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Tebow's confident his show will play in NFL

Not surprisingly, the spectacle at the Senior Bowl has centered around All Things Tim Tebow.

At his media availability on Wednesday, he was asked as many questions about his anti-abortion Super Bowl commercial as he was about football. So on some level, he's transcended the sport; on another, it's not even clear where his place is in the sport.

From the practice field to the restaurants to the bars, the Tebow topic was hotly debated this week, amongst coaches, scouts and reporters. They complained about his mechanics -- his throwing motion, his release, his footwork, his accuracy - and they praised him for winning despite these shortcomings.

Though a few -- including Tony Dungy -- have pegged Tebow as a late first-rounder, many others think he'll drop into the second or third. Tebow himself isn't too worried. Jacksonville seems like his most likely destination, but another team might think he's worth the risk.

"I believe in myself and I believe in my ability, my ability to be coachable and my ability to work hard," Tebow said Wednesday. "So I feel with those things, I can be an NFL quarterback."


He basically has to prove himself in Mobile, again at the NFL Draft Combine next month and in any other workouts he does. Tebow said this week that he'd be willing to play another position in addition to quarterback, as he adjusts to the next level, but wouldn't discuss the possibility of playing another position instead of quarterback.

Many analysts keep discussing Tebow as an H-back, a tight end or even fullback, even though he hasn't shown the burst of speed needed or displayed a skill-set to convince anyone he can play those positions in the NFL.

"Not too worried what a team's going to do with me, just that they pick me right now," Tebow said.

In Mobile, he started with a shaky practice Monday and showed slight improvements each day. His agent has said he had to visit a hospital for strep throat Monday, which drew chuckles from cynics around the practice field. He definitely has detractors who don't think he'll fit in the NFL, but Tebow remains intent on proving them wrong.

"I can use that as motivation as well," he said. "Just throw it on top."

By Rick Maese  |  January 28, 2010; 12:15 PM ET
 
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I cant stand preachy-overly-religious ppl. Its quite annoying. Tebows whole explanation as to why he's pro-life is retarded. He'll fail as an NFL QB too. But some team will waste a pick on him.

Posted by: VaBeachBlitz | January 28, 2010 12:23 PM | Report abuse

I am having a bit of Tebowitis, or inflammation of my ability to endure this non stop broadcast from NAMBLA

Posted by: mattsoundworld | January 28, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

I'm confident that Tebow will be opening up his ministry in 3-5 years.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 28, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

First -
Tebow Shouldn't be drafted until at least the 3rd Round. He is a project at best.

Posted by: t1205 | January 28, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

First -
Tebow shouldn't be drafted until at least the 3rd Round. He is a project at best.

Posted by: t1205 | January 28, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

va, agreed, shame on him for what his opinion is, he should have asked you first....then formed his opinion...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 28, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Just say no to Tebow. I'm a pro-lifer myself, and I admire him for speaking out, but he is not going to make it in the NFL as a quarterback. It would be interesting to design some option plays with the guy as an H-Back.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 28, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Jesus (no pun intended), you have the right to your own opinion but get that garbage out of the Super Bowl ads. No place for political/ethical/social/religous opinions. Keep them funny, short, and sweet.

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | January 28, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

If you voted for the Redskins to pick Tebow in this years draft please go find a desk, put it in a dark closet, and put your head down on the desk for at least 4 hours to think about what you have done.

Posted by: gtstang9t3 | January 28, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

tebow should quit wasting his time & concentrate on playing another position other than QB.

Posted by: phk28 | January 28, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

If only Ms. Tebow would have aborted him. Then this NAMBLA convention wouldnt exist.

Posted by: VaBeachBlitz | January 28, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Every pass to the flat would be a pic-6. He's not an NFL QB. I don't want to hear anything about his throwing style being unorthodox. Even the unorthodox throwers get the ball there on the zip (Kosar, Rivers, Flute, Young).

Dude cannot do a simple three step drop back from center, keep the both noses of ball between the neck and pec, throw it from the ear, and follow through with the hips. H-back or TE. QB maybe in a wildcat. Outside of that he'd be a turnover machine, if he doesn't throw a pic, he'll be getting stripped of the ball by the DE.

Posted by: clark202 | January 28, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

BTG, he can have his opinion. Even if its a retarded one like pro life. But Big Foots Possy hits the nail on the head. Keep it out of the SB!

Posted by: VaBeachBlitz | January 28, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

If you voted for the Redskins to pick Tebow in this years draft please go find a desk, put it in a dark closet, and put your head down on the desk for at least 4 hours to think about what you have done.

Posted by: gtstang9t3 | January 28, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

LOL!

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | January 28, 2010 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | January 28, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

"If only Ms. Tebow would have aborted him. Then this NAMBLA convention wouldnt exist"

classy....and thanks for allowing him to have his opinion...mighty big of you....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 28, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Foot,
now that was funny.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | January 28, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Could care less about Tebow, Mr. Reid...give us some interesting Senior Bowl prospect updates instead! (OL, RB, FS, any other QBs, etc).

Posted by: PDXskin | January 28, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Best Quarterback in the Draft!

Posted by: filmchis | January 28, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

I'd take him in the 4th round. He's a project. He has good size and a strong work ethic so it isn't that unlikely that he can become a QB but don't plan on it in under 3 years. He has to change his throwing mechanics, learn how to play under center, and shorten up that release. In the meantime he may be a good short yardage QB for a team with an undersized QB. If he doesn't pan out then too bad but if he does you can either keep him or flip him for a pick. I think every team should always be trying to develop a QB. They're too valuable not to.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 28, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Tim Tebow=Scott Frost

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 28, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

There is no chance Tebow could play TE, H-Back or Full Back in the NFL and he is going to have trouble playing QB. Could you imagine him playing TE and trying to block a DE type player like Demarcus Spears? No chance!

Posted by: mburns134 | January 28, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Why wasn't one of the poll choices?:

"Hell No"!

Posted by: rickyroge | January 28, 2010 12:44 PM | Report abuse

There is no chance Tebow could play TE, H-Back or Full Back in the NFL and he is going to have trouble playing QB. Could you imagine him playing TE and trying to block a DE type player like Demarcus Spears? No chance!

Posted by: mburns134 | January 28, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

The only perosn in this draft that could block Demarcus Spears is Russanthony Okungavis.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 28, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Could you imagine him playing TE and trying to block a DE type player like Demarcus Spears? No chance!

Posted by: mburns134 | January 28, 2010 12:42 PM

Demarcus Ware
Marcus Spears

I don't think anybody could block Demarcus Spears.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 28, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

I don't think anybody could block Demarcus Spears.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 28, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse
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I had to Google-Fu that one, too, but there is apparently a kid coming out of high school this year with highlight vids n junk, so I was gonna let that slide till I saw them. But in 3-4 years... he might be right

Posted by: mattsoundworld | January 28, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Oh come on! thats funny. I guess its not to a pro lifer.

But classy isnt the word that comes to mind when thinking about tebows preachy SB commercial.

Posted by: VaBeachBlitz | January 28, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

whether the man is anti or pro. The question is do we want him to be drafted as QB? Answer: NO. Do we want lineman: Yes. Focus fans..focus!!!

Posted by: hammer4 | January 28, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Its fine to be pro-life but to try an force that belief onto other people is just plain not cool. This country is supposed to be about freedom. That elections are won orblost based on this issue is perhaps the biggest political problem that this country faces. Freedom of religion dam it!

Trying to force ones religion on someone else is just wrong.

Tebow would be a good wildcat guy, it seems

Posted by: pabrian2003 | January 28, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Anybody else think that 90% of the time 80% of league's post are negative and angry?

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 28, 2010 11:52 AM

"90% of the time 80% are..." ?

Who is that called himself "Angry Old Man Jack" on the Wiki? Who's the guy who removed himself from the blog for eight months because he was so hostile and in so many fights? Not me -- zjfr2!

Posted by: League-Source | January 28, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

judge not, etc, etc

(ok, let's move on)

Posted by: _Stumped_ | January 28, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

I'd like Tebow more if he was more like John Daly and less like a preacher.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | January 28, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

pab, how is he forcing it on you?

I mean, its a commercial right? Just in case I'm missing something......

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 28, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Tebow will only succeed if he is in a proper system. He doesnt need to take many snaps at all under center.

There was a stat that showed Tom Brady took around 70% of his snaps from under center this year. Manning has taken a surpisingly high % as well. In the AFC Championship game, I believe it was around 70% as well.

Dont get your panties in a wad, I am not comparing him to either of those two, just pointing out this argument that he NEEDS to take his snaps from under center is not really based on fact. It is based on certain teams offensive philosophies.

If he lands on a team that is willing to teach him and develop him for a few years he could be an NFL QB. Who knows how good or bad he could be.

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | January 28, 2010 1:04 PM | Report abuse

BTG being in a SB commercial and having an opinion are two separate things.

It's a personal decision and not one I would want an athlete to try and influence either way.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | January 28, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

eh, whateves, I guess, I'm not that influenced by commercials....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 28, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

I would have take Tebow in the 4th until I found out how anti-Sex he was.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 28, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

PAB is used to getting things forced on/in him. So he's a little overly sensitive especially when christian ideology is involved!

Posted by: VaBeachBlitz | January 28, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Anybody else think that 90% of the time 80% of league's post are negative and angry?

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 28, 2010 11:52 AM
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90% of 80% is 72%. So you are saying League's posts are negative and angry 72% of the time? I'd have to see the data on that. Show me the 28% of the time when League wasn't negative or angry, before I believe some optimistic statistics like that....

BTW, who cares? Don't read him or ignore him if his dark cloud is bringing you down. I know most of the stuff I post on here ain't bright and sunny and I wouldn't blame anyone for ignoring it; however, writing on the RI is therapeutic. It keeps me from listening to those voices in my head...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 28, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

gatorskinz2000

"If he lands on a team that is willing to teach him and develop him for a few years he could be an NFL QB."


The guy who backed up Tebow at UF, Brantley, is more of an NFL quarterback than Tebow.

Tebow would've shut up the scouts if in the SEC Championship game, he had won the contest by picking apart the Bama D with excellent dink and dunk touch passes.

But he didn't.

He's a one trick pony.

He will get some NFL time, go into the media end of the game, make his mark there like Jesse Palmer has, and will be remembered as the best college football player of the last 20 years.

But as for the pros, he ain't got game.

