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The Case of the Purloined Tomahawk

It all started with a story in Style this morning about the theft mischievous swiping of a certain superfan's tomahawk.

Thanks to Chris Cooley, the dastardly deed may not go unpunished.

By Cindy Boren  |  August 27, 2008; 2:03 PM ET
 
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GOLD!

Posted by: Skins Fan In Da Ville | August 27, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Ed Ames is my name,
Tomahawks are my game.

Posted by: Ed Ames | August 27, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Skins Fan In Da Ville | August 27, 2008 1:58 PM

Thanks for that link. ST was huge!! Will be watching that off an on all day.

Posted by: Curzon417 | August 27, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

So here's the plan. When they find out who dun it we go to their house and burn it to de ground. Kidding. But seriously its not right.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 27, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

That Tomahawk belongs in a museum, where's Indiana Jones

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 27, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Well that's just super. Blown out 47-3, and the focus is getting the Mascot's toy back.

Unless a defensive lineman can carry teh damn thing on the field who give's a Rat's Asterisk?

Posted by: Grumpy McFocus | August 27, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

chris larry micheals

Posted by: coincidence? | August 27, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

You're right Grumpy. Laughing and scratching about nonsense like this isn't what this team should concern itself with these days.

Posted by: Corkczar | August 27, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

If I'm Chief Zee and someone steals my tomahawk, either I'm scalping him or I'm keeping my mouth shut and going out and chipping some flint and making a new one.

What kind of Indian Chief would go whining "Who stole my tomahawk?" Chief Zee loses all credibility. No wonder he couldn't beat out Ravi the Raven for most fearsome NFL mascot.

Boo, Chief Zee.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 27, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for that link. ST was huge!! Will be watching that off an on all day.

Posted by: Curzon417 | August 27, 2008 2:15 PM

No problem... there was actually a similar video that had music from "Friday Night Lights" instead of the junk included in this video. You're right though, the Reaper was a beast, plain and simple.

Posted by: Skins Fan In Da Ville | August 27, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

First they steal the 'election' of Chief Zee as the baddest SJKing mascot and now this... I blame POE!

btw - funnies can go HERE:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/crowdnoise/2008/08/the_list_proof_that_chinas_gym.html

Posted by: Dik | August 27, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

If the Soul is Darkened
By a Fear it cannot name
If the Mind is Baffled
When the Rules don't fit the Game
Who will Answer?

Posted by: Ed Ames | August 27, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

If you don't care about Zee's (I first typed Zeese, force of habit) tomahawk, you may as well go stick your **** up your **** and call yourself a ravens fan.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 27, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Cyn - I don't think I can forgive you for the hot-pantted Cooley shots.

I mean, Booger King has 2 whoppers for 3$ and I go there... then I'm hit with... pocket pool?! egads!

...I think I just threw up in my mouth a little...

Posted by: Dik | August 27, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

I'm using it to crack open walnuts.

Posted by: G. Bush | August 27, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

I'm using it to stamp hands at Six Flags.

Posted by: D. Snyder | August 27, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Breaking news!!!!!!!!

Chris Cooley will not be able to play against the the Jaguars becasue he has a yeast infection from those too small shorts

Posted by: Great One | August 27, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

If you don't care about Zee's (I first typed Zeese, force of habit) tomahawk, you may as well go stick your **** up your **** and call yourself a ravens fan.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 27, 2008 2:25 PM

I'd gladly contribute to a charity that wanted to buy him a new one. How much do you think it would cost? $6.00? Hell, I'll pay for it all myself.

This is about the biggest non-problem going. It's about as trivial as "which color pants suit should Hillary wear when she endorsed Obama?"

Posted by: Ravens Fan | August 27, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

I'm using it to track down and beat enemies against this great Republican land of ours (and wack G. Bush under the table when he goes off script).

Posted by: D. Cheney | August 27, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

whos up for some alabama hot pocket?

Posted by: cl | August 27, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

I'm using it to whip 2nd round rookies into shape.

Posted by: J. Zorn | August 27, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

2008 ESPN SEASON PREVIEW OF SKINS

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/preview08/team?team=was

Posted by: Da Kid 6945 | August 27, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Talk about low IQ...

MERRIMAN CHOOSES TO PLAY
Posted by Mike Florio on August 27, 2008, 2:11 p.m. EDT
So with every doctor that he has seen telling Chargers linebacker Shawne Merriman to undergo reconstructive surgery on a knee containing two torn ligaments, Merriman is opting to ignore their advice.

“I’m going to play,” Merriman told Kevin Acee of the San Diego Union-Tribune. ”I’ll deal with it when it’s time to get surgery.”

Um, Shawne? According to all of those expert orthopedists you’ve seen over the past week, it’s time to get surgery.

Merriman recently acknowledged that he risks a “career-threatening injury” if he continues to play with a torn PCL and torn LCL in his knee.

We think the team has an obligation to step in and to persuade Merriman to shut it down; instead, the team has issued a press release proclaiming that Merriman will play.

With it looking increasingly unlikely that the Chargers will keep Merriman beyond the 2009 season, when his rookie contract expires, it looks like they’re prepared to take advantage of his willingness to take long-term chances with his body, given that the franchise’s window to win a Super Bowl is as wide as it’s ever gonna get — and could begin closing soon.

From the standpoint of Merriman’s ability to cash in via free agency, his best move is to get the knee fixed now and then show in 2009 that he’s healthy and as effective as ever. If he plays in 2008 and goes under the knife after the season, missing all or part of the 2009 season, Merriman’s value on the open market will plummet, and he’d be forced most likely to accept in 2010 a contract that amounts to a one-year “prove it” deal.

Regardless of the team’s motivation, it’s shameful that the organization is willing to let him play when it’s clear that he shouldn’t be taking such a huge risk with the present and future condition of a fairly important joint.

Posted by: Curzon417 | August 27, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

I think we need to call in the Hardly boys. Just thinking about them working this case is giving me a HUGE clue. I think i will follow that clue.

Posted by: Clue Glue | August 27, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

I'm GONNA use it to wack Jansen's knee ala Gillooly to keep him out of the game.

Posted by: Any Redskin Fan | August 27, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

If someone could post the body of that link, I'd be appreciative.

Posted by: Greg | August 27, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

This is about the biggest non-problem going. It's about as trivial as "which color pants suit should Hillary wear when she endorsed Obama?"

Posted by: Ravens Fan | August 27, 2008 2:30 PM

lol. Pulling out my hammer. Smack to the back of "Lights Out" damn head. What the hell is wrong with him? Go under the knife stupid!

Posted by: jm220 | August 27, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Here you go Greg. I may be joining you and Prison Balls due to copy right laws..

---------

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/preview08/team?team=was

Posted by: Curzon417 | August 27, 2008 2:48 PM | Report abuse

If someone could post the body of that link, I'd be appreciative.

Posted by: Greg | August 27, 2008 2:38 PM

Greg, u trying to get us in trouble wit the posts lawyers

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 27, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Dumb, how some of these guys write. I see this team 4th in the division and having 10 wins.

So what we go un-defeated in the rest of the NFL?

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 27, 2008 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Talk about low IQ...

MERRIMAN CHOOSES TO PLAY

Posted by: Curzon417 | August 27, 2008 2:34 PM

He's from the University of Merriland, right? I'd say he's smarter than the average Terp.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 27, 2008 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: jm220 | August 27, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

curz thanks.

yes I am alex, I'm in prison myself, and I need a new cell-mate...

Posted by: Greg | August 27, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Really, the only opinion that matters is Seth Wickersheim's. And maybe Tucker Carlson, too. But definitely Seth.

Posted by: P Diddy | August 27, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

I love how they have us ending up worse than Philadelphia. Some aspects of our system may be lacking, but how can an offense do anything without a receiver, or a line to protect them (some OL from Philly went down recently). They don't have an equivalent of CC at TE so I don't understand how they're going to beat us even if it does take a game or four to get our offense down.

Posted by: Karen | August 27, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

i used purloined once to describe my dads theft. cindy, you likes me nads. you can admit it.

shrived nads

Posted by: nads guy | August 27, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, dumb analysis by most.

But you wouldnt need 18 people picking the results if any of them were good at what they did!!

Posted by: Zebra | August 27, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

But as i say that, i think it is good. We never seem to do well when we are considered the front runner.

But JC's development is the key. If teams start stacking the box, the WC needs to open them up...

Posted by: Zebra | August 27, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

"Some aspects of our system may be lacking, but how can an offense do anything without a receiver, or a line to protect them (some OL from Philly went down recently)."

I don't know but for years until Owens graced them for about a year and a half, McNabb didn't have any receivers to throw to, and still was one of the btter teams in the league... Their O-line has been one of the best for a few years now... Contract year for L.J. Smith, I'm expecting him to have decent season like a few years back.

Posted by: Red of the DMV | August 27, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

But you wouldnt need 18 people picking the results if any of them were good at what they did!!

Posted by: Zebra | August 27, 2008 3:04 PM

Zebra,

The corollary is that if none of them is any good, then you don't need any of them.

Posted by: Motivator | August 27, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

F Prognosticators.

Posted by: Skinz | August 27, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of "dastardly deeds" [Jasno's quote]

I am not even a Republican, but folks, some things far transcend football. Watch and listen for only 5:32 seconds and ask yourself, didn't we uncover this type of thing in the 1940's in Europe?

Do the right thing regardless what it will cost you.

HTTR!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIdbYjmbFzo

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | August 27, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Philly has been good without a big name receiver. Now they have nobody healthy on their roster who has had a 1000 yard season. That's the difference. I also read (prolly ESPN) something essentially saying the OL there to be weakening (I think it was one of their tackles who is either semi-injured or on the downside of his career - similar to how Jansen has been (not) performing).

Posted by: Karen | August 27, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

That Tomahawk belongs in a museum, where's Indiana Jones

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 27, 2008 2:18 PM


"And so do you!

Throw em' over the side."

Posted by: Dude with the white hat in the last crusade | August 27, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Truth, you wrote "Sorry you're so lame that you don't watch college football like the other 90% of men." Well then, I'm just another ten percenter.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 27, 2008 1:41 PM


Nate, you're a jerk.


(Soda jerk. And it's good. Gettin' perk.)

Posted by: freakzilla | August 27, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

That is quite sickening Ray.

I heard some banter about this on radio. None of the dem/ Obama supporters wanted to touch this thing.

Posted by: Zebra | August 27, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Boo on that, Ray. Worse than rickrolling... haterolling! Let the misinformation flow... ugh.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 27, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Dumb choice by Merriman, I hope it works out though.

Posted by: The Truth | August 27, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

swift boaters are at it again.

We encountered torture in the 1940s too.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 27, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

I heard some banter about this on radio. None of the dem/ Obama supporters wanted to touch this thing.

Posted by: Zebra | August 27, 2008 3:20 PM

Dem/Obama supporters don't care less about Chief Zee's tomahawk. McCain's pledged that, if he's elected, Zee's tomahawk will be returned. That's all I can say about that.

Posted by: Ravens Fan | August 27, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Obama? No me gusta esta islas.

305 humor.

Posted by: Dik as Marielito | August 27, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Philly has been good without a big name receiver. Now they have nobody healthy on their roster who has had a 1000 yard season. That's the difference.

Posted by: Karen | August 27, 2008 3:15 PM


No difference. Since 2002 Philly has only had two receivers with 1K or more in receiving. Kevin Curtis last year and T.O. Their record in that span: 59-31, including 4 seasons with 10 wins or better.

McNabb will throw to everyone including Andy Reid's two sons. Westbrook and their defense makes and breaks them every year.

Posted by: Red of the DMV | August 27, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Dumb choice by Merriman, I hope it works out though.

Posted by: The Truth | August 27, 2008 3:20 PM

Yeah, fat chance. Merriman's career will be over by week 3. Then we'll at least shut up the Rogers-hating parrots who keep saying "We should have picked Merriman. We should have picked Merriman. We should have picked Merriman."

Posted by: d-bag | August 27, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

We should have picked Merriman

Posted by: No really we should have dopey. | August 27, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Nate;

I dont know if you were claiming that the Obama vote was misinformation, or the letting babies die, but if that is what you are claiming you should look into it first.

It was said that it was the choice of the mother to abort before the 3rd trimester, around 27 weeks, and it was a premature birth , not still born.

But because the choice was to abort, the baby didnt have right to life, even though pro choice supporters have always held the belief that life begins at birth, something I vehemently disagree with.

Either way, the baby was born but the hospitals were not allowed to help. The bill was introduced, Obama shot it down.

Public record.

Posted by: Zebra | August 27, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Hey D-Bag, not everything has to be about who is right and who is wrong.


Hope Merriman recovers and has a HoF career.

Posted by: The Truth | August 27, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

But Nate, that's not misinformation. Obama did say that he'd support the legislation if it had the federal wording, and then when presented with the chance to insert the federal wording, he opposed doing so. That's a fact. His campaign has even admitted as much.

Posted by: freakzilla | August 27, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Check our Cooley's blog.

So seriously, Chris Cooley is a movie producer now? That's funny stuff. Must be a fan of Entourage. I hope he's saving his money.

Posted by: John | August 27, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Trying to figure out why we're talking politics instead of Redskins....

Anyway, which happens first... Kareem Moore starts at FS moving LL back to SS or Horton replaces Doughty as SS during the course of the season?

Posted by: Skins Fan In Da Ville | August 27, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Dem/Obama supporters don't care less about Chief Zee's tomahawk. McCain's pledged that, if he's elected, Zee's tomahawk will be returned. That's all I can say about that.

Posted by: Ravens Fan | August 27, 2008 3:27 PM

See this is a classic example of Dems and Repubs only looking at the symptom of the problems and not the causes. Ralph Nader has pledged that in a Nader presidency we will get to the root of this, which is that the corporate controlled tomahawkopoly is not putting out enough Zee style tomahawks forcing us to steel them from eachother. In a Nader administration everyone would be able to get a Zee tomahawk, and healthcare, and pot will be legal, and Bin Laden will turn himself in, but first the tomahawks.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 27, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Hope Merriman recovers and has a HoF career.

Posted by: The Truth | August 27, 2008 3:36 PM

And a good way to recover is to ignore your doctor's orders. Rub a little dirt on it and get back in the game.

Posted by: d-bag | August 27, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Thomas Jefferson said something to the effect that every generation should have a revolution, either violent or non-violent.

This country is run by the rich and will always be run by the rich. They have figured out how to keep revolutions from happening by creating a middle class. The presidency will always be a puppet for the rich of this country.

Issues like the link above only serve to vote which party has more control over the other. Neither candidate will change much of what affects most of us.

My only political post and I am going anon with it.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 27, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/obama_and_infanticide.html

While the editor and writers final claim is that Obama is an abortion rights protectionist (for a lack of a better word) and always has been, it is pretty bad to stand behind that veil considering his background in Law...

Posted by: Zebra | August 27, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Ralph Nader has pledged that in a Nader presidency we will get to the root of this, which is that the corporate controlled tomahawkopoly is not putting out enough Zee style tomahawks forcing us to steel them from eachother. In a Nader administration everyone would be able to get a Zee tomahawk, and healthcare, and pot will be legal, and Bin Laden will turn himself in, but first the tomahawks.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 27, 2008 3:42 PM

Nader-schamder.

Look, Ralph Nader wrote about tomahawks before you were born in his classic book, "Unsafe at Any Speed." He would regulate tomahawks. No one would have them but registered Indian Law Enforcement Agents. Zee's would be taken away from whoever has it, unless he's a registered ILEA. Zee wouldn't get it back.

McCain would not only take the tomahawk away from the thief, but return it to Chief Zee. Probably at a White House ceremony.

Posted by: Ravens Fan | August 27, 2008 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 27, 2008 3:42 PM

I applaud your efforts, Alex.

I really don't understand talking politics on here. I like it but not on RI.

So how many TV/glamour shots of Ggregg Williams tomorrow night?

My guess is 17 total.

Posted by: Red of the DMV | August 27, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

yeah well D-Bag it's hard not to play when you love the game. Bad decision sure but I still hope the best. This guy is putting a huge amount of money on the line because he thinks they have the talent to win a Superbowl this year.

