -- a hard-nosed running game combined with an aggressive defense featuring a blitz-heavy package.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/notebook?page=sundaycountdown07&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab1pos1

Posted by: Stumptown Chris | September 21, 2007 9:16 PM | Report abuse

SC, it ain't no blogbattical, it's a full blown retirement.

What that means? Like I said, I don't know. But if Sugar Ray Leonard can do it, so can MV...

Posted by: MV Dame | September 21, 2007 9:28 PM | Report abuse

I guess I take issue with those who say McNabb has a point in his comments. I tend to think he's always been a prima donna. He's been good in his time, but not a Hall-Of-Famer. Due in part to a real lack of supporting cast on offense over the years (Brian Westbrook excepted; that guy's just a stud), and partly due to McNabb himself. Whe it really comes down to it; Donovan will always have an excuse for why he didn't have a stellar game. He'll always say in a non-convincing tone that it's his job to make that throw, or to move the team down the field, but you can always tell he really doesn't mean it.

Who gives a rip about color? He is a good quarterback who could be marvelous some games, but not week in and week out.

I think Donovan's comments on HBO are just one more excuse he's willing to use to distract from his poor performance before his injury last year. "It's not my fault; it's harder being a black quarterback."

I think it's hard being a quarterback period. And I bet it's doubly hard to be a quarterback in Philly. I mean they boo Santa Claus! But you know what, he's paid pretty well to take that pressure. And if he thinks it's tough on him, tell him to contact Rex Grossman.......

Posted by: Montana'Skins Fan | September 21, 2007 9:29 PM | Report abuse

etrod, I like, um... *whispering* ...badminton.

Posted by: MV Dame | September 21, 2007 9:29 PM | Report abuse

I'm supposed to be PMGO (packing my guts out) cause my boat leaves at the a**crack of dawn tomorrow. Earlier, in fact. Yet, here I am... blogging my life away.

Posted by: MV Dame | September 21, 2007 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Did I tell everyone that as of 7:00 pm this evening, I am now once again "between jobs"? I can barely contain my glee...

Posted by: MV Dame | September 21, 2007 9:34 PM | Report abuse

MV -- too late to go to sleep now, that gives you 4 more hours to blog, 20 minutes to pack, and another 10 minutes to secure internet access at the terminal.

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 21, 2007 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and I get to have my first Oreo Pizza tomorrow afternoon. Some true booger sugar for this hamster in withdrawal...

Posted by: MV Dame | September 21, 2007 9:36 PM | Report abuse

I'm laptop free, cloadie. I like to leave it (my lap) free for, ahem... other things.

Posted by: MV Dame | September 21, 2007 9:38 PM | Report abuse

My biggest fear if I BMGO tonight isn't that I won't be ready for my trip in the morning, it's that I'll miss 100K while I'm in the air. What does that say about me?

Posted by: MV Dame | September 21, 2007 9:39 PM | Report abuse

that you have a keen sense of priority.

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 21, 2007 9:40 PM | Report abuse

Thanks. But I see I've left the treehouse unguarded...

Hmm.

Posted by: MV Dame | September 21, 2007 9:42 PM | Report abuse

dame in MV house
empty but for computer
catch the Monday flight

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 21, 2007 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Thanks. But I see I've left the treehouse unguarded...

Hmm.

Posted by: MV Dame | September 21, 2007 09:42 PM

LMGO!


The preceding brought to you by Redskins Insider Insider!

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 21, 2007 9:46 PM | Report abuse

F the treehouse. We must stand together on the current thread as we near the goal! Now is the time, my friends!

Who's with me? (Running out of the frat house) Aaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 9:56 PM | Report abuse

I was told that I could blog in the treehouse at at reasonable volume, from 9-11. I talk to Bill...

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 21, 2007 10:04 PM | Report abuse

Did you hear about the Mexican firefighter whose wife had twins?

They named them Jose and Hose B.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2007 10:10 PM | Report abuse

for the luv of Odin...no more jokes!!!

Posted by: Chris laRry | September 21, 2007 10:25 PM | Report abuse

When a video of Sean Taylor's hits was aired in France, the French surrendered just to be on the safe side.

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 21, 2007 10:26 PM | Report abuse

we need quick hit style posts, that still are about skinz:

fave new 07 starters?

me: Rocky Mac

Posted by: chris laRry | September 21, 2007 10:28 PM | Report abuse

"Sean Taylor getting his ass kicked" is the only search on google that will generate zero results.

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 21, 2007 10:29 PM | Report abuse

Nate,

Perhaps you overlooked the random question earlier....Has anyone ever told you that you look like a celebrity, and if so, which one?

Posted by: Tomskin | September 21, 2007 10:30 PM | Report abuse

fave over 30 vetern:

me: mike sellers

Posted by: chris laRry | September 21, 2007 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Whats the difference between a mexican and a large pizza?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2007 10:31 PM | Report abuse

Nate bears a striking resemblence to Clark Kent

Posted by: CHris larry | September 21, 2007 10:32 PM | Report abuse

Seriously, or joke?

Posted by: Tomskin | September 21, 2007 10:33 PM | Report abuse

Scotty in Star Trek often says "Ye cannae change the laws of physics." This is untrue. Sean Taylor routinely changes the laws of physics -- particularly when he occupies the same space at the same time.

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 21, 2007 10:33 PM | Report abuse

seriously...square jawed everyman look, with comic book hair...in a good way

Posted by: cHris larry | September 21, 2007 10:35 PM | Report abuse

If, by some incredible space-time paradox, Sean Taylor would ever catch a pass against himself over the middle, he'd prove what happens when an irresistable force meets an immovable object.

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 21, 2007 10:36 PM | Report abuse

fave over 30 vetern:

me: mike sellers

Posted by: chris laRry | September 21, 2007 10:30 PM


Quoted for truth...


Question, what would happen if Sellers and Taylor ever ended up on seperate teams and they collided in a game?

For the sake of our world I hope we never have to find out. My guess is it would introduce a second sun into our universe.

Of course it could just be the Maker's talking....

Posted by: Skinz | September 21, 2007 10:37 PM | Report abuse

Universe/Solar system. I think the Maker's is talking.

Posted by: Skins | September 21, 2007 10:38 PM | Report abuse

Sean Taylor has proven that time travel is indeed possible, by hitting several WRs "into the middle of next week".

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 21, 2007 10:40 PM | Report abuse

there are no words to accurately describe the level of lameness of this moronic sean taylor thing.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2007 10:43 PM | Report abuse

I know you're not supposed to wish injuries on players, especially considering you want to think your team can beat the best set of guys the opposing team can put up...but...Anyone taking any bets on which Giant gets injured in the next game?

Just sayin' cuz, in each of the past two games, someone on the other side ends up getting banged up...

(guess you could say the same for our side too...2 OL)

Posted by: Waiting Since '92 | September 21, 2007 10:43 PM | Report abuse

quiet pm shift....

Posted by: chris larry | September 21, 2007 10:43 PM | Report abuse

Sean Taylor destroyed the periodic table, because Sean Taylor only recognizes the element of surprise.

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 21, 2007 10:43 PM | Report abuse

Sean Taylor's brush with the law over re-claiming his ATVs is eerily similar to OJ Simpson's recent run-in with the law over re-claiming his sports memorabilia.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2007 10:44 PM | Report abuse

there are no words to accurately describe the level of lameness of moronic cowardly anon posts

Posted by: chRIS larry | September 21, 2007 10:45 PM | Report abuse

there are no words to accurately describe the level of lameness of this moronic sean taylor thing.

Posted by: | September 21, 2007 10:43 PM

and yet you insisted on trying?

Posted by: Skinz | September 21, 2007 10:46 PM | Report abuse

Another stupid Anon post...

Posted by: Chris laRry | September 21, 2007 10:48 PM | Report abuse

Joba is the bomb

Posted by: chRIS Larry | September 21, 2007 10:50 PM | Report abuse

I've been laid flat and low by a random wind storm that blew every single particle of dust, mold and pollen into my lungs.

I hate allergies! But 20 hours of sleep does work miracles.

Hey anything I need to be caught up on in march to the Boren?

Posted by: sfskin | September 21, 2007 10:51 PM | Report abuse

This is from Kissing Suzy Kolber blog. It's supposed to be OJ's inbox in case Anon thought he'd seem profound if he copied it.

Yo OJ,

Just 'cause some sjkholes stole your shi* doesn't mean you can pull out a piece...unless you're in Florida.

Meastly Yours,
Sean Taylor


---------------------------------------------------------------------


Dear Juice,

I want you to SJK me in an uncomfortable place.

Longing Gaping for you,
Kim Kardashian

P.S. I'm not talking about a conjugal trailer...

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Dear Mr. Simpson,

Stay the SJK away from my daughter.

Sincerely,
Robert Kardashian

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Dear OJ,

+1

Your pal,
Robert Blake

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Dear SJKhole,

All your memorabilia are belong to us.

Signed,
The Goldmans

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Dear OJ,

Thanks a million!

Sincerely,
Nancy Grace, Dan Abrams, Keith Olbermann, Glen Beck, Anderson Cooper, Jay Leno, Lorne Michaels, Sean Hannity, Shephard Smith, Mark Fuhrman, and every single talk radio host in America

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2007 10:51 PM | Report abuse

Watched the tape of mnf, and had a couple of thoughts...

a) There is still a lot of room for improvement.
--JC played just well enough to win as there were a few missed opportunities. His athletic ability and intellegence shows already, and I can't wait to see how he develops in the burgundy and gold.

--Couple of key drops, that could have cost us. Cooley on the first drive, and Santana on a tough high ball over the middle on 3rd down.
--O-line was impressive, especially considering the injury to RT. Samuels looks like a pro-bowler(again) and the new right side held their own. Philly was lookin run all game, and the dbags were able to make it happen when it counted.
--Rocky is a stud on d. Great tackler in the open field. LL has so much raw athletic ability. Stone hands played well in coverage and was strong coming up in run support. The Reaper should be feared.

2. I don't think philly gave us the game, but let's just say they had their chances and didn't take advantage. McNabb has never been an extremely accurate passer, and now can't use his legs to get him out of trouble, like he has in the past.

iii It's a miracle!! A good kicking game!! Swishy is solid, and the snowman has turned the field position around well.

Hail to the Redskins!


Posted by: nah | September 21, 2007 10:52 PM | Report abuse

sfskin...sorry about the sick..although 20 hours of sleep sounds amazing...

we started a RI Blog wiki to house blog lore, have u seen it?

http://redskinsinsiders.wetpaint.com/

Posted by: CHris larry | September 21, 2007 10:53 PM | Report abuse

F OJ

F OJ mania

F OJ talk on RI

Posted by: cHris larry | September 21, 2007 10:56 PM | Report abuse

Kiss my profundity, other anon.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2007 10:57 PM | Report abuse

I dunno the Robert Blake one was gold Jerry gold!

Posted by: Skinz | September 21, 2007 10:57 PM | Report abuse

i wish i had tape of the game....since this sunday is on local tv i will dvr it...always jealous of you hamsters who multiple views

Posted by: chris larry | September 21, 2007 10:58 PM | Report abuse

sean taylor can divide 12 by 5 with no remainder.

