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Team Practicing without Portis, Kendall

From Jason La Canfora:

The following players were not suited up for practice:

Clinton Portis (likely a day of rest)
Pete Kendall (likely a day of rest)
Ladell Betts (likely out four weeks with a knee injury; not on the field at all)
Chris Samuels (knee)
Chris Horton (ankle)

Stephon Heyer and Malcolm Kelly were in full pads, but may be limnited. We won't know for sure until we speak with Jim Zorn after practice.

Word is that Shaun Alexander will procure No. 37 from Reed Doughty, who is on the injured reserve list with a back/nerve injury.

By Cindy Boren  |  October 15, 2008; 1:45 PM ET
 
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It's WIDELY known and statiscally backed that wide receivers are the slowest group to catch on and make an impact for thier team then any other position on the field. Even first rounders who managed to start have terrible production.

Posted by: fbchick

It's actually widely known and statistically backed that WRs in general have a very high rate of failure, whether in season 1 or 4-5 years down the road.

I haven't done the full research yet (I may do it later when I have some time), but I'd be willing to bet that of the receivers that do become successful, at least 50% are somewhat successful early in their career (1st season, 30-40 catches 400-500+ yards). I do not get the impression that most receivers take 3+ years to develop. I get the impression that most receivers do nothing in their 1st 3 years, then a select few from that group do end up producing after that.

I'll say it again, it obviously isn't the end of the road right now, but it is not a good sign that they haven't taken strides forward yet.

Posted by: psps23 | October 15, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Cork - is this "idiotness" a new condition for you?

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | October 15, 2008 1:46 PM

Oh SNAP! Thou doth wound me.

Seriously? There is no greater "Tell" that you've won an argument than an unfunny Ad Hominum retort.

Plus, now Flounder has to crack open his Funk & Wagnalls. It's win-win.

Posted by: TheCork | October 15, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

DANG you, Beep beep


+++It's WIDELY known and statiscally backed that wide receivers are the slowest group to catch on and make an impact +++--FBChick

SHHHHHHH!!!. don't tell the Iggles or the Denvers--TheCORK

+++So why would you think a second rounder is going to break the starting lineup so fast??+++

Um, Eddie Royal and DeSean Jackson?

+++I mean I didn't fall asleep and miss half the NFL season, did I?+++

I'd consider the possibility.

+++These guys were not drafted for "this" year.+++

Really? Says who?

+++ They were drafted for the future. When a teams moves from selecting "needs" in the draft to selecting the best option available, they are saying they have confidence in what they already have and are looking towards the future.+++

If they weren't selected as big receivers for the WCO, but rather as replacements for, say, Moss and randle El, the prospect of drafting Jackson and Royal makes more sense.

Good thoughtful post. I just happen to disagree.

Posted by: TheCork | October 15, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

I hope Reed at least got some cash from Shaun to take the number!

Posted by: redskins91 | October 15, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

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Alright what about steve smith of the giants he sucked all season long but came on big in the post season and is now the 2nd receiver ahead of toomer. he was drafted about the same time our wr's are. Give it time. And deshawn jackson is not very good, look at all his mistakes on the field. And also look at the records of the teams the rookie receivers are playing for. Im not worried about our picks until we absolutly need one to step in due to injury. The only thing they are doing now is getting a little game time experience.

Posted by: SAK2 | October 15, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: SAK2 | October 15, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Cork,

Jordy Nelson
Limas Sweed
James Hardy
Devin Thomas
Mario Manningham

These guys haven't contributed like Jackson and Royal, have, are they busts?? Or maybe, just MAYBE, becuase both Jackson and Royal were FORCED into starting because of injury, or lack of anyone else worthy, could be helping them??

Posted by: BeantownGreg | October 15, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

TheCork

I agree, we had NEEDS for big WR for the new offense. This wasn't considered a need a couple of yrs down the line. True, these guys might be good down the line, but right now, they're needed to take some pressure off of our starters, and that just hasn't happened.

Posted by: ga8085 | October 15, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

I don't get how the number market works....isn't it the property of the skins or some Arab of long long time ago...sincerely

Posted by: dealer1 | October 15, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

ga8085, please don't confuse your want with a team need. Sure, you want the 2nd rounders to take some pressure off of the starters, but is it really needed? No. Look at the stats. Every game, either Moss, CP, or Cooley is putting up monster numbers. The offense isn't stagnant. They don't have trouble moving the ball.

Again, the season is only 6 games old. If the skins desperately needed the 2nd rounders to be on the field, they would be.

Posted by: -swb | October 15, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Well played, cork, well played..

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | October 15, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Didn't Mr. Monk take a while to develop? He didn't do big numbers until his 4th yr. and his 3rd year was pretty dismal (only played half a season).

I think we can all agree eveyone is different and we wish we had more production from these two kids.

booyashaquille

Posted by: DikShuttle | October 15, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

is it fb chick or fbc hick?