What's not to respect there??? That's a football player.

Posted by: The Truth | August 27, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone out there really think there is anything straight forward about this political season?

Having said that, I missed the latest football debacle. Let's hope season one (pre-season) ends on a more pleasant note.

I'm starting to worry about LaRon too.

Hail to the Redskins!

F politicians.

Posted by: stumped | August 27, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Anyway, which happens first... Kareem Moore starts at FS moving LL back to SS or Horton replaces Doughty as SS during the course of the season?

Posted by: Skins Fan In Da Ville | August 27, 2008 3:41 PM

I am going with Horton replacing Doughty at SS. After the end of last season I want to see LL continue to intercept passes, keeping QBs questioning their throws and destroy WRs.

Posted by: Curzon417 | August 27, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Count me in for Horton replacing Doughty as well.

Doughty is a decent backup at best.

Posted by: The Truth | August 27, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Wait, you want to start Horton now, or wait until next season?


Posted by: stumped | August 27, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Issues like the link above only serve to vote which party has more control over the other. Neither candidate will change much of what affects most of us...

Posted by: Anonymous | August 27, 2008 3:46 PM
********************************************

Couldn't be more in error.
Human Rights transcend political parties, everyone.

I am not a registered Republican, so it is not a party issue.

Even more, I saw O'Bama on TV myself stating GWB was wrong to have gone to China because of the Human Rights Issue.

O'Bama knows how he has voted.
Yet, what does he do?
PR to a camera to attempt to snow the voting public on his human rights record...
It's all a game, folks. It's all a game.

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | August 27, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

I think Moore has gotten more reps than Horton b/c of position or skill?

I want to see Moore at Strong to see what he can do. Maybe Jla can tell from practice if he has had any reps there?

Posted by: Zebra | August 27, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

No reaction to Chris Cooley producing films?

Posted by: John | August 27, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

So far none look ready for primetime. Doughty has shown himself to be competent when real bullets were flying. I like Moore but I saw him take one of the worst angles I've ever seen in the last game.

For now it's Doughty and then we see how it goes.

Posted by: Skinz | August 27, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

So how many TV/glamour shots of Ggregg Williams tomorrow night?
My guess is 17 total.
Posted by: Red of the DMV | August 27, 2008 3:50 PM

So thats 34 man boobs? Or are we talking mostly close ups.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 27, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Ray,
Just because you're not a registered Republican doesn't somehow depoliticize it.

You're right it is all a game. We're all being played and the video itself is a fine example.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 27, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Also I assume you knew that the Tomahawk Politics talk is sarcasm.

FYI McCain has been anti-tomahawk for years, ever since the NRA became one of his big supporters. they hate all non-firearm self defense, and the tomahawk is on the top of that list.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 27, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Obama = McCain

Posted by: All The Same | August 27, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

I'm excited hoping Horton and Moore will make us more athletic back there w/ LL.

Boy, I get frustrated sometimes thinking what we could have had as #21 and #30 would have matured and developed!

OH well, we must now move on...

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | August 27, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Yes, it's all a game, Ray, and you're one of the players... that video linked above says outright that Obama is in favor of infanticide. Which is absolutely ludicrous and is a sign of just how disgusting this campaign will be.

A legislator's voting yay or nay (or not casting a vote, for that matter) on any particular bill, or a committee's deciding whether or not to send a bill to the floor, whether at the state or federal level, may be due to any number of factors and rarely boils down to a simple question such as "are you pro-infanticide or anti-infanticide?" To suggest that such is the case certainly looks like misinformation, or at least a gross and cynically calculated oversimplification, to me.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 27, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

I dont know how I feel about that anon... I mean we have more access now than ever. No one can get away with anything. it is on record, tape, video etc..

Think about how it used to be before tv or radio. Most people never saw the candidate.

I think it is much better today. Yeah the fodder is there, but at least i get to see it and sift it for the facts rather than listening to someone stumping for a candidate, well, on a stump..

Posted by: Zebra | August 27, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

I agree its a game, and I want to win it. Vote for me for president in 2020.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 27, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Our young sfties. before we were asking the two of them to seperate themselves. I believe they have. Chris Horton seems to be a little bigger and more comfortable close to the line and in run stop. moore seems to have more field coverage and looks confused but fast in coverage. they both have shown on the field they are worthy of spots that was made clear with the removal of Fox.

Posted by: Stu | August 27, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Latest SI NFL preview has the Patriots winning the Superbowl........over the Philidelphia Eagles, I kid you not :

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/specials/preview/2008/08/26/main/index.html?eref=T1


Am I the only one that sees Philly finishing 3rd at best in the NFC East? They also got us missing the playoffs at 7-9 and, of course, last in the NFC East.

I love it!

Posted by: The Truth | August 27, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

And yes, I'll shut up about this now. I just get riled up when I see garbage like this up here. Just makes me sick. (One of the Barnos used to take delight in posting a bunch of right-wing claptrap up here.)

So yeah, I have a compulsive need to not let this kind of crap go by without comment. It's a personal failing, not at the top of the list of my personal failings, but it's on there.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 27, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Hey, get all those windbags off my back!

Posted by: stumped | August 27, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Close ups, Alex. I can do with out the dub-G boobs. It makes me curious to know if they have footage of him running like they do of Zorn.

Is either Doughty, Horton, or Moore over 220 pounds? I don't think so. Can we get a SS with some weight on him. I think LaRon is listed at 213 or something like that, but looking at him sprinting that day with CP I'd think he's about 220-225. It's hard to play the box when you're being u-hauled off the line of scrimmage.

Posted by: Red of the DMV | August 27, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

if we can get solid play from our corners especially using them in man coverage then it makes the free safties job harder, landry will have more field to cover, which he can do. Unfortunetly we will start out the season with Doughty. he will once again be fast enough and smart enough to get himself in the places he needs to be but when he breaks down to make the tackle will he will not have the ability to take down his man. Start hinting to Horton about him being a possible replacement. If the corners can play well it makes our SS job very easy, stop the run. Doughty cant do that horton and moore have both shown they can.

Posted by: Stu | August 27, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Are you kidding me about the Philly/NE super bowl? That is pretty humorous, to say the least.

Posted by: Greg | August 27, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Nate;

I agree with what you say, that it is an oversimplification by the nurse in the video.

But what gets me is that the excuse used by Obama leaves it open to interpretation.

Why, even the most staunch pro-choice person, could sit there and justify how it is going to look via roe v wade over the 22 month old struggling to survive is beyond me.

I guess that is why i am not a politician, I couldnt leave heart and reason out of it.

If he had an disagreement with riders or other language in the bill, ammend it. Actually the records seem to agree it was ammended to include that language he wanted.

So just because the method of telling the story is smeared, looking through to the facts seems to point to some gross negligence on his part.

Posted by: Zebra | August 27, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

If we must continue to talk politics, can some one please hand me a .45 so I can put a freakin' hollow tip bullet in my head.

Thanks in advance,

Posted by: Red of the DMV | August 27, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Ok Red;

i will stop. i too have Nate disease....

Posted by: Zebra | August 27, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

The Truth,
Hilarious. I can see the Girls, but the Eagles? Pleease.

Posted by: stumped | August 27, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Are you kidding me about the Philly/NE super bowl? That is pretty humorous, to say the least.

Posted by: Greg | August 27, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

even more hilarious is they have The Cowgirls winning a playoff game!!

Posted by: The Truth | August 27, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Probably old news but David Tyree on the PUP list, won't be playing for six weeks.


Redskins 35, Giants 17

Posted by: The Truth | August 27, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

A nimble pocket passer with a strong arm and a quick, compact release, the 6' 5", 230-pound Campbell is an ideal fit for Zorn's system,

That is how they describe Campbell. Sorry have these guys watched him?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 27, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Greg,
They said that about the predicted Giants/Patriots Super Bowl last year.

The Eagles have a strong defense and a great QB (oh, forget it...I can't continue this charade)...

Posted by: stumped | August 27, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

to sum up:

Horton rulz
Reed Drulz

politics rule
politics on RI drulz

Eagles in SB rulz (as hysterical joke)
Eagles in SB drulz as reality

life rulz
death drulz (unless your Obama who obviously sustains lifeforce from dipping straws in babies soft spots and drinking...)

Posted by: chrIS lArry | August 27, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

It might be putting words in Obama's mouth to say that he's pro-infanticide, but having voted three times not to prevent it, it's safe to say that he's not anti-infanticide.

Which begs the question of why not.


As for me, I am anti-infanticide, and pro-Jaguars-icide.

Posted by: freakzilla | August 27, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

The ONLY prognosticator who matters up here is Lisa, who I believe pegged the Giants as your 2008 Super Bowl champions.

Lisa, we're waiting for your prediction for this season. (Please don't be the Giants again... or the Cowboys... please...)

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 27, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Lisa,
If you say Philadelphia, I will be physically ill.

Posted by: stumped | August 27, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

It's all a game, folks. It's all a game.

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | August 27, 2008 3:54 PM

Maybe, but its not a football game. I care as much about the political views of sports fans as I care about the sports views of politicians. Lambert Field? The Texas Rangers? Losers.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 27, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

I've been to a few sites that have the iggles winning the division. Just don't see how Asante Samuel and Jackson improve them so much.

And if the talk is that our players are injury prone, then the same is true for McNabb. No way he plays the whole season.

Posted by: Curzon417 | August 27, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

freakzilla, I am not in favor of any discussion which is predicated on the statement that Obama is pro-infanticide. If the discussion starts from that point, those who are pushing an agenda of demonizing Obama have already "won," regardless of where the discussion may go.

It is absolutely ludicrous to suggest that Obama, or any reasonable person, is in favor of infanticide. Absolutely ludicrous! But there you go, you just did it again! And here I go, validating that preposterous slander at least to some degree by responding again instead of ignoring it, just because I can't let it slide!

I am an idiot.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 27, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Obama eats babies and washes them down with kittens.

Posted by: True Story | August 27, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Nate and Zebra: Carry on, within limits. Your particular disease, on most days, would usually get me seriously injured down here in the great state of...

Anyway, here's a thought -

Tomahawks don't kill people...

Posted by: John D in Houston | August 27, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

And if the talk is that our players are injury prone, then the same is true for McNabb. No way he plays the whole season.

Posted by: Curzon417 | August 27, 2008 4:29 PM


Agreed. Shall we start a pool on how many games he misses this year?

We could have two questions:

1. Week by which he's injured.

2. Games missed.

Bonus question: Specific injury.

Posted by: freakzilla | August 27, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Anon,
The trouble is that dirty politics has made it impossible to have a meaningful conversation about the issues that really matter to our country, none of which are completely intractable. But the longer the sideshows go on, the worse things get.

As for the Skins, I honestly hope we can manage another wild card spot this year and make a play for the division title next year.

Posted by: stumped | August 27, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

+++F Prognosticators.

Posted by: Skinz | August 27, 2008 3:12 PM+++

I KNEW you were going to say that.

Posted by: Corkczar | August 27, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

I gotta say I'm pro-Chris Horton. While I think Kareem Moore has what it takes to be all that, I'm thinking FS has a steeper learning curve than SS. I'm not saying I'm anti-Doughty, but I like Horton. Late round pick, but what do we know about the guy? Well, his coach was DeWayne Walker ... who used to coach Sean Taylor ... and DeWayne Walker used to be a position coach under Ggrilliams at the same time Greg Blache was a position coach under Ggrilliams ... and every one of those guys had a bond with Sean Taylor. You think DeWayne Walker might want to find a good home for one of his pet beasts? Maybe that he might be able to convince Greg Blache that he knows "lust for mayhem" when he sees it? Also, I've wanted Atari Bigby since the regular season game ... so I will settle for a guy who looks like (and tackles like) him.

Posted by: dcsween | August 27, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse


+++FYI McCain has been anti-tomahawk for years, ever since the NRA became one of his big supporters. they hate all non-firearm self defense, and the tomahawk is on the top of that list.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 27, 2008 4:01 PM+++

Umm, the Tomahawk is also a Cruise Missile. McCain believes everyone, including he Bloods and eh Crips have a Constitutiuonal right to own one.

Posted by: Shocked & Awed | August 27, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Hey I've got a Cruise Missile.....IN MY PANTS!

Posted by: Tom Cruise, 14th Degree Thetan | August 27, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Bonus question: Specific injury.

Posted by: freakzilla | August 27, 2008 4:34 PM

First, I will take the extra credit bonus question, which is "who causes the injury?" and I will say Chris Horton.

On the original bonus question, McNabb's injury will be "hurt feelings" ... after a devasting LfM hit. Also perhaps significant loosening of molars.

Posted by: dcsween | August 27, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

But there you go, you just did it again!

But, Nate, I didn't. Re-read what I wrote. I agreed that it's putting words in his mouth to say that he's pro, but his voting record shows that it's safe to say he's not anti.

Posted by: freakzilla | August 27, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

On the ESPN "consensus" estimate about the Division rank, I don't think any of those were updated to reflect recent injuries to Kyle Kosier or Osi Umenblahblah or Kevin Curtis. All of the commentary seems to focus on Zorn as a former position coach. Seems lame to me ... like by a bunch of consensus pickers who don't know the dynamic of the NFC East very well.

In the NFL, the line btwn first and worst is very thin. In the NFC East, its thinner. The fate of the NFC East comes down to the combination of injuries and bad officiating, i.e., randomness.

Posted by: dcsween | August 27, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

You just did it again, zilla! Aaaaagh!

Okay, okay, that's really enough of that. Really.

Hugs all around.

Hail to 'em.

And etc.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 27, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

1. Week by which he's injured.

2. Games missed.

Bonus question: Specific injury.

Posted by: freakzilla | August 27, 2008 4:34 PM

1. His first injury comes week 2 against the girls - minor hamstring injury running for his life. 2nd injury to his shoulder on week 5 sack by JT.

2. Misses a total of 6 games (seven weeks including bye).

Posted by: Curzon417 | August 27, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Interseting stuff with the taylor link, anything link to him make you that much better in my book. agreed about fs being tougher learning curve, especially the centerfield type of fs weve employed with 21 and now 30 so im willing to bring moore on and learn that position. Honestly Horton can flat out take down a ball carrier put him in their and see what he has. he may get beat due to mistakes but ill take that over getting beat cause you cant tackle.

Posted by: Stu | August 27, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

sween, don't forget the fickle winds of the Meadowlands, which have decided many a game...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 27, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Go ahead. Keep Obama Bashing, all you Right Wingers here. We've asked nicely that politics go elsewhere--but nope. You have to bring your hate whereever you can.

So, don't ask the one or two Dems here to keep it down when Poppa McPoopypants has HIS convention...because payback's a Beeyotch.

And Lordy do we have the ammo....

Posted by: No Third Term for Bush, Inc. | August 27, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Go ahead. Keep Obama Bashing, all you Right Wingers here. We've asked nicely that politics go elsewhere--but nope. You have to bring your hate whereever you can.

So, don't ask the one or two Dems here to keep it down when Poppa McPoopypants has HIS convention...because payback's a Beeyotch.

And Lordy do we have the ammo....

Posted by: No Third Term for Bush, Inc. | August 27, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Stu, that's what I see too ... Horton tackles don't just stop the ball carrier ... he gets negative "yards after contact."

Posted by: dcsween | August 27, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Sacking Lorenzen was a great start, that fatty aint easy to take down and he has preformed ever since. great in all the interviews ive seen seems like he wants to learn the game, cant hut hium cause hes got the ability. McKnee Injury misses at least 4 games thats just the norm without anything serious.

Posted by: STU | August 27, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

The topic of fickle winds in the Meadowlands returns me to the topic of the Skins' punter competition. Weighing the pros/cons of Brooks/Frost, I can't help thinking about that boring Feagles on the Giants. Every time the guy takes the field, he punts out of bounds behind the 20. On the net yardage battle for change of possession, the farther he gets it behind the 20, the better. Boring, but effective. Special teams play can make the difference in a close division like the NFC East. MAN, I got nothing!