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 21, 2007 11:01 PM | Report abuse

Could you put the Sean Taylorisms on remainders for the rest of the evening?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2007 11:02 PM | Report abuse

tittytwister

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2007 11:03 PM | Report abuse

Tomskin, were you serious? Really? If so, you go first.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 11:06 PM | Report abuse

thank you, other anon. only two things continually make sean taylorisms, steers and queers, and i sure don't see any steers

Posted by: other anon | September 21, 2007 11:08 PM | Report abuse

Actually chris Larry is right on, I've heard the Clark Kent thing since I got glasses in high school.

But funny thing, I've never been without my glasses and had anyone tell me I looked like Superman.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 11:08 PM | Report abuse

Jack and Jill came down the hill, followed closely by Sean Taylor with the fumble

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 21, 2007 11:09 PM | Report abuse

I LOVE THE RI WIKI! LOVE! LOVE! LOVE!

Um are there wiki rules o'the road in terms of me narcissitically plugging myself in to lists?

Posted by: sfskin | September 21, 2007 11:10 PM | Report abuse

Yes, was serious, just puttin faces to personas, didn't think anyone else would play along.

Jennifer Aniston

Posted by: Tomskin | September 21, 2007 11:11 PM | Report abuse

sfskin, your celebrity look-alike?

Posted by: Tomskin | September 21, 2007 11:13 PM | Report abuse

OK...I'll bite on my own question...I think Derrick Ward gets crushed as he goes up for a catch in the flat...

Posted by: Waiting Since '92 | September 21, 2007 11:14 PM | Report abuse

The biggest mistake you can make around the office is to ask Sean Taylor to borrow the three-hole punch.

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 21, 2007 11:15 PM | Report abuse

Hey, anon 10:43, good news!

I found the words!

They're in this cool book called the dictionary!

Check it out--it'll help you!


(Whereas I need the big book of punctuation to broaden my sentence termination repertoire!!)

Whooppeeee!!!

Posted by: farstriker | September 21, 2007 11:15 PM | Report abuse

Let's get rolling... favorite over 30 veteran on the roster who is not named Mike Selluhs (Sonny pronunciation)... since Joe Salave'a is no longer on the team, I will go with Pete Kendall. Closest to my birthday without going over. Where would we be without him? In a world of hurt, that's where.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 11:16 PM | Report abuse

sfskin, hope you get better soon 'cause we need you up here!

The first rule of the wiki is GET BACK TO FREAKIN' RI so we can push past the Ultimatum.

The second rule of the wiki is... it's a wiki, and you're among friends, so go nuts.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 11:17 PM | Report abuse

Cload,

How Monty Python-esque is THAT?

For the love of God, shut up already. You are ruining your reputation.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2007 11:17 PM | Report abuse

I'm working on a pictchah.

But can I personally put up my own bio or add myself to the citizens of Mayberry? ME ME ME!!! : )

Posted by: sfskin | September 21, 2007 11:17 PM | Report abuse

Tomskin, some of us threw up pix on the wiki on our profiles... I am one of those. It's really me.

Trivia! chris Larry and I are both currently sporting beards! As of Monday when I saw him for the MNF game.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 11:19 PM | Report abuse

My favorite veteran over 30 - LFB - For the leadership presence on defense...they'll keep us in the game while the offense continues to improve...

Posted by: Waiting Since '92 | September 21, 2007 11:20 PM | Report abuse

"Yes I quite agree I mean what's the point of being treated like sheep. What's the pointof going abroad if you're just another tourist carted around in buses surrounded by sweaty mindless oafs from Kettering and Coventry in their cloth caps and their cardigans and their transistor radios and their Sunday Mirrors, complaining about the tea - "Oh they don't make it properly here, do they, not like at home" - and stopping at Majorcan bodegas selling fish and chips and Watney's Red Barrel and calamares and two veg and sitting in their cotton frocks squirting Timothy White's suncream all over their puffy raw swollen purulent flesh 'cos they 'overdid it on the first day.' "

Bounder: (agreeing patiently) Yes absolutely, yes I quite agree...

Posted by: farstriker | September 21, 2007 11:20 PM | Report abuse

sfskin, I took the liberty of not only wiki'ing about myself but also wiki'ing about some others, where I felt I knew enough to do so.

I wrote chris Larry and MV Dame's bios, or at least a version of the bios that were up earlier this afternoon.

And then I got my behind back here to the blog to get commentin'! Let's focus!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 11:21 PM | Report abuse

"And being herded into endless Hotel Miramars and Bellvueses and Continentales with their modern international luxury roomettes and draught Red Barrel and swimming pools full of fat German businessmen pretending they're acrobats forming pyramids and frightening the children and barging into queues and if you're not at your table spot on seven you miss the bowl of Campbell's Cream of Mushroom soup, the first item on the menu of International Cuisine, and every Thursday night the hotel has a bloody cabaret in the bar, featuring a tiny emaciated dago with nine-inch hips and some bloated fat tart with her hair brylcreemed down and a big arse presenting Flamenco for Foreigners."

Bounder: (beggining to get fed up) Yes, yes now......

Posted by: farstriker | September 21, 2007 11:22 PM | Report abuse

sfskin.....go nutzon wiki...and to satify nate/boren...post links to new additions up here..

Posted by: chRIS larry | September 21, 2007 11:22 PM | Report abuse

"And then some adenoidal typists from Birmingham with flabby white legs and diarrhoea trying to pick up hairy bandy-legged wop waiters called Manuel and once a week there's an excursion to the local Roman Remains to buy cherryade and melted ice cream and bleeding Watney's Red Barrel and one evening you visit the so called typical restaurant with local colour and atmosphere and you sit next to a party from Rhyl who keep singing "Torremolinos, torremolinos" and complaining about the food - "It's so greasy isn't it?" - and you get cornered by some drunken greengrocer from Luton with an Instamatic camera and Dr. Scholl sandals and last Tuesday's Daily Express and he drones on and on about how Mr. Smith should be running this country and how many languages Enoch Pow ell can speak and then he throws up over the Cuba Libres."

Bounder: Will you be quiet please?

Posted by: farstriker | September 21, 2007 11:23 PM | Report abuse

Hold up, Tomskin, 'Jennifer Aniston'?

Is this an MV Dame situation, where your blog moniker seems to indicate the gender you're not? Tom is usually a boy name, is what I'm sayin'.

Just making conversation to get things moving up here, is all.

And welcome!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 11:23 PM | Report abuse

my celeb look alike:

jack black

Posted by: Chris laRry | September 21, 2007 11:23 PM | Report abuse

"And sending tinted postcards of places they don't realise they haven't even visited to "All at number 22, weather wonderful, our room is marked with an 'X'."

Bounder: Shut up

Posted by: farstriker | September 21, 2007 11:25 PM | Report abuse

Actually cL, your timing with the wiki launch couldn't be better. It does feel like we're going to have a biiiiig letdown up here after finally hitting the Ultimatum (sometime tomorrow afternoon).

And the wiki is so well put together thanks to you that with all the energy up here and the joie de blog and all that camaraderie stuff, it will only get better and better.

What I like best of all is that it doesn't really seem to facilitate direct conversation, which makes me think even heavy wiki'ites will stay tuned to RI.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 11:26 PM | Report abuse

"Food very greasy but we've found a charming little local place hidden away in the back streets."

Bounder: Shut up!

"Where they serve Watney's Red Barrel and cheese and onion......."

Bounder: Shut up your bloody gob....

Posted by: farstriker | September 21, 2007 11:26 PM | Report abuse

Whew.

I'll be glad when this ultimatum thing is over.

Posted by: farstriker | September 21, 2007 11:28 PM | Report abuse

London School of Economics is a great call, Waiting Since '92. He has been incredible so far.

I was so wrong about that signing, as incredulous as I was at the time that we didn't focus our considerable front office brain power on signing a damn D lineman...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 11:29 PM | Report abuse

Maybe it's Tomskin like Tomboy. Anyone see that movie, circa '85?

Posted by: MV Dame | September 21, 2007 11:30 PM | Report abuse

Nate: yeah the wiki is more a storehouse of lore and defacto FAQ for blog...not really a convo place like the blog here...to me its a real chocolate/peanut butter sitch.....

Posted by: chRIS Larry | September 21, 2007 11:30 PM | Report abuse

Go ahead, farstriker!

Go ahead!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 11:30 PM | Report abuse

Dare I ask for a post count?

Posted by: sfskin | September 21, 2007 11:31 PM | Report abuse

cL, it's so perfect, man. Tipping my hat to you.

Also tipping the last swig of New Grist sorghum and rice beer, which -- I have decided after getting over the novelty factor -- tastes awful. Thanks, Lakefront Brewery. Thanks for that. The next bottle will be better. Because it will be something else.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 11:33 PM | Report abuse

Hey, how can Ladell Betts not have a wiki nickname?

Come on now!

Posted by: farstriker | September 21, 2007 11:33 PM | Report abuse

We're somewhere around 98,700, sf. But I wouldn't really know cause I'm supposed to be packing for my trip tomorrow morning...

Posted by: MV Dame | September 21, 2007 11:33 PM | Report abuse

Guessing we're closing in on 98,700. Trust me, I want to get as many freakin' comments in tonight as possible, that tomorrow we all may rest.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 11:34 PM | Report abuse

Favorite new guy not named Landry, anyone?

Posted by: Waiting Since '92 | September 21, 2007 11:35 PM | Report abuse

I always call him "Bettsy," because I have a friend with the surname Betz (no relation) who I always refer to as "Betzy."

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 11:35 PM | Report abuse

MV Dame, I take heart that you're still up here when you have a ton of stuff to do before your ferry boat leaves MV in a few hours... dude, you rock.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 11:37 PM | Report abuse

Nate Dogg, in one of your "previous" pictures, I always thought you looked like Wolverine. You had the whole hair and the chops thing going on.

Oh, and I don't mean Brian Dawkins...

Posted by: MV Dame | September 21, 2007 11:39 PM | Report abuse

Waiting Since '92, it says a lot for our heavily (and rightly) maligned front office that it took me a minute to think up an answer to your best new addition question.

I'm sticking with my previous answer: Pete Kendall. We'd be in a world of hurt without that dude.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 11:39 PM | Report abuse

Me and my posse just yell: "LAAA-Dell"

How bout:

switch runner

You Better You Better You Betts

Posted by: CHris larry | September 21, 2007 11:39 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, man. I think I'm going to be regretting it come sunrise...

Posted by: MV Dame | September 21, 2007 11:40 PM | Report abuse

Hold up, I don't want anybody to think there is anything heroic about me with this Clark Kent and Wolverine stuff.

I'm just a simple man trying to wring as many comments out of myself as possible over the next few hours. As I ever was...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 11:40 PM | Report abuse

Actually, if I'm not halfway to America come sunrise, then I missed the boat...