And the reality of the skill needed in the NFL to play quarterback will abort his dreams.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 28, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Mike Shanahan

Offensive Coordinator (Florida Gators 1980-83)

Posted by: filmchis | January 28, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

John Daly is a drunk who wasted away plenty of potential. Tebow is a hard worker who is annoyingly preachy with his religious beliefs. Give me somebody like Tebow every time, I can tune him out and form my own opinions wherever I want. That being said the Skins don't need him but if he is sitting there in the 6th round I would take him.

Posted by: ToddStinkston | January 28, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

I wouldn't waste a draft pick on him. If any team were to be interested in him, they'd do better to pick him up in FA. Unless its a team that's already stacked and could role the dice on Tebow. Then again, there's always Al Davis.

Posted by: clark202 | January 28, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Remember last year when everyone had Tebow as a top pick?

Posted by: _Stumped_ | January 28, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

60% of the time, it works, every time...

Posted by: Rypien11 | January 28, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Yep...totally meant Demarcus Ware. Brain fart much?

Posted by: mburns134 | January 28, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

BTG being in a SB commercial and having an opinion are two separate things.

It's a personal decision and not one I would want an athlete to try and influence either way.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | January 28, 2010 1:08 PM

I agree (just to be positive for once). I think we should only listen to Hollywood stars on political things like this. Athletes should only voice their opinions about Mastercard, beer, shaving products, cars, pick up trucks, and athletic equipment (like condoms).

Posted by: League-Source | January 28, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

I'd like Tebow more if he was more like John Daly and less like a preacher.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | January 28, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

What's funny is that Daly who's had multiple issues including domestic violence is well loved while Tebow isn't.

I'm not a fan of Tebow's politics but I don't like KFC, Fords or Pepsi and they don't bother me.

Posted by: Gweez | January 28, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

The guy who backed up Tebow at UF, Brantley, is more of an NFL quarterback than Tebow.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 28, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

You wont hear an argument from me on that end. Brantley could have a stellar year this year in college and I wouldnt be surprised if by the end of next years season he is listed with the top QB's in College.

He has 2 years of eligibility left so, he might take both of those years to show what he has.

Brantley has much more accurate and stronger arm than Tebow.

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | January 28, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

I would have take Tebow in the 4th until I found out how anti-Sex he was.


Posted by: alex35332 | January 28, 2010 1:11 PM |

It's guys with these kind of views that are most likely banging away day and night.

His GF is hot so if he isn't giving it to her Jody is.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 28, 2010 1:22 PM | Report abuse

I answered no, but you know what, at least he would work hard, focus, and cut out the silly crap. Gotta keep him off the no Sunday 1-4pm airwaves though.

Posted by: dclifer97 | January 28, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

I answered no, but you know what, at least he would work hard, focus, and cut out the silly crap. Gotta keep him off the non Sunday 1-4pm airwaves though.

Posted by: dclifer97 | January 28, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

PAB

Isn't telling him not to force his beliefs/opinions on other people forcing a belief/opinion onto him? Just sayin....

Posted by: rajeschke | January 28, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

@Rypien11...

Sex Panther! Awesome!

Posted by: Bebunk | January 28, 2010 1:26 PM | Report abuse

PAB

Isn't telling him not to force his beliefs/opinions on other people forcing a belief/opinion onto him? Just sayin....

Posted by: rajeschke | January 28, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Nope

Posted by: Gweez | January 28, 2010 1:26 PM | Report abuse

I have no problem with Tim Tebow expressing his religious/political beliefs - even though I happen to disagree with him. That's his right as an American. Its my right as an American to find his preachiness annoying and to dislike him.

He's about to publically alienate and irritate half of the country who disagree with him on abortion. I'm sure that will be a big plus in his ability to land product endorsements.

Posted by: jva1 | January 28, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

"PFT is reporting that despite their best efforts to make their intentions on draft day, new Redskins Coach, Mike Shanahan, and General Manager, Bruce Allen are said to be absolutely smitten with Dez Bryant. Despite numerous issues along the offensive line, the pair are secretly telling other teams that Bryant will be their pick at #4"

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 28, 2010 11:06 AM | Report abuse

...And so begins the 2010 draft disinformation season . . .

Posted by: rbpalmer | January 28, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Let's see, there's a mute button, get up and get your own beer (might be hard for some) or other libation, channel check. I hate it when the do-gooders try to dictate what can be on TV, but it seems that only some opinions can be heard.

I guess that means that there is freedom of speech only if you believe in what spews forth from those in which you agree.

I believe that is commonly called another freedom lost.

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | January 28, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

"I would have take Tebow in the 4th until I found out how anti-Sex he was."


I don't mind Tebow's politics.

I mind the stories I hear about NFL ballas who have groupie orgies that are filmed and shared with other players.

And I'm upset by these dudes who leave children in their sexual wake like so much flotsam from a wandering cruise ship.

Thing is, had the skins been building the line, adding backs, and managing the roster properly, a guy like Tebow would make a fine role player type like B Smith.

I'd design a series of 'wildcat' type packages replete with the very same offensive plays Tebow ran at UF.

But you can't add a role guy when you got needs like we do.

And you can't dismiss a guy's holier-than-thou politics when so many other player's live lives that would make most of us married and settled down types cringe.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 28, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Bean

Dez Bryant is a name we'll all be calling after some time around October.

He's the player teams like the dolphins, jets, and panthers would add to have an Andre Johnson type receiver.

Think of the pairings:

Fins-Bess/Bryant

Panthers-Smith/Bryant

Jets-Edwards/Bryant

Redskins-Moss/Thomas/Bryant

That last one wasn't a mistake.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 28, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

...And so begins the 2010 draft disinformation season . . .


Posted by: rbpalmer | January 28, 2010 1:28 PM

No, this is just a continuation of the 2010 BeantownGreg disinformation season. But, the dude is like 28-0 so far this season.

Posted by: League-Source | January 28, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Yes I want Tebow on the Redskins, as a 2-3 year project for Shannahan - which means I'd like him in the late second or in the third round, when he probably won't be available.

He has too much desire to play well and good physical characteristics to not at least have a shot at being a good QB if a coach has a proper vision on how to develop him over time(without PT).

Posted by: BrokenClipboard | January 28, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Redskins-Moss/Thomas/Bryant

That last one wasn't a mistake.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 28, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Heck yeah that'd be awesome.... If we could trade down pick up a qb, 2 guards and 2 tackles and still get him.

WRs get considerably less effective when your QB is throwing from his back.

Posted by: Gweez | January 28, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

F Tebow. but you pay for the time you deliver your jive. its all just benjamins for CBS.

Posted by: chrislarry | January 28, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

bean, my op was a general statement for the general audience. It was pretty clear, you misunderstood it.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | January 28, 2010 1:47 PM | Report abuse

worked for Reggie White...

if Flutie can play, Tebow can play.

Doesn't mean I want him here, tho. Of course I'd eat my words if he became an Eagle and thrashed us w/ his running game. Vick/Tebow wildcat is a little unnerveing, isn't it?

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 28, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

worked for Reggie White...

if Flutie can play, Tebow can play.

Really? This makes no sense. So if you have poor mechanics and one guy made it with poor mechanics (He didn't exactly light up the league either) then all can?

Do you perhaps mean that If Flutie did it then it's possible for Tebow to do it? Perhaps that's a more logical theory.

Posted by: Gweez | January 28, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

I don't think anybody could block Demarcus Spears..... From getting to the buffet table!

Posted by: millineumman | January 28, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

haha good one va beach blitz, your having gay thoughts about me, you r soooo funny and clever.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | January 28, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Moe,
Its Tebow's politics that irresponsibly lead to the actives of others you complain about.

The anti-sex movement is about not teaching, not educating.

You leave people ignorant and they will do that kind of dumb stuff, they will be irresponsible. I mean sure some of it has to do with their own station in life as a celebrity, but as resent data has shown, ever since we started preaching abstinence only in the schools teen pregnancy has gone up.

We have to be realistic about our humanity, teach kids that there are shades of gray and teach them to be smart.

Because knowing, is half the battle.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 28, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, Tebow's commercial that tells young women. who got pregnant by unresponsible a--h*!3s, they have choices is out of control.

As for skills-> played against teams who would whip the Redskins butts all over the field and won alot of games doing it. He can't play against NFL talent. Whatever.

Posted by: cadlecreek1 | January 28, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Tebow could turn out to be a good NFL player if he lands in the right situation.

Odds are, though, that he will be drafted by Jax as a publicity stunt and forced on to the field too early, ruining any potential that he might have.

As far as the preachiness, if you don't like it, you can cough up $2.5 mil and buy a Superbowl add of your own.

CBS will gladly take your money.

Posted by: Original_etrod | January 28, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Tim Tebow is a great kid with a keen sense of self and confidence. Unfortunately he is not an NFL QB. His throwing motion is more inclined for him to compete in the Olympics as a javelin thrower. No disrespect to what he has done to date, but his future is not in the NFL.

Posted by: skinfannomore | January 28, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

As far as the preachiness, if you don't like it, you can cough up $2.5 mil and buy a Superbowl add of your own.

Posted by: Original_etrod | January 28, 2010 1:57 PM

"The following time out is brought to you by Planned Parenthood."

Posted by: League-Source | January 28, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

How is Tebow being a spokesman for a cause that paid 2.5 million for the ad space him forcing his opinion on anybody? If you don't agree then you're still entitled to disagree. Just as you are entitled to pay the money and run your own ad if you want to. He's entitled to his opinion and beliefs and he's entitled to express them on whatever platform he's been given to do so. Why is everyone upset about this? The dominating position in academia, television shows, and the media that is forced on society is pro-choice why does one ad to the contrary present such a horrible thing and mean he's some horrible person. Personally, I'm pro-choice, but I could care less that he's running an ad to the contrary, he has every right to and I'm glad I live in a country that permits him that right.

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 28, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Somebody will pick Tebow, but if it's as a QB, it will be in a wildcat. That's what he was born to play. At heart he's a big, tough running back who can pull up and throw down the field as well as take off with the ball. Compare him to Brad Smith or Ronnie Brown. He's probably not as fast as those guys, but he's tougher than either and less injury-prone (so far).

The Penn State QB, Darryl Clark, is cut from a similar mold, but he's a better pro passer than Tebow.

Posted by: Samson151 | January 28, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

there is a reading comprehension problem up here and/or an over willingness to argue.

Anyone who tries to force their religion on someone else is a j erk. If you have a problem with that statement you are a j erk.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | January 28, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Weezie, isn't that what I said?