Posted by: dcsween | August 27, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

freakzilla,

Isn't that like saying because I voted for Bush, I'm pro war?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 27, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

I think the consensus up here is that those prognosticators are chooches.

Posted by: Skinz | August 27, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Whaddya mean you got nothin', sween? You got a mean punter fetish. That's gotta count for somethin'

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 27, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

To be honset the Punter competition has been everything the hype was buiding it up to be. An epic blow by blow knock down fight where niether side will relent. But really it has been close Frost has the experience but has pissed me off so much in the past. The rook is a rook but played great at Georgia Tech(good respectable fan base) and has looked very good so far. Frost alsmost killed one of our own guys makin that tackle the last game I like the enthusiasm but dont hurt our guys you crazy punter. Anyways I take brooks they have the same stats, I know he lacks NFL game time experience but we could have this guy for the next 10 years.

Posted by: Stu | August 27, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

I agreed that it's putting words in his mouth to say that he's pro, but his voting record shows that it's safe to say he's not anti.

Posted by: freakzilla | August 27, 2008 4:44 PM

What I hear 'zilla saying is that he's a modern day Mugwump: Straddling the fence with mug on one side, wump on the other.

Posted by: Motivator | August 27, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

No third term,

Step 1: Reread the supposed Obama bashing posts.

Step 2: Laugh at your mistake

Step 3: Profit

Posted by: Anonymous | August 27, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Anon, no, it isn't, because you're talking about voting for a candidate, who will have to make decisions on a whole range of issues, versus voting up or down on a single issue.

Posted by: freakzilla | August 27, 2008 5:08 PM | Report abuse

sween,

Give us an update on Rob Jackson v. Erasmus James and Casey Bramlett v. Philip Rivers.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 27, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Casey Bramlett v. Philip Rivers.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 27, 2008 5:09 PM

Read somewhere that Bramlet was released yesterday.

Posted by: Curzon417 | August 27, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

SAN DIEGO: Five players were released by the San Diego Chargers on Tuesday, including quarterback Casey Bramlet, to get down to the required 75-player limit.

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/08/27/sports/FBN-Chargers-Moves.php

Posted by: Curzon417 | August 27, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

t_e_, I knew I forgot something ... Bramlett got cut yesterday.

On Erasmus James/Rob Jackson, I'm still thinking they both get cut next Tuesday ... now I'm also thinking they both end up back on the Skins' payroll before the season.* On the D-line, seems like DT has a slightly deeper need to retain the extra guy.

* If James gets cut and survives the waiver wire and gets re-signed by the Skins as a free agent, do they still have to give up the 7th round pick?

Posted by: dcsween | August 27, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Police kill Indian gang leader, and a legend grows

By SAM DOLNICK
The Associated Press
Tuesday, August 26, 2008; 2:34 PM

NEW DELHI -- The skinny would-be kingpin and his fearless bike gang were seemingly everywhere.

When someone was shot or robbed in this city of 16 million, where murder is relatively rare, police pointed to the same suspect: Bunty, the notorious gang leader who terrorized New Delhi from astride a motorcycle.

Bunty's reign ended Monday when he died in a pre-dawn shootout with police. Authorities trumpeted the news as a hard-fought victory over the city's most wanted man, held responsible for stabbings, shootings, robberies and more.

Police classified him as a "BC," for Bad Character, the highest category of criminal _ and he was on a first-name basis with the media. One leading newspaper announced his demise simply: "Bunty shot."

"It's almost like he's a quasi-mythical figure," said Santosh Desai, a media critic and Times of India columnist. "It's blurring into lore."

India has a long history of celebrating bandits as folk heroes and their legends often reflect the society they stalk.

With a youthful nickname, a passion for flashy motorcycles, and an ambition to rise high, Bunty _ whose real name was Om Prakash _ was a criminal for the new India.

A generation ago, the ubiquitous vehicles crowding Indian streets were clunky Ambassadors, cars which never won any style contests. The loosening of the economy in 1991 brought a flood of foreign vehicles _ including the motorcycles favored by Bunty.

His exploits were straight out of the motorcycle robbery films 'Dhoom' and its sequel, perhaps lending a patina of Bollywood glitz to his thuggery.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/26/AR2008082601958.html

Posted by: 4th | August 27, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

So Casey has now been released by Cincinnati, Washington, Atlanta, Miami, and San Diego? The good news is that five teams thought he was good enough to give him a shot. The bad is that the same five teams decided he wasn't. Tough way to make a living.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 27, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

I think Bramlett lost the job to Charlie Whitehurst because Norv, after his short time in DC, thought traffic was a nightmare ... and wanted to believe that something, some form of relief ... like the Whitehurst Freeway.

[As I said, I got nothing.]

Posted by: dcsween | August 27, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

By the way, the same bill with the "federal language" did not make it out of the IL committee numerous times -- defeated by both Dems AND Republicans with names other than Obama. It was defeated more times without Obama having a say than with him having a say. I think it is likewise reasonable to assume from this fact that others in IL -- including Republicans -- had serious misgivings about the intentions behind the bill, not in the straw man of infantcide, which it most certainly was not about.

Posted by: Dead Horse, Adequately Beaten | August 27, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

* If James gets cut and survives the waiver wire and gets re-signed by the Skins as a free agent, do they still have to give up the 7th round pick?

Posted by: dcsween | August 27, 2008 5:16 PM

Depends on how te trade was agreed upon. They may have to wait until after the 1st week of the season to sign him and keep the pick..........

Posted by: 4th | August 27, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

I think there is a better chance that Moore starts at FS and Landry at SS. Horton has made the team as the 4th safety, however he needs more experience before he's ready to overtake Doughty at SS.

My guess is Moore will play before Horton, because he beat out Fox for the 3rd safety spot. Special teams play will determine which one is on the weekly inactive list.

Posted by: Siris | August 27, 2008 5:22 PM | Report abuse

sween,

Cuts are by 4:30 Saturday. Don't know how the James trade was conditioned, but I don't see him getting cut and not getting picked up by some other team.

I think Jackson/James need to play well Thursday night. I'm predicting James is on the roster and Jackson is on the practice squad.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 27, 2008 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Texas boy, 13, sentenced to 15 years in prison

The Associated Press
Tuesday, August 26, 2008; 6:26 AM

WACO, Texas -- A 13-year-old boy who admitted stabbing a teenage friend to death earlier this summer has received a 15-year sentence as part of a plea agreement.

State District Judge Alan Mayfield accepted the plea agreement Monday after rejecting a 10-year proposal earlier this month. The boy was 12 at the time of the June 6 stabbing.

Posted by: 4th | August 27, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Anon, no, it isn't, because you're talking about voting for a candidate, who will have to make decisions on a whole range of issues, versus voting up or down on a single issue.

Posted by: freakzilla | August 27, 2008 5:08 PM

I don't think that there are any up or down votes on single issues in congress.

(Agree to disagree).

Posted by: Anonymous | August 27, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Siris;

That would leave 4 safeties, why would one be inactive?

Posted by: Zebra | August 27, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Seriously no one cares. You guys are nearly as profound as you think

Posted by: You guys are dummies | August 27, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Got another one for you all... At what point during the season does Zorn move Heyer into the starting lineup for Jansen?

Posted by: Skins Fan In Da Ville | August 27, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

As soon as Heyer shows he is better than Jansen?

Posted by: Zebra | August 27, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Got another one for you all... At what point during the season does Zorn move Heyer into the starting lineup for Jansen?

Posted by: Skins Fan In Da Ville | August 27, 2008 5:29 PM

That's a tougher one. Both injured during preseason. Jansen definitley rusty, but may get back in form each game. I will go with game 6 due to injury or bad showing to iggles.

Posted by: Curzon417 | August 27, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Originally, I had Wilson making the team as the 5th DE and Jackson going to the practice squad. However, Jackson has clearly outplayed Wilson and with the injury to Taylor, there is possibility that the Skins keep Jackson on the final roster -- at least to start the year... Boschetti has also been impressive in the pre-season and the coaches may have a hard time not keeping him as the 5th DT.

The Skins could keep 10 DL now that Fox has been cut. Plus I wouldn't be surprised if they bring in a veteran LB, with the Sinclair injury.

Posted by: Siris | August 27, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

As soon as Heyer's knee is healed up ... or as soon as Jansen's ankle cries uncle.

Posted by: dcsween | August 27, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Well, regarding the stupid bill - some pundit made a great point in response to all of this hoo ha - "No one is for killing babies"

Probably the cleanest analysis of this thus far

Posted by: John D in Houston | August 27, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Do the Jaguars have anything going on in the receiving game? Just for injury avoidance sake, seems like it would be better for the Jags to pick apart the Skins' depth in the secondary ... than to pound the ball against the D-line and LBs.

Posted by: dcsween | August 27, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

"No one is for killing babies"

Probably the cleanest analysis of this thus far

Posted by: John D in Houston | August 27, 2008 5:41 PM

The only thing I'm for up here is killing time. This place is like a genocide of workplace productivity.

Posted by: dcsween | August 27, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

I like the problem we have on which DL to keep. I think that in the end Wilson gets cut because Jackson gives us more options. Neither James nor Jackson will survive waivers if cut to make the practice squad so I see both making the final roster.

Posted by: Curzon417 | August 27, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Ok Nate & Gang, I'm ready for my Super Bowl Champion prediction...I think....

Wait for it...wait for it....I'm actually going AFC....JAX! Gregg Williams will get his ring and wave it in Snyder's face.

Posted by: Lisa | August 27, 2008 5:52 PM | Report abuse

Seriously no one cares. You guys are nearly as profound as you think

Posted by: You guys are dummies | August 27, 2008 5:28 PM

We're "nearly as profound" as we think?

What are you trying to say, oh great judger of dummies?

Did you mean "You guys are NOT nearly as profound as you think"? Now, that would have cut us to the quick. But that isn't what you said.

Come back again when you can raise your participation to our level, please.

Posted by: d-bag | August 27, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

James nor Jackson will survive waivers if cut to make the practice squad so I see both making the final roster.

Posted by: Curzon417 | August 27, 2008 5:49 PM

Curzon, James isn't eligible for the practice squad anyway. Jackson is, and I don't know about Wilson.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 27, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

TE, I should have know that on James. This is Wilson 2nd year so he is eligible if he survives waivers.

Posted by: Curzon417 | August 27, 2008 5:59 PM | Report abuse

i didnt watch the 2nd half of the game. How much did James play and did he look good?

Posted by: Zebra | August 27, 2008 6:00 PM | Report abuse

I don't think Wilson is still eligible for the practice squad -- he has only 1 year of experience, however I believe he was on the (active) roster for more than 9 games.

Posted by: Siris | August 27, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

10. What is more likely, Chris Cooley getting dreadlocks or Colt Brennon getting a fro.

I didn't know Colt Brennon had dreadlocks, but I can't stand dreadlocks. They're dirty, they stink and I think they look stupid. I thought the white man afro was awesome. I wish my hair would grow faster so I could have it back. I would recommend that look to anyone.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 27, 2008 6:07 PM | Report abuse

I thought James played pretty well. At least he's overcome the knee injury; is only 27 yrs old; is good value for the loss of a 7th round draft pick; and still has the potential to be a good player.

He certainly looked better than the starters last week ;-> I pretty sure the Skins will keep him on the final roster...

Posted by: Siris | August 27, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

With the 2008 Aussie Rules International Cup starting yesterday, I know you're all on the edge of your seat wanting to know how the US Revolution did in their opening match. Well, I'm glad to report that you had a victory, although an expected one, against a weak Denmark team.

US Revolution 11.6.72 beat Denmark Vikings 1.4.10

Posted by: kost52 | August 27, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

All right, Lisa, it's in the book now. We'll check in with you next February and see how that turned out. (We may also speak before then.)

I do like the image of Grilliams wearingg his SB ringg on his middle fingger and waving it merrily at Dan. And then gettingg another head coachingg gigg and provingg everyone right who claimed he deserved a second chance.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 27, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

Go ahead. Keep Obama Bashing, all you Right Wingers here. We've asked nicely that politics go elsewhere--but nope. You have to bring your hate whereever you can.

So, don't ask the one or two Dems here to keep it down when Poppa McPoopypants has HIS convention...because payback's a Beeyotch.

And Lordy do we have the ammo....

Posted by: No Third Term for Bush, Inc. | August 27, 2008 4:51 PM

LOL!!! And if your ammo is anything like Poppa Mc Poopypants and beeyotch we all may have to ask the kids to leave the room.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 27, 2008 7:58 PM | Report abuse

sorry, 7:58 was me.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 27, 2008 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Maybe, but its not a football game. I care as much about the political views of sports fans as I care about the sports views of politicians. Lambert Field? The Texas Rangers? Losers.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 27, 2008 4:28 PM
********************************************
Can someone translate for me?
a. Lambert Field?
b. Texas Rangers? Losers.

Yes, I enjoy Football more
But Human Rights far transcends any of this "entertainment" of sports.

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | August 27, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

None of us are pro-war, but we have to determine when do we vote for it, for a greater cause than sitting back and letting others be terrorized.

We went to Europe to take on a cause greater because Hitler and the Nazis were crushing France and others in Europe.

Why is it we sit back and allow babies to be brutalized this way, and then say "Well, the woman has the right...."

The woman has the right to do what?
The woman has the right to end the human rights of another?

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | August 27, 2008 8:48 PM | Report abuse


Go ahead. Keep Obama Bashing, all you Right Wingers here. We've asked nicely that politics go elsewhere--but nope. You have to bring your hate whereever you can.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 27, 2008 8:42 PM
***********************************************

1- I'm not a Republican
2- Just because your candidate gets on TV and says he has more concern for Human Rights than the current President [fact; I saw him do it last weekend] all the while knowing his voting record is horrendously worse on Human Rights, don't be childish and say I am full of hate.

Irony: you run from the hypocrisy of your candidate on the issue, say the other guy is full of hate.
So, who ends up displaying the hate actually?

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | August 27, 2008 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Ray-
You're bringing a tear to my eye. Your arguments are spot on. Yes, the economy sucks, the war in Iraq has gone on for too long, and so on and so on.
Does anyone really believe that Obama or McCain will fix this things? Everything just gets recycled, redistributed, and replayed. Except for the abortion issue. When are we going to wake up and realize that we have killed more humans by abortion than those killed by Hitler and Stalin combined? How about instead of giving a woman the choice to abort a baby she makes the choice of keeping her legs shut.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 27, 2008 9:21 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of representing in "enemy territory," freakzilla and I nabbed some sweet tix to the Skins-Seahawks game in November.

Awesome seats, 50 yard line, near the bottom of the upper deck. Thanks, Seahawks season ticket holder who sold those tickets!

And what a lot of trouble we'll surely cause, the two of us! Yes, yes indeed.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 27, 2008 12:33 PM


Tickets arrived this afternoon. We're seats 3 & 4 in our row, so right by the aisle.

At halftime, we'll film a commercial like Pat Robertson and Al Sharpton (we both lose in that comparison) sitting on the beach in that stupid ad for Al Gore's bank account.

"Y'know, Nate, we may have our disagreements when it comes to politics, but we can both agree that Seahawks fans are boogerheads."

"Totally boogerheads, Zilla. Here are some Frank Black song lyrics illustrating my point."

And so on.

Posted by: freakzilla | August 27, 2008 9:23 PM | Report abuse

I miss Sean Taylor. I was not one of these people who claimed he was a great man only after he died. He was always a great player and a maturing young man.

When I think of Sean Taylor, I also think of Len Bias.

Do you remember where you were when it was announced he died. I was in 10th grade, and I received a call from a crying male friend. It was shocking because it was the first time I heard somebody that young die. I brought the Len Bias Reeboks the next day.

Posted by: sicwidit | August 27, 2008 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Go ahead. Keep Obama Bashing, all you Right Wingers here. We've asked nicely that politics go elsewhere--but nope. You have to bring your hate whereever you can.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 27, 2008 8:42 PM
***********************************************

1- I'm not a Republican
2- Just because your candidate gets on TV and says he has more concern for Human Rights than the current President [fact; I saw him do it last weekend] all the while knowing his voting record is horrendously worse on Human Rights, don't be childish and say I am full of hate.