Posted by: MV Dame | September 21, 2007 11:41 PM | Report abuse

farstriker, you cannot come in here with that and not provide a suggestion! Where are you, buddy? Whaddya got for Betts?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 11:41 PM | Report abuse

I've never been out there, Dame. Is it just like the ferry boat scenes in "Splash"?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 11:42 PM | Report abuse

Dame, I for one am really glad you haven't been tracking comment count by name. I would probably be really ashamed of myself if I saw how many I've posted up here. Well, maybe...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 11:43 PM | Report abuse

Out here, Daryl Hannah is an ugly mermaid...

Posted by: MV Dame | September 21, 2007 11:44 PM | Report abuse

"Tomboy" was all right, but it was no "Just One of the Guys."

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 11:44 PM | Report abuse

Greasy Spoon

Midnight Express

Semi

LaBomb

Sloppy Seconds

Heartbreaker (cuz of the fumblitis)

Bullitt

Quiet Man

LaDellius Bettslinson

Link

The Cop (for "Change of Pace")

Number 2

Posted by: farstriker | September 21, 2007 11:46 PM | Report abuse

Nate...agree with you about Kendall...Thank God we picked him up...I've been happily surprised about the resilience of our O-line thus far...Wade and Fabini held pretty tight last week (obviously with exception to Fab's false starts pens)...hopefully the FO was right in picking up Demulling...

Posted by: Waiting Since '92 | September 21, 2007 11:46 PM | Report abuse

Hmm. I didn't know that feature had the potential to shame people. I'll get right on it. And I'll use it completely and solely at my own discretion for personal and devious reasons.

Uhh, right after I finish packing...

Posted by: MV Dame | September 21, 2007 11:47 PM | Report abuse

and Sloppy Seconds it is!!!

brilliant

Posted by: cHris larry | September 21, 2007 11:48 PM | Report abuse

I'll DeMur on DeMulling until we see the dude play... not that I'm in any hurry to see him in the game, because that will probably mean something else has gone wrong (injury (knock wood) or poor job by Fabuloso).

And you know Fabini was doing exactly what Bugel told him and only him to do: creating more space for Cooley to run that route!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 11:49 PM | Report abuse

Sloppy Seconds is awesome, 'striker! Great work!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 11:50 PM | Report abuse

MV - are you leaving the island and heading for our beloved swamp?

I completely agree Nate is absolutely rockin the Wolverine.

I've been told I sorta look like Carrie Ann Moss aka Trinity. I think at best I'm a poor woman's version cause she is way hotter than me. So maybe I'm a cross between Winona Ryder and Trinity maybe. . . ugh I hate trying to figure out what I look like.

Posted by: sfskin | September 21, 2007 11:51 PM | Report abuse

MV Dame, I've been wondering about this "packing."

It's a boat.

Ergo:

1. Beer
2. Life preserver
3. Sun tan lotion for the hottie
4. Beer
5. Spare swim trunks
6. Beer

That's about 90 seconds in my world. Plus a stop for more beer.

Posted by: farstriker | September 21, 2007 11:51 PM | Report abuse

methinks Bettsy sounds fine for soccer or hockey players...

what about Dozer?...actually that might work for Sellers...

Posted by: Waiting Since '92 | September 21, 2007 11:51 PM | Report abuse

mark my words.......Fabini is one of the suprise stories of the year!

Posted by: chris larry | September 21, 2007 11:51 PM | Report abuse

I confess I haven't gone back to read any posts. Are we discussing the best pick ups in terms of vets over 30?

Posted by: sfskin | September 21, 2007 11:52 PM | Report abuse

megskin sighting!
Posted by: chRIS Larry | September 21, 2007 06:14 PM

No, if that had really been me it would have been something about LaRon Landry and his bone splintering, spleen gouging, testicle dislodging hit from last weeks game and the hope that he does the same to BBM's pissant, diaper wearing, little sham of a QB brother this coming Sunday.

Or perhaps something about the benefits of using the Cover-3 over the Tampa-2, or maybe something about my desire to see a flurry of blitzes that disgorges blood and entrails that forever stains the grassy field of FedBlex - it definitely wouldn't be some asinine, cock-huddled, offal-ridden reportage about Tony Romo. Honestly, people.

Now, having said that, I'll probably wait until everyone's done with this whole push for the post count thingy and we're back to actually discussing and arguing about football.

Posted by: Megskin | September 21, 2007 11:52 PM | Report abuse

See I think that Nate looks more like Kevin Dillon, who plays "Drama" on the HBO show Entourage.

Here's a pic:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Entourage_ep316.jpg

Posted by: Stumptown Chris | September 21, 2007 11:53 PM | Report abuse

Topic: last concert or other live performance you saw that you totally loved?


Slim Cessna's Auto Club, @ Dante's, Portland

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 11:54 PM | Report abuse

mv dame's packing list:
1 fedora, black
1 copy, "Redskins Insider", current
1 pair sunglasses
1 prophylactic, unused
1 prophylactic, used

total packing time: 3 minutes

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 21, 2007 11:55 PM | Report abuse

megskin, you seen the wiki:

http://redskinsinsiders.wetpaint.com/

Also skinz ?'s:

Fave new 07 starter

&

Fave over 30 vet

Posted by: chris laRry | September 21, 2007 11:56 PM | Report abuse

Ugh, Chris, I see where you're coming from, but I hate Kevin Dillon! That's like being compared to Beau Bridges, only even less cool. I think I look a little bit more like his bro.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 11:56 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and another Fabini nickname.

The Fabini

It works great. Check it out:

===================================

ORIGINAL POST

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mark my words.......Fabini is one of the suprise stories of the year!

Posted by: chris larry | September 21, 2007 11:51 PM

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IMPROVED POST

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mark my words....... The Fabini is one of the suprise stories of the year!

Posted by: chris larry | September 21, 2007 11:51 PM

Posted by: farstriker | September 21, 2007 11:57 PM | Report abuse

Medeski, Martin & Wood, plus John Scofield @ Roseland Theater, Portland

Posted by: Stumptown Chris | September 21, 2007 11:57 PM | Report abuse

Megskin, I promise you'll be seeing a lot less of me and my trademark jibba jabba up here after we hit 100k. A lot less.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 11:58 PM | Report abuse

c'mon Nate say it aint so!...just more FB related stuff...

Posted by: chRIS larry | September 21, 2007 11:59 PM | Report abuse

Maybe "The Great Fabini?"

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 21, 2007 11:59 PM | Report abuse

Ha! I had a feeling that a K. Dillon comparison would get a rise out of you, Nate.

Thanks for being a good sport...and I agree he's obnoxious.

Posted by: Stumptown Chris | September 21, 2007 11:59 PM | Report abuse

If that's what it takes to get Megskin back in the mix, count me in, man. Things haven't been the same since our Queen Bee left us.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 12:00 AM | Report abuse

Kevin Dillon rulz on Entourage....take it in stride!

The Great Fabini....classic

Posted by: Chris laRry | September 22, 2007 12:00 AM | Report abuse

Though if it makes you feel better as a youngin' I looked *exactly* like Ralphie from "A Christmas Story".

Actually, I think my parents dressed me in the part on purpose: big glasses, a mop of blonde hair...but, I'm not bitter.

Posted by: Stumptown Chris | September 22, 2007 12:00 AM | Report abuse

farstriker, it's the boat to the bus to the plane to -- yes, sf -- our beloved swamp. And since it's for the duration, I gotta pack all my swamp gear...

cload, that's just my carry-on...

Posted by: MV Dame | September 22, 2007 12:02 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, Stumptown, I gotcha, man. I'm just terrible at that celebrity lookalike thing.

Though I did tumble to the realization that one of my coworkers, a Dutch woman, is a dead ringer for Riff Raff the handyman from "Rocky Horror."

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 12:02 AM | Report abuse

I don't know about anyone else but I've got my meme good to go if I tick anyone off here.

Posted by: farstriker | September 22, 2007 12:02 AM | Report abuse

megskin, you seen the wiki:

Yes, quite nice. Glad to see Haikuman's Vinny and Dannyboi's negotiation-style post in there -- that was one of the best of last year. It deserves to be preserved for eternity, or at least until we're rid of Snyder.

Posted by: Megskin | September 22, 2007 12:03 AM | Report abuse

DON'T TASE ME BRO!!!!!

Posted by: farstriker | September 22, 2007 12:04 AM | Report abuse

Ooh, ooh, the reason I have concerts on the brain -- cL's "FB" note reminded me -- is that Black Francis (AKA Frank Black or FB) is kicking off his very brief fall tour with two nights right here in Portland, at a small and awesome venue, less than two weeks hence!

Let me just say that he is my #1 all time musician, I'll be going to both shows, and I am freakin' out of my mind with excitement.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 12:04 AM | Report abuse

Talking about lookalikes, I was walking around downtown earlier today and literally ran into a man who looked exactly like Jerry Glanville: stout, dressed in black, black sunglasses.

Then I realized that it was actually the founder of the "House of Pain", himself.

Wound up having a great five minute conversation, where we discussed the finer points of PSU's lack of an offense and what he liked about coaching Warren Moon as an Oiler.

Cool dude.

Posted by: Stumptown Chris | September 22, 2007 12:05 AM | Report abuse

More than a couple very attractive lady friends have told me that I look like Richard Gere. I really don't, though. It's just that my eyes get all squinty when I smile, and I smile a lot, and I've got the whole salt and pepper thing going, too...

Posted by: MV Dame | September 22, 2007 12:06 AM | Report abuse

Dang, Chris, you saw Glanville! That is so cool.

I would say he has now surpassed Greg "Oh No" Oden as best new sports figure in Portland.

Is he coming to the On Deck to watch the Skins with us on Sunday?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 12:07 AM | Report abuse

Okay I added a pic and a super lame bio for myself at the wiki.

Fav starter - hands down L2 the final play in Philly alone made it so.

Fav over 30 - The Tower of Power - London Fletch. His direction of the d is awesome to behold.

Posted by: sfskin | September 22, 2007 12:07 AM | Report abuse

Queen Bee, as soon as we hit 100K I will never count again. And all my posts will be Skins-oriented.

I swear it will be done.

Posted by: MV Dame | September 22, 2007 12:08 AM | Report abuse

Ha! I like your nickname for Oden. Almost as good as the headline on the Tribune's issue last Friday: "O Damn!"

No, Glanville is a cool dude, definitely. In fact, he lives in the same building as a buddy of mine and you often see him and his wife walking their pug around the Pearl District.

I wouldn't be surprised if we see him at On Deck sometime after PSU's season is over...

Posted by: Stumptown Chris | September 22, 2007 12:09 AM | Report abuse

Dame, that's taking it a little too far. I said a lot less, not zero jibba jabba.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 12:11 AM | Report abuse

Ok then, lets get a topic rolling: Best racial joke.....

Posted by: Seymore | September 22, 2007 12:11 AM | Report abuse

Still voting for "DC Madam" as your new location-specific, gender-confusing nickname.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 12:12 AM | Report abuse

I confess that as I get older the live music is less appealing in that if I am going to spend the $ and the time it's gotta be for someone I love.

That being said I saw U2 6 times on their last N.American tour and as usual they rocked every time.