My point was that the Welkers of the world (insert Flutie, insert other misfit hard worker...) can perform if given a chance by someone who understands how to use them.

I'm no Tebow fan. Can't stand Gators (Spurrier...shudder).

But dismissing them outright (Gators OR hard-workers) is often a mistake. I'm not saying he's going to light it up. But Tebow will get a chance somewhere, I bet.

Reggie White comment applicable to R2L wonks in NFL.

btw - you can be both pro-choice and anti-abortion. Personally, I have no idea where his moral position lies. I guess I'll see in the ad.

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 28, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Moe,
Its Tebow's politics that irresponsibly lead to the actives of others you complain about.

The anti-sex movement is about not teaching, not educating.

You leave people ignorant and they will do that kind of dumb stuff, they will be irresponsible. I mean sure some of it has to do with their own station in life as a celebrity, but as resent data has shown, ever since we started preaching abstinence only in the schools teen pregnancy has gone up.

We have to be realistic about our humanity, teach kids that there are shades of gray and teach them to be smart.

Because knowing, is half the battle.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 28, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

right, nobody knows what a condom is in today's society and its the fault of those who preach abstinence.........

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 28, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Anyone who tries to force their religion on someone else is a j erk. If you have a problem with that statement you are a j erk.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | January 28, 2010 2:04 PM

Here pabrian is trying to force his opinion on the rest of us. I wonder what that makes him?

Posted by: League-Source | January 28, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse

I've never understood the "Best Player Available" vs "Need" draft debate. How can you possibly say ONE player is the best possible choice at any point in the draft? Teams get it wrong over and over again. Just look at the number of first rounds busts - clearly NOT the best player available for that pick.

I do think it is possible to identify the best GROUP of 5-7 players at a spot in the draft. From that group, I think it makes sense to decide which one will be the best fit and have the most impact. Under that scenario, you are doing both.


Posted by: edvar

Props to a well thought out post on draft picks.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 28, 2010 2:09 PM | Report abuse

That's not exactly accurate, Al. It's called abstinence education for a reason.

I'm not exactly in favor of it in place of traditional 'sex-ed'. But it does make sense to discuss BOTH paradigms.

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 28, 2010 2:09 PM | Report abuse

The Penn State QB, Darryl Clark, is cut from a similar mold, but he's a better pro passer than Tebow.

Posted by: Samson151 | January 28, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Darryl Clark throws so many wounded ducks Peta is protesting.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 28, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse

right, nobody knows what a condom is in today's society and its the fault of those who preach abstinence.........

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 28, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

I understand some states wont let you buy a condom under 18, and some stores just refuse to sell to people under 18.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 28, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse

What is accurate is that in all long multi-year studies that chart abstinence heavy or only education programs these things go up:

- pregnancy
-STDs
- rate of oral/anal sex higher and at lower grades

just sayin...

Posted by: chrislarry | January 28, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse

As opposed to just offering a wringing endorsement to under 18 yr olds doin' it, Al?

Whatever happened to the 'good 'ol days' of stealing them from your parents' night-stand...?

doh'p..or..maps..

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 28, 2010 2:15 PM | Report abuse

When I see Tebow line up to adopt 5 kids or pay more money to support welfare programs, I'll believe him.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | January 28, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse

I am against drafting Tim Tebow if it means we'll be constantly discussing sex education in schools up here

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 28, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse

whatever happened to the good old days of saran wrap and a rubber-band?

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 28, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse

dam....sorry i chimed.....never feed the creepiness factor...tebow is an azz, but on SB Sunday a cool 2.5$ buys you 45 seconds to say your piece.

Posted by: chrislarry | January 28, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Here's what I learned in sex ed circa 1989:

The best way to not get preggers or STDs is to not have sex but if you're going to do it, you should use a condom.

Still makes sense to today. Why are we teaching one or the other?

Posted by: Original_etrod | January 28, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

"I am against drafting Tim Tebow if it means we'll be constantly discussing sex education in schools up here

Posted by: zcezcest1 "

this from a dude who spent two days debating bunk bed placement on aircraft carriers...

Posted by: chrislarry | January 28, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

look there are a lot of pro lifers that want to make abortion illegal, that would be forcing a religious belief onto people who don't share that religion or belief. Its amazing that some of you aren't understanding this.

Some of these pro lifers would even make abortion illegal in the case of rape or incest.

Each individual has the right to have their own opinion and tebow isn't forcing his opinion on anyone.

Pro choicers aren't forcing anyone to have an abortion, conversely many pro lifers want to FORCE people to have babies, based on a relgious belief. This is un effing American.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | January 28, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

whatever happened to the good old days of saran wrap and a rubber-band?

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 28, 2010 2:17 PM

saran wrap? I thought it was aluminum foil. Boy saran wrap would have been a lot better.

Posted by: League-Source | January 28, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Hmmm, sports pages, football column, and...you people end up talking about condoms??!! Get a life!! (oops)
So he made a commercial, so WTF do you care?
So now "the other side" has a chance to make a commercial. So?? Just watch and enjoy the game, idiots!
BTW, Reid, any other players practicing?? Happen to notice anybody else out there you can write about?? Geeeezz!!!

Posted by: scmonty1 | January 28, 2010 2:25 PM | Report abuse

NO WAY would I want a virgin to be the REDSKINS QB.

C'mon...let's be honest....when you are growing up girls/sex are enough of a distraction for regular guys who have to work for it.

Now imagine if you will....a virgin NFL quarterback in a premiere franchise with tons of loyal adoring female fans.

No way...no how should he be a redskin.

Posted by: GoonieGooGoo | January 28, 2010 2:26 PM | Report abuse

I think we should ban commercials altogether.

These preachy corporations keep trying to force me to buy their products! Isn't this America?!?

Posted by: CByrd1 | January 28, 2010 2:26 PM | Report abuse

This is what Tebow wants.....And this is why I don't want him....

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 28, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

I firmly believe that the Skins will try to draft Tim Tebow. Shanahan has gone down to Florida U even before he became to the Redskins. If you notice, Shanahan has had nothing but "gunslingers" as quarterbacks since he's been a head coach and he likes quarterbacks who love the game. I think he will do what it takes to get Tim. Time will tell.

Posted by: tryumpfant | January 28, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

word 4th....that and he wont be that good....

Posted by: chrislarry | January 28, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

some other stuff I don't like about Tebow

-uses more hair gel than cast of "Jersey Shore"

-that he has a plaque of a speech he gave on Florida's campus

-how he plays QB.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | January 28, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

ls, how am I forcing my opinion? Please explain. I think you are an I diot, because you can't understand my comment and they aren't complex.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | January 28, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

So, people PAID to assess talent think it would be better to take Tebow, a very limited QB, than a legitimate TE or H Back?

That sounds like a really *not smart* idea.

That would almost be like picking a QB Coach to be your Head Coach.

Although, I'm sure, from what we've seen of Tim Tebow, that he's an excellent blocker, has great hands, and can stand up to the repeated abuse his body will take as a TE or an H Back. Not to mention his blocking techniques are fundamentally sound and he knows when to switch the ball to the other side.

Even discussing this is absurd.

Not that there isn't a VERY slight chance it could work.

But with all the TE and H Backs with their games on film, why would a team with such needs even THINK of Tebow?

Posted by: Thinker_ | January 28, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

The way I relate to the hard-core pro-lifer is this:

If there was someone going around murdering babies, I'd want any possible resource going to stopping that person.

So, I can disagree with them on their position; when life starts, who chooses, etc. But I fervently respect their passion & desire to express it. They're trying to stop what they understand as murder. It's actually quite rational.

I repeat - I am pro-choice. I just don't agree w/ abortion as contraception, or breeding choice.

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 28, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

No Tebow. If the team is going to go for a QB after they draft Okung or Williams, I would be perfectly happy with Tony Pike. I'd let him sit for a year whilst on the Kirstie Alley diet, and then let him play after I had built a wall of an offensive line.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 28, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

I see a team taking a chance on Tebow like we did with Colt Brennan. If he drops... A LOT, they might grab him just for sharts and giggles.

Or, for instance, to be used as a goal line gadget guy like Kordell Stewart.

Or, for instance, if some team starts running the option on a regular basis. Like if Spurrier comes back.

Posted by: Thinker_ | January 28, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Id be all bout taking Selvish if he falls far enough. Kid has only played on the O-line since college. He was recruited as a TE. Put some muscle on this guy and he could beast in Shannys system.


On Tuesday, ESPN.com's Scouts Inc. team had this to say Insider about West Virginia offensive lineman Selvish Capers:

"Capers was the best offensive lineman on the South team on Day 2, showing good mobility when getting to the second linebacker as a run blocker. He also played with balance and showed good lateral mobility with his feet. During 1-on-1 drills, Capers anchored well and held his ground, at one point just erasing East Carolina DE C.J. Wilson on consecutive plays. He is not overly explosive and will have trouble at times with bigger bull rushers, and Capers needs to get stronger in the lower body, but he will be a good fit for a zone blocking scheme in which the emphasis is on getting into space and taking sound angles to defenders because he plays under control and has good feet."

Posted by: Stu27 | January 28, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Bottom line, God hates sex. Always has, always will. So it's a constant battle between him and teenagers and they're horny as hell. If Tebow wants to get up there and say he's cool with just BJ's and anal sex that's his that's fine by me.

Posted by: mack1 | January 28, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

"I am against drafting Tim Tebow if it means we'll be constantly discussing sex education in schools up here

Posted by: zcezcest1 "

this from a dude who spent two days debating bunk bed placement on aircraft carriers...

Posted by: chrislarry |

YUP

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 28, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

lmao@mack awesmoe!

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 28, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

So Pro-CHOICE people are MAD that Tebow's Mom CHOSE life?

How dare she!

Posted by: filmchis | January 28, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

I'll come back when there's a player worth talking about that the Skins might actually draft. And Clark from Penn State sucks..

Posted by: ga8085 | January 28, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Bottom line, God hates sex.

Posted by: mack1

God doesn't like his name screamed?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 28, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

ls, how am I forcing my opinion? Please explain. I think you are an I diot, because you can't understand my comment and they aren't complex.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | January 28, 2010 2:30 PM

What do you call it when you're berating other people and calling them names -- j erk, i diot -- because they don't agree with you?

Posted by: League-Source | January 28, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

I love how a commercial that NO ONE has seen is FORCING its opinion on them!!!

Posted by: filmchis | January 28, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

In my mind, I'm probably the biggest sex maniac you ever saw.