Irony: you run from the hypocrisy of your candidate on the issue, say the other guy is full of hate.
So, who ends up displaying the hate actually?

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | August 27, 2008 9:00 PM

I did not post that Ray. Horrible cut and paste job. I actually laughed at the post you just posted as me.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 27, 2008 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Me at 9:51

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 27, 2008 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Sean Taylor was murdered! How tragic. He was killed before he had a chance to live.

Kinda sounds like abortion, doesn't it.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 27, 2008 9:53 PM | Report abuse

And yes Ray, I hate you for associating me with Obama.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 27, 2008 9:54 PM | Report abuse

When are we going to wake up and realize that we have killed more humans by abortion than those killed by Hitler and Stalin combined?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 27, 2008 9:21 PM

We? Who's we? How about you speak for yourself. And where did you get your statistics on how many abortions have been performed? The difference being those other atrocities were the responsibility of a couple people and the ones that followed their orders. Although abortion is so, so wrong, it's a personal choice. There is no we. But I have to say that I believe that choice should be taken away. I am pro life but think that comments like these above are not accurate and irresposible. Education and planning are the ways to change behaviors, not bs fear tactics that obviously don't work. do you really believe that if someone is going to have an abortion they really care if they're helping to "kill more people than Hitler and Stalin combined?"

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 27, 2008 10:01 PM | Report abuse

scampbell,

No I don't think they care that they're killing more humans than Hitler and Stalin. That's the problem. I agree that education is a key to solving this problem.
And its not a bs fear tactic. One can easily google for abortion statistics. The problems is we mourn for the Sean Taylor's and the Len Bias's of the world (and rightfully so to some degree), but each day senseless murders are performed BY SOMEONE'S PERSONAL CHOICE AND THOSE THAT FOLLOW ORDERS and no one bats an eye.
Where abortion is hidden, abortion is tolerated.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 27, 2008 10:17 PM | Report abuse

and just so you don't think i'm hiding:

rparrish 1966, i live in nebraska

Posted by: Anonymous | August 27, 2008 10:19 PM | Report abuse

For those keeping track of Bramlet:

BRAMLET TO BALTIMORE
Posted by Mike Florio on August 27, 2008, 9:58 p.m. EDT
We picked up two unconfirmed tips that quarterback Casey Bramlet could be joining the Ravens as soon as tomorrow. And so we rolled up our sleeves and confirmed it.

Bramlet is joining the Ravens.

The Chargers released Bramlet on Tuesday. He was in Miami for part of 2007 with Ravens offensive coordinator Cam Cameron, who was the coach of the Fins for the team’s disastrous 1-15 season.

It’s unclear whether the Ravens would be acquiring Bramlet, a non-vested veteran, by making a waiver claim, or by signing him as a free agent after he cleared waivers.

The addition of Bramlet would be a fairly strong signal that Kyle Boller is headed to injured reserve due to a shoulder injury suffered in the second preseason game, against the Vikings.

Posted by: Curzon417 | August 27, 2008 10:25 PM | Report abuse

screw this, where all the white women at?

Posted by: Jameel | August 27, 2008 10:29 PM | Report abuse

With the season so close, not sure why politics has taken over RI today...

Anyone hear if the Jags will be playing any starters tomorrow?

Would love to see if Kelly learned some of the playbook while he was recovering from his surgery. I would think that he would be the one 2nd round pick that would get the most playing time if healthy because of the position he has been learning. Thomas seems to be learning Moss' position so I don't see him getting as much playing time as Kelly.

Posted by: Curzon417 | August 27, 2008 10:31 PM | Report abuse

Tomorrow should also tell us alot about James, Jackson and Wilson. James may get the start. Be a good test to see how his knee is holding up.

Posted by: Curzon417 | August 27, 2008 10:44 PM | Report abuse

Redskins.com updated their site. Me likes it much better. Looks pretty snazzy. Too bad it is still propaganda. Oh well, can't have everything.

Posted by: Curzon417 | August 27, 2008 10:48 PM | Report abuse

i am so so so sorry i missed bill clinton's speach. loved his speach at the last convention. dang i miss having a president that could talk sense. dangit...anyone know where i can get the video?

Posted by: dealer | August 27, 2008 10:48 PM | Report abuse

Worse fear going into the the reg season is that Frost does enough to win the Punt off. Dude will revert back to form during real games and we will be stuck because Brooks will get picked up by another team.

Hope spending a 6th round on him is enough to keep him on the roster regardless of how Frost does.

Posted by: Curzon417 | August 27, 2008 10:54 PM | Report abuse

Would also like to see Mason get the start tomorrow or at least follow CP if he plays with the starters. This may be his last chance to play against the 2nd stringers and it would be nice to see how he does.

Posted by: Curzon417 | August 27, 2008 11:04 PM | Report abuse

WaPo, dudes you need to update your site and technology. Just been cruising the sports web sites out there and found the WaPo site lacking. Of course with the number of hits you guys get, why bother right? Still time to update!

Posted by: Curzon417 | August 27, 2008 11:14 PM | Report abuse

Curz, can you be more specific? What is it you find lacking? Just curious... and I think Cindy has proven to be receptive to suggestions on how to make this site run better, passing them along to the web dudes and etc.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 27, 2008 11:19 PM | Report abuse

As long as I am mono blogging I may as well push my pre-draft choice for QB Colt 45 Brennan. Hope to see him play most of the game tomorrow. At the very least Colt is going to give us a top draft choice if we trade him. In a couple of years he will be pushing JC to play some great ball or take up the clip board. Not hating on JC, just lovin on Colt 45. Like the future at QB for the Skins!!

Posted by: Curzon417 | August 27, 2008 11:19 PM | Report abuse

Hey Nate! Oh, just seems boring compared to other sites. To me kind of has a paper type look to it. Almost like looking at the JR videos. Needs some color, formatting change. Some Pizzas.

Could be the beer I'm drinking and a off night on the tube, and maps...

Posted by: Curzon417 | August 27, 2008 11:25 PM | Report abuse

Correction to my last post. It is NOT the beer. This Shiner Bock is some smooth stuff. Even better than the kool-aid I usually drink!

Posted by: Curzon417 | August 27, 2008 11:29 PM | Report abuse

I gotcha, Curz. It does seem like a while since there have been any big changes to the look and feel of the WashPo site -- maybe they're due for a makeover. Pleased to see they're investing in infrastructure like registration or the blog software or whatever the hell is happening behind the blog. Though I know it's not sexy. And it's hard to see all the benefits.

And here's a vote in favor of Shiner Bock. That's good stuff. Not everything out of Texas sucks.

Pizza sounds good. And maps.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 27, 2008 11:46 PM | Report abuse

How much does it suck to see Gustav's projected path with New Orleans right in the middle? At least it's not expected to be as strong at landfall as Katrina was... but still, this is scary stuff.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 28, 2008 12:01 AM | Report abuse

and just so you don't think i'm hiding:

rparrish 1966, i live in nebraska

Posted by: Anonymous | August 27, 2008 10:19 PM


I guess I can see that point of view. But I don't think it's really all that hidden. I think it's been a pretty big issue for a long time.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 28, 2008 12:08 AM | Report abuse

How much does it suck to see Gustav's projected path with New Orleans right in the middle? At least it's not expected to be as strong at landfall as Katrina was... but still, this is scary stuff.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 28, 2008 12:01 AM

Not a very happy thought at all. Those folks down there need a break.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2008 12:09 AM | Report abuse

That was me. I've been forgetiing to post my name a lot lately.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 28, 2008 12:09 AM | Report abuse

scamp, I've noticed that happening a lot lately, not just you but other folks as well.

Stupid five preseason games... here's hoping for NO injuries, get in and get out and get back to planning for the opener.

They should use a running clock in these stupid exhibition games. At least in the second half. They're already a sham, might as well be honest about it.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 28, 2008 1:06 AM | Report abuse

How much does it suck to see Gustav's projected path with New Orleans right in the middle? At least it's not expected to be as strong at landfall as Katrina was... but still, this is scary stuff.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 28, 2008 12:01 AM

I've been following the storm track for the past several days with dismay. At the same time, it's a great argument for not living below sea level. Back when New Orleans was first settled, the local Indians warned the settlers not to build there, for this exact reason.

It might end up a blessing that a good number of residents displaced by Katrina didn't come back.

Posted by: freakzilla | August 28, 2008 2:01 AM | Report abuse

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/27/AR2008082703596.html

I must say, I'm shocked Greg Blache gave this interview. These are grown men who shouldn't be having this conversation through the media.

That said, it was a very interesting read... and another superb column by Wise.

Posted by: OG Barno | August 28, 2008 2:19 AM | Report abuse

And yes, I'll shut up about this now. I just get riled up when I see garbage like this up here. Just makes me sick. (One of the Barnos used to take delight in posting a bunch of right-wing claptrap up here.)

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 27, 2008 4:06 PM

Not the Original (OG) Barno. I posted my thoughts on the Rooney rule and opinion on other discrimination issues, but don't recall posting right-wing material.

Must've been the new barno...has he been around lately?

Posted by: OG Barno | August 28, 2008 2:22 AM | Report abuse

To us og barno's words, SHUT IT!!!

Posted by: Curzon417 | August 27, 2008 12:57 PM

I don't remember ever saying "shut it." Sure that wasn't new barno?

Posted by: OG Barno | August 28, 2008 2:26 AM | Report abuse

"FYI, Chris Cooley has put a "hit" out on whoever stole Chief Zee's tomahawk. A free autographed Jersey if you can get it back to the skins."

Barno, this could be your chance!!!

Posted by: isnadd | August 27, 2008 2:05 PM

My ole lady said the same thing when she read about Cooley's reward. I'd probably have better luck getting his autograph than the beat reporter did...

Posted by: OG Barno | August 28, 2008 2:28 AM | Report abuse

OGB, two threads back, two comments attributed to your handle included variations on "shut it," one was "keep your mouth SHUT" and the other was just "SHUT !!"

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/08/kelly_ready_to_see_how_it_work.html

Are you saying there's a fake OG Barno? (Good grief...) Or that Curzon misquoted you? Or maps...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 28, 2008 2:31 AM | Report abuse

I posted a comment on the Wise article on Blache. Interesting, but the story doesn't add up to me.

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | August 28, 2008 2:38 AM | Report abuse

I'm not the only one who realizes rookie WRs don't do much. This from ESPN

Ways to lose your fantasy football league
By Gene Wojciechowski
1. Draft rookie receivers -- the earlier, the better: Ignore the recent and overwhelming statistical evidence that first-year wideouts, such as Ted Ginn Jr., Mike Williams, Matt Jones and Robert Meachem, are generally more useless than Bill Belichick news conferences.

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | August 28, 2008 3:16 AM | Report abuse

Good wise article.

What's the chances this was done with Snyder's blessing?

100%. This makes Snyder shine bright.

Posted by: 4th | August 28, 2008 6:07 AM | Report abuse

BRAMLET TO BALTIMORE
Posted by Mike Florio on August 27, 2008, 9:58 p.m. EDT

So, in the last two years Bramlet has been in Washington, Atlanta, Miami, San Diego, and Baltimore. That's five systems to learn. And we were feeling sorry for Campbell who only has to learn one new system each year. Of course, Campbell actually has to play in games which is probably harder than holding a clipboard in a new system.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 28, 2008 6:19 AM | Report abuse

Al, Wojo is a columnist. Don't listen to his fantasy advice. He WILL kill your season.

Politics (and abortion especially) have no place on this blog. No better way to start a riot.

I just read the Wise column on Blache and I'm confused as to why it was written. It's really just digging up old dirt for no really good reason. I could understand this piece if the Skins and Jags were facing off in the Super Bowl or something (PLEASE God!), when there's two weeks to exhaust EVERY story line imaginable. But on the day of a meaningless preseason game--I don't see the point.

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 28, 2008 6:20 AM | Report abuse

Wow, I just checked out the new Redskins.com--it actually looks like a 2008 website!

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 28, 2008 6:25 AM | Report abuse

Is "Lights Out" Merriman looking to turn the lights out on his career? When 5 doctors tell you to shut it down, you still play? Seriously? This guy must still be getting advice from LaVar...

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 28, 2008 6:48 AM | Report abuse

Who thinks Laron's Injury wasnt as bad as it seemed? Did he take a page from CP?

And about politics and abortion, and I am THE worst offender, we can stop the back and forth.

It is the same arguments, different day, same result - nothing.

Posted by: Zebra | August 28, 2008 7:08 AM | Report abuse

I just read the Wise column on Blache and I'm confused as to why it was written.

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 28, 2008 6:20 AM

I found the column to be must-read for Redskins fans, or at least for this fan. Here's what I learned that I didn't know before I read it:

1. Why Gregg Williams and Blache aren't buddies anymore after a fairly close friendship.

2. Why Blache took the job when he'd already planned to retire.

3. How Snyder operates and persuades -- much more subtley than the stereotype on Redskins Insider.

4. A bit more about the character of Blache.

5. A bit more about the process by which Gregg Williams departed.

Maybe you already knew this stuff, Brownwood, but for us who are late to the party it was a fascinating story, well told.

I also think the timing relates to Gregg's return to town. Blache wanted to get his side of the story out for Williams to read. He feels bad that they are no longer friends.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 28, 2008 7:20 AM | Report abuse

TE,

I agree completly. Williams needs to get over it. He got 1 mil to get kicked out the door, and his friend needs to look out for himself.

No issues with Blache or Snyder in this case.

Posted by: Zebra | August 28, 2008 7:32 AM | Report abuse

I did know most of that already, TE. I'll admit it is more in-depth than the previous versions I've heard, but I just don't see how a preseason game warrants such a long spread.

I think too much is being made of the two Greg(g)s not speaking. If you've ever been pissed at your buddy before, you know it's silent and awkward for a little while, but you're acting like nothing ever happened before you know it. If this little rift between these two lasts beyond this season I would be shocked.

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 28, 2008 7:35 AM | Report abuse

Most interesting nuggets from the Wise piece, to me: Snyder's sales pitch for the D coordinator job involved a miniscule pay raise and the claim that Blache had always been overpaid. (Seems like an odd ploy for the famously spendthrift owner.) Plus Snyder gave him a really cool shotgun with no strings attached.

Oh, and Blache had to not say anything when he talked to his friend and boss the next day, when he knew Grilliams was going to be fired and he had already been given Grilliams' job.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 28, 2008 7:37 AM | Report abuse

Yeah Nate;

Blache seemed to essentially be saying that if grilliams thinks he stabbed him in the back, he never knew who he really was then.

Posted by: Zebra | August 28, 2008 7:45 AM | Report abuse

Oh, give me a break. There is a freakin' Grape-Nuts ad at the top right on this page which has the text "It is what it is."

Hmm... actually, maybe that throwaway phrase is kind of helpful in this case. It sure isn't grapes and it isn't nuts, so maybe it's significant from a marketing perspective to make sure people understand that this cereal product is what it is.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 28, 2008 7:46 AM | Report abuse

Plus Snyder gave him a really cool shotgun with no strings attached.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 28, 2008 7:37 AM

I can't tell you how much I hate that term (almost as much as "irregardless"); if life has proven anything to me, it's that there's no such thing as "no strings attached". There are strings attached to everything; it's just a matter of whether or not the person with control pulls them or not.

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 28, 2008 7:59 AM | Report abuse

TE,

I agree completly. Williams needs to get over it. He got 1 mil to get kicked out the door, and his friend needs to look out for himself.

No issues with Blache or Snyder in this case.

Posted by: Zebra | August 28, 2008 7:32 AM

He dd not get a million...That was not in his contract...That was a rumor.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2008 8:01 AM | Report abuse

Brown;

What do you know about 'String Theory'?

Posted by: Zebra | August 28, 2008 8:03 AM | Report abuse

life has proven anything to me, it's that there's no such thing as "no strings attached". There are strings attached to everything; it's just a matter of whether or not the person with control pulls them or not.

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 28, 2008 7:59 AM

I can't subscribe to your bitter cynicism. This is not an empty phrase. We all give money to charities and to beggars on the street all the time with "no strings attached."