Posted by: dealer1 | October 15, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

The Broncos and Eagles were looking to replace starting WRs this year, due to a retirement and incompetence, respectively.

Posted by: tafka | October 15, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Dik, My Man- They all played only half a season in Monk's 3rd year.

Posted by: 4-12 | October 15, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Again, the season is only 6 games old. If the skins desperately needed the 2nd rounders to be on the field, they would be.

Posted by: -swb | October 15, 2008 2:07 PM

Then why is Santana being doubled? Because no one else is taking the pressure off him. And don't you think the team NEEDS them out there on 4 WR sets? Give me a break...

Posted by: ga8085 | October 15, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Alexander should have taken #35 as a Redskin, leaving the recent bad karma of #37 for him in Seattle. (He will also now be easier to spot for the opponents.)

Posted by: tafka | October 15, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Was that a strike season? m'bad...

Still... 3fumbles ... not good hehe.

Posted by: DikShuttle | October 15, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

is it fb chick or fbc hick?

Posted by: dealer1 | October 15, 2008 2:11 PM

Dealer - if it was the latter, the ID would have been "fbc bama".

Posted by: tafka | October 15, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Damn, Jasno!

beep beep

Posted by: tafka | October 15, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Every time I try to get out they pull me back in!

Sorry, I can't let this go by, it is utterly silly and ridiculous to suggest they used three second round draft choices on guys that they were hoping would contribute in 3 or 4 years and weren't expecting anything from them now. That's just dumb. We're they expecting starters and pro bowlers, of course not, were they expecting contributions? of course they were! Does it take time for draft picks to develop into stars or integral parts of your team absolutely, but day one 1st and 2nd round picks should be contributing, period.

Posted by: zjfr2 | October 15, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Santana is being doubled because he was putting up huge numbers. This would be a problem if it meant the offense had become stagnant as a result, but the offense hasn't.

The Skins offense has plenty of playmakers and the offense has kept humming as a result.

Evidently the team doesn't NEED them out there on 4 WR sets (even though Thomas has been out there...) if they are productive regardless.

Posted by: -swb | October 15, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

+++It's WIDELY known and statiscally backed that wide receivers are the slowest group to catch on and make an impact +++--FBChick

SHHHHHHH!!!. don't tell the Iggles or the Denvers--TheCORK

+++So why would you think a second rounder is going to break the starting lineup so fast??+++

Um, Eddie Royal and DeSean Jackson?
Posted by: TheCork | October 15, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse


And how much of Jackson's production has more to do with the fact that the Eagles have no other option then him at Wide Receiver???

The kid has almost as many drops as he catches, and every team in the league probably would have pulled him from the game after the bonehead missed TD beacuse he celebrated to early, but the eagles with no other options had him back in the line up on the next offensive snap.

If you think Jackson would have as many oppotunities here as he does there, you're kidding yourself.

We have the luxury of having better options while Thomas figures out he's seperation issues.

Admittedly though, I haven't seen much of Royal... but I'm trying to see where 5 catchs and 30 yards is liting it up in Denver on a team that has been pass happy all season. I mean over 1600 passyards for that team already and the kid has 30 and you're drooling over him??? I mean he accounts for 1.5% of their passing offense. Thomas averages 1.0%

Color me ubber impressed!

Posted by: fbchick | October 15, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: talent_evaluator | October 15, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

limnited

Posted by: Brian_P_McConnell | October 15, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Devin Thomas seemed unable to create separation Sunday. I was at the game in great seats and was keying on him a lot when he was on the field. I like him, I still think he'll pan out. He's 21 and played exactly one year of D-1 college ball. I think he's definitely a project. I thought Kelly would be able to make an immediate impact but he cannot stay healthy. Big worry.

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | October 15, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Even if Devin Thomas or Malcom Kelly were putting up great numbers, we'd hear negatives from the same people complaining now. We'd hear about how their productivity is taking away from balls for Santana and Cooley, etc.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | October 15, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Art Monk led the Redskins receiver in catches and yards as rookie even though he didn't start until the 3rd game, but he was already contributing. Bad analogy of a HOF receiver to two 2nd round receivers who've got a combined 4 catches and 3 pass interference penalties to date.

Bigger issue is that there were players at other positions who were higher rated at the Combines that could have come in and immediately contributed at positions, even if they didn't start, such as DL and Safety. Even if Thomas or Kelly is a starter by their 3rd season, both Moss and Randel-El will be on the downside of their careers in their early 30's.

Please don't tell me that the Skins team was so set at every position that they could afford to use their 3 2nd rounders on guys who didn't need to be immediate contributors. Is it a coincidence that Horton has been starting since Week 3 or did we need some upgrades and depth at multiple positions? The Skins wouldn't have traded their 2nd round pick next year for a 34-year old DE who is past his prime if they had drafted a DE in the 2nd round this year.

Posted by: wizfan89 | October 15, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

I love how our "Redskins Insider" has to use the term 'likely'

Posted by: jonthefisherman | October 15, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

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