-Holden Caulfield

Posted by: 4-12 | January 28, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Don't need ANOTHER certifiable basket case with questionable talent and sanctimonious attitude trying to play QB for us... we already have one too many.

Posted by: Vic1 | January 28, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

whatever happened to the good old days of saran wrap and a rubber-band?

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 28, 2010 2:17 PM

saran wrap? I thought it was aluminum foil. Boy saran wrap would have been a lot better.

Posted by: League-Source | January 28, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

LOL! Ahhh, can't decide what's worse: Social/ethical opinion debating, or crazy nazi america hating. Where's Rotfrau when you need him? We all need a little Rotfrau in our lives.

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | January 28, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Let's also make it clear that Tebow isn't telling anyone what to do. He's saying it's his choice not to have an abortion. He's not telling you not to get one. Ans it makes sense. Guy's a Heisman winner. So he's going to have blue-chip semen and most likely blue chip offspring. No sense in wasting any of that. Now if he was just some loser, well who really cares what he/she does?

Posted by: mack1 | January 28, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

So he's going to have blue-chip semen and most likely blue chip offspring. No sense in wasting any of that.

Posted by: mack1 | January 28, 2010 2:43 PM

Wasting it? What's he doing with it? Flushing it down the toilet? Washing it down the shower drain? Packing it in toilet tissue?

Posted by: League-Source | January 28, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

I see a team taking a chance on Tebow like we did with Colt Brennan. If he drops... A LOT, they might grab him just for sharts and giggles.

Or, for instance, to be used as a goal line gadget guy like Kordell Stewart.

Or, for instance, if some team starts running the option on a regular basis. Like if Spurrier comes back.

Posted by: Thinker_ | January 28, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

If he was a FA, I'd agree. But we only have 5 picks in draft, and have too many needs. I say let some other team pick him as a project.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 28, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

There is some humor in this blog, ya' know:

"Darryl Clark throws so many wounded ducks Peta is protesting."

"Bottom line, God hates sex... God doesn't like his name screamed?"

"...whatever happened to the good old days of saran wrap and a rubber-band?"

The funniest?

We go with the saran-wrap, rubba' bad quip as the image of a one-eyed snake in wrinkled clear plastic brings back memories of the end of that movie "The Crying Game."

Like the "Moe reviews Obama's Speech" post, it's tasteless, vulgar, and goes way past the line of decency.

'Cuz for some of us, that line doesn't exist.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 28, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

And I am pro-choice.

Abortion is terrible, but it's not really up to me to decide... That's why the landmark case is called Roe v. Wade and not US Government v. Jane Doe.

It's also a bit difficult for me to get "The Fervor" going about fetuses when born people are dropping like flies in Africa, living like cavemen in Afghanistan, and being used as a weapons delivery system in many coincidentally Muslim parts of the world.

Not to mention Haiti.

Anyone think they needed a larger population?
I'm really more concerned with how people are living than how many never make it to being born.

I wish I could make a commercial! "Hey, America! I'm here to get you to focus on the Unborn! Forget about the people all around you, I want to talk about the ones carried in the Uteruses of young, impoverished females on the wrong side of town. We need these women to reproduce at a much higher rate... so we can increase the deficit by building more and more prisons. These fetuses, many of whom, if born, will never know their father, and will have many siblings who also do not know their respective fathers... Whose mother can get a job, if she's lucky, at Target, making $10/hr, and either pay for daycare... or NOT. All I'm saying, America, is that we need to force her to keep that baby, and all of them, but, of course, we can't let her receive "government hand-outs," like foodstamps, health care for her kids, or even affordable housing.

Once that kid is born, we dont give 2 squats about him, other than to make sure OUR fancy kids never have to associate with him."

Anyway, I wouldn't want the Government telling me I have to deliver a baby, especially if I was raped, or 16 years old.

Especially since they certainly don't seem too anxious to help once "the baby" grows into "a young man" or "thug" or "skeezer" or "crack-head" or "prostitute" as they say.

Posted by: Thinker_ | January 28, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

To the two or three of you who think your political opinions are the only ones that are appropriate, let me remind you of this: Pro-Life is not the same as anti-choice.

Tebow's commercial is pro-life, intended to be an inspirational 30-second story of his mother's own "choice". If you're familiar with the ad, it doesn't attempt to force a belief or restriction on anyone, and never advocates takomg a woman's choice away.

Now sharing one's religious beliefs in such a public forum as a superbowl ad isn't really my cup of tea, but I respect the kid for believing in something strongly enough to want to share it.

Posted by: RambleOn | January 28, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

cant stand preachy-overly-religious ppl. Its quite annoying. Tebows whole explanation as to why he's pro-life is retarded. He'll fail as an NFL QB too. But some team will waste a pick on him.

Posted by: VaBeachBlitz

THEN WHY DON'T YOU ENLIGHTEN US WITH YOUR WISDOM OF WHY HIS EXPLANATION OF BEING PRO-LIF IS SO RETARDED? Or is it Pro-Life that you don't agree?

Posted by: EinVB | January 28, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

How about we keep it to whether we agree with him doing the ad and not the whole pro life/choice argument. We aren't here to cure the worlds ills peoples.

Posted by: Gweez | January 28, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

ALL YOU GUYS ARE DI@KHEADS! Tim Tebow is a stand up guy and a class act. So what if he can't handle a snap from center, or bang that super hot girlfriend of his.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 28, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

THINKER_ I just solved the world's problems......ABORT EVERYONE!!

Great Plan.....YOU FIRST!!!

Posted by: filmchis | January 28, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

word gweez

Posted by: chrislarry | January 28, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

In my mind, I'm probably the biggest sex maniac you ever saw.

-Holden Caulfield

Posted by: 4-12 | January 28, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse


RIP JD Sallinger :(

Posted by: Original_etrod | January 28, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, pro Life is good, but it's often code for "narrow-minded fanatic."

If Tebow is there to encourage young women to take abortion more seriously, then Great!

But, again, it's kinda ironic that Pro-Lifers like to talk about the CHOICE they had to make. So, maybe they're happy with their decision. Maybe they should be glad they had that CHOICE.

For every Tim Tebow's mom, there are 20 women in the hood who raised kids who are either burdened with children themselves or in jail.

I'd hate to see the pro Choice commercial that goes into the hood to talk to women and ask them if they are glad they had a bunch of kids they couldn't afford.

But, awareness is important. I just don't think Tebow is paying for the commercial, so I tend to question the motivation of those who are bank rolling it and using him for their agenda... which is, of course, to win back seats in Congress.

For starters.

Posted by: Thinker_ | January 28, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Abort your mother, you dink.

That's what I'm saying: No Love for fellow man. only for the unborn. once they hit the ground, "F* em, right?"

Typical Conservative Nazi.

Anyone wants to abort me, I would be more than happy if you'd try. I could use the stress release of bashing some dork's head in, especially with the alibi of "self defense."

Posted by: Thinker_ | January 28, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Shouldn't you be avoiding the perils of "The Internet?"

I heard in church that it's evil, you know.

Posted by: Thinker_ | January 28, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

BTG, he can have his opinion. Even if its a retarded one like pro life. But Big Foots Possy hits the nail on the head. Keep it out of the SB!

Posted by: VaBeachBlitz | January 28, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse
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You must be very insecure if this commercial would offend you that much.

Do you have kids? Ever seen an ultrasound of a baby in the womb? Ever seen an aborted fetus or how abortions are performed?

Posted by: EinVB | January 28, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Be on later. You muppets have fun insulting yourselves.

Posted by: Gweez | January 28, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Abort your mother, you dink.

That's what I'm saying: No Love for fellow man. only for the unborn. once they hit the ground, "F* em, right?"

Typical Conservative Nazi.

Anyone wants to abort me, I would be more than happy if you'd try. I could use the stress release of bashing some dork's head in, especially with the alibi of "self defense."

Posted by: Thinker_

Am I the only one who appreciates the irony of this being posted by a person with the moniker 'Thinker' ?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 28, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

whatever happened to the good old days of saran wrap and a rubber-band?

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 28, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse
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David Carradine took it too far.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | January 28, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Thinker,
Hold on... Now Pro-Life people are Conservative Nazi's? Ha... Isn't that an Oxy-moron... You are twisted something fiercely.

Do you understand the words you are spewing out?

Posted by: EinVB | January 28, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Am I the only one who appreciates the irony of this being posted by a person with the moniker 'Thinker' ?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 28, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse


NOT AT ALL! ROFLMAO!

Posted by: EinVB | January 28, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Now if only Pelosi and Reid's moms had a choice, if only.

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | January 28, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

evb, I mean, obviously he doesn't.....

time to get some work done....and check PFT...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 28, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

ALL YOU GUYS ARE DI@KHEADS! Tim Tebow is a stand up guy and a class act. So what if he can't handle a snap from center, or bang that super hot girlfriend of his.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 28, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

hahaha, aren't you the same dude that was trying to protect Zoron? Or are you making fun of that guy? Either way, it's all funny. RI turns into an unstoppable beast in the offseason. Yikes. Maury Povich vs. RI. RI wins.

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | January 28, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

When I think of Tebow, I remember the last two University of Florida QBs we had -- Danny Wuerffel and Shane Matthews. Then I think "Day ja voo all over again!"

Posted by: League-Source | January 28, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

As far as the preachiness, if you don't like it, you can cough up $2.5 mil and buy a Superbowl add of your own.

CBS will gladly take your money.

Posted by: Original_etrod | January 28, 2010 1:57 PM |
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Not true. CBS rejected an ad from the United Church of Christ.
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | January 28, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

think of Tebow, I remember the last two University of Florida QBs we had -- Danny Wuerffel and Shane Matthews. Then I think "Redskins Offseason"

Posted by: League-Source | January 28, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse
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Fixed

Posted by: mattsoundworld | January 28, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Tim Tebow has the only thing a QB needs to have: Balls... Thought us Skins fans woulda missed havin' a guy with a pair by now. And if you think Tebow lasts past the first round than a bunch of teams blowing smoke did their job on you.

Posted by: JHvet1 | January 28, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Go teabag James Dobson you pawn.

Stay away from the Skins.

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | January 28, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

"David Carradine took it too far."

Yeah, what's so shocking, Grasshopper, is that that Kung Fu dude Carridine used his hands for more than just snatching pebbles and beans.

I heard he was a jerk.

And he died because of it.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 28, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse

I'd like Tebow more if he was more like John Daly and less like ...