But, in this case there probably was a string attached: taxes. Dan Snyder claimed this as a business expense for the Redskins, reducing the taxes on the 'Skins profits. Blache should have reported the gift as a part of his compensation.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 28, 2008 8:17 AM | Report abuse

So I get home from work yesterday, and the SI Football Preview issue is there. I open it up, and start to read about what they say about the Redkins, and I'll paraphrase:

"How well Campbell does will effect Jim Zorn as the coach of this team. Given their LIMITED INTEREST in him, and their SIMMERING INTERST in a retired coach(Bill Cowher)...."

I stopped reading right there. The worst part of it was that it wasn't written by the guys who take the same tired cheap shots at the team, Banks, Zimmerman. It was someone I didn't recognize. Where does this garbage come from??

What a bunch of crap, and what a cheap, rag of a magazine lacking in all things having to do with journalistic integrity.

Posted by: Greg | August 28, 2008 8:18 AM | Report abuse

Where does this garbage come from??

Posted by: Greg | August 28, 2008 8:18 AM

I think they get a lot of it from Redskins Insider. I'm surprised they didn't say something like "The continued decline in this franchise since they failed to re-sign Antonio Pierce...."

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 28, 2008 8:26 AM | Report abuse

Greg, Greg, Greg. How can you be so cavalier as to dismiss the valiant work of SI, who for a generation have been striving to establish a legitimate link between sports news and photographs of women in (and out of) bathing costumes?

One could make a solid argument that without SI, there is no women's beach volleyball in the Olympics. And that, sir, is not a world I want to live in.

Good day to you.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 28, 2008 8:28 AM | Report abuse

te, classic. Yes, the signing from which the franchise will never recover...lol.

Does anyone know if the game is on NFL Network tonight?

Posted by: Greg | August 28, 2008 8:35 AM | Report abuse

I can't subscribe to your bitter cynicism. This is not an empty phrase. We all give money to charities and to beggars on the street all the time with "no strings attached."

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 28, 2008 8:17 AM

It's not bitter cynicism at all. Just life, bro. When you give to charity, they send you a bunch of stuff to get you to keep sending more. Strings. Everytime you see that same "beggar" in the street, he'll ask you for more because you gave before. String. Dating a "friend with benefits" (from my single days of course); all the sex and none of the commitment. Until she catches feelings. String. Whether he/she pulls it or not is the question, not whether or not there's a string.

Greg, SI lost points with me years ago. Plus I hate baseball and that's all SI is during the summer months. They're shoveling the same crap ESPN has been pushing, only in print.

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 28, 2008 8:36 AM | Report abuse

One could make a solid argument that without SI, there is no women's beach volleyball in the Olympics. And that, sir, is not a world I want to live in.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 28, 2008 8:28 AM

Three words:

nude rhythmic gymnastics

The original olymians, on Mount Olympus, competed nude. Why has this tradition been dismissed from our "modern" olympics?

Hey, if you got it, flaunt it. My faluting days are behind me. Actually, not even there, either.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 28, 2008 8:36 AM | Report abuse

te, classic. Yes, the signing from which the franchise will never recover...lol.

Does anyone know if the game is on NFL Network tonight?

Posted by: Greg | August 28, 2008 8:35 AM

I'm pretty sure it's on CBS, actually. At least it is in central PA.

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 28, 2008 8:39 AM | Report abuse

Greg,

It is on national TV I think CBS.

Posted by: kmdp4 | August 28, 2008 8:44 AM | Report abuse

Greg,

It is on national TV I think CBS.

Posted by: kmdp4 | August 28, 2008 8:44 AM

NBC I believe...

Posted by: Chris | August 28, 2008 8:45 AM | Report abuse

brown,

did you think you were supposed to get the game on comcast last week?

When it blacked out i was pissed. i had guests there to watch the thing...

Posted by: Zebra | August 28, 2008 8:49 AM | Report abuse

sweet, thanks....

Posted by: Greg | August 28, 2008 8:53 AM | Report abuse

crap, just realized the stupid local football team plays tonight, and that will most likely be on.

I really loathe the pats....

Posted by: Greg | August 28, 2008 8:57 AM | Report abuse

te, classic. Yes, the signing from which the franchise will never recover...lol.

Does anyone know if the game is on NFL Network tonight?

Posted by: Greg | August 28, 2008 8:35 AM

I'm pretty sure it's on CBS, actually. At least it is in central PA.

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 28, 2008 8:39 AM

Here in Southwest Ohio too.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2008 8:58 AM | Report abuse

I'm so confused, I was solidly in Greg's corner until the Nate post. I think I've come up with a solution.

Less words, more photos.

Posted by: Skinz | August 28, 2008 8:59 AM | Report abuse

No, no, no.
The game is going to be broadcast nationally on NBC.

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | August 28, 2008 9:00 AM | Report abuse

The game is on NBC - nationally televised. John Madden is at Redskins Park.

Posted by: Lisa | August 28, 2008 9:04 AM | Report abuse

brown,

did you think you were supposed to get the game on comcast last week?

When it blacked out i was pissed. i had guests there to watch the thing...

Posted by: Zebra | August 28, 2008 8:49 AM

I didn't know for sure. I just flipped thru the schedule on my TV and I didn't see it. Thank God. If I would have seen it live, I probably would have started a riot in my neighborhood.

I knew it would be on network TV; I just mixed up ABC and CBS.

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 28, 2008 9:05 AM | Report abuse

Oh yeah, as a post script Today is the first day of real football for a blessed 5 months.

Ah the simple things in life...

Posted by: Skinz | August 28, 2008 9:06 AM | Report abuse

I believe the game is on NBC tonight at 7:00 (ET).

Posted by: GA_Skinz_Fan | August 28, 2008 9:09 AM | Report abuse

Maske on A Longer Season... I find that encouraging. Just hope they go later in the year --rather than starting in early August, go through January.

Posted by: cload & daggar | August 28, 2008 9:14 AM | Report abuse

The original olymians, on Mount Olympus, competed nude. Why has this tradition been dismissed from our "modern" olympics? Hey, if you got it, flaunt it. My faluting days are behind me. Actually, not even there, either.

They're 13 year old Chinese girls, for chrissakes. I'd say, 'not that there's anything wrong with that', but there is.

Posted by: cload & daggar | August 28, 2008 9:16 AM | Report abuse

The game is on NBC - nationally televised. John Madden is at Redskins Park.

When Madden is around Redskins Park, he stands around Redskins Park.

Posted by: cload & daggar | August 28, 2008 9:19 AM | Report abuse

But, in this case there probably was a string attached: taxes. Dan Snyder claimed this as a business expense for the Redskins, reducing the taxes on the 'Skins profits. Blache should have reported the gift as a part of his compensation.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 28, 2008 8:17 AM

Gifts under $10,000 are not taxable. You are mistaken this with people that win prizes from game shows.....

Posted by: 4th | August 28, 2008 9:28 AM | Report abuse

KMDP,
The examiner said NBC. 7 PM

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 28, 2008 9:29 AM | Report abuse

Hey where has our fearless commish from across the pond been?

Posted by: Skinz | August 28, 2008 9:32 AM | Report abuse

Actually it's gifts under 11k per person per year. So technically Danny and his wife could give a gift worth 22k in a year and not have to pay taxes on it to one individual.

Posted by: Skinz | August 28, 2008 9:34 AM | Report abuse

NFC Play offs
1.Dallas (13-3 or 12-4)
2. New Orleans (11-5)
3.Green Bay (10-6)
4.Seattle (10-6)
5.Washington (11-5 or 10-6)
6.Philly or New York (10-6)

Posted by: FAB88 | August 28, 2008 9:37 AM | Report abuse

KMDP,
The examiner said NBC. 7 PM

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 28, 2008 9:29 AM

Thanks Alex,

Posted by: kmdp4 | August 28, 2008 9:37 AM | Report abuse

Actually it's gifts under 11k per person per year. So technically Danny and his wife could give a gift worth 22k in a year and not have to pay taxes on it to one individual.

Posted by: Skinz | August 28, 2008 9:34 AM

That shows how long I've been out of school........

Posted by: 4th | August 28, 2008 9:38 AM | Report abuse

They're 13 year old Chinese girls, for chrissakes. I'd say, 'not that there's anything wrong with that', but there is.

Posted by: cload & daggar | August 28, 2008 9:16 AM

Hell if it isn't something wrong with that! And I am glad you made it clear that there is something wrong with it.

Posted by: jm220 | August 28, 2008 9:40 AM | Report abuse

AFC Playoffs
1.New England (13-3)
2.Indianapolis (12-4)
3.San Diego (11-5)
4.Pittsburgh (10-6)
5.Jacksonville (11-5)
6.Cleveland (10-6)

Posted by: FAB88 | August 28, 2008 9:40 AM | Report abuse

Story from the Times, posting the entire thing for people who can not get the site at work.

REDSKINS BUBBLE WATCH

Thursday, August 28, 2008
Here's a look at some key position battles with final cuts needed less than 48 hours after the final preseason game:

WIDE RECEIVER

Safe: Santana Moss, Antwaan Randle El, James Thrash, Malcolm Kelly, Devin Thomas

On the bubble: Billy McMullen

In trouble: Anthony Mix, Horace Gant, Maurice Mann

Skinny: McMullen is in a similar situation as Mason, although the injuries that have slowed Kelly and Thomas could help him.

OFFENSIVE LINE

Safe: Chris Samuels, Jon Jansen, Pete Kendall, Randy Thomas, Casey Rabach, Stephon Heyer, Chad Rinehart, Jason Fabini


Safety Chris Horton, a seventh-round pick this year, appears safe to make the team. (Peter Lockley/The Washington Times)

On the bubble: Justin Geisinger, Andrew Crummey, Todd Wade

In trouble: Devin Clark, Fred Matua, Tavares Washington

Skinny: Probably only one spot for one of the players trying to be the backup center or Wade, who has missed most of camp with an ankle injury.

LINEBACKERS

Safe: London Fletcher, Marcus Washington, Rocky McIntosh, H.B. Blades, Khary Campbell

On the bubble: Alfred Fincher

In trouble: David Holloway, Danny Verdun-Wheeler

Skinny: Only keeping two backups with McIntosh coming back from knee surgery could be a risk. They also could grab someone else's castoff as a potential No. 6 linebacker.

CORNERBACKS

Safe: Shawn Springs, Carlos Rogers, Fred Smoot

On the bubble: Leigh Torrence, Justin Tryon, Matterral Richardson

In trouble: Byron Westbrook, Cedrick Holt

Skinny: Torrence is probably safe, especially if they keep five corners, and it would be an upset for the undrafted Richardson to beat out a fourth-round pick in Tryon.

SAFETIES

Safe: LaRon Landry, Reed Doughty, Kareem Moore, Chris Horton

On the bubble: Justin Hamilton

In trouble: Patrick Ghee

Skinny: This is another position at which the Redskins could look at other teams' cuts for a veteran reserve.

SPECIALISTS

Safe: Ethan Albright, Shaun Suisham

On the bubble: Derrick Frost, Durant Brooks

Skinny: They're both going to punt against the Jaguars, so maybe one great punt is the final factor.

Posted by: kmdp4 | August 28, 2008 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Vinny said the other day that both Horton and Moore will make the team. I also think Erasmus James will make the team - was a little worried about Chris Wilson until "Mr. Mouth Michael" said yesterday that he did not see how Wilson will not make the team since he had 5 sacks last season and would be picked up by another team immediately.

Posted by: Lisa | August 28, 2008 9:52 AM | Report abuse

Wade is gone, no way he makes the team, too brittle, and time for some youth. I think Geisinger makes it as a backup center. I think Fincher makes the team as well.

Posted by: Greg | August 28, 2008 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Re: Dinner and a Job, But There's a Cost

This makes Blache look like a backstabber. It's not like he had to take it b/c he was worried about being ousted by the next DC. He was planning on retiring. Snyder already looks bad, so not more qualification needed about his "buying people" methods of persuasion.

My loyalty would be to my friend. I couldn't have had that conversation. I would have at least had to tell him "off the record" or something. You know Gregg[gggg] was going on about Snyder and Blache didn't say a word.

Also, those who bashed guys like S. Taylor and Springs for not returning the HC calls as a courtesy should take note of Synder and Vinny not calling Williams back.

Posted by: D. Johns | August 28, 2008 9:57 AM | Report abuse

I think there is 3 OG Barno's going around. Becuase I was the fake OG Barno that posted "shut it up" & "shut" but then there was someone else a few minutes LATER also under the disguise of OG Barno that put: "just shut up MAN" ...... and if that was the real OG Barno, he would never sat idly and let me mimmick him, and then chose to chime in with: "just shut up man" afterwards...........so if anything that person was trying to mimmick me the fake (2nd) OG Barno which would technically make him the 3rd OG Barno. Who knows maybe there is a 4th OG Barno too ?

Posted by: Where's Barno ??? | August 28, 2008 10:00 AM | Report abuse

I can't see Wilson making this team, I really can't. Jackson has shown some flash's, and James has more potential than Wilson does. Just my thoughts...

Posted by: Greg | August 28, 2008 10:01 AM | Report abuse

I fail to see the connection between Taylor calling Gibbs and Danny calling back Grilliams. First off, the simple fact that Danny did something is enough to make me run the other way and do the opposite.

Posted by: Da Truef | August 28, 2008 10:02 AM | Report abuse

Johns,

He took the job for his coaches and players, Williams was gone anyway there is no backstabbing. As far as telling Greg, if he gave his word to Dan that he would not say anything, then I respect him for keeping his word.

There is a difference in not calling a employee back that you might be getting ready to let go, and not calling back a HOF coach that is your new boss.

Posted by: kmdp4 | August 28, 2008 10:02 AM | Report abuse

Wade is gone, no way he makes the team, too brittle, and time for some youth. I think Geisinger makes it as a backup center. I think Fincher makes the team as well.

Posted by: Greg | August 28, 2008 9:56 AM

Greg, agree on Wade. Gone. I think that Crummy would be more versatile than Geisinger and he also played center during the preseason. Plus Geisinger may survive to make it to the practice squad. Not sure Crummy would.

Posted by: Curzon417 | August 28, 2008 10:06 AM | Report abuse

Article on the expanding of the regular season gets me juiced. Though the comment section is the first fan chain I ever saw with people calling for a shorter season?!

I like the idea of extending to a 17 or 18 game schedule. (so long as a 17 game schedule means teams play one neutral game a year.)

If we want to develop players we need a AAA type system, the problem with NFL Europe was it did not accept itself as a minor league and spent way too much money to be successful. A minor league means you don't get to put the team on a private plane, or play in a pro-stadium, or get the best everything, if they budgeted within their means it would have worked better. Also you need 32 teams so that players learn the system they will be playing in.

How many people in Virginia Beach/Norfolk or Richmond do you think would enjoy going to watch Colt develop for 2-4 years in 8-10 real game situations? Who here wouldn't go on a trip to VA beach to see a game over a weekend, and watch Colt and a handful of our up and comers play?

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 28, 2008 10:11 AM | Report abuse

First a missing tomahawk, now an OG Barno identity crisis ? Good Grief !!!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2008 10:11 AM | Report abuse

Hell I already have the logo and uniform drafted up for a skins minor league team. I am such a dork for that stuff.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 28, 2008 10:12 AM | Report abuse

I like Alex's AAA idea. I would definitely watch. You could schedule it from March to June to get your football fix. And I'm not talking Arena league or CFL stuff. This would technically be Redskins football. I like the idea.

Posted by: Earl Sugarloaf III | August 28, 2008 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Curz, I'd like both guys to make the team to be honest. How big is Crummey??

To refresh, the deal with him was an injured leg coming out of college correct?? Otherwise he was thought of as a pretty good prospect, if my more holes than swiss cheese memory serves me.

Posted by: Greg | August 28, 2008 10:19 AM | Report abuse

If I can get Earl I can get anyone, it just needs the right marketing.

You have pro-franchises put teams in smallish stadiums 20-30K in their market territory. Think B-C class cities a few hours away.