I am seriously sad cause I forgot to try and get tix for the Boss when he comes through Oakland in October.
*sigh*

That all being said I can't compete in live shows stuff cause I just don't go near enough.

Posted by: sfskin | September 22, 2007 12:13 AM | Report abuse

Funny, Seymore, funny.

Ugh it's gonna be a long weekend getting to the late game Sunday afternoon.

Any big plans? Anyone?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 12:13 AM | Report abuse

Alright, I added my measly daily contribution on our march towards 100K. Now I'm headed out for the first night of my buddy's Bachelor Party weekend.

(I can't wait to see what type of shape I'm in when the game rolls around on Sunday following two nights of carousing with buddies from high school and college, many that I haven't seen in years.)

Have a good night, everyone!

Hail!

Posted by: Stumptown Chris | September 22, 2007 12:15 AM | Report abuse

Have we already had the who we think is still gonna be undefeated after the weekend discussion?
Trying to fubol related to keep the Queen Bee around.

Posted by: sfskin | September 22, 2007 12:16 AM | Report abuse

I cant wait till sunday....

BUT

The Hecklers live in Brooklyn Saturday Night!!!!!

Posted by: chris laRry | September 22, 2007 12:16 AM | Report abuse

Not a competition, sfskin, I'm honestly interested if anyone's seen a great show recently. I do love the live music.

I stopped going to big venue shows like festivals/stadium shows because it's just too much hassle. That's a young man's game. Fortunately everybody I really want to see seems to play reasonably sized venues where I can get as close as I want without having to wade through a thousand frat boys.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 12:16 AM | Report abuse

Bummed about missing the Hecklers, cL. I was this close! Just missed ya by a few days! Dadblameit!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 12:17 AM | Report abuse

Hmmm well I've got a soccah game tomorrow.

And I have really super tests to grade.

Don't be jealous of my life guys. No one likes a hater.

Posted by: sfskin | September 22, 2007 12:17 AM | Report abuse

Perhaps, Nate. Perhaps. On both issues.

Big plans? Yeah, I'm going to pack.

Like right now.

I'm out.

Posted by: MV Dame | September 22, 2007 12:17 AM | Report abuse

Ok then, lets get a topic rolling: Best racial joke.....


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Have you lost your mind? I mean, how is it that you can disrespect a man's ethnicity when you know we've influenced nearly every facet of white America... from our music to our style of dress. Not to mention your basic imitation of our sense of cool; walk, talk, dress, mannerisms... we enrich your very existence, all the while contributing to the gross national product through our achievements in corporate America. It's these conceits that comfort me when I am faced with the ignorant, cowardly, bitter and bigoted, who have no talent, no guts, people like you who desecrate things they don't understand when the truth is - you should say thank-you, man, and go on about your way. But apparently you are incapable of doing that.

Racial epithets. Why does it always come down to that? Makes me sad for my daughter.

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Bonus points to first person who gets what movie that's from.

Posted by: Megskin | September 22, 2007 12:22 AM | Report abuse

Nate- The best live show I've seen in a while was the black keys. If you get the chance, you've gotta go...

Posted by: nah | September 22, 2007 12:22 AM | Report abuse

UNdefeated teams & games this weekend:


New England Cheaters (home vs. Bills)

Pittsburgh Steelers (home vs. Niners)

Houston Unimaginative Names (home vs. Clots)

Indianapolis Clots (at Texans)

Denver Donkeys (home vs. Jaguars)

Dallas Cowboys (at Chicago on MNF)

Washington Redskins (home vs. Gints)

Detroit Kittens (at Eagles)

Green Bay Favres (home vs. Chargers)

San Francisco 49ers (at Steelers)

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 12:24 AM | Report abuse

here's to tight friends & loose women

Posted by: sniksder | September 22, 2007 12:24 AM | Report abuse

Save your Sox comments for the Boston Globe. This is DC!

Posted by: Cabraboy | September 22, 2007 12:24 AM | Report abuse

Megskins:

Be Cool?

I am a big Elmore Leonard guy...

Posted by: CHris larry | September 22, 2007 12:24 AM | Report abuse

Be Cool, Megskin. Be Cool.

Posted by: MV Dame | September 22, 2007 12:24 AM | Report abuse

blue man group

Posted by: Anonymous | September 22, 2007 12:25 AM | Report abuse

nah, been meaning to catch those dudes for a while. Next tour, I hope. I do love their records.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 12:25 AM | Report abuse

Yo my wife is the Black Keys publist!!!

strangely enough I am not a big fan....

Posted by: cHris larry | September 22, 2007 12:26 AM | Report abuse

Hey Nate:

ping

Posted by: farstriker | September 22, 2007 12:27 AM | Report abuse

Megskin - Be Cool?

Posted by: sfskin | September 22, 2007 12:27 AM | Report abuse

Megskin - Be Cool?

But of course.

Posted by: Megskin | September 22, 2007 12:28 AM | Report abuse

on the flip side, WINLESS teams and their opponents this weekend. Who gets their first win?


Jets (host Fins)

Bills (at Patriots)

Fins (at Jets)

Raiders (host Browns)

Chefs (host Vikes)

Iggles (host Lions)

Jints (at Skins)

Saints (host Titans)

Falcons (host Panthers)

Rams (at Bucs)

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 12:29 AM | Report abuse

ha ha, my point.

1-0.

Posted by: farstriker | September 22, 2007 12:29 AM | Report abuse

Ooops -- so many people got it right out the gate. Will have to come up with something a wee bit harder next time.

Posted by: Megskin | September 22, 2007 12:30 AM | Report abuse

farstriker:

pong?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 12:31 AM | Report abuse

Okay, we can blogalize this.

Free for all:

Ping

Posted by: farstriker | September 22, 2007 12:31 AM | Report abuse

we need to come out strong and keep the giants O off the field or we could be in for a long day. People be in your seats for kick off. We need noise from the jump.no excuses make some noise! we've got the largest stadium lets make it the loudest. Show your real fans!

Posted by: murph | September 22, 2007 12:32 AM | Report abuse

Be Cool was a good movie, not as good as the first one, which was complete off the hook awesomeness, but pretty darn good.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 12:33 AM | Report abuse

Elmore Leonard is straight dope..Be Cool the book was amazing, as are alll his books:

My fave Leonard book movie adaption:

Out of Site

Runner up:

Jackie Brown

Posted by: chris larry | September 22, 2007 12:33 AM | Report abuse

Hear hear, murph. You tell 'em!

You'll be able to hear us cheering from Portland. Yes, we will actually be that loud.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 12:34 AM | Report abuse

Nice shot, Nate, but as you can see I returned it.

2-0 me.

Ping

Posted by: farstriker | September 22, 2007 12:34 AM | Report abuse

I'm undefeated in blog ping pong

Posted by: farstriker | September 22, 2007 12:35 AM | Report abuse

Ugh, I stink at this game, farstriker.

Taking a quick blog break, will be back up here shortly with a fresh beer and all new jibba jabba. Don't say I didn't warn you.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 12:36 AM | Report abuse

And blog poker

Posted by: farstriker | September 22, 2007 12:36 AM | Report abuse

Glancing back at today's posts I must say I'm glad I was MIA.
Although I did get a chuckle (in evil humor sort of way) out of this quote:

"We're not going to solve the race issue on this blog. Can't we just go back to talking about the Redskins."

Sidenote - why is tuna salad so delicious.

Posted by: sfskin | September 22, 2007 12:40 AM | Report abuse

600 on this thread, not bad peeps.

And A real Megskin sighting, youwsur.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 22, 2007 12:41 AM | Report abuse

sniff sniff sniff

Posted by: Anonymous | September 22, 2007 12:44 AM | Report abuse

So my predictions on 3-0ze

Indy
NE
Pitt
Skins
Denver - although this is shaky

Does AFC East even exist as a division at this point?

Posted by: sfskin | September 22, 2007 12:45 AM | Report abuse

Alright, sfskin, the blog is in good hands (though a strange creature appears to be sniffing around).

Actual football talk!

I bid you and all a fond adieu.

I must dream of epic battles with giants.

Posted by: farstriker | September 22, 2007 12:49 AM | Report abuse

Uh-oh not sure I can go solo. In fact I'm off to bed so I can kick some arse on the pitch tomorrow.

But I shall return and do my bit. I would hate to miss the big moment but I fear I may as I won't be around till late afternoon.

God speed and good luck. And if you should reach the top without me think well of me.

HTTR!

Posted by: sfskin | September 22, 2007 1:02 AM | Report abuse

As a cold wind blows across the Nations Capitol, old foes clash in a bitter riva... Well, its gonna be 80 and we will be in LANDOVER?? Sheesh, its tough to put a good John Facenda preamble together with that.

Posted by: Club 320 | September 22, 2007 1:03 AM | Report abuse

Do your best, Club 320! We're counting on you guys to represent the blog from those yellow seats. Make us proud!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 1:13 AM | Report abuse

Monoblogging is all right, but there's no substitute for the real thing.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 1:18 AM | Report abuse

Energizer bunny time... going for going's sake...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 1:20 AM | Report abuse

Jasno mentioned "Beside You" Van Morrison from his ipod. LOVE Astral Weeks, that's one of my desert island CDs.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 1:21 AM | Report abuse

Wondering if I can get somebody like my brother to hook up a Slingbox so I can watch games, when our new baby comes and I can't make it to the sports bar any more... hmm...

I know Diddy has been rocking the SLingbox. Anybody else have feedback?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 1:23 AM | Report abuse

Megskin and Nate both back in the past 2 weeks. Can the ol' RI be far behind??

Posted by: NC ICU RN | September 22, 2007 1:23 AM | Report abuse

Back to Portland for this next twelve ounces, a HUGE improvement over the last twelve: Bridgeport Brewing's Haymaker Extra Pale Ale. So very very delicious. Ah.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 1:24 AM | Report abuse

NC ICU RN in the house! Please, give me something to talk about. ANything.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 1:25 AM | Report abuse

Oh, of course I can go with song lyrics.

"We're caught in a trap, I can't walk out
Because I love you too much baby.
Why can't you see what you're doing to me
When you don't believe a word I'm sayin'?
We can't go on together with suspicious minds."

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 1:26 AM | Report abuse

Watching "Black Hawk Down", which is really, really uplifting and happy.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 1:27 AM | Report abuse

Still nervous about the Skins finding a way to lose on Sunday... trying to trust in the coaches and veterans to prevent that...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 1:29 AM | Report abuse

Mmmm... warthog.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 1:29 AM | Report abuse

One interception. One measly interception. That's all I ask. Aside from a victory of course.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 1:31 AM | Report abuse

Nate,
How's the monoblog?

Posted by: Stumped | September 22, 2007 1:33 AM | Report abuse

Really? Am I really gonna have to go with song lyrics up here?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 1:34 AM | Report abuse

Smoot already dropped the pic, remember?