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | January 28, 2010 12:58 PM

Agreed. Whether he wants to play QB, is willing to play H-back, TE, or FB ... the real question is whether he can play offensive line? And if not, whether John Daly is available for that job.

Posted by: dcsween | January 28, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Tim Tebow has the only thing a QB needs to have: Balls...

Posted by: JHvet1 | January 28, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse
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I don't forsee a big turnout for your QB camp

Posted by: mattsoundworld | January 28, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

It has been a long time honored rule to keep this stuff off the superbowl, this thread is why.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 28, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Tim Tebow has the only thing a QB needs to have: Balls... Thought us Skins fans woulda missed havin' a guy with a pair by now. And if you think Tebow lasts past the first round than a bunch of teams blowing smoke did their job on you.

Posted by: JHvet1 | January 28, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

so you'll admit his mechanics are terrible, and his ability to play a pro-style offense or read defenses is questionable.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | January 28, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

In my mind, I'm probably the biggest sex maniac you ever saw.

-Holden Caulfield

Posted by: 4-12 | January 28, 2010 2:42 PM

And, as far are you all know, I am the best looking guy you'll ever read.

Posted by: dcsween | January 28, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

You know what they say... T 'n' A ain't worth your DNA...

Posted by: Rypien11 | January 28, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

I hope the rest of the league becomes convinced that the Skins are focused on drafting a QB, either Clausen or Bradford ... and is so convinced, that they are willing to trade up to get their guy. Gimme that extra pick and keep Colt Brennan and we'll call it a day ... provided the trade is for that team's first round pick next year ... so we can get Jake Locker (or even Mallett).

Posted by: dcsween | January 28, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Fyi a quick RIP for two of americas great authors who died yesterday.

Salinger, and Zinn you were great writers and just above average americans.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 28, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

I hope the rest of the league becomes convinced that the Skins are focused on drafting a QB, either Clausen or Bradford ... and is so convinced, that they are willing to trade up to get their guy. Gimme that extra pick and keep Colt Brennan and we'll call it a day ... provided the trade is for that team's first round pick next year ... so we can get Jake Locker (or even Mallett).

Posted by: dcsween | January 28, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse
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So if we get Locker or Mallett, who cares what we do with Brennan? It's not like he's got some demonstrated amazing 'off the bench' ability.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | January 28, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Based on my personal and in-depth review of (other scout wannabes blogs from the Senior Bowl), I have determined and am 100% convinced that the sky would fall if the Skins drafted the absolutely-known-going-to-fail Tim Tebow and/or fail to draft Mike Iupat and Myron Rolle. I don't know why its even worth discussing this. This is plain fact and cannot be plainer. Don't MAKE me find a link to prove how plain and factual this is.

Posted by: dcsween | January 28, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

So if we get Locker or Mallett, who cares what we do with Brennan? It's not like he's got some demonstrated amazing 'off the bench' ability.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | January 28, 2010 3:56 PM

Drop him (after sticking him like a sock into the mouths of everyone screaming for a Jason Campbell replacement).

I know everyone in high school thought Catcher in the Rye was the greatest book ever. I didn't read it till my 30s. Meh ... I've read better. Caulfield was a spoiled chump and a d!ck. Agree to disagree.

Posted by: dcsween | January 28, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Tebow's Anti-Abortion Commercial...

This is why I do NOT want Tebow. The last time a right wing "values" nut job came into a leadership role in our nation's capital he just about destroyed the country (as well as a few other countries while he and Dick were at it)

We need LESS insanity in DC, not more!

Posted by: jgarrisn | January 28, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Whats all the love for Lupati about? We need tackles like the Titanic needs headlights.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | January 28, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

We need LESS insanity in DC, not more!

Posted by: jgarrisn | January 28, 2010 4:04 PM

While I have no views on your Tebow thoughts, I have to disagree with you on this. I'm pro-insanity.

Posted by: dcsween | January 28, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

The sky would fall if we drafted Tebow because God would be so disgusted that this rabid little moralist tea-bagger pawn was becoming a Redskin.

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | January 28, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Drop him (after sticking him like a sock into the mouths of everyone screaming for a Jason Campbell replacement).

Posted by: dcsween | January 28, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse
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Love it.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | January 28, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Anyone who tries to force their religion on someone else is a j erk. If you have a problem with that statement you are a j erk.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | January 28, 2010 2:04 PM

Here pabrian is trying to force his opinion on the rest of us. I wonder what that makes him?

Posted by: League-Source |

Why not take a pole? Make sure one of the choices is "He's an opinion forcer."

Posted by: TheCork | January 28, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Whats all the love for Iupati about? We need tackles like the Titanic needs headlights.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | January 28, 2010 4:06 PM

The Senior Bowl buzz is that Iupati is moving up into the first round faster than everyone in recent memory. Rod Marinelli said something like how Iupati is 'clearly' the best player down there ... and even going into it, the talk was that he could play at any position on the line. The only question was whether a WAC player could have the chops to play against guys from the big schools ... and he apparently answered that question with his practice so far this week.

Posted by: dcsween | January 28, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Correction ... Big Sky conference

Posted by: dcsween | January 28, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone here know Okung's views on abortion? I sure hope Shanny remembers to ask him at the Combine.

Posted by: closer44 | January 28, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

And I'm upset by these dudes who leave children in their sexual wake like so much flotsam from a wandering cruise ship.

POSTED BY: Mistamoe

I think, technically, they'd be Jetsam.

Posted by: TheCork | January 28, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

I know everyone in high school thought Catcher in the Rye was the greatest book ever. I didn't read it till my 30s. Meh ... I've read better. Caulfield was a spoiled chump and a d!ck. Agree to disagree.

Posted by: dcsween | January 28, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse
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My cheese wagon had the misfortune of having a pair of those neo-hippie theater freaks who did nothing but discuss the intricacies of books like the aforementioned classic.

I had alot of dreams involving chain saws and bloody bus seats.

But then I had the misfortune of playing poker with 3 MIT rats who casually dismissed an entire generation of American writers as amateurs, and suddenly understood what Einstein meant when he said, "the only thing that interferes with ... learning is ... education"

And now I can't play poker.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | January 28, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone here know Okung's views on abortion? I sure hope Shanny remembers to ask him at the Combine.

Posted by: closer44 | January 28, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Thats not the point, the point is they are football players and their views on abortion should be kept to themselves. they should not be on national TV talking about it.

Now I happen to work on that issue as well as many many many others. Do you see my company paying millions or thousands of dollars for me to spout off an opinion on TV about what football players should do? I mean sure I am on the clock right now and blogging...

Posted by: alex35332 | January 28, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

I know everyone in high school thought Catcher in the Rye was the greatest book ever. I didn't read it till my 30s. Meh ... I've read better. Caulfield was a spoiled chump and a d!ck. Agree to disagree.

Posted by: dcsween | January 28, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse
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Tim Tebow just took out a Super Bowl ad to ask you not to read Catcher in the Rye.

Posted by: closer44 | January 28, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Anyone wants to abort me, I would be more than happy if you'd try. I could use the stress release of bashing some dork's head in, especially with the alibi of "self defense."

Posted by: Thinker_ |

A little unclear on the concept there, Thinker_. Try to keep up.

Because, y'see the deal is, it's too late to abort you. Society's loss. Who else would there be to make empty threats of violencve behind the cloak of anonymity?

Posted by: TheCork | January 28, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

I know everyone in high school thought Catcher in the Rye was the greatest book ever. I didn't read it till my 30s. Meh ... I've read better. Caulfield was a spoiled chump and a d!ck. Agree to disagree.

Posted by: dcsween |

So by all means. Tell us when you met him.

Posted by: TheCork | January 28, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Because, y'see the deal is, it's too late to abort you. Society's loss. Who else would there be to make empty threats of violencve behind the cloak of anonymity?

Posted by: TheCork | January 28, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Bill O'Rielly with a bag on his head?

Posted by: alex35332 | January 28, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

hahaha, aren't you the same dude that was trying to protect Zoron? Or are you making fun of that guy? Either way, it's all funny. RI turns into an unstoppable beast in the offseason. Yikes. Maury Povich vs. RI. RI wins.

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | January 28, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Yeah I'm just cracking on that Kurt Shanaman dude.That was the best line ever,"ALL YOU GUYS ARE DI@KHEADS!". I love it

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 28, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

I wish I had wheels on the bottom of my feet at all times. There, I said it.

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | January 28, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

corky, you've got to write it slower for him to understand it.....here, I'll show you:

Because............y'see............... the............. deal.................. is.............., it's........... too...................

also, thinker struggles with words over 5 letters, so please adjust accordingly....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 28, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Un-correction ... WAC

Posted by: dcsween | January 28, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

"Anyone wants to abort me, I would be more than happy if you'd try."


I've been through this, pal.

And I got the hangar marks round my neck to prove it.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 28, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Thats not the point, the point is they are football players and their views on abortion should be kept to themselves. they should not be on national TV talking about it.


Posted by: alex35332 | January 28, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Agreed. For the most part professional athletes keep their political views to themselves while they are playing sports.

Tebow is the first active athlete I remember offering commentary on a social issue like this in a commercial.

Lines were crossed is all I'm saying.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | January 28, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

... a Super Bowl ad to ask you not to read Catcher in the Rye.

Posted by: closer44 | January 28, 2010 4:22 PM

You had me at "not read" ... books are for chumps.

Posted by: dcsween | January 28, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: dcsween |

So by all means. Tell us when you met him.

Posted by: TheCork | January 28, 2010 4:25 PM

Somewhere after page 1.

Posted by: dcsween | January 28, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

I have an older sister. I was very young and remember one of her teenage outbursts at my mother that ended with something like "I DIDN'T ASK TO BE BORN!"

My mother was doing the dishes at the time and responded, sort of under her breath, with something like "If you would have asked, I would have said no."

Posted by: dcsween | January 28, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

The Senior Bowl buzz is that Iupati is moving up into the first round faster than everyone in recent memory. Rod Marinelli said something like how Iupati is 'clearly' the best player down there ... and even going into it, the talk was that he could play at any position on the line. The only question was whether a WAC player could have the chops to play against guys from the big schools ... and he apparently answered that question with his practice so far this week.

Posted by: dcsween | January 28, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse
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This is the same Senior Bowl buzz that brought us today's post, mind you.

But ok, so if he can play LT and is the best player at the Senior combine, what's that? Good for 5th on the list of T prospects?