So Southern VA for the skins, Raleigh for the Panthers, Deleware or south Jersey for the Eagles, ect.

Hype players as the stars of tomorrow for your team, have them play in small 8 team conferences broken down by region to cut down on cost.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 28, 2008 10:20 AM | Report abuse

Expanding the regular season is an AWFUL idea.

Posted by: The Truth | August 28, 2008 10:21 AM | Report abuse

Chiefs tomahowk has been returned. As reported by Chris Cooleys Brother!

http://chriscooley47.blogspot.com/2008/08/thanks-from-superskin.html

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 28, 2008 10:22 AM | Report abuse

the tomahawk has been returned, thanks to Cooley, the guy is now the Redskins' Hostage Negotiator

Posted by: BluCollar Redskin | August 28, 2008 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Your on to something Alex.....with all the mentioning of the B-C class cities like Norfolk or Newport News or something like that. One question, what would you do with a city like say: Jacksonville ? Stick the farm team in like Ocala, Florida ?

Posted by: Earl Sugarloaf III | August 28, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

Expanding the regular season is an AWFUL idea.

Posted by: The Truth | August 28, 2008 10:21 AM

Sure it is, if you hat football, america, mom and apple pie.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 28, 2008 10:26 AM | Report abuse

If I can get Earl I can get anyone, it just needs the right marketing.

You have pro-franchises put teams in smallish stadiums 20-30K in their market territory. Think B-C class cities a few hours away.

So Southern VA for the skins, Raleigh for the Panthers, Deleware or south Jersey for the Eagles, ect.

Hype players as the stars of tomorrow for your team, have them play in small 8 team conferences broken down by region to cut down on cost.


Posted by: Alex35332 | August 28, 2008 10:20 AM

I'm guessing this is a discussion about minor league football. I think it's a great idea. I can only compare farm league baseball but I can tell you that in Dayton, OH we have the Dragons. They are the farm league for the Reds. In this area they are more popular than their major league big brothers, the Reds. The Reds suck a$$ and the Dragons seem to consistently play well. The games are fun and the stadium is very nice. The same can be said for the Bombers, the minor league hockey team.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 28, 2008 10:26 AM | Report abuse

I agree Alex, the Truth is....that the Truth is none other than Vladimir Putin. Only a communist could want less football.


Also, reason #100000000 why I love the internet.

I read that article and well written piece by that redskins superfan on Cooley's blog and I'm getting all sentimental about the Skins and then I read the comments where some guy is ripping him for wearing spandex. Hilarious, only on the internet.

Posted by: Skinz | August 28, 2008 10:30 AM | Report abuse

I have thought about that one for a while, I think Florida with three teams you do the following. Give Miami one in Daytona (I would need to look if they have a solid stadium). TB puts theirs in Orlando, market makes the most sense. I would then give Jaxsonville the option of going way over to Tallahassee or putting one in GA on the coast maybe even Charleston SC.

The issue with Florida is they have their College football obsession, and the markets saturated.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 28, 2008 10:31 AM | Report abuse

Sean Taylor was murdered! How tragic. He was killed before he had a chance to live.

Kinda sounds like abortion, doesn't it.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 27, 2008 9:53 PM

Only a little ... the 23 week fetus with trisomy 21 and spina bifida would be better at strong safety.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2008 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Greg, according to the team page their sizes are below. I agree it would be nice to keep them both and would like to see that happen by cutting JF. And your memory is right on the leg injury keeping Crummey from being drafted. He was thought of highly as I remember it.

Crummey 6'5" 301
Geisinger 6'2" 315

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2008 10:34 AM | Report abuse

I'm guessing this is a discussion about minor league football. I think it's a great idea. I can only compare farm league baseball but I can tell you that in Dayton, OH we have the Dragons. They are the farm league for the Reds. In this area they are more popular than their major league big brothers, the Reds. The Reds suck a$$ and the Dragons seem to consistently play well. The games are fun and the stadium is very nice. The same can be said for the Bombers, the minor league hockey team.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 28, 2008 10:26 AM


Now imagine if the Bungles threw ya a franchise. Though I always guessed theirs would go to KY and Cleveland would go to Columbus, but Dayton makes some sense too.

More football = good.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2008 10:37 AM | Report abuse

More football = good.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2008 10:37 AM

Me obviously

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 28, 2008 10:39 AM | Report abuse

thanks anon, I say keep them both.

Posted by: Greg | August 28, 2008 10:40 AM | Report abuse

Which is the true Center and which is the true Guard between Geisinger and Crummey ?

Which has shown to be the better O-Lineman thus far in camp ?

Which is more versatile ?

Where did we get these guys from ?
Were they Undrafted Free Agent's in 08' ?

Posted by: Earl Sugarloaf III | August 28, 2008 10:41 AM | Report abuse

I could see major money issues with a minor league Football system. baseball with its farm systems and Basketball with its developmental leagues are a lot easiewr to fund due to team size. Some monetary issue starting with general pay scale, guy goes from possibly making a league min 500gs to what 100 at most in the minors that would be a high end contract. then travel costs for the size of the team and equipment involved. Then a major issue would be injury settlements. Youll get all asorts of people injured wanting to settle for NFL type money instread of minor league money. I would love to see a development league happen in the US but it seems extremely far off.

Posted by: Stu | August 28, 2008 10:43 AM | Report abuse

Earl,

Crummey was an undrafted free agent, from Maryland

Geisinger was drafted by Tennessee 6th round, from Purdue, I believe.

Posted by: Greg | August 28, 2008 10:43 AM | Report abuse

The Eagles, or maybe the Giants, could set up their AAA operation in Scranton and call themselves the Dunders. Or, maybe the Mifflens? Or why not the Michael Scotts?

What would you want the Redskins AAA team to be called?

The Ravens would obviously call their team the Hon's

Posted by: swb | August 28, 2008 10:44 AM | Report abuse

"Expanding the regular season is an AWFUL idea.

Posted by: The Truth | August 28, 2008 10:21 AM

Sure it is, if you hat football, america, mom and apple pie.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 28, 2008 10:26 AM "

Actually the exact opposite. I want to see a high level of play in the playoffs, not backups because all the starters are injured.


Do yall have any idea how incredibly tough the current regular season is in the NFL? And yall want to expand that?

Posted by: The Truth | August 28, 2008 10:44 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: chrIS lArry | August 28, 2008 10:53 AM | Report abuse

What would yo want the Redskins AAA team to be called?
The Ravens would obviously call their team the Hon's
Posted by: swb | August 28, 2008 10:44 AM

Well I guessed the Ravens would be in Annapolis and called the, blue crabs, but there is now an indy baseball team in South MD with that name.

If the skins moved to Richmond, I would actually use a spinoff of the Skins '72's helmet with a lower case 'r' in the helmet and 1 feather rather than 2, gold jersey white pants and burgundy trim. Continue the native american theme (respectfully), maybe use the name tribe or something.

If they were in Norfolk or Virginia Beach, I would guess naval theme.

However for any Virginia team I have always been a fan of the name copperheads, do a whole snake theme, diamond-like patterns going down the pants leg like the pattern on a viper.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 28, 2008 10:53 AM | Report abuse

TE,

I agree completly. Williams needs to get over it. He got 1 mil to get kicked out the door, and his friend needs to look out for himself.

No issues with Blache or Snyder in this case.

Posted by: Zebra | August 28, 2008 7:32 AM

He dd not get a million...That was not in his contract...That was a rumor.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2008 8:01 AM

fwiw, Williams is ggettingg paid the same $$$ in Jax as he was in DC ($3mil?). Most of Williams salary is beingg paid by Danny. I think Williams contract was unlike a player contract. He ggets paid in full for the entire lenggth of the contract no matter where he is.

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | August 28, 2008 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Do yall have any idea how incredibly tough the current regular season is in the NFL? And yall want to expand that?

Posted by: The Truth | August 28, 2008 10:44 AM

Do you have any idea how boring the off season is? you want to expand that.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 28, 2008 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Crummey 6'5" 301
Geisinger 6'2" 315

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2008 10:34 AM

Was me.

Posted by: Curzon417 | August 28, 2008 10:57 AM | Report abuse

A minature (even more so than usual) Danny Snyder with itty bitty angel wings came to me in my sleep last night. Extra-mini angel-winged Danny Snyder fluttered around my head gently. Quietly he spoke, exhorting me to take some action. What, I said, please extra-mini agnel-winged Danny Snyder, speak so I can hear your wishes. This time his words were clear -- under your pillow, he said, you will find a pair of burgandy-and-gold rimmed glasses. Take these glasses, he said in his beautiful mellifluous voice, take them and go out into your yard, behind the lilac bush that needs pruning. Go there and unearth the stone tablets that await you. Use the glasses to decipher what the tablet says. Reason got the best of me, and I took a violent swat at extra-mini angel-winged Danny Snyder but came up empty. Nice try, sucker, he said, not so gently this time. Get the glasses and go get the tablets -- your actions could save the Redskins, could even get them to the Super Bowl this year. So I did, and found the tablets where he said they were. Laboring over the kitchen table, I put on the glasses and leaned over the tablets. I brushed away some soil, then repositioned the light to see it better. The glasses worked, and the previously indistinguisable hashes and runes suddenly became clear, the words were distinct. It said: "Take this table to Six Flags. You and your family will receive 15% off regularly priced admission. Have fun, and don't forget to try the delicious powdered-sugar waffle cakes and an ice-cold Coca-Cola product."

Posted by: Moron-i | August 28, 2008 10:57 AM | Report abuse

I have thought about that one for a while, I think Florida with three teams you do the following. Give Miami one in Daytona (I would need to look if they have a solid stadium). TB puts theirs in Orlando, market makes the most sense. I would then give Jaxsonville the option of going way over to Tallahassee or putting one in GA on the coast maybe even Charleston SC.

The issue with Florida is they have their College football obsession, and the markets saturated.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 28, 2008 10:31 AM

Savannah, they could use it.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 28, 2008 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Moron-i,

Boosh excellent.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 28, 2008 10:59 AM | Report abuse

You mean Jaxsville isnt a AAA team city already??????

Posted by: Great One | August 28, 2008 10:59 AM | Report abuse

The Ravens would obviously call their team the Hon's

Posted by: swb | August 28, 2008 10:44 AM

Actually they should be named the Pigeons or the Yardbirds.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 28, 2008 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Moron-i | August 28, 2008 10:57 AM

Classic, great post.
it was funny at the end, at first I thought you have watched National Treasure too many times, but the ending was quite funny

Posted by: Great One | August 28, 2008 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Good stuff Moron-i

Keep coming with it. You should do one for Vinny Cerrato

Posted by: Earl Sugarloaf III | August 28, 2008 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Wait for it...wait for it....I'm actually going AFC....JAX! Gregg Williams will get his ring and wave it in Snyder's face.

Posted by: Lisa | August 27, 2008 5:52 PM

In my pre-season power ranking (i.e., betting) rankings, I had this one too ... but Lisa obviously gets dibs. My (betting only) prediction for who they face in the big game is ... Seattle. My dreams, hopes, and aspirations, obviously have a certain Zornified NFC East team winning that big game. Good thing its not time to put money on the table yet.

I do, however, currently have the Skins beating the Giants next week (both in my dreams as well as my monetary predictions). On a scale of 1-17 (where 17 is most confident), I currently have the Skins win as an 8.

Posted by: dcsween | August 28, 2008 11:05 AM | Report abuse

What about Minnesota or Seattle. i dont think people is Seattle are gonna want to drive to portland to see their AAA, maybe Vancover if you wanted to go intl but then your infringing on CFL territory and nobody messes with the CFL

Posted by: STU | August 28, 2008 11:05 AM | Report abuse

I think Geisinger makes the squad as the backup C/G. He's a 2 yr vet is not eligible for the practice squad. Crummey will make the practice squad if he clears wavers. Wade should be cut this year -- he's injured yet again + Fabini, Heyer, and Rinehart can all backup at T.

Posted by: Siris | August 28, 2008 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Scramp.

the US has over 70/metro areas cities with over 500,000 people. Most sports leagues have 30ish teams. A lot of places could handle it I imagine.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 28, 2008 11:07 AM | Report abuse

I'm all for having some football in the offseason, but you can't ask these guys to play 2 more weeks. Do the lame B-league yall are talking about, but that's not gonna happen. NFL is gonna expand the regular season and the quality of play will drop as a result. Get over it, stop being greedy.


Also, no way Charleston could fit a stadium in the downtown. Although my former college, CoC, is STILL undefeated in college football. Much better than any school, ever, with that impressive ZERO LOSSES in their win/loss column.

Posted by: The Truth | August 28, 2008 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Redskins 35, Giants 17

Posted by: The Truth | August 28, 2008 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Correction ... scale of 1-16.

Of the guys who get cut by the Skins to make the final roster size, I predict the first one to sign with another team will either be a defensive end or a punter.

Posted by: dcsween | August 28, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

You can also have the 2 closets teams via oroximity share a team:

Such as:

* NYJ/NYG could be based in NYC area.
* Buf/NE could be based in NY State or Conn.
* Phi/Bal based in the Delmarva
* Was/Car based in Southern VA
* SF/Oak - Norther Cali
* Girls/Texans - San Antionio
* JVille/ATL - South GA
* TB/MIA
* SD/Sea (I know-not close but lets roll with it)
* Cin/Cle
* Indy/Chi
* Minn/GB
* STL/KC

And that's just off the top of my head.....

Expand the rosters to 78 players, and relegate 22 of them to the minor league team and call some up and send some down as you will on a weekly 20 regular season game basis with 2 bye weeks.

Posted by: 4th | August 28, 2008 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Truth, I'll take the under. Its going to be a very ugly game offensively ... for both teams.

Posted by: dcsween | August 28, 2008 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Portland is an interesting one, they are one of those cities that could justify a pro-team, as they have with other sports. And cities like that you have to be careful with I bett. Not to mention the biggest football stadium is a baseball stadium that holds 18,000 so it may be too small. Not like your gonna build stadiums for it until it proves a successful model. But in Portland Case, its a big enough city that you would not need many Seattleites coming to games.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 28, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

You mean Jaxsville isnt a AAA team city already??????

Posted by: Great One | August 28, 2008 10:59 AM

Hey, it's a great city. A city that gave us Molly Hatchet. A city that keeps giving us Molly Hatchet.

Posted by: SMACK | August 28, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

jay mariotti quits newspapers:

http://cbs2chicago.com/sports/jay.mariotti.quits.2.803995.html

Posted by: chrIS lArry | August 28, 2008 10:53 AM

Posted by: Who Gives a Sh-it | August 28, 2008 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 28, 2008 11:12 AM

That's a good one. You could also consider San Antonio, Oklahoma City. Maybe muscle in on Arena Football Territory with Orlando & San Jose. Just a couple off the top of my head.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2008 11:15 AM | Report abuse

4th,
The problem then is, whose system are they learning? If you end up with a WC system vs a non WC system 1 team's players don't develop.

That was so often the problem with NFL Europe.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 28, 2008 11:15 AM | Report abuse

That was so often the problem with NFL Europe.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 28, 2008 11:15 AM

Then, they should just buy out Arena league 1 & 2 and expand it to 32 teams.

Posted by: 4th | August 28, 2008 11:18 AM | Report abuse

jay mariotti quits newspapers: http//: ...

Posted by: chrIS lArry | August 28, 2008 10:53 AM

Posted by: Who Gives a Sh-it | August 28, 2008 11:13 A

His wife?

Posted by: dcsween | August 28, 2008 11:18 AM | Report abuse

Redskins 24 Giants 17

Posted by: FAB88 | August 28, 2008 11:20 AM | Report abuse

Gifts under $10,000 are not taxable. You are mistaken this with people that win prizes from game shows.....

Posted by: 4th | August 28, 2008 9:28 AM

4th--Wouldn't this depend on whether (a) Dan Snyder paid for the gun out of his pocket and did not deduct it, or (b) the Redskins paid for the gun and claimed it as a business expense? In the latter case couldn't the IRS interpret the "gift" as an element of Blache's income?