Posted by: Stumped | September 22, 2007 1:34 AM | Report abuse

Here ya go, Stumped:

"The city is a jungle and I'm a beast
I'm a teenage tiger looking for a feast
I want the most but i'll take the least,
Cuz I'm a goo goo muck tiger and a teenage beast
You better duck when I show up
The goo goo muck"

How was that?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 1:36 AM | Report abuse

Stumped, we gotta get a second chance. Hell, I think Elisha might be kind enough to provide us with second and third chances to get that pickle we so desperately need.

I'm telling you, once we get the first one out of the way, our whole D will loosen up and we'll start getting one a week.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 1:38 AM | Report abuse

"Standing on the edge of the Hoover Dam
I'm on the centerline, right between two states of mind
And if the wind from the traffic should blow me away

"From this altitude it will come back to you
And do you know the time
All that's left of me is slight insanity
What's on the right I don't know"

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 1:40 AM | Report abuse

Tomorrow is a big day for lil'Stumped. I took his training wheels off last weekend and I'm taking him up to Mt Hood for a mountain bike ride tomorrow.

Don't cha just hate those pushy sports parents.

Posted by: Stumped | September 22, 2007 1:41 AM | Report abuse

"Juxtaposed in each moment's sight
Everything that I ever saw
And my one delight
Nothing can strike me in such awe
Mouth intricate shapes the voice that speaks
Always it will soothe
Rarer none are the precious cheeks
Is the size of each sculpted tooth
Each lip and each eye."

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 1:41 AM | Report abuse

That is awesome, Stumped! Should be a beautiful day on Mount Hood.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 1:43 AM | Report abuse

"When you fall into a trance
Sitting on a sofa playing games of chance
With your folded arms and history books you glance
Into the eyes of Madame George
And you think you found the bag
You're getting weaker and your knees begin to sag
In the corner playing dominoes in drag
The one and only Madame George."

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 1:44 AM | Report abuse

Smootie, did drop his cause he was tight...hit him right in the gut and bounce off.

You're right.

I'd like to see some 3 and out on the Big Blue side of the ball too.

Posted by: Stumped | September 22, 2007 1:44 AM | Report abuse

Madame George is my all time favorite VM song!

Posted by: Stumped | September 22, 2007 1:45 AM | Report abuse

"But two o'clock has come again
It's time to leave this paradise
Hope the chip shop isn't closed
Cos' their pies are really nice
I'll eat in the taxi queue
Standing in someone else's spew
Wish I had lipstick on my shirt
Instead of pi$$ stains on my shoes."

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 1:45 AM | Report abuse

Actually that whole CD, is teh Tiiiits.

Posted by: Stumped | September 22, 2007 1:46 AM | Report abuse

Oh and we're hitting the DQ at in Rhododendron, the end to any successful Hoodenture.

Posted by: Stumped | September 22, 2007 1:48 AM | Report abuse

Great minds, Stumped!

"I used to spend my money, to make you look real sweet
I wanted to be proud of you when we walked down the street
Now don't ask me to dress you up, in satin and in silk
Your eyes look like two cherries in a glass of bottled milk

Don't roll those bloodshot eyes at me!"

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 1:49 AM | Report abuse

The other lyrics will require teh secret decoder ring (I ordered it from the back of a comic book when I was in 5th grade...still hasn't come)

Posted by: Stumped | September 22, 2007 1:50 AM | Report abuse

Awesome, Stumped, awesome.

"Somethin' bout the way you taste makes me want to clear my throat
There's a method to your movement that really gets my goat
I look for sniffy linings but you're rotten to the core
I've had just about all I can take I can't take it no more.

I got a gut feelin'..."

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 1:51 AM | Report abuse

"The three years I went to college
Didn't make much of a difference to me
Made me feel so safe I didn't have to think
About the things I really wanna be."

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 1:52 AM | Report abuse

"A million poppies gonna make me sleep.
But just one rose it knows your name
The fruit is rusting on the vine
The fruit is calling from the trees

Hey, don't you wanna go down
Like some junkie cosmonaut
A million miles below their feet
A million miles a million miles

I'll be with you, girl, like being low
Hey hey hey like being stoned"

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 1:54 AM | Report abuse

I'll keep doing this, I really will. As Hagar the Horrible said, I got no pride.

"In the midnight moonlight I'll be walking a long and lonely mile.
And every time I do, I keep seeing this picture of you.

Here comes my baby, here she comes now,
And it comes as no surprise to me, with another guy.
Here comes my baby, here she comes now,
Walking with a love, with a love thats all so fine,
Never could be mine, no matter how I try."

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 1:56 AM | Report abuse

Good stuff.

Posted by: Stumped | September 22, 2007 1:56 AM | Report abuse

Nate since you brought up Jasno's song shout-outs...I gotta say I almost shrieked at my desk when I saw him mention "Bumblebee Tuna" in response to someone else's Mephiskapheles reference.

Was that one of the RI faithful?

Posted by: redskirt | September 22, 2007 1:57 AM | Report abuse

It's like a filibuster, only less fun.


"Show me the way to the next whiskey bar
Oh, don't ask why. Oh, don't ask why

For if we don't find the next whisky bar
I tell you we must die
I tell you we must die
I tell you, I tell you
I tell you we must die"

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 1:58 AM | Report abuse

By the way it's 2 AM here. I gotta get some points for this...

Posted by: redskirt | September 22, 2007 1:58 AM | Report abuse

"Yum Yum Bumblebee, Bumblebee Tuna
I love Bumblebee, Bumblebee Tuna
Yum, yum Bumblebee, Bumblebee Tuna
Love a sandwich made with bumblebees."

Posted by: redskirt | September 22, 2007 1:59 AM | Report abuse

I didn't recognize that questioner, redskirt, but I knew Jasno wouldn't miss a ska reference. No chance. His wheelhouse.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 1:59 AM | Report abuse

Big ups to you for blogging yer guts out at this late hour. Both of you.

HAIL!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 2:00 AM | Report abuse

I think I have a girlcrush on Megskin.

Posted by: redskirt | September 22, 2007 2:00 AM | Report abuse

"First thing I remember was askin' papa, why?
For there were many things I didnt know.
And daddy always smiled, took me by the hand,
Sayin' someday youll understand.

Well, I'm here to tell you now, each and every mother's son
You better learn it fast; you better learn it young,
'cause someday never comes."

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 2:02 AM | Report abuse

It dates from this moment:

No, if that had really been me it would have been something about LaRon Landry and his bone splintering, spleen gouging, testicle dislodging hit from last weeks game and the hope that he does the same to BBM's pissant, diaper wearing, little sham of a QB brother this coming Sunday.

Posted by: Megskin | September 21, 2007 11:52 PM

Hail. Just...Hail.

Posted by: redskirt | September 22, 2007 2:03 AM | Report abuse

"Sittin' here wishing on a cement floor
Just wishing that I had just something you wore

Bloody your hands on a cactus tree
Wipe it on your dress and send it to me."

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 2:03 AM | Report abuse

"I try so hard to get to you
But it never really seems to matter what I do
Stand on my head, bend over backwards too
Some times I talk until my face turns blue

Oh what a pity
Oh what a shame
Me and the skirts always turn out the same
A little bit angry
A little bit tame
Me and the skirts always turned out the same"

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 2:05 AM | Report abuse

"99 Luftballons
Auf ihrem Weg zum Horizont
Hielt man fuer UFOs aus dem All
Darum schickte ein General
Eine Fliegerstaffel hinterher
Alarm zu geben, wenn es so war
Dabei war da am Horizont
Nur 99 Luftballons"

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 2:07 AM | Report abuse

Ooh that was a good one Nate.

How 'bout:

"Da-dun-dun dun dun dun
dun-dun-dun
dun-dun-dun
dun-dun-dun
dun-da dun-da dun

"Da-da-da-da-duuun
Da da dun
da-da-da-da-duuun
da da dun
da-da-da-da-duuun
da da dun dun
Dun DUN!"

(Beavis & Butthead - "Annoying Song" to the tune of...SJK. That tune in the Nutcracker. The famous one.)

Posted by: redskirt | September 22, 2007 2:08 AM | Report abuse

redskirt,
Yeah, I totally got what everybody was missing when Megskin posted that.

(She had already checked out before I started posting)

Posted by: Stumped | September 22, 2007 2:08 AM | Report abuse

"I don't want a pickle
Just want to ride on my motorsickle
And I don't want a tickle
'Cause I'd rather ride on my motorsickle
And I don't want to die
I just want to ride on my motorcy... cle"

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 2:08 AM | Report abuse

She's staggering, isn't she? To go silent up here for so long, and then saunter in out of the blue and be at the height of her powers... scary, man, it's scary.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 2:10 AM | Report abuse

So I got the Doors (duh) and AG now...really an eclectic mix.

Posted by: Stumped | September 22, 2007 2:11 AM | Report abuse

Good gravy, this is one depressing movie. The Black Hawk is down. This stuff really happened. Ugh.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 2:11 AM | Report abuse

It's inspiring.

Posted by: Stumped | September 22, 2007 2:12 AM | Report abuse

"So messed up, I want you here
In my room I want you here
Now we're gonna be face-to-face
And I'll lay right down in my favorite place
And now I wanna be your dog
Now I wanna be your dog
Now I wanna be your dog
Well c'mon..."

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 2:12 AM | Report abuse

"Long as I remember
the rain been comin down.
Clouds of mystry pourin
confusion on the ground.
Good men through the ages,
tryin to find the sun;
And I wonder, still I wonder,
Who'll stop the rain.

I went down Virginia,
seekin shelter from the storm.
Caught up in the fable,
I watched the tower grow.
Five year plans and new deals,
wrapped in golden chains.
And I wonder, still I wonder
Who'll stop the rain.

Heard the singers playin,
how we cheered for more.
The crowd had rushed together,
tryin to keep warm.
Still the rain kept pourin,
fallin on my ears.
And I wonder, still I wonder
Who'll stop the rain."

Posted by: redskirt | September 22, 2007 2:14 AM | Report abuse

Dude, that thing will have you torqued for hours if the Blackhawk just went down.

Posted by: Stumped | September 22, 2007 2:14 AM | Report abuse

Nate, when I watched that movie I felt like my nerves had been used for machine gun target practice.

Posted by: redskirt | September 22, 2007 2:15 AM | Report abuse

"Dear hero imprisoned with all the new crimes that you are perfecting
Oh, I can't help quoting you
Because everything that you said rings true
And now in my cell (well, I followed you)
And here's a list of who I slew

Reggie Kray, do you know my name ?
Oh, don't say you don't, please say you do,
Oh, I am the last of the famous international playboys."

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 2:15 AM | Report abuse

CCR?

Posted by: Stumped | September 22, 2007 2:15 AM | Report abuse

RS,
you get big points if you're on EST.
Nate and I are only about a mile away as the crow flys

Posted by: Anonymous | September 22, 2007 2:16 AM | Report abuse

Soooo much easier with you guys up here mixing it up. Bless you.

"I'm sorry, but I'm just thinking of the right words to say.
I know they don't sound the way I planned them to be.
But if you wait around a while, I'll make you fall for me,
I promise you, I promise you I will."

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 2:17 AM | Report abuse

jeremy piven in cameo as helicopter pilot...