Last years best T at the Senior Bowl was William Beatty, and he fell to the 2nd round and was rated about #5 of a weak tackle class.

This tackle class has some pretty solid beefcake up there, so... I dunno. We'll see I guess

Posted by: mattsoundworld | January 28, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Thats not the point, the point is they are football players and their views on abortion should be kept to themselves. they should not be on national TV talking about it.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 28, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse
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Please. He's an athlete selling something. Not exactly a new concept. I don't give sh!t what kind of underwear Michael Jordan wears or what credit card Peyton Manning uses (think he pays off his bill every month or carries a balance?). Still, they get on TV and tell me. It's what they do. Just because it's a social/moral/political issue doesn't matter to me.

Maybe it's a matter of semantics. If you're saying "you don't think he should..." Well, then that's your opinion, and that's fine. If you're saying "he should not be allowed to...", then I'll have to strongly disagree with that.

It does bug me that CBS has turned down "controversial" advocacy ads in the past. They claim they've changed their policy, but it smells fishy. But my problem there is with the network, not Tebow.

Posted by: closer44 | January 28, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

LOL @ Alex...

I agree with the previous poster, Tebow is Scott Frost, except Tebow was playing for an even better team. He will join the line of UF QB's Leak, Mathews, Wuerffel and Spurrier who were NFL zeros.

Rex Grossman at least had an NFL caliber arm, but he has an UF caliber brain. Tebow seems to have a weak arm to go with his UF caliber brain.

Posted by: dpc2003 | January 28, 2010 4:40 PM | Report abuse

One of the blogs that watches who teams are watching says the Skins spent some time with Koa Misi, a DE from Utah who projects to be a pass-rushing OLB in 4-3 or an OLB in a 3-4.

Posted by: dcsween | January 28, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Tebow is the first active athlete I remember offering commentary on a social issue like this in a commercial.

Lines were crossed is all I'm saying.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | January 28, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse
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The playoffs had a spot with two Haitian players face timing for funds. Maybe this is the political right's middle finger to the world trying for to undo God's work in Haiti.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | January 28, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Tim Tebow impregnates sinks.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 28, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

mattsoundworld, Iupati's college career has been mostly at guard ... I think Skins could use a new guard as well (although I think I may have stuck myself into the Save Mike Williams camp). The buzz hasn't moved Iupati to the top of the first round yet, just moved him out of the "second round and possible first round" and into the "definitie first round" range.

I think my point is that I'd gladly take two second rounders for a #4 pick (and that I'd gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today). And my second round pick would be for Myron Rolle (free safety ... Florida State ... the season before this one ... he was a Rhodes Scholar this year instead ... and another wowing guy in Mobile). All of which I think would require a trade, for example, of an above average every down DE in a 4-3 (say, Andre Carter) for an above average left tackle.

Posted by: dcsween | January 28, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Tebow must have botched that snap because of the excessive Vaseline Intensive Care on his throwing hand. That stuff can get slippery

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 28, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

That Tim Tebow is confident in his ability as a QB is wonderful.

How this helps his chances of matriculating to the NFL...

I have no idea.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 28, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: dcsween | January 28, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

I'd be surrpsied if we could move Carter for a second rounder. I'd love to.

Maybe the Bengals would want him but I bet they wouldn't want his contract.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 28, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

word gweez

Posted by: chrislarry | January 28, 2010 3:01 PM |

Double Word.

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 28, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Bradford - Can't SHOULDER the burden of being in NFL QB. Got DESTROYED by TEBOW in NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME.

Jimmy Claussen - The guy makes a mean Pickle, but that doesn't make him a Franchise QB. He'll fall in the draft like the the last Notre Dame Meteor.

Colt McCoy - Colt couldn't last a QTR against a SEC Defense let alone an NFL one. Plus, I think there is a rule about having 2 QBs named COLT.

Jake Locker - A LOCK to play in WASHINGTON this year.....for the HUSKIES.

Tony Pike - Umm yea......kinda got DESTROYED by TEBOW in Sugar Bowl.

I'll take TIM TEBOW!

Posted by: filmchis | January 28, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

I'll take TIM TEBOW!

Posted by: filmchis | January 28, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Me too

As an undrafted free agent

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | January 28, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

I'll take TIM TEBOW!

Posted by: filmchis | January 28, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Me too

As an undrafted free agent

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | January 28, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

11/7/09: Tony Dungy said he'd take Tim Tebow over any quarterback in the 2010 NFL Draft. Jon Gruden will as well. Someone will pluck Tebow off the board in the top 25.

10/10/09: Jacksonville owner Wayne Weaver said he would draft Tim Tebow come April. The Jaguars' No. 1 need right now is to fill seats. Tebow can do that, so even if he busts, he'll be a great draft pick financially.

5/10/09: Don't listen to me; Bill Parcells said "Tim Tebow won't be a top-five pick, but he'll be a top-10 pick." Jon Gruden, meanwhile, said Tebow would "revolutionize the game." If Pat White was drafted in Round 2, I think Tebow has a shot of getting drafted in the first round.

I got a feeling he'll be gone long before then.

Posted by: filmchis | January 28, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

As an undrafted free agent

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | January 28, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

I'm telling you guys, you're all sleeping on Mike Kafka. If he goes undrafted he definitely needs to come in to camp. This guy was winning ball games at Northwestern for crissakes!!!

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 28, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

I'd be surrpsied if we could move Carter for a second rounder. I'd love to.

Maybe the Bengals would want him but I bet they wouldn't want his contract.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 28, 2010 5:01 PM

I wasn't thinking about Carter for a draft pick. I was thinking about Carter for another player who is already in the league playing.

Posted by: dcsween | January 28, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

I got a feeling he'll be gone long before then.

Posted by: filmchis | January 28, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

I'm sure he will. I was joking about him being undrafted. I would just prefer if the Skins didn't pick him.

Minus the name and accolades he's a 3/4th round talent. At least according to reports from the Senior Bowl that I've read.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | January 28, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

I wasn't thinking about Carter for a draft pick. I was thinking about Carter for another player who is already in the league playing.

Posted by: dcsween | January 28, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Saints may have 2 left tackles next year so it is possible.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 28, 2010 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Wo ist Rottenfrau today?

Kommen Sie spiele

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 28, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

JR-It is Pro-Life not anti-abortion.

Posted by: 3rings | January 28, 2010 5:33 PM | Report abuse

Pat White revolutionize the game? Pat White had 21 carries for 81 yards before he was KO'ed. QB's who run are QB's on the IR.

So yeah, if you think of a "starting QB" as a guy who plays about 1/2 the season. Then a guy like White, or Tebow, makes sense.

Try getting 15 carries a game out of the QB position, and you'll need to have at least 2 starters, probably 3 at that position. Tebow LEAD the Gators in carries!

There is so much time and effort put into the passing game, that I can't imagine a team putting that kind of effort into a guy that will be beat to smithereens in 5 seasons, while finishing maybe 1 of them.

There's a reason dropback QB's dominate the NFL.

Posted by: dpc2003 | January 28, 2010 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Man... all the haters... I'm sure New England said, "Aw we got Bledsoe... why are we drafting this bum Brady who is too small & looks weak"


PREDICTION:

TIM TEBOW WILL HAVE A BETTER CAREER THAN JASON CAMPBELL... Everyone here is sleeping on his leadership abilities... This kid is an all-world human being & will put forth the effort, desire, & study time necessary to be successful.

This just in... when Tebow is drafted, he will have already had a better career than Jamarcus "take the money & eat" Russell.

Posted by: tony325 | January 28, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Minus the name and accolades he's a 3/4th round talent. At least according to reports from the Senior Bowl that I've read.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | January 28, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Is the 3/4th round before or after the 1st round?

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | January 28, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse

have an older sister. I was very young and remember one of her teenage outbursts at my mother that ended with something like "I DIDN'T ASK TO BE BORN!"

My mother was doing the dishes at the time and responded, sort of under her breath, with something like "If you would have asked, I would have said no."

Posted by: dcsween | January 28, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

I made the mistake of saying this to my dad once. He said "it wasn't my choice either".

Posted by: SMACK1 | January 28, 2010 5:48 PM | Report abuse

Saints may have 2 left tackles next year so it is possible.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 28, 2010 5:26 PM

Either Jamaal Brown or Jermon Bushrod would do just fine as the LT of the future here.

Posted by: dcsween | January 28, 2010 6:00 PM | Report abuse

Saints may have 2 left tackles next year so it is possible.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 28, 2010 5:26 PM

Either Jamaal Brown or Jermon Bushrod would do just fine as the LT of the future here.

Posted by: dcsween | January 28, 2010 6:00 PM | Report abuse

I don't know if Andre Carter would represent equal value, from the Saints position - but we have suckered them in trades before, so anything is possible? Maybe we could throw in Dirty30 as well, I'm sure he'd be a fan favorite down there...

Posted by: PDXskin | January 28, 2010 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Who in the hell besides Vinny Cerrato would give us a 2nd Round Pick for Andre Carter!!!!!!!!!


I think Tebow is a born winner, but no way I'm giving him the keys to my franchise day one...

"All that leadership stuff is overrated"

Posted by: rickyroge | January 28, 2010 6:35 PM | Report abuse

I sure hope the front office knows that this team is in the situation it is in because they have`nt drafted o-linemen in so long that when they did dirt was new! The Redskins NEEDS OFFENSIVE LINEMEN !! Stop all the Tebow talk!!

Posted by: vexed50verizonnet | January 28, 2010 6:40 PM | Report abuse

If only Ms. Tebow would have aborted him. Then this NAMBLA convention wouldnt exist.

Posted by: VaBeachBlitz

After reading your posts I wish Mom VaBeachBlitz, had made a different CHOICE.

That's funny isn't it pro-choicer?

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | January 28, 2010 6:45 PM | Report abuse

It may surprise people but Mike Shanahan DOESN'T draft a lot of O-Lineman.

He's only used a high pick (1st-3rd round) on an O-Lineman 5 times in 14 drafts!

Posted by: filmchis | January 28, 2010 6:46 PM | Report abuse

strange how many liberals think nothing of all the infants being aborted, but howl louder than a stuck pig when a death-row inmate is put to death.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | January 28, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Civilized cultures do not execute criminals anymore than they wantonly abort fetuses. We should all aspire to a higher ideal, one with compassion as it's primary dictate.

A woman's right to choose is of central importance, although this right should not be considered absolute, nor without reasonable limits.

Empathic, responsible governance should be the norm, not the exception.