I am not a tax accountant and I did not stay at a Holiday Inn Express.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 28, 2008 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Played it in Madden 09 last night. Score was 24-14 skins. Portis had 85 yds a TD, JC had a TD to cooley and one to Davis.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 28, 2008 11:24 AM | Report abuse

You mean Jaxsville isnt a AAA team city already??????

Posted by: Great One | August 28, 2008 10:59 AM

Hey, it's a great city. A city that gave us Molly Hatchet. A city that keeps giving us Molly Hatchet.

Posted by: SMACK | August 28, 2008 11:12 AM


Are you trying to help or hurt your point by this post???????

Cant tell

Posted by: Great One | August 28, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Oh thats one reason I think that they don't have a serious minor league. Some cities: Green Bay, Jaxonville, Buffalo, Oakland. Would probably end up being relegated eventually to the minor league over a more logical big city pro-team: Milwaukee, Orlando, Toronto, Los Angeles.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2008 11:29 AM | Report abuse

i seriously doubt Green Bay is going to be relegated to the minor leagues same for Buffalo.

Posted by: Stu | August 28, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Oh thats one reason I think that they don't have a serious minor league. Some cities: Green Bay, Jaxonville, Buffalo, Oakland. Would probably end up being relegated eventually to the minor league over a more logical big city pro-team: Milwaukee, Orlando, Toronto, Los Angeles.
Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2008 11:29 AM

You could kill 2 west coast birds with 1 stone. Grant the Raiders Franchise the rights to Los-Angeles, the LA team becomes their Pro-team, and keep the Oakland Raiders as a AAA team.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 28, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Stu,

I am not saying it would be popular, but if it means more money from a larger fanbase, who knows.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 28, 2008 11:37 AM | Report abuse

That was so often the problem with NFL Europe.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 28, 2008 11:15 AM

Well that and the fact that NFL Europe was located in Europe when all it's fans are located here.

Posted by: Skinz | August 28, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

chris larry michaels

Coincidence? I think not.

Posted by: | August 28, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

What gives?

It's the day of the final pre-season game and we have no new news from the proclaimed RI. How's Taylor, Jansen, Wade, Landry, offensive worries, break throughs, is Gregg going to head-hunt our offensive stars to seek closure and stick it to Mr. Snyder for shunning him as Gibbs hier, etc...Ja La is serioulsy slacking.

Posted by: Devo | August 28, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

That too.

If you can average 28,000 fans in soccer land, why not 30-35 thousand hear at least?

Charge an average of $15 per ticket, thats $420,000- $525,000 a game.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 28, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

i played it on madden also..and i got 24-17 skins..portis had 128 yds and 2td's..and jc had a td to cooley wit 1:12 left in the 4th..played against my friend who is a giants fan

Posted by: FAB88 | August 28, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

It's the day of the final pre-season game and we have no new news from the proclaimed RI.

Posted by: Devo | August 28, 2008 11:39 AM

I was expecting to read something about the Redskins banquet yesterday. They covered it on TV last night, but nothing in RI. Didn't anyone from the Post get invited?

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 28, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Cindy just woke up... I forgot to set the alarm.

Posted by: Fred Davis | August 28, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Apparently I'm sleeping with her now????

Posted by: Fred Davis | August 28, 2008 11:53 AM | Report abuse

why are people impersonating me? I did do the first post saying "SHUT IT" but I was just joking. And the last person that posted as me was not me.

Posted by: OG Barno | August 28, 2008 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Gmen - 17 , Skins -14

And I will love it when you all come on here Friday next week and tell me how wrong I am... just thinking realistically... I called 4-2 in division a while ago and i am sticking to it.

Posted by: Zebra | August 28, 2008 11:54 AM | Report abuse

I think we figured out the issue with Barno;

multiple personallity disorder.... it only affects him while he blogs...

Posted by: Zebra | August 28, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

i played it on madden also..and i got 24-17 skins..portis had 128 yds and 2td's..and jc had a td to cooley wit 1:12 left in the 4th..played against my friend who is a giants fan

Posted by: FAB88 | August 28, 2008 11:47 AM

interesting...

Did you also get an Int with LL in the 1st drive by the Gints?

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 28, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

actually i had smoot get the INT on the giants first drive

Posted by: FAB88 | August 28, 2008 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Just goes to show how Madden is scripted...

Posted by: Zebra | August 28, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

beep! beep!

Posted by: | August 28, 2008 12:22 PM | Report abuse

wow, game day, two days from cuts, star DE injured, star FS just coming back, got embarrassed last week, JJ looks terrible and has an injured ankle will he play with the starters? won't he?, and the only topic for discussion on here is a fake indian's tomahawk.

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 28, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

From PFT,

EXPANDED SEASON COMING IN 2010, AT THE EARLIEST
Posted by Mike Florio on August 28, 2008, 10:43 a.m. EDT
NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell visited on Thursday with Dan Patrick, and Goodell talked about the possible expansion of the regular season and, in turn, the potential shrinkage of the preseason. (The audio will be available on demand at Dan’s web site.)

Goodell said that a change would come in 2010 at the earliest, and that it would be tied to the ongoing labor agreement talks with the union and the broadcasting contracts with the networks.

But the contracts with FOX, CBS, and NBC run through the 2011 season, and the deal with ESPN expires after 2013. Thus, any deal done before 2013 would need to take into account a system for paying the NFL for the extra regular-season games.

An expansion of the regular season most likely would result in a reduction of the preseason, since Goodell mentioned several times the concept of the 20-game season. Goodell also might have committed an unintended slip regarding the number of additional regular-season games that the league is targeting when he said that the league would not be expanding the season, but that the league would only be “converting two preseason games.” If they keep the 20-game season, this would mean 18 regular-season contests.

But we’re not sure that the best approach is to go straight to 18. We think that it makes more sense to play 17 regular-season games initially, especially since it gives the league sixteen games that could be played at neutral sites in other countries (and, as we’ve argued in the past, Los Angeles) without having any team play more home games than any other team.

With 18 regular-season games, there would still be complaints and concerns regarding the inequity of some teams having more home games than others, unless 32 games are played at neutral sites.

Regardless, there are details that can be worked out at the appropriate time. For now, the good news is that the regular season could grow a bit, and the preseason could in turn shrink a lot.

Posted by: kmdp4 | August 28, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

km, thanks for posting that. If that happens, then they need to have at least a 60 person team, rather than 53. More games, more injuries.

Posted by: Greg | August 28, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe that Sleepy Davis and Cindy are an Item. Couldn't this be construed as a Conflict of Interests?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

The season is just right as it is. There is so much attrition already that it makes no sense to make the season even longer.

Just look at the number of playoff QBs that were hurting last year. The Skins went in with their backup QB. Romo and Rivers were playing injured.

Plus, the NFL is already getting the max out of the last month of the season playoff scenarios. How many teams were still hoping for a playoff slot with 3 weeks left? Most of the league!!

No to a longer season.


Posted by: AL Zeke etc | August 28, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Yeah we gonna get any updates. I know to much couldnt have changed but last I heard sun-mon maybe taylor was in a knee brace and his knee could not support his own body weight, anything changed with that situation.

Posted by: Stu | August 28, 2008 12:38 PM | Report abuse

I doubt that will happen Greg. They may expand the practice squad. Existing players are going to want a raise for playing 2 more games and adding more players to the mix would cut into that.

I am all for it but wonder if it's really worth it. I guess the TV money will be the big thing. The gate won't be significantly higher than it is now in places like Washington where all seats are season tickets and you are forced to buy preseason games.

Posted by: Skinz | August 28, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

From PFT,

SAPP OFFICIALLY JOINS DANCING WITH THE STARS
Posted by Mike Florio on August 28, 2008, 11:20 a.m. EDT
Though we vaguely recall some conflicting reports regarding whether former NFL defensive lineman Warren Sapp will be a member of this year’s cast of Dancing with the Stars, it’s now official.

Sapp will appear on this year’s edition of the program, along with Lance Bass, Toni Braxton, Brooke Burke, Rocco DeSpirito, Maurice Greene, Kim Kardashian, Cloris Leachman, Cody Linley, Susan Lucci, Misty May-Treanor, Ted McGinley, and Jeff Ross. (We know we’re somewhat sheltered since we only watch Seinfeld, The Office, Family Guy, news, and sports, but the names Maurice Greene, Cody Linley, and Jeff Ross aren’t ringing any bells for us.)

Here’s hoping that Sapp will display the grace he shows when catching a football while jumping into a pool. And given his reputation for being an annoying loud mouth in the locker room, here’s an attempt to predict some of the things he might say to some of his new colleagues, if/when he gets the chance.

“Hey, Lance Bass, you should try to play football for the Buccaneers. Jeff Garcia is always looking for a tight end or a wide receiver. Hahahahahahaha!”

“Hey, Rocco DeSpirito, what kind of dances do you Eye-talians do? The Linguini? Hahahahahahaha!”

“Hey, Kim Kardashian, you should try to play football for the Saints. Reggie Bush is always looking for . . . oh, sh-t I already used that one. . . . Hahahahahahaha!”

[Editor’s note: The predicted opinions of Warren Sapp do not necessarily reflect the actual opinions of ProFootballTalk or any of its employees, agents, or sponsors.]

Posted by: kmdp4 | August 28, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Might want to fill theol Hummer up now.

Gustav could mess up oil rigs and refineries.

Posted by: Corkczar | August 28, 2008 12:53 PM | Report abuse

That guys a fraud he didn't say SHUT IT !!
The 2nd OG Barno said it. That guy must be the 3rd or 4th OG Barno.

Posted by: Where's Barno | August 28, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Jasno is caught up with doing household chores and doesn't have time to post new topics. Or he could be pouting after yesterday's "tubby dork" discussion.

Posted by: GA_Skinz_Fan | August 28, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Or he could be pouting after yesterday's "tubby dork" discussion.

Posted by: GA_Skinz_Fan | August 28, 2008 1:01 PM

That's not the Jasno I know. Dude's not a pouter. He's got thick skin. Except where Dan or Vinny are involved.

He's resting up for tonight. He'll be working late and posting when it counts -- everytime another starter goes down. Get your phone ready for the text messages. They'll be coming about this time tomorrow.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 28, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

You have no idea what you are talking about Where's Barno and frankly it is getting annoying. Please just stop. I said "SHUT IT" as a joke and nothing else

Posted by: OG Barno | August 28, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

4th--Wouldn't this depend on whether (a) Dan Snyder paid for the gun out of his pocket and did not deduct it, or (b) the Redskins paid for the gun and claimed it as a business expense? In the latter case couldn't the IRS interpret the "gift" as an element of Blache's income?

I am not a tax accountant and I did not stay at a Holiday Inn Express.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 28, 2008 11:23 AM

I'm too lazy to go back to the article.

If it was a gift 'with no strings attached', then I'm sure he pays for a good enough accountant that can get away with this being a gift and not pay taxes on it.....

Posted by: 4th | August 28, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

1 day, 23 hours, and 19 minutes from the opsting of this.

Posted by: The Truth | August 28, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

The Truth has no strings attached.

Posted by: The Truth | August 28, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Just heard Pacman has been reinstated, just another chance that the Cowgirls will fold.

Posted by: kmdp4 | August 28, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

This blog is starting to get owned by the Redskins.com blog. The day of the last preseason game and no posts? Is Jasno on vacation?

Posted by: Impartial | August 28, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Elfin to da Post | August 28, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Almost 24 hours since last blog entry. Isn't there a game tonight? I'm pulling my Ads!

Posted by: Angry RI Sponsor | August 28, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Pacman wouldn't have been reinstated if he didn't play for Dallas.

Posted by: The Truth | August 28, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

This is what I really said:

You keep your mouth SHUT kmdp4 !!!
You've been sh*&ting on Gibbs and now your doing it to Grilliams. Go Hang !!

Posted by: OG Barno | August 27, 2008 11:51 AM
_____________________________________

AND THEN I SAID:


SHUT !!

Posted by: OG Barno | August 27, 2008 11:53 AM
_______________________________________

AND THEN SOME OTHER FAKE BARNO WHO WASN'T THE REAL BARNO (he's more like Barno#3) CAME ALONG TRYING TO MIMMICK ME WHEN I'M NOT EVEN THE REAL BARNO AND SAID:

Just KEEP IT SHUT MAN

Posted by: OG Barno | August 27, 2008 11:56 AM


now who ever this guy is that said "just keep it shut man" at 11:56 (after me) is trying to claim he is the orginal Barno, but why would he let someone imitate him and and only make a comment afterwards. Because he was trying to act like me OG Barno #2. But now he is trying to claim that he is the original OG Barno. Trying to leap frog from 3rd to 1st. F*&^K THAT !!

Posted by: Your Not the Real OG Barno | August 28, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

The 'Ol Ball Coach goes into action tonight against NC State.

Let's see if Suprrier can coach 'em up after starting 6-1 last year (#7 in the nation)and self-destructing into a 6-6 record (missing a bowl game).

Posted by: SCSkins | August 28, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

test

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

I'm seriously starting to get upset that there aren't any updates. Someone shoot me.

Posted by: 4th | August 28, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: DLR | August 28, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

dude I'm not arguing with you about who I am and who I'm not, that's pointless. Just let it go, that was me the real one that was just joking around. Don't take it personal dude

Posted by: OG Barno | August 28, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Hey,

I am the real not the real original second OG Barno imitating the second faking original Barno!

Posted by: I'm not the real Your Not the Real OG Barno | August 28, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

+++As soon as Heyer's knee is healed up ... or as soon as Jansen's ankle cries uncle.

Posted by: dcsween | August 27, 2008 5:41 PM+++

It will happen when Bugel recommends it, IMO.

Posted by: Corkczar | August 28, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

So whatcha think?

@N.Y. Giants 14-10 (L)
New Orleans 24-19 (L)
Arizona 20-13 (W)
@Dallas 30-16 (L)
@Philadelphia 17-14 (L)
St. Louis 28-17 (W)
Cleveland 35-31 (W)
@Detroit 31-27 (W)
Pittsburgh 23-16 (L)

Week 10 BYE

Dallas 20-13 (L)
@Seattle 24-14 (L)
N.Y. Giants 21-10 (W)
@Baltimore 13-6 (W)
@Cincinnati 21-17 (L)
Philadelphia 26-21 (W)
@San Francisco 20-17 (W)

Final record: 8-8; 2-4 in division; 2-2 vs. rest of NFC; 2-2 vs. AFC.; 5-3 @ Home; 3-5 away.

*Will not qualify for playoffs.

Posted by: Red of the DMV | August 28, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

4th,

BANG!!!

Posted by: charlie | August 28, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Not even a bubble watch list. Jasno is slipping.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Wait! I made a mistake what I meant to say is -
I am the REAL not the real original second OG Barno imitating the faking original Barno!

Gotta the facts straight up here.

Posted by: I'm not the real Your Not the Real OG Barno | | August 28, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Is Jasno on vacation?

Posted by: Impartial | August 28, 2008 1:18 PM

No. It's game day and there's no news. And he starts work this evening, before the game. He'll be working late tonight.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 28, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

I'm seriously starting to get upset that there aren't any updates. Someone shoot me.

Posted by: 4th | August 28, 2008 1:23 PM

I am honuored to be imatated, but never duplicated........

Posted by: 4thFloor | August 28, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Just let it go, that was me the real one that was just joking around. Don't take it personal dude

Posted by: OG Barno | August 28, 2008 1:26 PM

No, this one is fake. The real Barno does not use "dude." That's a tell. The real Barno refers to people as crudhole, idiot, stupid, etc. His ultimate insult, of course, is "democrat."

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Elfin to da Post | August 28, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

@N.Y. Giants (w)
New Orleans (L)
Arizona W)
@Dallas (L)
@Philadelphia (W)
St. Louis (W)
Cleveland (L)
@Detroit(L)
Pittsburgh (L)

Week 10 BYE

Dallas (W)
@Seattle (L)
N.Y. Giants (W)
@Baltimore (L)
@Cincinnati (W)
Philadelphia (W)
@San Francisco (W)

9-7 miss the playoffs anyway

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 28, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

That's true he doesn't use dude and he is always a lot more angry. That's guys the fake Original Barno. Know your place #3

Posted by: Where's Barno ? | August 28, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

my god this clown is just abnoxious now. Whatever pal, I'm getting off this blog for awhile.