Posted by: chRIS larry | September 22, 2007 2:18 AM | Report abuse

"What a dream I had
Pressed in organdy
Clothed in crinoline
of smoky burgundy
Softer than the rain.

We wandered empty fields down
past the shop displays
I heard cathedral bells
tripping down the alleyways
As I walked on."

Posted by: redskirt | September 22, 2007 2:19 AM | Report abuse

"Sad to say I must be on my way
So buy me beer and whiskey cause I'm going far away (far away)
I'd like to think of me returning when I can
To the greatest little boozer and to Sally MacLennane."

I'll be seeing those guys in Seattle in a few weeks, Lord willing and Shane's liver permitting.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 2:19 AM | Report abuse

Yeah Stumped! Written in memory of the victims of Hurricane Camille in 1963 (I think was the year...flooding and mudslides buried entire towns here in Virginia).

Thanks, Anon...I've hit that odd late night 3rd wind I think.

Posted by: redskirt | September 22, 2007 2:20 AM | Report abuse

TONS of dudes are in this movie. It's like the Fast Times of the 90s.

"You know I even think that she stared like you
She used to just stand there and stare
And roll her eyes right up to heaven
And make like I just wasn't there

And she used to fall down a lot
That girl was always falling
Again and again
And I used to sometimes try to catch her
But never even caught her name."

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 2:21 AM | Report abuse

Hard Knocks is a good show...

Posted by: Chris laRry | September 22, 2007 2:22 AM | Report abuse

"We was all endangered charms
Swear we're havin' fun
And Jet Boy knows all we done
That's why he's the one

(That's why)
Jet Boy's fly
Jet Boy's gone
Jet Boy stole my baby

Flyin' around New York City so high
Like he was my baby"

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 2:23 AM | Report abuse

"The red-headed stranger from Blue Rock, Montana,
Rode into town one day.
And under his knees was a ragin' black stallion,
And walkin' behind was a bay.
The red-headed stranger had eyes like the thunder,
And his lips, they were sad and tight.
His little lost love lay asleep on the hillside,
And his heart was heavy as night.

Don't cross him, don't boss him.
He's wild in his sorrow:
He's ridin' an' hidin his pain.
Don't fight him, don't spite him;
Just wait till tomorrow,
Maybe he'll ride on again."

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 2:25 AM | Report abuse

"I beg you my darling
Don't leave me, I'm hurting
Big lonely above everything
Above everyday, I'm hurting

Lick my legs, I'm on fire
Lick my legs of desire
Lick my legs, I'm on fire
Lick my legs of desire

Yeah, you're not rid of me"

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 2:28 AM | Report abuse

"All the wants you waste
All the things youve chased
Then it all crashes down
And you break your crown
And you point your finger,
but there's no one around
Just want one thing
Just to play the king
But the castles crumbled
and you're left with just a name
Where's your crown, king nothing?"

Nate, I'm trying to guess yours but I know nothing...

Posted by: redskirt | September 22, 2007 2:28 AM | Report abuse

This one should just about do it...

"Hail to the Redskins!
Hail victory!
Braves on the warpath!
Fight for old D.C.!
Run or pass and score -- we want a lot more!
Beat 'em, swamp 'em, touchdown! -- Let the points soar!
Fight on, fight on 'til you have won
Sons of Wash-ing-ton.
Rah!, Rah!, Rah!

Hail to the Redskins!
Hail victory!
Braves on the warpath!
Fight for old D.C.!"

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 2:30 AM | Report abuse

Came in through the bathroom window
To check the thread count, which stands at 685+

Posted by: Stumped | September 22, 2007 2:30 AM | Report abuse

I think an hour of song lyrics was about enough... thank you for your indulgence.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 2:31 AM | Report abuse

ooh! Me! I know that one!

"Hail to the Redskins" - Marshall's wife Corinne.

Posted by: redskirt | September 22, 2007 2:31 AM | Report abuse

Stumped, are you able to triangulate the thread count and Dame's last overall total to come up with a rough idea of our current count?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 2:32 AM | Report abuse

knock, knock

Posted by: Stumped | September 22, 2007 2:32 AM | Report abuse

Speaking of enough.

It's 2:30 am.

I'm out!

Posted by: redskirt | September 22, 2007 2:33 AM | Report abuse

Orange

Posted by: Stumped | September 22, 2007 2:33 AM | Report abuse

redskirt, if it's any consolation I can't guess your either... that's the fun of it, I guess.

Beer run time.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 2:33 AM | Report abuse

Orange who?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 2:34 AM | Report abuse

Orange you glad you're not a helicopter pilot, Nate?

Posted by: Stumped | September 22, 2007 2:34 AM | Report abuse

Stumped, my brother, you are a trouper.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 2:35 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, this is one rough flick. And again, it really happened more or less like this. Awful, awful.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 2:36 AM | Report abuse

Gotta be somewhere near 98,700 by now. I'm guessing.

I sure do miss MV Dame.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 2:38 AM | Report abuse

We were closer now, way closer than earlier.

You could almost feel the closeness.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 2:40 AM | Report abuse

So very slow... really need something to spark some conversation... oops, forgot about also needing a fresh beer...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 2:43 AM | Report abuse

2:43 Fresh beer is

98,895

1,105 to go.

Posted by: Stumped | September 22, 2007 2:45 AM | Report abuse

Loosable type swallowed by Who's there? post.

If figures...Did I ever tell you about the time I opened six tabs and tried to post simultaneously?

Posted by: Stumped | September 22, 2007 2:48 AM | Report abuse

I may be missing the Jets and Filth-a-delphia games, theres a strong possibility I'll be in Japan for a week in November.

Posted by: Stumped | September 22, 2007 2:51 AM | Report abuse

98,898

Posted by: Stumped | September 22, 2007 2:53 AM | Report abuse

98,899

..and over to you Nate for the zeros

Posted by: Stumped | September 22, 2007 2:54 AM | Report abuse

Really?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 2:56 AM | Report abuse

The "who's there" was implied.

The rate limiting on Loseable Type was long thought to be one comment per minute (per IP or whatever)... but recently there have been a few instances of one name appearing on two comments posted the same minute. Not fakes, either. I did it once myself. Weird.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 2:58 AM | Report abuse

while in years past games like this (coming off a big W and expecting an easy one) always caused sleepless nights. the redskins, despite not deserving it, always underestimate and play down to their opponents. but i had a revelation last week watching us against the iggles, while i would normally think wed find a ay to blow that game, while i was watching i actually thought we would win. this is all cuz of the young guys we have on our team. guys not much younger than yourselves, guys with dreams, from small towns all across this great land who take the field and sacrifice everything for the people back home.

Posted by: Skins in Sichuan | September 22, 2007 2:58 AM | Report abuse

1000 comments in 37 hours? I'm not good with math, but I think we can do it in a lot fewer.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 3:00 AM | Report abuse

Hey, man, is it late night, early morning or midday tomorrow in Sichuan?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 3:01 AM | Report abuse

anyways its fun to see people play who could actually stick around for a while. the whole atmosphere is different and i hope that youth characteristic, as opposed to the coddled veteran characteristic, is what will carry over and cause us to play-up against shabby opponents

Posted by: Skins in Sichuan | September 22, 2007 3:01 AM | Report abuse

Nate,
I counted 178 posts from MVDame's marker in the Bodford thread and added 701 to Fresh Beer. So that's about it.

Posted by: Stumped | September 22, 2007 3:02 AM | Report abuse

we are exactly 12 hrs ahead of East Coast time so its 3PM

Posted by: Skins in Sichuan | September 22, 2007 3:02 AM | Report abuse

Sichuan, did you see Gaithersburg Skins' comment at 4:23pm? Required reading. The same kind of stirring stuff which you alluded to in your post.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 3:03 AM | Report abuse

also, the entire country of China is on one government issue time zone, which relates to bejing. so what the real "sun time" is I actually have no idea, prob like 1 or 2

Posted by: Skins in Sichuan | September 22, 2007 3:04 AM | Report abuse

Skins in Sichuan,
How do you get the games over there?

Posted by: Stumped | September 22, 2007 3:04 AM | Report abuse

Okay, now we have the US soldier being taken prisoner by a warlord... this movie is no end of yuks.

Happy Saturday, Sichuan! Are you going to be watching the Skins at 4am Monday your time? Hell of a way to start a work week!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 3:06 AM | Report abuse

Nate,
How will we get confirmation of 100k if MVDame is traveling?

Where's he going?

Posted by: Stumped | September 22, 2007 3:06 AM | Report abuse

Great work, Stumped. We needed that count. This is progress.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 3:08 AM | Report abuse

to answer both your queries, Nate: no i didnt, i was skimming the myriad of posts for something football related but ran into a discussion of race in america which reminded me of a high school assembly with a couple of Klansmen thrown in so i just kinda came down here . . .
Stumped: I pay the NFL Yahoo 300 bucks for every NFL game streamed onto my CPU. this means pic quality is low but also i can watch the game whenever i want (i ont watch them live, as pounding beer and cheefing ganja for a 1 am kickoff on a worknight dont appeal to me, so at work the next day i have a total net blackout, dont even check email so as to avoid scores) and you can watch sans commercials

Posted by: Skins in Sichuan | September 22, 2007 3:10 AM | Report abuse

As luck would have it, Dame is moving from the Vineyard to DC this weekend. So he will be heading for a ferry boat soon if he's not already on the way.

Cindy will be on later tomorrow, I think??

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 3:11 AM | Report abuse

Skins in Sichuan,

I'm in complete agreement. What we have here is a pretty good team that's working hard and finding a way to win close games. It's much easier to believe in a team that believes in itself and is really working as a team, instead of a bunch of over-paid free agents.

Posted by: Stumped | September 22, 2007 3:11 AM | Report abuse

And the beauty part is that with a youth movement, they get better, not worse.

Posted by: Stumped | September 22, 2007 3:13 AM | Report abuse

The notion of a total net blackout at work... that would mean a day off for me! I can't imagine a day without the net...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 3:13 AM | Report abuse

And the thing you mentioned, the cheefing, yes, I say yes to that. It wasn't just a beer run. Golly.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 3:14 AM | Report abuse

This one is a Lagunitas Sirius Anti-Gravity Cream Ale. I can vouch for the anti-gravity effects. Again, golly.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 3:15 AM | Report abuse

indeed. lazy stereotypes be damned. i have found that contrary to public opinion the cheefing and the playing/watching of sports is in fact a beautiful marriage

Posted by: Skins in Sichuan | September 22, 2007 3:17 AM | Report abuse

Gag me -- the Somali warlord makes his big Statement to the US soldier he has prisoner. Uh huh. Riiiight.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 3:17 AM | Report abuse

Strangely, I think we've got enough powder to kill the Giants and even knock off Green Bay.

Its the perennially lame Lions that give me the willies.

Posted by: Stumped | September 22, 2007 3:18 AM | Report abuse

One game at a time. One game at a time.

Giants.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 3:20 AM | Report abuse

We've choked on the Cards too.
All bets are off beyond those teams though.

Posted by: Stumped | September 22, 2007 3:21 AM | Report abuse

I really, really just want to see us play strong to the finish vs. the Gints.