Posted by: Rotfrau | January 28, 2010 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Yet another example of depravity committed by one of America's sports stars:

Steven Jackson, running back of the St. Louis Rams, is accused by his ex-girlfriend of beating her until she was "bleeding heavily."

Ms. Harris was nine months pregnant at the time.

Harris says Jackson "forcibly grabbed my arm and flung me against the door" and "continued to shove me against the door until his nephew ... interceded and yelled, 'uncle, she has a baby, stop.'"

Posted by: Rotfrau | January 28, 2010 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Only time will tell. Who thought Joe Montana is a HOF QB at the time he was drafted?

Posted by: inva | January 28, 2010 7:49 PM | Report abuse

And yet another:

A transgender New Yorker has filed a $10 million sex assault suit against a former NFL player - and in a separate action is also suing the city, saying she was abused and humiliated by cops.

Angelina Mavilia's legal action against San Francisco 49ers cornerback Eric Green alleges he forcibly sodomized her.

The two met in a Scottsdale, Ariz., casino in early 2009 when Green still played for the Arizona Cardinals.

They went back to his condo, where Green, 27, sexually assaulted her, she charges. He then got "extremely agitated and threatening," according to court documents, and warned: "This never happened. You'd better not tell."

Posted by: Rotfrau | January 28, 2010 7:59 PM | Report abuse

In celebration of ProBowl week, I am requesting that all RI brethren visit YouTube to view Sean Taylor's hit on Sean Moorman (punter)....

Rest in Peace "Tarantula"!!!!


Posted by: rickyroge | January 28, 2010 8:10 PM | Report abuse

Hi!

Posted by: 72Redskins | January 28, 2010 8:15 PM | Report abuse

The hi was a test, my other post is being scrutinized by J.Reid. What's up with that?

Posted by: 72Redskins | January 28, 2010 8:18 PM | Report abuse

It may surprise people but Mike Shanahan DOESN'T draft a lot of O-Lineman.

He's only used a high pick (1st-3rd round) on an O-Lineman 5 times in 14 drafts!

Posted by: filmchis

Not sure when Shanahan got the power to do drafting in Denver. Did he get it right away? I don't know.

In any case, I broke out his drafts between 2000-2008. Of his 49 picks in rds 1-5, he picked 8 OL, or 16%. By comparison, if you look at the same stat for the top 4 teams of this era (Colts, Steelers, Pats and jints), you'll find they picked OL in rounds 1-5 (wait for it) ... 16% of the time.

fwiw, Bruce Allen, though I'm not sure how much influence he had at various times, was just above 20% in his OL picks.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 28, 2010 8:51 PM | Report abuse

The hi was a test, my other post is being scrutinized by J.Reid. What's up with that?

Posted by: 72Redskins

either get rid of the offending word or cut your post into smaller pieces. That thing about the blog owner reviewing it? Same chance you'll get your US senator to listen to you.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 28, 2010 8:54 PM | Report abuse

eh, whateves, I guess, I'm not that influenced by commercials....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 28, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

My grandma alwayz said never believe anything you see on TV. I alwayz responded but how would you know? You never watch TV.

`

F Tebow. but you pay for the time you deliver your jive. its all just benjamins for CBS.

Posted by: chrislarry | January 28, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse


After you began with F Tebow, I kinda expected a casual, yet extreme TOOL rhetoric, but naw you reached across the aisle. Well played. The boob-tube is plagued with TV ministries and if you don't practice religion, don't watch. Very simple. It's all about dead presidents.

AND

who watches/givs a damn bout commercials anyway? ever heard of TIVO? or Pu$$y?

Posted by: Vicc | January 28, 2010 9:07 PM | Report abuse

*Interesting*

Y'all R gonna make it easy for me 2nite...

How's this "4-14" AND "daggar" :


I notice that U
2 don't post here that often.
Does that make me LAST?

Posted by: Vicc | January 28, 2010 9:31 PM | Report abuse

The commercials during the Super Bowl, are often more interesting than the game itself.

That said, I'll be throwing rotten produce at my screen during Tebow's.

I wouldn't mind if the Skins drafted him if he became a born-again devotee of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

Posted by: alecw81 | January 28, 2010 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Tebow's Anti-Abortion Commercial...

This is why I do NOT want Tebow. The last time a right wing "values" nut job came into a leadership role in our nation's capital he just about destroyed the country (as well as a few other countries while he and Dick were at it)

We need LESS insanity in DC, not more!

Posted by: jgarrisn | January 28, 2010 4:04 PM
__________

This is why Tebow is getting blackballed by the pundits over his so-called lack of NFL-level skill.

The NFL doesn't want him, either.

Posted by: Xlnt | January 28, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Mock Draft Analysis of 160 Mock Drafts

#1 - Clausen 52%, Suh 42%, Bradford 6%

#2 - Suh 53%, 30% G.McCoy, Okung 16%, Berry 1%

#3 - G.McCoy 43%, Berry 40%, Okung 6%, Suh 5%, Morgan 4%

#4 - Bradford 44%, Okung 26%, Clausen 19%, G.McCoy 4%, Berry 2%, Campbell 1%

#5 - Okung 39%, Berry 22%, Campbell 9%, Davis 7%, McClain 6%, Williams 5%

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 28, 2010 10:01 PM | Report abuse

Sup alecw81 AND XINT AND/OR noonefromtampa ?

Get your 'haiku' ON much?

Posted by: Vicc | January 28, 2010 10:11 PM | Report abuse


The only top ten defensive pick I wanna see our team make is R. McClain. Otherwise it's pick O-line or trade back. I hope we find a franchise QB as well.

Posted by: Vicc | January 28, 2010 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Inconsistent Fools
Do you get your Haiku ON?
4-12 AND daggar?

Posted by: Vicc | January 28, 2010 10:13 PM | Report abuse

BTG, he can have his opinion. Even if its a retarded one like pro life. But Big Foots Possy hits the nail on the head. Keep it out of the SB!

Posted by: VaBeachBlitz | January 28, 2010 12:32 PM

Dude, did Tebow steal your girlfriend? Give it a rest, you sound more stupid every time you post.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 28, 2010 10:14 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 28, 2010 10:01 PM

It's interesting that you put that post up. I was thinking about this for a bit today so I'll lay it out.

Let's start with the premise that some have been stating on the blog: The most important pick in the draft is a franchise QB.

The second idea is that Bradford will be indeed health enough to squelch any red flag concerns about his injured shoulder.

Therefore:

#1 Rams - Clausen (makes sense w/ the first premise)

#2 Lions - Suh (makes sense, they have a potential franchise QB, and Suh is arguably the best prospect in the draft)

#3 Bucs - Hold on here, the Seahawks @ #6, the Browns @ #7, and Bills@#9 all need franchise QBs, like the Skins. Why wouldn't they trade up for Bradford before the Skins. Let's look at the Seahawks and Bucs potential trade. Based on the above the Bucs would be choosing between G.McCoy 43%, Berry 40%. The Seahawks move up get their franchise QB. Let's say the Skins go with Okung who is BPA @ need position. Guess which two players the Bucs could get @ #7; either McCoy or Berry. Either player fits their BPA @ need position. The only thing the Bucs might give up is the right to pick the player;i.e if the KC picks McCoy the Bucs get Berry and vica versa. Kc may even go w/ a different player completely.

If some of the assumptions about the franchise QB are true, then other teams would have an incentive to leap frog the Skins at #4.

Posted by: TWISI | January 28, 2010 10:20 PM | Report abuse

I would have take Tebow in the 4th until I found out how anti-Sex he was.


Posted by: alex35332 | January 28, 2010 1:11 PM |

It's guys with these kind of views that are most likely banging away day and night.

His GF is hot so if he isn't giving it to her Jody is.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 28, 2010 1:22 PM

Damn Jody. I've heard of that guy.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 28, 2010 10:22 PM | Report abuse

What do you call it when you're berating other people and calling them names -- j erk, i diot -- because they don't agree with you?

Posted by: League-Source | January 28, 2010 2:41 PM |

Yea, that's pretty much my MO.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 28, 2010 10:25 PM | Report abuse

Tebow talk sucks
Let him say what he wants to
American way

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 28, 2010 10:27 PM | Report abuse

shouldn't this title read "his play will show"....

Posted by: mopp04 | January 28, 2010 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Steven Jackson, running back of the St. Louis Rams, is accused by his ex-girlfriend of beating her until she was "bleeding heavily."

Ms. Harris was nine months pregnant at the time.

Harris says Jackson "forcibly grabbed my arm and flung me against the door" and "continued to shove me against the door until his nephew ... interceded and yelled, 'uncle, she has a baby, stop.'"


Posted by: Rotfrau | January 28, 2010 7:47 PM |

If this is true I wonder why we have so much hate spewed towards a man expressing his morals and none aimed at a true criminal? It would be nice if people got their priorities straight.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 28, 2010 10:32 PM | Report abuse

If this is true I wonder why we have so much hate spewed towards a man expressing his morals and none aimed at a true criminal? It would be nice if people got their priorities straight.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 28, 2010 10:32 PM

Well I guess I'll respond to my own post. He hasn't been tried or convicted yet so that would be premature.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 28, 2010 10:34 PM | Report abuse

TWISI aka The Way

Very possible scenario

Also, could go

Clausen
Okung

then do the Bucs take Suh or still look at trading back?

If they do take Suh, do we take Bradford or take a trade back offer with Sea, Clev, Buff.

Also, if the scenario of Warner retires and AZ trades Lienart to Sea (same division doesn't make sense to me), AZ make look to trade up and surrender a bundle of picks

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 28, 2010 10:35 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 28, 2010 10:35 PM

I think in either scenario, the Bucs would trade back(w/ Seattle which would move up past the Skins to secure a franchise QB), as the Bucs would still get one of the top three defensive prospects.

Posted by: TWISI | January 28, 2010 10:45 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 28, 2010 10:46 PM | Report abuse

strange how many liberals think nothing of all the infants being aborted, but howl louder than a stuck pig when a death-row inmate is put to death.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | January 28, 2010 6:49 PM

It is strange. What's even stranger is that a scholar like you thinks people abort infants.