Posted by: OG Barno | August 28, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Hey Red, i agree pretty much with ur prediction..but i think they can beat New orleans at home..Dallas at home and cincy..

Posted by: FAB88 | August 28, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Why are we loosing to Baltimore they have no QB and will stink this year. We are also going to loose to Detroit give me a break.

Posted by: kmdp4 | August 28, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

If you haven't noticed the last few years we are always struggling heading into the bye week, and Detroit is pretty good with a healthy C. Johnson. B-more on the road is a tough game, I don't care what anybody says, that defense at home is tough, if you don't remember the came with in a kyle boller stupid decision of beating the Pats last year, and boller is out for the year, Troy Smith, Todd Heap healthy makes them a better team.

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 28, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

"I am not even a Republican, but folks, some things far transcend football. Watch and listen for only 5:32 seconds and ask yourself, didn't we uncover this type of thing in the 1940's in Europe?

Do the right thing regardless what it will cost you.

HTTR!"

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | August 27, 2008 3:13 PM

Dear Ray,

Well, you're an Idiot, but as you well know that doesn't require you to drop your GOP Membership.

See this Youtube piece is the sort of propaganda that Hitler and Goebbels only dreamed of, a Far Right wet dream mud sling that can potentially reach millions.

The Swift Boat lying approach is repeated again--hell it worked so well the last time--and you pretend to be a neutral, aw, shucks, Redskins fan lloking to save the country. Gee, you even include HTTR.

Not that this sort of crap doesn't work. The electorate has been so dumbed down under eight years of Bush, some might even buy the lie that you "are not a Republican" but not me. And not anyone with an iota of common sense.

So take your Swift Boat propaganda and stick it up your South harbor. i HATE politics on this board, but I won't let you spread this swill and remain silent.

Oh, an:

HTTR

Posted by: Anti-Swiftboat Redskin Fans for Truth | August 28, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

You rang?

Posted by: The Truth | August 28, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Whatever pal, I'm getting off this blog for awhile.

Posted by: OG Barno | August 28, 2008 1:39 PM

If that was the real OG Barno. I just succesfully assassinated his character and now I shall take my place and move up the pecking order to my new spot as the new undisputed OG Barno !!!

Posted by: OG Barno #2 | August 28, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if The Truth is a chinese martial arts master who sits on top of a mountain in china with his laptop

Posted by: FAB88 | August 28, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

I'm really not sure if that was the real Barno or not, but either way I either assinated the real one or the fake one, so I'll celebrate!

Posted by: OG Barno #2 | August 28, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

I don't get it. How can someone like the Skins and not like politics? No Politics, no DC. No DC, no skins.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 28, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Ray Nagin, refused to evacuate people who were in the path of destruction during Katrina, because as he put it himself, it was an election year, and he didn't want to take the chance that the storm missed New Orleans, he'd never get re-elected for moving everyone out for nothing.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

This blog is losing it today.

New post please!!!!

Posted by: Kelli Johnson is Hot | August 28, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

MAN, I got nothing!

Posted by: dcsween | August 27, 2008 4:59 PM

[As I said, I got nothing.]

Posted by: dcsween | August 27, 2008 5:19 PM

Catching up on what you all have been up to up here today. I see I am not alone.

Posted by: dcsween | August 28, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

...he'd never get re-elected for moving everyone out for nothing.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2008 1:53 PM

This is why we need to stop having elections? Shoot all politicians in the face with shotguns while hunting? What?

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 28, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

I agree Cyn your ode to Poe has run it's course, let's get us news. Preseason game tonight and 1 week till kickoff there has to be something.

Posted by: Skinz | August 28, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Has the whole world gone mad? Am I the only one that gives a #$% about the rule anymore. Mark it zero Smokey.

Posted by: Walter | August 28, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

WHAT THE HECK IS THIS ???
Now someone is trying to imitate me ?? The former fake OG Barno (who is now the undisputed OG Barno) I am the #1 OG Barno you my friend were #3 feel free to take the vacant OG Barno #2 spot. But you are not leap frogging me for the #1 OG Barno spot. I was #2 and I assassinated OG Barno. Pay your does son !

Posted by: The former OG Barno #2 | August 28, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Cindy is with Fred Davis? Does that lend a whole new meaning to Redskins Insider?

Posted by: to embarrassed to claim credit for this one | August 28, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

I'm gonna fall asleep if I don't get a new topic.

Posted by: Fred Davis | August 28, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

We need to have an OG Barno throwdown or something to settle this once and for all.
However I don't think the OG Barno that was assassinated was really the true OG Barno anyway. I think the true OG Barno is out there somewhere.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Wow, so someone pretending to be me when they posted this

I'm really not sure if that was the real Barno or not, but either way I either assinated the real one or the fake one, so I'll celebrate!

Posted by: OG Barno #2 | August 28, 2008 1:50 PM

AND THEN they pretend to be me replying to that by posting this

WHAT THE HECK IS THIS ???
Now someone is trying to imitate me ?? The former fake OG Barno (who is now the undisputed OG Barno) I am the #1 OG Barno you my friend were #3 feel free to take the vacant OG Barno #2 spot. But you are not leap frogging me for the #1 OG Barno spot. I was #2 and I assassinated OG Barno. Pay your does son !

Posted by: The former OG Barno #2 | August 28, 2008 2:07 PM

This is not funny!

Posted by: OG Barno #1 | August 28, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Hey, sometimes ya gotta take one for the team, and sometimes you get to take one for the team.

Posted by: Fred Davis | August 28, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

401rdeeenth!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

If fake Barno assassinated fake Barno, does fake Barno #1 become the real Barno??

I'm confused and this whole thing is lame.

Posted by: The Truth | August 28, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Just for comparison purposes, looking at last years Redskins Insider entries on the day of the last preseason game...

We had a post from Cindy at 9:56 in the morning. Then, JLC checked in at 4:10 with an update he had been meaning to post all day. At 5:34, he started updating us with team warmup info, and the updates continued up until the start of the game.

So, expect a post or three sometime between 4:00 and 5:00 maybe?

Also, for what its worth, the 1st stringers played in last years final preseason game too. Not a big deal

Posted by: swb | August 28, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Play your position punk !!

Posted by: The newly crowned OG Barno | August 28, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

NFL commissioner Roger Goodell has informed the Dallas Cowboys that cornerback Adam "Pacman" Jones has been fully reinstated, making him eligible to play in the regular-season opener in Cleveland.

Posted by: jm220 | August 28, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Cindy is with Fred Davis? Does that lend a whole new meaning to Redskins Insider?

Posted by: to embarrassed to claim credit for this one | August 28, 2008 2:08 PM


aww what the heck, that was funny, I admit it was me. Come on, I can't be the only one that thought that was a good one?

Posted by: dcsween | August 28, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Seeing these Barno's go at it is truly hilarious. Man there are some looney people on RI I'll tell ya.

Posted by: Earl Sugarloaf III | August 28, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

After reading the ESPN preview of all the teams, I am surprised at the widespread belief that we will finish last in the division.

Posted by: GA_Skinz_Fan | August 28, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Seeing these Barno's go at it is truly hilarious. Man there are some looney people on RI I'll tell ya.

Posted by: Earl Sugarloaf III | August 28, 2008 2:20 PM

There is at least one looney up here, but I'm not sure there's more than one. Heck, even dcsween is posting under fake names.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

^^ That post didn't really make sense.......

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Purloined loins?
Tomahawk nads?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Is that you Sween ?

Posted by: Earl Sugarloaf III | August 28, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

really large shlong

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

2:19pm was not me. That was a fraud dcsween. The real dcsween does not say "aww what the heck."

Also, I know how to spell "too" (the frauder typed "to embarrassed ...")

Finally, my first thought was "Insider? I just MET her!" but I thought better and did not post it.

F faking fakers.

Posted by: dcsween | August 28, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Surely there's some jibba jabba available to distract us until Cindy or Jason gets off the schneid and gives us the new thread that we're clamoring for.

How about... movies! Who's been to the movies lately and has a movie review to share? Who's hitting the cineplex this weekend? Do tell!

Posted by: Anon, a Miss | August 28, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

After reading the ESPN preview of all the teams, I am surprised at the widespread belief that we will finish last in the division.

Posted by: GA_Skinz_Fan | August 28, 2008 2:25 PM

Dude, the national media doesn't love the Redskins, and the local media has an agenda, but I bet behind the scenes they're thinking: "stupid, idiotic fans, cheering and crying about there sorry ass team. F the Redskins. Or shall I say deadskins. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA..."

Hail WRC
Hail WTTG
Hail WJLA
Hail WUSA

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Sweened nads?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

TT, so let me get this straight...we'r not having the draft on the 30th cuz your beloved georgia bulldogs are playing a gar-field highschool JV football team?

and some dude on espn was saying "the dogs" be lucky to win their conference...let alone all of sec...

Posted by: dealer | August 28, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

This place is dead... what gives?

Posted by: Skinz | August 28, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Purloined loins?
Tomahawk nads?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2008 2:27 PM

purloined nads was already used before. i'm like the world series: no repeats. given how dry and overall lame it is up here today...

maimed nads

Posted by: nads guy | August 28, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

This place is dead... what gives?

Posted by: Skinz | August 28, 2008 2:39 PM

Sometimes it's your internal organs. Well all the time it's your internal organs. Even if something freaky happend to you like getting hit by a bus or something.

As dcsween said: I've got nothing.

Posted by: Red of the DMV | August 28, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse

why's zorn so intent on playing the starters against the other team's scrubs? why? on a wet field? what will that prove? i like zorn, breath of fresh air et all but dude bad decision. don't know what he's trying to accomplish there...if the first team does well...it'll be "they were playing against the scrubs" and god forbid if they do bad...then i don't even want to come to the blog tomorrow...a whole lot to lose (injuries and confidence) than to gain up here tonite...

Posted by: dealer | August 28, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse

new topic pweez

Posted by: FAB88 | August 28, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Truth -

The reason CoC is undefeated in football is because THEY AIN'T GOT A FOOTBALL TEAM.

Almost like UGA...almost.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

maimed nads

Posted by: nads guy | August 28, 2008 2:39 PM

terrible. i'll do better.

humdrum nads

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2008 2:47 PM | Report abuse

new topic pweez

Posted by: FAB88 | August 28, 2008 2:43 PM

Seriously, I got nothing, but in the interest of jibba jabba, how about "which has had a more significant impact and why: Madden/EA Sports, ATARI, or one of those vibrating metal plates painted like a football field with those little plastic guys? Support your conclusions.

Posted by: dcsween | August 28, 2008 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Sorry for the delay in updating the blog. We're doing some more computer updates and it's preventing us from adding anything. Should be up before the game starts.
Oh and Jason phoned in and said that Marcus Mason will get the start tonight in place of Portis. More on that in a bit.

Posted by: Cindy | August 28, 2008 2:48 PM | Report abuse

recrudescent nads

Posted by: nads guy | August 28, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Has Cooley gotten Chief Zee's tomahawk back yet? There are 612 hits for "tomahawk" on eBay, though most of them are other things like canoes or kayaks that use tomahawk as part of their name.

The most expensive tomahawk is $750, an antique from 1770-80. Looks a lot sharper than the one which Chief Zee was carrying. It look like it was meant for someone a few pay grades above Chief Zee. Maybe an Indian King.

The cheapest is $5.00 and it looks like one you'd let your eight-year-old play with: definitely not the quality that would be carried by a Chief.

But in the $10 to $25 price range there are several that would be very effective in Chief Zee's hands. I say we should take up a collection and give him one. And following up on my earlier disagreement with Brownwood, we should give it to him with "no strings attached."

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 28, 2008 2:52 PM | Report abuse

OK, I'll start.

These things were the most significant.

http://cgi.ebay.com/NFL-VIBRATING-FOOTBALL-TABLETOP-GAME_W0QQitemZ200248577438QQihZ010QQcategoryZ155340QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em118Q2el1247

Support: Early on they demonstrated just how much important the QB and kicker positions are (esp. the multi-function, George Blanda-like version).

Posted by: dcsween | August 28, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Interesting.. Mason to start... Cindy, u updating minesweeper or solitaire?

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 28, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

anyone going to the game tonight?

Posted by: [cc] | August 28, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Glad marcus will get the nod instead of portis. hes gametime ready at this point he has had nothing to do with the Oline or the passing problems. Gives mason some more make or brake time.

Posted by: Stu | August 28, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Oh and Jason phoned in and said that Marcus Mason will get the start tonight in place of Portis. More on that in a bit.

Posted by: Cindy | August 28, 2008 2:48 PM

This must make Marcus Mason feel good. His first reaction: "Wow! I'm going to make the roster." His second reaction: "They're trying to trade me for someone else's fifth LB or CB."

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 28, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

TE

They got the tomahawk back. Some drunk idiot who took it apologized and is returned it, thought it was funny at the time.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 28, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

this place is as dead as Redcoat's sex life.

Posted by: | August 28, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

TE

They got the tomahawk back. Some drunk idiot who took it apologized and is returned it, thought it was funny at the time.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 28, 2008 2:56 PM

Glad to hear that Alex. But why don't we go ahead and take up a collection anyway, just in case this happens again? I'll hold the money until we need it. Anyone else think this is a good idea?

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 28, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

I wonder what Betts or Cartwright are thinking.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Is anyone planning to go to the Sean Taylor auction tomorrow? I've got to believe there will be lots of hardcore Redskins fans and that they will raise good money for his daughter.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 28, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

I, of course would have to say Madden NFL. Anytime when a video game moves over 2 million units in the first month annually, I'd say it's impactful. Of course you can make the argumnet with Atari with pong and all *Snore* but Madden, Tecmo Bowl (Bo was my dude), and even 989's Gameday (Especially 97') are my all time favorites.

Posted by: Red of the DMV | August 28, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Or.......this place is as dead as RedskinRay's brain.

Posted by: Slippery Richard | August 28, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

beep beep....ah...beep beep

Posted by: Funky Town | August 28, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

"TT, so let me get this straight...we'r not having the draft on the 30th cuz your beloved georgia bulldogs are playing a gar-field highschool JV football team?

and some dude on espn was saying "the dogs" be lucky to win their conference...let alone all of sec...

Posted by: dealer | August 28, 2008 2:39 PM "

First, when did "TT" become my nickname? I don't like it.

Second, I don't care what Talking Head #172 said, really. We've won the SEC with much less talent than we have this year.

Third, our conference is the "whole SEC", our division is the SEC East.

Fourth, yes.

Posted by: The Truth | August 28, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

most importatnt= madden

support: was too young to get laid when electric football and atari were out. no excuse now that old enough, yet still play madden

Posted by: still in the basement | August 28, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Pacman was @ Hooters when he got the call he was reinstated.

Big Deal or No?

I say no....

Posted by: 4th | August 28, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

tonite's game is all about figuring out the last roster spots. For these bubble guys, its about showcasing their skills to the Redskins first, but also to the entire league.

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | August 28, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

447th! YES!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Attention all the new barnos, and anyone else that might care (Not that anyone does), but this is the first Barno here, the original, the OG, whatever you want to call me. The who wrote Wake Me Up Before You Go Joe, the great song never sung, to the tune of the 1980s Wham! hit song Wake Me Up. Way back in september of 06, the one who got "scorned" by JLC, and then criticized the beat reporter and was pretty consistent on here the past 2 years until this off season. Then someone(s) besides me starting posting under the Barno handle, which I still find hilarious. The name will carry on even when I'm not around. Hysterical to me.

Anyhow, every once in a while I'll drop back on here and those who are a little more astute will be able to distingish the imposter(s) from yours truly, Original Barno (Not to be confused with any of the new Barnos).

And just for anyone that cares (not that anyone does) know that any message under the Barno handle, from now until opening night, will not be from me.

Peace.

Go Skins

Posted by: The Original Barno (not to be confused with the new Barnos) | August 28, 2008 11:49 PM | Report abuse

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