And get an interception.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 3:24 AM | Report abuse

I know I would jinx the team if i were to leak details to the blog, but after looking at the skedule i saw a kind of "grand plan" for the first half of the seaon forming. the plan relies heavily on momentum from beating middle of the pack and shoddy teams and culminates in the birthlace of the american revolution

Posted by: Skins in Sichuan | September 22, 2007 3:24 AM | Report abuse

Well, it's really cool to know there are Skins fans way over there in Sichuan.

Posted by: Stumped | September 22, 2007 3:24 AM | Report abuse

And I really, really hope we don't look like tools in our throwbacks.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 3:24 AM | Report abuse

I'm sure they'll be fine throwbacks, but all that yellow is going to look really, really weird.

Better than white on white, though. I HATE white on white.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 3:26 AM | Report abuse

Eric Bana and John Hartnett having a Man to Man Talk in a bombed-out building... gag me.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 3:27 AM | Report abuse

Time for those boys to screw the pooch.

Posted by: Stumped | September 22, 2007 3:30 AM | Report abuse

I don't want to see a throwback unis curse that would be the end.

Posted by: Stumped | September 22, 2007 3:31 AM | Report abuse

how does one get cheetah in china?

Posted by: chris laRry | September 22, 2007 3:31 AM | Report abuse

Really impressed with Mount Hood ride. Trying to figure out what to do with our pretty day tomorrow. Maybe zoo, maybe Pirate Festival in Saint JOhn's... we'll see.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 3:31 AM | Report abuse

Boy, that's a great question, cL. I know where I got mine... but then I live in Portland, OR, USA!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 3:32 AM | Report abuse

Finally a song I recognized--Nate's 2:30 am post. Just killin' some time between patient checks by checking into RI. Hail to all us 3rd shifters!!

Posted by: NC ICU RN | September 22, 2007 3:33 AM | Report abuse

"No one gets left behind." barf.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 3:34 AM | Report abuse

Best patient in the ward right now, NC ICU RN?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 3:35 AM | Report abuse

about 60 more to 99k

Posted by: Stumped | September 22, 2007 3:37 AM | Report abuse

My favorites are the ventilator patients--quiet and sedated! Of course across from the nurses's station we have one who's been yelling out all night long "You can't go to the store like that!" LOVE IT!!

Posted by: NC ICU RN | September 22, 2007 3:37 AM | Report abuse

man i miss cheetah....but not good for my little "swimers"

Posted by: chris laRry | September 22, 2007 3:37 AM | Report abuse

Quiet and sedated... like me! Well, half right anyway.

Hold up, chris Larry, you guys trying to conceive?? Awesome, dude...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 3:38 AM | Report abuse

Speaking of the 'Skins choking--how many times were we the "1" in teams being "1 and 15" in the past few years? Be weary of the Giants and Lions.

Posted by: NC ICU RN | September 22, 2007 3:38 AM | Report abuse

It's so true, you can't go to the store like that!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 3:39 AM | Report abuse

Shhhh

Posted by: CHris larry | September 22, 2007 3:40 AM | Report abuse

pretty easy. it grows all over Yunnan Province and Xinjiang Province (way out west, think Central Asia, these folks dont even speak chinese) also, nobody really knows what it is so you can fire it up in a restaurant, bowling alley (or the USA v. north korea soccer game, ahem).
time eat now. me hungry. maybe some General Tso's Dog.
sleep well gentle bloggers.

Posted by: Skins in Sichuan | September 22, 2007 3:40 AM | Report abuse

The general in the OR mopping up the soldier's blood... triple gag me...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 3:41 AM | Report abuse

The wounded soldier on the stretcher "Don't go back out there without me!" Aaaaaaargh.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 3:42 AM | Report abuse

wow really...wild.....all hail the yunnan and Xinjiiang province

Posted by: chRIS Larry | September 22, 2007 3:43 AM | Report abuse

Right on, Sichuan, don't be a stranger, just be strange. Hail!

Posted by: Stumped | September 22, 2007 3:44 AM | Report abuse

nate turn the movie off!

Posted by: chris larry | September 22, 2007 3:44 AM | Report abuse

yknow if they woulda just left some of those guys behind intially we woulda saved ourselves a lot of mess. .. . i know its unamerican and all but cant they deploy some risk-analysis math equation that tells em when to just give up and stop getting their dudes killed. i mean, im just sayin'

Posted by: Skins in Sichuan | September 22, 2007 3:44 AM | Report abuse

The stretcher across the hall..
"You can't go to the store like that!"

It all runs together....

Posted by: Stumped | September 22, 2007 3:45 AM | Report abuse

These aren't rational human beings they're Marines.

Posted by: Stumped | September 22, 2007 3:47 AM | Report abuse

Okay, on the down low then...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 3:47 AM | Report abuse

Or were they Rangers?

Posted by: Stumped | September 22, 2007 3:48 AM | Report abuse

Movie done, Ridley Scott director explains a LOT (forgot a bout that while I was watching).

Now listeneing to some Astral Weeks. I am in a really astral mood right now. Golly.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 3:49 AM | Report abuse

Or Green Berets?

Posted by: Stumped | September 22, 2007 3:49 AM | Report abuse

fair enough, hail to 'em

Posted by: Skins in Sichuan | September 22, 2007 3:50 AM | Report abuse

Rangers and Delta Force. Not Delta House, which was a far superior movie.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 3:50 AM | Report abuse

If y'all never heard of "sundowners"--let me tell you it exists! Patients go crazy at night, then throw in a little ICU psychosis--you get people saying (and doing) all sorts of stuff. Families come in the next day and are like "What the he**??" and usually they're somewhat cleared up during the day. It's enough to make you drink!

Posted by: NC ICU RN | September 22, 2007 3:51 AM | Report abuse

Recorded in three days? Unbelievable vibe. Timeless.

Posted by: Stumped | September 22, 2007 3:51 AM | Report abuse

Or Delta Farce, what a great bad idea.

Too soon for a comedy movie with some of red state America's favorite "blue-collar" comics who are in the national guard and get called up for a real war, with hilarious consequeneces? Yeah, too soon. Wrong on just about every level. Like, "Ernest" wrong. Egads.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 3:52 AM | Report abuse

The Lester Bangs review of Astral Weeks -- which I probbaly first read afterr listening to the album heavily for five years -- is itself a revelation. What a meeting of genius, Bangs writing his stream of consciousness miracles about this most incredible accomplishment of Van Morrison's... wow.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 3:54 AM | Report abuse

We're looking at 35 comments to 99k

Posted by: Stumped | September 22, 2007 3:55 AM | Report abuse

Stumped, earlier I thought you had us passing 99,000 but obviously I was wrong. So now I get to celebrate it twice. Which is nice.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 3:55 AM | Report abuse

Orange who?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 3:56 AM | Report abuse

Lester bangs rulz
david frick drulz

Posted by: CHRIS Larry | September 22, 2007 3:57 AM | Report abuse

Lester bangs rulz
david frick drulz

Posted by: CHRIS Larry | September 22, 2007 3:57 AM | Report abuse

That makes even less sense than usual, posting that now...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 3:57 AM | Report abuse

The rare double post move! What a perfect way to get closer to 100k!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 3:59 AM | Report abuse

You breathe in you breathe out, you breathe in you breathe out, you breathe in you breathe out, then you're hiiiiiiiiigh...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 4:00 AM | Report abuse

WHoops, sorry about the song lyrics again. I really did mean to stop that.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 4:01 AM | Report abuse

"most of all in "Madame George" where he sings the word "dry" and then "your eye" twenty times in a twirling melodic arc so beautiful it steals your own breath, and then this occurs: "And the love that loves the love that loves the love that loves the love that loves to love the love that loves to love the love that loves."

From Bangs

Posted by: Stumped | September 22, 2007 4:02 AM | Report abuse

Something to talk about... something to talk about... somthing to talk about...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 4:02 AM | Report abuse

nate dont rub it in!

Posted by: Chris laRry | September 22, 2007 4:02 AM | Report abuse

Yep, Stumped, that's the very passage! That's the one! Great work!

DAMN, I love this blog.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 4:04 AM | Report abuse

i am still waiting for the Bangs bio movie with philip seymour hoffman reprising his protrayel from Almost Famous...

Posted by: chris laRry | September 22, 2007 4:05 AM | Report abuse

LOL chris Larry.

You know what's funny about the superhero lookalike Clark Kent/Wolverine thing, aside from how the opposiute of heroic I am, is that we know a blog peep who does look like a superhero: jm220. Put a costume and a cape on that dude, and it's like instant super hero. Luke Cage redux?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 4:06 AM | Report abuse

Is that movie happening? Wow, that would be awesomne. Maybe now that the great PSH has recovered from "Capote" and all that.

I'm still waiting for "A Confederacy of Dunces" with Will Ferrell in a fat suit.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 4:07 AM | Report abuse

On the itunes shuffle:

"True Love Ways," Buddy Holly

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 4:08 AM | Report abuse

my gas is acting up, i must have hot dog to soothe it

Posted by: CHris larry | September 22, 2007 4:09 AM | Report abuse

Fun night up here, all in all. Though I am goofy silly right now.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 4:10 AM | Report abuse

exactly, CL! I heard Ferrell was trying to get that project going, no idea if that's true...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 4:11 AM | Report abuse

Whoa, there it was, that split second when you realize that All is Not Well. Like a swoon but in a good way. Whoa. Wow.

"Jane the QUeen of Love" Frank Black

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 4:13 AM | Report abuse

ok its 4 am, the wife is away, i am sober as a mormon, and i am watching a leonard nimoy narrated documentary on machu pichu....maybe i should go to bed....

Posted by: chRIS Larry | September 22, 2007 4:13 AM | Report abuse

"Love Will Tear Us Apart" Joy Division

Getting close to 99k, I can feel it!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 4:14 AM | Report abuse

AND you have a gig tomorrow night, cL!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 4:15 AM | Report abuse

This song title is my nominee for a subtitle for the blog: Love Will Tear Us Apart.

Our love for the Skins is so intense but so personal that it's the cause of most of our disagreements up here... we all love this team!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 4:16 AM | Report abuse

So tired... so very tired... catching up with me all at once...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 4:18 AM | Report abuse

say good night chris larry,

"good night chris larry"

Posted by: chris larry | September 22, 2007 4:18 AM | Report abuse

"Hey" Pixies

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 4:19 AM | Report abuse

"Legs" PJ Harvey

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 4:21 AM | Report abuse

"When You're Young" The Jam

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 4:22 AM | Report abuse

"Lone Child" Frank Black

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 4:23 AM | Report abuse

"Marie, Marie" The Blasters

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 4:24 AM | Report abuse

Yes, just skipping ahead to the next shuffled song. Whoop do de.


Okay, so I started another music thing up here...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 4:25 AM | Report abuse

"Laid" James

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 4:26 AM | Report abuse

I hadn't read teh Bang article...it was tight....er in a really not tight kind of way.

http://www.harbour.sfu.ca/~hayward/van/reviews/astral.html

Posted by: Stumped | September 22, 2007 4:26 AM | Report abuse

Time to hit the Martin.