Posted by: mack1 | January 28, 2010 10:51 PM | Report abuse

Es war einmal ein Junge namens Rotfrau gebogen, die bislang über bekam er seinen Kopf in seinen eigenen Arsch stecken

ziehen und zerren mit aller Macht er konnte sich nicht wieder sehen das Licht des Tages

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 28, 2010 10:53 PM | Report abuse

Gute Nacht, um alle Hamster und Krabben auf RI

all this german makes my head hurt, gets me hungry for wurst and bier and now I want to invade Poland too

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 28, 2010 10:58 PM | Report abuse

Wow, guys, good word on the Jody reference, Flounder, scamp...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_cadence#.22Jody_calls.22

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 28, 2010 10:58 PM | Report abuse

or we can do cadence with Dirty Gertie from Bizerte

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 28, 2010 11:04 PM | Report abuse

I got LAST

Now if I have to come back here-I'm cutting me a steak!

Posted by: Vicc | January 28, 2010 11:28 PM | Report abuse

Vicc, here's the thing, dude:
"Last" games are played on old threads
Not on current thread

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 29, 2010 12:01 AM | Report abuse

Two Days of Tebow
Cindy "My Dauphine" Boren
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!

Posted by: daggar | January 29, 2010 12:47 AM | Report abuse

"All morons hate it when you call them a moron."
~J.D. Salinger, The Catcher in the Rye

+++RIP+++

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 29, 2010 12:48 AM | Report abuse

Tebow would be worth a 4th pick. He's not my favorite guy but he is a leader and a winner.

Posted by: coparker5 | January 29, 2010 1:03 AM | Report abuse

"People always think something's all true."

~J.D. Salinger, The Catcher in the Rye

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 29, 2010 1:07 AM | Report abuse

In general terms, the less people know about an athlete's politics, the better off everyone is.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 29, 2010 4:22 AM | Report abuse

Not sure why Tebow is even a topic on a Redskins blog, but I'd pass on him. Plus politics have no place in sports, IMO.

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 29, 2010 5:25 AM | Report abuse

Wow, did anyone else see this proposed new Skins uniform from a few years back on the bog? Thank all things holy this never happened...these threads look like NFL Europe unis:

http://blog.redskins.com/2010/01/28/thursday-january-28-a-new-uniform-that-didnt-happen/

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 29, 2010 6:27 AM | Report abuse

It is strange. What's even stranger is that a scholar like you thinks people abort infants.

Posted by: mack1

Should have called them fetuses, but by all means keep your head in the sand mack, remain blissfully unaware. it suits you. wrong word choice by me, missing the point by you.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | January 29, 2010 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Tebow should know better, really he choices between multiple receivers all the time, he has got even reason to be pro choice. But o yeah he's not a very good decision maker with the ball. He will will make a great back up h-back.

Posted by: MajorFacemask | January 29, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

"Should have called them fetuses, but by all means keep your head in the sand mack, remain blissfully unaware. it suits you. wrong word choice by me, missing the point by you.Posted by: 1965skinsfan"

Speaking of missing the point....

Posted by: Samson151 | January 29, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse

"Tebow would be worth a 4th pick. He's not my favorite guy but he is a leader and a winner.Posted by: coparker5"

Fourth ROUND pick, maybe. But not #4.

I'll be interested to see how he runs at the combine or his Pro Day. Rumor has it he's a solid 4.8, which is pretty slow by today's standards unless you're a QB. These guys work hard on their 40 times to get down in the 4.6 range.

Posted by: Samson151 | January 29, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

What i hate most about the Tebow "mythology" is that he led his team to two national championships. NOT. He wasn't the starting QB in the first national chapionshp season or game. he was a situational player near the goal line. The STARTING QB led Florida to a national championship, NOT Tebow. That irks me to no end. And I bet as a part time player, it was his leadership that won the national championship too. Just ask Chris Leake, who lead the team and passing and who has the won loss record for that season as the starting qb. Tebow won ONE national chapionship and he is not the best college player I have witnesssed in the last 20 years. just becuase you run a flukey offense, ala run and shoot, ala ty detmer, run run up stats doesn't show me u where the greatest college player ever. Herschle Walker is still probably the greatest college football player over the last 50 years, he just ddn't have the best players in the country on teh field with him.

Posted by: JMac_in_MD | January 29, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Yea and how many of Herschel Walkers records did Tebow break from the QB position?

Tebow is like Herschel Walker only he's BIGGER and can play QB!

Posted by: filmchis | January 29, 2010 11:36 PM | Report abuse

If Tebow falls to the 4th round, the Redskins should absolutely take him. Dude has lots of upside. Lots of downside, too, obviously. He's definitely worth the risk in round 4 because of his intangibles.

I'd consider, based on the Senior Bowl and the combine, taking him in the 2nd or 3rd round. Tebow's a gamble, and I'm sure that's how most teams are looking at him.

Look at the SEC championship game to see how he fares when a fast defense collapses the pocket on him. He's just so-so at that point.

Posted by: lordtwang | January 30, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Yea and how many of Herschel Walkers records did Tebow break from the QB position?

Tebow is like Herschel Walker only he's BIGGER and can play QB!

Posted by: filmchis

filmchis

If you knew anythng about college football you would know that Tebow was never the size or had the speed of Herschel Walker. Secondly, Tebow did not break any of Herschel's rushing records. Third, herschel played on Ga. teams without any passing threat from the qb position or wr. So everyone knew it was Herschel left , Herschel right and he still could not be stopped.

I bet you still belive that Tebow led Florida to 2 national championships. If Tebow was so great, why didn't he start as a feshman when Chris leak led the gators to the national championship??

Tebow = Danny Wuerfel (sp)

Both nice guys, but not NFL talent

Posted by: JMac_in_MD | January 31, 2010 4:22 AM | Report abuse

"If you knew anythng about college football you would know that Tebow was never the size or had the speed of Herschel Walker."

Yes Tebow is BIGGER. No I NEVER said he was FASTER.

"Secondly, Tebow did not break any of Herschel's rushing records."

MOST CAREER RUSHING TD (SEC) Tim Tebow - 57
(Not only did he break his record, he did against GEORGIA!)

"Third, herschel played on Ga. teams without any passing threat from the qb position or wr."

Yea, not only was Tebow the RUN THREAT, he was the PASSING THREAT AS WELL.

"I bet you still belive that Tebow led Florida to 2 national championships. If Tebow was so great, why didn't he start as a feshman when Chris leak led the gators to the national championship??"

Florida DOESN'T WIN the last 2 National Championships WITHOUT TIM TEBOW (PERIOD)


NICE TO SEE HOW SUCH BLIND HATRED SPAWNS COLOSSAL IGNORANCE! GOOD LUCK WITH THAT. :)

Posted by: filmchis | January 31, 2010 12:08 PM | Report abuse

HMMM. Filmchris, the Devil is always in the details. First, when you compare stats, you should compare them in context of actual history. Herschel only played 3 yrs. He left after his jr. yr. Tebow played 4 yrs. In three years Herschel amassed 52 rushing TD's and one a National championship. Tebow rushed for 57 in 4 years. Compare Tebow's first three years to Herschel's. No contest.

Second, it would be kind to say that it would be a fancifull leap of faith to say that Florida would not have one it's first national championship w/o Tebow. I mean it meant nothing that they arguably had the best defense and in the country and the most talented team. They could not have won without a part time goal line situational player. BTW, u still did not refute the fact that Chris Leak led Florida to that national championship, not Tebow. Now that's a fact. Further, to say they would have lost without Tebow is akin to saying they would lose if you didn't watch the game. Football is a team sport, and th estarting QB has the greatest influence over the game, not the 5 or 6 down a game player.

Now, my points aren't made based upon hatred, but simply by logic. The truth hurts. So get over your man crush/hero worship. Tebow was not the best college player I have ever witnessed. Herschel Walker was the best and a close second was Bo Jackson, and Tebow is not even in thier class. Not even close. Further,tebow may have been slighted bigger than Herschel, but so what. Bigger doesn't always mean better.

At the end of the day, you may want to watch film of players of the past b/4 you annoint Tebow, the greatest ever. lol. Because the truth shall set you free. Now Tebow would tell you that himself.

Finally, Tebow is a fine young man, who I think in the next couple of years will be doing some announcing or play by play for college football. He is simply not an NFL caliber player.

Posted by: JMac_in_MD | February 1, 2010 12:46 AM | Report abuse

ROFLMAO! YOUR DELUSIONAL DUDE!

I NEVER SAID HE WAS THE GREATEST EVER! (But he PROBABLY IS!!!)

All I said was TEBOW WAS BIGGER (TRUE) AND BROKE HERSCHELS RUSHING TD RECORD (ALSO TRUE!)

Everything else you MADE UP YOURSELF!

But let's be Real.

First, Tebow CRUSHED Herschel RUSHING TD record.........from the QUARTERBACK POSITION.

Again....."RUSHING" TD record "CRUSHED" from the "QUARTERBACK" POSITION.

I know it hurts because you HATE him so much but it's true.

Oh Yeah and he threw for 88 TDs and only 15 INTs.

145 Magically Delicious TDs.....YummY!!.......NOW SUCK ON IT!

Second, I NEVER SAID Tebow LED them to their FIRST TITLE. You conjured that up in your delusional rant.

With that said, THe Gators ran a Two-QB System but Tebow was CLEARLY the Physical and Emotional Leader....as a Freshmen....at QB. and was brought in primarily on 3rd downs and CLUTCH SITUATIONS.

Again, 3rd DOWNS and CLUTCH SITUATIONS.

But then that was just the FIRST of TWO NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS!

CHOMP, CHOMP, ya CHUMP!

Posted by: filmchis | February 1, 2010 2:08 AM | Report abuse

Lets try to chew on this filmcrust,

First you say Tebow is like Herschel, but he plays quaterback. Now that is the first untrue fact. Herschel had over 1,800 yards rushing as a freshman. Tebow had 358 yards passing and 469 rushing and played about 125 plays that year. Moroever, Tebow rushws for a total of 2900 yards in 4 yrs in an qb option offense where he was the primary ball carrier. Herschel surpassed that number in less than 2 yrs at Ga. So he is not like Herschel.

Finally, to say that a freshman who played maybe 125 plays in an entire season of 12 or 13 games was the "physical and emotional leader" of a savvy, very talented and experienced team is laughable. I guess no one else made clutch plays or big plays but Tebow all year. ROFLMAO. This is classic.

BTW, Florida won its 2nd national championship because of the exploits of Percy Harvin. Check out the game film. He made the clutch plays in that game. Or was that Tebow who took a two yard screen pass to the house??? lmao. Ok.

Keep your love for Tebow, but keep the facts straight. Good luck with your man love thing because I see counseling and medication in your future. Enjoy.

Posted by: JMac_in_MD | February 1, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

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