Posted by: Stumped | September 22, 2007 4:27 AM | Report abuse

"My Lover's Prayer" Otis Redding

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 4:29 AM | Report abuse

"Laid" James

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 04:26 AM

Would be 99000 (est)

Posted by: Stumped | September 22, 2007 4:29 AM | Report abuse

"Instant Karma" John Lennon

Does that mean we can call it a night?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 4:32 AM | Report abuse

"Waterfall" The Stone Roses

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 4:34 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, calling it a night just seems like the right thing to do...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 4:35 AM | Report abuse

One last time, with vigor...


Hail to the blog!

Hail to the wiki!

HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 22, 2007 4:36 AM | Report abuse

Last!

Posted by: Stumped | September 22, 2007 4:38 AM | Report abuse

none of you can ever be last.

Posted by: Skins in Sichuan | September 22, 2007 5:37 AM | Report abuse

Am I doing my math right? Was that last post an hour ago? No early risers on the East Coast?

Posted by: mugamack | September 22, 2007 6:29 AM | Report abuse

there are no words to accurately describe the level of lameness of this moronic sean taylor thing.

Posted by: | September 21, 2007 10:43 PM

It is now confirmed that Sean Taylor traveled back in time to knock the signature out of this ignorant post. Beware...

Posted by: Tony Snow | September 22, 2007 7:06 AM | Report abuse

Nate - I didn't read the above comments, but you were in the Sports section yesterday with the RI Blog Entry of the day....

Posted by: 4th via Home Floor | September 22, 2007 7:35 AM | Report abuse

Giants: RB Brandon Jacobs (knee) and WR Steve Smith (shoulder) are out; WR Plaxico Burress (ankle) is questionable; CB Kevin Dockery (ankle), QB Jared Lorenzen (ankle), WR David Tyree (wrist), and LB Gerris Wilkinson (knee) are probable.

Posted by: 4th via Home Floor | September 22, 2007 7:37 AM | Report abuse

.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 22, 2007 7:54 AM | Report abuse

Have you guys discussed the McNabb story?

I think he was right in his comments, but didn't provide enough specifics and now everyone is jumping on him.

I must say, this was def ill-timed. They too celebrate their 75th Anniversary this weekend and He will be honored as Philly's greatest QB. Sorry Sonny....

Posted by: 4th | September 22, 2007 7:58 AM | Report abuse

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/insider/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=3029978&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnfl%2finsider%2fcolumns%2fstory%3fcolumnist%3dpasquarelli_len%26id%3d3029978

If anyone has insider this talks about skins being happy they didn't trade rocky mack for briggs and a first rounder. I don't have it or i'd cut and paste.

Posted by: Skinz | September 22, 2007 8:08 AM | Report abuse

"The Philadelphia game was Evans's first start in nearly two years, and he excelled in his normal role as a special teams ace, played regularly as a defensive end, dropped into coverage when need be and moved inside to play tackle." -Jasno today

SEE! I KNEW there was some deal where a down linemen (DE) dropped into coverage. And someone was calling me periculum. Hahrumph!

What a night last night! Nate blogging all night long like Cali and Cartagena selling out a full harvest! If THAT was a fake Megskin, it was VERY convincing. See what I mean? Landry "bone splintering" (rather than "bone shattering") and media coverage of BBM as "offal-ridden" ... you can't fake that diction (at least not without a thesaurus).

New thought. If Burress really IS out, it is conceivable that the Giants don't score at all (other than maybe FGs).

Posted by: dcsween | September 22, 2007 8:21 AM | Report abuse

sean taylor can divide 12 by 5 with no remainder.

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 21, 2007 11:01 PM

Sean Taylor can divide you by your lower half with a remainder of 2.

Posted by: etrod | September 22, 2007 8:57 AM | Report abuse

sween,

That's a zone blitz. Most teams do it. They'll send a DB or linebacker and then drop a DL back to cover the hole they left.

I don't remember seeing you get blasted for this. I would/should have backed you up. That was by no means a perriculum statement. Now, if you'd sad that Priest Holmes was dropping back in to coverage...

Posted by: etrod | September 22, 2007 9:00 AM | Report abuse

Giants stars Pierce and Strahan testy with media?
Antonio Pierce has no answers for the awful play of the Giants' defense, so he let an air horn do his talking yesterday. The linebacker and defensive leader continually cut short questions from a Ch.5 reporter with the annoying blast of an air horn that was hidden under his sweatshirt in his first appearance in the locker room since before Sunday's loss to the Packers. The calculated stunt was designed to deflect criticism of his unit's historically bad play by playing the clown. He thought he was being clever, but just like the Giants' first two blowout losses, it wasn't very funny. Three times, Pierce interrupted questions with a blast until Reischea Canidate, the Ch. 5 reporter, said, "That's not necessary." "I want to talk about the Redskins. I don't want to talk about our defense," Pierce said, as if the two were mutually exclusive. And Pierce wasn't the only Giant who got defensive about the defense. Michael Strahan, who missed all of training camp and preseason, was irked when asked about a TV report during Sunday's loss to the Packers that showed the Giants sideline sitting passively as Green Bay broke the game open. "Anybody can sit on the sideline and look at the bench and go, 'Oh.' That is crap. You know what? That is crap," Strahan railed. "It is just so disappointing to me when you guys had me come out here to answer questions and you ask stuff that is just. ...Be creative. That is crap. Coach (Tom Coughlin) answered it. Don't ask me what you asked Coach. I am not Coach." -- NY Daily News

Posted by: 4th | September 22, 2007 9:05 AM | Report abuse

Sween - He is questionable, not out....

Posted by: 4th | September 22, 2007 9:10 AM | Report abuse

Skinz, here's the Insider article regarding the busted Briggs trade (I don't have Insider access either. I just pilfer the important articles from other web sites):

Sometimes the best trades are the ones that are never made.

Case in point: At the annual league meetings at Phoenix in March, officials from the Washington Redskins proposed a deal that would have netted them Chicago Bears franchise weakside linebacker Lance Briggs.

At the time, Briggs was balking at signing the one-year qualifying offer for a franchise player and Chicago was steadfast in not offering him a multi-year deal. The standout four-year veteran and two-time Pro Bowl performer threatened to never suit up for the Bears again. And so the Redskins offered to swap spots in the first round, allowing Chicago to move up to the sixth spot overall from its perch at No. 31, in exchange for the then-disgruntled linebacker.

The Bears mulled the offer for a few days and made a counter-proposal, requesting that Washington include a player in its trade package. That player was second-year linebacker Rocky McIntosh, a second-round choice in the 2006 draft who had made just two starts as a rookie and recorded only 28 tackles. Despite the difference in experience, and the perceived disparity in their talent levels, the Redskins refused to include McIntosh in the deal. While the discussions were revisited on draft weekend, the trade was never consummated.

And now, two games into the regular season, both teams might be thrilled it wasn't.

McIntosh, only 24, has been nothing short of terrific for the Redskins in their two victories. The former University of Miami standout has 20 tackles, two sacks, one forced fumble and one pass defensed. Anyone who watched last Monday night's win at Philadelphia couldn't miss McIntosh's explosive burst to the ball and pursuit skills. As impressive as rookie strong safety Laron Landry was -- the first-round draft choice from LSU sealed the win by knocking away a fourth-down pass from Eagles wide receiver Kevin Curtis -- McIntosh was arguably Washington's most impressive young defender.

It's very early in the season, but it certainly appears the Redskins have developed a viable playmaker at weakside linebacker, and for a very affordable price. The 35th prospect chosen overall, McIntosh signed a four-year, $3.4 million contract that included a signing bonus of $1.82 million. But his base salary for this season is just the second-year minimum of $360,000.

Had the Redskins made the trade for Briggs, they were prepared to reward him with a deal that included $20 million in guarantees, and already had agreed in principle to that contract. Instead, they'll pay McIntosh less than 20 percent of that and, for such a modest investment, appear to have a superb young player.

Not that Briggs, who ended up signing his one-year qualifying offer of $7.206 million with the Bears, is playing like a slouch.

The 26-year-old has been a terror through two games, with a terrific statistical collection which includes 20 tackles, one sack, one quarterback pressure, one pass defensed, one forced fumble and one recovery. As part of Briggs' one-year agreement with the Bears, the team, in addition to advancing him $1 million of his salary for 2007, stipulated that it cannot use the franchise marker on him again next spring, provided he participates in 70 percent of the club's defensive snaps this season.

So, clearly, Briggs is extremely motivated. The bigger numbers he puts up this season, the bigger his contract demands will be in a few months. He's playing for a lucrative contract somewhere next spring and, even if it's not in Chicago, where the club is unlikely to re-sign him, the Bears certainly are reaping the benefits of his performance in 2007.

To this point of the season, at least, both the Redskins and Bears are making out pretty nicely on the trade that wasn't completed.

Posted by: JustMe | September 22, 2007 9:14 AM | Report abuse

***SOCCER POST***

Woo hoo! USA USA USA!

Best quote of the game so far, "USA fans have to be thrilled to see Boxx".

Posted by: SMACK | September 22, 2007 9:19 AM | Report abuse

Thanks JustMe for posting that article. Way to come through for the Insiderless!

Posted by: redskirt | September 22, 2007 9:19 AM | Report abuse

Just think. We could be watching Rocky AND L2 making plays for Chicago this year. Thank you Front Office.

Did I just say that?

Posted by: etrod | September 22, 2007 9:20 AM | Report abuse

No problem, redskirt. :-)

Posted by: JustMe | September 22, 2007 9:31 AM | Report abuse

etrod,

I thought the same thing. I can't believe they made a decision that really seems to be paying off. I'm tentatively grateful and hopeful that they will continue to make such good decisions in the future.

Posted by: JustMe | September 22, 2007 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Yup. It took almost a decade, but the FO is finally getting it right....

That's Gibbs 2.4, though. Even though Snyder made the offer, he had to get approval from THE PRESIDENT of Football Operations....

Posted by: 4th | September 22, 2007 10:11 AM | Report abuse

Soccer Sucks.....

Posted by: ***Soccer Post*** | September 22, 2007 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Don't forget the Ultimatim, kiddies! lol. Tell your friends!

Posted by: Dik | September 22, 2007 10:18 AM | Report abuse

Soccer Sucks.....

Posted by: ***Soccer Post*** | September 22, 2007 10:14 AM

That's why it says ***Soccer Post*** d-bag, so you don't have to take time out of your busy day to read it.

Posted by: SMACK | September 22, 2007 10:25 AM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: Cindy | September 22, 2007 10:33 AM | Report abuse

*****Fantasy Post******

1-1. JC is my QB and we are playing the Redskins Defense of 2006. I love it.

Posted by: 4th | September 22, 2007 10:36 AM | Report abuse

The last time I checked, the Redskins don't play soccer s-bag, take it to the United Insider blog with the few hundred people or so that give a crap about it.

Posted by: ***Soccer Post*** | September 22, 2007 11:04 AM | Report abuse

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